Pre Ecnl season to start again with a bang this weekend. today is FC Bucks playingFC Boston Breakers. Tomorrow is Penn Fusion SA playing FC Boston Breakers! Looks like the PF game will be unpredictable against FCBB Because they have several of their players with my daughter at ODP this weekend. 2 center backs and forward that are on their starting line up,!and I'm not sure about the rest . But surely unpredictable for first game, without their roster.
10:30 sums up the PF experience.Already looking to make excuses.Why so worried about wins? Isn't it about development and letting other kids play different positions? Why such pressure to win and then have to make excuses?You should be happy that they were able to reschedule your Saturday game against FC Stars.
FCBB put a beating on FC Bucks. Not sure what the final was. FC Bucks wont win a game. PF should beat FCBB.
Ah yes, looking back you nicely confirm the reasons behind the penn fusion hate when all I have said all along is that they have a history in investing in projects that they believe in. Simplify it for you who seems to have trouble following the logic... Strikers is indeed a highly competitive team and is the prime example of win now with revolving door policy. When you are a fully funded program you can make demands and cut kids mid season and anything else and keep competitive. A couple of years ago they cut a tiny kid who looked 2 years younger than the rest but possessed sick skills. Penn fusion said we will take you and help you along because we think you will be a real impact player in 2 years when you catch up in your growth. Said kid has now caught up in physical development and is successful for them. That is the definition of taking on a project which, in this specific case, has paid off. Keep attacking that post and me personally so maybe someone will believe you. Understand that you are the one who looks like the nut in need of psychiatric intervention. Except you are probably incapable of that since you are blinded by your anger and jealousy.
The projects are the tall, athletic players that they bring in with little experience.Those are the players that wind up dominating ECNL rosters at U15 and above.Showcase environment. Zero loyalty, but a high percentage of playing college ball.
Re 10:30 3 starters missing league opener for odp? Wonder how that went down.
C’mon @8:06. Don’t let reality intrude here. ; )Every scrawny kid that devoted her life to foot skills since age two, but ended up too small to do anything with them needs the growth spurt dream. So does every club that wants to cash in with teams 10 levels deep. You’re just a jealous hater because you got cut from try-outs that haven’t happened yet! : )
Yes projects tend to be of 2 varieties. Both are potential "late bloomers". One is the physically immature kid and the other is the athletic- read tall and fast, but has had inferior training. Some pay off. The little kid with sick skills grows-penn fusion example. The athletic kid wants it badly and puts in the extra hours of technical training and watches a ton of games on tv for tactical development another win. Not all little kids grow and not all athletic kids put in the time, but until they declare themselves some clubs are willing to make an investment for the future at U13 and some are not.
So how did PF do today?
8:00 they played great! i think it was because there were 10 parents there to tell them what to do when they had the ball. Not to be outdone by the Boston dad who went up and down the field telling his daughter how to play the game.
This weekend in RCL Elite:0 - ARSENAL EXTREME2 - NORTHERN STEEL STORM 0 - SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH CARDINALS 02 RED1 - SDFC RAGE2 - LOUDOUN 02 RED1 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GREY1 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GREY1 - HERNDON HURRICANES BLACK3 - SDFC RAGE0 - LOUDOUN 02 G RED5 - HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC1 - KIRKWOOD ACADEMY 02/030 - MSC DRAGONS WHITE2 - YMS TEMPO1 - SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH CARDINALS 02 RED0 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GREY1 - HERNDON HURRICANES BLACK4 - SDFC RAGE 1 - LMVSC PATRIOTS RED 020 - YMS TEMPO 5 - HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC2 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 BLUE (FKA RAGE FC RENEGADES)
PDA does a great job of grooming the big and athletic types. Their results and the size of their teams show it.They don’t take tiny hoping they’ll grow. The number one reason for advanced skill development at a young age is because only those who are marginally athletic need to specialize early to be competitive. The marginal coaches need theses ready-to-play players, in turn, to be competitive (as they can). If they take them, they didn’t get any better. If the latter really happened, why wouldn’t clubs take the small and unskilled and have them grow and develop at the same time?
HMMS beat rage 5 2?
Did PF lose there best player to MFA?
Why would anyone go to matchfit ? And I assume their best player must be from NJ?
I went to watch the Penn Fusion FC Boston game. Great game. Score was 2-1 Penn Fusion scored first two and then last second penalty for Boston. Yes, 3 starters were missing for ODP.. and let me tell you Penn Fusion did more than hold their own. Completely dominated the game. The 3 starters missing were their two center backs and a forward , so players had to make adjustments. One of penn fusions best players that is normally midfielder, I believe #16, played center back and looked like a natural. Her speed was unbelievable and she was catching up to the Boston girls from 10 feet behind. Other good girl #8 is the barons move, who did good as well. They had their striker playing center back with 16 and she did good as well. Boston seemed well prepared for that game and didn't look a bit tired from the day before. Usual good players 23,14,7,11 were doing good as expected, but the PF girls were not letting them shine. Great game and would love to watch another game from either teams.
Yawnnnnnnn......... Why do we keep talking about these mediocre teams ?
Anyone else think 10:09 is #16's dad? Lol
1009 Thx for the info PF parent, Nice of you to up talk your team or kids.
PF parent acting a bit desperate .
"I went to watch the Penn Fusion FC Boston game"Gee, you sure do seem to know a lot for a guy who just went to watch the game. How does one attain so much information from just watching a game and not knowing the participants?
I know! Gotta be a parent or coach. But why would a coach only point out two players?
MFA is a disaster!!
It's a mother of player. Try and guess which one? We have seen this number mentioned many times in the past and she moved from a PDA team over there, had to have been crew or Galaxy, u13 teams.
MF is not in good shape, players and coaches have left, so there is room on the 03 side. 02 side different, not enough coaches so not enough teams for them so they will be looking for a home.
Did the U13 PreEcnl Connecticut team pull out of the NPL Northeast for the spring?
Yes they pulled out. They figured out it was the B-league of the prestigious private clubhouse teams of the ECNL. What a joke that NPL NorthEast, feel sorry for the top 3 teams as they travel and don't see competition. Nice to see someone once again is putting player #'s on this blog again, Admin I though there restrictions on this?
"What a joke that NPL NorthEast, feel sorry for the top 3 teams as they travel and don't see competition."Come on, really? Once Connecticut is out, I don't think the variation from top-to-bottom is that extreme. What would you like to see? One team per state, so the level is very high, but 12-13 year olds need to travel 2-yrs to practice?
Admin has not woken up!yes it is interesting that conn pulled its team out. The NE NPL does not have the competition of EDP and others
949 Sorry but the RCL and EDP leagues are much stronger than the NE NPL. PDA(B Team and South teams) would be better off playing in those leagues v traveling and winning games by large margins. Isn't the ECNL clubs which run the NE NPL origins was to train more and play less games but only meaningful games? Well doesn't look like that's happening for the few top teams in NE NPL. Here's a big interesting question brought up. If the best players from U13 PDA's(South, Shore, and North B teams) were moved together would they be able to challenge the U13 Pre-ECNL team? It was a valid point and discussion that was mentioned with the DA coming as some girls may opt for it and some may stay ECNL.
If this league is so weak, why doesn't the top teams in nj win the tournaments when playing against these teams? The top six teams are very strong, but do agree they have some weaker teams at the bottom, common in most leagues. Rage, Maximus, sdfc and pipeline can't win the big tournaments. What league is stronger and tell me why please?
10:28 Currently the Spring's RCL league is stronger in my opinion. Games are tighter from Top to Bottom. After the two weekends of games I don't see the 5 or 6-0 blowouts you see in your precious NENPL league.
Didn't rage just get beat 5 to 2? Again, if it's so strong, why didn't they win PDA and Stars? the top two teams in the state didn't make the finals of either?
Connecticut is very weak, MF and WC are too. The rest are very good. If these teams were playing in your league, you would see similar results. I get it, sdfc and rage are the top teams in the state and always will be, but this league is comparable at the top.
And when has the top NENPL teams win a tourney as well. At least the RCL/EDP teams are getting recognized and being placed in top brackets take a look at the Jeff Cup for example.
anyone ekse have headache from these know-it-all mouths going on and on and one about this crap, this league this team, sdfc, rage?? Put down the keyboard and go help Carli with her homework. Grades are far more important. Rage, SDFC, they probably just had some off days which will happen when you play against quality teams. I think i saw Man City lose 5-1 and Leichester is leading the EPL. Real Madrid is in dangerous of not being second to Barca. I think adding Suarez has helped Messi and Neymar. Losing or adding someone special can really help or hurt.
1054 - I believe PDA won their own tournamnet as well as Stars last year. These are both very high end tournaments. I think Stars of mass and PF are really the top teams in the NE, although PDA has beaten them. Rage and sdfc played in both and didn't make it to the finals in either. Sdfc was put in third bracket at Jeff cup this year because they were beat pretty bad last year. Not sure it really matters as all these teams will change in three short months anyway. Then you have this thing called the DA around the corner and they will be the next target.
1219 It's a blog with discussions and debates if you have a headache feel free to take some Tylenol and leave. It's good to see and hear different opinions as many parents and players are looking for change with the BYC this coming spring/summer and Girls DA next year. I'm glad this blog is actually alive again for some time maybe a little under a month nobody was posting.
@101 - I think the discussion is about NENPL league v RCL/EDP not NE-PRE:ECNL league.
at this age, ne nil covers both teams and in bothIn both leagues pda and fc stars are leadings, penn fusion and albertson are only strong in precnl. The rest lag farther behind
119 Understood but the NE-PREECNL is good competition. NE-NPL seems like a few top teams playing mid-level B teams.
Speaking of PDA and their own tournament... are they ever going to post accepted teams? It's a month away and those not accepted probably need to make other plans. I can see smaller tournaments waiting until a week after the application deadline to post/notify accepted teams as they are probably recruiting teams to complete brackets. But the mighty PDA Spring Kickoff should of had them out March 2nd, unless they themselves are having numbers issues. I am 24 hours away from withdrawing our application or forwarding every email I get from a parent to PDA. People need to plan their lives PDA!
what team are you from? I will ask and get back to you. I can probably find out what bracket you will be in too.
411 - are you going to follow through on your promise and bail today?
As frustrating as it is...no bailing!
PDA accepted list is out.
wow, looks like rush - aka rage is playing. They could set a record on GS points if they keep up this pace. I think they play in a tournamnet every weekend up and down the east coast. I hope they enough money for their other kids activities.
1046: PDA doesn't give GS points! Don't be jealous your kid's team isn't doing enough.
ya, I'm jeliuos that we don't spend our entire life traveling to soccer events. I will enjoy spring break this year again with my entire family instead of traveling to PDA during that week. The kids actually like real vacations, not traveling around the NE to watch their sister play and dad coach.
Someone is a little bitter they didn't get accepted to the tourney!
Why do peaceful on here?
Maybe Monday the #16 mom will be back on here talking up her kid . That's always entertaining and good for a few laughs .
6:35 you're an a-hole starting crap again. Stop using jersey #'s it's the symptom of your warped desire to degrade little girls!
You must be the mom lol
All you dad's need to leave the mom alone. lol
Im hearing FC Bucks is in total shambles. U14s and 13s top players are leaving. Not that they are the top on other teams. U14 coach is good. U13 is not very good. Heard hes leaving anyway. Which is probably good. Lots of spots open on these town teams.
904 So I guess all the former SJ Barons players that went to FC Bucks are chasing all away the other players/parents. Plus why would anyone go there if they are in shambles with strong clubs teams around that area like YMS, Hulmeville, HFC, Lehigh or hop right over NJ and join PDA.
9:42 because the clubs you mentioned are not a better option than FC Bucks.
This weekend in RCL:1 - HERNDON HURRICANES BLACK0 - ARUNDEL ASA PUMAS '02? - EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU13 02/03 (No Report)? - KINGS FC 02/03 PREMIER3 - NORTH UNITED FC RUSH0 - EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO BLUE1 - BEADLING 02-031 - GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED RED '02 SELECT3 - NORTHERN STEEL STORM2 - WNY FLASH GIRLS 02/03 0 - SDFC RAGE0 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS GREY1 - MSC DRAGONS WHITE2 - HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC? - YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER TEMPO (No Report)? - KIRKWOOD ACADEMY 02/03 GIRLS1 - RHINOS ELITE SC 02/030 - KINGS FC 02/03 PREMIER1 - NORDIC 13 PREMIER GIRLS1 - DMS GU13 ACADEMY4 - NORTHERN STEEL STORM 41 - GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED RED '02 SELECT1 - WNY FLASH GIRLS 02/033 - NORTH UNITED FC RUSH1 - ARSENAL 2XTREME1 - EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO BLUE0 - CENTURY V G02/03 GOLD1 - SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH CARDINALS '02 RED? - ARUNDEL ASA PUMAS '02 (No Report)? - SDFC RAGE3 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS BLUE (FKA RAGE FC RENEGADES)0 - KIRKWOOD ACADEMY 02/031 - HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC0 - YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER TEMPO0 - MSC DRAGONS WHITE1 - PWSI COURAGE 02G REDAction finally underway in the Red Division.North United and Northern Steel in control of the Blue Division and they meet on April 10th.SDFC in control of the White Division.HMMS wins the Gray Division for a playoff berth.
I heard PDA Galaxy got their butts whipped.... By the falling apart Match Fit Team
211 I don't see a score posted yet, maybe your referring to the U14 PDA team that played MF this weekend, as that's the most talked about game on that blog.
211 and 225 sound like the same person, what do you got to share? This blog never talks about these games, so you must have something to share. Sounds like a beating happened yesterday, please do tell?
Not 211 or 225but PDA galaxy lost to MF pre-ecnl who has lost some of their best playersand PDA crew tied MF ne npl, who had no subs
Sure your not 3:16. How bad was the beating?
3-1 we kiled PDA. why spend money when a town team kicked their butt?
Wow PDA Galaxy lost can't win them all. We'll see how Jeff Cup ends up.
@335 - since when are you still a town team? MF charges more than PDA, and looking at your current roster, you have barely half left from NJXnice job nonetheless
Nice when for MFA. Doubt that MFA lost their best players if they beat PDA Galaxy. Maybe PDA had injuries? Or maybe they decided to get their subs some play time figuring it would be an easy game?
Very individual game being played : lacked of teamwork <<PDA
Always thought that MFA team was underrated and had some really talented kids. The 2002s would be wise to stick with club as the 2014 group is pretty special. I understand that is a tough drive.
Very smart for those few to leave MFA. PDA got beat and that's all that matters. Way to go MFA beat everybody before your team completely folds.
Current 02 PF player (former SJEB) heading to CA for national camp.
Thanks for the update Dad lol
It's on the website idiot.
We get it, your a proud dad.
Once again congrats on PF on finding and recruiting a another player from outside the club. Yeah they really develop players within there homegrown system, time to move on.
Would she be heading to CA without PF? Doubtful.
You guys are idiots. A couple of Pda, Long Island, and Matchfit kids heading to CA.
Player in question more skilled than all of the above no question.
Of course she is Dad of the player lol
So do a lot of other players . Only time will tell .
One thing she doesn't have is size. If she plays up it will be interesting to see if she can handle it being so small.
Anyone know where the FC Bucks girls might go if they are unhappy ?
The girl’s director is also on the regional NTC staff. There, girls from other teams seem to end up on his. His contacts and influence get the club’s players in national.
I guess it helps to be with a club that knows the who network of NTC Staff. Do many think the DA will fix this and give the opportunities to players not on ECNL clubs.
Don’t know. Could become a different crony system. But, at least, for now, it would be a new one and outsiders might briefly have a better chance. Although expect a lot of usual cast of characters in both.Increased international competition is the real cure. Now it is not damaging to waste national team slots that could be better used by more athletic kids. It’s not on the newsfeed that these crony cases don’t have much impact on the GNT or beyond.
Crony Cases? Please explain!
The truly gifted players will eventually rise to the top and get noticed.
If, and only if, they can find quality training and playing experiences outside the crony network. Don’t forget soccer became popular in the US because corporate transfer families were frustrated by the stranglehold the established families had on all the traditional youth sports opportunities.
Looking at the brackets for Jeff Cup. Why is SDFC in the third bracket and not in with team likes Penn Fusion and Clarkstown.
I think it's based on last year, they did horrible. They never do well in the big tournaments, just play a lot of soccer.
12:23 - Where did you read that? Just red some history of the sport in the US and didn't catch anything close to frustrated corporate transfer families. I'm not saying it didn't happen - just wondering where you got info.
you all sometimes are just idots. sdfc is in the second tier, there are just two brackets for that tier. learn to read will make hating a bit more intelligently done.
9.11. My mistake. I just realized that I couldn't read. However if you want to act all intelligent you should really Start your sentences with capital letters. Also the person that responded to the question was merely stating a fact. SDFC did terrible last year. So I guess in your intellectual mind that equates to being haters.
Sdfc did horrible last year at jc, that's why they are in the third tier. Too many poisonous parents on that team.
Jeff Cup Top Flight Group A looks very interesting. Every one of those teams can come out. How will PDA respond after losing to MF, OP Fire always comes to east coast to dominate, HMMS on a roll lately. Not really sure how Greensboro will fair at least Jeff Cup tournament directors didn't follow GS totally.
1:35 - Don't just do a drive by, let us know your opinion of the consequences, if any.
PA State Cup Bracketology:FC Revolution Rowdies - (Winner plays HMMS Impact '02)Montgomery United '02YMS Tempo Penn Legacy Black '02Fairmount FalconsUkrainian Nationals Helios BlackWarrington FC Ninjas - (Winner plays PA Classics)FC Bucks RampageLehigh Valley United '02FC York Elite '02Harleysville Ready '02Vincent United Integrity
The quality of refereeing is atrocious. The fields were in poor condition. Boston was gifted 2 goals and we should have had at least two pk's.
Hey Boston parent.. @4:15
Don't you mean PF parent?
Parity is on parade in the Championship bracket.
I would like to ask a question and hope to get an honest opinion from a parent who might understand this a little better than me...My daughter is not at the level like many players out there but she plays on a competitive team that plays in a good edp league and may not win a lot of games but the team does compete vs most of the teams. I asked our coach why we did not attend the disney tournament during the winter and recently the jefferson cup which many of the teams we face, both attended. The answer I received shocked me, but made TOTAL sense... Many of these coaches who coach these teams go to these high level "sleep away" tournaments bc it's a vacation for the coach. Coaches don't pay for the flights, the hotel, the rental car, the food, etc. When I heard this, it made total sense. Second- our coach mention, if you are not in the top flight (8 teams max) why would you bother. Our coach has us playing scrimmages- 2 a weekend, vs boy teams that are quicker, stronger, faster, smarter and the games are 15 minutes away from my house. Wow- makes sense. I am new to all this and when I continue to hear about teams attending all these HIGH level tournaments as such a young age, it made me mad that our team, who can compete, does not attend these type of tournaments. My question to you parents who go along with this would be, what kool aid does the coach serve your sideline? Why travel hours and hours away for something that is pointless. If you lose ONE game in these tournaments, the chances of your team making it to the final is slim. You just spent $400 on hotels, $300 on food, $250 on gas for what? 3- 60 minute soccer games? You can find the same competition 20 minutes from your town. Now I understand that tournaments matter bc of GOTSOCCER points but does it really? Just wait until your team is U15/U16 to attend showcases and whether your team has 0 points, if you're good enough, you're good enough and will get noticed. I hope parents get off the TOURNAMENT train and realize what you are doing. Ask your coach what is the reason of going to these tournaments at such a young age. Why you are traveling 5-8 hours away when your teams is placed in the 3rd-8th flight in the tournament. See what your coach says when you told him that you spent $2000 dollars in 3 days and there's nothing to show for it but a medal- there no coaches watching. There no scouts. 85% of the teams that attend these tournaments are in a 25 mile radius of each other.. there should be a rule. Don't travel outside your area unless you can beat everyone by 3 goals. Then you prove you're worthy and must travel to get some competition. I'm glad my coach was able to teach me like he teaches my daughter or else I would be driving home from Virginia in 18 hours for no reason..
Seeing how he posed this very long question on both U13 and U14 boards he must really want answers so get to it people.
We are getting our kids acclimated to the travel environment because it's only a matter of time before the national team calls.....
What team do you think will have an girls academy next year? Top 3 guesses?
New Rankings after the last 3 weeks of games and tournaments. 1- PDA GALAXY2- RUSH3- FC MAXIMUS4- SDFC5- STA6- RUSH 27 CHERRY HILL8- PDA SHOREThoughts?
Rush (fka Renegades) did better at Jeff than did PDA Galaxy.
@7:00 ignorance. Spoken like a true Rush parent. They didn't even play the same teams so how on earth could you come to that conclusion? Regardless, neither team won and the wknd is over. Let it go.
Rush had two top teams come together as one and claim as if their the best. Nice try. PDA Galaxy is FARRRR better.. maybe one day rush, you can only go so far. PDA will always be the best
9:37 ... Why do you care how other people spend their money?Our team made a decision to stay "local" this spring, therefore as we were beating teams by 5 goals this weekend our top "local" competition was in VA playing competitive teams/games. What teams do you think had a better experience? Before you answer think about this... my daughter woke up this morning and asked what was the point of playing this weekend..
PDA Galaxy lost to Match Fit. How can they be #1?
I think all the teams from our area represented well at the Jeff Cup and we should all be proud. It just goes to show how much depth this area has. Most states/areas only have a few solid teams and we have enough around here that we don't even need to go to Virginia to get the high level of competition. Congrats to all the teams that were in Virginia from our area. they all did great!!
What have the various clubs announced they are doing with the 8th grade U15s in the fall? My daughter will be in the same boat next year and I'm curious. It won't be the worst thing IMO to take a few months off. My kid has never taken more then 6 weeks away from her team since U8 and a break may not be the worst thing. Thanks in advance for the responses.
10:37 As many of the (2002)U15's next year will be Freshman (1/2002-10/2002) there will only be a select few within a 2/3 month span of 2002's (10/2002-12-2002) that will be in 8th. So the majority of leagues like the ECNL/NE NPL will not have a Fall schedule and the regular season games will start the End of Nov. This will most likely only 2 month window for those in 8th grade of not practicing with their team also disadvantage as many will be coming from HS soccer playing vs. older girls on a day to day basis. I hear some clubs will allow those select few of 8th graders to continue training with the 03's until all the Freshman's start back up again mid-Nov. That's what I've heard so far.
EDP has announced they will have Fall 2002, and every age bracket.
1255 Yes you are correct good luck with the lack of competition showing up teams/players. To be honest that is injury and over play for a player to play HS and club/travel in Fall. The HS season is packed tight enough with games and practices within a 3 month span(Aug-Nov) why would any parent risk playing attending club/travel practice on top of it.
Know of at least 2 clubs that will allow 8th grade 02's to train with 03's and high school 02's will not train during high school season but will play matches on weekends. 8th grade 02's will join their 02 peers on match day(s).
2:39pm That's two clubs out of 100+ hopefully more will follow. Like 1:49 said I am also not looking forward to the lack of competition come fall if none of the middle-top teams do not join EDP's fall league. Need a little help with can anyone answer me how come PDA South does not attend many tourney's I notice they play in the NE-NPL league which requires a lot of travel but the North counter parts were at Jeff Cup this past weekend and seems like Shore does plenty also. Just trying to get info before deciding what direction to go with up coming tryouts for Birth Year Change.
FC Maximus at 3 and PDA Nova not on the list? Come on.
http://jeffersoncup.strikerstournaments.com/home/910272.htmlNew Jersey clubs led the way with a total of eight division championships and seven other finalists. A total of 13 Pennsylvania teams went home with hardware, including seven champions and six finalists.Some of the top club performances included Continental FC (3 champions) FC Stars of Mass (2 champions, 1 finalist), FC Boston (2 champions, 1 finalist), Bethesda SC (2 champions), CASL (2 champions), Discoveries SC (2 champions), NJ Wildcats (2 champions), Players Development Academy (2 champions), Premier SC (2 champions), Gwinnett Soccer Association (1 champion, 1 finalist), Southern Soccer Academy (1 champion, 1 finalist), World Class FC (1 champion, 1 finalist), host club Richmond Strikers (1 champion, finalist), Beach FC (2 finalists), Triangle FC Alliance (2 finalists) and Carolina Rapids (2 finalists).
Only one game to report in RCL this past weekend:3 - NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GREY1 - VINCENT UNITED F.C. INTEGRITYRush Grey has now completed play in the White Division and will not advance. SDFC remains in control of the White Division.Previously unreported scores from two weekends ago now updated:0 - EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER GU13 02/031 - KINGS FC 02/03 PREMIER0 - YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER TEMPO2 - KIRKWOOD ACADEMY 02/03 GIRLS
Those Jeff Cup results are so phony.PF played harder teams and did not get rewarded for tying with the most points. All of these other teams that won championships were mostly at lower divisions.
244 well it all re-shuffles again next year as the BYC will impact GS points and standings so tournaments will all be phony up and down all tournament brackets for a year. I personally feel Jeff Cup did a great job in balancing the brackets and even took a chance with the U13 top bracket by placing 2 teams with GS points equivalent or less than some teams on the lowest bracket and look they both made it in the finals knocking out some of the best. As teams get older many teams balance out so strong teams in brackets 1 to 4 could of easily been moved around. Point Jeff Cup has done very good in the past years was to try to give teams newer teams they have never played that's the whole experience. Sorry PF didn't receive and GS points this weekend but either way it all resets next year anyway.
Average goal differential in the U13G Jeff Cup Championship division games was 1 goal. 4 out of the 13 games played, or 30%, ended in a draw. Any of the eight teams could have left the tournament as the champion with a few different bounces of the ball. All in all, a very evenly matched division.
2:24I know you think your PF team is awesome but the results arent phony and the teams in that bracket werent that tough. The finalists from the 2 divisions below you all beat the teams in your division regularly. SdfcCherry hill Arsenal MaximusSTA Are all better than all the teams in that division. However jeff cup buried these teams lower in the brackets and it's obvious that these teams were all mis-flighted.
2:24 you also have nothing to complain about. You lost a game. How can you call results phony when you lose a game? Was it a fake loss? Just curious. Would love to hear about the 1-0 loss to boston.
The pf team did not advance fair and square, they had a good tournament and they are pretty awesome. Almost makes me giddy sometimes.
So much for those teams who claim they have supernatural powers to identify potential in players and then develop it.Looks more like they take the most ready made they can find and make excuses when it's not athletic enough.
You can lead a player to the US training center, but you can't develop chemistry without teamwork.PF philosophy :Individual accolades > Team resultsShowcase environment from day 1Good luck with that
FC Bucks won their bracket at Jeff Cup. Rumor has it that they have a couple Penn Legacy girls locked up to move over. They also added a couple girls already for the Spring that are really really good. Looks like that team could be trending up and maybe the team to beat next year. PF is losing some girls. Im sure they will add a bunch with the DA looming. FCC is a pretty good club as well.
Why would PL players drive 1.5-2 hours to play at Bucks?????That has to be one of the silliest things posted here.Embarrassing.
Dam before people were calling out kids on teams now the blog is calling out dads. I'm sure FC Bucks will attract players as teams get older, once again there older teams seem to do fine. Anyway with the so many teams changing can out of curiousty does anyone have details of cost structure for many of the Premier clubs from NPL to ECNL.
10:13 EstimatesECNL Clubs (NJ,NY,PA): PDA/MatchFit/World Class/East Meadow/Penn Fusion/Continental/FC Bucks Tuition: $2600-$3200 (League, Showcases, Coaches cost for training, travel fees) Uniform: Game/Practice/Winter Wear(Jackets etc.)/Bag - $250 to $400 Travel: Hotel/Air fair/Tolls/Fuel/Food - $1800 to $2200 TOTAL: $4650 to $5800 NPL Clubs (NE NPL/EDP/NY NPL leagues) Tuition: $2200-$2800 (League, State Cups, Region 1, Tournaments) Uniform: Game/Practice/Winter Wear(Jackets etc.)/Bag - $250 to $$400 Travel: Hotel/Tolls/Fuel/Food - $1000 to $1400 TOTAL: $3450 to $4600 Again these are estimates and it's all dependent on how much a individual team does.
1051 seems about right can go either way with cost. Now if parents were smart enough you add that up 5 years and that's your child's 1st/2nd year of college tuition. But we do it anyway for the experience and enjoyment of girls youth up bringing.
Correction to 3/22, 1:48 PM RCL Update:Rush Grey has one game remaining and is not yet eliminated from advancement, but does require much help to advance.
That's the way it is for girl's soccer in America. Very high costs PER player. Sport for the affluent except at low levels. Particularly if a family has multiple players. There definitely is a market for strong players that love the sport but need to control these insane costs. That is the tension that exists at more localized clubs that are genuinely trying to fulfill their mission of serving the players in the community and serving their high level players that won't be leaving to teams that cost thousands year. It is like walking a tightrope for some of these clubs and I giev credit to the ones that are surviving. IT is not an easy task.
@8:14No chemistry needed when the director has a conflict of interest and promotes the best (or maybe just the highest donors) from club in his other role as NTC staff. They aren’t much better than the rest of their team. They never make an impact on GNT/camp. (BTW, why does US Soccer permit this?)
Looking for honest evaluations of the following clubs taking into consideration the following.Penn FusionContinentalBucks1. Coaching2. Players3. Facilities4. Parents
Penn fusionCoaching 9/10Players 8/10Facilities 7/10Parents 7/10
3:13 The DOC also promotes his new recruits to US training wether they deserve to be there or not .. Part of his recruiting package .
3:13 pretty sure they make a bigger impact than the girls who are not there.
Until they get replaced by the new flavor of the month
What teams in nj (central to northern) will be strong for 03s next year? I am thinking of looking at sta, tsf, and sdfc. Thoughts on who will have the strongest team? Any other suggestions?
4:16 that's so stupid. Not at all true. It's his name that looks bad if he puts a player in a TC who is undeserving and gets cut right away. Smh
There are still 2002 PL players showing up at PF trainings desperate to get an offer who didn't initially get one like a few of them did. I doubt they are looking at FC Bucks. Isn't that easy 2 hours from Lancaster?
Sounds like they would be better off going to Continental where they will see the field.
How does a player get called into the U14 GNT pool exactly? ID2 camps? Training centers?
10:04 You're right .I should have clarified more clearly .He replaces the current girls he has in the training center who are deserving with the new recruits who are just as deserving but that he made promises to . It's always out with the old and in with the new .
Talk about manipulating rosters I guess that's how PF does it and reason why they have so many players on the national seen along with TC and other identification programs. Way to manipulate the system. I for one am not big fan of Girls DA but at least it will find the truly is deserving not who just know seems like it working for the boys. All respect to PDA and MF for not using the TC as attracting tool to get players.
Again not true. I know of 2 players who came to PF this year (2002 birth year) who attend training center that were already in it when they signed on. Other new ones have not been recommended. Where are you getting facts? Stop trying to stir the pot.
10:17 - PL players are not all from LANCO. They also come from York, Cumberland, Dauphin, Lebanon, Schuylkill, and Berks counties. For some, travel to Bucks would be the same as travel to PF.
Do you own a map or a GPS? York, Cumberland, Dauphin... All farther than Lancaster. Thanks for helping my point though.
Who cares. Why would anyone want to take their kid to FC Bucks unless they can't make PF.
@843 pm - all good choices, sdfc may be hard to get a slot though, nj crush too
10:17 So are these open tryouts that PF is holding for PL girls interested are those the select ones that have already been given roster positions for next year. Just wondering if it's worth even going to tryouts. So can anyone give me estimates of which teams will have any remote chance of opening roster spots for next year.
9:10 - Points from Dauphin, Lebanon, and Schuylkill can be nearly the same travel time, particularly if one is willing to make that long of a trek in the first place just for the opportunity to play in the ECNL regardless of team quality.
8:43Go where they play the best soccer. PdaSdfcStaArsenal MaximusSecond tierNj crush World classThird tier TsfMatch fitAt u16 id say pda mf and wc.
NJ Crush have 4 teams at the u13 age group. 2 of them- Flames and Heat, 90% of both teams are 03s. The other two have 50/50 02s and 03s. If anyone is an 03 and a high level player looking at other programs in the northern nj area, attending a birth year session or tryout would be in your best interest. They already have 60 players who have signed up for the birth year sessions in April.
@10:07 If your daughter is good enough, there will be roster spots at PF. Their homegrown players generally do not stray, so they begrudgingly accept a spot on their NPL team, which are generally very good.PF NPL teams are often better then ECNL teams.
927 Oh please stop with the marketing. PF NPL teams are not better than their counter part ECNL teams.
@ 9:27 you misspelled PDA
Edp is getting pretty watered down. It seems like the north has 4 strong teams folllowed by central with 3 and south with 2. They should really change it to a super group followed by a second tier. SdfcsusaArsenal maxClarkstownPda shoreRush greyCherry hillPipeline Rush blueAll the other teams are significantly weaker than that group.
Nothing like the warm fuzzy feeling you get from not one, not two, but three never seen before guest players at practice! Can't wait for tryouts to be over 😝
Guest players are good. Motivates rostered players to work harder and smarter.
Just saw it on the U14 blog is it true SJEB merged with NJ Rush?
5:23 - I generally agree, but the spring season is still young. Warrington surprisingly played Pipeline close. Rage Athletica can keep any game close, usually by more brute force than skill, but dangerous anyway. Do not discount SuperNova, which is on a mission to prove they belong in the top flights. PHWM is an inconsistent threat, but did beat Rush Grey at Wags and gave Rush Blue and OP Fire a fight at Bethesda.
"Renegade Blue Barons"?
Wow! Does the merger pertain to Rush teams out of Hamilton as well? Birth year was already giving parents a worry feeling now merging both clubs I assume gives even more a worrisome feeling.
3:13 no impact?? Penn Fusion put a starting holding midfielder on the U17 CONCACAF qualifying team. How many clubs did that 9 or 10? They also have a kid who should be starting at forward, but for poorly timed injuries is on reserve U17 team now. There is one playing internationally on the U19s. Another just named to the 14s. One who has was invited at 14 and 16. One who is a regular in international at u18 play. I am sure I am forgetting many. What are you talking about no impact? Must be a CFC dad. No other PA club comes close to PF for the individual accolades and elite college placement. The ECNL coaching is fantastic. If your kid aspires to the ACC, Big 10 or SEC, you couldn't make a better choice. yes my kids play there and we have been very happy. Before you say well my kid is about to take your kid's spot, I say great, I am a conservative and believe that competition improves everything. So please someone say something great about CFC...
So PF is good and making deals and recruiting players with talent but not developing it . Good for you ! Do you want a medal ? I'm guessing you probably do lol
10:41... Ok I'll give you that fact that there are a number of PF players impacting the national scene. That is impressive. But...While the specific soccer coaching may be good, PF truly falls down on the "life lessons" coaching. They allow players to be spoiled brats and premadonnas. They allow players to yell at each other and at the referees. They create a very unhealthy environment for young women. It does not have to be that way.
Enough with the PA talk 1041. PA teams are still way behind NJ soccer clubs in general. (PDA|MatchFit|Rush|SJEB|SDFC|STA) are still greater than any of PA's Pre-ECNL clubs. Keep Preaching PF accomplishments at youth levels as NJ has proven track record of developing players when they get older on WNT when it matters.
I agree . PF is just the dumping ground for the NJ leftovers .
I don't think 10:41 realizes that 99.999% of the players will come nowhere near the national team. Show me a team that puts players on the national team and I'll show you lots of parents paying for their kids to be practice puppets for those players. There is more to the game than x's and o's.Individual accolades are great, but nobody talks about the burn outs or puts them on their web page. Sure, it's great that a few '02s were asked to national camp, but was there any mention of the three players that have already left the '02 team in mid-season???? Personally, we would choose PAC or CFC before PF. Any club that promotes individual achievements and/or trophies is trying to sell you something..... you get what you pay for.
@10:30 I don't think so.. I believe it is just the south location
NJ soccer is actually counter-intuitive to US Soccer as they prefer to play 11v11 at what, U11/U12? While the NJ teams tend to have the advantage at the U12/U13/U14 age groups, things generally sort themselves out at the older age groups.PDA is just a powerhouse and would not blame anyone that left their club to play there. They play in a very fluid manner with efficient possession and dynamic attacking principles. I have not seen SDFC in action, but have heard good things about this team. Is there enough talent to spread around those NJ clubs? Or do they plateau at the U14/U15 age groups?
11:50am. SDFC have two good age groups, their U12s and 13s. Besides that they are pretty weak above and below those. Other clubs in the North are far stronger across the board. Those are the ones that will succeed long term.
I agree with 11:34AM - all you PA peeps - shut your mouth! You are so funny to keep trying to bring the discussion back to you. No one cares about Penn Fusion. The real story is in New Jersey with this NJ Rush / SJEB merger. Can you say POWERHOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sure! I'll say it POWERHOUSE!!!!!!
But Rush/SJEB is not ECNL and therefore, by definition, must be second tier because top players are only played by ECNL.
1222 Right on! NJ all together is Powerhouse! NJ North: PDA/Matchfit - NJ South: SJEB/Rush PF you can keep your youth wannabe national players with puppet players surrounding them as 11:34 is correct it's not until U17 - U23+ where national scene is important as much as college recruitment. Also when DA clubs are announce next year it will be a different story for your club anyway.
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Give it a rest PF . We get it , you're having an ID . You're in need of more puppet players . Enough already !
I hope the Rush/SJEB merger goes well.In 2009, WCUSC and Spirit United formed Penn Fusion.In 2013, Spirit left to form Continental/FC Delco.Do your homework.
Spirit left Penn Fusion because they wanted a boys DA.Maybe Rush/SJEB merger puts them in a good spot for Girls DA? If they don't get the DA, the merger may implode. The landscape will continue to change as teams jockey for DA spots, or for whatever the next level below it will be.
Sorry 1:32, but the FC Delco boys academy started in 2007.
FC Bucks going with new coaches next year for U14 and U15.
Again just like we chased away the PF bloggers FC Bucks/FC Delco your clubs are still 2nd fiddler to NJ clubs it doesn't matter how many new coaches you get.
1:39 whats to be sorry about. You are both right.FC Delco had the academy, but they needed a partner to provide fields, coaches, player pipeline. Spirit was interested in leaving Penn Fusion and merging with FC Delco because of their academy. Now ex-Spirit and ex-Penn Fusion coaches are running the CFC Academy.If FC Delco didn't have an academy, Spirit never would have merged with them.
What happened to MFA no PDA tournament?
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