Monday, March 5, 2018

Academy Soccer

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Anonymous said...

I know for my son it’s spring break so he will not be missing school. Any trip to Europe is not cheap but we have had many fundraisers/tournaments last year that CSA has supported which have helped off set much of the cost. Actually are next one is Presidents’ Day. Not sure how many programs do that, but I know all parents are grateful for it.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure it will be a positive experience for everyone. Good luck CSA!

Anonymous said...

Team has done many fundraisers last year and this year to help cover a good portion of the cost. Tournament is during spring break so kids should not miss any school. I know that my son will not miss any. Not everyone was able to make it so I assume those kids might not have had spring break that week.

Anonymous said...

2 more weeks before the restart of the Academy season. Anyone have any news and or updates?

Anonymous said...

2009 playing CSA for 2 yrs? No wonder there are so many that drop the sport from burnout and injuries by high school. Is it really necessary to take the risks for these academies to have such young kids playing academy level at such a young age? of coarse it is because they enjoy the profit they are making from it. Let's be real most will not make to college, national, professional level and most are lucky to still interested enough to play in HS. Have seen it over and over again and it's such a shame

Anonymous said...

@10:15 7 year olds are not playing academy level soccer, at any club. The difference at that age is the quality of training and the facilities. Parents have the choice of when and if they want to move their kid into a more structured program, or stay at their local club. Some town clubs are awful and some are very good, so that should be a factor to consider. Bad habits form early and good consistent training at an early age doesn't equate burnout. You are correct, burnout happens, and I'm sure it happens often.. We monitor that. My son's schedule is very manageable and he plays on a DA team. He loves it, has made great friends(the parents have too); the routine helps him balance his schoolwork and other activities. He is learning about leadership, commitment, and handling disappointment too. There seems to be a lot of negatives on this thread, but there are so many positives that don't get mentioned. People just need to keep their expectations realistic. Not always an easy task.

Anonymous said...

10:15

My son has been playing academy since he was 12. He is now 17 and continues to enjoy/love the sport very much. He has already received a scholarship to a division I school and he is still talking to a few more colleges. He also continues to maintain a high GPA while attending one of the top schools in NJ.A few of his teammates are in the same boat, all have mid to high GPAs and already have or are committing to play in college.

I am not sure what your issue is with kids playing high-level soccer, but some kids have benefited from paying academy. I am sorry that your kid could not make it/or got burned out, but high-level soccer is not for every kid.



Anonymous said...

My son is an academy player but I have seen teams with awful environments caused by out of control, over competitive parents, They seem to have zero problem saying another child sucks and their wonderful child should always play, at 10 yrs. old? really?? I have no time for those environments. I have seen overly involved parents totally undermine the young coach of the team and half the team ended up leaving. This affects children's confidence and self-esteem. Parents can be much harder to handle than the kids. Academies have to keep parent involvement at a minimum.

Anonymous said...

@12:49 Having experienced both Academy and non-academy clubs with my children, I can say the non-Academy clubs, in our experience, have had way more parental meddling and overtly loud mouthed parents. I know it does happen within the Academy system, I just do not think it is tolerated nearly as much. I'm sure it depends on the club and coach though.

Anonymous said...

I know my son is on spring break as well as all of the parents I asked. Not every kid was able to travel because of school which is understandable. We have done fund raising last year and this year to help lower cost as well as had sponsors help cover cost for some parents and kids going.

Anonymous said...

Most clubs do tolerate bad behavior from parents because they want the business and they see parents as the customers. Player development is not the priority, the money is. So to the person who asks what is your issue with high level soccer? 1. too much parent involvement 2. System motivated by greed and profit, not player development 3 Toxic environment full of shouting,intimidation and bullying which is negative to player development and child development. My child is in this because he loves the sport and wants to play in college but there have been many times I thought of walking away.

Anonymous said...

11:27 I am sorry to hear your son is in a toxic environment with bullying and intimidation. Perhaps it's time to switch clubs! Why would you stay there if that's the case? Please don't say every Academy is the same way either.

Anonymous said...

why do you think I stayed? I never said that. I said they exist all over and if you don't see that maybe you're part of the problem. What academy do you belong to where the environment is so positive?

Anonymous said...

1:01 Wow you are salty. Maybe I am part of the problem because my son is happy and developing? Ummm OK. I keep my mouth shut and let my kid do his thing. Not sure why I bother responding but you implied that you 'stayed' with your very own words, about the "many times you have thought about walking away" but your son wants to play in college. But he is being bullied and intimidated? Is your son in DA? I care about everyone's kids and it would be sad for me to see anyone berated or humiliated. That's not been our experience and sorry if that bothers you, because it seems you don't want to hear any positive experiences! I like to keep anonymous on here and will not share personal info other than, I am a mom, and you don't seem like a nice person because you are actually being the bully on this forum.

Anonymous said...

Let's all relax. I think the word bully is thrown around a bit too much in this PC world we live in.

I agree if things aren't good, leave. Don't stay someplace because the golden ticket of full ride D1 scholarship is being dangled. If your kid isn't at RB, NYCFC or Union it won't happen.

Anonymous said...


I agree that we all need to relax and that if you are not happy somewhere you need to leave. There are other options (ECNL, EDP, Region 1 league, etc..) besides academy soccer. Everyone on this blog, for the most part, goes through the same thing with their club, how each one handles it is the key.

My son's Academy team is toxic in some ways, there is a lot of politics like in all clubs, all players/families are out for themselves, but that is the price you pay for high-level soccer in America. At the end of the day, my son enjoys the team he plays for, he has made a few friends which they hang out outside of soccer (we parents did also), he likes the coach and gets plenty/enough of playing time to the point where he is being recruited by a few schools (he has even received a full ride to a DI school and my son does not play for an MLS academy). I just can't worry too much about all the bullshit that goes around in the club, because if I do then I am going to end up on this blog complaining every day.

If you want to get to the promise land DI/DII/DIII/NAIA, your kid needs to be playing at least 50% of the time, besides that he should be attending ID camps and be speaking/e-mailing various coaches and etc... Coming on the blog to complain and waiting for the Soccer fairy to watch your kid play won't get you there.


co coya said...

In response to the post about TSF winning at all costs, my son has played for TSF for the past two and a half years. That has not been my experience at all.
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Anonymous said...

my child just started playing for CS on a new team that was formed. I think the practices are run very well and the trainers are very effective but I must say this is one of the worst run and unorganized organizations i have ever witnessed. practice schedules are constantly changing. the coaches assigned to the team have changed 3 times already. the roster is overloaded with kids who wouldnt make the cut on a town travel team. its just one big debacle and apparently they have hired everyone from TSF over the last year or so. its really a poorly run business. not sure if this will be a long term fit for my child or just a pit stop for this year. i would have trouble recommending CS Bergen to anyone given these issues.

Anonymous said...

To the parent whose kid just started at CSA Bergen, may I ask which age group your kid is in?

My son will be at one of the younger age group tryouts next month.

Did you or any other parents ask about what sounds like not so great players? Did the coaches address that?

Anonymous said...

To the parent whose kid just started at CSA Bergen, may I ask
which age group your kid is in?

My son will be at one of the younger age group tryouts next
month.

Did you or any other parents ask about what sounds like not so
great players? Did the coaches address that?

Its a 2009 team. There is no way to address the roster with the coaches. I think parents lose sight of the fact that these people are running a business. The only thing to do is make a decision to stay or leave but obviously we have paid our tuition. right now I can say that I wouldnt recommend this place to anyone given our experience over the last month.



Anonymous said...

From what I have seen, if your kid plays you are happy with the program. I have seen parents with good soccer knowledge "love" a quite mediocre DA coach because their sons starts and gets the majority of playing time. I am quite sure if their kid was not playing they would have quite a different view.


Not many parents out there who have a realistic view of their kids talent. Also, their child's status at the club often clouds their accurate assessment of the coach and club.

Also, the "if you don't like it go somewhere else" comments I see are a bit too much. We all make compromises in life, and playing local to avoid a 2 hour turnpike ordeal each practice may be one of those compromises. Sometimes people just need to vent.

Anonymous said...

All the politics and favoritism that go on at these clubs can get to be too much. Families have to decide how much BS they will allow. Your child could be a loved and a starter one day then suddenly benched with no explanation the next. Is there any industry where people pay expensive fees for this kind of treatment?

Anonymous said...

Well that is the life you have chosen. If you go the academy route you need to know that they don't really care about a kid off the soccer field. They are going to play the best kids because they want to win. Politics and favoritism are always blamed when a kid gets replaced. This is the cut-throat level of soccer. Your kid will either succeed or not. This is what is done in Europe and that is the model US soccer is trying to emulate.
When my kid was younger I said I would move him up and find out where he may fail. The kids with the most talent will always be favorites.
It's not for everyone...

Anonymous said...

So is it your opinion that politics and favoritism do not exist in youth soccer? And why would a parent be moving his child up? Isn't that the coaches job? Lastly, the US academy system is focused on immediate wins. Very different from the European model where the focus ix player development which will hopefully pay off in the future.

Anonymous said...

First off Academy soccer begins at U12 and just because the program has the word "Academy" in it does not make it a true US DA.
As with all sports programs, including DA, you'll have some that are better than others. The key as with anything is to do your due diligence. Places like this blog are just one outlet, ask other soccer parents, coaches, etc.
Also the grass is not always greener, I've seen lots of parents move kids around from program to program which as they get older is the equivalent of selling your home and moving elsewhere with your kid starting at a new school. Not all kids can handle this, nor can every kid handle the demands of DA.

Anonymous said...

The Academy Program focuses on positively impacting everyday club environments to assist in maximizing youth player development across the country. The Academy values individual development of elite players over winning trophies and titles. The Academy sets the standard for elite environments for youth soccer clubs nationwide and is a part of U.S. Soccer's global leadership position in youth soccer that will impact thousands of players. The Academy Pathway will continue to place players at the best colleges, national teams and professional clubs.

Anonymous said...

Nice advertisement for the ussda but the ussda is a competitive league with standings and playoffs and trophies. Winning is the goal. They don't want to say that but that's how I see it.

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