Saturday, September 7, 2013

U12 Girls Youth Soccer in Region 1


These young women have a year of 11 v. 11 under their belts and are ready to show what they can do. Across the 12 states of U.S. Youth Soccer Region 1, there are some impressive club teams who are a lot of fun to watch.


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Anonymous said...

Any good games this weekend?

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Anonymous said...

If anyone is doing ODP this year and wouldn't mind giving the rest of us some feedback on the experience that would be great. Just wondering if the cost is worth it.

Anonymous said...

Any truth to the rumor that PDA's call backs are this Thursday night?

Anonymous said...

Couple good games tomorrow.

SJEB vs NJX

PDA Nova vs PIPELINE

Predictions?

Anonymous said...

SJEB v NJX soccer teams: SJEB
SJEB v NJX parents: NJX

Anonymous said...

Barons over NJX, Pipeline easily over Nova

Anonymous said...

7:41...agreed.

Will take Barons over NJX and Pipeline over Nova.

Anonymous said...

NJX 1-0 over barons
Pipeline 2-0 over Nova

Anonymous said...

EE @ 1:11 any team can switch coaches mid year, its up to the club head honcho. Don't know which team they were speaking of, but our team coach was switched too mid year. not to an inexperienced coach, but maybe not the best choice for our team. and no the reason wasn't a coach leaving,it was just because the head honcho thought it should be done

Anonymous said...

any idea if MF branded NJX filled the second team from sol tryouts?
CM

Anonymous said...

NJX playing 2 games today?

Anonymous said...

I have also heard Stronghold was excellent. Great training at a great price. Too far for us unfortunately.

Anonymous said...

It's my understanding that MF/NJX won't have a 2nd team in this age group.

Anonymous said...

Why is everyone so obsessed with NJX? Who cares? Can we talk about anything else?

Anonymous said...

We (Cherry Hill) just best NJX this morning 4-2. Is NJX crumbling, they had 12 players. Falling apart!

?

Anonymous said...

Congrats first time for everything! Yes, missing a few this morning.. What's the big deal? Congrats to you!

Anonymous said...

Didn't see there big strong forward? Or there best defender who is usually unstoppable?

Anonymous said...

Why is someone posting as CM, when I havent posted in quite some time? Thank you for the compliment, but please sign your own initials. There are some strange birds on this blog.

signed

-CM


Anonymous said...

OMG, CH you won a game! Congrats!

Now if you could concentrate on your parents behavior so your players don't emulate it on the field. Some of the things coming out of their mouths is disgusting. No less coming from 10 and 11 year old girls.

Keep it classy Cherry Hill. You have some nice players on that team...act like you have been there.

Anonymous said...

Congrats on A win. This time of year gets to be tricky. Consider the possibility that some of the best players on teams could be at the 2002 ODP camp this weekend. . .

Anonymous said...

Irony?

Cherry Hill Soccer Club "Code of Conduct"

Players

· Players shall not do anything with intent to physically harm an opposing player.

· Players shall not verbally abuse an opposing player.

· Players shall not intimidate, or have an undignified discussion with, or concerning a referee.

Spectators

· Spectators shall set a positive example for the players.

· Spectators are not to incite players to retaliatory actions whatever the provocation, or imply to the players dissatisfaction with the game official.

· Spectators may only direct remarks to their own team players. They shall not upset or intimidate opposing team players.

· Spectators shall not intimidate or have an undignified discussion with, or concerning a referee.

http://www.cherryhillsoccer.com/Default.aspx?tabid=11848

Anonymous said...

At least you acknowledge you only won because they had a few players down. No one is crumbling. You should however be embarrassed at the actions of the fathers on the sidelines. One obnoxious father was actually dancing up and down the sidelines like a fool preaching "new era". Hahaha. Pathetic. You won a game congrats. 11 year old soccer people.

Anonymous said...

I have a fair play question for the board.

A friend was describing their game today. Apparently the one side played only 10 players for the majority of the 2nd half even though they had a full dressed bench. It was finally called to attention by the short-handed team's parents.

At this age should the opposing coach step in and say something? Do any of the refs have an obligation to say something if they notice something? Or is it up the short-sighted team/coach to figure it out?

Are we at a point where competitiveness takes over? Or are we cool people and let the other team know because it is, after all, U11 soccer. The kids are still learning the game.

Your thoughts?

Anonymous said...

I believe you need to work harder if you are not playing as much. These girls are going to u12. Coaches should not be sugar coating anymore.

Anonymous said...

What was score of NJX/SJEB game today?

Anonymous said...

SJEB 4-1. NJX had a tough day... Changes need to be made..

Anonymous said...

2:41 - That's the wrong Cherry Hill club's code of conduct. There are 2 clubs in Cherry Hill. The team in question is from Cherry Hill FC. Their code of conduct is much shorter . . .

Anonymous said...

NJX record is not that good.
Check out their wins vs losses.

Anonymous said...

9:29 you win the Internet blog award.

I think I found the right code of conduct for CH.

1). Parents to act like complete idiots on the sidelines.
2). Players to call other opposing players curse words as much as possible. (Their center forward has perfected this rule)
3). Parents and players to talk as much crap as possible to opposing players, opposing parents and referees.
4). Continue to repeat rules 1, 2 and 3.

Is this the right one?

Anonymous said...

How did CH play? As good as their mouths?

Anonymous said...

Perfect! You got it right!

Anonymous said...

Cherry Hill...you got lucky! Congrats.

Nasty coach + nasty parents = very nasty players.

Cherry Hill did you make it to the finals at the NJ State Cup? NOT!!!

Anonymous said...

Stronghold is an option for those who want to train but not play college showcases when thru get to high school. Just check where their older teams play. Personally I don't know why you would pay $2K a year, when you could pay half that price and play on a good town team that plays the same level schedule. SSC seems to be a sweet spot for multi sport athletes who can't cater to a demanding soccer schedule.

Anonymous said...

@1033. I disagree. Stronghold keeps up a tough schedule. U11 played 8v8 and 11v11 this year and more tournaments than most. The practiced soccer and added speed and agility each week.
Also they hire qualified trainers unlike other clubs and academy programs who seem to grab kids right out of school and give them young girls to coach.
And finally. There is nothing wrong with multiple sport athletes and the flexibility to play more than one sport. It keeps the girls options open and makes them better athletes. Don't forget. Simply because your daughter plays soccer at u11. Doesn't mean she will play it forever.


Anonymous said...

NJX parents so defensive. So you lost two games. Heard you didnt have your best forward. Can your team lose a few games or a tournament without jumping off a cliff? "Changes need to be made" . I know the type of parent you are. Always negative on sideline and criticizing coaching, other girls, training, Takes kid from team to team. Has to know everything that's going on. Soccer world would be so much better without parents like you.

Anonymous said...

What does it say about a team if they are missing their best forward? One girl carries the whole team???

Anonymous said...

And we heard you just stacked the box against PDA in sate cup. Should have done the same at Jeff cup and would nt have looked so bad. I think it's time to just fade away and take a back seat on blog.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone getting what they expect for their 2K? Who here is happy with their club?

Anonymous said...

OK with tryouts over did PDA Galaxt, Crew, Nova lose or drop players yet?

Anonymous said...

11:02 agreed nothing wrong with their small sided teams. Their older teams however travel nowhere and compete against lower level teams at best, against larger clubs. They can't maintain competitive teams when kids leave to play other sports.

No fight here. Just stating facts. Obviously go wherever you want, since it sounds like you are seeking validation of your choice.

Anonymous said...

I heard the top girls leaving galaxy to go with nix. That team is place to be. A few others are looking at PDA south knowing they can always play ecnl games when they want and get double practice time at no additional charge.

Anonymous said...

3:34 - what club are you with? MF? PDA? A non-ECNL club?

Anonymous said...

3:43 - sorry

Anonymous said...

3:43 - sorry

Anonymous said...

Sooo wrong about anyone leaving Galaxy to go anywhere! Check your sources!

Anonymous said...

7:45, I believe 5:10 was being sarcastic!

Anonymous said...

7:45, I believe 5:10 was being sarcastic!

Anonymous said...

@343 not seeking validation. My child and I are realistic, we enjoy soccer and she hopes to be a soccer star and the first female soccer playing president. ( I would like that too)

But until then, we are just stating facts. Its a good program.

your attack, on the other hand, seems personal

Anonymous said...

If you believe that is a personal attack - you need to leave the blog. He was being nice - I would have told you the club blows at older ages and is just a town team.

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Anonymous said...

PDA Nova lost players to SJEB. Is this True? Joe T.

Anonymous said...

PDA South, SJEB, CH, Hamilton will keep the South strong and will compete well it's good sign for the growth of the teams to have teams so close to each other competing. North teams have always beat each other up so it's nice to see more teams in the south compete well.

Anonymous said...

This whole blog is from the south teams - the north teams parents must have jobs.

What is PDA galaxy considered? Are any they from the south? I Are they considered a mid jersey team? Where do the girls come from at younger ages?

What about MF? Are they from the south?

Anonymous said...

Rage and Vorhees too.

Anonymous said...

PDA Galaxy is considered a pda north team. I believe the girls are from all over but not entirely sure.

Anonymous said...

Go onto Got Soccer and look at the PDA roster. 2/3 of them will not be on the team at U14. Mark my words.

Anonymous said...


Kids interests change. Many team rosters will change.

But thanks for the post Captain Obvious. Some of your daughters teammates must be moving over to PDA. Be happy for them.

Anonymous said...

Did PDA Nova pick players to replace the 2 that left for SJEB. Just wondering the outcome since PDA South tryouts are over and if new girls were already offered rosters spots.

Anonymous said...

Did any one on here have a daughter do odp 2003. If so did they get picked for the invite only game. And if u did how did it go and what did u think of the coaches and what was the game score . Interested to hear opinions .

Anonymous said...

PDA is considered central Jersey.
Kids do come from all over but it is central New Jersey.

Anonymous said...

ODP game was 5 zip Wildcats. Granted ODP team was not the 15 best ODP players, but a good group. Not sure which Wildcats team they played but clearly there was a sizeable age difference. ODP team had U10 and U11 club players.

Overall ODP experience was fine. Not great, not poor. If you have a phenom U11 player no need.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your answer to ODP. I wonder why they did not pick the top 15 players. You are right . They were good but not all of them were the top pick. I was there for all the training sessions and the last one in Wall. With all the hard work each player put into the sessions. I would have like to seen the best 15 picked. That is what ODP is about. ..... This is what makes some good players not come back to ODP . It's a shame. Especially when a coach comes up to a player and congrats her on her excellent play tells her she's the best at her position and then was not invited to play . Makes you think what is ODP doing .
Guess will just wait for id2. ... Crazy

Anonymous said...

My daughter plays on the Galaxy and I know that when she looks around in the few years 2/3 of these girls will not be here.

- Captian Obvious

Anonymous said...

Captain Obvious: how many did Galaxy lose and pickup after tryouts? 0?

Anonymous said...

6:56 you have a creepy galaxy obsession

Anonymous said...

The Wildcats team that ODP played were only U11, so not any real age difference. They are a good, not great team, so it does seem that the talent that ODP picked to play was not all the best players. Seems like ODP is overrated?

Anonymous said...

I sat next to a parent from the Wildcats and unless I misunderstood him, he said that team was a mix of U11 and U12. In any event you had a team of U10/U11 kids playing them without the benefit of a single practice. Score did not surprise me. Seemed to me they picked the kids solely off of the festival and that's very hard to do and get it perfect.

Anonymous said...

So they are older u10 players and younger u11 players - who cares. The older u10 girls have had the advantage their whole life and now they get an excuse. Not buying it - these girls are weak and so is odp.

Anonymous said...

Did you really just call some 10 year olds weak?

Anonymous said...

What do the tournaments look like for this weekend?

Anonymous said...

Well there is FC Delco in PA and MSSL EDP Cup in Hammonton.
Any predictions bloggers?

Anonymous said...

Guess NJX has trouble scoring in any state. 1 goal in 2 games? At least they are not on the blog making excuses.

Anonymous said...

Why do you care so much about NJX. It's Memorial Day weekend go have a beer! Where's your team??

Anonymous said...

No virtual NJX chest thumping is weird. I fully expected NJX to come on here yesterday and praise their players for "moral victory ties" or "Great come from behind goal Sally to tie it up" messages.

Anonymous said...

Make that 1 goal in 3 games. An early departure for NJX. I wonder what their excuse will be now.

Anonymous said...

you guys are idiots with your fixation on njx. move out of your parents basements and make something of yourselves.

Anonymous said...

Nobody came on here because they are 10/11 and probably off to the beach right now!

Anonymous said...

njx parents made themselves a target by bragging how close they kept the score with galaxy. they proclaimed they were galaxy's equal and were just as good as the fancy more expensive club up north. you shouldn't brag if you can't score goals or win games.

can't wait to hear the excuses: rain, bad fields, bad refs, dirt opponents. bad food, bad port-a-potties, bad pa police, potholes, blah blah blah

Anonymous said...

Nobody from NJX ever bragged about anything on here. We've played them many times with Hamilton, their parents are nice people and kids play hard and clean. Not sure why you would have to be classless on here.

Anonymous said...

4:27 - do some reading before you defend:

Anonymous said...

NJX a dynamite town team held there own against pda galaxy. Hardly a decimation!

May 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM

Anonymous said...

Always an excuse with PDA the balls flat, the grass is high!! How about just saying it was a good game.. So you only got 1 goal off a mistake..so be it.... Go play out of state and you won't score any.... I watched most of that game yesterday especially after those NJX girls were in tears about a teammate and they still fought... You should be ashamed......

May 12, 2014 at 8:34 AM

Anonymous said...

Why is NJX always in attack mode? I cant stand pda and wanted you to win against them just like everyone else, but I never see anything from them on this board? Not talking about nova, theybdont even countbin mynmind. You need to settle down, you lose everything you play in and had the easy path to finals. I'm sure you had ten in the box the whole game.

May 12, 2014 at 9:07 AM

Anonymous said...

You people are insane. My daughter plays for NJX. The Galaxy coach and girls displayed excellent sportsmanship. They were generally concerned when our player was down. She was taken off by ambulance and never came back in (obviously). Their girls expressed their well wishes for our player to our coaches after the game, and their coach called ours to check on the player Galaxy won fair and square. It was a great game. If only you mental midgets on here could act as mature as the girls.

May 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM

First two from NJX, 3rd from non-NJX, and last from NJX. Only classy one is the last one.

As someone pointed out earlier, NJX has drama. The parents obviously create it. Class?


Anonymous said...

Sad to say but every team has drama!

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Anonymous said...

What camps in or outside NJ are kids going to this summer ? Any recommendations ?

Anonymous said...

I know I was checking the delco scores all weekend as well, a lot of people do and I'm sure you did too. Why do you know so much about the u10 blog? Can you say pathetic?

Anonymous said...

What was removed?

Anonymous said...

Blog administration removes everything.Its getting ridiculous.They removed over two weeks of posts.I understand name calling should not be tolerated.But to remove posts because you dont like the opinion of the poster is unfair.This is a blog you wont always agree with everyones opinions.But thats why we are here to have discussions.

Anonymous said...

There goes another jags team playing in a town tournament for the points! Why don't you go to a tournament and be challenge and not beat up on rec. teams.

Anonymous said...

Are you kidding me?????

Anonymous said...

What rec teams are you referring to?

Anonymous said...

Pennsylvania parent here. We played NJX this past weekend at FCD Players Cup. Nice 1-1 game with NJX scoring the equalizer late. Parents were very cordial. Had a nice chat with one dad about how NJX will fall under the Match Fit name (do not know if this is true). There was the usual talk about SJEB/PDA player movement.

But, if I could address an earlier post, it's pretty common that your typical ECNL U14/15 team will have at least 50% roster turnover compared to U11/U12. As there are so many unknown variables, the bottom line is that one can only focus on development at the early ages. To chase wins/tournament trophies/gotsoccer points at the expense of development is ultimately a choice. Whether it is the right choice is entirely up to you and your child.

Best of luck everyone.

Anonymous said...

@1:34 PA Parent: Thx for the very good game this past weekend. Teams will be changing a lot in the next few years many of the highlevel teams will continue with a core but will have turnover from girls looking to go ECNL or not cutting it on a ECNL team. Turnover is based soley on club's and coaches needs on the field. (i.e. If a team has 2 strong forwards becuase they are playing 4-4-2 why would they pick up a player equally or as strong. That player must be overwhelming be better to knock 1 of those 2 forwards off)

Question for you what clubs are tied to Penn Fusion, FC Delco, and FC Bucks for PA ECNL?

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion is West Chester.
FC Delco is Continental (formerly Spirit).
Not sure about Bucks.

Anonymous said...

Did the PDA Shore in Tom's River ever get off the ground?

Anonymous said...

Yes that is true. NJX will be under the Matchfit umbrella in the fall. Def. A step in the right direction.

Anonymous said...

Why is it a step in right direction ro NJX? Holmdel would have been better off never letting MF in the door.. MF training over rated amd the organization is nothing more than a money pit. The backlash is coming.

Anonymous said...

FC Bucks are Council Rock United.

Anonymous said...

80+ kids tryout for NJX Sol .... and Sol passes on all.

Now NJX is holding a 2nd round of tryouts.

What exactly it NJX looking for?

Anonymous said...

They are looking for a second team. An MF branded NJX team. That will play EDP they already have enough. Just looking to fill slots

Anonymous said...

Mf njx may actually be good. Then you can have another team to bash on the blog.

Anonymous said...

143

Anonymous said...

So assuming many changes have been made on teams since tryouts are over. Can everyone follow up and make edits on this tread so we all get an ideal what fall season will shape up as. If I missed any top level teams please add.

PDA Galaxy: No roster changes correct?
PDA Crew: ?
PDA Nova: 2 players left, Any new Adds?
NJX(Matchfit): How many player changes?
Jackson: Team Collapse
PDA Shore: Toms River girls?
SJEB: 2 adds from PDA Nove?
NJ Rush Hamilton: No Roster changes?
SDFC: Going 11v11? No Roster changes?
Cherry Hill: No Roster Changes?
Rage FC: 11v11 or 8v8? No Roster Changes?
FC Maximus: 11v11 or 8v8 No Roster Changes?

Anonymous said...

PDA Galaxy: No roster changes correct? What I heard
PDA Crew: ? 2 new
PDA Nova: 2 players left, Any new Adds?
NJX(Matchfit): How many player changes?
Two teams. Mf njx sol-no changes?
Mf north-new team

Jackson: Team Collapse
PDA Shore: Toms River girls?
SJEB: 2 adds from PDA Nove?
NJ Rush Hamilton: No Roster changes?
SDFC: Going 11v11? No Roster changes?
Cherry Hill: No Roster Changes?
Rage FC: 11v11 or 8v8? No Roster Changes?
FC Maximus: 11v11 or 8v8 No Roster Changes?

Copa: two teams 8v8

Anonymous said...

Sorry,
PDA Galaxy: May have a change unconfirmed as of yet

What about
TSF?

Anonymous said...

Who cares? Geeze people!!

Anonymous said...

@3:44pm - its a blog board and 1:35pm actually had a good informative good idea and helps get information out to parents and give them understanding. This board is actually very clean comapared to others that use it to point out and blame teams, coaches, and other stupid things. So if you don't like do log on and look at it.

SDFC is going 11v11 and FC Maximus will pick a few to go 11v11 as well.

Anonymous said...

I agree, @135 is an actual interesting post. that doesn't just complain about winning teams.

Any word on PDA, I heard Galaxy was unchanged too?

Anonymous said...

Hope the Jackson girls found homes. Some good quality of girls on that team that deserve more.

Anonymous said...

Rage Renegades staying 8v8 from what I hear. Will there be any decent teams left at 8v8 in NJ for them to play?

Anonymous said...

They don't have to stay in NJ to play decent teams.

Anonymous said...

true but that mostly applies to tournaments. The NJYS Cup, NJ Cup and EDP might not be worth entering..... more travel is what it will come down to I guess.

Anonymous said...

Yes Jackson lost girls to PDA Shore, NJ Rush Hamilton that's good for those quality players. As for 8v8 in NJ, not sure there will be any quality teams left to play since many will teams will transition or have already moved to 11v11.
NJX Sol(Match Fit), PDA Galaxy and SJEB(w/ 3 new pickups) will be the top 3 teams.

Anonymous said...

SDFC merging their Rage and Aztec teams to go 11v11. Great Post @1:35

Anonymous said...

Rage FC should consider doing the same with Renegades and Revolution just to stay on the same page as their piers.

Anonymous said...

Piers? Someone has summertime on their mind!

Anonymous said...

EDP Scores from today?

Anonymous said...

NJX 2-2

Anonymous said...

NJX played themselves? at least they scored 4 goals. That never happens.

Anonymous said...

Sorry NJX 2-2 Hamilton. If you really cared go to the website. Jack ....... Always bashing 10-11 year olds....

Anonymous said...

Longtime lurker and wanted to share. I was impressed by this fiery defender. Nothing got past this girl. She played with such heart and soul. It really showed this player loved the game. After our game I approached this girl and her parents and told them how well she played. I heard their team would not be around next season so I wanted to have her join us. Her eyes welled up and she looked so sad as she said, "I love my coach, If he goes with you I will too." With a very heavy heart I found myself welling up with tears. Here I am this macho dad wanting my kid to be the best and demolish the competition and loosing sight that this is all about the kids. This young lady schooled me that it's about the kids and I will never lose sight of that again!
I did find out this girl is going to another town team. My question is why would the parents stay at a town level? Going into u12 isn't it time to make a move to pda?

Anonymous said...

7:53 very moving story. Sometimes its all about the heart of a player vs. any physical, skills, or athletism. It's not every players/parents route to play pay to play academy style. If the shines on her town team and showcases very well. She may go out for ODP in the future or TIP if her club sponsors her. So other avenues can be taken without going to PDA, MatchFit or any other academy style of play.

Anonymous said...

Agree...save your money! Very few full-ride scholarships available for soccer. She has a better chance getting an academic scholarship.

Anonymous said...

anyone know what happened in the Pipeline/Hamilton game? That should have been a good match-up.

Anonymous said...

1-1.

Anonymous said...

New National Rankings out....NJ and MD holding 6 of the top 7 spots.

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=National&Gender=Girls&Age=11&Region=&State=

Anonymous said...

Who cares about rankings they are u11. Those GotSoccer rankings will change drastically by the same time next year. Plus how do rank teams when some teams are playing 8v8 and other are 11v11 total two different games.

Anonymous said...

11:35 don't read them then.
Do agree that should be separate rankings for 8 v 8 and 11 v 11..but is what it is.

Anonymous said...

4:10am - Seriously why are posting that early in the morning. Rankings do not even show the true quality of a team. You have teams that enter 6-8 tourney's a year + league play. These teams are what I call point chaser teams and then you have a quality U11 team in PDA Galaxy that placed in 3 GS events this past year and did not play in a league with GS points and are right up there.

Shows that Gotsoccer has it totally wrong with the younger ages should of kept it at u14 and up.

Also agree with 11:35 8v8 and 11v11 should in different categories.

Anonymous said...

OMG 11:07 AM...why are you posting at 11:07 am...what are you doing...why aren't you working?
Give it a break....hopefully your team makes it somewhere some day....but my bet is not!
These teams shouldn't be penalized bc they won tournaments and leagues with points tied to them. That's how the world goes round...not everyone gets a trophy every time for showing up! Galaxy is a great team but they have been beaten and will lose again.
Guessing your team hasn't won a thing...prove me wrong.

Anonymous said...

I agree that the rankings are BS at this age but if you currently look at them they really are reflective of who the best U11 teams are in NJ right now. They're actually pretty accurate. Good part is anyone in the top 10 can beat each other on any given day which is a testament to the strength of all those programs.

Anonymous said...

6/1- 7:53: What team are you referring to? Very moving fictional story.

If this fictitious story is about a particular team that is slated to be dis-banned next season, well...I seriously doubt that a player would have said that about their coach. Additionally AND specifically, since all the "fiery" defenders are already going to PDA. Really moving story, coach!!!

Anonymous said...

PDA Shore?

Anonymous said...

Gotsoccer rankings are not perfect but as good as you
Will get. Just like all rankings in sports. The computer will
Just crunch the data & spit it out.

There is only one team beating out of state ranked teams.
Check the top 5 teams records. You will figure it out.

Sure on any given day any team can be beat.
What separates the best from the rest is the body of work.



Anonymous said...

Hey long time lurker...really?? I think you got your fiery defenders wrong. I was a spectator at the game and from what I could see there was a undefeatable defender from the other team that STOPPED the striker in her tracks and did not let her come close to scoring. Now that is a fiery defender! Why isn't she going to pda to play?

Anonymous said...

Congratulations on stopping a mid level striker that many have stopped this season. Keep patting yourselves on the back NJX for beating average competition and losing to the best. From reading the posts above, didnt you get one of those players from that team?

Anonymous said...

@8:53 I agree Gotsoccer is not perfect but it is also mis-understood at this age group. You mention Top 5 but if you look at Top 10 3/4 of those teams still play 8v8 and I think those teams will not match up well in 11v11(vs. PDA Galaxy/Nova, NJX, SJEB, Rush. So it doesn't show the true story yet.

To me Gotsoccer Rankings should only be done on full sided teams. 8v8 is great for development and the true Eurpean style. But points in points in Gotsoccer are for full sided teams not teams still trying to develop at 8v8. Soon enough they'll go lower ages and we'll start seeing 5v5 teams in other states u9/u10. lol

Anonymous said...

@11:59 6/3: For a matter of fact my daughter is on one of the PDA Teams ranked in the Top 10. You are probably just unhappy person thus the reason to come on here and stalk the blog 4am in the morning.

To point out Gotsoccer ranking great idea and concept. Alot better view then what was done in the past. The U11 year is more for capturing history for proper placement come u12 when all quality teams go full sided at u12. Hopefully all teams in NJ go 11v11. No need for 8v8 brackets in EDP NJ. Unless they lure PA teams that play 8v8 into the EDP league to give additional competition.

Total agree 8v8 and 11v11 needs to be ranked differently.

Out of those Top15 which of them are staying 8v8. Anyone know?

Anonymous said...


"A player who really wants to excel will spend as much time as possible playing small-sided games when he has playmates, and juggling and kicking against the wall when he's on his own." Claudio Reyna (and US Soccer)

But NJ PDA Parents think it's more important at the ripe old age of 11 yrs to go after got soccer points?

And we all know that PDA crowns itself the Best Club in the World, so they must be on to something and smarter than the rest of the USA playing 8v8 games, and the rest of the world playing small sided pickup at this age.

(But in reality you end up driving your kids to private foot skill lesson 5 days a week to get the ball touches they would have otherwise gotten playing small sided).

Which choice looks like the smarter path to take? Duh.

Anonymous said...

3:42 - Nice theory except a certain PDA north team didn't go to numerous tournaments and chase GotSoccer points like other same-aged teams. They participated in 3 tournaments and all were in NJ. They aren't "going after" GotSoccer points. They are that good to earn enough with only 3 tournaments.

And that fellow posters is scary. 3 tournaments and they are #4 in NJ. Champions of 2 and Finalist for the 3rd. Everyone above them have 2x the list of Got Soccer point-earning activities. To me those are the point chasers. But I guess if you can't do it minimally through quality like Galaxy then you have to do quantity and go here, there, and everywhere to cobble together the points.





Anonymous said...

@ 3:42pm
You are clueless..
If you ever go to a PDA North practice. You will see the coach split the teams into small sided games.
What do you think they are working on. " Kick the ball
& chase it Sally" NO control in tight spaces. Control
Under tight pressure. Claudio is correct. If your kid wants to be elite. They have to want it. That means
Working on their own skills. A coach can give you all the tools you need but if you don't practice with the tools. You will not master how to use the tools.

As for PDA. How many clubs around the US can say
They have two Playrers from the same club playing for the US national team. Not even on the mens side.

Stay off the blog if you don't know what you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

When it comes to PDA, you can follow the advice of one or the other:

(A) a bunch of internet blowhards who have nothing better to do than ridicule the club, or

(B) a former US national team player (27 caps), MLS player (353 appearances), and MLS Head Coach (68 games), who sends his child there for training.

Do you really need a hint as to who probably has the better sense of things?

- EE

Anonymous said...

3:42....I think we all agree that Galaxy is a great team...but you tooting your own horn takes away from that...have lost some respect for your team.

DO YOU understand how points work? Got soccer bases their point allotments per tournament by taking into account how many got soccer points teams in the tournament have.
Sooooo, your mighty Galaxy would have not earned a pile of dung if it wasn't for the other teams in the tournaments who had earned points by playing in the toughest tournaments and leagues.

Anonymous said...

NJX Sol got ZERO points at their last 3 tournaments (Delco, PDA and Jeff Cup) and yet they are ranked 6th in NJ based on GS. They are getting points via EDP league play. If Galaxy cared about points they would leave JAGS.

Anonymous said...

PDA aren't truly interested in long term development. Otherwise they would set the precedent for playing 8v8 up til U12s and transition to 11v11 at U13. But they won't. They have their U10s playing in a 11v11 tournament this weekend, i mean what on earth are they doing?

Lets face it if PDA changed and had the 8v8 at U12 and below model then clubs would follow, but they won't. Tells you what type of "coaches" they use there if they aren't telling the owner what is right for the players. And if they are telling him then it's the owners fault for not doing what is right.

Anonymous said...

5:53 go check where those national team players spent their developing years? It wasn't at PDA. Girls come to Prato play in te showcases at u16. Of this years senior class of PDA girls with commitments, more than half did not develop at PDA.

Anonymous said...

Caught up reading posts. Someone gleefully posted, as proof that their child will be at PDA come ecnl years, that Galaxy had no cuts this year. Whether that is true or not, go ask Mr. A how many girls left PDA this past summer, before this years U14 squad touched foot on their first ecnl pitch. 40+ girls left! Two entire teams. So hang onto that 3 letter jersey a little tighter because you still have a long way to go.

Anonymous said...

8:46am. Correct. Heather O'Reilly played for East Brunswick until she was U16 or 17 and then went to PDA. Doesn't the acronym stand for "Players Developed Already"?. Taking credit for the development of National Team players when they had very little to do with their development is ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

The claim against PDA - and what was most likely lodged at Nova and not Galaxy - was about chasing Got Soccer points. Galaxy doesn't chase points.

I don't see the other "academies" like Match Fit & FC Copa with U8 teams. They are not developing talent at the early ages but take other people's efforts. PDA at least has the kahunas to start teams at U8.

Anonymous said...

Cough cough. Check the current Galaxy roster and see how many started at U8 at PDA. I think you will find 5 at most.

You can't win claiming "development" at PDA. You must be a newbie parent or ostrich parent, with no idea as to what goes on at older ages.

Anonymous said...

9:23 yes, I can see where the MLS model and former USMNT mindset is working well for the USA. Keep following it, while the rest if us move on and improve.

Did you happen to catch Klinsmann's latest interview, or are you too busy staring at Gotsoccer rankings?

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/06/world-cup-klinsmann-united-states-cant-win/jurgenquote#main

Anonymous said...

PDA - always a club looking to find the next big thing. Meaning if a kid is very noticable on the field and parents are willing to move they will add to the roster.

When do you ever hear PDA turn down a quality player becuase there is no room on a roster.

Yes Galaxy is a good team so are others NJX, NOVA, SJEB, RUSH, but if a kid is undeniable above and beyond already developed. So a player still in the process of progessive development is thrown out the door at this age group to join these teams.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody have any recommendations for a one week sleepover soccer camp that is good but fun too. I have only really heard of Red Bulls Camp.

Anonymous said...

Worry about the program that your daughter is currently in. If you are in PDA, worry about PDA. If you are in NJX, worry about NJX. If people decide to be a part of a program, they have been sold on the program. Stop your bitching on things that arent effecting you.

Anonymous said...

Hey Lurker,
That fiery crying defender has already forgotten about her coach. She is 11. Instagram and her friends have now taken over. Once she starts with her new team, they will realize that maybe it wasnt as special as they thought.

Anonymous said...

I guess 11:09s sally was cut from galaxy and has an axe to grind about development instead of admitting that maybe sally wasn't as good as mom and dad thought. I bet sally is the star of her current team too, making mom and dad so proud.

Anonymous said...

@ 12:19 - "affecting"

Anonymous said...

Do you really think the Galaxy care about points.
Good one! They are preparing for the national stage.
Who cares about points.

Keep wasting your time obsessing over them.
They could care less what other clubs do.

Soccer is competition. Every great team brings in talent. That's what keeps players sharp. If your kid
Does not want to compete. That's why they have REC.

If a former Pro is brining his kid to PDA.

That' says it all.


Move on.

Anonymous said...

5:35 although not near the experience, World Class has two who have played on the USWNT as
Well.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone with IGFA? I saw that the club trains their players 2 hrs/day for 4 days each week. I was wondering how that is working out for the kids. To me 4 days a week at this age seems excessive but maybe my thinking is outdated?

Anonymous said...

Not with IGFA but it was explained to me this way - practice three days a week, with a fourth day possible for specific skills. Fourth day was not every week. Practice is continuous 50 weeks a year. I did not find out the penalty for absences.

Anonymous said...

The 8 hours would be fine if they didn't play many games. At U12 burnout needs to be guarded against. Most teams do a worse thing and play far too many games. Not including 3/3, 5/5, stuff you should not play more than 35-40 games a year IMO.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know of any impact or core players moving teams? Seems like not much movement at this age group going into u12 except for the Jackson team folding.

Rush and Galaxy will probably be the strongest in NJ next year.

Anonymous said...

Who is IGFA? Where do they play?
Do they have any other solid teams?

Anonymous said...

Rider Cup schedules posted

Anonymous said...

Looks as if there are alot more 8v8 teams playing Rider Cup vs. 11v11. Will this continue going into the Fall?

Anonymous said...

doubtful, look at the U12 bracket.

Anonymous said...

I understand the Non-NJ teams playing 8v8 but if the majority of the top or mid level teams in NJ are playing or have been playing 11v11 why not play them during the summer months to gauge if an 8v8 team should move into a 11v11 format come fall. Are these 8v8 academy style teams like (FC Copa, SDFC, Rage FC,SJEB) just chasing points and wins? Thoughts?

The regular smaller town travel clubs I understand staying 8v8 they are still in development moad. Plus I see some strong town travel teams at 11v11 assuming the coaches know it's better play.

Anonymous said...

@227 some of those teams look like summer teams only. Don't know why you would go 8v8 otherwise if you played 11v11 all year.

Anonymous said...

@9:14 True looks like summer teams, going back @2:27 your on the dot, why would a full time 8v8 team stay and play 8v8 in the summer. Chasing points or wins is not development. Pick up a few guess players and play 11v11.

Anonymous said...

2:27 are you for real? It's not just the "smaller town travel teams" that need to develop. ALL players are developing at 11 years old, and need the ball touches. Only NJ goes 11v11 at U12, and it's for THE MONEY!!

Within a few years at most, NJ will conform to. Rest of World and of what is best for the kids.

And if you don't believe NJ parents are getting hosed, ask you rival team parents from south Jersey or any other state how much they are paying for ECNL tuition or ODP. NJ pays 3x more for the same services.

Anonymous said...

@1216. All players need to develop but at this age. However, alot of these players have all been playing 11v11 already. Why switch to 8v8 - unless you want got soccer points because you are playing new teams or club is looking for more fees.
The younger teams will stay 8v8 for a while, that makes sense. They are new. But an 11v11 team going small sided for one year is suspect.

Anonymous said...

@12:16 I posted the 2:27pm yesterday and I'm actually from the North and my child plays 11v11. To my understanding there is no ECNL teams in the South they are only up North PDA & MatchFit.

So to be serious what is true development 8v8 no competition a few players dominate the game or 11v11 with competition to play as a team.

Anonymous said...

Anyone with common sense understands that small sided 8v8 is far better for development. More touches, smaller areas. My guess it that the few quality teams who stay small sided this year at U12s will do very well at U13. They will find competition out of state. Whether its the NY NPL or EDP. Or they will play teams within their Club.

Anonymous said...

Teams play 8v8 in the summer for two simple reasons, you are always missing players and it's hot as hell.

Anonymous said...

Missing players and being hot is not a reason for teams with 15+ rostered to play 8v8. You bring guess players up from B level teams or outside sources. These are excuses to me.

Anonymous said...

4:01 who says no competition? Honestly, the perspective of the parents on this blog is so small as to be laughable. Do you not understand the rest of the country and the world play small sided? There were more 8v8 brackets at Jeff cup for 12-year-olds than full sided.

Anonymous said...

the 11 year old that plays 8v8 has no problem transitioning to 11v11. take an 11 year old that played 11v11 and put her back on 8v8 and they have lots of trouble.

Much easier to play on the big field. your first touch can be sloppy,lots of room to move around and more time before your preasured.

Anonymous said...

I don't think there is disagreement that playing 8v8 longer is good. The question is for this age why bother. They already moved past it.

Anonymous said...

This age got caught a year behind. 95% of the teams in the state at U11 will be 8v8 next year. Not sure why PDA is going to stay 11v11. Poor choice, by a fine club IMO.

Anonymous said...

I don't think this age group got caught up with the transition period of staying 8v8 at u11/u12. Its the power house clubs like PDA that have established developed players on there teams that are ready for 11v11. Its up to all the other clubs to not chase and follow them.

Anonymous said...

9am-"established developed players on there teams ready for 11v11" Really? Did you really just infer that clubs like PDA have developed U11 players that have developed so much that they can no longer develop by playing 8v8 format so have to play 11v11 to further develop? You are absolutely clueless. Go read a book about youth soccer anywhere else in the developed soccer world and then come back to where logical conversation can take place.

Anonymous said...

In the world? What do they know about girls youth soccer? They don't even believe in it. PDA is the number one girls club is the us, maybe they can write their own book now.

Anonymous said...

8:26 - Galaxy has a lot of talented girls and seem to be fine at 11v11. They are going in a different direction that everyone else other than MF and we're not going to see them much in the future. Why not tell us about your team instead.

Anonymous said...

The point being made is that no player on earth is "too developed" that playing 8v8 is destructive to their current progression. Just because you think PDA is the best club in the country it doesn't mean a thing. If they played clubs from outside of the US they would get whacked. My older daughter played at Disney a few years ago and played a team from Japan. My daughters team were ranked top 5 in the country and we weren't even close to this team. It's a big world out there and just because PDA choose to play 11v11 at U10 and U11 it doesn't mean they are right. They are wrong. Plain and simple. They should be setting a better example.

Anonymous said...

Setting an example? Again, what is wrong with you people???? Here's a thought....if you believe your daughter should be playing 8v8 go to a team that does. The rest of us are fine... Trust me!

Anonymous said...

Keep drinking that PDA Kool Aid.

Anonymous said...

I did choose to have my daughter play on a team that plays 8v8. What's the rush to go full sided, the girls have the rest of their lives to play 11 a side

Anonymous said...

I think it's more on the parents agenda trying to get their child on a PDA or MatchFit 11v11 team early. Like many say it's harder to get on these teams later.

PDA teams didn't have much turnover maybe 2/3 girls between 3 of their 11v11 teams. So it shows that parents that get in early get the opportunites to stay on the teams vs. trying out year after year to make it.

As it goes 8v8 vs 11v11 conversation can vary depending on location, PA has done 8v8 for a very long time but their teams are still do not match up NJ's top level teams at the older stages. So it proves that going 11v11 does not hurt a team that is full of talent.

Anonymous said...

FYI to PDA north teams. You have a Lyons dad on u10 making some statements against galaxy and crew. Claims to be a u11 crew dad, nobody is buying it.

Anonymous said...

PDA has a lot of missteps and miscues. Look at ESFL and JAGS? Lol. And now they will not "revert" back to small sided because if the huge revenue loss. PDA charges $2500 per player minimum for full sided vs $1300 small sided . You do the math. Someone has to fund the boys DA program.

Anonymous said...

Heard PDA will be treating and funding the girls ECNL teams the same way the Boys DA program does? IS this true?

Makes sense for the boys DA program becuase if they PDA doesn't they will lose there players to the NY Red Bulls academy.

Anonymous said...

The problem with 8v8 in America (as opposed to the magical wonderful world of small-sided in Europe which people wish could be re-created) is that it is not just played for training and development purposes, but is still coupled with league and tournament competitions. And the resulting "need" to WIN those games tends to undermine the value of the format.

IF the focus of 8v8 remained increased touches through a short-controlled passing game, then absolutely it would be beneficial for all teams and players. But I've watched plenty of 8v8 games at tournaments, and most of the time, the 11s and 12s rely on the fact that their keeper and backs can loft the ball nearly the entire length of the small-sided field. They don't do it because they should, but they do it because they can, and is often effective in getting the win. It is also easier for teams to rely on their 2-3 stars on the smaller field, who often are given the freedom to go anywhere on the field, rather then learn to rely on their teammates. Until those elements are taken away (i.e. remove the over-emphasis on playing for results, points, etc.), then much of the benefits of the 8v8 format are wasted.

- EE

Anonymous said...

11:47 yes that is why qualified trainers are key. Most of the clubs should be building for the future, not for the win. The teams that have been learning the beautiful passing game are not going to abandon that just because they can sudden kick the ball 50 yards into the goal.

Anonymous said...

Yes, but the "quality" of the trainer is only one element. In order for that quality trainer to be able to stay on point, the Club has to remove the value of the wins, and how many Clubs are willing to do that when winning increases their marketability, ego and profit? And the parents have to stop putting so much pressure (and side-line coaching) for the win.

"Academies" should actually train in a true Academy style, where the focus is primarily training, and the games are completely in-house, or closed-door (i.e. no parents, no trophies, no standings, results irrelevant). And no, this is not "no trophies so everyone feels special" - this is "no trophies so the players can focus on development". Then turn them loose at 13 to play 11v11 against the world.

Will never happen though. Parents (and kids) in America want their training AND their competition. They want to be entertained for their money, and enjoy the pleasures of their kids' battling for a victory, as opposed to simply spending it on their kids education in the sport.

And that's not necessarily wrong. It does undermine the opportunity to get our players trained to the highest levels, but not everyone is in it for that - there is also value to simply playing for the enjoyment of it in the present, without worrying about college scholarships, or the future of the national team, etc.

- EE

Anonymous said...

EE
you are on target. I think the problem is most academies sell the concept of "development" then go for the win. Its a matter of sticking to the philosophy you sell.
That is where most of the parent's ire comes from in their blog posts. Most of American society reacts the same way- we don't like a sell out to pressure, but we love to say we are on top. That is why, I only worry about my own.

Anonymous said...

EE - Your comments are on the dot. Problem is it's not reality. With Gotsoccer rankings, online blogs, high end leagues like ECNL the landscape has escape the true meaning of development and has moved to "my kid is better then these town travel players, I need to move at a pay to play academy where my child can become part of one of the top 25 teams in the state"

To many things impacted the parents mindset to what true development is and it will never change unless MLS teams start making an impact on the community like European teams do.

Anonymous said...

You are forgetting about the kids. They want to win and get some type of medal or trophy.

How do you keep the morale up of a 12 year old whose team has lost nearly all league and tournament games all year?

Is there an 8v8 team who doesn't go to a lot of tournaments and focuses on development as you say? I would like to check out these clubs.

Anonymous said...

It's easy to see who hasn't played many "got soccer ranked games" but are competitive teams. I got these stats from got soccer, clubs are listed by their ranking in the state. Not totally accurate but from what i know the following clubs are playing small sided next year again. RAGE, SDFC maybe? STA, NJ Crush, NJSA will be playing small sided in NY NPL. Hope this is useful!

1, SJEB-41 games
2, RAGE-45 games
3, NJ Rush-33 games
4, PDA Galaxy-11 games
5, PDA Nova-38 games
6, NJX-38 games
7, SDFC-33 games
8, FC Maximus-25 games
9, TSF-36 games
10, Jackson-34 games
11, STA-19 games
12, Cherry Hill-34 games
13, IGFA-21 games
14, Moorestown-16 games
15, Monmouth-16 games

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Girls&Age=11&Region=&State=NJ&Tier=&Search=&pos=

Anonymous said...

Enough with the 8v8 vs. 11v11. Every team or club has there own preference on developing players. It's up to the parents to research and decide what club best fits them.
Development occurs mostly at 2 or 3practices during the week at this age. Games on the weekends are for competition doesn't matter 8v8 or 11v11.

If your daughter is getting the right training during the 3-4 hours a week that's where true development happens so stop the discussion about what's better for a child to play 20-30 minutes at 8v8 or 11v11 on the weekends.

How many exams are taking within a school year 3/4 max but a child goes to school 9 months of the year to learn.

Anonymous said...

@4:45 Thanks for putting that together I can see you have plenty of time. So based on your stats 3 of the Top 15 teams are 8v8. Which points to many on why would those 8v8 teams stay 8v8 come fall when 80% of the teams are 11v11.

They will need to travel out of state going forward to find competition and if they stay 8v8 in NJ they are just beating up lessor teams. So winning an 8v8 game by 5+ goal margins is not development to many.

-North

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