Only cost me 40 bucks thus farI will keep you posted
I'm sure this crush team was better than the old 01 team, it's a summer select team.Why would they go under the tsunami name as a summer select team? maybe a point grab if they got lucky.
This isn't even a real crush team, it's a summer select team? Why are you posting about the tournamanet and saying you are the first team to play new birth year change and you are just summer select. Something wrong here. And you use a club team name?
@840 CRUSH poster. Why did you guys register a summer select team under your NPL team name? You blame got soccer for making mistakes, but also looks like you guys are abbusing it. If this team was a separate summer select team, it should have gone on its own record and team page, like everyone else does.
First time ever that fc crush hasn't responded. Says something.
I don't know exactly what you all are talking about with crush- don't know specifics of this tournament-but I do know that the club does not do tournaments or anything else to get points. They play the tough tournaments, in the highest flights they can get into for the experience, where often they could win or do better in lower level flights or lower level tournaments.
803, no sure what you are hinting at, but at some point they need to win, a lot, otherwise you will not get respect, and therefore less attention at showcase events coming this year. Trust me, I know all about playing soccer the right way, it simply does not equate into an undefeated team, it really doesn't. Best of luck!
I think the crush guy just got caught by blogging to much. And exposed the club using a summer select team and a regular npl team together. All good, no one cares anyway. Hope this is your year, long overdue. I think your 01 team will be in trouble, probably why coach moved on.
Stars list is out. Not very impressive for the 2002/15 age bracket. I think we all have to wait until spring until things pick up, this age year ch age sucks.
Our tournament list came out, we are doing:NEWSSCASLDISNEYPDAThat's a pretty good line-up, and we are skipping State Cup.Just want my kid to get through the HS season unhurt, it's reallyall I care about, hope she enjoys the experience!
The problem you may have is getting into PDA tournamnet. If the club/team has not supported these tournaments in the past, and I don't belive crush has, you get put on bottom of list. This is the way PDA and other elite clubs/tournaments play.
Unless it is the West Chester Summer Classic, which has devolved into a PF intersquad scrimmage.
Crush and PDA are or were fairly close. When PDA was actively doing 5v5 Festivals at U8-U10, Crush was there a lot.
That tournament schedule is not Crush, but the poster left out Jeff Cup to throw off the guessers, good one!It's probably NYSC or NY Surf, either way that along with either NPL or EDP should be a very busy and productive season, good luck to all!
What is the name of the new crush 2002 team? How does the make up of girls look with a bunch starting HS? I assume most teams will have to carry large rosters and the younger 02 will get a lot more playing time in the fall season.
Looks Like Cedar Stars will be in the next round of Girls DA + a awesome facility. http://tworivertimes.com/soccer-academy-coming-to-tinton-falls/
am I correct their is no U15 2002 NJCSA team?
How will the DA get away providing free soccer on boys side and possible not on girls side?
Because there is $$$$ made in men's pro soccer.
This is not professional, this is the us natl team. I understand more money on the boys side, if they do well, but they don't do very well.
The DA does not provide free soccer, they're telling the clubs to raise the money themselves to provide free soccer for the DA teams. The boys side was not free at first so maybe in time the girls side will also be free.
So I can see a very large increase $$ in clubs with DA. They will increase annual tuition on their clubs youth teams and non DA teams. Which to me hurts the development at the youth ages as many parents will skip out of travel soccer and stay among town level teams. 1208 agree the boys aren't doing that well sorry they don't even have a Olympic team that qualified. So there is proof in the pudding the boys DA is not working. I'm sorry I think the ECNL/NPL leagues are doing just fine and produced caliber in the US national pool and collegiately.
It seems unfair to me that every non-academy team at clubs that have academy teams have to subsidize the free academy teams. The girls side has done really well in developing players from many different clubs. I think that the academy system is too exclusive with only a few clubs allowed in.
How can you say the DA failed? it's been around 9 years and already has sent a few players to Europe to play for TOP clubs that we never sent before.At the end of the day the DA hasn't failed it's the subjective views of the people that select the players that has failed. Just keeping it real
So the top Us DA players got to clubs in Europe? Seems like a successful DA program should want to keep their players here.
What's 500 more / yr / player... you pay 2500 now, you'd pay 3000. They will tell you it will help your kid chance of getting in the DA later on... One good thing is that town teams will probably get some more players. This could backfire and cause more people to realize their kid isn't elite and the carrot they were chasing is gone... The youth boys programs aren't nearly the money maker that the girls are...
2:40 I believe the plan is 2020 for MLS being the top league in the world.MLS has been around for 20 years the soccer culture in our country just isn't what it is overseas. Now if you ever visited overseas i think you know exactly what I'm talking about. The better the player the bigger the payday (transfer fees) and that's where MLS is now sell the talent to buy experienced older players to improve the quality of the game today which will improve the quality of the game going forward.I hate saying this but we need more foreign coaches.
The prize for men maybe is to play overseas but I don't think most women want that.
2:28 Yes you are correct. The current NJCSA/Cedar Stars 2002's left club. They did not get enough 2002 commits at tryouts to have a viable 2002 team for this coming year so they are keeping their rosters secret so this info is not made public. Those 2002's who are expecting a team to play on next year will be forced to play up on 2001 Team next spring or leave the club.
Where are the people that killed the teams that scored a bunch of goals?U.S. U-15 Girls National Team routs Trinidad & Tobago 22-0
113 proof in the pudding U15 girls dominated opponents but then again USSoccer wants to move to what the boys side is doing. Yeah the boys have sent a few to Europe to play because of the DA but like someone mention before they don't even have a team in the Olympics to represent US and the so called program to save boys soccer. It's a power game for $$$'s the girls side is working and has been for two decades.
Missing this Olympics was a fluke
344 Yeah fluke that's a big laugh you keep thinking that. US is dominating or represent with medals in almost every sporting event in the Olympics and Men's soccer wasn't even there, That's an embarrassment to US Soccer program on the boys side. Once another 5-8 years go by and the men's side still hasn't done anything I'm sure someone will come in and change the layout again. Here in the US we finds athletes to Swim, Box, Basketball, Golf, Fence, Run, etc. but still can't find enough players to put together a Men's soccer team equivalent to the Women's side.
What if women and girls in other countries were encouraged, supported, and permitted to play soccer (i.e. football) to the same extent as the boys and men in their respective countries? Would the U.S. women still appear to be as dominant? The success of the U.S. women has more to do with a culture and systems of education and government that for the most part encourages their success, than its does with training and development.
523 Exactly instead of changing the programs and re-inventing something that has already succeeded on the women's side why not tell US soccer federation to market the sport better, bring up and market the culture of the sport so more fans and kids stick with it as they get older. Spend those $'s there on the men's side then hopefully it will succeed with or without a DA program. There is absolutely not one US male player a young boy can look up to compared to the girls side.
Nice tie by the women yesterday - heh.Men is U-23. You realize this, right?
5:23 thank you. You get it. We are not dominant because of ecnl's powerful kick and run development program. We are dominant because the best women athletes are encouraged to play soccer from a young age. The boys are getting mid tier athletes with a few good athletes. I dont think the boys get the elite athletes in this country. So the fact that boys from DA are starting to compete in europe against elite european athletes is a really positive data point. The system is working. So when you compare us womens vs mens remember the athletic pools are different. You are not comparing apples to apples. The uswnt has looked horrible. If we played like france with our talent it would be 5-0 every game. We are athletic not the greatest players save for heath press and some of the new comers.
7:19 - You are right US women have some real good athletes but at that level they do have some skill. The new comers do have more foot skill then the older players. The new comers were taught differently. On the Mens side they will never get the bulk of the talent. They do get a few talented kids. If I had a boy I would have pushed him towards Football, Basketball or Baseball before Soccer. Although, they are sports I grew up with. Maybe our kids will push their boys toward soccer instead of football. I have noticed driving around to different areas or parts of the country the one thing that is in most every town is a nice HS football stadium. Maybe the soccer teams are allowed to play there.
The boys soccer team is third in line to use the football field. Football. Lacrosse, soccer. Sad but true for boys soccer. HS Soccer is a joke for boys. The girls team gets more respect.
So wouldnt you agree if this is the case the boys DA is doing a terrific job?
Men's lacrosse is the up and coming sport. All the best athletes and gravitating towards it now. People are concerned with injuries in football and baseball is boring. Plus the girls like football and Lacross players more, that can be a deciding factor too.
DA and GDA is nothing more than a shell game, moving the best players from one program into another. For this reason, DA has not helped to improve the level of the men's soccer team in comparison to the rest of the world. The men's program was in the 2d tier before DA and is still in the 2d tier with no young super stars, ala Mesi or Ronaldo, to place our hopes of a future world cup title. GDA will likewise have no impact on the level of our women's national team in comparison to the rest of the world, but the women's program is full of young super stars and will, therefore, continue to succeed. Until the men's program is able to attract elite male athletes to play soccer, the men's program will continue to stay in the 2d tier, miss out on the Olympics, and have no real chance of winning a World Cup. Having a few players on European teams is not a measure of success. The US had players in Europe in the 80s when Dads coached our teams.
9.48I don't think the boys DA is doing a terrific job. I think it's too exclusive leaving out many talented players. The US wants to have all these elite groups. All clubs who adopt the training philosophy of US soccer should be allowed the same opportunities.
9:39 - Lacrosse is a spring sport where I live but I agree with you boys soccer 3rd in line for field. FootballMarching Bandboys soccergirls soccer/field hockey
3:44 Was it a fluke when we missed the last one? An 8 year long fluke. Remarkable.
Is soccer a fall sport? No, 10 months and no other sports. At least boys who play football and lacross can play multiple sports. Even basketball or skiing in winter. Soccer controls your life and family time, other sports don't. The girls DA trying to do the same, and for what? That almost zero percent chance you make the women's national team. And then what? They don't don't even put college first.
The DA has become a recruiting place for college coaches. Most of the players end up playing in college. A few might go to Europe to play but that's the choice of the player and family, not the ussda.
Where's that next round of DA announcements?
USWNT out coached. Pia has Ellis' number. What in the world did Rapinoe even see the light of day in that game? When you have to sub for your sub, not good.
3 days of radio silence and this is the only nonsense posted that there is a 2001 listed on a u15 roster as everyone is still sorting everything out still. Man what a slow month 👎
Just think all those USA is dominant l, ecnl model is perfect people put head in sand after that embarrassment vs sweden. Yes some good players coming from ecnl (dunn, pugh). DA will only make more.
K.B. should not be on LVU 2002 Black team. She is a 2001 player, which means, she will be u16 in fall. She played ODP
Yes please Gotsoccer immediately remove any 01s from any 02 rosters, especially if they played ODP so people can get some sleep. Thank you in advance.
EDP Girls U15 2002 1st Division NorthARSENAL PREMIER FC MAXIMUS RED 02FORCE FC FORCE 02LAGRANGE STRIKERS SDFC 2002G YELLOW TSF ACADEMY 2003GWAYNE SC GGG 2002 1st Division CentralCHERRY HILL FC DESTROYERS '02HAVERFORD ELITE 02 HFC READY 2002 MONTGOMERY UNITED MONU 02'SNEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS GREY TWIN COUNTY SA XTREME 02/03 WARRINGTON FC NINJAS 1st Division SouthCESC CALVERT-ELITE '02 ARUNDEL ASA PUMAS '02 BALTIMORE BAYS LIGHTNINGHMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC HYS THUNDER BLACKNORTH UNITED FC RUSHPHWM SC 2002 RED PIPELINE SC BLACKSAC PREMIER BLUE SUPERNOVA FC SUPERNOVA 02G BLACK
Cake walk for Arsenal Premier and Rush Grey. South Division the Division of Death. North United, Pipeline, and HMMS will beat each other up.
Top 25 U15 teams according to TDS, if you believe TDS. Bethesda higher than PDA? I suspect some of those EDP teams could run with some of these TDS ranked teams.1 Slammers FC - ECNL 2 FC Stars of Massachusetts - ECNL 3 Concorde Fire SC - ECNL 4 West Coast FC - ECNL 5 San Diego Surf - ECNL 6 Mustang SC - ECNL 7 Solar Chelsea SC - ECNL 8 GSA - Phoenix Red ECNL 9 Bethesda SC - ECNL 10 CASL - ECNL 11 Michigan Hawks - ECNL 12 Dallas Sting - ECNL 13 PDA - ECNL 14 Tophat SC - ECNL 15 Vardar - ECNL 16 OP - ECNL 17 FC Boston Scorpions - ECNL 18 SC del Sol - ECNL 19 Sporting Blue Valley SC - ECNL 20 FC Nova (Idaho) - ECNL 21 Colorado Rush - Nike ECNL 22 Midwest United (Surprise – not ECNL)23 FC Dallas - ECNL 24 Eclipse Select (IL) - ECNL 25 FC Virginia - ECNL
What is Nike ECNL? Is Nike giving them the shoes?
743 agree but I think many colleges pay them also as it seems to promote certain collegiate schools as well.
As I look at the list of EPD teams, I am amazed that we have never played those teams. You would think that through the course of various tournaments we would of encounters at least some of them. My daughter is an 02, so I guess this is the table we will face, although we play NYCSL NPL, we might see a few at NEWSS or DISNEY. Good luck to all!
So what teams will be in the NPL leagues in the area - EDP NPL, Northeast NPL, and NYCSL NPL?
Where is the link, can't find it
NPL Northeast Girls 1. Albertson Fury 02 NPL 2. Connecticut FC 02 NPL3. Continental FC 02 NPL4. East Meadow SC 02 NPL5. FC Boston 02 NPL6. FC Bucks 02 NPL7. FC Stars 02 NPL8. FSA FC 02 NPL 9. Match Fit Academy 02 NPL 10. PDA North 02 NPL11. PDA South 02 NPL12. Penn Fusion SA 02 NPL13. World Class FC 02 NPL EDP NPL1. Alleycats SC2. Bethesda SC3. Cedar Stars Academy4. FC Copa Academy5. Jersey United Soccer Spartans6. Lehigh Valley United7. MD Rush Montgomery8. New Jersey Rush9. NJ Wildcats10. Pipeline SC11. SAC Premier12. TSF AcademyNYCSL NPL 1. Brentwood SC NPL-02 (NY)2. Manhattan SC NPL-02 (NY)3. Massapequa SC NPL-02 (NY)4. New York SC NPL-02 (NY)5. NJ Crush NPL-02 (NJ)6. NJ Stallions NPL-02 (NJ)7. Princeton SA NPL-02 (NJ) 8. Quickstrike FC NPL-02 (NY)9. STA NPL-02 (NJ)10. SUSA NPL-02 (NY)
The best from each:FC StarsNJ RushNYSC Any questions?
3 Comments1. FC Stars haven't finished in the playoff money for the past 2 years. That would be quite a jump2. The comfortable pick would be Wildcats, but I assume withe the combo of NJ Rush, SJB and Hamilton Wildcats the Rush team would be too much for them at U153. STA may have something to say there
Match Fit 2002 and PDA 2002 class of EAST coast
Funny, but I never heard of those teams, are they in Suffolk County?
8:14 of course they must be from NJ
Wow. No surprise both PDA and Matchfit blowing their own horn and throwing dirt on everyone else before a game is even played.Plese both clubs don't use class and PDA or Matchfit in the same sentence again.
About your 3rd point 5:29, STA would have something to say...I agree with 3:22.
Nah - its all about Crush But the comp will be fairly tightNo East/West is the better way to do things - and I suppose they play 18 games.....vs 16 a year back
2:37 - I'll be sure not to use you and intelligent in the same sentence.
Match Fit 2002 team middle of pack. PDA 2002 top 3 team for ECNL league
How many Match Fit '02s are from last year's U14s?
Spirit United U15G and U16G coming to a close today! Some great competition..http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=52813&Gender=Girls&Age=15
So much for Rush being #1 in the country, way to go North United, whoever the hell you are!
Think about half of the 2002s were with MFA last year. ECNL team added some pretty talented kids from other clubs. I am curious what the team will look like.
3:59 Maybe because the 9th graders didn't participate ?
7:00 Why wouldn't they if they are on the team? Please don't tell me they would leave their team behind -the team that will get them to the promise land to play for their high School team. In my opinion any player that doesn't pick their team first shouldn't be on the team period. Let them fend for them self if that is their choice. Non-ECNL teams need to more successful then their ECNL counterparts to be accepted to top flights to benefit the team. If players aren't ready to contribute to that then they shouldn't be there in the first place. We always talk about taking HS away from kids how about the kids that pick the club first? What of them and the money their parents spend to play short at tournaments?I say keep it simple - Premier Clubs should put a stop to this or drop their tuition at this age and older - I thought these were the important years for kids to get on a college radar? If that's what they want they need to pick club over HS simple - or play HS/ODP and as many other sports that they want.
Overall, the non-ECNL teams were more successful than the host ECNL team at Spirit.
Most teams are not even playing right now, so until November you won't know much.
8/21, 3:59 - Although most people already know, North United is one of the better USYSA teams. They are from Pittsburgh. They will be playing EDP 1st Division South this fall and National League this year. North United and SJEB/Rush (FKA NJ Rush Blue, FKA Renegades, or whatever) have had a few close games recently. A reminder, U15 NL stacks up as follows:HMMS Eagle FC 02 Impact Eastern Pennsylvania Region I New Jersey Rush 02 Blue New Jersey Region I North United Rush 02 Pennsylvania West Region I YMS Premier 02 Eastern Pennsylvania Region I CUP 02 Gold Ohio South Region II Chicago Fire Jrs. South Premier Illinois Region II Sporting Omaha FC Elite 02 Nebraska Region II Nationals Union 02 Black Michigan Region II Solar Chelsea 02 North Texas Region III Tennessee SC 02 Showcase Tennessee Region III 02 CASL Ladies Red North Carolina Region III Sting Austin 02 South Texas Region III Arsenal FC Academy 02 Brown California South Region IV Legends FC 02 Academy California South Region IV La Roca PO 02 Utah Region IV Fullerton Rangers 02 White California South Region IV
So can someone please tell me why Rush went to NPL finals, seems like they tried to do both, and were a miserable failure at USYS Finals, too much soccer?? Rush is still a great team, and will have much success this year, good luck to them, and good luck to all...
Failure?They got their players to national Events twice in front of college coaches, that my friend is a success. Who cares how the team did in regards to results I'm sure they wanted to win but as long as the players had a chance to show what they have at that level individually it's a win many schools that went to CO & TX won't come to region1 events.The correct amount of soccer pal.PA has HMMS & YMS as 02 team destinations and NY Rush represents NJ in NL and if they are doing both NPL and NL that'sa huge win win.In regards to not all the teams showing up true - but we know how the teams that did stack up.
937 must be referring to CFC ecnl who played in the tournamanet. They didn't even finish league last year because they were son bad and teams were beating them by 6 plus points by halftime.
159 so are you saying an ECNL team did not finish league play, wouldn't that club be placed on probation or something especially with so many clubs trying to get into the ECNL league.
They should be, not sure how they got away with it. They literally could not compete, it was sad and not fun to play against them.
Wrong CFC - Although they do look alike. Neither one very strong according to results.
Are we talking about last year U13 or U14? As U13 was still pre-ECNL and U14 was ECNL and yes based on the ECNL teams do get placed on probation.
You can tell there are many newbie's on the blog coming from U13. 243 That's Pre-ECNL which doesn't even gauge what the teams will be as the ECNL website will have more info per team. To what I hear the ratio of U15 2002 ECNL teams like PDA, MF, WC, and so on have a 65-80% ratio of HS to 8th grader on the teams. So again let's not gauge and point out teams if you do not even know what your looking at. I think NL USYS will be the league to watch this coming year, I think those teams will be just as strong and comparable to the top 5 ECNL team.
@10:28 So I am at beach yesterday with friend of mine talking about who this team is? Thanks for the information and listing. Good for them, they won top bracket at Spirits, what else can you ask for. All of these teams are great teams below. Makes sense. YMS the weakest, HMMS just keeps getting better. HMMS Eagle FC 02 Impact Eastern Pennsylvania Region I New Jersey Rush 02 Blue New Jersey Region I North United Rush 02 Pennsylvania West Region I YMS Premier 02 Eastern Pennsylvania Region I
Good teams, not great.
News Flash!!!THERE ARE NO COLLEGE COACHES AT A U13 GAME, UNLESS ITS THE COACHES KID.Carry on being stupid.
447 HaHa Spot On! I think is the most truthful fact this month. At least someone with some sense around here.
Isn't this u15? Most of these girls are in first year of HS and they will be recruited this year.And coaches will be watching.
Agree - the best girls in this age group will be getting looked at the process begins this year.
Debated whether I should respond, so here goes. The OP was talking about this past summer, when the Rush team was playing as U13 team, then someone pointed out that college coaches don't have time to attend those games, even if they are national events.
okay, that conversation ended long ago, let it go. This is now u15.
Just to clarify some of the discussion here... for U13 Pre ECNL last year, Connecticut FC dropped out for the spring Season. Continental FC stayed in and had a ok spring, beating World Class and Match Fit, tieing East Meadow and Penn Fusion, losing to Stars, Boston, Bucks, FSA, Fury. They ended the season 8th place out of 12. Match Fit did not report their last two home games, so this skews the standings on the npl northeast website.
Again why are we talking about U13 as many on this blog or heading into U15 were U14 players last year. I think someone posted yesterday a ratio of HS players so let's forget about the U13 years as this U15 year is the first of for many of actually attracting schools which is the most important fact of why our girls play club soccer. NY-North Jersey area will be a something to watch with 5-6 teams headed to girls DA next year with in a 2 hour distance from each other it will be a hub of soccer craziness up here.
And from Arlington County, VA, a traditional hot-bed of soccer, the latest news is that the School Board voted last week to make Ultimate Frisbee an official school sport for middle and high school students. Arlington County becomes the first school system in Virginia to make the game an official sport. “It’s a lot like soccer, but it has an aerial element that’s similar to football,” said David Soles, executive director of the Youth Ultimate League of Arlington. Ultimate will be a fall sport for boys and girls, so it will not compete with soccer, which is played in the spring in Virginia, although I suppose those in the DA will be precluded from playing. BTW, Long Bridge Park in Arlington is a beautiful soccer complex.
If the DA is not free, they should back off the no HS rule. They are out of bounds on this one. I get it, if they are offering scholarships to everyone, but not until they do. Maybe there is a lawyer in the house that can help us.
I believe MF has 2 2002 returning from last years team.
835 only 2 players, please think about your facts between last year's u14 and U13 I doubt only 2 players at 2002 are returning to the club especially with DA approaching for them next year so please stop with the rumors or false facts.
10+ 2002s were with Club last year. Team will be pretty good, brought in some nice players. Probably not equal to the girls that left, but close.
Some of you are getting your panties all bunched up over this DA/no High School issue!!It's YOUR choice people!! Academy has 4 training sessions per week, is your daughter really going to play for both?? Will your daughter even make the DA team? What is your daughter's plan with soccer? Take Abby Wambach's place?
My daughter is a top player on one of the top teams in state and always invited to every NTC and more. So yes, she has a good chance to make the team. HS is usually the best experience they have in their youth playing experience, so why take that away? Again, if they are paying the bills, I get it. Who gives a crap if it's not soccer up to your standards? What about the rest of the family, this take so much time, money and commitment from every family. Do you have other children? And for what, the 1 in 5000 odds that they may make a natl team roster? College is the end game for most of the girls and only because of a better education. The DA should be the natl team program and maybe triple it.
Agree - let the kids enjoy all of their youth experiences and high school is very importan and fun for the majority. Where else do you get to play in front of your friends, family and community on a regular basis. We really enjoyed our older kids experience and they always said it was the most fun they had playing.
It all hinges on what High School you can play for. You dont really have a choice of changing high school, like you would with a club. So, if your high school sucks, or is small - you can bet that playing DA w/o HS sounds like a great option. The equation is different if your school is bis and good. That may be a better option for younger players than a DA - if you're the sort of person that believes in playing against tough competition every time.
There isn't tough competition in High School
11:18pm yes from my understanding there are 2 players from old U14 team and 1 from u13 team (my old team). I responded to a question that read or possibly misread about players from old U14 team. I know many of my daughter players that were 02 did not stick around. most left prior to season ending last year.
525 . People like you have no life and I'm sure your daughter has no friends.It's your agenda and soccer is everything. Until she gets injured and has no identity.Very sad...
5:25 - These are arguably the top five pre-season public high school girls teams in eastern PA. Look into some of the girls who play for these schools and rethink whether there isn't tough competition. You'd be surprised who gets cut from these programs.Cumberland Valley, Mechanicsburg, PA Parkland, Allentown, PA Central Bucks East, Doylestown, PA Pennsbury, Fairless Hills, PA Neshaminy, Langhorne, PA
CHOICE people, stop bitching!!! Who is forcing your daughter to play HS soccer?Choose and move on, no need to belittle another person for choosing differently. There aren't 2 HS soccer programs that are the same anywhere! You can compare experiences but that's about it!I believe cross country and tennis are also offered in the fall....
Wake up 833 - the conversation has been around the DA and not giving a CHOICE to play HS soccer.
It's still a choice dumb assYou choose DA or you choose HSstop whiningGo Hillary!!
10:43 who are the clubs for these high school players? HMMS for Cumberland Valkey? PA Classics?
Yes plus PF, CFC, LVU, FC Bucks etc...
NJ has some very strong HS teams that many ECNL players play on and very hard to crack a Varsity team. Below are just a few but there are 5-6 other HS that are just as good. So like many have said it's a choice and by the time DA is fully rolled out it may not matter anymore to girls that are Sophomores, Juniors, or Seniors. Colts Neck: That has a U17 National player on it + others from PDA & MFNorthern Highlands: PDA & MF players on itImmaculate Girls HS: World Class & NJ Wildcats players on it
11:29 - Below is an approximate answer to your question about the club - high school alignment. The clubs listed below could be considered "home clubs" for the respective high schools. An easy call for Cumberland Valley and Parkland because the club territory is similar to, if not the same as the school district boundaries. It's more difficult to make that call for the other three schools because they are in very close proximity to each other. That said, all five schools have players representing many different clubs. Even as far west as Cumberland Valley is, it still has PF players.Cumberland Valley, Mechanicsburg, PA - HMMSParkland, Allentown, PA - ParklandCentral Bucks East, Doylestown, PA - FC Bucks Pennsbury, Fairless Hills, PA - YMSNeshaminy, Langhorne, PA - Hulmeville
@1105: Read all your post and then tell us who tne dumb ass is? Wow.
Basic English comprehension is required while reading these posts.Most are not reading to understand but reading while preparing a rebuttal in their head. Such arrogance and belligerence on display! In the words of Rodney King, can't we all just get along?
Ok 9:58, read slowly...Your daughter tries out for the DA...following so far?She makes the DA...are we good..?The coach then reminds her "hey Mia, you can't play on your HS team if you play with us"...still following?Whose choice is it now? Your daughter's and yours...dumb ass!Who is forcing you to do either?You may not LIKE the choice, but you choose the outcome.Simple English!
And another person who can't read simple sentences...
Sounds like every hates 6:54 ...
6:37, and 6:54 obviously Trump supporters, what are you guys doing after the election?
As Trump says, " if you don't agree with me, you're a LOSER." Make America hate again!
Have you heard about the lonesome loser, . . .
New York Surf 02 (Weschester) off to an unfortunate start, 0-6, 0-8, in the EM Tourney, not a good way to improve recruitment...
LVU has 2001 players playing at the 2002 level. K.B. #44 is one of them. Why is her name on the rosters for 2000, 2001, and 2002 teams ?
So sorry boss-man, me bad spell, but you smart, figure it our, yes?
I don’t like using that National Socialist word, so I will known from this day forward as: Grammar-Granny!
NY Surf has rapidly become the metro New York club to avoid. They promoted themselves all spring as the Holy Grail of girls soccer and the East Coast equivalent of San Diego Surf. They thought they could get a GDA and into the ECNL even though they they didn't exist prior to April. They didn't get a GDA. Now they are trying for ECNL. They have yet to name their Girls DOC who most likely is the fired Stony Brook women's coach (and fired for practiced that led to clams of her being "out of touch" with today's women's college soccer players). One of their selling points was the hodge podge collection of college coaches they gathered for the GDA app. The funny thing is that the '02 team is COACHED BY ONE OF THOSE COLLEGE COACHES and they still lost to EM ECNL's team 8-nil. NY Surf pulled off one of the biggest Bernie Madoff con jobs and unfortunately parents fell for it. I'm expecting an exodus next spring.
Very well writtenA crock, but thanks anyway for trying
I AM the Spell Check Nazi and will not be replaced that easily."I don’t like using that National Socialist word, so I will known from this day forward as: Grammar-Granny!"11:05, you seem to have forgotten a word...you have failed!
Regarding the HS vs GDA discussion...so many readers here seem to have difficulty understanding the blog posts.Whoever started the discussion is merely saying that your daughter has the choice to play either one. If GDA doesn't allow HS play then you have your choice of HS. Bitching about it doesn't take away the reality.Btw, your daughter needs to actually make the GDA to play....
Cumberland Valley took no freshmen on the varsity team for this year. Last year they only took a back up GK who didn't play much in the varsity games. The year before they took 3 9th graders and 2 made the NTC combine, regional ODP team and/or were national players. The year before there were a whopping 4 Freshmen 2 of whom saw a few minutes except the keeper who was the only one. Oh and the national player was the PA Gatorade player of the year last year. her freshman year they didn't take a kid on varsity who has been to national camp since. The top HS are very tough to make the varsity as freshmen. HMMS sets them up as youngsters with the skills and soccer IQ then only to go elsewhere for high school exposure it seems. The Impact might prove them wrong, but the United team, where most of the seniors are currently playing, have lost their best players along the way to the mega clubs to the east and south. In the future the best will probably go to PA Classics just like the central PA boys already do. BTW those top kids mentioned all play at Penn Fusion. Will a kid at this school and others like it choose to play JV for a year or choose to play in the GDA- never having understood what she will miss? What about at the other extreme. Will a kid give up playing on a team where she is targeted as the only dangerous player on the field, risking injury every game, for the better developmental advantage that the GDA will offer? Will the kids committed have their future college coaches demanding they give up high school for GDA? There are a lot of high schools still playing at middle schools on lousy grass fields. There are no "fans" except the parents. The schools playing in stadia after school when kids can come support the team are much less common. Will this be enough of a draw to keep the top kids in high school soccer? Time will tell I guess.
Are you allowed HS Tennis and GDA?
For the 11 or so kids per age group going to the GDA they won't care. The rest will still get to play high school.
Are you allowed to actually go to school and play in the GDA?
Yes still attend school.
I know of at least 5 kids that will make PDA next year and everyone of them wants to play HS and they all tell their parents this. And I'm sure all the other ones do too. Why wouldn't they?
What happens to the two current top teams at ecnl clubs who got the DA? Do they keep three teams now or drop one?
They will select some of those players and undoubtedly pull in outside players to form a GDAP class. The rest will play ECNL as usual.
What if the best players decide not to go GDA? Will GDA still be considered the top of the pyramid?
7:19 Of Course it will.GDA is the USSF - which is the US Soccer Federation the boss of all things soccer simple!If the best players want to play for the USWNT - they can live life dangerously and play ECNL/ODP or whatever if there is a GDA in their backyard.In a country this big they can be as subjective as they want.
From looking at the teams across the country the they let into the DA, it looks like the Northeast DA will be very strong, but the second level, Northeast ECNL will also be strong, most likely stronger than some of the other region's DA teams. The Northeast does not look too diluted yet, whereas parts of California and Florida will be really diluted. ECNL says more teams are getting accepted into ECNL, we'll see how that landscape changes. Any guesses on what new Northeast teams will join the ECNL?Also...I think some DA kids will still be playing high school next fall...especially the very top kids whose position will be safe even if they miss the DA fall season.
Northeast looks strong????How about NYC, Lower Hudson Valley and Southern Conn.?Morons in California, too stupid to taken seriously.
9:13 - what are you saying? That NYC, Lower Hudson Valley and Southern Conn need DA teams? Or that the teams their are weak? Maybe a NYC team will join the ECNL? And yes, the Northeast Teams (for both GDA and ECNL) should do really well at the national events.
8:08This statement of your certainly needs further reviewThey havent been clear - can players actually play HS and DA?Will they actually ASK players if they will forego HS ball prior to making the DA selections?How will each club handle this - or will US Soccer MANDATE how it is to be handled?I dont have the answers. We will be affected by them - and wait to see if there are any announcements.
The USSF will mandate no high school soccer for kids who are in 2021 (I think might be 2022) graduating classes and younger. For those in 2020 and older they will be grandfathered and allowed to play high school by the USSF. However the Clubs may very well exert pressure otherwise. That is because the GDA will be on a 10 month schedule as of 2017 fall season. So they will be training and competing during the high school season. The USSF says a player can NOT participate in both HS soccer and GDA at any given time during the year. So clubs will pressure kids to give up highschool or risk their spot. Top kids will be able to move right in from high school, but the clubs will likely choose the role players based on who can play all year round.
Unless a DA is compromised solely of players local to the DA, in which case a DA could not claim to be the best of the best, then figure a large number of players will have up to a 2 hour round trip per day to practice 4 days per week. By default, that amount of travel in addition to the practice time itself would preclude any other sports and many other activities.We live over an hour away from the closest DA and ECNL programs. Even if the girl was good enough to make the DA, which she may be, the commute is not compatible with our family schedule. Therefore, I suppose that we need to set the expectation that because she will not be associated with the DA or ECNL brands, she may find herself at a disadvantage in the recruiting process. On the upside, she may be able to continue with music lessons, perhaps play another sport, and maybe even attend some high school football games and other social events.
As I said doesn't matter if it is logistically feasible. They are not allowed to play both at the same time as mandated by the USSF. No club will risk sanction by violating that policy. You may see kids rostered who don't play DA during high school season and then join later in the year once high school is over
Wait until you hear from the da, you know nothing. All speculation until tne real rules come out. They change or mind all day long.
Agree, no one knows what the GDA will really do. This is why there is so little information.
Uh... the rules are out dude. They have been in place for the boys. The only difference is the grandfather clause for HS, but it is clear no matter the logistics a player can't participate in both in the high school season if they choose high school.
I dont see the grandfather clause in print anywhere
So if the rules are out and the same for boys, can we assume it's free and that some kids can still play HS? I'd the substitution rule and roster size the same? On tne boys side, this that have HS scholarships for playing soccer are allowed to play, is this tne same for the girls?
Ah, da, I don't know dude. But I know they have a choice.
https://ussoccer.app.box.com/v/girlsacademyapplicationRules are in the application. Its up to each club if they allow girls to play high school. You just cant play GDA and High School at the same time. GDA would still need to be able to field teams for the fall and any girls playing high school could not be on those teams in the fall.... but could return to the club after high school season. Remains to be seen if the clubs will allow it.
Regarding the "free" thing...you'll find that the only boys DA clubs that are offering this are the ones that have partnership/sponsorship from a MLS clubJust remember that your daughter has to actually make the team...don't get your panties all bunched up over the rules just yet!
115 Not totally correct bigger boy's DA clubs have players playing for free also. Also people forget as this is an 02 blog your daughter will be competing with 01's next year for a DA roster. They don't necessarily follow the birth year changes. Current Boys DA Age Landscape for 2016/2017:U12 - 04'sU13 - 03'sU14 - 02'sU15 - 01'sU15/U16 - 00's/01'sU17/U18 - 99's/98's
Is this accurate?Thus in fall '17 - first year of girls DA - '01s will be the oldest in their group ('02/'01)Same for '99's ('00/'99) and '03s ('04/'03)Is it mandated that clubs keep a good mix - such that there will be 8-10 slots for the '02s?
1:32Up to the individual club, no blanket statement works here
230 I'm 132 its a fact go ahead and look at the boys DA age groupings if you want. Why would the girls follow the same thing. Yes 2:02 it's accurate. I'm following what our DA club has mentioned already.
So let me get this straight as I have an 03 daughter playing up with 02's if she moves to a DA club next year and makes it she will be considered U14 come Fall of 2017. A little confused as I thought the reason to go birth year changes by the US Federation was to align every thing else up with the identification process why does DA do years like that and combine age years at U15/U16 & U17/U18
DA next year will be 1999/2000, 2001/2002, 2003/2004.
To put those year groupings in graduating class perspective you have:(12th and 11th graders), (11th, 10th, and 9th graders), and (9th, 8th, and 7th graders) in each of the three respective age groupings.
Any opinions good or bad about Next Gen Soccer ? Thanks !
Next Gen: hard to say. Girls side was Meredith, but she left and a new guy has stepped in (won women's premiere league last season). They started off as a Talent Identification program for EDP, created their select teams, and broke off from EDP. Their select teams end up getting showcased a lot (foreign tours, surf cup), but its seems its hard to break through from their Character of Champions into the select team.The training is decent - IMHO better than ODP, but i dont think their select layers participate on the Character of Champions training, so the dedication/competition at the training may be mixed.
NexGen also is just another Money Grab program! Another layer of supplemental training then big payout for (Camps, foreign tours, tournament like Surf Cup). Yes it can be better than ODP training but it doesn't have the exposure from ODP's regional tournament and Camp with collegiate coaches watching at U15 and above. Also foreign tours what's the point of that at this age and it's a 1% chance a player get's recruited at a West Coast School so no point to do Surf Cup. Focus on your club team ask for extra sessions with older teams if you feel you DD needs it.
Thank you both for your opionions . Many valid points . Since our family is not rolling in cash the oversea tours probably wouldn't even be an option for us . I will explore other options . Thank you !
Great we have Granny Nazi, and Money Grab Guy where are the rest of the folks that have been here the last few years. Wildcats Mom, Redhead, PL Guy, GS 4 Life Guy, etc. Nothing against Money Grab Guy but he does give valid points like why travel West when if you look at those rosters of the Cali schools it's a rarity of a player to choose or be chosen to attend a school out there. Makes me wonder why ECNL has holds it events out west.
If you made the NextGen select team, or Region 1 ODP, you are the 1%. Region 1 ODP with all the fees - probably a couple times more expensive.If you are not on a select team, and travel abroad - that's just sports tourism. Not good if you aint got that extra dough.
1008 Great points but again how do you get into the select and region teams by paying dues correct so the Money Grab Guy makes valid points. If your doing NTC monthly monthly and make it to the Regional NTC Combine which is all free, in my opinion those are truly the 1%.
I am the Grammar Granny, not Granny Nazi you putz. As fas as NextGen goes, if you got the money why not? Don’t see it as being super special, but what is, NTC? Kids can go there for years and never make combines, its just extra practice, again, if you don’t mind, its cool.
I think the issue is that you pay the dues and do not make the select team. IMHO, that's the money grab. NTC is the 0.1%. NextGen will tell you that "so and so select team had 3 NTC players" in the money_grab_advert. If you get free training (RTC) - grab it. If you want to see if you can get better training from your club or NextGen or wherever - see if you can attend a session. The training is probably for kids that are 2003 or younger..
One of the best players on our club’s 01 team has gone down with a serious injury, but now I fear that they will call-up my daughter to shore-up the team. I will object to this move, she needs to play her age 02, and be some kind of fill-in for the 01 team, even though she would be a big help to them. Any thoughts?
If the club values development over winning, it would first call up a "B" team player at '01, and if no "B" team, rotate call ups from the '02 team so that more than one player has the opportunity to play with the '01s, but they do not leave the '02s for an extended period of time.
That sounds logical and fair, let’s see what they do....
What are you afraid of?Get her in there vs older players if she has the ability.
ACL injuries are often just freak occurencesBlaming it on overuse is silly
8:55 I am not even going to debate that, since you are beyond the conversation. Do you even have a daughter playing soccer?
8:55Do you drive a white cargo van without windows by chance?
855 is correct. Move on dude, u are boring us.
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