11v11 not looking very strong at Region1 Championships.Storm win 8-0, FSA win 7-0, Sachem win 4-0.the 8v8 bracket looks a lot tighter. PA's Ukranian Nationals dropped 1st game 1-2.No scores posted at the Mid-Atlantic Regionals yet.Nest year the US Club State champs go directly to Nationals and the Winners of the OPEN Regionals also join them. While over on the USYSA side the winners of the State Cups go to regionals and from there can qualify for Nationals and Nationals league.All the fun starts in about another Month. Enjoy the summer and play hard for the girls playing.
Is the format set where Storm/FDA/sachem will play each other?
PDA loses today 1-0 to FSA CT. This tournament is a joke. NO matter what PDA will plays in semi's.
Our NPL Winners - Good Luck to all the GirlsU13Eastern Development League FC CopaNew York Club Soccer League NEFCNortheast Girls NPL Match Fit Academy FC U-14 GIRLS:Eastern Development League New Jersey StallionsNew York Club Soccer League NEFCNortheast Girls NPL FC Stars of Massachusetts U-15 GIRLS:Eastern Development League Jersey UnitedNew York Club Soccer League NEFCNortheast Girls NPL PDA U-16 GIRLS:Eastern Development League New Jersey StallionsNew York Club Soccer League Oakwood SCNortheast Girls NPL Connecticut FCU-17 GIRLS:Eastern Development League TSF AcademyNew York Club Soccer League New York RushNortheast Girls NPL PDA U-18 GIRLS:Eastern Development League Maryland RushNew York Club Soccer League TBDNortheast Girls NPL Match Fit Academy
Region 1 Finals below are the reams that still have a shotu12Storm will play 2nd place team in their flight.FSA Navy will play Sachem with the winners playing each other.u13AMERICANS SC BLUE BLAZE (NJ) with a win can advance.u14 PA StrikersNEFC NPLYMS/Quickstrike/FSA Navyu15NEFC NPLDE RushBeachside CTNJ Rush NPLu16Nj Rush NPLBrentwoodu17YMSToms River/NEFC NPLGood Luck Girls
ECNLu14NO NJ/NY/PA teamsu18PDA vs Michigan Hawks in Final.Teams that can advance to Finals in Richmond VA from Seattle WAu15PDA/PennFusionu16PDA/FC Starsu17MatchFit/PDA/FC Stars
How NJ Clubs did sending teams to the Finals. ECNLPDA sends 5 teams to Finals?MF sends 1 team to Finals.NPLPDA sends 2 teamsNJ Stallions sends 2 teamsMF sends 2 teamsTSF sends 1 teamJersey United send 1 teamFC Copa sends 1 teamRegion 1NJ Rush sends 2 teamsPDA sends 1 teamAmericans sends 1 teamToms River sens 1 team
Spirit United Team breakdown so far for Girls U13.I am very curious to see how much a PA event values their teams playing 11v11 when it comes to making these flights. I'm sure what ever they come up with will be fair, I am just cuious.ECNLPenn Fusion SANPL NE GirlsPenn Fusion SANPL EDLFC Copa AcademyNJ WildcatsSouth Jersey Elite BaronsNJRAGE FC PremierStronghold SCOHCrew Juniros Gold WestOP Fire Red 02/03CanadaOshawa Kicks SCNYWDoug Miller SoccerGreater Binghamton FCNYEeast islip lightningMDPipeline SCDEDE Rush '01DE Rush Black '01PA1776 UnitedPenn Legacy FCYardley Makefield SoccerPA Classics Academy 01HMMSRage SCLower Merion SCVincent United F.C.Continental FCFCE ForceFC York '01 EliteHFCLower MacungieRadnor SCSouth Parkland YAWarrington Soccer Club
Match Fit has U18 team already heading to Finals for US Youth. add to list
U18 PdA Slammers win National ECNL championship.Best team in the nation at the youth Soccer level.
THANK YOU - NYCSL NPL - for always being a step ahead of our NPLs.Girls U13 NPL1 Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-012 Intense Soccer Academy NPL-013 Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-014 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-015 New York Rush NPL-016 Quickstrike FC NPL-017 NJ Crush FC NPL-018 Parsippany Soccer Club NPL-019 New York Soccer Club NPL-0110 STA NPL-01My favorites based on u12 results NJ CrushNYSCSTAWho else do you think can challenge to represent NYCSL at the u13 NPL Finals in 2015
Looks like EDL NPL page needs to be updated again. Assuming they don't add anyone below are the 10 Clubs.1 FC Copa Academy (NJ)2 Jersey United Spartans (NJ)3 Lehigh Valley United (PA)4 Maryland Rush (MD)5 New Jersey Rush (NJ)6 NJ Stallions Academy (NJ)7 NJ Wildcats (NJ)8 Smithtown Kickers SC (NY)9 South Jersey Elite Barons (NJ)10 TSF Academy (NJ)My favorites:NJ WildcatsLVU
They killed a team and lost to the #1 Team in CT 1-0. So your are calling them a disgrace because they tied Sachem 2-2? PS. Look at the 8v8 flight- not bad - Let me guess iStorm is to blame because Nj plays 11v11 - of course.PSS. I do agree with you that US Club soccer will pass Region 1.But if we were to Compare Region 1 11v11 flight the US Club Soccer Mid-Atlantic Flight - Region1 still wins even though it's a joke in your eyes.
Every team playing Region 1 is VERY Weak only team that I can say is a good club is FSA. NOT A TOP TEAM. PDA to win one, lose one and a TIE. is a disgrace. PERIOD
WHY Do you care?
Region 1 11v11 Flight is still much stronger than Mid-Atlantic US Club Soccer flightCENTURY UNITED FC PDA AjaxFC COPANJSA 04NEW YORK SOCCER CLUBATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY
All I hear is PDA is this, PDA that. How great this team is. How we are going to walk all over these teams.This team is a joke, Yes I am friendly with those parents and I tell them this as well
I wouldn't call them a joke.Still one of better teams in NJThey will probably end up winning regionals in the end. If not , PDA will have to look at what they have and reevaluate what they need for this team to be successful at the highest level.
10:00 you make me laugh,I'm not at regionals , but obviously you aren't either.
10:00 you do realize they are talking about their kids? right?When you say PDA this and PDA that - is it Club or Storm?Regardless - It sounds like you feel the same way about your kids team, but as 10:34 said you need to win your State tournament to play at the USYSA Regional. This isn't the US Club Soccer Regional where it is an open application.All this hate, but I guess you keep the board going by design or not. Great for the board for it's traffic (see I posted a reply to your post).
If PDA wins Region 1, is this an accomplishment? I have to say no, 4 teams make semi's out of 6. Not much to brag about after seeing their results
I believe the accomplishment is that you have to get there first and only one team got there. Then you play whats in front of you. If you win, then you climbed the mountain. are these the best teams in region 1-of course not, but the team survived, starting from state cup and won it all.I wouldn't mind it being my daughters team.
8:24 I agree the accomplishment is winning your state's event to qualify for the regional. This not an open event. Who plays 8v8 or 11v11 is not in your control, the format they use is not in your control - all you can do is play your games and if the girls play they can say they were Full Sided - NJYSA State Champions and Region 1 State champions during the 2013-2014 season. I would also be very happy if my kid did both, wouldn't you 8:15? Or would you tell your kid - you're not the champs you didn't beat any good teams in my opinion.
Actually, winning NJYSA State Champs in my opinion is great if all teams joined. Not the case here.Next hearing how PDA should not attend as the teams attending are not worth while. No competition. Well how did that go?
Are storm's new players at the region 1 tournament?
Honestly I am not sure what your point is on the matter.PDA is a great club, very competitive. If this team follows in the same steps as other teams they will be one of the strongest teams in the nation.Girls may change a bit including possibly your daughter be playing for this team.So what,s your point. This is u12 soccer and the current group of girls are enjoying the ride.I would say the same about Matchfit or any other high level team.
PDA is the best club not only in NJ maybe country Not even close with teams year in and year out
2014 US Youth Soccer Region I Championships11v11 Semi Finals11 PDA Storm (NJ)0 RI STRIKERS FC 01/02G (RI)0 FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (CT)1 SACHEM SPEED (NYE)Nat. Cup XIII Mid-Atlantic RegionalGroup Play3 CENTURY UNITED UNDER 12 GIRLS ELITE0 Atlantic United Avalanche0 NYSC G012 PDA AJAX4 NJSA GALAXY 01/021 FC Copa Lima
Say what you want about the club.They will expose their kids to high level Regional/National Competition. What comes from that is up to the kids.=============================ECNL PDA u14 eliminated in National Semi-FinalsPDA u15 Qualified for FinalsPDA u16 Qualified for FinalsPDA u17 Qualified for FinalsPDA u18 NATIONAL Champions.===============================NPLu15 Qualified for NPL Finalsu17 Qualifed for NPL Finals===============================Region 1 Premier Leagueu16 PDA North 3rd place out of 8===============================Region 1 Colonial Leagueu15 Red Flight - 4th place out of 8 teamsu17 Red Flight - 6th Place out of 8
In other words they will have 7 of their u14-u18 teams playing for a National Title.2 Down 1 Title, 5 more left to playu15 ECNL & NPLu16 ECNLu17 ECNL & NPL
Let's go hate on them - just like people hate on the NY Yankees
How is matchfit doing?How many of their teams made it thru?Do any other clubs in the country have this many teams going thru to finals?
PDA is obviously the best, why even argue, just google it, see what experts say about them that are not regionalized.
Look out for Sta npl, they looked good yesterday. Great ball movement, and good skills. Team to watch this fall, may shock a few
11-0. Now that's a joke, and classless. Where is the sportsmanship? How can a State Cup Champion lose 11-0? That is insane.
Sta? Look good against who????? Come on get real
Come on Storm get with the program. You are not allowed to win by a 1-0 score line or an 11-0 scoreline - heck you are just not allowed to win, because we will find something on you.Do you think STA can contend for a NYCSL NPL title and play for a National Title next summer?Girls U13 NPL1 NJ Crush FC NPL-012 New York Soccer Club NPL-013 STA NPL-014 Intense Soccer Academy NPL-015 Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-016 Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-017 New York Rush NPL-018 Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01 9 Quickstrike FC NPL-0110 Parsippany Soccer Club NPL-01
Nat. Cup XIII Mid-Atlantic RegionalGroup Play3 CENTURY UNITED UNDER 12 GIRLS ELITE0 Atlantic United Avalanche0 NYSC G012 PDA AJAX4 NJSA GALAXY 01/021 FC Copa Lima=========================0 NJSA GALAXY 01/02 7 PDA AJAX P4 NYSC G01 5 CENTURY UNITED UNDER 12 GIRLS ELITE2 Atlantic United AVALANCHE1 FC Copa Lima
Wow. PDA Ajax beat new NJSA Galaxy Team 7-0!!!I guess they won't be contending quite yet.
PDA AJax is a good solid team.. This will be the team that will shine in the NPL. Wildcats, NJX and Ajax will be the non ecnl teams to beat.
This age bracket's ECNL flight is projected to have a MAX pt value of 10,000 with current GS Point values:2 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY ECNL8 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ9 PDA STORM14 FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY17 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL29 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON56 FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/0258 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (LADY FALCONS)65 CFC WEST ORANGE75 ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED313 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01602 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL
The NE NPL looks to have a NICE flight value as well: 8,000 for the winner.5 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC21 PDA AJAX57 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED69 CFC ARSENAL SKY95 FSA FC U12 GIRLS WHITE99 PDA DRAGONS113 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM139 EAST MEADOW SKY BLUE176 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY NPL526 ALBERTSON 2001 FURY BLUE589 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL811 CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '01F NPL2099 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED SOCCER NPL
I'm not sure if this all the NYCSL NPL teams, but this is what their website has and the projected flight value is 6,00024 NEW YORK SC G0141 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI126 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01160 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE203 PARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPL230 BRENTWOOD (FORMERLY EAST ISLIP) DYNAMITE238 MASSAPEQUA HURRICANES442 ISA 01 NPL683 QUICKSTRIKE FC 02'S2097 NEW YORK RUSH PATRIOTS 2002
And the EDL NPL has a projected flight value with these teams 0f 5,50018 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH71 TSF ACADEMY 01/0290 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS213 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE234 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA314 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01538 MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G1612 SMITHTOWN STARSN/A NJ STALLIONS ACADEMYN/A JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS
And Don't forget if any of these teams also do EDP to qualify for the USYSA Regional/National events - I'm sure there will be a lot of points there as well.Lots of GS points for League Play - like it should be.
Crush may not be playing NYCSL
11:36 You know better than me, I'm just going by the League web page.
11v11 Region 1 ChampionBelow Breakdown of GS points + whatever bonus points they get.Sachem 3,820 if they win1,910 if they losePDA Storm274 if the win137 if they lose.As you can see GS does not reward teams for just playing GS events to collect points. The only way you get points is if strong teams or successful teams apply for the the same event. YES, you have to beat good teams to get points. You can play 10 events like the one storm just played and they would accumulate less than what they would get for finishing as a semi-finalist at Delco, Jefferson or PDA. Hate GS all that you want but with more leagues being included the picture will become clearer in the months to come. The next big event looks like SPIRIT in PA, they were the only ones that put up an applied list. So for teams looking for GS points and good competition, PA might be the place to be in August
Current Spirit Applied ListECNLPenn Fusion SAFC Stars of MassachusettsNE NPLPenn Fusion SAEDPPipeline SCRAGE FC PremierSouth Jersey Elite BaronsNJ WildcatsFC Copa AcademyNew JerseyStronghold SCNew York WestDoug Miller SoccerGreater Binghamton FCMarylandHarford FC UnitedPHWM SCVirginiaFredericksburg Area SAOhio SouthCrew Juniros Gold WestOhio NorthOP Fire Soccer ClubCanadaOshawa Kicks SCDelawareDelaware RushNew York Easteast islip soccer clubPennsylvania EastVincent United F.C.1776 UnitedCheltenham SportsContinental FCFCE ForceFC YorkHFCHMMSHulmeville SCLower Macungie YALower Merion SCPA Classics Academy 01Penn Legacy FCRadnor SCRage SCSouth Parkland YAWarrington Soccer ClubYardley Makefield Soccer
If the score is correct - congrats to Sachem for their Region 1 Championship WIN over PDA Storm 1-0. The win should put them at #7 in NYE.
"Look out for Sta npl, they looked good yesterday. Great ball movement, and good skills. Team to watch this fall, may shock a few"Really?Saw them play in Neptune, they got shut out 3-0 by the new NJSA Galaxy team.
For Sachem, this was a great event by getting wins over PDA Storm and FSA Navy and also a tie vs PDA storm.Where does this put Sachem in NYE talk now? Using GS their record is below:W = 24T = 2L =4GF = 84GA = 19
9:58 why would you say that? Just because you saw them get shutout means they don't move the ball well and don't have good skills? Maybe they had a bad day. The great PDA Storm got shutout by Sachem today 1-0 and they tied Sachem the other day 2-2. This is the same Sachem team that Ajax beat 3-1 at Delco. So what exactly does that mean? How do these results come into play when someone is saying a team plays well and moves the ball well and the kids have some good skills?So besides the 3-0 scoreline how did they play? Did they try to move the ball, do the girls have good foot skills?
This PDA team lost to two good teams. But they certainly weren't great
Njsa beat the STA white team which is the B teamThey are referring above to STA A team or NPL team
More than half the teams in the ne npl shouldnt even be playing in it. More than half are slightly better than average town teams. Bunch of suckers driving a long way for poor competition and alot of money
"More than half the teams in the ne npl shouldnt even be playing in it. More than half are slightly better than average town teams. Bunch of suckers driving a long way for poor competition and alot of money"Translation: Some good players left my daughter's town team to go play NPL, and I am upset about it.
11:16 Maybe you are right - any you are not a sucker either by choice or by your kid being removed from a roster - not important which it is. You thing the NE NPL is poor.I on the other hand like it and think it's a step in the right direction. Making league games count. Giving the kids a chance to train hard during the week and something to measure their success with. Let's look at the PA teams very weak, but what's to say they will be at u14 or u15. Look at Soccer + in CT didn't field strong teams, but they merged with FSA and now have a much bigger pool of players to field a strong ECNL and NE NPL Team. Looking at MA, CT and NJ you have 7 strong teams. The NY teams are okay and the PA teams need some work. This may also be because NY and PA may not have bought into the US Club Soccer vision. Which is fine as well, I guess.I think we need one path in our country with a true pyramid for soccer. Instead we have many and it just complicates matters. I will use the US CLub soccer model.Their Pyramid:Tier 1 ECNLTier 2 NPLTier 3 PLTier 4 Local TravelTier 5 RecreationalThis is a clear path, yes I understand some don't like it because it's a closed system. But it's a step in the right direction as a players gets better they move up the pyramid.and in a perfect world this pyramid can become part of the USSF pyramid as Tier 5 with players moving up to Tier 4 W-20Tier 3 WPSLTier 2 W-LegueTier 1 NWSLIt's a clear path for kids. SO instead of just knocking something give it some time, this is Year 4 I think for ECNL and year 2 for NPL (Girls), year 1 for NE Girls NPL
"Where does that put Sachem now?"Wherever Gotsoccer has them. Then make a case for adjustment.Their schedule sure hasnt been tough prior to this summer.
NJSA Galaxy lost 7-0? Wow. Wasn't expecting that after all the talk of how good they were going to be. I guess the players who went elsewhere made a great decision.
Aside from Howard, Demarcus Beasley and Andre Yedlin delivered exciting performances today.
Go back to 8:54am and 10:52am on june 18th and they predicted NJSA Galaxy was going to be vying for top 5 in NJ with PDA Ajax, Crush, Wildcats, and NJX, all proven top 5 teams and we were asked who among those named including Galaxy, would be considered for top 3. Then also quoted they will be very tough team this year give them their due.After 0-7 shellacking vs first top 5 team they faced in Ajax what do you figure you are due?Where do you feel you should be ranked now based on that result?Still in the conversation?You should have heeded the advice to keep silent until you at least played some games.
NJ top 51. Match Fit Black2. NJX Celtic3. PDA Storm4. PDA Ajax5. CrushGood Luck to Black at NPL FinalsTeams I am looking forward to see next year are the Dragons (added many players) and the MF Black (Added many players)
It will be interesting watching the two ecnl teams in NJ compete for the best team in NJ.Looking at both teams, not sure which team will be better.Club history says Matchfit will fade but who knows maybe this age group gets it right.
I heard MF Black is virtually unchanged for next season
MF Black has not proved anything at this age group. Because you beat a team 1 time, during a regular season game, does not mean you are better. I would still pick NJX as the number 1 team. They have played the best teams out of State closer than any of the other teams. I would like to see all of them play in the same flight to determine who is better. Storm has the better style of play out of the top 5. If you want to give teams style points then that's a different poll. But until Black beats up on this age group, they are not number 1. I would say number 4 or 5. 1. NJX2. Storm3. Ajax4. Wildcats5. MF BlackTeam style poll1. Storm2. Ajax3. MF4. NJX5. Wildcats Wildcats would hammer MF Black. Mark it down.
MF Black will no longer be called Black. Black will be North based team.MF Black last season and this season vs U12 teams lost 3 times only (Breakers, Stars of MA, World Class. Played vs all top teams. Sorry I lean towards Black over PDA and NJX.Comment on MF getting it right. Have very good teams from U15-U18. I think they are getting it right
Sorry. Looking at Blacks tournament results, it seems like they shy away from the tougher brackets and they lose to the too teams. I think NJX beat World Class Andries FC Stars. Lost to Breakers 3-0 and MF lost 5-0. MF barely beat Storm. Luck. Everyone can have an opinion and I respect your opinion but they cannot be called number 1 when they haven't won anything in this age group. They were given 3 years to do something in this age group and they haven't done anything yet. Just people smoking that stuff!
Luck I think NOT.This teams plays up last 2 years. Not shying away from any competition.
lol.. the team plays up? They don't dominate at their own age group. Couldn't even beat Samba this year.
Any of the top 5 teams at u12 could play u13 b & c teams and win. Not impressive! You play up against weak teMs and then go to Delco and switch to the weaker bracket and still lose....not number 1 in NJ.
Matchfit Black will be a good team next year.They will compete.PDA is confusing to me as they lose to mid level teams at the regionals.
Yes MF Black is a good team. Not saying that. Just saying they are not #1 until they knock off PDA, NJX or Wildcats in a tournament or continuously.PDA played w/o their new additions and w/o their head coach. This makes a difference.
11:13 - How many new girls will PDA Storm have and what will the roster size be?I agree that not having your coach makes a difference, but the new additions shouldn't be taken into account until the fall.
Rosters are always frozen for USYS Regionals, Therefore any new players coming in -in the middle of the year cannot play in the regionals.Which is the way it should be. You shouldn't be able to bring the new players that were acquired in the Spring.
Already knocked off PDA. Next playing U12, coach played everyone to take advantage of extra games.
Storm is much better now with the new additions than with the girls who won the state cup.
These are some quality wins vs u12 teams6/11/2014 NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE) 3-06/8/2014 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (NYE) 1-06/1/2014 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ) 2-04/27/2014 ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (NYE) 1-011/2/2013 PDA Storm 1-010/20/2013 East Meadow Hotshotz 1-08/25/2013 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (NJ) 1-08/24/2013 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NJ) 2-0
The updated GS top 5 - looks good me - MF is the only team not in the top 5 in NJ. How does NY look? How does PA look?All this GS hate but they seem to have it right or are very close.NYE top 5=========EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ NEW YORK SC G01WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTONATLETICOGU12SACHEM SPEEDNJ top 5=========HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTICPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCHPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAXRAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOMPAE top 5=========PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL1776 UNITED XTREMESPENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACKUKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACKFC REVOLUTION FORCE
Top GS teams at Spirit Classic in PA. Not a bad lineup. ( non PA teams - I am very curious to see how the event values the PA top teams -How many PA teams make the top flight of an 11v11 event after they played their entire season as 8v8?)Region 1 Rank3 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT9 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL10 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 12 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE16 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM17 1776 UNITED XTREMES21 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER25 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITEDRegion 2 Rank3 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST
I thought the blow hards on this board decided that the only way to be #1 in the state is to win a state cup? so following that logic - MF will never be anointed the topped ranked team in NJ by this bunch of youth soccer experts. doesn't matter who they consistently beat in league play because the youth soccer blog gods ruled that league play is for developmental purposes only... oh wait - screw that developmental stuff... MF couldn't beat SDFC Samba in league play - so MF isn't really that good.everyone can take whatever angle they want that best suits the point they are trying to make... here's mine:I'm not a MF parent - just a parent of a team that has beaten MF, tied them, and received a beatdown from them... in that order and over the course of the last 18 months. this is a very good team that is getting better every season. hate all you want - but give them the respect that they deserve.
8:16 this board is a revolving door. First there is Hate on PDA Storm, then there is Hate on MF Black and now that we are on MF soon the who will be the ECNL questions will pop up, then we will move on to Wildcats Hate followed by a South jersey thing and a movement to put Ajax in top of the charts in NJ. It's just how we roll on this board. MF will have a BIG 3rd game at NPL Finals as they will NEFC which might win the entire thing. That will a good test for MF and just for the record that NEFC team is no B team.
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"How many PA teams make the top flight of an 11v11 event after they played their entire season as 8v8?"For U13 in 2013, the top 11v11 bracket comprised5 PAE4 NJ2 MA1 MDIn 20128 PAE1 each from NYE, NJ, MA, MDCertainly looks like they take care of the PAE teams, which isn't surprising considering it is a PA tournament.That all being said, the transition from 8v8 to 11v11 doesn't appear to be that big a factor. LVU and Hulmeville were teams just barely in a PA top 10 as 8v8 teams, and they remain just barely in a PA top 10 as 11v11 teams.WCUSC was a finalist at Spirit and won Jeff Cup playing 8v8. They made semis at Delco playing 11v11. Still a good team playing either 8v8 or 11v11.
Just posting this to have a date stamp as of today. You can see from the below GS points how many the ECNL/NE NPL clubs have with their event count in ( ). Easy for anyone to measure their teams success rate and compare it to ECNL Club A and B teams.I think this will also paint a picture about how successful PDA Storm really is and How much more love MF and Albertson would get if they played in 2 events more on the ECNL side.On the NPL Side you can also see some quality teams North East ECNL Teams29729 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL (11)21995 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (6)20573 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (7)17905 FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY (7)17162 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (7)15574 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (7)11055 FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 (8)10619 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK (4)10243 CFC WEST ORANGE (6)8866 ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED (4)1986 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01 (6)998 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL (10)North East NPL team24493 HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (10)16805 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (10)10847 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED (9)9285 CFC ARSENAL SKY (6)7332 FSA FC U12 GIRLS WHITE (8)7034 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY DRAGONS (5)6062 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM (5)4935 EAST MEADOW SKY BLUE (8)3748 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 NPL (9)1148 ALBERTSON 2001 FURY BLUE (3)1026 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL (5)732 CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '01F NPL (4)190 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED SOCCER U12 GIRLS NPL (4)
9:05 Yes but just because it's a PA event doesn't mean you flight PA teams ahead of 11v11 teams from out of state with a proven track record playing 11v11. Penn Fusion looks strong all the others, not so strong. I guess we'll see this year if playing 8v8 for an extra 2 years benefited teams with all those extra touches. AND before anyone posts it will take time to adjust to the larger field - I would argue against that, if anything the teams that stayed small sided should be better with all the extra space. The kids should be fit anyway. Good times ahead.
10:07 wrote:"The updated GS top 5...How does PA look?All this GS hate but they seem to have it right or are very close...PAE top 5=========PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL1776 UNITED XTREMESPENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACKUKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACKFC REVOLUTION FORCE"This looks accurate to me, although I'd move PL to the back in view of the shellacking FC Rev gave them at Delco Cup, and PL's loss to the Ukrainians in state cup.Tough to justify WCUSC/Penn Fusion at the top of PA when they have the 1-0 loss to Nether/1776 from Spirit last year and a bad 1-0 loss to HMMS in the quarterfinals of states. But on the other hand, they beat PL and Ukrainians easily last fall as well. Better to keep this a "Top 5 in any order" rather than an actual ranking.PA Guy
"Yes but just because it's a PA event doesn't mean you flight PA teams ahead of 11v11 teams from out of state with a proven track record playing 11v11."Agreed, but based on past track record, I'd be very surprised if PF, 1776, PL, and Ukrainians (all four are on the applied list) weren't all placed in the top bracket. Maybe there's an argument to drop PL down to the second bracket. But the other three are the Top ranked team using GS, the current champs from last year's 8v8 bracket, and the current state champs. It's pretty easy to justify having all three in the top bracket if the organizers are so inclined.PA Guy
To clarify, I meant "but based on THE ORGANIZER'S past track record".
9:10, thanks!Can you please create a list for NYCSL NPL.: )
NYCSL NPL – based off of their site – I’m sure it’s not done yet as I do not see NJSA and PSA16228 NEW YORK SC G0114284 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI5547 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 014064 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE3108 PARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPL2783 BRENTWOOD (FORMERLY EAST ISLIP) DYNAMITE2489 MASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIES1386 ISA 01 NPL871 QUICKSTRIKE FC 02'S191 NEW YORK RUSH PATRIOTS 2002EDL NPL16886 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH9050 TSF ACADEMY 01/027568 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS2947 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE2640 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA1984 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '011130 MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH 01G320 SMITHTOWN STARSN/A NJ STALLIONS ACADEMYN/A JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 00/01G PRE
Thanks, can you add the amount of events like the list at 9:10am?Am I asking too much? Sorry.
PA Guy so if those 4 are in the top flight plus these 7 of the teams that have applied. 3 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT10 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 12 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE16 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM21 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER25 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITEDRegion 2 Rank3 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WESTWould make 11 - and I would imagine the CFC Delco ECNL team makes number 12.However, what happens if Breakers, NJX, Ajax and MF also apply all applied last year. Who will miss out?
NYCSL NPL – based off of their site – I’m sure it’s not done yet as I do not see NJSA and PSA16228 NEW YORK SC G01 (7)14284 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (10)5547 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (9)4064 MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (8)3108 PARSIPPANY SC PARSIPPANY NPL (4)2783 BRENTWOOD (FORMERLY EAST ISLIP) DYNAMITE (3)2489 MASSAPEQUA LIL' ROWDIES (6)1386 ISA 01 NPL (4)871 QUICKSTRIKE FC 02'S (6)191 NEW YORK RUSH PATRIOTS 2002 (1)EDL NPL16886 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (10)9050 TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (9)7568 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (7)2947 NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (9)2640 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (10)1984 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (10)1130 MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH 01G (8)320 SMITHTOWN RED STARS (6)N/A NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY (0)N/A JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 00/01G PRE (0)
CFC ECNL will not be in top flight. CFC is very realistic where their U13s currently stand. They may not even be second flight.And with all their departures, would Rage even want the top flight?My best guess is that GotSoccer points will be the tiebreaker if two teams are comparable. We had a similar discussion when the Jeff Cup flights came out. WCUSC/PF and Nether got the top flight while PL and Ukrainians got second flight. It was all based on GS points.So, to your question, Breakers, NJX and Ajax would all probably be in top flight, while MF would not. For the PAE teams, PL and Ukrainians would likely get bumped down.Didn't someone previously put forth the idea that GotSoccer was leaning on the tournament organizers to use their rankings if they were also using the GotSoccer software?Harford is a team that could also get placed into a lower bracket. Not a lot of current club name recognition, and they fared poorly in the Delco Tournament (which is also run by CFC).
9:44 Thank you Sir!Now pick a winner from each league to meet at Nationals next summer, got a prediction?
where are you getting the EDL NPL teams from?
Can PDA have two NE NPL teams? Thought you could only have one team per academy......
My daughter's team played your NJ top 3. MF Black PDA Storm NJX Ajax as well. Ajax is just a notch below. PDA plays a very nice possession game. Vs our team they struggled vs the high pressure. Did not mustard much offense. New girls did not add much in my opinion. I actually felt it hurt the team based on what I saw in the fall. Team goes East and West too much, need to stretch field. Very little creatively, poor 1v1 skills. Everything is pass,pass. Too much pattern play, girls were too robotic. If pattern play is disrupted, girls are unable to be creative. I am dissecting this team, a very solid team overall. Can beat anyone and lose as well. Team needs faster more athletic team overall.Match Fit Black team plays possession as well, more attacking style. Constantly spreading team wide, using through balls best team I seen utilize this strategy . Puts a lot of pressure on back 4. Creates many opportunities. Only team I have seen that really uses wide, crosses, runs to back post, getting numbers up in box. Once these girls get older, stronger, these girls will capitalize on those opportunities. Strong center backs, strong midfield, best wingers that in have seen. Need a true striker, more attacking outside backs.NJX. Very fast and physical. Has one center back that is very fast, she can become a solid player. Need to learn to play with feet more. Very little build up from back or middle of field. Plays everything direct. (if able to play like Black stretching teams and playing through balls with purpose, will become stronger) right now kicking then chasing. This team is able to beat many teams due to size and speed. Will struggle vs possession teams as results has shown. I have heard 2 NJX GIRLS will be playing with ECNL next year. This will weakened team. Most likely this move with take place mid fall season. I am not debating just providing a feedback from outside NJ on the 3 mentioned above only I would rank them as a teamMFPDANJX Best possession teamPDAMFNJX1v1 players, creativeMFPDANJXDefenseMFNJXPDAHave a Happy 4th
More like MF more roboticcan't make a move unless being told
I Can't find a common team from out of State that all these team have played in the fall.( GOT Soccer)Also, Just curious, if you are from out of State, how could you possibly know what girls are new at PDA.?
MF definitely not robotic.
4:20I am totally with you.....how would an out of state team know that 2 NJX players would possibly be playing up at U14, with MF ECNL? Who advertises shhh like that? I definitely think someone is full of Shhh here.
Common opponents World ClassEast MeadowAlbertsonCFCFSATo name a few
MF definitely robotic. Coach tells them where to pass the ball, when to shoot etc...
lol.. who would have those common opponents at their finger tips.. MF Dad , that's who. So transparent. Couldn't get past 7 words on PDA before starting to bash them.. So obvious.. and NJX needs to play like "Black" what a poser. Enjoy yelling daddy coach.
3:21 why would you say that?Thank you 2:46, I disagree with your PDA breakdown, how many times have you played Storm? EDL NPL team list is from NPL website - I adjusted NYSC and Manhattan since it looks like they moved to NYCSL based on their alignments. The two PDA teams in NPL is just a guess that it will be NE NPL, it looks like both will be in an NPL, I can also FC Stars, Breakers, MF and CT FC also putting in multiple teams this year or in the future.Happy 4th ALLPS. Based on u12 Results only and if the leagues are the way I posted.NJX, NJ Crush and NJ Wildcats would be my guess to represent the leagues at the 2015 NPL Finals
Looked at Got SoccerPDA didn't play world or East meadow or Albertson in Spring .You said you played them twice as a comparison.LOL...smells like Matchfit to me.Yo must be really insecure about your team Matchfit parent. Relax its just u12 soccer.
Of course it's a MF parent. Stop coming on here pumping your chest about your daughters team being the best. Just have them prove it day in and day out. MF hasn't done this. NJX players aren't even MF yet and someone is saying that their players are playing u14. Only someone from the inside would have that information. From what I have seen, PDA is the best possession team and NJX has the most athletes in this age group. Black has about 5 good players. The weaker players are hidden behind these players. I have seen all of these teams play, numerous times.
It doesn't matter - who his kid plays for - it's his opinion. Just like I think Godzilla would beat up King Kong.Thanks for posting it.
PDA Ajax parents are a bunch of self-absorbed morons, who cheer for opposing players to get hurt, and hiss when one of their little darlings gets a dose of her own medicine.
There are one or two morons in every bunch, that group just got stuck with more than the average bunch. Some of the other Ajax parents are very nice though.
All I can go by is the game-day experience, they need to acquire some more class, but the team is pretty good, no doubt.
I have played all these teams 7 times and know each and every player on every team.And in my opinion Matchfit is the best team in the country.feel better now matchfit
PDA dad's quickly jump on here to protect their baby. Sorry guys, you are not king of the world. My daughters team, beat u guys in spring and we are better than tour team now, actually better than all 3. We have not lost to you guys and you guys are not as good as you think
My daughter played Ajax at an indoor tourney this past winter at University of Pennsylvania. PA teams there included Ukrainians, Nether, Lower Merion, and a team that was a mix of West Chester and Penn Legacy players. Ajax parents seemed fine to me. Nice even. Maybe the bad seeds weren't there?
That's nice trolling 6:21. A real solid effort, but not nearly as subtle as 2:46.
PDA is so great. Best team ever Oh wait, coach had to recruit hard, signed 22 players, and then go 2 wins, 2 loses and a tie at regions. Your the best I have ever seen
It's funny how a post can be made anonymously and then followed up by by the same poster posing as different readers to attempt to reinforce the original bogus post. So for example if a team beats another team by a wide margin and the losing parents were not expecting it and those parents are frustrated, someone can come on here and post something negative about the team or the parents that is not even remotely accurate with the hope of bringing that team down. How bout spending a little more time working and practicing with your kids so maybe that score might not be so one sided next time instead of the bogus posts.
6:41Actually PDA did pretty well at ECNL playoffs this year.They willl probably be voted Number 1 ECNL club in the country once again-so it appears to be one of the better clubs in the country and is located right here in our back yard.As far as Regionals for this team, they seem to have done pretty well getting to the finals.and No , players recruited this year were not allowed to participate in the regionals. so not sure where you get 22 players.In the end i am sure both Matchfit and PDA will be two great choices for our kids.I for one am glad that we have two ECNL choices for our kids.I hope they allow another club from NJ into the league.
I am the poster above, I only wrote 4:33. Nothing afterwards. My daughters team played them in Fall on one team then moved teams and played them again in spring. Sorry not part of Match Fit. I would have responded earlier, started the 4th partying a day early
^^^^^^What a joke!
I would agree with the posters assessment of PDA matchfit and and njx.PDA most technical,njx most physical and fast ,matchfit best balance of both.like I said last month matchfit will finish the season strong.
Spoiler alert Joey chestnut wins And proposes to girlfriendSorry if I ruined it for you trolls
CENTRAL JERSEY INVITATIONAL 201472: TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ) 86: JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ) 122: YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE) 242: FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ) 278: STRONGHOLD SC FURY (NJ)301: ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY AVALANCHE (NJ) 323: SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ) 330: JACKSON SC AVALANCHE (NJ) Lititz Summer Showcase 201461: PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)1143: MIDDLETOWN SC VISION RED (NJ) 1529: EAST COAST PREMIER SOCCER ACADEMY (NJ) u11: EAST HUDSON ACADEMY GU-11 (NYE) 2014 PA Classics Mid-Atlantic Cup: 82: FC REVOLUTION FORCE (PAE) 118: PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) 128: STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 300: STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 W (NJ) 585: SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE) 839: PREMIER ANGELS (MD)
Happy 4th of July everyone!Honest assessment of the 3 teams are as follows:Best fast physical/fast Striker is NJXBest outside midfielders /MatchfitBest Defense is NJX/PDABest one vs one player is PDABest Goalie is MatchfitBest Midfield/PDA/MatchfitBest outside forwards/PDABest difference Maker/ PDAI would take a combination of players from each of these teams and from the wildcats as well to form a super team that would be able to compete against anyone nationally.All these girls are super talented and the teams could beat each other depending on the particular day.Each play a different style of soccerEnjoy your kids and happy 4th of July.
I tend to lean towards first poster, one above. I agree with striker - NJXOutside mid fielder's and wings go to Match Fit1v1 players - Match FitBest Goalie- I like PDA, Match Fit very good optionMid field - PDA\Match FitBest Difference Maker- neither team have that one player, like East Meadow. PDA and Match Fit have solid teams. Either team will not drop off if a player gets injuries. Credit clubs for building the proper way I do prefer the attacking style
Happy 4th all - PA Guy, I will repost the teams in the top 100 (GS Rankings). If the past is any indication of how the event will be flighted - the top flight will probably be 4 groups of 3 teams (12 teams). GS National Rank6 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT18 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL19 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 20 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX21 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE34 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM35 1776 UNITED XTREMES50 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER54 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST57 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED61 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK69 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK86 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH93 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLSTo me that would be very interesting JPS would be team 13 if you guy by rank strictly. Looking at the teams ahead of them it really would be sad if they were not in the top flight based on this list.
Below is top 100 using GS Rankings2014 Eclipse Select Challenge Cup8 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM NJ 11 CINCINNATI UNITED CUP GOLD OS16 FC DALLAS YOUTH 02G PREMIER TXN17 COLORADO RUSH RUSH CO23 TOPHAT 20 GOLD GA37 TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 OS80 KC LEGENDS INFERNO KS
Is anyone sending their girls to any of the Rutgers Soccer Camps this summer? Just looking to see if they are worth it.
I'm going to use Spirit as my example because they provided their applied list for EVERYONE to see - clearly money is not driving this event. Every coach can see the teams and if the level is appropriate for their team BRAVO guys. The event people will have a tough time with making flights for this event. They have used a 12 team top flight in the past which I believe hurts the teams when it comes to GS points. Not just the top flight but for the lesser flights. I will use the PDA event as an example as well.2013 Spirit top 8v8 flight 12 teams - Max GS points 10,000 to be given to 4 teams.2014 PDA top flight 8 teams - Max GS points 10,000 to be given to 4 teams.In this example PDA's second flight would have more value that the Spirit 2nd Flight.As I said I am curious to see how the flights look when they are done - I believe teams have one more day to apply. July 6th is the deadline. I would love to see them do fights of 8 so they can take care of the teams that picked their event since GS is part of the landscape and most likely isn't going away. From the below list 9 teams will bring a max value of 10,000 points so the top flight will be 10,000 for sure - after that it's anybody's guess.ONE more time Bravo Spirit - for giving us something to chat about and at the same time giving your event some chatter can only make it bigger next year.5 number ONE teams plus a team from CanadaSTATE #1’s using GS6 NYW#1 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT18 PAE#1 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL21 MD#1 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE99 MI#1 PREMIER SOCCER GROUP MI GATORS 02 ORANGE814 DE#1 DELAWARE RUSH DE RUSH '01Canada OSHAWA KICKS SC RENEGADESplus another 12 teams from the GS top 100.GS National Rank19 NJ#3 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 20 NJ#4 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX34 NJ#5 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM35 PAE#2 1776 UNITED XTREMES50 MD#2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER54 OHS#3 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST57 MA#5 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED61 PAE#3 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK69 PAE#4 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK86 NJ#10 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH93 PAE#6 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS100 MD#4 PIPELINE SC BLACK
At 6:31 pm.(Matchfit parent)I agree both Matchfit and PDA do a great Job in making sure that the team is bigger than any one player. which is the way it should beBut your perspective on players is not a recent one.I
Name for me a team that doesnt
GFABoth coincidently are coached or trained by a Daddy Coach.
GFA is a one man show. No offense to the other players on the team, but my goodness. I've never seen anything like that.
Certain players such as GFA player mentioned would be major offensive standout regardless of the team she is playing on, dont have any ties to that team which many wont believe but can say without any hesitation if you put her on NJX, Storm, or whatever, you would still see a major differentiation making everyone else around them appear to be a notch below. It is easier to put an entire team down many notches than to put one player that high on a pedestal so lets all go with that.
Any advice other there on how to deal with an end-of- season evaluation from the coach that you don't agree with, is there any point in bringing the matter up? Any suggestions?
At 5:21. I watched first hand how the difference maker fared in a 5 -0 drubbing while girls danced around GFa defense. 5:21. You don't know what you are talking about. She is a good player in a single player system.
At. 5:55. How specific was the evaluation.
It was very specific, and mostly fair and honest, except for one aspect, which is really wrong, not sure it it's just me, but that aspect might affect her selection to any id camps, it's actually pretty ridiculous, if you ask me, so please don't.
Can the gfa dad go away. They get beat by u10 teams indoor and only 5 girls playing.
At 7:32Your coach chooses the player they want to identify or it can be done by outside coaches while in league play.Have you asked the coach if this will affect the possibility of her getting chosen?Style of play will color how a coach views your daughter on the pitch. For me open discussion with the coach was always the way to go but keep in mind, he already knows that you are bias and may not see things in the clearest and most objective manner.You also need to decide if the coaches vision is the correct one for your daughter. I sometimes higher a 3rd party professional observer that has nothing to do with the coach to watch my daughter in games to tell me what he sees. You would be amazed at how different opinions can be amongst so called Professional coaches.
Thanks for your feedback. No, I have not thought about a third party observation, but if I have to do that, them the writing is on the wall. It seems like he just doesn't see what I see, and I know I am slightly partial, but I go to every practice and game, and watch very closely, for this very reason. So now I have a dilemma, and it's not do much his opinion versus mine, it's is it really any different anywhere else, lots to think about. Cheers!
Sorry, guys but I am a little confused. The coach, gave your daughter a year end evaluation and you don't agree with a portion of it? Is that correct? Didn't you bring your kid to a place where you don't have to do anything but enjoy the soccer ride? If you disagree you have two choices in my opinion. Talk to your kid about the evaluation and what the coach thinks she needs to do to improve and work on it together OR leave. I think you need to leave if you disagree with their professional opinion since no good can come with that and you don't want to bring a negative attitude to her training/games. Just my opinionI disagreed with what the club thought of my kid, we moved and she's doing really well and is very happy in her new environment. Respect the coaches opinion or move on. To me it's that simple. If your kid is good she will always have a top team to play for, if she isn't then you will know that as well. Just think hard and do what's best for your kid.
It not always easy to know what is right for your kid. As an example, this is the best team in the area, and we don't want to drive 2 hours to practice, each way. We have decided to not tell her that aspect of his evaluation, but rather focus on the positives, and improve her standing. It tough either way, and sometimes what you think is not that important.
I never understood someone who pays big bucks for a premier club and then not want to take the word and advice of the experts they are paying. There's a reason why they are a professional trainer and you're not. If you want to evaluate your own kid, go coach a town team. You can play her at striker for 60 minutes a game, and call her the next Alex Morgan at the year end pizza party.
Wow. That's a radical approach. Your daughter should KNOW the negative aspect of the evaluation.Do you have any close friends in the sport you can run it by? If they'd be honest, and have seen her play a good number of times, use them as a sounding board. But don't trash the coach in the process.
She does know what she has to work-on, she is aware of her problem area, and will be reminded before every practice and game, trust me. Its psychological, not physical, so its something that you have to reinforce, but hopefully she will she the light.And yes, I do trust them to train her correctly, they have, she has improved greatly, the issue is more about how she ranks within the team. Look, you really don't need to be a professional player, or a professional coach, or a professional anything to know what is what, and when I mentioned the situation to some of the other parents they were also surprised, so.I played soccer, I have coached soccer, and I am an avid fan of the game, so don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about, I have eyes, and can be flexible, so that is what I am going to be flexible.
every parent thinks they "know" soccer. Again, coach a team if you want to control her evaluations instead of trying to change the opinion of a trained professional.
10:39.Any coach worth his salt will tell you that his evaluation is not the gospel of the almighty soccer Gods.Different coaches see different things in a player and they valve different aspects of the game.This is the reason that some players flourish in new coaching situations.It is also the reason that coaches get it wrong in their talent evaluation at the highest level.I do not know the specifics of the evaluation but one should always analyze and dissect what a coach is saying about their daughter.The first thing I would do is hire a 3rd party evaluator to take a look at your daughter. Hire someone with significant credentials. it will cost you no more than what you would pay for a private session. Have them look at her a couple of times. Do not share the original evaluation, let them come to their own assessment. You will be surprised at the differences of opinion that different coaches have on the same player.Even within the same club, the coaches opinions will differ.Coaches will often ask other coaches within the club, what they see in order to confirm their own opinion and that opinion can most certainly differ.11:19 is correct in that you should heavily consider what coach is saying but as Ronald Reagan said " trust but verify"You would not be doing right by your daughter if you did not go the extra mile.Good luck to you.
Here is the article taken for u14 Blog.Many examples of this; No coaches opinion is the gospel. even the very best get it wrong.http://www.soccerwire.com/blog-posts/getting-it-right-why-talent-selection-doesnt-work-well-enough/#.UsNyVGcwiSs.aolmailIn 2010, that last boy picked, Simon Kjaer (pictured above), was a starting center back in Denmark’s first game of the 2010 World Cup in South Africa against the Netherlands. Since 2004, he has appeared 30 times for Denmark, and played club soccer for Palermo and Roma in Italy, Wolfsburg in Germany, and currently plays for Lille in France. Not too shabby for the kid no one wanted at age 15.Six months after Simon Kjaer took the last roster spot at FC Midtjylland, the club director collected the eight staff coaches in a room, and handed them all a piece of paper. They were asked to list the five current players (out of 16 on the roster) most likely to advance the furthest in the next five years. The results were then sealed in an envelope and locked away.Five years later, shortly after Kjaer was sold to Palermo for a tidy $6 million transfer fee, those results were opened. Not a single one of the highly qualified, UEFA “A” Licensed coaches even had Kjaer on his list!
12;40, interesting, thanks!
Wow, this Blog has gotten extremely boring. Must be summer. Spirit Tournmanent can't come soon enough!
2:26 I wish it could be like this all the time.
CENTRAL JERSEY INVITATIONAL 2014 [GIRLS]ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY AVALANCHE (NJ) JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ) SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (NJ) STRONGHOLD SC FURY (NJ) FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ) JACKSON SC AVALANCHE (NJ) TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ) YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS BANSHEES (PAE)===============================2014 PA Classics Mid-Atlantic Cup: GirlsFC REVOLUTION FORCE (PAE) SOUTH CENTRAL PA SCPASA 01 LADY LIONS (PAE) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 W (NJ) PA CLASSICS ACADEMY 01 (PAE) PREMIER ANGELS (MD) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) ===============================POCONO CUP 2014 PREMIER [GIRLS]DOUG MILLER SOCCER DMS GU12 STEALTH (NYW) MEDFORD SC HURRICANES (NJ) MONROE TWP SC PANTHERS (NJ) NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ) JACKSON SC AVALANCHE (NJ) LIJSL PDP GIRLS 2002A (NYE) SDFC SAMBA (NJ) THISTLE COMETS (NJ) ===============================
I love this guy, it's too quiet, in other words, no one is putting down my daughters team, so I cannot exactly attack my old pals at MF, PDA, NJX, WCFC, AV/WC, CRUSH, ETC, ETC...
Relax 434, I was just commenting on the blog of late where the entire conversation for like an entire few days was about some dude being upset about his daughter's year-end evaluation & asking all us what he should do. If that excites you great, for me its pretty darn boring.
I guess Brazil is horrible since they lost 7-1 at home in the semi-final of a world cup.
7:11 here I think Germany should stop playing in future world cups, just like teams should stop playing in ECNL with all those blow out wins when they travel.The World Cup is a joke just like ECNL is. Just busting horns - Score lines like this happen at all levels, doesn't mean the event/league or team getting the beat downs stinks.
My daughter and I watched the game, at 3-0 it was over, everything else was a clinic on how to attack, and how NOT to defend. Thanks BNMT.P.S. There is NO crying in soccer.
Why are the NPL National flights lopsided? If every team doesn't play each other in each flight, how can that be a good way to see who is the best in the flight?
10:13 This is the new norm and I like it - Region 1 Championships did the same thing. For example you have two divisions of 3 teams (6 total teams). Each team plays the same opponents (the 3 in the other division) best team advances based on criteria. Love it.
10:56 You are talking about 6 teams playing. There are about 10 teams split into 2 flights. Different scenario pal. I know all about the way Regionala did it. Just seems awkward to me when everyone doesn't play each other in a flight or you crossover and play someone else in a flight. Just like how PDA made it to the finals. Shouldn't have made it but they won their flight playing weaker teams. Just SayingShould have been Sachem vs FSA in the final.
And the three teams did not play the same teams in the Regionals. Take a look my friend. FSA played Sachem. Both from the same bracket.
11:39 - not a different scenario?It's actually 3 Flights.Flight 1 has 4 teams playing 3 games.Flight 2 plays all 3 teams from Flight 3Flight 3 plays all 3 teams from Flight 2.The Flights are probably grouped together as a 6 team flight.This is Fair each team plays 3 games against the SAME teams. Love it. Actually FSA and Sachem played the weaker flight. PDA played the harder teams to qualify. NO? Lets call it like it is, just saying.11:40 FSA played Sachem in the Semi-Final - they both played the same 3 teams to qualify. Then the top 2 teams from each flight played each other to see who should advance to the championship. What's wrong with that?PS. It looks like the MF question has been answered.MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPL has NJX GS points and MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL has Falcon GS points.GS points for the ECNL clubs that have updated their GS accounts.PRE-ECNL29,729 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL17,162 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL10,619 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC PRE ECNL1,986 CONTINENTAL FC DELCO ECNL '01998 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNLNE Girls NPL24,493 MATCH FIT ACADEMY NORTH EAST NPL3,748 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 NPL1,026 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL732 CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '01F NPL190 COUNCIL ROCK UNITED SOCCER FC BUCKS FURY
As you can see all the teams from B play all the teams from CFlight ANEFC GU13 ELITE Match Fit Academy NPL U13 (NJ) FCSC Nemeis 00 White (WA) MFC Fire 01 Girls Premier (MS) Flight BMichigan Hawks 01LWPFC White PiranhasFC Copa Academy 13 GirlsFlight CEclipse 01G BlackTampa Bay United 00/01 Girls PremierFC Golden State G00Top 3 teams advance along with the best 2nd place team.
What no NPL finals are fixed to give Eclipse an easy road to the Semi-Finals??NEFC and MF will be tough as will FC Copa and Michigan - goal diff going to be huge.
Confirmation and invitations to EDP Champions league final Four on July 26 and 27 went out this week.Anyone know if any of the four finalists will opt out of attending?
Sorry to say, but all the u12 teams are weak. There are meny u11 teams that would not only compete, but would put a Germany hurting on these u12 teams! NJX is about the only team that competes at every game.
U13s r better than U14, U12 r better than U13, U11 r better than U12.Give me a break
njx parent ..your u11 team is mediocre at best!
8:34. Until these mega team U11s enter big tournaments playing up, all we'll know is that you think so.
8:34 gimme a break with that smoke, will ya?
Don't the u11's have their own board?On a side note MF lost their first NPL final game today.today 4-3.And all 3 teams from one of the 3 team flights won they might all go 3-0 so it will come down to goal differential and 1 team that went 3-0 might get eliminated. I hope that doesn't happen.
Quickstrike FC and FC Westchester Elite are pleased to announce an affiliation which comprises National Premier League (NPL) teams that will compete in the New York Club Soccer League beginning in the fall of 2014.NYE top teams per GSPRE ECNL EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ NYCSL NPL NEW YORK SC G01PRE ECNL WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON ATLETICO GU12 SACHEM SPEED PRE ECNL ALBERTSON FURY '01 RED SABA BROOKLYN CITYNE NPL WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMMNE NPL EAST MEADOW SKY BLUE WHITE PLAINS UNITED 02 NYCSL NPL MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDENYCSL NPL FC WESTCHESTER ELITE 02 aka Quicksrike
6;33, I agree: NYCSL NPL FC WESTCHESTER ELITE 02 aka QuicksrikeShould be at the bottom of that list.
"GS National Rank6 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT18 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL19 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 20 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX21 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE34 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM35 1776 UNITED XTREMES50 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER54 CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST57 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED61 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK69 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK86 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH93 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLSTo me that would be very interesting JPS would be team 13 if you guy by rank strictly. Looking at the teams ahead of them it really would be sad if they were not in the top flight based on this list."You lost me here. What do you mean by "looking at the teams ahead of them"? Those are all good teams ahead of them. I don't see any injustice here.I get that you discount 8v8 results, but until you show me a team that primarily played 8v8, and then sucked at 11v11, then your reasons for discounting the 8v8 results aren't really backed up by the facts. In fact, so far the little bit of data we have (3 teams) suggests that very good 8v8 teams are very good at 11v11 (Penn Fusion). And average teams at 8v8 are average at 11v11 (LVU and Hulmeville). Knowing this, why would GotSoccer discount the 8v8 results if the goal is to have accurate flights?
Never said they weren't good teams, but what are we using to compare them? Results? Never said there was an injustice - but taking 8v8 teams that are not head and shoulders over a team that played 11v11 well you can call it what you want to me it would be interesting.League Play in ( )JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH BLUE (NJ) (W5,T2,L0)HARFORD FC UNITED (W4,T4,L1)NETHER UNITED (W3,T3,L3)LVU '01 Elite (W2,T4,L3)You know these teams better than I do, I just went by what I can see online. GS Events10 HARFORD FC UNITED Thunder9 JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH BLUE8 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS Black 7 PENN LEGACY 01 Black7 NETHER UNITED Xtremes7 LVU '01 Elite
Looking at the NPL Finals, MF Black a top Regional u12 team by some has dropped first 2 games to u13 NPL teams. So those NPL teams are at the same level or better than a Pre-ECNL team one year younger. To me that tells me that the NPL is legit thanks to MF Black. Keep your head high girls and represent.FCSC Nemeis 00 White 4-3MFC Fire 01 Girls Premier 3-1
Jackson team playing in Pocono Cup premier division? love that - a good team, with low costs, showing grit, go Jackson
"League Play in ( )JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH BLUE (NJ) (W5,T2,L0)HARFORD FC UNITED (W4,T4,L1)NETHER UNITED (W3,T3,L3)LVU '01 Elite (W2,T4,L3)"I think you are comparing apples to oranges. None of the other teams in the league JPS won appear in the list of teams we are discussing.Harford, Nether (1776), and LVU have more losses and ties...because they were playing against each other, Penn Legacy and the Ukrainians. And FC Rev, who with their national rank of 82 are just ahead of JPS, too.
1:10 Really?? That post is for amusement I assume?
Matchfit 0-2 no surprise here.
Of course we are comparing apples to oranges teams that have played 8v8 vs a team that has played 11v11.You are missing my point. JPS played LVU to a tie. I am assuming LVU used guest players in November (not sure if they did and if they are part of the team now. LVU looks to be even against Harford and 1776. SO my question is how can any of these 3 teams get a top flight over JPS - not sure it will happen - just talking out loud. Penn Legacy did okay in The Region 1 Colonial League, the Ukranians didn't do so hot at the Region 1 Championships playing teams outside of PA. 1776 has some questionable results looking at their GS history.I know this is not the usual talk on this board. PS. I don't hate 8v8 - I just think those teams will be at a disadvantage playing 11v11 for the first month or 2. FC REVOLUTION FORCE does not look very strong to me - maybe they changed their team since the below results. They seem okay and are a top team in PAGS - not sure how strong PAGS is?EAST BRUNSWICK SC LIGHTNING (NJ) 1-1NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL (NJ) 2-4STRONGHOLD SC FURY (NJ) 1-0UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACKGREATER BINGHAMTON FC SELECT (01) (NYW) 1-2LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLSNJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ) 1-3TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ) 2-0JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER JPS FLASH (NJ) 0-0
Yes. JPS tied LVU. And they'll both likely end up in the second flight together. Nether/1776 is ranked 35 the US and Harford is 50. I just don't see how 86 ranked JPS knocks either of them out of the top 12.Making the 69th ranked Ukrainians the last team in makes sense. They'll make four brackets of three teams each and put one PAE team in each bracket.I don't know if LVU used guest players or B team players when they played JPS. I'm not sure why JPS gets kudos for tying LVU and Ukrainians get criticized for losing by 1 to the Bing, the top team in the group we are discussing. LVU is out of the top 12. I'm not even sure why they are part of this discussion. They got thumped 5-0 by Ukrainians and lost 6-4 to Penn Legacy. Their only good result was a 3-3 tie to Harford. And I gotta say, getting three goals by Harford's keeper something to celebrate. That kid is gooood.
My guess at the top 2 Spirit Flights (with teams that have applied)Flight 16 Greater Binghamton FC 01 Select (NY)50 Harford FC United Thunder (MD)54 Crew Juniors Gold West (OH)18 Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL (PA)35 1776 United Xtremes (PA)57 FC Stars of Mass North United (MA)19 NJ Wildcats Averbuch (NJ)34 RAGE FC Premier Freedom (NJ)60 Penn Legacy FC 01 Black (PA)20 Players Development Academy Ajax (NJ)21 CES Calvert CREW White (MD)68 Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Black (PA)Flight 284 Victory Express SC Express Platinum (PA)117 PA Classics Academy 01 (PA)120 Yardley Makefield Soccer Banshees (PA)86 Jersey Premier Soccer Flash (NJ)105 PHWM SC Pumas (MD)150 Rage SC '01 Athletica (PA)93 Lehigh Valley United 01 (PA)101 Pipeline SC Black (MD)170 HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT (PA)100 PSG Gators 02 orange (MI)Canada Oshawa Kicks SC RenegadesContinental FC Delco ECNL '01
11:44 had them in their list. So I just went with that.I just posted my best guess, what do you think? Close or way off?
Looks good to me. Except they separate PF from 1776 and Rage from Wildcats. Just for geographic variability. No one likes to play local teams at a tournament.I have no idea re second flight.
Because I have nothing better to do. I am going to use GS points and divide them by the number of events a team played to get the AVG pts accumulated per event.Number of events >>> Team >>> avg GS points6 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM 4954.834 ATLETICOGU12 6123.257 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 3352.717 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 3157.1411 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL 1973.006 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 3428.837 FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY 2634.297 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL 2568.5710 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL 1716.2010 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT 1688.607 NEW YORK SC G01 2400.718 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS 2090.637 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON 2318.297 1776 UNITED XTREMES 2224.867 BRYC 01 ELITE 2224.439 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 1710.3310 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 1531.4010 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 1445.6011 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE 1298.5510 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 1257.709 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 1358.448 FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 1517.3810 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 1158.609 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED 1228.3310 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 1084.70
Disregard previous list - wrong sort,6 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM 3683.334 ATLETICOGU12 3614.007 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE 3100.437 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ 2939.0011 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL 2702.646 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 2595.177 FSA FC U12 GIRLS NAVY 2568.577 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL 2451.7110 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL 2449.3010 GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT 2346.907 NEW YORK SC G01 2318.298 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS 2305.007 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON 2224.867 1776 UNITED XTREMES 2187.717 BRYC 01 ELITE 1734.149 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 1710.3310 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 1688.6010 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 1680.5011 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE 1520.4510 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 1428.409 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02 1397.448 FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED 01/02 1381.8810 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER 1222.609 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED 1205.2210 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02 1158.60
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