NSA chatter? :)
Championship BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)CASL 01 ECNL (NC)FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)
CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14 (CT)FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)NSA TWISTERS (IL)1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)OAKWOOD SC (CT) ------------------------------MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)PDA AJAX (NJ)WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)YMS BANSHEES (PAE)ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)
CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02 (MA)PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ) -------------------------------------FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE (MA)LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)MCLEAN U14 GIRLS ECNL (VA)SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED FC 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)
BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)CASL 01 LADIES RED (NC)HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)NORTH ATLANTA SA G20 - ELITE (GA) FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)STORM 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)-------------------------- DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC)HFC READY '01 (PAE)REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 01 (FL)ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G (VA) ------------------------------ HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)PIPELINE BLACK (MD)WEST FLORIDA FLAMES 01G ELITE PASCO (FL)FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW)
ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURGUNDY G (NC)RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)RICHMOND STRIKERS U14 ELITE (VA)-------------------------------CONNECTICUT FC UNITED U14 NPL (CT)DMS SOCCER GU14 ACADEMY (NYW)JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)ALBERTSON FURY U14 NPL (NYE)KNOXVILLE FC KFC CRUSH '02 CELTIC (TN)PDA FLORIDA GIRLS BLUE 01-02 (FL)CASL 01 LADIES BLACK (NC)CYA 01G COUGARS (VA)EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)RICHMOND KICKERS U14G ELITE (VA)WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL (NYE)
Poetic justice to PDA DragonsNPL Finals and your own club takes away your GS points so instead of being top 25 via GS and maybe get a better spot they are F4?? PDA Ajax the true #2 it doesn't matter what they do.Of course these might still be preliminary
12:11, this year is 2016. 2017 starts 8/1/16. Girls DA is slated to start 8/1/17 or the 2018 season.
1:55, where did you get that list?
Would be looking at a PDA vs FCV final. Wildcats would also get to avenge last loss to PL. East Meadow and Florida Elite both finish last. 1776 would be the team getting robbed of the F1 berth.
I criticized JeffCup last year for their first attempt at flights (e.g., putting a very poor Richmond United ECNL team in the top flight) but this first attempt looks very good.
CASL v PL finalWhere did these flights come from?
Are u sure that 2017 for dap does not mean the 2017 season?
Are those brackets accurate or an opinion? If they are accurate I'm surprised with a couple that made top flight....
CASL would never get past PDA. If these flights hold true, it would be an excellent job by Jeff Cup official. All of the first three flights are well done.
Lol 2:30. You must be a PL parent. EM and FCV are both superior. Not even sure who Id put money on in the Cats vs PL game.More like PDA/FCV final although EM has the ability to beat FCV.
2:31, soccer wire story said expected to start "Fall of 2017". So assuming that is right, they need a full year to get organized. Makes sense to me.
Mark my words 2:47 and also watch me win the Powerball todayPL parent wannabe
Ajax may actually win this one. No overwhelming favorite in that bracket.
I can’t believe someone spent the time to cut and paste those flights together, terrible job Grandma.
STA and Crush could play FIVE times in the spring
This blog should be separated by stateNJ you can you have your own since no one else exists
Going with Florida Elite in top flightDont think Ajax will final though they could earn points
Stop already, these are not the final brackets, NJ Grandma has been busy, no Bingo tonight Granny??
Florida Elite lost 2-0 to CASL and FCV at WAGS. No way they win that bracket, much less the flight. PL also has no chance. I'll agree with @2:28 except for the 1776 part. Bethesda would be my next choice for top flight.
What about the Florida Elite wins?See the big pictureThey had a GREAT fall season
Florida Elite has always been the bridesmaid and never the bride. They do get to the finals when the brackets are weak, but fold when facing tougher competition.
Are any of the teams they beat in the JeffCup top flight? And what are their big wins? beating the TopHat and CASL B teams? If all a team can brag about is beating PA Classics 2-1, then they should just be quiet.
Florida Elite (Creeks) is Region 3 Finalist, Florida State champ over recent state darling Jacksonville (beat em once, crushed em second time)You cite their only 2 losses since June.And leave out win vs TFA and best teams from Alabama, Mississipi and Tennessee
What is the highest ranked team they've beaten? by what score?Beating up on 3rd and 4th flight teams doesn't mean you're ready to beat real top flight teams, especially when it was only a few months ago that you got your butt handed to you by two of the teams you'll be playing.As to being the Region 3 finalist, so what? FC Frederick won Region 1 and they can't score a goal against top competition.
Aim higher 3:07
Not flight 4, PDA Dragons are in flight 8, Ajax in flight 3. there are 10 flights total all are 8 team brackets except flight 10.
Will do 5:00I'll also play Megamillion
Question - I had heard (maybe on this blog) that there are no gotsoccer points coming for this spring's PDA tourney. Any truth to that? Appreciate any insight
551 Yup you are correct No GS points for Spring Kick Off U14 Invitational- Plus at age u15 it's a showcase umbrella under ECNL. So it doesn't matter anymore to many of those clubs chase points but matters a lot for those who want to be accepted at the older ages for showcasing. Think about it at U15 a club applies to be in the showcase and gets denied why because the prior years you never joined because we didn't give out GS points. Reason why PDA is it's own island away from craziness of fulfilling GS rankings.
I agree with 4:37. The Creek team is a good team, but not good enough to get more than one win in that bracket. The win over TFA is a nice win, but TFA struggled playing against BRYC, PL and Fredrick in the fall. I pick PAC to win their bracket, not allowing a goal along the way.
Albertson - again - much improvedHandles PA Classics, I'd say.
Hey - good one, Jeff Cup fake bracket guy.NSA Twisters? Really?I will let you all know when the brackets really come out
Even if these brackets are fake, they are better than the real ones Jeff puts out. It would be the best 1st and 2nd bracket in three years.
Eh needs tweeked a bit yet. Couple of teams need swapped to/from F1. When are the brackets announced on Twitter like usual? That's when you know they're real.
Not real brackets above. Next Friday at the NSCAA.
Only thing real are the accepted teams...84 of themWebsite currently has 11 divisions allocated to the play. Of course that could changehttp://events.gotsport.com/events/?eventid=46791
F1 wouldn't need to be adjusted, other than possibly PL or Wildcats dropping out of F1. Not much competition for them in F2 though.
Id agree with that.
Yea but both would have a very good chance of winning F2. Neither have any chance of winning F1.
And just to clarify what 8:20 has stated, he thinks that ______________ should not be in the 9th bracket, they should be in F1, just ask my wife...1. They play a very European style of soccer, which looks cool anyway, wins are philosophical discussion.2. They have the name _____________, which instantly gives them a 80/20 fouls against ratio, at games, tournaments, and inter-squad scrimmages.3. We, I mean they, have 2 nice sets of kits, Orange and Light Sky Blue, I, I mean they, prefer the orange I think, just in case someone confuses them for ______________, which isn’t a bad thing, I guess.4. Its a long way to go, and not win.5. “Club” picks-up the costs, that would be a parent.6. We have some hot Mom’s going on.
Keep it coming 9:05, you're very entertaining!
Jersey Shore and FC Copa get robbed again!What are you thinking 7:46? PAC? For real?
7:37 I don't care if they are real or not gives us something to talk about because we know after the NSCAA no one will be talking Jefferson cup until we get tired of talking Girls DA.So I'm going to have fun with it. NJ Wildcats should be replaced with World Class FC ECNL simple pro/rel. PL has owned the NJ Wildcats and I want them in to see how they do vs EM and FCV. I can even see Bethesda ECNL moving up to F1 to replace BRYC
using last year's jefferson Cup ptsCASL 01 ECNL (NC)FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE (FL)PDA STORM ECNL (NJ)EAST MEADOW ECNL HOTSHOTZ (NYE)FC VIRGINIA ECNL U14 (VA)PENN LEGACY 01 BLACK F14 (PAE)F2 32 points WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL (NYE)F2 23 points BETHESDA SC ECNL EXPRESS (MD)------------------------------CFC CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U14 (CT)NSA TWISTERS (IL)RICHMOND UNITED ECNL U14 (VA)F1 9 pts NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)F1 6 pts BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)F1 5 pts CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)F2 23 pts 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)F2 22 pts PDA AJAX (NJ)-------------------------------ALBERTSON FURY U14 ECNL (NYE)CAROLINA ELITE SA 01G ECNL (SC)F2 16 pts PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)F2 14 pts STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ)F2 13 pts FC CAROLINA ALLIANCE GREEN (NC)F2 13 pts PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)F2 13 pts NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)F2 10 pts MARYLAND UNITED FC 01-ECNL (MD)F2 9 pts YMS BANSHEES (PAE)F2 8 pts PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS (NJ)F3 30 pts STORM 01 GIRLS BLACK (SC)F3 28 pts DISCOVERIES SC 01 LADY GOLD PREMIER (SC)------------------------------------FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED 01/02 (MA)F2 5 pts CAROLINA RAPIDS 01 BURGUNDY G (NC)F2 5 pts NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL (NJ)F2 0 pts NJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)F3 22 pts LAKE NORMAN SC 01 ECLIPSE BLUE (NC)F3 21 pts MCLEAN U14 GIRLS ECNL (VA)F3 20 pts FC VIRGINIA UNITED 01 ELITE (VA)F3 20 pts OAKWOOD SC (CT)------------------------------------ISA ATLETICO 01/02 NPL (NYE)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)F3 18 pts PIPELINE BLACK (MD)F3 17 pts HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)F3 14 pts FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)F4 35 pts PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)F4 34 pts UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)-----------------------------------ATLANTA FIRE UNITED G02 ELITE BLACK (GA)F3 12 pts HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)F3 11 pts RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)F3 10 pts BEACH FC 01G RED (VA)F4 27 pts PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE)F4 26 pts VIRGINIA RUSH ELITE 01G (VA)F4 22 pts TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)F4 19 pts FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE (MA)----------------------------------TAMPA BAY UNITED PREMIER GIRLS 01 (FL)SOUTH CAROLINA UNITED FC 01 GIRLS ELITE (SC)SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)NORTH ATLANTA SA G20 - ELITE (GA)F3 5 pts ARLINGTON SA SAMBA RED (VA)F3 1 pt CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (PAE)F3 0 pts CASL 01 LADIES RED (NC)F4 14 pts GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 (MA)------------------------------------HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO (PAE)HFC READY '01 (PAE)REAL NJSC SOUNDERS (NJ)BEADLING SC BEADLING ELITE (PAW)WEST FLORIDA FLAMES 01G ELITE PASCO (FL)F4 2 pts CYA 01G COUGARS (VA)F4 0 pts LOUDOUN 01G RED (VA)F4 o pts RICHMOND KICKERS U14G ELITE (VA)--------------------------------------FC STARS OF MASS NPL (MA)MASSAPEQUA NPL LIL' ROWDIES (NYE)SEVERNA PARK BLACK THUNDER (MD)VICTORY EXPRESS SC PLATINUM U14 (PAW)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)RICHMOND STRIKERS U14 ELITE (VA)JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARS (NYE)-----------------------------------CONNECTICUT FC UNITED U14 NPL (CT)DMS SOCCER GU14 ACADEMY (NYW)ALBERTSON FURY U14 NPL (NYE)KNOXVILLE FC KFC CRUSH '02 CELTIC (TN)PDA FLORIDA GIRLS BLUE 01-02 (FL)CASL 01 LADIES BLACK (NC)FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL (NYE)
11:09 Owned??? Are you serious? Jokes aside they are two pretty even matched teams.Replace BRYC out of those listed? No way. Not before at least 3 others.
While these flights may be preliminary, they're not "fake" as they're showing up on GotSoccer. There might be some tweaking of the teams but except for one major screw-up, this is a very good first attempt, much better than last year. The obvious mistake is NSA Twisters in the 2nd flight. I'm not sure how they even got accepted. How does a team that plays in the third level of the Region II league get into the 2nd flight? My next change would be in the third flight where Richmond ECNL is still a little too high but it's their tournament so it's their choice to have their team outclassed once again.While I think PL will end up beating Wildcats, Wildcats have had the better Fall season so I have no problem with Wildcats in the top flight. World Class has only done ok this Fall - finalist in one tourney but 4th place in their ECNL division - so they have an argument to be in over PL, but it's a toss-up.BRYC has played Bethesda twice, tying them one game and beating them the second time. BRYC also finished above Bethesda in both tournaments they played in together so BRYC gets the nod over Bethesda. PAC vs. Albertson will determine winner of that bracket with my money on Albertson.
Albertson? You mean the Fury West from White Plains? I heard that they are better than the ECNL team : /
12:20 I will use my favorite compare on this board.Ajax vs Dragons since NPL League play startedhead 2 head 1-1-1, both teams won 1-0 and tied 0-0Dragons won NPL flight @u13 Ajax finished 3rd.Ajax leads NPL flight this year with Dragons in 3rd both in line for a post season spot. No difference between the two on any day either can win. However Jefferson prelim has Ajax F3 and Dragons F8. That's a huge difference, so either they are both good or they both stink.
There's no doubt that the Wildcats and PL could be replaced in F1 by better teams. Both are fairly solid teams but can't get past the top ones and won't again if they stay. In F2 they both have a good chance to win as someone earlier said. I'd love to see an underdog win it though! The FCV championship wins (although always by a hair) are getting boring.
It is a toss up between PL, Wildcats and BRYC. I would go back and look up which team did better against the teams they might be facing. I do think at least one of the above mentioned teams moves down to F2.
12:16 Don't you have to beat a team at least once in order to say they are evenly matched?
Wildcats take F1
FC Copa move up to F4 and take that
BRYC doesn't belong in the conversation about teams potentially moving down. They beat CASL and PL head-to-head, and did better against common opponents than Florida Elite (beating CASL and tying FCV). If anyone moves down, and I don't think anyone will, PL is the first choice. I'm still waiting for a good argument for another team to move up to F1, other than PL and Wildcats don't have a chance to win it.
Wildcats just beat BRYC Elite in semi at Bethesda in top flight a month ago. They also beat Bethesda ECNL at same Bethesda tournament last month. Based on recent form then how can Wildcats be relegated to F2 for Bethesda ECNL to move up to F1 in their place?
Bethesda ECNL tied Albertsion ECNL and lost to Wildcats in 2 bracket games at Bethesda event.BRYC Elite beat MatchFit ECNL and Cleveland FC in bracket games then lost to Wildcats in semifinals at Bethesda. Wildcats beat Bethesda ECNL, Albertson ECNL and BRYC Elite at Bethesda Tournament.
2:10 below is how your ECNL teams shape up. 2.78 FC Virginia ECNL U142.20 East Meadow Soccer Club ECNL U142.11 CASL ECNL U142.00 Bethesda SC ECNL U141.82 PDA ECNL U141.73 Maryland United FC ECNL U141.64 Albertson Fury ECNL U141.42 Carolina Elite Soccer Academy ECNL U141.33 Atlanta Fire ECNL U141.13 Connecticut FC ECNL U140.80 Richmond United ECNL U140.73 World Class FC ECNL U140.22 McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U140.00 Continental FC Delco ECNL U14
ECNL blah blah blahGo Averbuch
vs jefferson cup teamsPL0:2 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)6:0 PIPELINE BLACK (MD)6:0 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)5:0 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)3:0 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)3;2 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)2:0 HFC READY '01 (PAE)2;1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)1:0 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)1:0 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)BRYC1:2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)0:1 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)0:0 FC FREDERICK '01 (MD)0:0 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)0:0 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)3:1 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)2:0 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)2:0 MCLEAN YOUTH SOCCER U14ECNL (VA)1:0 BETHESDA SC ACADEMY 2001 BLUE (MD)1:0 CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC)NJ WildcatsNPL1:2 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)6:0 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)6:1 PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)5:0 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)4:1 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)3:0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA (NJ)3:2 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL (NYE)3;2 REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)2:1 BRADDOCK ROAD YC 01 ELITE (VA)2:0 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)2:0 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)1:0 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01 (MD)FLORIDA ELITE 01/02 ELITE0:2 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01 (VA)0:2 CASL 01 CASL ECNL (NC)4:0 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)2:1 PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE)1:0 CAPITAL AREA SOCCER 01 LADIES RED (NC)NOT bad - okay I'm soldPLBRYCNJW NPLjoinFCVEMCASLPDABethesdaFL Elite down to F2
Certainly makes sense to try to reward the teams that had impressive fall campaigns. Since there are a few Connecticut teams mixed in with the Jeff Cup brackets I will simply mention that most if not all of them now have added multiple kids back into their rosters that were ineligible to play during high school season. For the most part it was all 2002's playing in the fall and now the 2001s are back on the rosters. How that shakes out may be a little team specific but I anticipate CFC (Connecticut) United probably will be the most improved by the returning players although Oakwood also upgraded at a few spots and even the non-impact players can provide some depth in a weekend tournament setting.
PL vs Wildcats 2-14-22-21-1No major domination by PL. Previous poster mentioned that Cats just completed a better looking season and I'd agree. So PL first to move down. Bethesda ECNL up. BRYC took FCV to PK's at Wags. Beat PL 2-0. BRYC deserve to remain in F1.
All the listed results for PL vs Wildcats were prior to current U14 year except 2-1 PL win at preseason Spirit Tourney in August.While all U14 results should be considered(and only U14 results, not U12 or U13)hard to argue preseason 1 goal win 6 months ago trumps recent season ending results at premier event like Bethesda Touurney in F1.Teams current form and any demonstrated improvement over course of U14 year thus far should trump all.
Tournament directors put absolutely no weight on results from previous years.Only results from current year are considered.All these teams rosters undergo changes each year, often major changes.
No better example of above than PL, whcih lost 3 impact players to Penn Fusion ECNL between U13 and current U14 year.
I think they should set up a scrimmage prior to Jeff Cup to determine where they should be in what flight? Wildcard game. I know that would certainly help us out. *Jeff Cup Rep.
3:33 (or Wildcat coach) You are right, PL had a horrible fall season. They barely won their fall league with a paltry plus 26 goal differential (if only they hadn't allowed those two goals). Those goals against is why I would leave PL in the first bracket. They never just start giving up bad goals, something the Cats have been guilty of when things go downhill. Even when PL is not playing well, they have a habit of keeping the game close and giving themselves a chance. Good teams don't lose by 3 goals or more in tournaments, unless your playing Cincy (Then you have an excuse). Its why 1776 should never be a F1 team, they just give up after being down 2 goals. Enough talk about those two, the big question is whether East Meadow would win that bracket? I think BRYC was a one trick pony at WAGS and they'll return to the team they showed at Bethesda.
So BRYC won the top local tournament in their area with three ECNL teams in the field, took FCV to PKs in the WAGS final, were only a missed pk from being in the finals at Bethesda, and lost in the semi-finals at Spirit to the 2nd ranked team in the country and you call them a one trick pony. Please tell us what team you're with and how they had a better fall season.
4:10 Yea they won their EDP division. By beating what top teams???? None!
Surprised Boston, NEFC, SS, PF ECNL, and MF ECNL not on the attendance list.
Who's the NFL defending champion 3:53? So what does Spirit and FC Stars use to set their flights? you talk like 25% of a team's roster changes from year to year? if that's true for your team your program is horrible because the assumption is you are losing players. is that message that is sent? 75% of a good team is not really good they were just carried by the 25% that left.That's just away to wipe away bad results. I wish our kids can say their freshman year grades shouldn't count on their transcript if they had a bad year.
I actually think PL is still strong than PF-ECNL that's why PF was scared to come down to Jeff Cup! LOL
The focus for BB, PF, and MF is San Diego.
PL lost impact players?
Great. You got the PL parents worked up people. Here we go...PL you're a good team, you deserve to be in F1, you will win F1. Feel better?
4:23 From FC Uranus. Does anyone on here every say what team they are from? BRYC couldn't even get to the finals in a watered down tournament at Bethesda. The fact that the Wildcats made the finals tells you all you need to know (where they of course lost badly). All I was saying was that it would be better to keep a team F1, if they showed that they can hang with FCV and similar top teams. If not, you become the team that ends up with the ugly minus 5 goal differential.
The big question is can we actually have a Jeff Cup weekend without any rain?
Impact Players Please! If they were Impact Players they wouldn't be look and chasing the other ECNL teams above them in there league. Again a Impact players puts a team on whole other level. To me PF is just above average.
Oh hey again PL parent!
I hope they do stay F1. See how much we hear from them after playing a few of the top teams in the country at Jeff Cup, because they certainly didn't face any in EDP and then there is Spirit and Wags where they couldn't even make the semi finals... This may be the tournament that takes them out of future F1 contention.
5:45So what you are saying is if they were "impact players" they probably wouldn't be spending 90% of the game watching from the bench of an average team?
Ignorance; The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.Synonym: stupidity
6:42PL "failed" to make the quarterfinals at Spirit and WAGS for the same reason Storm and MF ECNL failed to make the quarters at FC Stars and Bethesda, they had a better team in their pool. At Stars Storm lost by 1 goal to BB, same as PL did at Spirit, and at Bethesda MF lost by 2 goals to BRYC, same as PL did at WAGS. 2 losses this fall to 2 excellent teams and it's a failure eh? BTW, what team does your daughter play for?
Denial;a psychological defense mechanism postulated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead
Gotta love the "adults" that bully/attack children on this blog. Says a lot about you.
6:42 I agree this could be the last chance for the PL girls to show well. Unfortunately, with all this change coming from the BYC and the possibility of a DA program being instituted as early as 2017. This years Jeff Cup and the tournaments following will only serve as bragging rights, and even that will be short lived. My hope is that both the Wildcats and PL end up in the same bracket, both our games last year were physical, tough and well played games. Don't think the Penn Fusion comment was a PL parent, we know many of their players from playing indoor tournaments together and they are exceptional. PL Parent
You consider that bullying and attacking? Wow, I hope your kid has thicker skin than you do Mom.
I agree with the comment about impact players. There good, great players but an impact this age is most likely a goalie that prevents 0 GA on 10-15 shots on goal or and forward or attacking mid that scores on average. Those to me are impact players thay help a team to the next level. 90% Playing time does not justify an impact player.Either I hope Jeff Cup places these great NJ/PA teams in the right bracket because I'd rather see good close games v blowouts. I think the next big tourney we need to consider is PDA's spring invitational. Which I bet we some very strong teams from New England area like NEFC, SS, Boston.
So if my kid is an outside back she's not impact? I would've maybe said if your kid is a regular at an NTC, that's an example of an impact player. Guess I'm wrong. Bummer.
I'm sure you kid is an impact player at outside back and at any position she plays. An you are an impact parent without a doubt. You impact those parents around you by driving them as far away from you as possible. Sort of like a snake in the high grass.
Angry blogger alert.
In a few months most teams will be completely different! Worry about your kids training and development. That's all that really matters with the BYC. Lots to talk about in a couple of months!
Its what makes this blog so great! The parental emotion of a helicopter parent going over the edge (not to be confused with Crush Copter parent, he's worse). The Wildcat's coach trying to defend his teams honor. The raw stats put out by GS 4 Life and Soccer Nut's acknowledgment of how great PDA is. The vile spewing back and forth between clubs parents and everyone's love of hot moms(go Boca). The Spell Check Nazi and Mr. Creepy (might be the same person). PL's frigging annoying parents (including PL Parent) and crazed 1776 mom. Then throw in PF's overprotective parent (sounds like a mommy protecting her cub). What a combination of Elitist, Snakes, Whiners, emotional crybabies and cynical jackasses that constitutes the makeup of the blog. I enjoy reading this thing. Thank goodness the administrator has a sense of humor.
Where else can cowards hide behind their words? Pretty much anyone who frequents this blog needs to get a life, including myself, although thankfully I find myself on here less and less as time goes on.
Interesting article. Author is on the board of an ECNL club. I think it would have been stronger if she had acknowledged some of the problems with the ECNL rather than avoiding them. Agree that the lack of information available about this DA does not inspire confidence, particularly after the information released about the age change guidelines was so poorly managed.
Hopefully more info to come regarding DA at the NSCAA next week.
I actually agree with PL Parent, all the spring season is for is bragging rights. A lot of these teams will change next year due to the BYC . Most of us know what our club is going to do next year. I think that smaller clubs might keep teams together as much as they can. I think larger clubs will adhere by the law. Is this blog going to go to a U15 or U16 board next year? Either way that will probably lose half of us.
I think they should create a 15.5 board, keeps things confusing...BTW Our club has not advised on BYC rosters for next fall, but they should by tryouts time, no?
11:05pm"It's" what makes..."Wildcats' coach"..."team's honor""club parents"Spell Check Nazi
At our club we were told information will be coming parents way later this month although I agree with above. Larger clubs (ECNL) will adhere to the changes and divide.
Not adhering to the BYC and trying to keep a team together would hurt the '02 players. If a top '02 girl plays up with '01 but ends up on the bench a lot of the time, she's better off on the '02 teamOf course, the size of the club and rosters are important...I think most teams are close to 50/50 '01/'02 and it all works out in the long run.PL Parent...how many of each on your team?Wildcat coach, how many on your team?
I forgot to ask 1776 Mom and Spell Check Nazi how many of each?
I have heard from a parent on at a large clubs, ECNL , will adhere to the rule.I heard from a parent on at a medium size clubs will adhere to rule some what. There will be more exceptions at these clubs then the ECNL clubs. I heard from a parent on at a small club, 1 to 2 teams per age group, that they will try not to change teams from u15 and up. This could really hurt the small clubs if they must adhere to the rule. I was told there has to be a % of girls on the team with the correct Birth year. I never knew that.
Unofficial leak...LVU/YMS to create partnership U16 (2016-17 season)Tryout 1- 3/20Tryout 2- 3/27Tryout 3- 4/3 by invitation onlyPreparing for girls' DA?
Field time is far more important than playing up if they're sitting the bench more. A top '02 is better off playing age unless she's GNT worthy. In that case field time certainly won't be an issue. Can't be scouted from the bench.
That certainly is a DA coming. Same with PAC. I expect something there is brewing.
Okay, let’s just vote, for an 02 would it be more beneficial to get?A. 60% of game minutes on a u16 team or B. 100% of game minutes on a u15 teamI will be first in this historic YST vote 2016, A.Disclaimer: Since no one can predict the future, lets say that both will be very competitive.
8:48, PAC already has boys' DAAre they partnering with someone?
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"Can't be scouted from the bench". So true, but many are still banking on it.
8:54 A of courseWhen evaluating your players, it is important that you don’t confuse your players’ biological age with their ‘soccer age.’ Each player’s “soccer age” is unique to the individual.
9:02, at least try to be original, stating the obvious is not much of a surprise.
http://www.pennfusion.org/home/903789.htmlIs this :1) PF attempting to obtain DA status2) PF knowing they will miss out on DA status3) nothing to do with DA
8:54 I would vote B, but ask to train with U16s
Why don’t you Penn guys just get together at a truck stop off of Rt 80, and exchange email info. Why are you laughing....
B. More time on the field. Ask any recruiter.
A. She will not improve by playing against equal, or mostly lesser opponents.
9:08-Wildcat coachSunday-Thursday is NJ talk/whining/bsFriday-Saturday is PA talk/clarity/wisdom
If it was obvious why so many still on teams where they are often sitting out events and most of games on bench when they do dress?
9:14Rehearsing D1 career?Obviously poor team placement
With ECNL defiantly B. There's plenty of challenge there on age. Being on the field is #1.
9:06I sent Tino an emailWill see what he repliesNeed tryout dates
PAC has in the past fielded PAC-West teams on both the boys and girls side in order to more easily bridge the Susquehanna River. So, it would not be a surprise if PAC partnered with a club on the west side of the River, which would also open better access to the Baltimore and DC Metro areas. It's an easy drive to Pipeline or FC Frederick from York or Harrisburg.
Tino will have to doWhat is best for Tino himselfAnd U.S. Soccer image
9:52 and sorry NJ peepsWho's on the west side of the river?
If the team is staying together why would a current -02 player playing up to U16 next year "end up on the bench". I think most clubs reorganize and there wont be much playing up, but the '02s is where it might actually make sense to start doing so (first year HS)I wonder if some teams use a hybrid system, take just some of the '02s up, with parental consent.EX: Current U14 with 6 '01s.Those '01s go to U16 next fallOf the 11-12 '02s, 4 otr 5 also go. So we are at 10-11 players. The remainder of the team comes from current U15s who dont want to/are not capable of playing to U17.
10:13An existing '02 player on U14 may be a top player now. U16 then will have "young" existing 01s, U14 now along with the older 01s, existing U15. This is how the benching occurs...young 01s and old '02s, wanting to play up, have to prove themselves against the older girlsmake sense?
I think people forget that it's not about BYC anymore this coming fall it's more about Grad year. The BYC is more attainable for National Recognition as a parent you want to have your child play with the majority of a group that is graduating the same year. Does that make sense?
No it doesn't make sense
No, 10:19Not if the club is keeping the U14 team intactIt will only have younger '01sThat is why I gave the second scenario, where only the BETTER '01s, those who WOULD get the playing time regardless, advance and mix in with - from your example - the younger '01s who had been playing U15Its a very interesting dileemma/discussion for all clubs. Our club has thus far been noncommittal - and by doing so may force some into attending multiple tryouts
sorry - OLDER '01s who had been playing U15....
11:19If team stays intact, that could be high % of girls playing up. Most teams I've seen are 50/50. I can't imagine that would be allowed. I can see 3-4 girls out of 18 playing up...
Lets make sure to remember the clubs are going to do what's best for the clubs financial pockets. A few of the non-profits like PL simply won't care whether their teams are competitive or not, as long as they field teams. But many will try to put the best product on the field, if that means bringing up an playing 02's over 01's, so be it. Those players running around on the field look like girls to us, to the club they are three thousand dollar bills running around.
$3000??? Crazy - what club is that?
9:08 is not wildcats cioach- He is funny though.
12:06PF +Must be PL hater, Wildcats coach...
OMG what are tournaments going to do with BYC they will all be new teams who's D1 now?
12:32Clean slate...rendering GS points obsolete...as they should be
Boston Breakers affiliation with NEFC has nothing to do with Boston Breakers ECNL now FC Boston Scorpions. Check ECNL site name was changed, NEFC is just affiliated with Professional club and Professional did not renew contract with Scorpions club.This will not affect ECNL clubs, these clubs will have not ties to each other.
10:10 - To answer your question: Top five PAE clubs west of the Susquehanna River and south of Blue Mountain (to intentionally exclude North Union) based on composite GS rankings between U12 and U17:HMMS - Cumberland CountyFC York - York CountyKeystone FC - Cumberland CountySouth Central - Adams CountyPanthers United - York CountyPF, PL, PAC, CFC DELCO, and others including the Dauphin County clubs all currently pull in players from across the Susquehanna.
If PF is $3K what's the tuition for a team like PAC?
At PAC its $2000 + 1 average cow, or 2 large sheep....
Only $1K more is worth it for top training and showcase opportunities ECNL gives a player.
12;38 So how would you pick your Jefferson flight if this was the 1st event after BYC??
How could one answer that until we see player movement after tryouts?
1:32 - But you can continue to milk the cow and you can shear the sheep to make the kits, but I bet they would be rather hot during the summer months. Now, if the cow were actually a bull, the club would have a supply of BS to pass around.
How is any tournament going to know the player movement on every team in the country?
Good question. Fall 2016 tournament placements could be a mess.
Is any team really going to differ greatly toward the negative?I woujldnt think soAnd if that happened you'd see it right away, within 6 weeks.Teams that are supposedly placed CORRECTLY get blown out at Stars every year anywayIf teams move toward the positive (red: are placed too low early on), this will also be obvious - and corrected by NEWSS
Yes I know of one solid PA team. Any guesses? I'm sure they'll be others. ECNL will remain strong despite the BYC. That is until DA 2017.
Our U15 team did not attend Stars Cup this past fall, so I am guessing that we will not either, which is a relief since we haven't done well there since U12. Personally, I am not going to miss it, would later watch my kid start her HS Soccer days. She wants to play for her school, and after watching some games, they need her, she will bring stability to their midfield.
One solid PA team = NJ Crush?
If PF doesn't get DA I wonder how long Tino will stick around before he moves on to greener pastures ?
Not quite equal. Close... but not equal.
No, Crush has a way cooler name than the PA teams. If only the uniform had the orange bottle on it with some orange socks. PL's ability to remain a good team or possibly its demise really depends upon the route its 02's. Their 02's are the core strength of team and make up the majority of their best players. That group will make some club very happy. Not sure if PL's cheap club fees will be enough to convince those parents to stay. PAC is a much better value and just as close.
If true, PL players would stay and just become a strong U15 side
2:04 unless they say past results matter (rolling 12 months like GS) turnover or no turnover everyone is in the same boat.The next big tournament after this will be Delco, Needham Invitational and PDA Showcase for the teams invited.PDA kickoff will be dead by their own actions moving away from GS the teams that need them won't be showing up.MSC Kickoff is not even in the news - if those guys were smart they should have published their applied list at least this way you keep people talking about the event if they were secure.I can't think of any other major Spring events so the EDP events will probably do really good this year
I'm back with a different spin on jefferson flights.below is the league the teams play in their Jefferson Flight and league Placement.Some really strange observations.CCL 1st place is in F6 and EDP D2 North 1st place team is F4 -Very interestingAlso D1 North 1st place team in F4 while 2nd place team in F2 after finishing in last place last year in D3 at jefferson.PAGS 8th place team is F6 while 1st place team not accepted and 2nd place team is F11 3rd and 4th place teams are F3. These can't be true flights. Will break down ECNL and NPL next.I hope this makes life easier for the jefferson people.Club Champions LeagueF6 1st Beach FCF2 2nd FC FrederickF1 3rd BRYCF9 4th Arlington F5 5th Loudoun PAGSN/A 1st LDC UNITED Attack F11 2nd PENN UTD FORCE FC '01 F3 3rd PA CLASSICS Academy 01F3 4th YMS Banshees F8 5th HMMS Eagle FC Spirit F6 8th HULMEVILLE DynamoEDP D1 NorthF4 1st TSF ACADEMY 01/02GF2 2nd NJ WILDCATS GALAXYF9 3rd RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 F11 4th HBC SPARKEDP D1 CentralF1 1st NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPLF4 2nd NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE F4 3rd LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS F5 4th UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK F7 5th REAL SOUNDERS F9 7th PDA SHORE FUSION F10 8th FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA EDP D1 SouthF1 1st PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACKF2 2nd 1776 UNITED FC XTREMEF7 3rd HFC READY '01F6 4th HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER F3 5th CESC CALVERT CREW WHITEF9 6th RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA F8 7th PIPELINE BLACK F10 8th JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION EDP D2 NorthF4 1st SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT
PAC and Harford should each be up one bracket. Harford's not a great team, but they don't give up goals. 1776 and Galaxy are right where they should be. There was no question about the Wildcat's, they deserve to be F1. I'm taking that Penn United is listed as F1 (that would be a joke) and their coach would only be there for the first 10 minutes of the tournament anyway. If the Ukranians are F4, how can a team like Boca not be a F5 team? Boca might actually be the better team.
This next group has me scratching my head - these are all NPL teams. The team that advanced to the NPL Finals final 4 is F8 they are 3rd in the league and are 4 flights below PF who is in 7th place in the league. This team lost to NEFC by 3 fewer goals than Oakwood who is F2 and has the same league placement as PWS who's in a weaker VA NPL. Which brings me to Crush they are 1st in their NPL and get a F5 for this while Ajax who is also in 1st gets F3 and Oakwood is F2 and they are in 2nd place.12:10 If we don't use GS and we don't use league placement? How can you say what you said? Have you ever seen the NC, SC, GA & FL teams play more than once? The teams don't play a balanced schedule that would be impossible GS4 Life
New England Girls NPLF2 2nd OAKWOOD SCF2 6th GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 NPL Virginia F6 1st FC VIRGINIA F7 2nd VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB F4 3rd PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER F10 5th CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION F10 7th RICHMOND KICKERS F9 9th RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB NYCSL NPLF5 1st NJ Crush FC NPL-01F5 2nd STA NPL-01 F6 3rd Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01F8 4th Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01F9 6th New York Soccer Club NPL-01Northeast Girls NPLF3 1st PDA South 01 NPL AJAXF8 3rd PDA North 01 NPL DRAGONSF10 4th World Class FC 01 NPF11 5th FC Boston 01 NPLF10 6th East Meadow SC 01 NPLF4 7th Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL F8 9th FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL F10 11th Connecticut FC 01 NPLF10 13th Albertson SC 01 NPL
My final post on this - a different way to view things League Placement and their Jefferson Flights 1st PlaceF1 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL - EDP Central D1F1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK - EDP South D1F3 PDA South 01 NPL AJAX - NEG NPLF4 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G - EDP North D1F4 SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT - EDP North D2F5 1st NJ Crush FC NPL-01 - NYCSL NPLF6 Beach FC - Club Champions LeagueF6 FC VIRGINIA - VA NPL2nd PlaceF2 1776 UNITED FC XTREME - EDP South D1F2 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY - EDP North D1F2 FC Frederick - CCLF2 2nd OAKWOOD SC - NE NPLF4 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE -EDP Central D1F5 STA NPL-01 - NYCSL NPLF7 VIRGINIA RUSH ATHLETIC CLUB - VA NPLF11 PENN UTD FORCE FC '01 - PAGS3rd PlaceF1 BRYC - CCLF3 PA CLASSICS Academy 01 - PAGSF4 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS - EDP Central D1F4 PRINCE WILLIAM SOCCER - VA NPLF6 Intense Soccer Academy NPL-01 - NYCSL NPLF7 HFC READY '01 - EDP South D1F8 PDA North 01 NPL DRAGONS - NEG NPLF9 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 -EDP North D14th PlaceF3 YMS Banshees - PAGSF5 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK -EDP Central D1F6 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER - EDP South D1F8 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01 - NYCSL NPLF9 Arlington - CCLF10 World Class FC 01 NPL - NEG NPLF11 HBC SPARK - EDP North D15th PlaceF3 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE - EDP South D1F5 Loudoun - CCLF7 REAL SOUNDERS -EDP Central D1F8 HMMS Eagle FC Spirit - PAGSF10 CHANTILLY YOUTH ASSOCIATION - VA NPLF11 FC Boston 01 NPL -NEG NPL6thF2 GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 01/02 - NE NPLF9 New York Soccer Club NPL-01 - NYCSL NPLF9 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA - EDP South D1F10 East Meadow SC 01 NPL - NEG NPL7thF4 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL - PEG NPLF8 PIPELINE BLACK - EDP South D1F9 PDA SHORE FUSION - EDP Central D1F10 RICHMOND KICKERS - VA NPL8thF6 HULMEVILLE Dynamo - PAGSF10 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION - EDP South D1F10 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL LIMA -EDP Central D19th placeF8 FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL - PEG NPLF9 RICHMOND STRIKERS SOCCER CLUB - VA NPLSelection Processteam historyresults results against other teams in the application pool.placement in state, regional, and national competitionsteam makeupother events of acceptancerankingsIt's obvious they don't use this criteria - but it does sound great. I know this for a fact as I have posted results for a few years now. I guess that's why i get confused with so many teams I might know their results better than the parents on those teams - VERY SAD - I NEED a new HOBBY.
We all need hobbies. May not see it the same way, but its a great reference point.
TSF always good in league play but has had weak tourney reulsts and not strong state cup runs recently.Crush and STA are in F5 becasue of weak league play but has had some good state cup runs and that is factored in of course.PDA Ajax strong results only in weak league but consistenly poor in F1 results at these events and looks like that has caught up to them even with PDA moniker giving them benefit of the doubt in past flighting.j Clearkly NE-NPL League is geting zero respect from Flight coordinators now after Bethesda disaster.BRYC is 3rd in CCL true but that does not account for their strong showing in F1 of major events over last year.Wildcats Galaxy getting F2 is more a result of their winning F2 at recent WAGS event that offsets their poor league results this fall.
2:12 would love to debate - but first I need to understand you are putting more weight on games played over a weekend (with guests or not) over league play correct?TSF beat NJW Galaxy straight up in league play -what's to say TSF wouldn't have done the same thing in the same event? Which State Cup just the Fall 2015? Which league has more than 4 teams that are solid?CCL? I see just BRYCPAGS? I see just PAC and YMSEDP N1? TSF, NJW Galaxy, NJCSAEDP C1? NJW NPL, LVU, NJ RushEDP S1? PL, 1776NE NPL? NEFC, OakwoodVA NPL? FCVNYCSL NPL? Crush, STA, ISA, NEG NPL? Ajax, Dragons, MF NPLThey are all the same not one is lights out. You can't use RCL or any of the State Cups besides NJ because that's U13 and we don't use those right?
So basically if you played in WAGS or Bethesda is all that counts correct?You can't use Spirit and Stars as that is the Pre-Season just like Jefferson and MSC are the pre-season spring events.If we can't use NCS, NPL Finals, Jefferson, PDA & Delco from u13 howin the world do you flight teams from other STATES? How do they come into play? We can't use GS because leagues/teams have figured out how to work the system.What criteria are we using for this debate?
I think you have to use the body of work from spring 2015 to present. Show me what team has made drastic stride forwards or backwards since then? BRYC has probably shown the biggest improvement and that was really only seen at Wags. Other than Galaxy, which NJ teams have really made a big leap since last spring? Has any of the ECNL standings changed much or has PDA dropped off at all? Of the PA teams, PF still looks like a middle of the pack ECNL team (like they did last year). PAC, PL and 1776 finished in their leagues exactly as they have before. Although PAC looks as though they have crested and might be heading on a downward trend. Has anything really changed for NY soccer either? other than maybe on that strange little island?
Agree use both league and tournaments as well as state cup.I was just saying league results alone are not used as only basis.Especially since tournament results are the only criteria that has many of these teams from different leagues playing each other.Teams results in recent tournaments vs results of teams they are being considered with in recent tournaments for purposes flighting is a big part of the analysis.Especially the teams results in their flights in deciding proper flighting for Jeff cup.League results alone will not give you this comparison.Agree head to head results in ANY recent games should be a big part of separation for flighting of those 2 teams. Cannot see going back to U12 or U13 results as meaningful in any way.
3:35Your nonsense sounds like Charlie Browns teacher to the blog. Save it.
Looking back at results prior to U14 is senseless.
I like Charlie Brown
Check out 2014 article regarding DAwww.socceramerica.com/article/56234/development-academy-players-hit-roadblock.html
How strong is EDP when you have a D2 team in F4.SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)Even EDP D2 is stronger than North East Girls NPL according to a major tournament.
It looks like those Jeff brackets really are preliminary, in which case I am going to throw-up. Logistically speaking, what can a club do to move their team(s) up in the flights, is there a process that actually succeeds?
Finish in the top three of your league. Don't suck in the previous tournaments and your team will either gain ground or at least stay even . Sounds pretty simple. If your club has your team playing in "B" leagues, parents need to bitch about it until the club does something. Obviously the tournaments are not acknowledging PAGS or NPL, so success in those leagues means very little. It does appear that older NPL post from the fall was correct, NPL is equal to PAGS and that how Jeff sees it too. Looks like PF not attending is the only reason PL has managed to stay F1. Thank you notes should be sent out.
Are you kidding me with PAGS - PAC & YMS are your best teams and they are not top teams in the state as much as the posters on this board want you to think that. They both finished in 3rd and 4th and opted to miss out on the league's playoffs. having said that you can say what you want about the NPL leagues but the FINALS were the real deal.
11:19Interesting how you think PL would drop to F2 sooner than the Wildcats who they beat in the last 2 meetings, wishful thinking on your part I guess? And BTW, Thanks to two incredible pickups PL is a better team now than they were last year, PF is not. And we know what happened last time the two teams met. But if you want a thank you note I will gladly send you one! But it won't be for avoiding Jeff Cup, the girls could have used a good warmup game before their rematch with FCV.11:56That's the point. The 3rd place team in PAGs beat up on the best team in NE NPL. Neither league is any good!
As much as some people here want to say that last years results are irrelevant are any of these teams that much different? If the same 8 teams played F1 again this year do you really think the standings would change much. What teams are noticeably different for better or worse?
What team did the PL pickups come from?Was this midseason, as in since fall ended?
So, is it the covbentional wisdom that last yesar's placement and results at Jeff Cup matter little to this year's flighting?Sp then....... what exactly, aside from current league placement - are they going on?We know it is not simply an "ECNL gets highest bracket", since we have seen the lesser ECNLs down low in flight in the pasts, for example -take a team like Oakwood -they were around 5th flight last year and did not final. They are trailing in their league, though playing fairly wellHow would they then get second of third flight?RE: the preliminary flihgt
HMMS, no beginning of fall. 2 former HMMS players went to LDC this fall and can be credited with much of their vast improvement, 2( 1 regional team) went to PL and made an immediate impact, 1 went to PF and is also a solid contributed to that squad. How HMMS didn't do better last year with those 5 is baffling.
Many social, school, and past-team connections between the PL, LDC, and HMMS '02s (current 14s and 13s). The BYC shuffle could yield interesting results.
interesting part is that HMMS, PL, LDC, FC Revs and Ukrainians were similar in stature when they were 8v8.
PL and Wildcats only played once so far tis year at u14, a 2-1 win by PL at Spirit back in august.
wildcat coach, please stop with that same tired argument. No one is disputing you have a good team. Until you beat PL, it doesn't matter. But if Jeff officials were making a decision just by looking at head to head competition since going U14, who goes F1 and who doesn't? I'm sure it will be a great game at Jeff and your girls should have plenty of incentive.
The 4 games we (PL) have played against the cats have been great, much respect for that squad. But if it's all the same I would rather be playing Storm, CASL, and EM. If we are going to travel 8 hrs, I'd like to play teams we would rarely get to play otherwise. We can set up a friendly with the cats anytime back home.
To the PL parent on here 24/7 who is so completely clueless it's comical, you write the same uneducated posts over and over. Your life must be very empty.
12:19 I would expect better research if you are going to make that argument sloppy work.Since you said "That's the point. The 3rd place team in PAGs beat up on the best team in NE NPL"The 12th Place and 7th place NorthEast NPL teams played the #1 PAGS team LDC UNITED ATTACK to a close game.7th Place - PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE) = 0-112th Place - FC BUCKS SHOCKERS (PAE) = 1-0Wait and YMS struggled with the #7 team twiceYARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER BANSHEES7th Place - PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE) = 4-37th Place - PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (PAE) = 0-1Beat a team 3-0 once okay do it a second time and I say that team is better.But you sound like you have seen all the teams to make such a claim.
Well 5:29, 12:19 is in fact the clueless PL parent so expect no less than sloppy uneducated posts.
It certainly would be nice to see this boards quality improve. I have been told that players (unfortunately) know about this blog. Sometimes I'll read a post that's so childish I assume it has to be a kid. Then again some of these kids are more mature than their parents so who knows.
First I have in fact seen every team you mentioned, so thanks for asking! I put no stock in the West Chester Summer Classic scores, it's a summer tournament and I think the consensus on this blog is that those tournament results are meaningless. Very few match ups between PAGS and NE NPL this fall. LDC over FC Bucks NPL, YMS over PF NPL, PA Classics over PDA NPL(south). So that's 3-0 for PAGS right? I'll throw in a win by YMS over Albertson ECNL(that would be the A team in case you are having trouble following). As watered down as PAGS has become it's still better than the B league NE NPL. And clueless or not it seems the Jeff Cup officials agree. NPL #1 in the same bracket as PAGS #3&4, NE NPL #3 in the same bracket as PAGS #5.
Please stop bringing up results from U12 and u13 it's really ridiculous.
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