Yes, my daughter plays for one of the teams mentioned in 1:50 post. Coach does a great job in instructing the girls to reach out to coaches and how to follow up. She has been contacted by at least 16 schools so far. A mix of all three Divisions. We will see what this season brings. As far as to many games I don't believe that to be the case. Most tournys she plays in is just one game a day. And it might seem like they are chasing points but it is the furthest thought in our coaches mind. The problem is my daughter doesn't know what she wants to major.
Similar here...best wishes to your daughter. My daughter's major is available at most schools. She needs to decide her geographical area and distance from home, her school size and setting and whether she will go where the most money is offered or decide on other factors.
11:10 If your talking top 20 schools (soccer wise) like Penn State, Duke, UCLA, North Carolina, the answer would be no. To be honest, I'm not sure she is that caliber of player. However, she has had direct contact with smaller D1's like Coastal Carolina, Longwood, Lehigh, and schools of a similar D1 vein and each have said there is scholarship money available. She hasn't proceeded to the next step of finding out how much, but with each conversation, she is becoming more and more comfortable talking with the coaches. I was wondering if any of you on this board have any kids in a D2 school? I would like to know how their system works regarding possible scholarship/grant money? My daughter has had a couple of these schools inquire about her interest (Wingate, Caldwell, Bloomfield), but so far, she has not reached back to them. 5:56 brings up a good point about deciding what major. Is it better to go undeclared in their freshmen year if your daughter is not sure? It seems as though I have more questions than actual answers. Similar to 5:56's coach, our coach does do a great job being a liaison to any school his players wish to talk with.
My older daughter started college undeclared. School did however have the 3 majors she was torn between. She/we chose the best soccer/financial offer. She was open to going anywhere.
Regarding D2..she's at a D2 but, coming from PA, there's a big difference in $$$ scholarships with PSAC D2 and let's say...Wingate, Belmont-Abbey etc....
2:05 30 games played in a year not a season. Most teams are under 30.
3:26 we are idiots, for posting on this board. But it's like crack.
9:51 more than 4 committed already wow. Good job my kid's team has 2 so far both 2020s.
10:08 Come on man - think about it - if the team played at CASL twice, Disney twice and Jefferson once to name a few -and the school was there - does it really matter where you play? I think not, it just matters how she played. We have 2 like I said at D1 schools and my kid's team was never in a top flight.
10:53 - I used just got soccer with no cross reference for game counts. 1776 is not an EDP team they play Region 1 and national league. You think your kid'steam will beat them this year and maybe make NCS Finals this year? Not that it's important, but as a fan. Sorry, if you are not PAE
5:56 Contacted your kid's coach? I'm guessing she is a 2019? I say that because i don't think he asked about camp invites. I only say camp invites because some of the schools mentioned on here we get also - we the parents compare to eliminate mass mailings from CaptainU & TDS,
7:10/5:56 - agreed best wishes to your kids - hope they get to their promise land.
8:33 are most of these athletic scholarships 50%? Not talking about Need/Merit that some kids can also land to equal a full ride.
For my kid she knows exactly where she want to go and she is on their radar. They know her by name and they have been to the last 4 tournaments she's played in multiple games. She's only talked to the coaches at their clinic. She didn't ask her club coach for anything so far. Not sure what they would bring to the table anyway at this point. We'll see when she's a junior what type of interest she gets as far as schools reaching out and how that process works.
8:33 Could you elaborate a little more on the difference between PSAC D2 and the likes of Wingate, Belmont types?? I ask because there are over 300 schools in 44 states, plus Canada. At 25 players per team, that's 7,500 spots to be filled in one way or another. Thanks for the good info.
PSAC are D2 but also state schools--total $23-25K tuition and board. Less athletic money/less money overall but some soccer is pretty decent...West Chester and Kutztown are always top 1-3 in PSAC.
Wingate for example is D2---$43K+ tuition and board. But is private and more money available altogether, athletic/merit.
However...my daughter, private D2 final bill after all athletic/merit scholarships is less than her friend at PSAC D2 after all her "discounts".
No it doesn't, but that was an excellent explanation. Next question? My daughter is a 2020 grad year player, so every contact from school's interested has had to come through her club coach (D1 and D2's), and then he passes their phone number on to us. Has anyone out there had this rule circumvented at all? So far we've had a couple schools say they didn't know she was a 2020 grad (even though it's clearly stated). Honest mistake or what??? And can she lose eligibility by responding? Sorry 10:41 But it's great to pick the brain of someone with answers.
Also 2020 here, which is why I'm on this blog...:) Last year, my daughter traveled with another family to tourney. She called me after a game telling me that a D1 coach had spoken with her. I think he got "around" the rule by speaking to 3 girls at one time? I don't think she's responsible for a coach initiating, he's the "adult" bound by the rules first and foremost. Best way to circumvent this, go to ID clinic at campus, talk as much as you want...
I find it hard to believe college coaches would break NCAA rules. I do have one important question regarding coaches and it's something that's been bothering me for quite awhile. When we refer to more than one coach, is it "coaches", or coach's? A little help from the Grammar Nazi would be great. I now understand why being sent to the office all those times wasn't a good thing.
Look at that! Is there a more informative blog than this one? This blog is just a wealth of information and best of all it's free. Now if we could only figure out Tino's secret formula when it comes to figuring out Penn Fusion yearly payments.
How did matchfit lose so many players? And why would pda pick up players from matchfit with known parents stealing from their local soccer clubs? Messed up
I think you'll find PF is similar to many clubs. Plus they're non profit :) There are negatives of course, especially for the #15-24 on the bench but TM has developed quite the machine and many are flocking there right?
Tino's dream of replicating PDA's success has almost come to fruition. As much as we poke fun at him on here, you have to give him credit for his singular focus. It was that long ago that Spirit United was the big dog in West Chester.
9:09 That is very true, but lets remember that Tino has been building his copy for the last five years. Just like most copies, they are never quite as good as the original or can ever have the same depth of history. Speaking of PF, I know the applied list for their tournament was out. Has anyone seen the accepted list for the U17 bracket?
Careful 2:39. You patted 1:44 on the back so hard that you almost hurt him. If you don't have anything positive to say, then why even post. Former post simply asked for U17 bracket at PF Tourney and received a ignorant answer. DA Bracket Washington Spirit Academy (VA) FC Virginia Penn Fusion Washington Spirit DA (MD)
Showcase Red Delaware Rush Reading Rage (Morgan) Harford FC United Thunder 1776 United HMMS Eagle FC FC Europa
Showcase White Match Fit Academy FC (Northeast NPL) Penn Fusion SA Preacademy FC Europa 01/02 Elite SJEB Rush 01 NPL
didn't realize the comments can only apply to the initially posted comment. go back and read some of the posts. they are absurd. kids would have posted something better and with more flair. box of tissues for you are on the way.
The only ones that seem upset are you (we'll call you Lovey) and Thurston Howell III. So I did look back over the last few days and there was conversation about what value there might be playing EDP. There was someone explaining the difference in D2 schools (PSAC and private). Then there was that low brow conversation on what college coaches are allowed to do in regards to recruiting. How dare these posters post such mundane and nonsensical thoughts on here!! What possible bearing could any of that have on their daughter regarding soccer? And then the nerve of someone to ask if somebody knew the PF brackets, can you imagine asking a soccer related question on this blog and expecting an answer? Then there was that poster lamenting over the coaches attending the VDA tournament, what possible right did he have to post one here? You and Thurston need to find an island where you two can only post your own little thoughts. You can keep Gilligan, but leave Nary Ann behind.
8:38 That was a great passive aggressive post. Back in the day when someone was aggressive on the phone, it was called "telephone tough guy", but I'm not sure what the hip term is today when on an anonymous blog. When I read this blog I expect to see some good reads and some that I have no interest in (or dumb ones). The only time I find myself commenting in a negative way is when Thurston and Lovey show their arrogance towards others on here. 29 DAYS UNTIL THE PF TOURNAMENT!!!! It's starting to warm up already!!
1. ECNL: FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) 39.42 2. ECNL: MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)39.30 3. NPL: SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) 37.89 4. ECNL: PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ) 37.83 5. NPL: SUSA FC NPL (NYE) 37.71 6. ECNL: FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE) 37.58 7. ECNL: RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL (VA) 37.54 8. ECNL: BETHESDA SC ECNL (MD) 37.52 9. ERL: GREATER BINGHAMTON FC BC UNITED (NYW) 37.49 10. ECNL: CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) 37.47 11. ECNL: MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ) 37.25 12. NPL: PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH (NJ) 37.19 13. EDP: SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 37.15 14. ERL: PREMIER SC NAVY (MD) 37.14 15. ECNL: FSA FC ECNL (CT) 37.04 16. ECNL: FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA) 37.03 17. ERL: FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV) 36.95 18. ERL: UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) 36.93 19. ECNL: WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE) 36.86 20. ECNL: ALBERTSON SC ECNL (NYE) 36.77 21. CCL: VIRGINIA LEGACY SC CCL ELITE (VA) 36.66 22. ERL: CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD (PAW) 36.66 23. ECNL: MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 36.61 24. EDP: READING RAGE SC MORGAN (PAE) 36.60 25. EDP: NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES (NJ) 36.58 26. ECNL: CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (PAE) 36.52 27. ERL: FC FREDERICK (MD) 36.52 28. ERL: LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) 36.50 29. NPL: ROCHESTER FC (NYW) 36.50 30. EDP: SUSA FC ELITE (NYE) 36.45 31. EDP: NEW JERSEY WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) 36.44 32. NPL: FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA) 36.42 33. CCL: BEACH FC VA RED (VA) 36.34 34. ERL: PRINCETON SA WILDCATS (NJ) 36.34 35. ECNL: BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY 0 (VA) 36.33 36. ERL/NPL: NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM (NJ) 36.22 37. ECNL: EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE) 36.17 38. EDP: SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 36.08
Good luck to all the Classic and Penn Legacy players that practiced today for the first time as one. Not sure of the inner workings or the logistics, but do believe it will make Classics a stronger club going forward.
Your right, I'm an idiot and had the wrong day. Lots of good parents and players on both clubs and just like to see them do well. I'll save my well wishes for the right day.
As many of us are in the midst of visiting colleges and attending ID clinics, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts and experiences on how college coaches interact with players they’re interested in at these camps, especially at the conclusion of the clinic.
On one extreme, we’ve been to camps where the coaches would call out players by number to stick around and talk to the head coach individually, which makes it very obvious to everyone at the camp who made the “cut” and who didn’t, and which can add a lot of time to the end of camp if your kid is one of the last in line to talk to the coach. There’s the middle ground where, during the fist bumps with the coaches at the end, instead of receiving the token “good job,” your player is told “really nice job [Name], we’ll be in touch.” Then, at the other extreme, are the camps where your kid played very well (and less assume for argument’s sake, that she objectively did play well) but the coach doesn’t really acknowledge your kid, or any other kid at the end.
I realize every coach or school has their own individual way of doing things but this last type of interaction confuses me because I would think that a coach would want to send some type of signal to a good player that has shown enough interest to attend your camp.
[and for the negative posters on here, I’ll save you the trouble and will just admit I’m a butthurt parent upset that the coach didn’t praise my little Mia enough at the ID clinic last night]
I think you described very well. I have nothing to add. Have seen all your examples and have also been butthurt as you say...:) Daughter has tried to pick the clinics that promise some type of evaluation. But sad to say, that doesn't always happen.
1:53 My class of 2019 daughter went to 2 D1 ID camps... she played very well at both...
She was one of the better players at the first one... She did not introduce herself, she said a fast goodbye and did not go out of her way to look the coach in the eye and interact with him. Feedback we got from someone who knew the coach was "he really liked her, but wanted to see her a few more times"
At the second one at a different school, a couple of months later, she went up to him before it started. She made sure she spoke to him during the camp briefly, and afterwards she was ready to talk to him again. After the camp he had her in a chat, and then us chatting for an hour. She did play well and a week later that coach drove a couple of hours each way to see her play a High School game. She spoke to him on the phone 2 or 3 times and committed a couple of days later
Our personal story, do a little homework about the school and the coach and have your daughter ready to talk to the coach before and after the camp.
Both coaches were really smart, well spoken people, but if you know the kind of player they already have, it can really help.
Just my two cents.. best of luck to you and your daughter.
They can move kids up from Pre-Academy/Developmental to play in up to 6 games total. If spots on those you may be able to move into the DA squad for a few games and test the waters of that club or team.
Are DA try outs like regular try outs? Are they held toward end of season like April or May? Or for a club like Classics that is merging are they not open to new players?
DA rosters.... Tino will always be on the prowl to pick up new players.
Generally tryouts are all at the same time but if a team is looking for a player, coaches will be observing those players in their environment and probably make an offer before tryouts.
Re: Classics Legacy Ballyhoo, the mergers keep on coming in... they have huge roster but coaches have an idea of who they want to replace.... Rumor is several girls will be leaving to go back to HS play
Captain obvious in the house.... Add that even what you call "serious" players may call bs on the whole experience and leave. I know 2 who are starters but will not return, right or wrong, their decision.
Narrow minded and typical view. My daughter has 2 school teammates who are D1 committed. College coaches were in their camp when they made decision to not play DA. They have a good club team and they were satisfied with that level of play.
10:27 Did I actually read that PAC does a better job at developing players at a younger age? You do realize that PF's 01/02 starting keeper, starting defensive mid/center back and their second leading scorer (all 02's), and one more that doesn't start, are from Penn Legacy? Even with PAC's current 01/02 DA roster, four of their better players are from Penn Legacy (one play's up with the U19's). Even with that being said, PAC struggled at all levels of DA play. There is help on the way, but it won't be coming from the development and training of their lower age groups. Basically and to their credit, PAC managed to emulate Tino's method of drawing in talent from outside clubs. It did this by being able to take advantage of the idiocy of PL's leadership, Continental's loss of what was their best coach and leader, and the knowledge that PF already had it's roster set before DA tryouts. We also shouldn't forget clubs like HMMS and LDC falling apart also, combined with the constant chaos that reigns supreme at Penn United. All clubs hope to draw in better players, so there is nothing wrong with admitting to it and taking advantage of it. PAC will get stronger next year simply because of what was just stated, and by some PF parents and players receiving this springs dose of reality, and more importantly because PAC does have some of the best coaches at the DA level. Obviously not a PAC parent, but do think PAC's coaching is superior when it comes to the older age groups (14U on up) as opposed to the lower levels. Especially on a small field, where effort coaches can look better than technical coaches simply because of results.
Tried hard finding the 10:27 you referred to but couldn't... IMHO as an ex PL parent, everything you say is true except for the superior coaching part at PAC older ages. From everything i hear, the girls side played 2nd fiddle all these years due to boys DA and now they're trying to catch up. But the only change they made was bringing 1 new coach for 15s and 17s.
Maybe they’ll pick up a couple of the unhappy PF players who are about to be spending a lot of time on the bench now that their hs players are back. I hear some are already planning their departures.
The coaches that PAC has had in place for the last few years are very, very good. I actually thought the one they brought in 01/02, wasn't as good as his resume' suggested. Seemed more of an effort coach than technical. There are a couple athletes on that team that would improve the overall team speed, if their technical ability improved, and in turn increased their minutes played. Instead, those players are still deficient in the area's they need to work on the most. Normally I would put this one the player and some on the parent, but the DA puts great emphasis on their practice minutes vs game minutes. PAC has strong Mid's, it's on the edges where opposing teams are quicker in their attack.
Most of us think that wouldn't be a bad thing 5:02. Especially since it's always considered ignorance when it's doesn't fit your narrow viewfinder. Actually our day is ruined when you don't treat us to one of your post, most of us are waiting with pen in hand, just hoping to have a keepsake of your brilliance. Is there a bigger form of ignorance than arrogance? Don't let me stop you from looking for a sharp object.
2:38 it’s obvious you’re a PAC parent. Better yet a parent of a PAC midfielder. Anyway, sorry to burst your bubble but your midfield was beat the entire game I watched. Tell your daughter to play the ball quicker if she wants to get interest.
I am the furthest thing from a PAC parent (although I do know a handful of them) and it's good to see I was correct about your arrogance. Read the last sentence from your post 2:38 and think about not only your arrogance, but also the ignorance it takes to make a statement like that. Should I match your ignorance and say "tell your daughter to not to be even a little bit like her dad and she'll actually have friends"? No, I don't want to stoop to that level. I'm sure she loves you even though she knows what you are. Kids are often like that. Hopefully she has mom to fall back on as a role model.
For being so very far from being a PAC parent you seem to have a weird vested interest. Read your post 2:38 again. That’s just odd considering your daughter doesn’t even play for them. Maybe stick to critiquing her team. I’m sure your team parents just love you.
Not a weird interest 2:38. It's this new thing that you probably have never encountered yet. It's called being friends with many families on multiple teams and wishing them the best and hoping they all succeed. Oh wait, you only know the world through your little view finder, and every time you snap a new picture it only has her in it. You may not have any, but do you at least allow her to have friends? You know that post you put out there about the slow player needing to play a little quicker to gain interest? Look how slow witted you are on this blog and all the interest you just gained. So maybe being slow is okay. Critiquing each others team is what we have done on this blog for the last two or three years, what we don't do is critique an individual players. As for my daughters team, they get critiqued on here all the time and not all of it very good (even down to my daughter's field position). I get a chuckle out of it and it's all part of the fun of being a big boy on this blog. Now go see if your wife will let you wear some big boy pants and join in without getting offended every two post. Or you can just keep clicking you little viewfinder.
12:21 - are you seriously saying Penn Legacy is taking credit for these players, now? knowing them, then and now, they were not the players they are today had they stayed at PL.
I think what 12:21 is saying is that there was a very good developmental coach at PL when those girls came through, one that refused to use a sweeper and didn't play kick the ball over the top. He made them work back and move to space, even if it meant losing the game because some team had a great athlete that could outrun everyone. Even more than that, he was totally vested in the team and was direct with the parents (even to their chagrin sometimes). One of the reasons I thought PF struggled so much as a U13 team was that they relied on one or two players so heavily during the small field years. Didn't take them very long to fix that issue though and their coach has them playing some great soccer now. Your question is a good one and of course PL can only take credit for what was ingrained in these players up to U13. And to be honest, a couple of the players came to that team as U13 players. Those players that went other toteams like, PF, PAC, CFC and even Rage, are very good players because of the coaches they have had and have, the hard work they have put in, but also the foundation they were given in the beginning. Pretty sure the story is similar with players of everyone on this board, just a different path taken.
I like reading posts from people that make the decision for daughter to move to another club. It is very refreshing however when the move is for the hoped success of your daughter. Our daughter moved on and she will always mention the part different coaches have played in her development. Some is negative but mostly looks for the positive. Stop trashing one club bc you decided to move or could move. I know many girls who have not moved bc they cannot. Whether it is financial, logistical or other. Best of luck to all our daughters!!
8:00 Good post. But some on here take the back and forth ribbing a little to seriously. Do we really need to defend our daughter's teams or our decisions on why we went there? Not really and how does chatter on this board affect what happens anyway? It's just talk and sometimes people forget to put their feelings in a little bag before they log on, and then take them out when their done. A blog can be informative, but also a fun read when it gets a little heated. Otherwise, we might as just post Tino's twelve pages of dribble he hands out during parent night and read that over and over. With a heavy accent of course.
So with both the Notre Dame and Michigan women's soccer coaches stepping down the other day, does that mean the players currently rostered can move to another school and not lose a years eligibility? Pretty amazing how much movement there has been among D1 coaches this year.
No disrespect - but this is a U17 board - who cares about current rosters. The question is what about the 2001 juniors/sophomores if they accepted their verbals to these schools. Will they still be honored? If not will they at least communicate to the players. Then what? The players reach out to the schools they turned down after they accepted their verbal?
thank you for the posting, but I don't think that list is correct. some of the old coaches are not the person listed. there should be a site that let's us know what is going on. NCAA should be posting a "coaches job posting" list like this for all sports. May cut down on the number of transfers or decommmits.
So I talked with two different D1 coaches in the last week, one from the northeast and one from a southeast conference school. Both said they thought there was more movement among the coaching ranks this year than they've seen in quite awhile, but neither could really say why. The assistant coach I talked to said the Miami Red Hawks (Mid Major D1), still have not replaced their coach who stepped down in August. So that would be another team on the list. So 11:16 is probably correct regarding the list. I was told there was over 20 D1 teams still looking for a coach. The one from ND was shocking because of the great success shown. James Madison is showing David Lombardo as head coach on their web site. Coach from the northeast said he is now into 2020 grad year as far as recruiting. But who the hell knows what's true and what's not? It's kind like buying a car.
My daughter committed back in the summer of 2017 then they fired the coach after the 2017 season. The new coach watched some video and saw her play at a showcase. He wouldn’t say one way or another that she was okay until he saw her play. All of the 2018 okay.
4:39 That is a great story to hear and good for your daughter. The transition into college from HS is tough enough, and then to lose the coach that recruited you could make for a disastrous situation.
So that is another position that has not been filled yet. Funny thing is, if it was a basketball or football coach, those positions would be filled in a month. Womens soccer doesn't exactly fill that stadium.
As someone noted, the list is not correct. Many coaches have been around for quite a bit (ie Dorrance, Swanson, Burleigh, etc.). The passing of the torch happens. It just does. Be ready or have your safety schools on speed dial.
true, but some do. actually many do. expensive lesson. looking for the best program name on the sweatshirt. how many pick a club team based on the coach? coach is the lure. if attached to a great school, even better.
4:39 - what do you mean need to see her play? to continue to offer her a position or her scholarship $$ he needed to see her play? he/she will probably want to see several games to complete personal evaluation if not part of the original recruiting staff. I agree about the video part. if it's a highlight video then usually parts about making mistakes not included. only presents player in best light. coaches want to see them in all situations. how do they bounce back from a bad game? do they bounce back? do they ball watch, take off plays? a highlight reel won't give you that insight.
8:22: Your point about the player loving the school for the school is correct, unfortunately if they have been awarded scholarship money and grant money by the exiting coach, that all can change quickly by the incoming coach. That is the real crux of the issue. The other is issue is the trickle down effect that these open jobs will have on current coaches that may leave their present job, either for more money or stature. Every coach you talk to on a recruiting visit will tell you they love where their at, but it never hurts to find out where their roots are and is this place just a temporary stepping stone.
You are a little late - no surprises you say? So you think these teams are in the correct flights? These are shockers not surprises.
Elite Group A FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA) - This team was relegated to the Premier dinsion of the ERL and instead of accepting it they dropped the league to avoid the black eye and it seemed to work on the Jeff Cup but it's VA looking out for VA or at least that's how it looks..
Superior Orange NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) (This is the B team that replaced the A team in the National league and hadawhopping -17 goal differential.
Superior Black VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA) PDA FUSION (NJ)
Championship 39.14 MCLEAN 01G ECNL (VA) 37.75 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U17 AP (MA) 37.67 PDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL (NJ) 37.56 SUSA NPL G01 (NYE) 37.41 FC BUCKS 01 ECNL (PAE) 37.39 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL 01 (VA) 37.37 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 01 (MD) 37.37 BC UNITED SA 2001 PREMIER (NYW) 36.99 PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) (MD) 36.79 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 36.60 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 36.34 MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN)
Elite 37.97 FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL) 37.44 CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC) 36.99 SJEB RUSH 01G ACADEMY (NJ) 36.89 AZ ARSENAL 01 PREMIER TEAL (AZ) 36.70 WORLD CLASS FC 01 ECNL (NYE) 36.59 CSA IMPACT UNITED 01G NIKE MRL BLACK (ON) 36.45 READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (PAE) 36.45 MARYLAND UNITED FC 2001 ECNL (MD) 36.38 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD) 36.31 SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE) 36.19 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA) 36.13 CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC) 36.07 SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS) 36.07 NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) 35.62 LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA) 35.56 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ)
Superior 37.08 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ) 36.88 FSA FC GIRLS 01 ECNL (CT) 36.79 FURY ATHLETICA (WV) 36.77 WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK (CND:ON) 36.53 COLLIERVILLE SOCCER 01 LADY LOBOS RUSH BLUE (PREMIER) (TN) 36.52 CENTURY 01 GOLD (PAW) 36.51 VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA) 36.42 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES (NJ) 36.36 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL 01G (PAE) 36.29 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL (NJ) 36.21 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA) 36.18 SANTA MONICA UNITED 01G (CAS) 36.18 PSA WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ) 36.05 NCFC 01G ELITE (NC) 36.02 EAST MEADOW 2001 ECNL DASH (NYE) 35.94 SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 35.90 BEADLING SC 01 ELITE (PAW) 35.84 ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA) 35.83 BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) 35.55 PDA FUSION (NJ) 35.46 NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) 35.32 UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) 35.11 FLORIDA KRUSH BLACK 01 (FL)
Platinum 37.05 PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ) 36.35 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD (OS) 36.35 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE) 36.28 WILMINGTON HAMMERHEADS FC WHYFC LADIES WHITE (NC) 36.26 FC STARS NPL 01 (MA) 36.11 UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT USA/MP 01 PREMIER I (SC) 35.99 CDA SLAMMERS FC G01 NICHOLS (CAS) 35.75 NEFC BBA 2001 NPL (MA) 35.72 PDA SOUTH SPURS '01 (NJ) 35.41 STA 2001G NPL (NJ) 35.39 CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE (NYE) 35.39 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01G (VA) 36.35 BURLINGTON SC BAYHAWKS G01-OPDL (CND:ON) 35.60 HFC READY 2001 (PAE) 35.59 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 2001 NORTH EAST NPL (NJ) 35.58 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD) 35.53 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 2001 (NH) 35.29 SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD) 35.04 SUNRISE STING 2001 BLACK (FL) 35.03 TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 2001 (FL) 34.99 NEW YORK SURF G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE) 34.95 YANKEE UNITED FC FLASH NPL 01 (CT) 34.95 PDA HORNETS 01 (NJ) 34.91 WESTSIDE BREAKERS 01 ELITE (CAS) 34.89 INTER ATLANTA FC 01G ELITE (GA) 34.61 FLORIDA FIRE JUNIORS 2001 GIRLS PREMIER (17U) (FL) 34.59 SOCA ELITE 01 U17 GIRLS (VA) 34.35 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)
Moved up to Championship 37.97 FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL) 37.44 CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC) 37.08 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ) ========================================= Dropped to Elite 36.79 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) 36.60 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE) 36.34 MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN) ======================================== Moved Up to Elite 37.05 PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ) 36.88 FSA FC GIRLS 01 ECNL (CT) 36.79 FURY ATHLETICA (WV) 36.77 WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK (CND:ON) ========================================= Dropped to Superior 36.31 SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE) 36.19 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA) 36.13 CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC) 36.07 SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS) 36.07 NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ) ======================================== Moved to Superior 36.35 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD (OS) 36.35 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE) 36.28 WILMINGTON HAMMERHEADS FC WHYFC LADIES WHITE (NC) 36.26 FC STARS NPL 01 (MA) 36.11 UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT USA/MP 01 PREMIER I (SC) ======================================== Dropped to Platinum 35.94 SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 35.90 BEADLING SC 01 ELITE (PAW) 35.84 ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA) 35.83 BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) 35.62 LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA) 35.56 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) 35.55 PDA FUSION (NJ) 35.46 NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) 35.32 UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) 35.11 FLORIDA KRUSH BLACK 01 (FL)
Most importantly, team needs to be where the coaches will be. Make sure your daughter contacts coaches, they will come, even in what some of you consider "lower" brackets.
I would give Jeff Cup Officials a solid "B" on their bracket selection. ECNL teams are mostly in the top bracket where they should be, and gave credit to State Cup winner over GS point leader when it came to non-ecnl. They also are one of the tournaments that will make adjustments and move teams to a different bracket from time to time.
With this age group, all brackets play at same field complex so there's no issue. Field location can play a big role at other tournaments.
I agree with a B to JC. They generally do well and have conceded at times in bumping a team if coach has a good argument. Again, at this age, all you need to do is contact coaches....
Here's the college coaching changes for this year:
32 Open / 21 Filled
Portland - Michelle French (USWNT Assistant Coach) UConn - Margaret Rodriguez (UConn Associate Head Coach) William & Mary - Julie Shackford (FC Virginia DA Director) James Madison - Pitt - Randy Waldrum (Former Houston Dash Head Coach) UMass - Jason Dowiak (South Florida Associate Head Coach) Arkansas Little Rock - Mark Foster (South Alabama Assistant Coach) Army - Adrian Blewitt (Arkansas Little Rock Head Coach) Miami (OH) - Courtney Sirmans (Rice Assistant Coach) East Carolina - Jason Hamilton (Mississippi State Associate Head Coach) Richmond - Marty Beall (High Point Head Coach) Towson - Katherine Vettori (Director Vettori Soccer Academy) Austin Peay - Naomi Kolarova (Tennessee Wesleyan Head Coach) Northwestern State - Jess and Anna Jobe (Dallas Baptist Assistant Coaches) South Dakota - Michael Thomas (Cal State Fullerton Associate Head Coach) New Mexico State - Rob Baarts (San Jose State Assistant Coach) Marist - Leigh Howard (Bucknell Assistant Coach) Incarnate Word - Emma Wright-Cates (Owner of Pass & Move LLC) Youngstown State - Brian Shrum (Duquesne Associate Head Coach) Prairie View A&M - UMBC - Vanessa Mann (William and Mary Assistant Coach) Fairfield - David Barrett (Illinois Wesleyan Head Coach) North Dakota State - Michael Regan (Indiana Assistant Coach) Arkansas Pine Bluff - High Point - Cal State Bakersfield - Murray State - Northern Illinois - Miami (FL) - Mount St. Mary - Elon - Notre Dame - Michigan -
Agreed @ 1:42 pm, you're list is great. t/y and before I get jokes about time of posting, i'm just getting back from my shift at hospital. not everyone is a 9-5er ya know.
Or is it that it's the only time the patients get to use the computer? Only 18 more days until the Penn Fusion Tournament. Spring is just around the corner!!!
Yep. It's snowing here in PA/NJ area. Hope PA's pet, Pux Phil, doesn't see his shadow. If he does, 6 more weeks of severe weather. Isn't that the tale? Btw - loved the movie.
Just one time I'd like to see a dog grab Pux Phil and run off with him, never to be seen again. Sunny and in the 40's for the PF tourney, with a warm breeze blowing out the southwest. Tino will be working in the beverage truck during the games, handing out free hot chocolate and tryout signups for PF pre academy teams. There will be a chance for photo opportunities with Coach Craig once the DA games have ended, (five dollar or four Euro donation appreciated).
Nice,,,no beer? If I know Tino, all roster spots are already accounted for for fall 2018 teams :) Tryouts just look pretty. Up to 8 roster spots available for DA also...grapevine told me
Das roster spots already given? NOCHNIE ICH SAGE DIR!!!!! Ich bin nein doof!! You think fools would pay for pre academy spots if they knew there was no chance to make the academy team? How dare you insinuate 11:14!! Once we expand our DA roster to 32, there will be many spots open. Direktor von Coaching
Can anyone provide additional insight on how the ECNL PDP process works? Are there really objective scouts watching games at showcases and recommending players? Do opposing coaches recommend players or is it just the TD or coach sending ECNL a list of their favorite players?
It's goes by the TD sending a list of not favorite players, but most deserving. Last thing a TD wants is a reputation of sending players that are marginal at best.
In August this board be comes u18 and the 2002s will go to the u16 board that will become U17 as they repeat this age again.
PENN FUSION SOCCER ACADEMY U-18/19 has 3 roster spots for 1999 players and I'm guessing a good chunk of the 16 - 2000 players are seniors also. The PENN FUSION SOCCER ACADEMY U-16/17 has 14 - 2001 players.
Remember next year the 2001s are the young ones and the 2000s are the older ones.
Yawn. Always funny to check this blog before heading into the office. Usually a laugh to start off the day. thank you/danke.
Some of the last posts seem to be personal. ???
knowing the seniors the kids that are graduating or graduated early (1999er's and early calendar year 2000's), on the older PF teams DA U18/19, 99 pre-academy, I believe all are committed.
If your kid is an end of calendar year 2000, junior heading into senior year, don't panic. many kids don't commit until going into or early in their senior year.
You people are too much. Trying to secure spots so no one trys out.
I believe at least 11 of the current U18/19 DA team is graduating this june or already graduated. That's more than 3 roster spots as someone posted. That's 1/2 the team. In 99 pre-DA, I believe nearly all of those kids are graduating in June.
Spots available bottom line. Time to make the donuts. thanks for the chuckle.
one last note, my understanding of the pre-da vs. da and movement of kids/playing time for da is that kids on pre-da can play up to 6 games on da roster. anyone know? don't know how many can do this, but thought that was the purpose of both rosters - movement and development.
That's the supposed intent of pre DA. But when the DA rosters are 24+ and half the team already doesn't play, do you see that really happening? "development players" often train with DA so if the training is the supposed most important part of development then go for it. But development player label has also been used to get the HS players on the team after the season...
7:29 Those 5 HS players were developing while playing HS ball and simply surpassed the level of the players that were developing on the "pre academy" team. Some of you on this board under estimate the high level of coaching these girls receive under a HS coaches tutelage. There was one player on the pre academy team that TM thought about bringing up to the DA, but thought 25 might be too many players for one team. In a constant effort to increase the development of the Pre Academy players, PF is requiring pre academy players to stand on the parent's sidelines during DA games this year. The new PF spiritwear sweatshirts must be worn to do so and can be purchased online for $35 at Pennfusion@linetinospockets.com
7:29 my kid's GDA plays up kids to get rotation on the roster. plus coaches like to see kids playing with older kids as the games are even faster. it's a win/win.
11:02 sounds like one of those DA teams that doesn't have enough players on 99 team. But go ahead and buy what your coach told you about rotating players...
I don't see where the flights are listed for Jeff Cup. The only list I see is the excepted team list that is broken down in a flight group. Will that be the groupings?
11:52 Those are the brackets, they just haven't been divided yet into groups of four. I have McLean winning the first bracket, no matter who they get grouped with. Second bracket is a complete toss up. 11:51 You are right on the money (Money being an important word here).
7:52 Don't you appreciate the chance to learn a second language? Or do you just dislike Germans simply because we dominate the world in soccer and look good in lederhosen? Maybe if we could share a sauerkraut and schnitzel sandwich with some pomme frites at the Penn Fusion Tourney, you would see things a little different. I'd even bring some room temperature Hefeweizen beir (with lemon of course), but bring your own lederhosen.
I will not translate that on here, but that is pretty funny!! I believe the group "Insane Clown Posse" also had and album with the same name. Look at that list of coaches for the Penn Fusion Tournament!! You would think that it was being held at Disney or something like that. Wanting to get a look at all that talent at the U15-U18 level on display.
Let me know which ones you..I mean your daughter, contacted so my daughter doesn't contact same ones. she already has 19 coming just for her... Gruss Gott
Wow! I didn't get to see the comments that were removed, but must have been an angry person on this morning. Whoever that person was, I'll gladly buy him some hot chocolate and a pastry at the PF tournament. Which by the way, is only 15 days away.
These were not angry posts at all. Someone posted lines from Young Frankenstein movie with Gene Wilder and Cloris Leachman. Very funny. And noted that Pux Phil predicted more severe weather. How is that harmful? PETA on the board, now? Pathetic.
Oh yea, the 1-800 line tino's pocket is still up but the guy that said he was soccer poor and wearing shirts with moth holes taken down. See ya. Heading to another blog.
Hey!!! Choices have to be made and maybe the admin has never seen Young Frankenstein. Heading to another blog?? That's like a crack addict saying he's never coming back to his favorite corner. I don't know who the administrator is on the this blog, but I think (he or she) is pretty lenient. As long as we're not calling out a particular player, we get to say our piece. But if you insist on heading to another blog, maybe they'll send you tissues and a free skirt if you get your feelings hurt.
Pretty lenient?? would agree if the terminator, excuse me administrator, didn't just come through blotting out pretty nothing posts. I thought that were the rules too. not naming kids. haven't seen Young Frankenstein?? living under a rock. not trustworthy anyway it seems. i'm with the other blogger. talking soccer and in the net much better. no tissues needed. they know how to rip it back and forth. bye all. nice knowing ya
final comment - nice pick JMU. He was on UCLA staff. good to see nice picks for head coaches.
12:48 and 1:04 You could try being a little more clever in your delivery, although your yardstick might not reach into that arena. There's a way to be cynical, witty, and informative, without suffering a sense of poignancy after hitting the post button. Then in addition, being upset when a post is removed.
PF 01 just committed to Indiana. I think that's makes 11 players now committed from that squad. Have to admit, PF does get their players looks from college coaches.
Who cares if it’s simply for a spot on the bench and no money. Sounds impressive now but in 2 years it won’t be much fun if the player isn’t actually playing.
As long as she's going to college and earning a degree, then she is doing everything her parents hoped for. Being around goal oriented kids for eight isn't necessarily a bad thing.
9:40 and many do commit to these big schools for no money. Not something I would hope my daughter would ever consider. Those student loans aren’t fun to pay back!
10:22 So you would have your daughter not go at all if she had the opportunity? Even if that school offered the courses she wanted for her perceived career and has been her school of choice?
There are lots of schools out there. Why commit to one who doesn’t offer you scholarship money (if the chances of getting money are good from others) and take on the burden of debt? One where chances of seeing the field aren’t good unless your national player level or close to. We arent talking about an Ivy here. Indiana has a 78% acceptance rate. Of coarse it’s fun for an athlete to say they are going to “play” for a big school. As a parent it’s my job to bring realty into the conversation. These are 15/16/17 year olds who don’t have enough knowledge or experience in the real world and need guidance. Do you think that PF coach cares about these things? I assure you he only cares about how he looks in the process. To him, bigger the D1, better he looks.
8:33 Your question is fair but many variables to think of not as black and white.
If she needed to take a $200,000 loan, opportunity or not she wouldn't go. I'll play your game you telling me you would put your kid 200K in debt before Graduate school? Ouch.
Aside from money - Impressive quality educations if they play it's a bonus
Penn Fusion From 2001 team Class 2020: 3 Total Indiana University Penn State University University of Florida
Class 2019: 7 Total 1 Duke University 1 Temple University 1 Northwestern University 1 University of Pennsylvania 1 Lafayette College 1 Dartmouth College 1 University of South Carolina
9:23 Why commit early? I don't know because the school wants them and they get to remove some stress from the equation and some money - wouldn't you? 78% of how many applicants? Example School A accepts 1,560 students, school B also accepts 1,560 students. School A has an acceptance rate of 78% and school B has an acceptance rate of 16%. people are quick to say school Bis the better school. But what they fail to mention is that school B also had 8,000 more applicants.
If you have the offer and it's the school you want GO FOR IT! If you are holding out for more money be careful a lot can happen after that offer to make it go away with no others to follow or you might get more offers.
Great Job kids - they went to ECNL/USDA club to lock down a D1 offer not play for a D2 or D3 school and they did it.
You’re missing my point. I have no issue with committing as as sophomore. A 16 year old needs plenty of guidance though. Many at this age don’t have the mindset to look at the big picture. The realistic picture. If your child isn’t being offered more than a roster spot/no money/barely any money you would really tell them to GO FOR IT? If a school doesnt offer a decent amount of money, they don’t want them that bad! As far as the acceptance rate you got me. Good point.
Guess no one will know for sure for another 2 years and by then no one outside of her and her family will even likely care. Unless you people plan to still be blogging through the college years. Actually I can see the PF tournament-weather guy still at it! LOL Best of luck to all these girls though through this exciting time.
11:11 the point is soccer is subjective, how do you know the coach will still feel the same after the player trains with their team everyday? Like 11:53 said only time will tell.
11:06 Thanks and I agree about guidance and any thing 50% or greater I tell her Go FOR IT!. Thant knocks down a 70K school to 35k and a 40K a year school down to 20k and this is before need and academic money. Anything less we would need to crunch numbers. I agree 100% with you about controlling debt to make sure she has a chance to go for hers in the big picture of life.
10:32 either do you, a coach will say anything to field the best team their job depends on it.
not sure why anyone is even mentioning coach's motives in the process. let's hope it's with good intentions, but it falls on the parents. WE have the deciding vote. it's your kid. don't be sucked into the hoopla. look out for your kid. no one else is going to.
yes players and parents have the final say but coaches have major influence not only openly but behind the scenes. Especially with players who can’t be contacted directly by the schools yet. Coaches have their connections with certain schools. You scratch my back I scratch yours mentality.
10:30 Although I don't agree with all you posted, I did like some of it. As some have posted after you, no one is eating $200.000 while playing at Indiana. But there is a good point made about kids getting to decide where their heading. Not sure how you guys and ladies are doing it, but I have had my kids make a short list of five schools and made sure we looked hard at each school. Courses, distance, on campus and off or home, grad rate of coach's players, the freshmen retention rate is huge to look at, and of course the soccer team and coach. Cost is a hard projection, because no one is sure how much a school will give or what's available. Job placement or employment achieved upon graduation is also another thing to look at. I found I have had to catch my kids in their slowdown time just to really think these issues through, as they often think they are invulnerable to such issues. They don't think they'll ever get injured and face the possibility of being just a student and not a student athlete.
More importantly 60 days (about - not counting) until the North Carolina DA Showcase where the college coaches from all over the country will be present in masses.
Ah yes, the DA showcase. Where they make one bracket the has four teams with a total of 5 wins and no coaches show up. Lot of great offers came out of that one. Although there was this one girl that received and offer from Rutgers of Camden College. So that's not to bad.
So we go back to going after the kid. "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" I think that's Socrates, but I might be wrong. You must be a shinning example to your daughter.
U17 DA - Bracket A WASHINGTON SPIRIT ACADEMY VIRGINIA (VA) FC VIRGINIA USSF DA 02/01 (VA) PENN FUSION SA DA 2001 (SCANGARELLA) (PAE) WASHINGTON SPIRIT DA (MD)
Showcase Red - Bracket A DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01 (DE) READING RAGE '01 MORGAN (PAE) HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD) 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE) HMMS EAGLE FC 01 UNITED (PAE) FC EUROPA '01 ELITE (PAE)
Showcase White - Bracket A MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 2001 NORTH EAST NPL (NJ) PENN FUSION SA PREACADEMY 2001 (CRAIGIE) (PAE) FC EUROPA 01/02 ELITE (PAE) SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS NPL (NJ)
You can almost smell the grass growing on the fields as the warm sun beats down. Penn Fusion Tournament is only 8 days away. So few teams, yet so many coaches.
Ahh 11:40, only the top D1's will do for you. So schools like Bucknell, Bowling Green, LaSalle, Seton Hall, Lehigh and schools of similar ilk are out and not even to be considered?
7:14 Not sure what you are saying about hating on his comment. He stated that the top D1 schools are coming to see only a few players. That may very well be true and is often the case. My post was that many of us are okay with the schools I mentioned, such a mid majors and lower level D1's as far as soccer. Not all of our daughters are Top 20 material, mine included. Not sure what extra dimension was added there? I was indeed talking about D1 as related to soccer. On another note, A certain German fellow in charge of PF agreed to release the roster by January 31, that will be heading to the next DA showcase. Since there are currently 28 players overall, parents are beginning to wonder how long the crafty german can delay and avoid the hailstorm after the announcement. Maybe he meant Jan 31st 2019?
12:23 That would seem like the logical way to go, but that's not how it went down in Florida. Maybe during the Florida Showcase there was a priority placed upon trying to win, because it was their first one. Maybe that won't be the case this time around.
In all fairness to PF, there is a considerable difference in the level of play between their starters and non starter, which may be why they have 11 committed so far. PAC starters and non starters play at a similar level and it doesn't affect game play as much. As PAC draws in more talent in the next couple years, they will be dealing with the same issue's PF does. This may sound like a horrible slight against PAC, but it's not meant to be. PF is two years ahead of them because they had the ECNL program.
Yes they are ahead I agree because of ECNL however I doubt their roster is equal from 1-? You never find that to be true on any team. However good for their coach following the DA guidelines putting development before wins. Parents and players may not like it but that’s what the program is about.
2:52 Good point about the PAC coach. It's a point to note the PAC is run by individuals are more of the straight shooter types than most clubs. They would never put over twenty kids on a roster, just so they wouldn't go to another club. That being said, PDA and PF are still and by far, the top promotional clubs to play on, and will continue to be for the next couple years.
Out of those 11 players how many got scholarships? How many got at least 50%? This all about prestige with some and so be it as that it their decision but is that really truly impressive to commmit to (random example so I don’t target) Michigan for $0? If a player is committing to a big program for under 50% that should say a lot to them, mostly prepare to sit.
nope. every school wants a practice squad and you have to plan for injuries and academic ineligible players. there is a reason some rosters carry about 30+ kids. then, after those kids didn't pan out, they don't get to travel and are then given an indirect force off of the team. then, the find another team that will appreciate them. meanwhile, they lost a year or two of eligibility. happens all the time in the top programs and in all the sports. it's a business and they don't coddle like club.
it's so funny how far some of these teams have come. i remember a pf squad having only 2 wins a few yrs ago. just shows you what getting impact players will do. PAC will be the same.
8:43 that's a really good question and one that I've find really important when I sit with my daughter and looking at a school. I have found that most schools report close to an 80% freshmen retention rate, so they are losing 1 out of every five. That seems high to me, but maybe someone can give me some different figures? Not sure what the retention rate is for athletics though and that could totally different from D1, to D2 and D3.
The PF roster is really bigger than 28. There are a bunch of age eligible playups on the u19 team. The mistake the DA makes is in letting the showcase games count toward the overall record and therefore play off eligibility. The match top teams with top teams. To lose 3 games to give kids more time might take them out of playoff contention and will certainly lower their seeding for same making their chances of success in June less. Blame the USSF for play time issues in Florida.
Guys take a step back and look at the word Showcase how it relates to soccer.
USDA Showcase is for the top players so the NT scouts can get a good look at them (College coaches are a bonus and will come here to see the top players on these teams). USDA is not about college it's about NT teams!
ECNL/NL/NPL/ERL league games are not showcase games even though they might have the word showcase in them. College coaches come here to see the top players (some that have verbals to their schools) on these teams play for the result.
CASL/Disney/Jefferson/Surf are showcase events to showcase all the players on the roster. College coaches come to these events to see the players that don't play much in the other events. Committed players should play little to no minutes in these games.
7:58, 10:23 here - I'm also in shock these teams are in high flights also, but I believe these flights are final. Schedules should be published shortly.
FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ) LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA) UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE) ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA) SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ) BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD) VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA) PDA FUSION (NJ)
10:23 has a good breakdown on what is the leagues are actually suppose to be about and represent. Unfortunately, almost none of the leagues work in that fashion and many parents would be upset if they did so. So USSF hires Carlos Cordeiro as it's new leader. Even though he has worked under the previous USSF President (Sunil Gulati), and together they claimed their efforts would be to increase not the numbers of kids playing soccer in the US, but to make it affordable to all those that want to. My question is how can Cordeiro possibly know any of the issues faced when he has never been a coach or an administrator at any level. Even as vice president of USSF he has only dealt with upper echelon international management and neglected any interactions with in state clubs officials of any kind. Yet he constantly says he wants to be a part of a "grass roots" movement to get more kids involved at the lower levels. Says that soccer has been "priced out" of lower income families because of higher level travel clubs, yet spurns any interaction within those same clubs. I'm sure Mr. Cordeiro will indeed have some new idea's for youth soccer going forward, and by this time next year there will be a new league with at least four capital letters in it. It will be the new gold standard by which all the best players will hope to be in. This will have to happen because after each USSF election, the elected president will have to show the directors that he is making his mark. I do realize that it is a thankless job and it's a job open for criticism from all sides, but I do not see Cordeiro changing the landscape even a little bit.
Guys, I have a bunch of suggestions just like I'm sure you guys have. The problem is we need a path and all Soccer clubs need to play by those rules and that will never happen because for many it's a supplemental income and for people to play for free others will need to play or the coaches make less. Then it becomes a why should I spend time away from my family for coaching kids for scraps? There are two sides to everything.
I just think we play to much of the PC card. USDA is fro NT teams 11 players start 3 subs per game. We all want our kid to be given a shot, but if they are not it's their team coach that decides that for what ever the reason. That's common knowledge. Support your kid for being on the team and support them when they are given their opportunity even if it's 5 minutes. Don't be a cancer. If you are unhappy leave. Same goes for all other teams, if you are unhappy leave it's that simple. Just because you are unhappy doesn't mean everyone else is even if they are agreeing with you or nodding their head, what do you expect them to say? It's okay if a player is not at a certain level, it sucks but it's okay not everyone is equal and top D1 schools are only there for a few players that's a true statement and yes the other schools are good and they are there for other players and yes I will be happy for my kid if she get's a 50%+ ride to the school of her choice which ever it is soccer or no soccer.
There will never be a true move in US soccer to a landscape that will grow the sport beyond what it is today, I actually see it taking another step back with the recent Election of Cordeiro. The only hope is that the DA and ECNL models stay in their lane. But there are still too many blinders on to actually make that happen. Parents want bragging rights and for the predominant funders of US Youth Soccer (Middle to upper income suburban families) those bragging rights end with My kid got a scholarship to “Fill in the Blank College”. Saying my Daughter Plays for the Thorns, or Orlando Pride or Sky Blue FC is really not a cocktail party brag, more like an anecdote. And the path to the USNT is so jacked up girls are on the outside looking in before they even hit highschool. The men’s side is even a bigger joke with DA’s telling the boys that College soccer is crap and we can get you an international contract if you stick with us, using Pulisic as their poster boy. And trying to lure the best inner city athletes with either of those incentives will not happen as long as you are competing with the NBA and NFL. As the parent of a daughter who will be going off to college in the fall I can say that soccer served it’s purpose for her. It taught her to be organized, to be outspoken, a leader and to stand up for herself. She will play in college, which according to Forbes, and the WSJ, will help her in whatever profession she chooses. After her first go around with ODP 5 years ago I realized that we were not with the right club, did not have the right connections, and her path would be to play the game she loved without all the additional noise. Yes soccer in the US is pay to play, but it is also who you know. So while $$ may get you to the club there is still a lot of steps to get you to the right team.
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«Oldest ‹Older 2401 – 2600 of 3065 Newer› Newest»Yes, my daughter plays for one of the teams mentioned in 1:50 post. Coach does a great job in instructing the girls to reach out to coaches and how to follow up. She has been contacted by at least 16 schools so far. A mix of all three Divisions. We will see what this season brings. As far as to many games I don't believe that to be the case. Most tournys she plays in is just one game a day. And it might seem like they are chasing points but it is the furthest thought in our coaches mind. The problem is my daughter doesn't know what she wants to major.
Similar here...best wishes to your daughter.
My daughter's major is available at most schools. She needs to decide her geographical area and distance from home, her school size and setting and whether she will go where the most money is offered or decide on other factors.
11:10 If your talking top 20 schools (soccer wise) like Penn State, Duke, UCLA, North Carolina, the answer would be no. To be honest, I'm not sure she is that caliber of player. However, she has had direct contact with smaller D1's like Coastal Carolina, Longwood, Lehigh, and schools of a similar D1 vein and each have said there is scholarship money available. She hasn't proceeded to the next step of finding out how much, but with each conversation, she is becoming more and more comfortable talking with the coaches.
I was wondering if any of you on this board have any kids in a D2 school? I would like to know how their system works regarding possible scholarship/grant money? My daughter has had a couple of these schools inquire about her interest (Wingate, Caldwell, Bloomfield), but so far, she has not reached back to them.
5:56 brings up a good point about deciding what major. Is it better to go undeclared in their freshmen year if your daughter is not sure?
It seems as though I have more questions than actual answers. Similar to 5:56's coach, our coach does do a great job being a liaison to any school his players wish to talk with.
My older daughter started college undeclared. School did however have the 3 majors she was torn between.
She/we chose the best soccer/financial offer.
She was open to going anywhere.
Regarding D2..she's at a D2 but, coming from PA, there's a big difference in $$$ scholarships with PSAC D2 and let's say...Wingate, Belmont-Abbey etc....
2:05 30 games played in a year not a season. Most teams are under 30.
3:26 we are idiots, for posting on this board. But it's like crack.
9:51 more than 4 committed already wow. Good job my kid's team has 2 so far both 2020s.
10:08 Come on man - think about it - if the team played at CASL twice, Disney twice and Jefferson once to name a few -and the school was there - does it really matter where you play? I think not, it just matters how she played. We have 2 like I said at D1 schools and my kid's team was never in a top flight.
10:53 - I used just got soccer with no cross reference for game counts. 1776 is not an EDP team they play Region 1 and national league. You think your kid'steam will beat them this year and maybe make NCS Finals this year?
Not that it's important, but as a fan. Sorry, if you are not PAE
5:56 Contacted your kid's coach? I'm guessing she is a 2019? I say that because i don't think he asked about camp invites. I only say camp invites because some of the schools mentioned on here we get also - we the parents compare to eliminate mass mailings from CaptainU & TDS,
7:10/5:56 - agreed best wishes to your kids - hope they get to their promise land.
8:33 are most of these athletic scholarships 50%? Not talking about Need/Merit that some kids can also land to equal a full ride.
For my kid she knows exactly where she want to go and she is on their radar. They know her by name and they have been to the last 4 tournaments she's played in multiple games. She's only talked to the coaches at their clinic. She didn't ask her club coach for anything so far. Not sure what they would bring to the table anyway at this point. We'll see when she's a junior what type of interest she gets as far as schools reaching out and how that process works.
8:33 Could you elaborate a little more on the difference between PSAC D2 and the likes of Wingate, Belmont types?? I ask because there are over 300 schools
in 44 states, plus Canada. At 25 players per team, that's 7,500 spots to be filled in one way or another. Thanks for the good info.
PSAC are D2 but also state schools--total $23-25K tuition and board. Less athletic money/less money overall but some soccer is pretty decent...West Chester and Kutztown are always top 1-3 in PSAC.
Wingate for example is D2---$43K+ tuition and board. But is private and more money available altogether, athletic/merit.
However...my daughter, private D2 final bill after all athletic/merit scholarships is less than her friend at PSAC D2 after all her "discounts".
Parents income/need almost equal btw...
Doesn't make the decision any easier does it? :)
No it doesn't, but that was an excellent explanation. Next question? My daughter is a 2020 grad year player, so every contact from school's interested has had to come through her club coach (D1 and D2's), and then he passes their phone number on to us. Has anyone out there had this rule circumvented at all? So far we've had a couple schools say they didn't know she was a 2020 grad (even though it's clearly stated). Honest mistake or what??? And can she lose eligibility by responding? Sorry 10:41 But it's great to pick the brain of someone with answers.
Also 2020 here, which is why I'm on this blog...:)
Last year, my daughter traveled with another family to tourney. She called me after a game telling me that a D1 coach had spoken with her. I think he got "around" the rule by speaking to 3 girls at one time?
I don't think she's responsible for a coach initiating, he's the "adult" bound by the rules first and foremost.
Best way to circumvent this, go to ID clinic at campus, talk as much as you want...
My daughter had D1 coaches calling house and leaving messages. some will do whatever it takes. not saying it's right, but it happens.
I find it hard to believe college coaches would break NCAA rules. I do have one important question regarding coaches and it's something that's been bothering me for quite awhile.
When we refer to more than one coach, is it "coaches", or coach's? A little help from the Grammar Nazi would be great. I now understand why being sent to the office all those times wasn't a good thing.
singular: coach
plural: coaches
singular possessive: coach's
plural possessive: coaches'
it's all good (it's = it is). :)
Look at that! Is there a more informative blog than this one? This blog is just a wealth of information and best of all it's free. Now if we could only figure out Tino's secret formula when it comes to figuring out Penn Fusion yearly payments.
How did matchfit lose so many players? And why would pda pick up players from matchfit with known parents stealing from their local soccer clubs? Messed up
I think you'll find PF is similar to many clubs.
Plus they're non profit :)
There are negatives of course, especially for the #15-24 on the bench but TM has developed quite the machine and many are flocking there right?
Tino's dream of replicating PDA's success has almost come to fruition. As much as we poke fun at him on here, you have to give him credit for his singular focus. It was that long ago that Spirit United was the big dog in West Chester.
Exactly...
Just like Trump is hated but is actually get the job done :)
Maybe we can all wish TM poor health like the media is doing...
9:09 hahaha. stranger is that unlike PDA, I don't believe that any PF girls' team has ever won a national anything in all their years in NPL and ECNL.
9:20 that's messed up. I am sure it's in jest, but still, messed up.
9:09 That is very true, but lets remember that Tino has been building his copy for the last five years. Just like most copies, they are never quite as good as the original or can ever have the same depth of history.
Speaking of PF, I know the applied list for their tournament was out. Has anyone seen the accepted list for the U17 bracket?
ask your coach
not this crew. kids on the board would raise the maturity level.
Careful 2:39. You patted 1:44 on the back so hard that you almost hurt him. If you don't have anything positive to say, then why even post. Former post simply asked for U17 bracket at PF Tourney and received a ignorant answer.
DA Bracket
Washington Spirit Academy (VA)
FC Virginia
Penn Fusion
Washington Spirit DA (MD)
Showcase Red
Delaware Rush
Reading Rage (Morgan)
Harford FC United Thunder
1776 United
HMMS Eagle FC
FC Europa
Showcase White
Match Fit Academy FC (Northeast NPL)
Penn Fusion SA Preacademy
FC Europa 01/02 Elite
SJEB Rush 01 NPL
didn't realize the comments can only apply to the initially posted comment. go back and read some of the posts. they are absurd. kids would have posted something better and with more flair.
box of tissues for you are on the way.
The only ones that seem upset are you (we'll call you Lovey) and Thurston Howell III. So I did look back over the last few days and there was conversation about what value there might be playing EDP. There was someone explaining the difference in D2 schools (PSAC and private). Then there was that low brow conversation on what college coaches are allowed to do in regards to recruiting.
How dare these posters post such mundane and nonsensical thoughts on here!! What possible bearing could any of that have on their daughter regarding soccer? And then the nerve of someone to ask if somebody knew the PF brackets, can you imagine asking a soccer related question on this blog and expecting an answer?
Then there was that poster lamenting over the coaches attending the VDA tournament, what possible right did he have to post one here?
You and Thurston need to find an island where you two can only post your own little thoughts. You can keep Gilligan, but leave Nary Ann behind.
8:38 That was a great passive aggressive post. Back in the day when someone was aggressive on the phone, it was called "telephone tough guy", but I'm not sure what the hip term is today when on an anonymous blog.
When I read this blog I expect to see some good reads and some that I have no interest in (or dumb ones). The only time I find myself commenting in a negative way is when Thurston and Lovey show their arrogance towards others on here.
29 DAYS UNTIL THE PF TOURNAMENT!!!! It's starting to warm up already!!
Top Non-USDA teams per YSR scores (36+)
1. ECNL: FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS ECNL (MA) 39.42
2. ECNL: MCLEAN YS ECNL (VA)39.30
3. NPL: SOUTH SHORE SELECT AP (MA) 37.89
4. ECNL: PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY ECNL (NJ) 37.83
5. NPL: SUSA FC NPL (NYE) 37.71
6. ECNL: FC BUCKS ECNL (PAE) 37.58
7. ECNL: RICHMOND UNITED SC VA ECNL (VA) 37.54
8. ECNL: BETHESDA SC ECNL (MD) 37.52
9. ERL: GREATER BINGHAMTON FC BC UNITED (NYW) 37.49
10. ECNL: CONNECTICUT FC ECNL (CT) 37.47
11. ECNL: MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL (NJ) 37.25
12. NPL: PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SOUTH (NJ) 37.19
13. EDP: SJEB RUSH ACADEMY (NJ) 37.15
14. ERL: PREMIER SC NAVY (MD) 37.14
15. ECNL: FSA FC ECNL (CT) 37.04
16. ECNL: FC BOSTON SCORPIONS ECNL (MA) 37.03
17. ERL: FURY SC ATHLETICA (WV) 36.95
18. ERL: UNITED FC 1776 XTREME (PAE) 36.93
19. ECNL: WORLD CLASS FC ECNL (NYE) 36.86
20. ECNL: ALBERTSON SC ECNL (NYE) 36.77
21. CCL: VIRGINIA LEGACY SC CCL ELITE (VA) 36.66
22. ERL: CENTURY V SOCCER GOLD (PAW) 36.66
23. ECNL: MARYLAND UNITED FC ECNL (MD) 36.61
24. EDP: READING RAGE SC MORGAN (PAE) 36.60
25. EDP: NJ ELITE WATCHUNG HILLS FLAMES (NJ) 36.58
26. ECNL: CONTINENTAL FC ECNL (PAE) 36.52
27. ERL: FC FREDERICK (MD) 36.52
28. ERL: LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED BLACK (PAE) 36.50
29. NPL: ROCHESTER FC (NYW) 36.50
30. EDP: SUSA FC ELITE (NYE) 36.45
31. EDP: NEW JERSEY WILDCATS FURY NPL (NJ) 36.44
32. NPL: FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NPL (MA) 36.42
33. CCL: BEACH FC VA RED (VA) 36.34
34. ERL: PRINCETON SA WILDCATS (NJ) 36.34
35. ECNL: BRADDOCK ROAD YOUTH CLUB ELITE ACADEMY 0 (VA) 36.33
36. ERL/NPL: NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY FREEDOM (NJ) 36.22
37. ECNL: EAST MEADOW SC ECNL (NYE) 36.17
38. EDP: SJEB RUSH PREMIER WHITE (NJ) 36.08
10:56 hilarious.
28 days
Good luck to all the Classic and Penn Legacy players that practiced today for the first time as one. Not sure of the inner workings or the logistics, but do believe it will make Classics a stronger club going forward.
Ummm that didn’t happen?
5:43 You were either misinformed or your binoculars needed adjusting.
Your right, I'm an idiot and had the wrong day. Lots of good parents and players on both clubs and just like to see them do well. I'll save my well wishes for the right day.
Got awhile until August 1 there my friend. Clubs are not merging until then.
5:43 is the strangest post I've seen in a while. smh
7:49 Why? PA Classics is a USDA and can add to their roster when ever they want.
With the govt shutdown, USDA is closed.
Maybe USSDA is still adding to their roster...
As many of us are in the midst of visiting colleges and attending ID clinics, I’d love to hear people’s thoughts and experiences on how college coaches interact with players they’re interested in at these camps, especially at the conclusion of the clinic.
On one extreme, we’ve been to camps where the coaches would call out players by number to stick around and talk to the head coach individually, which makes it very obvious to everyone at the camp who made the “cut” and who didn’t, and which can add a lot of time to the end of camp if your kid is one of the last in line to talk to the coach. There’s the middle ground where, during the fist bumps with the coaches at the end, instead of receiving the token “good job,” your player is told “really nice job [Name], we’ll be in touch.” Then, at the other extreme, are the camps where your kid played very well (and less assume for argument’s sake, that she objectively did play well) but the coach doesn’t really acknowledge your kid, or any other kid at the end.
I realize every coach or school has their own individual way of doing things but this last type of interaction confuses me because I would think that a coach would want to send some type of signal to a good player that has shown enough interest to attend your camp.
[and for the negative posters on here, I’ll save you the trouble and will just admit I’m a butthurt parent upset that the coach didn’t praise my little Mia enough at the ID clinic last night]
I think you described very well. I have nothing to add.
Have seen all your examples and have also been butthurt as you say...:)
Daughter has tried to pick the clinics that promise some type of evaluation. But sad to say, that doesn't always happen.
1:53 My class of 2019 daughter went to 2 D1 ID camps... she played very well at both...
She was one of the better players at the first one... She did not introduce herself, she said a fast goodbye and did not go out of her way to look the coach in the eye and interact with him. Feedback we got from someone who knew the coach was "he really liked her, but wanted to see her a few more times"
At the second one at a different school, a couple of months later, she went up to him before it started. She made sure she spoke to him during the camp briefly, and afterwards she was ready to talk to him again. After the camp he had her in a chat, and then us chatting for an hour. She did play well and a week later that coach drove a couple of hours each way to see her play a High School game. She spoke to him on the phone 2 or 3 times and committed a couple of days later
Our personal story, do a little homework about the school and the coach and have your daughter ready to talk to the coach before and after the camp.
Both coaches were really smart, well spoken people, but if you know the kind of player they already have, it can really help.
Just my two cents.. best of luck to you and your daughter.
11:23 is that true? I thought DA had roster freeze too.
DA coaches aren’t going to add on until 2018/2019 year. Rosters are full.
They can move kids up from Pre-Academy/Developmental to play in up to 6 games total. If spots on those you may be able to move into the DA squad for a few games and test the waters of that club or team.
Are DA try outs like regular try outs? Are they held toward end of season like April or May? Or for a club like Classics that is merging are they not open to new players?
DA rosters....
Tino will always be on the prowl to pick up new players.
Generally tryouts are all at the same time but if a team is looking for a player, coaches will be observing those players in their environment and probably make an offer before tryouts.
Re: Classics Legacy Ballyhoo, the mergers keep on coming in...
they have huge roster but coaches have an idea of who they want to replace....
Rumor is several girls will be leaving to go back to HS play
Serious players will stay DA while the not so serious go back to school ball (or the players not seeing field time). Nothing wrong with that.
Captain obvious in the house....
Add that even what you call "serious" players may call bs on the whole experience and leave.
I know 2 who are starters but will not return, right or wrong, their decision.
Most “true” D1 level players aren’t going to leave DA to play high school.
Narrow minded and typical view.
My daughter has 2 school teammates who are D1 committed.
College coaches were in their camp when they made decision to not play DA.
They have a good club team and they were satisfied with that level of play.
I said “most” and it’s true
Any inside scoop on VDA showcase?
The list of coaches is growing slowly..
all the coaches going to the EDP showcase......DA stinks.....
EDP Showcase? Where?
hahahaha
Yes they're all going to the edp futsal tournament!
10:27 Did I actually read that PAC does a better job at developing players at a younger age? You do realize that PF's 01/02 starting keeper, starting defensive mid/center back and their second leading scorer (all 02's), and one more that doesn't start, are from Penn Legacy? Even with PAC's current 01/02 DA roster, four of their better players are from Penn Legacy (one play's up with the U19's). Even with that being said, PAC struggled at all levels of DA play. There is help on the way, but it won't be coming from the development and training of their lower age groups.
Basically and to their credit, PAC managed to emulate Tino's method of drawing in talent from outside clubs. It did this by being able to take advantage of the idiocy of PL's leadership, Continental's loss of what was their best coach and leader, and the knowledge that PF already had it's roster set before DA tryouts. We also shouldn't forget clubs like HMMS and LDC falling apart also, combined with the constant chaos that reigns supreme at Penn United.
All clubs hope to draw in better players, so there is nothing wrong with admitting to it and taking advantage of it. PAC will get stronger next year simply because of what was just stated, and by some PF parents and players receiving this springs dose of reality, and more importantly because PAC does have some of the best coaches at the DA level.
Obviously not a PAC parent, but do think PAC's coaching is superior when it comes to the older age groups (14U on up) as opposed to the lower levels. Especially on a small field, where effort coaches can look better than technical coaches simply because of results.
Tried hard finding the 10:27 you referred to but couldn't...
IMHO as an ex PL parent, everything you say is true except for the superior coaching part at PAC older ages.
From everything i hear, the girls side played 2nd fiddle all these years due to boys DA and now they're trying to catch up. But the only change they made was bringing 1 new coach for 15s and 17s.
Maybe they’ll pick up a couple of the unhappy PF players who are about to be spending a lot of time on the bench now that their hs players are back. I hear some are already planning their departures.
The coaches that PAC has had in place for the last few years are very, very good. I actually thought the one they brought in 01/02, wasn't as good as his resume' suggested. Seemed more of an effort coach than technical. There are a couple athletes on that team that would improve the overall team speed, if their technical ability improved, and in turn increased their minutes played.
Instead, those players are still deficient in the area's they need to work on the most. Normally I would put this one the player and some on the parent, but the DA puts great emphasis on their practice minutes vs game minutes.
PAC has strong Mid's, it's on the edges where opposing teams are quicker in their attack.
The ignorance on this blog kills me sometimes.
Most of us think that wouldn't be a bad thing 5:02. Especially since it's always considered ignorance when it's doesn't fit your narrow viewfinder. Actually our day is ruined when you don't treat us to one of your post, most of us are waiting with pen in hand, just hoping to have a keepsake of your brilliance. Is there a bigger form of ignorance than arrogance? Don't let me stop you from looking for a sharp object.
2:38 it’s obvious you’re a PAC parent. Better yet a parent of a PAC midfielder. Anyway, sorry to burst your bubble but your midfield was beat the entire game I watched. Tell your daughter to play the ball quicker if she wants to get interest.
I am the furthest thing from a PAC parent (although I do know a handful of them) and it's good to see I was correct about your arrogance. Read the last sentence from your post 2:38 and think about not only your arrogance, but also the ignorance it takes to make a statement like that.
Should I match your ignorance and say "tell your daughter to not to be even a little bit like her dad and she'll actually have friends"? No, I don't want to stoop to that level. I'm sure she loves you even though she knows what you are. Kids are often like that. Hopefully she has mom to fall back on as a role model.
For being so very far from being a PAC parent you seem to have a weird vested interest. Read your post 2:38 again. That’s just odd considering your daughter doesn’t even play for them. Maybe stick to critiquing her team. I’m sure your team parents just love you.
Not a weird interest 2:38. It's this new thing that you probably have never encountered yet. It's called being friends with many families on multiple teams and wishing them the best and hoping they all succeed. Oh wait, you only know the world through your little view finder, and every time you snap a new picture it only has her in it. You may not have any, but do you at least allow her to have friends?
You know that post you put out there about the slow player needing to play a little quicker to gain interest? Look how slow witted you are on this blog and all the interest you just gained. So maybe being slow is okay.
Critiquing each others team is what we have done on this blog for the last two or three years, what we don't do is critique an individual players.
As for my daughters team, they get critiqued on here all the time and not all of it very good (even down to my daughter's field position). I get a chuckle out of it and it's all part of the fun of being a big boy on this blog. Now go see if your wife will let you wear some big boy pants and join in without getting offended every two post. Or you can just keep clicking you little viewfinder.
Anyway..... how bout dem birds!
12:21 - are you seriously saying Penn Legacy is taking credit for these players, now? knowing them, then and now, they were not the players they are today had they stayed at PL.
I think what 12:21 is saying is that there was a very good developmental coach at PL when those girls came through, one that refused to use a sweeper and didn't play kick the ball over the top. He made them work back and move to space, even if it meant losing the game because some team had a great athlete that could outrun everyone. Even more than that, he was totally vested in the team and was direct with the parents (even to their chagrin sometimes). One of the reasons I thought PF struggled so much as a U13 team was that they relied on one or two players so heavily during the small field years. Didn't take them very long to fix that issue though and their coach has them playing some great soccer now.
Your question is a good one and of course PL can only take credit for what was ingrained in these players up to U13. And to be honest, a couple of the players came to that team as U13 players. Those players that went other toteams like, PF, PAC, CFC and even Rage, are very good players because of the coaches they have had and have, the hard work they have put in, but also the foundation they were given in the beginning. Pretty sure the story is similar with players of everyone on this board, just a different path taken.
I like reading posts from people that make the decision for daughter to move to another club.
It is very refreshing however when the move is for the hoped success of your daughter.
Our daughter moved on and she will always mention the part different coaches have played in her development. Some is negative but mostly looks for the positive.
Stop trashing one club bc you decided to move or could move.
I know many girls who have not moved bc they cannot. Whether it is financial, logistical or other.
Best of luck to all our daughters!!
8:00 Good post. But some on here take the back and forth ribbing a little to seriously. Do we really need to defend our daughter's teams or our decisions on why we went there? Not really and how does chatter on this board affect what happens anyway? It's just talk and sometimes people forget to put their feelings in a little bag before they log on, and then take them out when their done. A blog can be informative, but also a fun read when it gets a little heated. Otherwise, we might as just post Tino's twelve pages of dribble he hands out during parent night and read that over and over. With a heavy accent of course.
ja dats reit mein freund
ich bin Amerikaner, but sprechen ze deuscth?
Must be a huge Lewandowski fan!!
So with both the Notre Dame and Michigan women's soccer coaches stepping down the other day, does that mean the players currently rostered can move to another school and not lose a years eligibility? Pretty amazing how much movement there has been among D1 coaches this year.
anyone know all the open spots? can you list for us? t/y
No disrespect - but this is a U17 board - who cares about current rosters.
The question is what about the 2001 juniors/sophomores if they accepted their verbals to these schools. Will they still be honored? If not will they at least communicate to the players. Then what? The players reach out to the schools they turned down after they accepted their verbal?
Not sure how many are open? but I found this
Head Women's Soccer Coach Elon University
Head Women's Soccer Coach Mount St. Mary's University
Head Women's Soccer Coach High Point University
NCAA DIVISION I WOMEN
COLLEGE ... OLD COACH ... NEW COACH
BUFFALO Jean-A. Tassy ... TBA job posting
CINCINNATI Meridy Glenn ... TBA job posting
CLEMSON Todd Bramble (Alabama coach) ... TBA
ELON Chris Webb ...TBA job posting
GREEN BAY Quinn Ross ... TBA job posting
IOWA STATE Rebecca Hornbacher ... TBA
JACKSONVILLE Chris Kouns ... TBA
LAMAR Matthew Dillon ... TBA job posting
MICHIGAN Debbie Rademacher ... TBA job posting
NORTHERN ILLINOIS Marci Miller Jobson (Baylor coach) ... TBA
OKLAHOMA Randy Evans ... TBA job posting
SAN JOSE STATE Dave Siracusa ... TBA
TROY STATE Diana Niland ... TBA
TULSA Rena Richardson ... TBA job posting
VERMONT Kerry Dziczkaniec ... TBA job posting
WYOMING Anne Moore ...TBA
thank you for the posting, but I don't think that list is correct. some of the old coaches are not the person listed. there should be a site that let's us know what is going on. NCAA should be posting a "coaches job posting" list like this for all sports. May cut down on the number of transfers or decommmits.
*decommits sorry for the error.
James Madison hasn’t named a head coach yet have they?
So I talked with two different D1 coaches in the last week, one from the northeast and one from a southeast conference school. Both said they thought there was more movement among the coaching ranks this year than they've seen in quite awhile, but neither could really say why. The assistant coach I talked to said the Miami Red Hawks (Mid Major D1), still have not replaced their coach who stepped down in August. So that would be another team on the list. So 11:16 is probably correct regarding the list. I was told there was over 20 D1 teams still looking for a coach.
The one from ND was shocking because of the great success shown. James Madison is showing David Lombardo as head coach on their web site.
Coach from the northeast said he is now into 2020 grad year as far as recruiting. But who the hell knows what's true and what's not? It's kind like buying a car.
My daughter committed back in the summer of 2017 then they fired the coach after the 2017 season. The new coach watched some video and saw her play at a showcase. He wouldn’t say one way or another that she was okay until he saw her play. All of the 2018 okay.
4:39 That is a great story to hear and good for your daughter. The transition into college from HS is tough enough, and then to lose the coach that recruited you could make for a disastrous situation.
JMU Head Coach Dave Lombardo retired.
So that is another position that has not been filled yet. Funny thing is, if it was a basketball or football coach, those positions would be filled in a month. Womens soccer doesn't exactly fill that stadium.
As someone noted, the list is not correct. Many coaches have been around for quite a bit (ie Dorrance, Swanson, Burleigh, etc.). The passing of the torch happens. It just does. Be ready or have your safety schools on speed dial.
They need to love the school. A player shouldn’t be choosing a school based on a coach.
true, but some do. actually many do. expensive lesson. looking for the best program name on the sweatshirt.
how many pick a club team based on the coach? coach is the lure. if attached to a great school, even better.
4:39 - what do you mean need to see her play? to continue to offer her a position or her scholarship $$ he needed to see her play? he/she will probably want to see several games to complete personal evaluation if not part of the original recruiting staff.
I agree about the video part. if it's a highlight video then usually parts about making mistakes not included. only presents player in best light. coaches want to see them in all situations. how do they bounce back from a bad game? do they bounce back? do they ball watch, take off plays? a highlight reel won't give you that insight.
8:22: Your point about the player loving the school for the school is correct, unfortunately if they have been awarded scholarship money and grant money by the exiting coach, that all can change quickly by the incoming coach. That is the real crux of the issue.
The other is issue is the trickle down effect that these open jobs will have on current coaches that may leave their present job, either for more money or stature. Every coach you talk to on a recruiting visit will tell you they love where their at, but it never hurts to find out where their roots are and is this place just a temporary stepping stone.
Jeff Cup brackets already out. No real surprises as the top teams are in the top three brackets. Jeff Cup seems to do a good job with that.
You are a little late - no surprises you say?
So you think these teams are in the correct flights? These are shockers not surprises.
Elite
Group A
FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ)
LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA) - This team was relegated to the Premier dinsion of the ERL and instead of accepting it they dropped the league to avoid the black eye and it seemed to work on the Jeff Cup but it's VA looking out for VA or at least that's how it looks..
Superior Orange
NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE)
UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA) (This is the B team that replaced the A team in the National league and hadawhopping -17 goal differential.
Superior Black
VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA)
PDA FUSION (NJ)
Championship
39.14 MCLEAN 01G ECNL (VA)
37.75 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U17 AP (MA)
37.67 PDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL (NJ)
37.56 SUSA NPL G01 (NYE)
37.41 FC BUCKS 01 ECNL (PAE)
37.39 RICHMOND UNITED ECNL 01 (VA)
37.37 BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 01 (MD)
37.37 BC UNITED SA 2001 PREMIER (NYW)
36.99 PREMIER SC NAVY (STRIKERS) (MD)
36.79 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
36.60 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)
36.34 MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN)
Elite
37.97 FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL)
37.44 CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC)
36.99 SJEB RUSH 01G ACADEMY (NJ)
36.89 AZ ARSENAL 01 PREMIER TEAL (AZ)
36.70 WORLD CLASS FC 01 ECNL (NYE)
36.59 CSA IMPACT UNITED 01G NIKE MRL BLACK (ON)
36.45 READING RAGE 01 MORGAN (PAE)
36.45 MARYLAND UNITED FC 2001 ECNL (MD)
36.38 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)
36.31 SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE)
36.19 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA)
36.13 CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC)
36.07 SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS)
36.07 NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ)
35.62 LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA)
35.56 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ)
Superior
37.08 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ)
36.88 FSA FC GIRLS 01 ECNL (CT)
36.79 FURY ATHLETICA (WV)
36.77 WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK (CND:ON)
36.53 COLLIERVILLE SOCCER 01 LADY LOBOS RUSH BLUE (PREMIER) (TN)
36.52 CENTURY 01 GOLD (PAW)
36.51 VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA)
36.42 WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE 2001G FLAMES (NJ)
36.36 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL 01G (PAE)
36.29 NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL (NJ)
36.21 BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)
36.18 SANTA MONICA UNITED 01G (CAS)
36.18 PSA WILDCATS 01 GIRLS (NJ)
36.05 NCFC 01G ELITE (NC)
36.02 EAST MEADOW 2001 ECNL DASH (NYE)
35.94 SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ)
35.90 BEADLING SC 01 ELITE (PAW)
35.84 ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA)
35.83 BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD)
35.55 PDA FUSION (NJ)
35.46 NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE)
35.32 UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA)
35.11 FLORIDA KRUSH BLACK 01 (FL)
Platinum
37.05 PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ)
36.35 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD (OS)
36.35 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE)
36.28 WILMINGTON HAMMERHEADS FC WHYFC LADIES WHITE (NC)
36.26 FC STARS NPL 01 (MA)
36.11 UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT USA/MP 01 PREMIER I (SC)
35.99 CDA SLAMMERS FC G01 NICHOLS (CAS)
35.75 NEFC BBA 2001 NPL (MA)
35.72 PDA SOUTH SPURS '01 (NJ)
35.41 STA 2001G NPL (NJ)
35.39 CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE (NYE)
35.39 FC VIRGINIA UNITED ELITE 01G (VA)
36.35 BURLINGTON SC BAYHAWKS G01-OPDL (CND:ON)
35.60 HFC READY 2001 (PAE)
35.59 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 2001 NORTH EAST NPL (NJ)
35.58 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD)
35.53 SEACOAST UNITED NPL 2001 (NH)
35.29 SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)
35.04 SUNRISE STING 2001 BLACK (FL)
35.03 TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 2001 (FL)
34.99 NEW YORK SURF G01 LONG ISLAND (NYE)
34.95 YANKEE UNITED FC FLASH NPL 01 (CT)
34.95 PDA HORNETS 01 (NJ)
34.91 WESTSIDE BREAKERS 01 ELITE (CAS)
34.89 INTER ATLANTA FC 01G ELITE (GA)
34.61 FLORIDA FIRE JUNIORS 2001 GIRLS PREMIER (17U) (FL)
34.59 SOCA ELITE 01 U17 GIRLS (VA)
34.35 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)
Moved up to Championship
37.97 FC FLORIDA PREDATORS 01 GIRLS ELITE BLUE (FL)
37.44 CHARLOTTE SA CSA-NORTH/CABARRUS PREDATOR (NC)
37.08 MATCH FIT ACADEMY 2001 ECNL (NJ)
=========================================
Dropped to Elite
36.79 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
36.60 ALBERTSON SC FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)
36.34 MARIN FC G01 BLUE (CAN)
========================================
Moved Up to Elite
37.05 PDA SOUTH 01 (NJ)
36.88 FSA FC GIRLS 01 ECNL (CT)
36.79 FURY ATHLETICA (WV)
36.77 WOOLWICH SC WOLFPACK (CND:ON)
=========================================
Dropped to Superior
36.31 SUSA ELITE G01 (NYE)
36.19 BRYC ELITE ACADEMY ECNL U17 (VA)
36.13 CHARLOTTE SA 01G CHARLOTTE PREDATOR (NC)
36.07 SOUTH SLAMMERS FC ELITE G01 - DILBECK (CAS)
36.07 NJ STALLIONS 01 FREEDOM NPL (NJ)
========================================
Moved to Superior
36.35 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD (OS)
36.35 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 2001 GIRLS BLACK (PAE)
36.28 WILMINGTON HAMMERHEADS FC WHYFC LADIES WHITE (NC)
36.26 FC STARS NPL 01 (MA)
36.11 UNITED MOUNT PLEASANT USA/MP 01 PREMIER I (SC)
========================================
Dropped to Platinum
35.94 SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ)
35.90 BEADLING SC 01 ELITE (PAW)
35.84 ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA)
35.83 BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD)
35.62 LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA)
35.56 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ)
35.55 PDA FUSION (NJ)
35.46 NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE)
35.32 UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA)
35.11 FLORIDA KRUSH BLACK 01 (FL)
can't you just post the links?
Most importantly, team needs to be where the coaches will be.
Make sure your daughter contacts coaches, they will come, even in what some of you consider "lower" brackets.
8:57 Yes I agree. The posts were in response to a good job? If a "D" is a good job then yes it's a good job. Not talking college coaches.
Lower brackets or Field location?
8:39 Can you just visit their website for that?
I would give Jeff Cup Officials a solid "B" on their bracket selection. ECNL teams are mostly in the top bracket where they should be, and gave credit to State Cup winner over GS point leader when it came to non-ecnl. They also are one of the tournaments that will make adjustments and move teams to a different bracket from time to time.
With this age group, all brackets play at same field complex so there's no issue.
Field location can play a big role at other tournaments.
I agree with a B to JC. They generally do well and have conceded at times in bumping a team if coach has a good argument.
Again, at this age, all you need to do is contact coaches....
Here's the college coaching changes for this year:
32 Open / 21 Filled
Portland - Michelle French (USWNT Assistant Coach)
UConn - Margaret Rodriguez (UConn Associate Head Coach)
William & Mary - Julie Shackford (FC Virginia DA Director)
James Madison -
Pitt - Randy Waldrum (Former Houston Dash Head Coach)
UMass - Jason Dowiak (South Florida Associate Head Coach)
Arkansas Little Rock - Mark Foster (South Alabama Assistant Coach)
Army - Adrian Blewitt (Arkansas Little Rock Head Coach)
Miami (OH) - Courtney Sirmans (Rice Assistant Coach)
East Carolina - Jason Hamilton (Mississippi State Associate Head Coach)
Richmond - Marty Beall (High Point Head Coach)
Towson - Katherine Vettori (Director Vettori Soccer Academy)
Austin Peay - Naomi Kolarova (Tennessee Wesleyan Head Coach)
Northwestern State - Jess and Anna Jobe (Dallas Baptist Assistant Coaches)
South Dakota - Michael Thomas (Cal State Fullerton Associate Head Coach)
New Mexico State - Rob Baarts (San Jose State Assistant Coach)
Marist - Leigh Howard (Bucknell Assistant Coach)
Incarnate Word - Emma Wright-Cates (Owner of Pass & Move LLC)
Youngstown State - Brian Shrum (Duquesne Associate Head Coach)
Prairie View A&M -
UMBC - Vanessa Mann (William and Mary Assistant Coach)
Fairfield - David Barrett (Illinois Wesleyan Head Coach)
North Dakota State - Michael Regan (Indiana Assistant Coach)
Arkansas Pine Bluff -
High Point -
Cal State Bakersfield -
Murray State -
Northern Illinois -
Miami (FL) -
Mount St. Mary -
Elon -
Notre Dame -
Michigan -
1;42 your list blows away my Team lists that I posted earlier today.
#GreatJob!
It is good to see that there is only 11 openings left. Was kind of crazy for a few months, but I guess that goes on every year.
Agreed @ 1:42 pm, you're list is great. t/y
and before I get jokes about time of posting, i'm just getting back from my shift at hospital. not everyone is a 9-5er ya know.
Or is it that it's the only time the patients get to use the computer?
Only 18 more days until the Penn Fusion Tournament. Spring is just around the corner!!!
or 18 days til the VDA showcase, take your pic.
Sure doesn't look like spring today...
Yep. It's snowing here in PA/NJ area. Hope PA's pet, Pux Phil, doesn't see his shadow. If he does, 6 more weeks of severe weather. Isn't that the tale? Btw - loved the movie.
Just one time I'd like to see a dog grab Pux Phil and run off with him, never to be seen again.
Sunny and in the 40's for the PF tourney, with a warm breeze blowing out the southwest. Tino will be working in the beverage truck during the games, handing out free hot chocolate and tryout signups for PF pre academy teams. There will be a chance for photo opportunities with Coach Craig once the DA games have ended, (five dollar or four Euro donation appreciated).
Nice,,,no beer?
If I know Tino, all roster spots are already accounted for for fall 2018 teams :)
Tryouts just look pretty.
Up to 8 roster spots available for DA also...grapevine told me
Das roster spots already given? NOCHNIE ICH SAGE DIR!!!!! Ich bin nein doof!! You think fools would pay for pre academy spots if they knew there was no chance to make the academy team? How dare you insinuate 11:14!! Once we expand our DA roster to 32, there will be many spots open.
Direktor von Coaching
Can anyone provide additional insight on how the ECNL PDP process works? Are there really objective scouts watching games at showcases and recommending players? Do opposing coaches recommend players or is it just the TD or coach sending ECNL a list of their favorite players?
It's goes by the TD sending a list of not favorite players, but most deserving. Last thing a TD wants is a reputation of sending players that are marginal at best.
In August this board be comes u18 and the 2002s will go to the u16 board that will become U17 as they repeat this age again.
PENN FUSION SOCCER ACADEMY U-18/19 has 3 roster spots for 1999 players and I'm guessing a good chunk of the 16 - 2000 players are seniors also. The PENN FUSION SOCCER ACADEMY U-16/17 has 14 - 2001 players.
Remember next year the 2001s are the young ones and the 2000s are the older ones.
She plays in DA , change the " style of playing" moved around ... BUT still not committed...hmm wonder why?
Yawn. Always funny to check this blog before heading into the office. Usually a laugh to start off the day. thank you/danke.
Some of the last posts seem to be personal. ???
knowing the seniors the kids that are graduating or graduated early (1999er's and early calendar year 2000's), on the older PF teams DA U18/19, 99 pre-academy, I believe all are committed.
If your kid is an end of calendar year 2000, junior heading into senior year, don't panic. many kids don't commit until going into or early in their senior year.
You people are too much. Trying to secure spots so no one trys out.
I believe at least 11 of the current U18/19 DA team is graduating this june or already graduated. That's more than 3 roster spots as someone posted. That's 1/2 the team. In 99 pre-DA, I believe nearly all of those kids are graduating in June.
Spots available bottom line. Time to make the donuts. thanks for the chuckle.
one last note, my understanding of the pre-da vs. da and movement of kids/playing time for da is that kids on pre-da can play up to 6 games on da roster. anyone know?
don't know how many can do this, but thought that was the purpose of both rosters - movement and development.
That's the supposed intent of pre DA. But when the DA rosters are 24+ and half the team already doesn't play, do you see that really happening?
"development players" often train with DA so if the training is the supposed most important part of development then go for it.
But development player label has also been used to get the HS players on the team after the season...
7:29 Those 5 HS players were developing while playing HS ball and simply surpassed the level of the players that were developing on the "pre academy" team. Some of you on this board under estimate the high level of coaching these girls receive under a HS coaches tutelage. There was one player on the pre academy team that TM thought about bringing up to the DA, but thought 25 might be too many players for one team.
In a constant effort to increase the development of the Pre Academy players, PF is requiring pre academy players to stand on the parent's sidelines during DA games this year. The new PF spiritwear sweatshirts must be worn to do so and can be purchased online for $35 at Pennfusion@linetinospockets.com
7:29 my kid's GDA plays up kids to get rotation on the roster. plus coaches like to see kids playing with older kids as the games are even faster. it's a win/win.
10:45 It's always good to see when other's have a sense of humor. Have a great day.
11:02 sounds like one of those DA teams that doesn't have enough players on 99 team.
But go ahead and buy what your coach told you about rotating players...
I don't see where the flights are listed for Jeff Cup. The only list I see is the excepted team list that is broken down in a flight group. Will that be the groupings?
accepted
They are the brackets!
11:51 actually you're not correct. but keep playing.
11:52 Those are the brackets, they just haven't been divided yet into groups of four. I have McLean winning the first bracket, no matter who they get grouped with. Second bracket is a complete toss up.
11:51 You are right on the money (Money being an important word here).
It’s a annoying now
Keyboard typo. Sorry for the extra a.
UC brackets are live, chek them out
UC brackets? so many cups. my coffee needs a refill.
Yup
UC then JC then World Cup.
Oh wait, we're not in it...
7:52 Don't you appreciate the chance to learn a second language? Or do you just dislike Germans simply because we dominate the world in soccer and look good in lederhosen? Maybe if we could share a sauerkraut and schnitzel sandwich with some pomme frites at the Penn Fusion Tourney, you would see things a little different. I'd even bring some room temperature Hefeweizen beir (with lemon of course), but bring your own lederhosen.
I will not translate that on here, but that is pretty funny!! I believe the group "Insane Clown Posse" also had and album with the same name.
Look at that list of coaches for the Penn Fusion Tournament!! You would think that it was being held at Disney or something like that. Wanting to get a look at all that talent at the U15-U18 level on display.
Let me know which ones you..I mean your daughter, contacted so my daughter doesn't contact same ones. she already has 19 coming just for her...
Gruss Gott
Wow! I didn't get to see the comments that were removed, but must have been an angry person on this morning. Whoever that person was, I'll gladly buy him some hot chocolate and a pastry at the PF tournament. Which by the way, is only 15 days away.
These were not angry posts at all. Someone posted lines from Young Frankenstein movie with Gene Wilder and Cloris Leachman. Very funny. And noted that Pux Phil predicted more severe weather. How is that harmful? PETA on the board, now?
Pathetic.
Oh yea, the 1-800 line tino's pocket is still up but the guy that said he was soccer poor and wearing shirts with moth holes taken down. See ya. Heading to another blog.
Hey!!! Choices have to be made and maybe the admin has never seen Young Frankenstein. Heading to another blog?? That's like a crack addict saying he's never coming back to his favorite corner. I don't know who the administrator is on the this blog, but I think (he or she) is pretty lenient. As long as we're not calling out a particular player, we get to say our piece. But if you insist on heading to another blog, maybe they'll send you tissues and a free skirt if you get your feelings hurt.
Pretty lenient?? would agree if the terminator, excuse me administrator, didn't just come through blotting out pretty nothing posts. I thought that were the rules too. not naming kids. haven't seen Young Frankenstein?? living under a rock. not trustworthy anyway it seems. i'm with the other blogger. talking soccer and in the net much better. no tissues needed. they know how to rip it back and forth. bye all. nice knowing ya
final comment - nice pick JMU. He was on UCLA staff. good to see nice picks for head coaches.
agreed. other blogs more feisty; particular the NY ones. Brutal, but funny. just like some take away creativity on field; blog-a-nator doing it here.
12:48 and 1:04 You could try being a little more clever in your delivery, although your yardstick might not reach into that arena. There's a way to be cynical, witty, and informative, without suffering a sense of poignancy after hitting the post button. Then in addition, being upset when a post is removed.
DA ID sesions are starting to pop up! If your daughter is iinterested, check websites...
I didn't even know they had DA ID Sessions. Thanks for the heads up as my daughter has given it some thought.
PF 01 just committed to Indiana. I think that's makes 11 players now committed from that squad. Have to admit, PF does get their players looks from college coaches.
Who cares if it’s simply for a spot on the bench and no money. Sounds impressive now but in 2 years it won’t be much fun if the player isn’t actually playing.
As long as she's going to college and earning a degree, then she is doing everything her parents hoped for. Being around goal oriented kids for eight isn't necessarily a bad thing.
9:40 and many do commit to these big schools for no money. Not something I would hope my daughter would ever consider. Those student loans aren’t fun to pay back!
10:22 So you would have your daughter not go at all if she had the opportunity? Even if that school offered the courses she wanted for her perceived career and has been her school of choice?
626, is this the Penn Fusion dA team with 11 commitments. Does anyone know how that compares to PDA DA Cedar Stars DA match-fit ecnl PDA ecnl?
There are lots of schools out there. Why commit to one who doesn’t offer you scholarship money (if the chances of getting money are good from others) and take on the burden of debt? One where chances of seeing the field aren’t good unless your national player level or close to. We arent talking about an Ivy here. Indiana has a 78% acceptance rate. Of coarse it’s fun for an athlete to say they are going to “play” for a big school. As a parent it’s my job to bring realty into the conversation. These are 15/16/17 year olds who don’t have enough knowledge or experience in the real world and need guidance. Do you think that PF coach cares about these things? I assure you he only cares about how he looks in the process. To him, bigger the D1, better he looks.
That’s what I would be thinking for my daughter.
8:33 Your question is fair but many variables to think of not as black and white.
If she needed to take a $200,000 loan, opportunity or not she wouldn't go. I'll play your game you telling me you would put your kid 200K in debt before Graduate school? Ouch.
Aside from money - Impressive quality educations if they play it's a bonus
Penn Fusion From 2001 team
Class 2020: 3 Total
Indiana University
Penn State University
University of Florida
Class 2019: 7 Total
1 Duke University
1 Temple University
1 Northwestern University
1 University of Pennsylvania
1 Lafayette College
1 Dartmouth College
1 University of South Carolina
9:23 Why commit early? I don't know because the school wants them and they get to remove some stress from the equation and some money - wouldn't you?
78% of how many applicants? Example School A accepts 1,560 students, school B also accepts 1,560 students. School A has an acceptance rate of 78% and school B has an acceptance rate of 16%. people are quick to say school Bis the better school. But what they fail to mention is that school B also had 8,000 more applicants.
If you have the offer and it's the school you want GO FOR IT! If you are holding out for more money be careful a lot can happen after that offer to make it go away with no others to follow or you might get more offers.
Great Job kids - they went to ECNL/USDA club to lock down a D1 offer not play for a D2 or D3 school and they did it.
You have no clue what the coach wants for his players. None.
Putting the INDIANA U discussion into perspective:
Cost to attend is 49K for out of state resident.
Middle class family (I used mine) would need to pay just 25K per.
This doesnt factor in any soccer money
YES - state schools (outside your state) are often a great deal.
You’re missing my point. I have no issue with committing as as sophomore. A 16 year old needs plenty of guidance though. Many at this age don’t have the mindset to look at the big picture. The realistic picture. If your child isn’t being offered more than a roster spot/no money/barely any money you would really tell them to GO FOR IT? If a school doesnt offer a decent amount of money, they don’t want them that bad! As far as the acceptance rate you got me. Good point.
10:32 Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.
Why would you think a player committing from PF as a sophomore would automatically ride the bench at Indiana?
Guess no one will know for sure for another 2 years and by then no one outside of her and her family will even likely care. Unless you people plan to still be blogging through the college years. Actually I can see the PF tournament-weather guy still at it! LOL Best of luck to all these girls though through this exciting time.
11:11 the point is soccer is subjective, how do you know the coach will still feel the same after the player trains with their team everyday? Like 11:53 said only time will tell.
11:06 Thanks and I agree about guidance and any thing 50% or greater I tell her Go FOR IT!. Thant knocks down a 70K school to 35k and a 40K a year school down to 20k and this is before need and academic money. Anything less we would need to crunch numbers. I agree 100% with you about controlling debt to make sure she has a chance to go for hers in the big picture of life.
10:32 either do you, a coach will say anything to field the best team their job depends on it.
Agreed. Under 50% offered (as a sophomore) keep looking. Unless money is no object which then...I’m jealous.
12;11
The athletic doesnt come before the need.
If you are to get 50% based on need, the 50% athletic is the same 50%. And you pay the 35K/20K, whatever
Academic is a different animal.
not sure why anyone is even mentioning coach's motives in the process. let's hope it's with good intentions, but it falls on the parents. WE have the deciding vote. it's your kid. don't be sucked into the hoopla. look out for your kid. no one else is going to.
Yep
My parents had little input - and I went to the wrong school, no doubt. You have to be involved. Dont get misled by what others say.
1:33 not the way it was explained to my daughter.
Need = $15,000
Tuition - Need = $50,000 - $15,000 = $35,000
Athletic 50% = $17,500
Adjusted Tuition - Athletic = $35,000 - $17,500 = $17,500
Presidential Scholarship covers the rest.
Coach will always look to make his roster the best. I'm with you 1:37 & 1:50
1:37
yes players and parents have the final say but coaches have major influence not only openly but behind the scenes. Especially with players who can’t be contacted directly by the schools yet. Coaches have their connections with certain schools. You scratch my back I scratch yours mentality.
10:30 Although I don't agree with all you posted, I did like some of it. As some have posted after you, no one is eating $200.000 while playing at Indiana. But there is a good point made about kids getting to decide where their heading. Not sure how you guys and ladies are doing it, but I have had my kids make a short list of five schools and made sure we looked hard at each school. Courses, distance, on campus and off or home, grad rate of coach's players, the freshmen retention rate is huge to look at, and of course the soccer team and coach. Cost is a hard projection, because no one is sure how much a school will give or what's available. Job placement or employment achieved upon graduation is also another thing to look at. I found I have had to catch my kids in their slowdown time just to really think these issues through, as they often think they are invulnerable to such issues. They don't think they'll ever get injured and face the possibility of being just a student and not a student athlete.
2:11 - pretty sure thats not it......
If the calculation says you can pay 25K, that doesnt decrease just because you got athletic money
Thus
50K total
Your need is 25K. You get that. Have to pay 25.
Athletic is at 50%? Well, you and a walkon are equivalent, as you pay the same 25K as if you walk on.
9 more days until the Penn Fusion Tournament.
32 D1 coaches attending
8 D2 coaches attending
50 D3 coaches attending
Only one has to love the way your daughter plays.
Good luck.
What no weather update to go along with it?
More importantly 60 days (about - not counting) until the North Carolina DA Showcase where the college coaches from all over the country will be present in masses.
Ah yes, the DA showcase. Where they make one bracket the has four teams with a total of 5 wins and no coaches show up. Lot of great offers came out of that one. Although there was this one girl that received and offer from Rutgers of Camden College. So that's not to bad.
Maybe not for your kid.....
So we go back to going after the kid. "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" I think that's Socrates, but I might be wrong.
You must be a shinning example to your daughter.
Calling out specific players is out of line people!
U17 DA - Bracket A
WASHINGTON SPIRIT ACADEMY VIRGINIA (VA)
FC VIRGINIA USSF DA 02/01 (VA)
PENN FUSION SA DA 2001 (SCANGARELLA) (PAE)
WASHINGTON SPIRIT DA (MD)
Showcase Red - Bracket A
DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01 (DE)
READING RAGE '01 MORGAN (PAE)
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 01/02 (MD)
1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
HMMS EAGLE FC 01 UNITED (PAE)
FC EUROPA '01 ELITE (PAE)
Showcase White - Bracket A
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 2001 NORTH EAST NPL (NJ)
PENN FUSION SA PREACADEMY 2001 (CRAIGIE) (PAE)
FC EUROPA 01/02 ELITE (PAE)
SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS NPL (NJ)
You can almost smell the grass growing on the fields as the warm sun beats down. Penn Fusion Tournament is only 8 days away. So few teams, yet so many coaches.
And the top D1 are coming to see only a very few players...
Ahh 11:40, only the top D1's will do for you. So schools like Bucknell, Bowling Green, LaSalle, Seton Hall, Lehigh and schools of similar ilk are out and not even to be considered?
7:30 Why hate on his comment? The top D1s are there for every few players. What's wrong with that statement?
This is a soccer board so my guess is that top D1 schools are top D1 soccer schools. Why are you adding another dimension to his/her post?
7:14 Not sure what you are saying about hating on his comment. He stated that the top D1 schools are coming to see only a few players. That may very well be true and is often the case. My post was that many of us are okay with the schools I mentioned, such a mid majors and lower level D1's as far as soccer. Not all of our daughters are Top 20 material, mine included. Not sure what extra dimension was added there? I was indeed talking about D1 as related to soccer.
On another note, A certain German fellow in charge of PF agreed to release the roster by January 31, that will be heading to the next DA showcase. Since there are currently 28 players overall, parents are beginning to wonder how long the crafty german can delay and avoid the hailstorm after the announcement. Maybe he meant Jan 31st 2019?
It would make sense to not take committed players wouldn’t it? They no longer need the showcase.
12:23 That would seem like the logical way to go, but that's not how it went down in Florida. Maybe during the Florida Showcase there was a priority placed upon trying to win, because it was their first one. Maybe that won't be the case this time around.
That why you have to admire PAC DA. They place no emphasis on winning and play all their players.
That is true. All players had equal time in Florida.
In all fairness to PF, there is a considerable difference in the level of play between their starters and non starter, which may be why they have 11 committed so far. PAC starters and non starters play at a similar level and it doesn't affect game play as much. As PAC draws in more talent in the next couple years, they will be dealing with the same issue's PF does. This may sound like a horrible slight against PAC, but it's not meant to be. PF is two years ahead of them because they had the ECNL program.
Yes they are ahead I agree because of ECNL however I doubt their roster is equal from 1-? You never find that to be true on any team. However good for their coach following the DA guidelines putting development before wins. Parents and players may not like it but that’s what the program is about.
2:52 Good point about the PAC coach. It's a point to note the PAC is run by individuals are more of the straight shooter types than most clubs. They would never put over twenty kids on a roster, just so they wouldn't go to another club. That being said, PDA and PF are still and by far, the top promotional clubs to play on, and will continue to be for the next couple years.
Out of those 11 players how many got scholarships? How many got at least 50%? This all about prestige with some and so be it as that it their decision but is that really truly impressive to commmit to (random example so I don’t target) Michigan for $0? If a player is committing to a big program for under 50% that should say a lot to them, mostly prepare to sit.
nope. every school wants a practice squad and you have to plan for injuries and academic ineligible players.
there is a reason some rosters carry about 30+ kids. then, after those kids didn't pan out, they don't get to travel and are then given an indirect force off of the team. then, the find another team that will appreciate them. meanwhile, they lost a year or two of eligibility. happens all the time in the top programs and in all the sports. it's a business and they don't coddle like club.
it's so funny how far some of these teams have come. i remember a pf squad having only 2 wins a few yrs ago. just shows you what getting impact players will do. PAC will be the same.
How many transfers do you think there are per year, 8:01?
Take womens soccer
D1 to other D1
D1 to D3
D2 or 3 or JC up to D1
Give me some numbers
8:43 that's a really good question and one that I've find really important when I sit with my daughter and looking at a school. I have found that most schools report close to an 80% freshmen retention rate, so they are losing 1 out of every five. That seems high to me, but maybe someone can give me some different figures? Not sure what the retention rate is for athletics though and that could totally different from D1, to D2 and D3.
When does the official Jeff Cup flights and schedules get posted?
The PF roster is really bigger than 28. There are a bunch of age eligible playups on the u19 team. The mistake the DA makes is in letting the showcase games count toward the overall record and therefore play off eligibility. The match top teams with top teams. To lose 3 games to give kids more time might take them out of playoff contention and will certainly lower their seeding for same making their chances of success in June less. Blame the USSF for play time issues in Florida.
Guys take a step back and look at the word Showcase how it relates to soccer.
USDA Showcase is for the top players so the NT scouts can get a good look at them (College coaches are a bonus and will come here to see the top players on these teams). USDA is not about college it's about NT teams!
ECNL/NL/NPL/ERL league games are not showcase games even though they might have the word showcase in them. College coaches come here to see the top players (some that have verbals to their schools) on these teams play for the result.
CASL/Disney/Jefferson/Surf are showcase events to showcase all the players on the roster. College coaches come to these events to see the players that don't play much in the other events. Committed players should play little to no minutes in these games.
7:58, 10:23 here - I'm also in shock these teams are in high flights also, but I believe these flights are final. Schedules should be published shortly.
FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK (NJ)
LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED (VA)
UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY 01G PREMIER (GA)
NEW YORK SURF G01 ACADEMY (NYE)
ARLINGTON SA 01G RED (VA)
SJEB RUSH 01G PREMIER WHITE (NJ)
BETHESDA SC STORM 01 (MD)
VIRGINIA LEGACY CCL 01 ELITE (VA)
PDA FUSION (NJ)
10:23 has a good breakdown on what is the leagues are actually suppose to be about and represent. Unfortunately, almost none of the leagues work in that fashion and many parents would be upset if they did so.
So USSF hires Carlos Cordeiro as it's new leader. Even though he has worked under the previous USSF President (Sunil Gulati), and together they claimed their efforts would be to increase not the numbers of kids playing soccer in the US, but to make it affordable to all those that want to.
My question is how can Cordeiro possibly know any of the issues faced when he has never been a coach or an administrator at any level. Even as vice president of USSF he has only dealt with upper echelon international management and neglected any interactions with in state clubs officials of any kind. Yet he constantly says he wants to be a part of a "grass roots" movement to get more kids involved at the lower levels. Says that soccer has been "priced out" of lower income families because of higher level travel clubs, yet spurns any interaction within those same clubs.
I'm sure Mr. Cordeiro will indeed have some new idea's for youth soccer going forward, and by this time next year there will be a new league with at least four capital letters in it. It will be the new gold standard by which all the best players will hope to be in. This will have to happen because after each USSF election, the elected president will have to show the directors that he is making his mark. I do realize that it is a thankless job and it's a job open for criticism from all sides, but I do not see Cordeiro changing the landscape even a little bit.
Thought similar things about the election. No change of guards...sad but not surprising
Guys, I have a bunch of suggestions just like I'm sure you guys have. The problem is we need a path and all Soccer clubs need to play by those rules and that will never happen because for many it's a supplemental income and for people to play for free others will need to play or the coaches make less. Then it becomes a why should I spend time away from my family for coaching kids for scraps? There are two sides to everything.
I just think we play to much of the PC card. USDA is fro NT teams 11 players start 3 subs per game. We all want our kid to be given a shot, but if they are not it's their team coach that decides that for what ever the reason. That's common knowledge. Support your kid for being on the team and support them when they are given their opportunity even if it's 5 minutes. Don't be a cancer. If you are unhappy leave. Same goes for all other teams, if you are unhappy leave it's that simple. Just because you are unhappy doesn't mean everyone else is even if they are agreeing with you or nodding their head, what do you expect them to say? It's okay if a player is not at a certain level, it sucks but it's okay not everyone is equal and top D1 schools are only there for a few players that's a true statement and yes the other schools are good and they are there for other players and yes I will be happy for my kid if she get's a 50%+ ride to the school of her choice which ever it is soccer or no soccer.
There will never be a true move in US soccer to a landscape that will grow the sport beyond what it is today, I actually see it taking another step back with the recent Election of Cordeiro. The only hope is that the DA and ECNL models stay in their lane. But there are still too many blinders on to actually make that happen. Parents want bragging rights and for the predominant funders of US Youth Soccer (Middle to upper income suburban families) those bragging rights end with My kid got a scholarship to “Fill in the Blank College”. Saying my Daughter Plays for the Thorns, or Orlando Pride or Sky Blue FC is really not a cocktail party brag, more like an anecdote. And the path to the USNT is so jacked up girls are on the outside looking in before they even hit highschool. The men’s side is even a bigger joke with DA’s telling the boys that College soccer is crap and we can get you an international contract if you stick with us, using Pulisic as their poster boy. And trying to lure the best inner city athletes with either of those incentives will not happen as long as you are competing with the NBA and NFL. As the parent of a daughter who will be going off to college in the fall I can say that soccer served it’s purpose for her. It taught her to be organized, to be outspoken, a leader and to stand up for herself. She will play in college, which according to Forbes, and the WSJ, will help her in whatever profession she chooses. After her first go around with ODP 5 years ago I realized that we were not with the right club, did not have the right connections, and her path would be to play the game she loved without all the additional noise. Yes soccer in the US is pay to play, but it is also who you know. So while $$ may get you to the club there is still a lot of steps to get you to the right team.
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