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Wednesday, October 11, 2017

U16 Girls Youth Soccer

U16 young women players are not playing for fun, they are playing to win.

Best to step aside, because they are about to barrel through...

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Anonymous said...

802 doesn't matter anyway players are starting to look to play outside of the States anyway look at Alex Morgan and Dunn they are going to start trend of players moving overseas similar to boys and that will ruin the NWSL. The CBA for women's soccer better do something about pay scale or NWSL will go bye-bye.

Anonymous said...

I see that as an upcoming trend re the younger girls looking to play overseas. And, it seems like the international clubs are gearing up to receive US players as well. How funny is that?

Some schools load their rosters with international players instead of giving scholarships/roster spots to US players and now they may not get the chance to get the US kids they keep rejecting.

Anonymous said...

League stays solvent if top players can play half a season

Opens up some NWSL playing time for some others, upstarts and vets alike.

Dont forget - more foreign players are also coming.

Anonymous said...

Again it's about audience at games for NWSL if well known players leave people wont come watch. Go ahead and ask you daughter what foreign players they know and wanna go watch. I totally agree if this trend continues it's going to put a dent on Women's soccer.

Look how much $'s those NWSL teams that lost Morgan and Dunn will take a hit.

Anonymous said...

MWSL 2016 Attendance: http://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2016-nwsl-attendance/
Some are saying are the lowest numbers since the league's induction.

Anonymous said...

12:19,
I agree about Colleges and Foreign players. I believe that NCAA should put a cap across the board on the #of international players that can be on scholarship across all schools/teams/sports. Make US Soccer Great (Again??)

Maybe with Klinsman out as Head USMNT coach we may see opportunities opening up for US players again.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Maybe this is another recruiting change put forth at the upcoming NSCAA meeting and NCAA meeting. US wonders why other countries are catching up. Hmmmm...what can it be? How many international goalkeepers have played or are currently playing at US colleges? And, that is just one position.

Anonymous said...

Some of the problems with attendance at NWSL games may be that they conflict with youth soccer events and MLS as well. I wanted to go to a couple of games and then had tourney conflicts.

Even some W-League games conflicted with NWSL games. The leagues should certainly work together.

This is what is going on with the WNBA, too. But, NBA supports so they do work around things a little better.

Anonymous said...

http://www.excellesports.com/news/crystal-dunn-chelsea-position/

Discusses her decision to play overseas and how the men's and women's Chelsea team work together. MLS are you watching?? Share the venues, share the benefits, share the advertisers, share....build the sport and attendance. It's a win/win.

Anonymous said...

1:03 What are you talking about? The USSF pays WNT players to play for the WNT and they also pay their NWSL salaries. Stop blaming the federation. The problem is nobody goes to watch! The sad thing is you are talking about players not teams. SKY Blue is a NJ team and NJ should support it but they don't it they have the lowest attendance in the league - I think my kid's HS team had more people watching now that is sad!

Colleges are taking more foreign players because they are better quality, just watch our YNT play it's pass the ball to the F and watch them try to dribble around 4 defenders, we all talk the game and then we shut up when our kid's team plays the same way. Robotic we are not developing world class players -we are developing college players.

3:21 THE ECNL complains about players going to NT camps instead of their events and you want them to support the game - they care about their brand and their $$$.


Anonymous said...

Totally agree 4:29, maybe that’s why the Feds decided that we needed a GDA, because college soccer obviously a glorified version of H.S., its quite sad, but this is the 98% of female players. We went to Disney, and I was hoping to see some good play, but the only team that tried to play like the boys was our team, and we were 0-1-2. Bigger, faster, and predictable, the holy grail of college soccer.

Anonymous said...

4:29 - 3:21 here. I support the players. The NWSL and W-League players are worth seeing. I don't go to watch just the NT players. Some become NT players through NWSL/W-League, etc. It is great to see a budding talent get better and better through their play on these teams.

And, my kids can name some of the international players that participate in NWSL. I was saddened to see the never give up talent of Kim Little leave Reign (saw her in play locally and in Seattle).

These girls (NWSL/W-League, etc.) play because they love the game and their effort certainly shows it. THAT is what I am supporting.

Anonymous said...

Oh and I agree with you, the kids should not have had to make a choice between NT and nationals in ECNL. That was the shot across the bow that their cushy relationship (USSF and ECNL) had come to an immediate end.

Anonymous said...

Whitney Engen is a good example, 6:11

And there are several this year out of NWSL (with no NT experience)

Anonymous said...

I was an original SOB (Sons Of Ben) and worked with the group that encouraged the MLS to add a team in Philly. When my daughter got involved in soccer and the original Philly Independence started up I asked the question why they were not somehow tied to the Philly Union. The response was that there is not enough interest in the Women's side and the men's side has such a small margin for profitability that aligning would jeoprodize the men's team. The women also wanted to stand on their own (I guess that may be why they chose the name they did ). I think the isuue is sustainable vs profitable. The MLS turns a profit, the WPSL is barely sustainable. The target depth for a female youth soccer player is college and possibly a shot at the national team but the economics of maybe 30 spots for 1M players??

Anonymous said...

8:20 what's up brother - we also loved the cheese-stakes and were sad when they folded. We were there for almost every home game at weidner, we did our part to support the game by buying jerseys - but when you have only a few doing this we have what we have. The W-League folded, the WPSL is joke, USWA is not at the same level. I'm reading at least half the MLS teams will have a NWSL team this will allow them to have an academy and be part of the cash cow of girls youth soccer,

6:11 I'm with you we support the players, we support MLS and NWSL (even though SKY Blue was the enemy). It's sad that they can't even draw 2k per game, all you read about on these boards is how strong NJ soccer is blah blah blah and yet SKY Blue struggles. I agree with 8:20 we look at the game differently. I see kids supporting barca, madrid and pick your EPL team but yet they don't support what is ours. I love the game and so does my kid and we support MLS and NWSL because this is ours.

Rank Team Average
1 Portland Thorns FC 16,945
2 Orlando Pride 8,933
3 Houston Dash 5,701
4 Seattle Reign FC 4,588
5 Western NY Flash 3,868
6 Washington Spirit 3,782
7 Boston Breakers 3,472
8 FC Kansas City 3,162
9 Chicago Red Stars 2,926
10 Sky Blue FC 1,982
TOTALS 5,585

Anonymous said...

10 Step plan for Soccer Success in SE PA
1 – Be well off
2- Attend private school or live in one of the following school districts
CONESTOGA
PENNSBURY
PENNRIDGE
CENTRAL BUCKS SOUTH
QUAKERTOWN
NESHAMINY
STRATH HAVEN
SPRING-FORD
DOWNINGTOWN WEST
WEST CHESTER HENDERSTON
DOWNINGTOWN EAST
3- Play for one of the following clubs
Penn Fusion
PA Classics
Continental
YMS
FC Bucks
PDA
4- Donate to the Club (time and Money)
5- Have talent
6-ODP by 12 (preferably on a team coached by one of your Club’s coaches)
7- When offered a spot on a higher level team take it (need to be on ECNL/DA by u15)
8- Get to a regional Camp
9- Attend every extra training offered by your DOC
10- Play a secondary sport

Anonymous said...

Our 10 steps.

1. Start playing rec soccer.
2. Enroll in footskills (extra training)
3. Classic travel (local town teams)
4. Tryout for ODP
5. Premier club (regional/national travel)
6. Make mini vacations out of every road game/tournament
7. Play High School soccer
8. Attend some school clinics (on her list)
9. High School Graduation
10. Attend as many college games as I can

Anonymous said...

12:41

Are you at step 10 yet?

Anonymous said...

12:41 - are you attending the games to watch your child or just attending? Also, why isn't having talent a step in your process, too? And, don't they all start out on rec leagues? And, are you implying that kids on some of the Club teams you noted from SE PA are paying more than the club fees for their spots?

Sounds like soccer envy going on?

Anonymous said...

In Jersey its easier,

Step 1-9: Start and finish @ PDA

Step 10: Get partial soccer scholarship at Rutgers!

DONE!



Anonymous said...

1:15
Prettu much encompasses 2-9 :)
There is a lot of Alignment with PDA and Rutgers. (Mentioned PDA as one of the clubs to be at as well!)

Oh and there is some fate involved.

Anonymous said...

8:20 - MLS is looking at the same; profitability vs. sustainability. That is business. Some MLS markets are bigger and better supported than others, too.

Soccer in the US is still growing as far as professional sports. Isn't it now the #1 sport in the world? There are more boys that play than professional or NT spots, too (internationally and domestically). That is the sport for both genders.

Do you think the numbers turned out to the Linc over the summer to see just the US MNT or Messi and crew as well?

I am optimistic that the numbers in MLS, USMNT, NASL/USL & USWNT, NWSL and WPSL all improve in the upcoming years. Go US Soccer!

Anonymous said...

1:35 - alignment? Nicely put. Surely you know that the DOC of PDA is the Head Coach at Rutgers?

Anonymous said...

1:43
Yes I am aware. Just like the other ECNL teams (FC Bucks, PF, and CFC) all have college coaches as assistants or head coaches of the girls u15 and up. The one factor I have seen as an ECNL parent is that the good players with no additional contacts and average income get weeded out a bit. As CFC is nearer to the city there are some really good players that stay on regardless of their socio-economic status. Youth soccer to college player is a marathon and not for the weak hearted or small pockets.

Anonymous said...

12:49 - I am at step 8 - very proud of my little lady.

1:09 - to watch of course and answer questions or provide feedback if she has any. My kid played rec ball U6-U9, she asked to play travel - so we moved her up one level (this was after training on the side). It didn't matter that she stood out because of the extra training -she had to ask to move up - her game her life pal. I didn't mention any teams. Soccer envy? Think what you want.

1;15 Sounds easy enough- PDA has what 4 teams? So that's 80 kids in each age group. That explains the low turn out for SKy Blue games.

1:40 MLS is expanding to 30 teams and they could do even more if they were smart and created an MLS2 with pro/rel almost every club is in the green now and the franchise fee is well over 100 million. I'm with you 100% GO US SOCCER. PS. NASL is in trouble, MLS should take it over and rebrand to MLS2. Go to 30 teams - two 15 team conferences - 28 conference games. Take the top 8 teams from each conference to play some type of a post season single elimination or world cup format and relegated the bottom 3 teams in each conference every year. Also forceeach team to have a NWSL first team to share stadiums.

1:58 I agree - big part of the problem and because there is SO MUCH $$$$ in it nothing will ever change.

Anonymous said...

1:58 - You don't care much for facts, do you.

Anonymous said...

New Steps when GDA kicks off.

Step 1 U8-U11: Play Travel (EDP, NYSCL League)
Step 2 U12-U14: Move DA Club (Participate in top league, state cups, big tourney's, etc)
Step 3 U15-U18: Play DA team (Get Scouted and Recruited by Freshman/Sophomore years)
Step 4 Play College: (On Full Ride)
Step 5 Play Professionally(WPSL) for 25k or find a job making 40k and become trainer at a local club for extra cash.

Great 15 year plan I think. I'm laughing really am!

Anonymous said...

1:58 - wow are you jaded. My kids plays on one of those clubs you listed and we have had a completely different experience. We are not well off, either. We are hard working, like my kid.

Anonymous said...

1:58 - college coaches are involved in most ECNL clubs.. I am not sure how many are head coaches at top tier soccer colleges and DOC's through the League. Would be interesting to find out. Anyone know?

Anonymous said...

3:31 - Step 6: Play internationally and/or coach domestically or internationally (club level, college or academy)

Anonymous said...

Players in the NWSL that are not allocated by the United States and Canadian federations
for the six-month season get paid:

2016 $7,200 to $39,700
2015 $6,842 to $37,800.
2013 $6,000 to $30,000.


or for 2016

low end (bench players) = $1,200 per month or $300 per week
high end (starters) = $6,617 per month or $1654 per week

Remember these are the non allocated players.
So how does one expect Sky Blue to pay more if they don'teven get over 2K per game

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Need to up the numbers for Sky Blue. New location needed. Getting to Rutgers in the summer traffic is a nightmare.

Anonymous said...

And, more sponsors/advertisers needed. It's the t.v. time w/sponsors that supports the other professional sports. It was great to see some of the teams utilizing halftime on U-tube for advertising.

NBA is supporting WNBA even when numbers are not up in some markets.

Anonymous said...

833 What TV time sponsors would invest $'s into a game that runs 90's minutes with literally no stoppage times except half time. Come on look at NFL football(1hr) actual play time but 3.5 hours to televise or Basketball(48 min) actual game time but 2 hours of TV time. Face it MLS in America does not get major TV time sponsors because of this you think the women's league would. TV Sponsorship is a huge business but they are smart of enough where to invest for the return Super Bowl Commercials for example.

Anonymous said...

Like the news networks have, a live run underneath the game as it's being played. And, before game, half time, stoppage time (before overtime), and at end of game before interviews; in between games.

There are sponsors during the WC games. Use the same format (in particular since there may be a few games being broadcast on the same channel; like football). Sponsors in the live footage of the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. didn't just get where it is now without hiccups and tests runs.

"Can't" means "won't." I say "let's see how!"

Anonymous said...

I am not saying that they get superbowl commercial $$$, yet. I am saying try it. The superbowl only became nearly a holiday event in the last 20 years. It evolved into the pomp and circumstance it is today. Half time was extended for the performances for instance.

Soccer like football is a one game win and in sport. When the WC is going on, large television screens pop up at various venues. It could happen.

Anonymous said...

Dudes it doesn't matter - Red Bulls avg 20K and Sky Blue not even 2k sticking to NJ. That is your problem. When you have boys saying they want to go to a Sky Blue game then maybe instead we have dads taking their girls to a red bulls game the women get no love and that is a fact and why it will never grow. There I said it.

Anonymous said...

Red Bulls and Sky Blue should be packaged together as a NJ thing not NY Red Bulls or PDA Sky Blue a"NJ" thing. NJ Strong right? much easier to back.

Tickets start at $30 for Red Bull games or $20 if you come early for the NWSL game and you get a double header.

Anonymous said...

7:08 - that is correct. MLS should be working with/aligning with NWSL (like NBA and WNBA). Same arena; and same day if possible.

And, 7:00, I agree that is what is going on currently. Gotta figure out a way so all teams benefit, like the alignment of the women's teams with MLS teams.

It's a win/win for the sport and for soccer in the US.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 9:04, MLS is talking about having half the teams with a NWSL team.
My perfect USA soccer world.

MLS - tier 1 - 32 teams (2 conferences of 16, each team plays 30 games vs conference - top 4 teams advance to post season and play 6 games vs other conference teams, then we seed teams and play single elimination)

NASL - rebrand as MLS2 with 32 teams and follow same structure as MLS. Then use Pro/Rel between MLS and MLS2 with some type of profit sharing plan that will allow teams to get back their expansion fees, once all teams get back expansion fees the money goes to the league to do as they wish.

USL - remains D3 - developmental league for all MLS teams (64)

NWSL - teams rebrand as MLS women teams and follow the same structure.


Youth Soccer
GDA - top tier for USSF and Colleges to pick players.

Rebrand ECNL as a US CLub and USYS league. Still a club league but allow champions from NPL and USYS Regional league leagues to play the following year.

EDP, CCL, NEP and other regional leagues continue giving teams a pathway to develop players for them to either move up the ladder with their team or individually.

I believe this will make us a soccer nation that develops world class players as we open the door for so many more players to play meaningful games to show what they have.

It much easier to support the NJ Red Bulls or NJ Sky Blue than the NY Red Bulls or Sky Blue PDA -you remove the I hate PDA element even though it's the same staff. people can be funny. I said it we go to Sky Blue games but will always be a CheeseSteak at heart - I hope the Union can bring back the Independence. However, Tasha Kai makes it so much easier.

Anonymous said...

Agree with your perfect soccer world. Hope it happens. Not sure ECNL will ever rebrand itself though. But, I hope it allows for true chamionships with all the leagues and their top tier teams competing.

Looking forward to an Independence comeback in the Philly area. Fingers crossed!

Anonymous said...

Do you guys really think the new DA will be that strong?
Half of the strongest players and their families on our ecnl team are 50/50.


Anonymous said...

NJ Red Bull?

Dude - I am not sure you understand business too well.

Anonymous said...

4:53 - we are not talking moving the Jets from Shea and they keep NY in their name or the Giants before them.

We are talking taking a team that plays in their own Harrision NJ statdium NJ.
I think they increase their fan base by r-ebranding to NJ they could open up selling jerseys to central and southern jersey soccer fans. Not sure about you but I don't know any NY red Bull fans - all my buds (Brooklyn/Queens) support either NYFC or the Cosmos (D2).

Devils vs Rangers is a nice sell NJ vs NY - Rangers vs Islanders that's a Long island vs the City thing. Red Bulls vs NYFC has nothing to do with NY.

Sorry I don't buy into calling the team NY Red Bulls will generate more money than NJ Red Bulls. Just not sold on that.

Anonymous said...

I feel the same way 3:50. It's 50/50 with our club as well.

Anonymous said...

From what I am seeing (reading), if you are not already on the inside of a club that will be GDA, then you will have a hard time breaking in. So, even setting the 50/50 issue aside, will the GDA really have the best players, or just the best connected? Unless there is some significant outside oversight of the selection process, GDA just becomes another rebranding. Then there is always the question of what happens to the outstanding soccer player from a place like State College, where there is no GDA, ECNL, etc. Based on the commentary on this blog, that player gets passed over because of the lack of opportunity/access.

Anonymous said...

What is the closest DA to State College?

Anonymous said...

I believe the perfect soccer world exists up to college for girls, Now hear me out. There are more then enough players to fill college rosters. The path to D1 - ECNL
D2 - NPL/EDP/USYS
D3 - Those players who want to play and have shown succeess at the PAGs/NPL/EDP level
THe Girls DA will be a conduit for existing clubs players with some outside girls getting an opportunity. What may happen is current ECNL/Pre ECNL teams will most likely promote their players to DA, new girls showing up at tryouts will be aligned with ECNL/NPL with younger ones being told "Now that you are in our program you will have the chance to move to DA". It will be similar to the shopping around parents did with the age change and another reset, Then knowing US soccer as more of creating a revenue stream then a competitive soccer program will reset with something else in 4 years.

Anonymous said...

A State College player could be a discovery player at an GDA (PA Classics) or ECNL discovery player for PF or CFC.
They are allowed to play in maybe 6-events.

Anonymous said...

Go back to sleep, 8:22

Check in with us later.

Anonymous said...

8:25
Why should I go back to sleep.


I think there are paths for current girls to play college if they want to. I also think the system is rigged and based on a fiscal proposal rather then a develoopment one. Clubs that are both DA and ECNL will continue to sell their product to families promising D1 scholarships and NT stardom. In this area you may see 3-5 player ever make it as far as possible u17, u20 International games. Look at the rosters of current NT teams, look at the coaches and look at the connections. Some of it is also based on areas where outdoor soccer can be played year round.

Most new name call-ups are also direct calls from coaches to Ellis or her assistants from regional coaches with clout. That network is strong and unless you are on the inside taking your daughter blind to a tryout at a new GDA may get her local and some college exposure but is a long way from ever seing regional or national camp experience.

Anonymous said...

Have you ever been PROMISED D1 and/or NT?

Anonymous said...

9:35 AM
Maybe PROMISED is a strong word, Are you an ECNL coach/DOC/Marketing Rep???
I like how people try to defend their decision when they are most likely questioning it themselves. Numbers are numbers and facts are facts. If your daughter is still on and ECNL team in her senior year of high school and does not have a verbal commitment with her selected college you really need to start thinking about the "promises" you were made by your club/coach/DOC. Doesn't have to be D1 but your daughter should know what her options are by January 1 2017 if she is graduating this spring.

1 East Coast ECNL Player on the U20 Roster as of 12/3/16
1 East Coast ECNL Player on the U18 Roster as of 12/17/16 (Both PDA)
Interesting.........

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have any feedback from the ID camp at Penn State this past weekend?

Anonymous said...

1:10 PM
Was your daughter an invite or unsolicited walk on? What grad year. My understanding is they are looking at the 2017s and will communicate directly with those that they have an interest in. I don't think evals were promised across the board. Underclass may recieve follow-up if they have been on the radar (2018s) and younger may just receive the email blast for camps.

Anonymous said...

We rocked that camp and are considering committing

Daughter is a 2022. May choose Duke or Idaho State or Stony Brook instead but commit will be early, surely. That is what looks best.

Anonymous said...

HaHa 1:27 Penn State is not looking at 2017's anymore unless that player is above and beyond the 6-7 players already ready to sign their NLI. They may also be done 2018 as well and as 2019. 10-12 verbally committed already for 2018/2019. They are looking at 2020's now have one of the top players in the country verbally committed graduating 2020. So please refrain to comment if you did not do the research and observed and saw the camp yourself.

Anonymous said...

Jefferson Cup acceptances are out.

Anonymous said...

That can't be, my daughter is a top 2020 and she has not committed to PSU, she is having trouble with Algebra right now.

Anonymous said...

Woohoo, we got into Jeff Cup, Waffle House here we come!!

Anonymous said...

12:10 am - closest GDA's from State College, PA, area are PA Classics and PF. PF has some kids that travel to it from State College already that play ECNL.

Anonymous said...

Also, don't feed the troll. He/she will move on.

Anonymous said...

4:42 - they may be looking if someone decommitted or isn't going to play freshman year. I heard that is happening for some 2017 spots on a few squads.

Anonymous said...

Keep trolling people....no way PSU is looking at anything but 2020 and younger, maybe 2019
Sorry your little Mia who "rocked the camp" won't make it

Anonymous said...

https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=53446&Group=Girls_15

Anonymous said...

2h,15m one way State College to PAC; 3h one way State College to PF; pretty taxing on both parent and student-athlete to do four days a week.

Anonymous said...

There are large parts of the country where there are no ECNL clubs. These areas produce excellent soccer players who have no trouble finding good teams and getting into college. There will be large geographic areas without access to DA. Players in those areas will no doubt be at a big disadvantage getting onto National teams, but they will still find elite teams to play on and getting college scholarships will not be difficult.

Anonymous said...

Well if you and your daughter was a true fan of women's soccer and are paying attention to the upcoming NWSL draft on Jan. 12th. You can see many of those college players did not come from a GDA/ECNL club. Here is the link to the eligible players and what college and youth club they played for. So yes there is a path to college soccer and possible pro without GDA/ECNL.

http://nwslsoccer.com/nwsl-reveals-preliminary-list-of-eligible-players-for-2017-draft

Anonymous said...

Looks like PDA Storm is getting a chance to play with the big girls at Jeff Cup. Should be very interesting. Championship Group B will come down again to Pipeline and SJEB. PA Classics will run group A. I think Classics has a shot to win it all.

Anonymous said...

Thanks PA Classics Mom, keep drinking lady!

Anonymous said...

I'm a father of a D1 prospect thank you very much!

Anonymous said...

Everyone on here are have prospects of D1 player and national type player I assume. Either way glad Jeff didn't follow CASL and group all the ECNL teams together hopefully it will show who the true region 1 teams are.

Anonymous said...

Well the players chosen for U16 GNT all 2020/2021 grads have been already been chosen already. Two PDA players and one World Class player representing NJ.

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2017/01/09/18/54/20170109-u16gnt-kicks-off-2017-with-training-camp-in-san-diego-roster-release

Anonymous said...

Any player whose parent wrote a check could attend PSU clinic

Anonymous said...

9:59 - Good players. Should be a great draft.

Not trying to burst any bubbles here, but you realize that these gals were part of the infancy of ECNL; before it became what it is today. There are many stories on the impact of ECNL on the current college atmosphere.

Don't give up the dream where ever you play, but just be fully informed.

Anonymous said...

9:59 - I would not say many didn't come from ECNL. Most of those clubs listed are ECNL (they just don't have the league/ECNL after their names like some do). But do agree with recent blogger about not letting anywhere you play stop you from a dream.

Anonymous said...

250 Agreed anyone that paid for PSU clinic can attend 8th graders as well. I know there were some that went for free!

Anonymous said...

Congrats to PDA u16 NTC players .
Looks like no one from a Pa. team could make the cut .
Not surprised .

Anonymous said...

Inertia is a wonderful thing.

Anonymous said...

There are many states not represented in this group. Why are you noting just PA? Apparently, "These players are all age-eligible for the 2018 U-17 Women’s World Cup, which has an age cut-off of players born on or after January 1, 2001," Good luck to them. Go Team USA.

Anonymous said...

Message to the mature parents out there...we are now parents of 2002 girls, stop trying to make your daughter's team out to be the best by destroying others, get a life.
Be a parent, help your daughter do her best to help her succeed in life.
Lots of bullies and trolls around here, still stuck in the U12 years, living vicariously through their kids because they missed out on opportunities when they were young.
Oh...and Obama is done and Trump won, get over it!

Anonymous said...

haha, agreed!
How about making this a forum to help guide some of the parents that are new to the showcase experience? Of course, try o skip the part where you mention your daughter is the best and all P5 colleges are signing her up

Anonymous said...

I have an appropriate Parental Guide this forum:

A) Pennsylvania soccer sucks
B) New Jersey Soccer sucks
C) See A) and B) for further details.

Anonymous said...

You may want to learn proper English and sentence structuring if you're going to be a dick. Sorry you didn't get your GED

Anonymous said...

8:48 I assume your a NY guy please signature your comments "NY Guy" so we all know your comments are not meaningful at all. If NJ soccer is bad how come they have 3 girls representing the U16 WNT. Along with many former NJ players that have played on the NT.

Anonymous said...

Good idea
Plus if he signs "NY guy", he doesn't need to sign "douche"

Anonymous said...

Yo 12:40 NY is (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx) - they can be a LI guy for long island or SI guy for Staten island or Upstate NY guy for everyone else. Of course then PA can sign as Sticks guy and NJ can sign as bridge and tunnel guy since we all know NY is the place to be just ask the Red Bulls they have nothing to do with NY but say they are from NY.

Anonymous said...

I thought that was pretty funny, you guys need to lighten-up, this is an anonymous blog, it could if been Donald J., and you would never know. Back to the bloggers comment, if the object was too yank-your-chains, I think he/she did a great job. We all know that PA/NJ does not suck, its average at best.

-Your Mother

Anonymous said...

haha
the donald tweets
stop retiring in PA then you NJ and NY douches :)

Anonymous said...

Now, now children.... Let Jefferson Cup decide who sucks and who does not. NY, MD, PA, and NJ are all represented in the Championship Bracket.. Minus MD, they are all represented in the Elite Orange bracket as well. Bragging rights should be earned! If you get smoked at a tourney then take your verbal beating and move on. Its hysterical to read though. To guess who will win the Championship brackets is a huge toss up.. It almost could be each one of those teams.

Anonymous said...

The only time I would retire in PA is when I get a flat-tire, heard labor is cheaper.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to NYSC on getting the DA - as well as the Cedar Stars!

Anonymous said...

It's boys - but yes, congratulations are in order. Caertainlys eems as if everything is in place for a run at a girls GDA in time.

Anonymous said...

In Order? No. Its a freaking mess...trust me, I know.

Anonymous said...

Oh, well, screw you then.

Might learn how to take a compliment.

Anonymous said...

NYSC has not done anything on the girls side to earn a compliment, nothing. They continue to lose their best players year after year because they don't have an ECNL franchise. The GDA was their last, best hope, to retain some quality players, but it turns-out it was just a fantasy.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to the guy who used to post here whose kid got drafted today. I am sure you are very proud!

Anonymous said...

@2:40, what's wrong with you, why you telling the NYSC guy to get screwed?? Seems like he is unhappy, no need to he so rude!

Anonymous said...

Any updates on the almighty GDA? im hearing they may delay another year. Makes sense, no news and very little happening.

Anonymous said...

I agree, nothing being discussed re GDA. Maybe there will be more discussion at the convention re the status.

Haven't some teams had id camps already like Wash Spirit who has two teams (VA and MD)? Why would they hold these if not going forward? And, these are NWSL linked so you would think they have good intel re what is going on. #Mushroom treatment - kept in the dark

Anonymous said...

Screw me, is that the extent of your brain-power? Even though the club has taken many hits these past 12 months, I am more than happy with my little tiger’s progression. She has shown very well at our tournaments, and can compete with any girl, her own age, in this country. She is the mean machine.

Anonymous said...

President's Day Futsal U9-U14, HS, Adult Divisions. $175 one day event.
Convenient to NY/NJ, Philly, MD.

http://www.playbisc.com/soccer/futsal

Anonymous said...

Hey 1/10 @ 9:59 - ECNL tweeted -
Congrats to all of the #ECNLalums drafted tonight in the 2017 @NWSL Draft!
30 of 40 players are former #ECNLers

And, that is ECNL in its infancy, still. I guess this puts that debate to bed.

Anonymous said...

The post will say in 8 years: "congrats to the all the DA alumni that were drafted in the 2025 draft. 30 of the 40 are former DA'ers. "

Anonymous said...

The league won't be around in 8 years. The GDA will consume thousands of lives for a very select few to make the Natl team, maybe two on average per age year have a chance. Stick with npl and ecnl, get into a better college and enjoy high school, other sports and the rest of your families short time with kids. The over the top bunch can buy into the DA crap and then look back and regret their decisions.

Anonymous said...

Amen...

Anonymous said...

2:01 - Study cause and effect (or chickens and eggs) more closely. Does ECNL have more elite players because it is a center of aggregation (and perhaps aggravation) that attracts those players who would be elite anyhow wherever they play, or is it a place that identifies raw talent at an early age and develops that talent over the course of many years. Take a look at PF U15. If not for the uniforms, you might think you were watching last year's PL U14 team. ECNL players are expendable, so when a better prospect comes knocking, someone is shown the door. Of course, over time, this weeding process results in only the top players being left in the league. Essentially, ECNL is huge ID process, but training and development may be no different than anywhere else.

Anonymous said...

I agree and that's what I've been saying for years now. My kid does not play on an ECNL team (could she, I guess that depends on the coach, but an hour plus one way is not worth it to me when she has quality training at her club).

The top of the pyramid (currently ECNL to be replaced by GDA) is where all the kids that have NT dreams will go and that's what you want as a soccer nation. One league with all the top talent. This top of the pyramid league is to take these players to their next level some are more advanced so the next level will vary. Not only will the top of the pyramid be fore NT players but you will also have the top soccer colleges looking to fill their rosters (not the only place they look,but it will be the 1st place they look).

Development means different things to us when it comes to a club. I believe the player needs to work on individual skills on their own and the club needs to work on vision and tactical work (soccer IQ) and not waste time with individual training.

Just my 2 cents

PS. Does the ECNL also take the blame for the success of our younger NTs teams? If you watched any of those games we are in trouble as a soccer nation!

Anonymous said...

Nah - credit the other nations.

It will be cyclical. I like it better than when we just dominated. Competition is better and we will always be competitive.

Anonymous said...

Any updates from the PDA DOC about GDA?

Anonymous said...

Why is the 2002 Match Fit team ranked lower than their 2003 team on YSR? Are they really that bad?

Anonymous said...

Explaining the math is getting old. Theoretically you need a sample of 10 events minimum to have a ranking. Match fit 02s have only played one weekend so any rankkng you are viewing is not accurate. PDA storm as well. You should have early reads by mid april for those teams.

Anonymous said...

Awesome, so they'll be having tryouts for next year before anyone knows if they're good or not. Makes sense.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Go to the ECNL standings to get some insight for games played. While it may not have the non-ECNL events, it will show how they match up against other ECNL clubs, if that helps. And, I guess look at their Got Soccer record if they attended any events that are recorded on those pages. With new birth year, it's all still being worked out.

Anonymous said...

I recommend actually attending games of the clubs you may wish to try out for.

It doesnt always work with your own schedule and is some extra work but can be eye opening

Anonymous said...

7:32 - Good advice from a truly clinical or business like perspective. However, from the social perspective of a teenager, attending someone else's youth soccer game is sort of "creepy". Probably shouldn't be, but the girls don't necessarily see things the way the adults do.

Anonymous said...

9:11 I agree and this is the problem. If the kid asks the parent to move then you move. The parent taking the kid and trying to sell the kid on a move - well that's not what I would do.

I believe the ECNL was the place to be for years, but my kid doesn't want to move. She has a good coach and good training, so end of story. If she doesn't want it why should I?

Anonymous said...

9:11 - soccer is a huge expense. It's not just a pair of cleats and a ball anymore. So, you check it out.

What if your child doesn't like the coaches' demeanor and playing style? What if you don't? You are the consumer and should do your homework which may mean going to a game or two. Nothing says to stay the entire game, but see how the team clicks, the coaching, the fields and facilities; all of it.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, exactly

I meant the parent going to check out the potential of a club, not the player

Anonymous said...

Keep in mind with ecnl. What if you live in central/South jersey. PDA or MF is it. so you drive 2-4 hours round trip for ecnl? that is majority of reason most dont join. it is similar in pricing I hear? But I cannot subject my kid's to that type of drive. It is actually insane. But obviously if 30 out of 40 is ecnl.

Anonymous said...

@4:39 I guess your a Newbie. PDA is not 2-4 hours round trip from major hotspot in SJ. There is also PDA south branch that has affiliation with PDA's Main ECNL/GDA teams. SJ players also flock over to PA for ECNL/GDA at Penn Fusion as well.

Signed: GDA-Mom!

Anonymous said...

Agreed. btw - Is your child on a GDA already? Or do you just support it?

Anonymous said...

The sample of 3 games for MF 2002 may be accurate - they lost to a couple of teams that played 10 games that were ranked at ~35. Since the scores didnt change from game to game - that ranking will stick for the few months before they even hold tryouts.

The ranking of same age group teams in Cali South shows MF 2002 would not even make the top 20. That will also show you the difference between the DA and ECNL in the future.

Anonymous said...

1014. Thats just silly. You have no understanding of how the math works. Yes 30% of the first ten games is registered but 70% is not and as you get to games 11-12-13 thise first three games lose weighting as the most recent ten games are more heavily weighted. But to simplify if they averaged 35 for first 3 games and 37 for next 7 they would have a 36.4 score.

But in all honesty this system was truly powerful with 30-40 games to compute a score.

The other flaw is the big scores. If you beat a mediocre team 34~10-0 it gives you a 44 score for that game. So the sensitivity by using a sample of only 10 games will create issues. Over 40 games those should be smoothed out.

And if you are using these to gauge tryouts you really dont get it.

Ysr is great to gauge the strength of team you are playing. Good for tournament organizers. But to choise your club based on that. Again silly.

Anonymous said...

10:14 That's a lame analysis for as MF 2002 lost players and are still rebuilding it will take time for the newer players to build chemistry. 10 games is still not enough to gauge rankings as well in my opinion a full season is more adequate. We will all see where everyone stands come summer. They may not be as strong a GDA squad next year but will still compete in the ECNL and will still move girls along to college.

Also you can't even compare DA to ECNL look at the boys side. DA clubs like Red Bulls are not even visibly ranked on GS or YSR. They are in there own world that cannot compare to any outside team. Same will occur on the girls DA side we will not be able to compare any of the GDA squads to outside teams.

Signed: GDA-Mom!

Anonymous said...

Play 3 games, excellent plan to build chemistry with the new players.

Anonymous said...

3 games?? Teams are lucky if they can gel within 10 games. Has anyone noticed that the better the players the harder it is to gel? Elite players who come together on average come from teams where they were the star. Stars don't share very well. This is where the coach comes in, knocks all the diva garbage away and rebuilds.

Anonymous said...

@5:18. pda south, Ajax is not ecnl. The only two ecnl teams in NJ is PDA Storm and MF - right? That is up in north jersey. I am not sure what you mean? To play ecnl in NJ you have to go to one of those? Unless sure, you want to go to PA or Long Island.

Anonymous said...

10:26

MF may be able to compete in ECNL if other ECNL teams take away 1/2 their squads and more them to DA teams? Analysis is not lame, its just weird how MF cant retain talent any more, and are struggling against EDP teams.

10:19 Big scores are not an issue - its variance and consistency in team play. if a team is constantly beating other teams by a high margin - they will continue to do so and their rankings will adjust based on level of competition. if a team narrowly loses consistently to similarly ranked teams - their will continue to drop. and you are correct - latest results - bigger weight.

Anonymous said...

7:08 I agree and they the rankings are dynamic also - As the teams you played play more games and become stronger or not their scores will also adjust the score of the teams they played previously. So if MF score increases that will also increase the score of the teams they played or decrease some scores.

Anonymous said...

Enough with MF bashing can we just move on from them.

Anonymous said...

Initial EDP flights are out -- let the bashing begin.

https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?eventid=57134

Anonymous said...

I'll be the first to bash what's the point of creating 4 brackets of division 1 play among 4 states (NY,NJ,PA,MD). At this age worrying about placing teams that play a short distance from each should not matter. No way 31 teams in Division 1 brackets should be there it's a injustice for the league. Many games will be a waste of parents weekend, didn't U.S. advocate more training with more meaningful games.

Anonymous said...

I agree 12:29 - EDP should have a top of the Pyramid.

D1 NPL (NPL Schedule)
D1 Non-NPL (10 teams 9 games)
Championship top 2 form NPL and Non-NPL

D2 10 Teams (top 4 teams replace bottom 4 from D1 Non-NPL)

D3 and lower Regional Divisions - the 4 regional winners replace D2 bottom 4
more pro/rel with lower flights.

Anonymous said...

Wow dude you’re organized, can you come a fix-up my closet?

Anonymous said...

I know people on here were talking about the Penn State Clinic a few weeks ago is anyone going to Rutgers's Clinics?

Anonymous said...

All college clinics are parent-scams, its just extra revenue for the coach and his staff.

Anonymous said...

You feel there is never a benefit to college ID clinics? I would assume any standouts are noted by the coaches.

Anonymous said...

I love how the DA is talking about this great new platform that will change the way coaches and clubs have to think, and it's not about winning. When will it be important to win?

Anonymous said...

For the players it still will be

Anonymous said...

If a club now has GDA and the coaches are all the same, what has really changed? USSF is only an influence
Club coaches were good or bad or in between already

Anonymous said...

Just my .02 (from a U17 Parent) on College ID clinics/Camps

In my opinion they do work. My daughter attended a few camps/clinics between her freshman and sophomore year. Based on the club team we also received our share of TDS/East Coast Elite, and College specific invites. My caution is you do need to weed through the marketing emails to get to the real invites. and you also need to be able to discern a true follow-up from the coach and a mass follow-up. My daughter emailed coaches prior to showcase events and ID camp invites from those schools when received were responded to by her. Of the camps/clinics she has attended she has received emails (both direct from coaches and "marketing") as well as phone calls. Based on NCAA rules there is a fine line regarding communication but I can tell you at this point in her Junior year if not for the clinics she would most likely be a bit behind in her recruiting cycle and decision making process. Granted she is not looking at Duke and USC but her target schools' coaches are engaged and communicating with her. Without attending their clinics I do not believe that would be the case.


Anonymous said...

Agree with 9:35, I'm a parent of both 2002 and 1999
Repetition is also key when the communication has been established
In one instance, she filled out a college application y coach's request(as a beginning sophomore), which opened the door for some additional communication that couldn't have occurred without this...so we're told at least.
Oh and believe me...NCAA rules are "fluid" for some schools :)

Anonymous said...

RE: clinics at $150 and up fore 2 hours!!!! ie Rutgers
Unless your daughter is a prodigy, this is just a money grab for the soccer coach!!!

Anonymous said...

935 thanks for the insight can you keep us updated on your U17. Also did she play ECNL/Non-ECNL?

Anonymous said...

I agree. We are currently weeding through ID clinic's and Rutgers is 2 hours @ $150. That is insane! She will not be attending that one needless to say.

Anonymous said...

This is wise if you are not specifically targeting Rutgers as her destination

Anonymous said...

9:35 here,

She was ECNL and non-ECNL, if you want to talk money grab... To put in perspective U16 ECNL will prepare your daughter for the college experience with the travel and in-team competitiveness. The training for our club is a bit limited I think do to the age and the recruiting this year, training has become more of an opportunity for coaches to game plan. It also works as "King of the Hill" to identify starters and subs, very little training as I believe the coaches feel individual skills are set. There is also a slight undercurrent of team unity and individualism. The girls want to win games, but the core players will not "help" the others along. It is an interesting dichotomy.

10:12
Either your child attended a clinic and you did not see the value (read - no coaches contact post clinic) or you were looking for something else. The Rutgers clinic is a multi opportunity experience, one that offers your daughter the chance to train with a college staff, with girls who believe they can compete at a college level, and to be seen in a controlled setting. Depending on her age she may be in too early, or depending on her skill be in over her head. These are all good things to find out. If she was too young or over her head you can now either find her range or readjust expectations. There are some schools that will not even look at a player who has not come through the clinic (plus it opens up communications that NCAA rules may prevent otherwise). To say there is no value is a misrepresentation of the process.

Anonymous said...

PDA/Sky Blue GDA Tryouts Announced

Date & time
Friday Feb 10th 8-9.30pm (1999/00)
Friday Feb 17th 8-9.30pm (2001/02)
Friday Mar 3rd 6.30-9.30pm (call back)
Feb 10th & 17th sessions will be indoors

Anonymous said...

Has there been any commitment on how GDA will be funded?

Anonymous said...

1221 did you not read each DA conference has been awarded a certain amount of Scholar $ to use by teams how those GDA teams choose to handle it we will see. I doubt they will spread it equally, more like specific players will get full or partial club tuition paid the rest will pay. There will most likely younger team contribute as well into GDA teams.

So NO it will not be free like many have thought. So with 24+ on a roster who will want that if your player rank is 12th-24th.

Anonymous said...

The GDA is mandating like everything else certain things. All clubs have to maintain scholarships, but are need based. In other words, nothing to do with skill or ability, all about family finances. Makes no sense if you are truly looking to find and development

Some clubs like LA will be fully funded across the board. Don't count on PDA doing this, they are more about money than development.

Anonymous said...

1:28 - so are you saying you would turn down an outstanding training opportunity even if your kid was the last one invited? You know Tom Brady was not a top pick either? Sometimes it's that edgy kid that is tired of being overlooked that brings it.

Anonymous said...

553 definitely if my child is last on that ladder I will stay ECNL and let her enjoy HS soccer. Sorry but there is not enough clubs in GDA yet and travel expenses will be outrageous. It would be like the beginning stages of ECNL.

Plus if you look at it our 02's in 8th grade they will be competing with 01&02's that will be entering Jr/Soph year of HS. Go play with some of top 01's in your club I bet you'll get a reality check.

Anonymous said...

If a GDA is associated with a pro team, then there's more money and more "free" chances. Otherwise it's on the club to to the right thing financially.
Again the USA is backwards with soccer...most other countries, the better player you are, the less you pay.

Anonymous said...

735 That's a laugh "If GDA is associated with a pro team then there's more money and "free" chances" Sky Blue has the lowest attendance of any sports team they are in the negative every year on financials. I doubt they are funding any GDA players.

Anonymous said...

So typical....find one example to negate the whole argument...
How many pro teams are there? Just Sky Blue?

Anonymous said...

Typical please! It's not one example 7 out of 10 NWSL teams average 5k or less in attendance with Sky Blue having the lowest they are not going to fund GDA teams. With NWSL only having 9/10 matches a year they do not make enough to cover salaries of players, coaches, and personal along with all the other cost of marketing, fields and training. No big company is knocking on the door to sponsor NWSL teams due to low marketing value in return because of attendance. The PDA/Sky Blue merger for DA was a way to field quality teams at both DA and ECNL. Thus the reason why Matchfit backed out as by no means they are ready to field teams in both leagues and stay competitive. World Class, Cedar Stars, EM etc. will be the same great DA teams but lack of talent if they keep ECNL.

NWSL attendance recap: http://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2016-nwsl-attendance/

Anonymous said...

A club is therefore seeing something valuable in GDA and will continue to operate
If someone is only looking to GDA for freebies, they're missing the point

Anonymous said...

so you could be the best soccer player in the state, but if your parents have a decent job, please pay up and you can join our development platform. We promise it will be the best. And then we will mandate what you can and can not do. Makes sense.

Anonymous said...

:)
Or just stick to ECNL 1:21, you're good. So your daughter's club is currently free? haha
Don't feel so threatened
No one will force your daughter into this, options options

Anonymous said...

7:56 - our club does play the older teams in it for scrimmages and practices. You don't get better unless you play the better players. And, in HS, a senior doesn't care if a kid is another senior or a freshman when playing them as an opponent. They play to win. That is the same mentality in college too. If you are on the field, you gotta have game.

Anonymous said...

Is there a consensus that PDA/Cedar Stars/World Class concentrate their top talent in the DA team and not in ECNL? If so will the competition in ECNL nosedive - and people end up traveling to play 2nd tier teams?

Are there any alternatives - National League?

Anonymous said...

Ecnl will be very even with npl. I think those leagues needs to merge or ecnl needs to open up to a bunch of new clubs. They should give ecnl to clubs in the north like a CRUSh or Stallions and a SJEB/RUSH in the south.

Anonymous said...

Not so sure that will happen, most clubs are not thrilled about depleting their ECNL teams. This program will take 2-4 years to become standard, by then tbe 02's will be in college, and all this angst becomes another parents problem.

Anonymous said...

Haha thats funny. Tsf crush sdfc stallions all gonna be gone soon. So many defections. Princeton took crush best player.

Anonymous said...

Are you talking about the Crush player that jumped from a 2002 team to a #1 2000 team. That is just jumping into straight college showcase. Unique coach that is giving 120% to that age group. Players from all teams jumped there.

Anonymous said...

Yup. Just like Stallions had Dynamite, Princeton (or IGFA) has that one special team. The rest are meh. I guess Wildcats are great at 2002 (so is SJEB in the south). Unfortunately its not just coach - you also need to grow the team for a couple of years, and manage to attract new talent each year to deal with burnouts.

Anonymous said...

I dont think that team is like Dynamite. Im not sure we ever see another dynamite. Also think 2001-2002 is the meat of the recruiting pyramid not a 2000 team. Better to play for pda ecnl if you can. Or even mf and wc.

Anonymous said...

Rumors are that ECNL is mandating full participation; if you are DA, you cannot keep ECNL. I believe this is waived for the founding clubs (PDA will get by by using the sky blue GDA tag), but the other clubs have to choose one or the other.

Anonymous said...

stop spreading bullshit.

Anonymous said...

I heard the same thing 8:39.

Anonymous said...

Awesome youth organizations battle for power kids lose.

Anonymous said...

8:39, I heard that it was the DA mandating that clubs(with a dozen or so exemptions) could not participate in ECNL and DA. Same end result - a power struggle, but one initiated by the DA, not the ECNL. Doesn't effect PDA they are an exception and doesn't affect Cedar Stars bc they aren't in the ECNL. Does impact Penn Fusion though. They have a decision to make.

Anonymous said...

Yes they can only keep both if 3 of their 4 ECNL teams made the Champions league. Indeed Penn Fusion will have to choose. My guess is that the only PA GDA is in Lancaster.

Anonymous said...

Regarding ID camps, clinics, Rutgers Penn State.

1- Be sure you understand, at schools of this "soccer" quality, like top 20-50 D1, understand your kid better already be great, be on npl, ecnl or something. Don't think it's not too late. By 02 you have to be on a good team, just have to at 02 now with recruiting. If still on town team, or something, get as quickly as you can on npl or ecnl or Academy etc. Realize when they put you in 3rd - 12th brackets that you are not on a good team. And be sure you are at Jeff Cup, Disney, CASL, Eclipse, Bethesda, at the least.
2- 90% of the battle is you as a parent understanding the above thoroughly, and also that your kid Wants to go to this type of soccer school. Even if a prodigy at Rutgers you may sit. But at Princeton you may play.
3 - These are two-three things I see that are very important. Kid has to think they can do it, parent understand above and you may sit even if one of the best in country at a top 20-50 D1 school.
My daughter "thinks" she can do Rutgers, and does not care if she sits. I am explaining try another D1 school so you can play more, better chance to make etc. But she insists on going with the best........so again that is 90% of the battle.

Anonymous said...

I am hearing the same. I think we will see PF back out much like Match Fit did leaving PA Classics as the only GDA in PA.

Anonymous said...

Incorrect clubs will keep DA and ECNL. As ECNL will still be a strong stable on the even years on the 1st go around od GDA. Remember DA is Bi-annual from U15+ so next year's squad will of U17(01/02's) and mostly 01's will take majority of the roster that will leave a large number of talented 02's to find somewhere to play as there is no "B" team in GDA. Only the national level players at 02 will be moved up to U17(01/02) next year.

So the Even(02,00's) year's for ECNL next year will be very competitive as many of the players that did not make the U17's GDA team will flock to an ECNL team with the club or outside the club.

Anonymous said...

1236 makes a good point! With less GDA teams leaves and ECNL at yearly age groups it opens up more talent pushed out or missed to fulfill ECNL teams.

Anonymous said...

We believe that we will have to do the GDA for one year for college coaches credibility. As soon as my daughter gets a commitment, we will leave GDA and move back to ECNL/NPL depending on team, coach and location. This way we can enjoy more family time and HS soccer for last two years. It is also is hard on my other two children who don't play high level sports. We have spoke to coaches at PDA and they agree and believe a lot of families will do this as well and that many of the best girls are still undecided because of the family commitments the GDA requires.. Only reason we would leave ecnl is because of distance, over an hour away and may not be necessary if we can find solid training alternative. I think most clubs really just care about overall number of kids playing. $$$$ regardless.

Anonymous said...

12:36
Your premise is correct
But GDA teams are labeled U16/17(02, 01) and U18/19(00,99) at that age, not just U17 and U19.
I could see some 02s making a mark. The upside is that the 02s that make it have 2 years with that team.

Anonymous said...

We are sticking with ecnl next year and will make decision following year da. I have the confidence in daughters skill that she can always move. Spoke with our DOC and he fine with decision. We also spoke with older daughters D1 coach who says the jury is still,out and will be for some time. Although I will admit, we are going to tryouts. I think they want to see more kids opt out, just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

We're staying put and shooting for the B team.
I hate to see my little girl not win when she tries out for something.
The participation ribbons will be flying that day!

Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain to me what will happen to the 02's and 00's that do not make the GDA team's within those clubs as there is not single age group for those years next year for GDA.

Anonymous said...

Guessing if you don't make GDA you can play next team. Whatever the club may call it...B, Elite, etc...
Or go back where you already play if you didn't miss tryouts?

Anonymous said...

2pm - my kid can make any DA in the country and start and be top 5. Still not going and she will get committed next year and could have already if I had your ego.

Anonymous said...

3:17 - 2pm is a troll, obviously. Don't feed it.

Anonymous said...

Yesterday we were debating if NWSL would be funding some GDA teams they are associated with and many doubt it because of attendance. Well I'm little disappointed after reading this article as well knowing there is pretty much no women except for 1. NWSL can't even fork over the funds to get potential player/coach's trained and certified.

http://www.excellesports.com/news/nwsl-diversity-women-coaches/?utm_source=ExcelleSports+Main+List&utm_campaign=91ad6cd14b-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2016_11_22&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_ece29a6034-91ad6cd14b-183811981

Anonymous said...

The clubs are providing the full scholarships, not the USSF or GDA. So if a GDA Team roster is 30 and they are providing only 10 scholarships the other 20 are paying the bill for the 10 that have a legit shot. Let's be real for a second if your kid is paying they are not at the top of the class and have no shot at USNT camp invite. I'm not going to argue college because to each their own.

5:39 - Some NWSL clubs will generate more money from their GDA teams. SkyBlue/PDA will probably generate more from youth soccer than they will from attendance and that is sad.

Anonymous said...

The clubs have to provide a minimum number of scholarships, again mandated from GDA. They are all need based and have zero to do with ability. Go do the research, it is very clearly stated.

Anonymous said...

907 I call BS there are players playing for free now because clubs are afraid of losing them to competing clubs. Trust me.

Anonymous said...

Why should anyone trust you? We don't know who you are and if you have any credibility. It's laughable that someone on an anonymous board would say trust me.

Anonymous said...

I agree, trust is for lovers and losers, it might Donald J. for all we know, I heard that Barron wants to play for the NYCFC Academy team, he will make it happen.

Anonymous said...

9:38 I trust you and I know your right. That's life man.

10:22 why do you post as anonymous?

11:41 I know why you do - because if you signed it - you wouldn't haven made your post.

9:07 I see 1,544 players receive a full scholarship. How would a club define need based? So you think they are going to ask for tax returns from the previous year for all players to determine who the need based players are? Oh only if a player submits an application for a scholarship - i can see many doing that unless of course the club makes public their family income threshold so all players thinking of trying out know they can play for free if accepted.

Anonymous said...

12:41 - Yes, if a player wants financial aid, the parent(s) or legal guardian(s) will likely need to file an application that includes the prior year tax return(s). An example of the type of financial aid application form that might be used can be found on the EPYSA ODP website at:

https://usys-assets.ae-admin.com/assets/947/15/2016-17%20ODP%20Financial%20Aid%20Application.pdf

Anonymous said...

Do you really believe wc and cedar stars will have a decent platform for girls next year? Hard for me to believe tgat. But do think pda can pull it off.

Anonymous said...

This is what I foresee happening the players that did not get picked up at PDA's GDA will flock to the other GDA's like WC or CS to make those roster's.

Anonymous said...

12:56 I will play along - you are the club since you know the process.

I am the parent of a player that is good enough to start on your team, we haven't been at try outs because we know we can't afford your tuition. Where is it made public the family income threshold for a scholarship? Does the club want parents not on their teams to submit their tax return prior to try out? I would think yes, Why waste anyone time right? I have yet to see this on any website you know black and white family income thresholds to be eligible for a scholarship. But they don't do this to avoid applicants, they let everyone come up with their own threshold in their own mind.

Anonymous said...

1:18 and 1:25.

I think all the GDA teams will be good, remember FIFA rules only 14 of the 18 that dress play in the game and the 3 subs might only play a few minutes. If each GDA is giving out 10 scholarships those kids will play the bulk of the games and any player that is quality will have their parents looking to save a buck at any DA hey man that's a minimum of 8k in your wallet over 4 years to pay for that travel.

The kids with the dreams will pay the full price and will train 4 times per week and play very little. Do you you think the college coaches that come to practice is coming to look at them?
Maybe?

I'm not knocking the GDA - I love the top of the pyramid league model. I wish all the kids that play lots of luck.

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