I heard Maximus was looking for players and a goalie. I know they currently practice all the time indoors. Has anyone heard of a team not getting outdoors to practice at all?
Indoor practices year round is nice as the parents do not have to worry about cancellations of practices. Only downfall will be if the girls get impacted the weather elements when playing outdoors. (Cold, Rain, Heat etc.)Next question: What does everyone think of the US Youth Champions League starting at U13. Will competition be identical to ECNL or NPL leagues?
My guess on the next and only additional accepted ECNL club in NJ w/ proven team history and their own indoor turf facility, NJ Stallions Academy. They play year round, excellent professional trainers, and also participate in the SYL league.
Nice guess coach...u have one team that is good and has been with 5 different clubs. Your history and reputation will be single biggest reason you have no chance. How is your u12 team? This is a u12 blog
Sorry to hear about NJX . But you are right , parent was annoying and always had an excuse why they almost wonI'm sure two or three will end up at MF and the rest back to Middletown red where they belong.
Another team bites the dust(NJX). We will start seeing this in the next few years, the start of team's disbanding and the best players moving onto stronger clubs while the other players either stop playing or play locally within there areas. I see possibly 6 strong clubs that will continue to be around will be U14. What do think? This is club base not team base. PDAMatch Fit SDFCNJ RUSHSJEBTSF
Njx always claimed they were just a little town team that could almost win a game....why in the world would a little town team break up?
4:08pm. I think you can add STA into that list. All the girls/boys teams are strong. RAGE also have some decent older girls teams.NJ Crush aren't that strong but their other girls teams are competitive.
Other teams...MaximusNJ StallionsBTW....NJ Crush are improving I heard they picked up a couple solid players.and someone else mentioned STA I agree they are getting much better as well.
Disagree with Maximus. I think you'll find their better players will leave (or have left) and the club is not established whatsoever. This group will not be around in a couple of years time.Stallions at this age group are weak, coach is a screamer as well.
Crush is not getting any better, they are getting worse. Still 8v8 and can't get enough to move to 11v11. They are the only team from club not going to Jeff cup. Speaking of Jeff cup, no PDA, I know the team is good and will get better, but why would you want to go play with a team that never plays the game? I wonder if RAGE is going to play 11v11 at Jeff cup? According to got soccer they are king of the world, but they play for a lot of GS points and play 8v8 with little comp.
Crush is getting worse? Up to 14th in State. I know Gotsoccer isn't the end all be all, but they're improving. My kids doesn't player there but I know a few that do. There overall roster has improved over the past 9 months or so.Another 8v8 basher I see.
4:08 your list is a joke. Check club rankings past high school age and half your list is not competitive. Sorry but these mighty might age group parents only know their own age groups which changes completely come high school (I.e recruiting ages).
Wow, nix momma bear is gone..kinda sad. Hope she doesn't show up on our team.
Jeff Cup list is out and No PDA teams? Just wondering why they wouldn't attend a tourney with that many high level teams involved. Any thoughts on the Group A - teams?
Pda goes when it matters, u14 and beyond. Just another tournament at this age. Most teams are from mid Atlantic region and NC.
4:41 agree on PDA "goes when it matters". If your team travels down that far to play a few teams less than 2 hrs from your home field location and you have played in the past year at other tournaments or in league play I don't see the point until U14/15 Jeff Cup is turning into a money pot at the end of the rainbow. Why even travel down there and be placed in the bottom two brackets. These teams are just feeding the club coaches they are attending them with.
I'm confused. I thought NJX was MatchFit?
Nope, not this njx...
The whole MF club and its affiliates is confusing. We played "MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH PRE-ECNL" team and beat them by more than 5 goals. Just look at their EDP scores. So if NJX is falling apart as has been stated, which means they won't be MF team, how does anyone rank MF as a top team?
Match Fit FC North ECNL will attract more girls from their affiliate clubs, by U14 the landscape will change the most dedicated and skillful players end up being on a ECNL/NPL team some where together. All these town or mom & pop start up academies with less than 8 teams playing at a high level will lose their top players.
@941 you must be from SDFC. The team who admittedly played well this fall, but ran up that score. Guess you could not run up the score against IGFA!I just looked at their scores and for a brand new team playing top flight, they did fine. Look at IGFA, like SDFC, just up from 8v8, and had a slow start but beat SDFC. Funny how things change soooo fast at these young ages
10:31am agreed the top flight teams can win/lose on any given weekend. That's the reason why they are in those brackets to assure a more competitive game atmosphere. What coach or parent wants to watch a game winning by 6goals no development there. On another discussion that the U13 blog brought up and is very interesting, since I have daughters at U13 & U12. Does month of birth really matter that much? Do the girls born in the later part of the year outshine the girls born in the beginning of the year and fall back when they are chosen for ID2, ODP etc. What is everyone's thoughts?
@10:31 AM, that doesnt answer my question.
Read the book 'outliers' - its has some interesting discussion on age related success. In it you see cases where hockey players (if I remember right) that were at the early end of the age brackets (i.e. the 'oldest' kids) tended to do better since they were more physically mature. This led to them get put on the 'elite' teams more frequently - which typically had better training. So it became a cycle where the oldest kids initially did better because of physical maturaity differences - and that it got reinforced by putting them into 'elite' groups with better training.ODP's and other groups have different age group cycles - but the same issue would be present. The argument has been made that under 14 groups should be 'bracketed' in 6 month windows at most to minimize these differences which wrongly gives preference to the oldest in a bracket. But I dont see much of a move towards that. Not likely to change - especially in NJ. If you child is on the younger side of the age brackets, up though u14 if they are being left out due to being physically delayed in development - get them some good additional training elsewhere if you aren't getting the opportunities where you are. This way, when puberty hits and physicality starts to even out, they'll be ready to compete and their technical skills will be as good as any others.
11:06am - Thanks for the input, I've heard about that book before as it relates to hockey players, but girls can differ a lot from boys based on their physical abilities and quicker IQ development and maturity level.So does it benefit a girl born in the later part of the year to continue playing up a year at the 6 month window so when they attend programs that account for annual age groups like ID2/ODP they are balanced.
I would prefer the opposite approach. One year window is too small and two year groupings make more sense. I have seen plenty of younger strong players with more ability than older peers. A two year window would allow better grouping by skill and ability. Tighter competition would follow as the teams in the largest age groupings could be more evenly matched by competitive level.
meant larger age groupings
At 1008I believe MF only successes have come from what they took from sdfc, Montclair. they are rebuilding after being raped by MF. MF has never built their own team, they take from the mom and pop. Why waste time and money going to MF now? Just wait till u14 when it matters and hope for the bestThe NJX partnership will blow up soon
NJX is all good now. MF coach is taking over. We shall see who sticks around.
Does anyone know how the age bracket works for ECNL? Ex: Is it Aug 1 2013 through July 31 14 OR calendar year?
Word on the street NJX is losing players. One player already left and 2 are looking to jump ship. This team is so mismanaged it's pathetic. The new coach is just another ploy to try to keep players on a team that is broken.
To bad about NJX - but sometimes change is for the best.Lots of solid options out there - where are people looking to go? What changed at NJX to cause this?
Same thing as when they left Middletown , parents never happy
One is playing up for the Wildcats saw her the other day. Don't think that's a smart move. A bunch of the core players want to go to MF. They are 12 people this is what happens.
This is what happens to mommy and daddy ball. Can only control things for so long. More serious players will look for better competition and meaningful practices.
5:09pm - Very True. Can anyone on this board refer or had experience as having a father/mother coach a team going past U14 and completing the team competing at high level.
5:09pm - Very True. Can anyone on this board refer or had experience as having a father/mother coach a team going past U14 and completing the team competing at high level.
They mean well - but doesn't work.
@1:41 couldnt gree more same stuf goin on in Middletown still with the new team coach bein told what too do to keep parnts happy. will never work that team fall part to they aint won a game and cant find the bak of the net
They should go to pda. The best thing is about pda is that parents have zero say and if they do, they don't last a minute. If your kid is in the bottom half, then you really have no say. Not one parent on that team would last a second and sounds like their reputations will precede them if they go tryout. Stick with MF - they will put up with you until u15 when they don't need you anymore.
@7:22Disagree. Its not typical I'll give you that, but I've seen it happen at a few teams in the past few years. Really depends on the coach, their background and system they've built. If you can find a good coach and team, they can go far. It doesn't have to be paid/academy.
Name one team that isn't paid or academy that has done well in last 5 years...
U19 BOM team did well. There's an example.
8:16am U19 BOM haha- Seriously that age group is 6/7 years above the new landscape. I couldn't agree more with the new ECNL/NPL leagues and changing landscape non academy style team will last past U14/U15.
My issue with soccer lately is lack of commitment. I see more and more kids not showing up and playing other sports instead of fulfilling their soccer commitment. When kids miss practices it effects the entire team. We are all paying top dollar to play on this team. You cant cry your not wining when your child doesn't show up!
11:16am - Time to change teams there are plenty of teams hat have dedicated girls/parents. I agree if parents are complaining about losing but no showing up for practice then it becomes a problem the team is built around athletes only and will eventually fall apart.
NJX going to MF? What happens next year when the tryouts open for all? Will NJX still have their spot if better talent shows? Or will they go bust like NJX Celtics. Didn't they go MF too and MF only took the top players and a few were recruited by another team?. The rest of the girls I believe are going back to town team. I think MF is selling bridges to no where and taking your money and laughing to the bank!
Jeff Cup Top Bracket's announced at the convention congrats on SDFC for being selected.
Anyone's daughter have experience with Next Gen USA programs? What do you think? What have you heard?
Frustrating web site. Can't get easily get a sense of costs. My impression is if you have to ask, you cant afford it.
@9:28 You wanted one example, you got it. Check U14 Brick Fury or U15 Freehold - in fact in every age group from U12 up to U19 I see several town teams in top ten or twenty.
@2:58 Next Gen is good. A good alternative to allow your child to train with more serious players that are generally more advanced.I suppose it depends on who you get as a trainer, but in the Central area Meredith R does it for the girls and she runs a good session.Cost runs in the $40's a session in winter but in the spring/summer/fall is in the 30's.
@12:26 better talent will replace 90% of the current njx team. Parents are blind and don't see their kid are lacking athleticism. they are slow and sluggish cant get to the ball fast enough. in my opinion njx is missing not only that but the same spark and love for soccer they once had. you see a difference in the team. out with the old in with the new!few will go mf, others will be on lower mf team or back to their town team. this will be a real eye opener for the parents!
9:28-Did you call these teams and asked them what they did to survive as a town team? I've seen many town teams that are controlled by mom/pop don't really have a chance to survive. For a town team to have success first they should have had legit tryouts and recruit skilled players to replace the non-committed and unskilled players - then you can have a strong town team. The highly skilled players typically leave town teams for better competition and development!
4:00-Hey NJX parent did you really see the NJX player that went to wildcats? I heard rumors she left for higher-level skills development. NJX had poor coaching and development. The 12 core that aspire to go to MF only 1 or 2 will make it to MF the rest are dreamers and eventually be weeded out. It will be an eye opener for the parents!
There are many soccer choices in nj. Every player should be able to find a program/team that suits their ability/interest level. By u12, the players and parents have a pretty good idea about what might be a good fit.
@11:22 If you have a child that lands in the middle of the pack does that mean their is no room for improvement and you stay on a lower team? Do you need to be the starter that plays all the time, or scores all the goals to advance? How do you truly judge for your child what is a "good fit"? I don't buy into the win/loss crap and know how my child is developing.(slow and steady while improving) I am just concerned about all the choices out there and all the promises with the big price tag.We send her for no outside training. We are considering trying out for Match Fit or PDA. Any advice you can give on how to find that "good fit"? I have been told she will never make it due to lack of foot skills and I need to develop them now. Looks like everyone is in a rat race to make their child the best. I am looking more for the "best fit".
Why do people care so much about NJX?? Some will leave some will stay. Who cares? New MF coach has already reached out to a few.
@158. Where does your girl play now ? I know a couple of players on pda and they do outside supplemental training. Idk if that is typical or just what she feels she needs to do (or the parents feel).
This board spends a lot of time on NJX. It's a little weird.Can't we stick to sharing some good advice from those who have been thru the competitive girls soccer experience before?
I agree. Little weird on this board's focus of NJX. Possibly unhappy parents trying to get their daughters off that team. Anyway. This next year is probably going to have many changes on many teams. U13 will be a good age to really try and get your child on a team where they can mold together. Of course, depending on how your child plays. Always good to look around at different teams and keep the options open. Some girls may even start to lose interest in soccer. Has anyone's child lost their interest or have other children that it's happened to?
If your daughter is on a mediocre team and she has very good skills and soccer knowledge then she will never grow if there is NO challenge. You have to decide when it’s time to move your daughter to better her development and skills. I have 2 daughters, u12 and u15 and my older daughter is struggling to keep up with talent because we didn’t move her to a more competitive environment. At u12 they should have great foot skills, know how to dribble and pass in a triangle and look up to find team mates, and have very good field vision. Ball hogging is a bad habit that players have acquired in the past and probably cannot break it. I learned from my older daughter’s experience and I won’t make the same mistake for my younger one. Good luck and find the right fit for your daughters. The longer you stay the worse it will be for their development. And I have seen some girls that don’t get challenged eventually lose interest and quit the sport all together.
@10:00 Thank you for the advice. My older son never played soccer. His sport was baseball. Soccer is such a different sport all around.I will begin looking at teams and training for my daughter.
U12 is not "too late" to make significant gains in soccer skills. But a player has to do the work. A good teacher is critical, but no one can learn anything for you, You must must put in the work to do that for yourself.
Realistically, pursue the best teaching in your budget. Obviously some clubs are out of reach financially for many players. There is probably no perfect fit, just the best match you can make for your child.
Anyone know anything about IGFA in this age group? Seem to do ok. What are their costs?
Let's talk summer camps. Anyone know of any really good overnight camps?
11:58 Think what you will. I hope you have been looking at some of the competitive teams at U12 out there. Some are well trained and developed at this point. You think it's "NOT TOO LATE"? You are being a fool. As long as your child stays on a mediocre team the more bad habits she will retain and cannot break and will not develop. Now is the time to get the proper development and training because in 2 years it will really matter at u14. Even if you are getting great training now, but if the players on the team don't have great soccer skills on the field it will still hurt your child's development.
What teams are going to the NJ Indoor State Cup in a few weeks?
me·di·o·cre adjectiveof only moderate quality; not very good.synonyms: ordinary, average, middling, middle-of-the-road, uninspired, undistinguished, indifferent, unexceptional, unexciting, unremarkable, run-of-the-mill, pedestrian, prosaic, lackluster, forgettable, amateur, amateurishI think that pretty much describes most youth players in the state including on some of the so called top teams. Some people need to get over themselves. Even the non mediocre players are not going pro.
Hey thanks for the English lesson. Are you a teacher? Oh that’s right you are off today for MLK shouldn’t you be grading papers for tomorrow’s class? It seems that “mediocre” struck a cord. LOL!
OK. Let's hear the "bad habits" that my mediocre 11 year old is doomed to possess if she does not hi-tail it to some super club
What about the two kids being recruited off my daughter's lower level "mediocre" team by a high level team? How could they be desirable players coming from such a poor environment?
IGFA beat sdfc - so I believe they have a decent team. Hearing just as much about njx and MF on u13 board.This is current news - so it should be the most talked about currently.
What is this mediocre team ? And who is recruiting ?
Who cares. If a kid is not already training with a top academy team at U12 it is too late.
That was true a few years ago, but now it's more like u-10. And even then she needs to be playing up by at least two years to have any real chance of playing in college
Why take any chances. Smart parents will relocate to Germany and have your girls train there.
9:50am - @U10 seriously. There are many avenues to play college it's not necessarily trying to find a strong club, if you are on a team competing at High Level and your daughter is in the Top 2 or 3 on the team she will always be noticed and will have top teams to play for in the years to come.
10:21That's not what my DOC here at the Academy said!
If DOC believes @U10 you need to move to a high level team go tell your greedy money hungry DOC to read the below article. I got it from one of the older blogs since I have an older daughter around this her age.http://articles.philly.com/2014-10-10/sports/54832404_1_soccer-success-college-soccer-winslow-township Of course there are several paths but you should not be thinking about that at U10 and barely speak about it at U12 they are still developing. 50% of these girls right now at U12 will most likely move away from this game once at U14/15.
NC State is a bottom D1, ranked in the 200's. I hope people don't rate that as a successful marketing job by her dad(winslow coach by the way). On a proper club that kid would have been a top 50 recruit.
11:17I know you are feeling like a complete failure as a parent right now, like if you ruined your daughters entire life by not getting her over here to the Academy by the time she was six. I was in the same boat is you just a few short months ago. Don't worry there is still a sliver of hope for her. They have something here at the Academy called private training, and for only about $100 per session the DOC will work directly with her until she gets caught up. It's usually one night per week but if she really shows promise they'll let you do more! Mind you this program is not for everyone. You will have to show the director what type of car you drive so he can tell if your daughter will be a good fit for the program. In only six short months my daughter has progressed enough that she's ready to dress with the rest of her teammates. Our coach says if she keeps working hard she might get some playing time in the spring! Her mother and I are so proud of her. Oh, and to save the hassle of writing checks the director allows you to pay him directly in cash. I love the Academy!
I call it a success. Good for her!
247th to be exact, and that is entirely the type of misinformation town type teams spread to their current players to scare them into staying. Then at u15 the parents are on a mad scramble trying to land on a real club. If you think your kid has potential to play high level soccer, go for it. Better than looking back and saying...... I shoulda woulda coulda.
Finally this blog is picking up. What does it matter if it's a bottom or middle D1 school she is still doing what she loves to do and achieve an education out of without a ton of student's after she is all said and done. Good for her and the family. You never know the school could be the bottom but may end up in the middle with a couple new recruits. Like many have said if your child is showcasing enough someone will recruit her either you play on academy or not. 12:17pm $100 per session to train with the DOC that was hilarious, I love the sarcasm.
Obviously the educational and recruiting advantage in youth sports can be bought and paid for like many things in this society. Good for the kids that persevere and get to realize their dreams by more difficult route.
Njx is losing teams and players across the board. U13 board lit up with angry parents. We can all hate PDA, but this crap doesn't happen there. MF is a joke and getting worse.
MF will end up re-establishing themselves by U14. They are an ECNL club so by U14 talented girls will end flocking to them.
12:37-You can spend all your savings on training and development and the BIG ACADEMIES, but you cannot BUY talent, period!!!!! You either have it or you don’t. You need to be an athlete first and then a soccer player and with great efforts of commitment, time and sacrifices that are made to be one of the best. You can’t buy a college coach either, because once your daughter is out there and she can’t perform, shame on the coach. Therefore, you can’t buy talent…you are born with it. I wonder how many trainers are laughing to the bank when they see players that don’t have an ounce of athleticism in their bones…but parents are willing to pay hoping they will BLOOM!
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@129I guess there's no hope for any of these young girls then. They are 11 and they only have a shot of playing soccer if they are perfect players now I guess. So glad I do not live with you. You must run around screaming the sky is falling. I have been an athlete my whole life. I've met many others and there is only one trait that counts above all: dedication. Without that, no amount of God given talent counts. Oh and try not to talk to your 11 year old about your opinions. Because it appears that she will be doomed in life if she believes what you do. No one is born perfect
@2:48 Well Said! CCommitment, Dedication, Heart will can over come any gifted player. Not every girl has the height of Abby Wambach, or the Speed of Morgan or Leroux. The most athletic player on the WNT is Hope Solo and she is a the keeper. So there is a place for each girl let them dream at 11-12 years old and as parents give them the opportunities if it is given to you. Success or Fail at least they had the experience they remember the rest of there lives.
Jan 20 10:26 poster: it has certainly happened to PDA, and undoubtedly will happen again, unless they change their ways. Two years ago, not one but two U13 girls teams left PDA north, en mass, and went to Matchfit. Including the coach of the second team. Those players are now the Matchfit NPL U15 team, and some are on the ECNL team.PDA coaches have also forgotten to bring their coaching and player cards to state cup game(s) and have had to forfeit and exit state cup during the first round. There are countless other horror stories in the not so distant past. Just ask former PDA players. NJX has not cornered the market on bad behavior and unacceptable errors.
Gloucester Twp, NJ, January 22, 2015 - New Jersey Rush Soccer Club announced today that Rage FC Premier has agreed to a merger with NJ Rush. Rage FC Premier will bring six premier level girls teams and two premier level boys teams into the NJ Rush family. They will be based out of the New Jersey Rush facility located in Gloucester Twp, NJ. The merger will expand the opportunities for growth and development for the Rage FC Premier players and coaches. Rage FC Premier has built a strong program in the 4 years since their inception that has included 5 State Championships. Their teams will now join an already strong group at NJ Rush that boast 6 currently reigning NJ State Champions.“We are happy and proud to welcome the Rage FC Premier teams into the New Jersey Rush family,” said Sandeep Mehtani, Executive Director of NJ Rush. “We are impressed with the level of play among their teams and the high quality of coaches who have led in their development. With the addition of the Rage FC Premier teams, NJ Rush continues to be on the cutting edge of player and team development, not only in New Jersey but in the region and throughout the country.”Combining forces with New Jersey Rush, the Rage FC Premier teams will now have more opportunities for advancement, as players will be a part of a Rush program that has a national presence and, in some cases, international opportunities.“I am excited that our club has the opportunity to join the Rush family,” said Rage FC Premier President Dave Debreceni. “We have worked hard over the past 4 years to develop players skills with the goal of competing at the highest levels. Joining Rush is the next logical step to continue this. I believe the development goals and model of the Rush program will allow our players to continue to grow; providing pathways that we cannot provide today.”Following the lead of Rush International, NJ Rush continues to spread “the Rush Way” philosophy of coaching and training throughout New Jersey. Their model of affiliating with grass-roots programs like those at Highland Youth Soccer Club and Hamilton Girls Soccer Club, gives NJ Rush something that no other academy level program in New Jersey can offer. Most academy level programs in New Jersey acquire players at older ages who have already progressed beyond the formative years of player development. Through their affiliation model, New Jersey Rush is able to influence and develop players, as early as 4 years of age, using the most modern “best practice” teaching methods. New Jersey Rush is clearly on the cutting edge with their player development model and proving to be a strong leader in the New Jersey soccer community.For more information about New Jersey Rush Soccer Club or their affiliate and player development programs, contact Executive Director, Sandeep Mehtani, at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Holy *&#@!! PDA must be shaking in their cleats!! Rush poised to take over as top academy program in the state.
I got that e-mail this morning, my decision has been made. Next year we will be leaving the number one club in the country and heading over........... not.
Great comeback. What was talk to the hand taken?? What year is it?
Did I read that correctly "6 Premier level girls teams and 2 premier level boys teams" Is that correct? lol GPS, NJ RUSH can merge or take over clubs here and there but there will only be a few select clubs to truly go to PDA and Match Fit after everything is all said and done.
FC Copa was busted at nationals for playing illegal players last year. PDA's card drama was a stupid, brain fart moment. Copa's card drama actually required pre-meditated thought and planning. PDA's was at states. Copa's was at nationals. PDA's occurred outside of Philadelphia. Copa parents trolling blogs - where were nationals? How far did those players have to travel?
That's gonna be one heck of an NPL team
Question for some PDA parents....since there isn't a U9 blog. I'm thinking about trying out my daughter for PDA in May or so for the Fall season, which will be U10. Is there a lot of politics involved to get her on the "A" team? She's a great talent, but I know how some of these clubs work. They don't want to cut kids off the A team, so they offer you a B tm proposal. I live close to an hour away so I don't think it's worth it to travel that far if you're not on the top team. I understand the training is really good, but there is also good training other places that are much closer...Thoughts? Thanks
(1:44PM) No politics, they take the best and cut the worst so if you want your daughter in the cattle shoot until someone else pushes her out then that is the place for you. Your comment is laughable. All PDA does is cut players and then take the next best thing. PDA will always have some type of success. And like that TRUTH guy said, the King stays the King. But sometimes the King gets overthrown and my opinion is that the King's antics are antiquated and a model that isn't working for the educated soccer family with a middle class income. With coaching education being extremely available and accessible and the interest in soccer growing daily in this country, families no longer have to be beholden to the King because there are plenty of great programs with knowledgable and caring coaches. This Rage / Rush merger is interesting and definitely places Rush as the major player in South Jersey soccer. And while the merger is quite interesting, all of the unknowns that come with the merger are even more interesting. What happens from here? Who else moves to strengthen that club? Time will tell. This is one to watch.
Ok, I'll be the first to say it. Rage brought 8 teams into the merger. Of those, only the Renegades qualifies as an elite team and even they were still playing 8v8 and had their own challenges ahead going full sided. Rage the club was a survival risk and that's why they threw in the towel. ALL of their teams were parentally coached. Great website, nice uniform kits etc, but they we never the real deal just another start up faux academy. They merged rather than suffer a slow steady demise and for that I say they did the right thing for those 8 teams. Rush benefits by eliminating another competitor and getting one good team to work with. Beyond that it's not a landscape changer in any way.
Why bring FC Copa into conversation? This is the PDA blog. Lol. PDA ha enough issues of their own without confusing them with someone else's. Lots of drama between north vs. south, and north second team fighting for an identity other than the forgotten stepchild.
2:34 Well said and totally agree it gives the teams that are not categorized as an Elite team somewhere to play in future or have the backing from RUSH to pull more quality players onto those teams to get there. It will take time to digest and if they continue the "RUSH WAY" it should be a good decision for club. In my eye's it's not technically a merger more a bigger brand taking over a mom & pop shop that has done well in the past years but needed that extra backing to put them where the big boys play.
How does the RUSH model differ from Matchfits?
RUSH Model is to take over high level playing teams which are establish within there network of clubs that pay the Dunkin Donut franchise fee in Hamilton, Highland, and now Rage and make them RUSH teams this is extra $$ to parents. MatchFit a little identical but with a bigger network but instead affiliate with clubs instead. Holmdel, Summit, Montclair, Parsippany, Berkeley and forming teams within that network than at U14 merging the best players to play ECNL. Continued opportunities to girls to always attend and make the ECNL squad. A little more like PDA with the affiliates. PDA has North, South, and Shore clubs.
The funny thing is that there has been no mention on the other age groups blogs about the merger. I guess it was only brought up in this blog due to the 1 team being worthy of an premier status. So you know it was someone from the team that posted the merger details. I can see a battle of U12 teams in the NJ Rush Club, who will prevail?
The flip side to not cutting players are mediocre teams. Kudos to the clubs who thought at U8-U10 they could develop talent by having no cuts. Looks like time has caught up with those who didn't do cuts. I always wondered why these clubs/teams had "tryouts." If you don't cut, why advertise for players??
Well if club is not attracting enough players to fill teams then you can't cut. Can someone tell me the average numbers of players that get cut on PDA top teams from U13 to U16?
Will rush and rage combine teams. That will be nice to have another quality club in the south.
Rush hamilton and now Rush Rage are definitely going to be battling for top. The two clubs are ro far apart from eachother in location and they both have teams with a full roster. I'm sure Hamilton might not be feeling to happy about that. And for the Head of Rush, it's $$, business for them.
Are people that crazy to be blogging at 1am in the morning. lol Doesn't matter Rush nationwide organization I'm sure they will figure things out among the clubs in NJ. Of course $$ are involved and I'm sure tuition will be raised to accommodate the fees.
For the comment on the 1am poster....you don't knoe their situation. they could work different hoursFor the person with the getting cut question. I heard TSF cuts a lot, but I know some clubs won't especially at a young age like U8 to U10 or so
Spring EDP bracketshttp://events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=43269
So PDA Galaxy, Crew and Shore are in the same bracket?
3 PDA teams in the same bracket, I'm calling it now 1 of those teams will end up very unhappy by season's end. Plus PDA's U11 team moved up to play in the 2nd division 11v11.The 8v8 bracket will have compelling discussion once again.
The real issue for Pda is playing each other in league when I'm sure they scrimmage all the time togetherDoesn't leave them with many games, but it doesn't look like their coach likes to play games anyway
Wow 3 PDA teams plus the south playing in high level brackets. This will only achieve what they are aiming for in 2 years, a top notch ECNL team at U14/U15.
Galaxy (+ 1 player from Nova with legacy) is the ECNL team. Perhaps some Crew players earn a bench spot as a token gesture and to provide hope so the parents keep them at PDA, If anyone thinks any PDA Shore players are making the ECNL team, PDA has done a wonderful job selling TR the new uniforms.
Crew is a very good team and they have about 2 or 3 I would imagine that could make the jump. There will be a few from Galaxy that get asked down and a few that will leave for 100% playing time somewhere else(careful what you wish for). They will also pick up at least 3 or 4 over next year and that will make the ecnl team... Problem is that they will have to play MF, WC and a bunch of other teams that won't be strong for some time, if ever. Going ecnl and staying there could get very boring until u15 , 16 and 17.
Can njx confirm they won't be playing in spring together.
7:59am - Very Good insight and good outlook to what to expect. Like you said PDA North is in a tuff jam with being ECNL and you may be correct that there will not be competitive teams to play until U15+. Hopefully there will be more crossover games among the NPL teams as well.
9:47am. Hence the problem with ECNL. Just because it's the top league in the country it does not mean it contains the top teams. If you look at the ECNL league at the older age groups you notice the vast difference in the good teams and bad teams. Some teams are getting beat 6-0 every game.PDA as a group isn't as strong as it once was. There is so much talent being developed at other clubs with better coaching than you will find at PDA. It's no coincidence that the A team has lost to a team within the State (SDFC). The gap is getting smaller and to think otherwise is naive.
Agreed time will only tell, I think EDP in the NY, NJ, PA, DE has done a nice job not segmenting the ENCL/NPL teams yet to assure less travel for parents for weekend games. I think with the spring league along with US Club State Cup games, the EDP Open Cup, and various strong tournaments (Jeff Cup, PDA Spring Kick Off, EDP Spring Cup, FC Delco). All this will provide the area teams good enough competition to keep our teams rank highly enough that hopefully teams from very far away like OH, VA, MD, NC come looking for games towards us in the future. Let them chase our region until U15.
“Wow, nix momma bear is gone..kinda sad. Hope she doesn't show up on our team.”“Njx is losing teams and players across the board. U13 board lit up with angry parents. We can all hate PDA, but this crap doesn't happen there. MF is a joke and getting worse.”"Can njx confirm they won't be playing in spring together."If you look at the EDP schedule someone posted, you will see they are listed, which would lead one to conclude they are playing in the spring. You’re obsession with this group of young girls is alarming. Chris Hanson may be showing up at your door (or sideline of your game) any day.
Okay...I am starting to feel bad for the NJX families/players. I could be wrong, but I am starting to think that the NJX hating is coming from that club/team itself. I don't think any other team's parents would keep knocking on that team like this, bringing so much negativity, unless it was a personal vendetta. Possibly a current parent of a child on the team that is feeling angry, or parent that has recently left and throwing their hate out there.
It's just the immature parents that post negativity on these blogs. There are plenty of parents that come on this blog to give/get information or insight of what is happening at this age level, myself included. Matchfit has ties with NJX if they are unhappy among all the age groups than how long will there affiliate the last parents should be happy they have the backing of Academy club. Has anyone seen a bad merger or affiliate the past 4/5 years occur and give an example if the club did not resign?
I think how NJX bills itself is very telling. On GotSoccer they are Holmdel NXJ Sol (MFA U-12). Is this because they want to remain known as NJX Sol? To keep their GotSoccer points? Their MF affiliation isn't too important to them hence the ( )? Or does this club has split personalities since they have 3 identifiers in their name?I think MF, WC, etc will get better as kids try out for those teams and leave their town teams. I don't think Galaxy cares too much about local competition. If they did they wouldn't have gone to Chicago last year to play.
5:38pm. Incorrect regarding Galaxy traveling to Chicago. The whole PDA girls side goes to Eclipse every year. Has nothing to do with local competition.
When the heck is Chris Hanson getting to this guys keyboard? NJX should change their name completely and leave the state the way this whacko obsesses with them. If my daughter played for them I would look into a restraining order. Coo-coo....
Don't ever move to Pda, you would accuse every other poster of being coo coo. Then again they would never want you, heard you are the biggest reason for njx problems. Has nothing to do with kids, all parents on this team.
“Wow, nix momma bear is gone..kinda sad. Hope she doesn't show up on our team.”“Njx is losing teams and players across the board. U13 board lit up with angry parents. We can all hate PDA, but this crap doesn't happen there. MF is a joke and getting worse.”"Can njx confirm they won't be playing in spring together.""I think how NJX bills itself is very telling. On GotSoccer they are Holmdel NXJ Sol (MFA U-12). Is this because they want to remain known as NJX Sol? To keep their GotSoccer points? Their MF affiliation isn't too important to them hence the ( )? Or does this club has split personalities since they have 3 identifiers in their name?""Don't ever move to Pda, you would accuse every other poster of being coo coo. Then again they would never want you, heard you are the biggest reason for njx problems. Has nothing to do with kids, all parents on this team."Move on already. Your obsessed. You're making a fool of yourself again. But I guess we have all come to expect that from your kind. Follow the example of the intelligent bloggers on here who add value, discuss different tournaments, leagues, developments at other ages or youth soccer in general. Your obsession with NJX is troubling. I guess now that Jackson is no more the haters need a new target.
7:26 has to a NJX parent. Funny how only a few months ago they were bragging about themselves.
I'm confused. The blog said NJX broke up, girls fled to other teams. Why would parents on a team that no longer exists be posting here still? Where did all their girls go? Why is MF pre-ECNL team playing in the 2nd division but NJX is listed in 1st division if they don't exist? I get so confused following this blog. And wouldnt the ECNL team be the top team? Its like Galaxy playing in 2nd division and Crew playing 1st? Or like LYON BLUE playing up a year instead of LYON.
NJX is still a team so give it up people. They will be playing this spring. Looks like the MFA team is playing preecnl teams in that division. Why are all these teams listed as 2nd division. Except for the two town teams who will have a tough time there. Then the "PDA"division is playing the same teams over and over again for the past two years. I don't understand the brackets. They do not make much sense. And no crossover games. So arsenal and TSF can play themselves for the twentieth time?
She is back. It all started with her Middletown rants and what a great town team they were.
@1147. I'm not NJX. I'm tired of these parents wishing ill on 11 year olds. It's OBVIOUS they are playing in spring. I'm just making comments about EDP brackets. You tell me why teams are all over the place.
Could someone explain why PDA allowed their three teams to play one bracket? They are all good but not equal. At all.
What other choice does Pda have? Galaxy will get the worst draw, but all other teams are pretty equal. The south division travel would be brutal, the north is very weak.
At 1150Sure your not
Its a shame Monika and Paul have a loon on their middle daughters team. They are such nice people and her girls love the program. I guess she'll have to speak to Mike and Glenn again about the code of conduct policy and how the parents who do not have older sibling in the program should act. She knows who you are btw. We should see the PDA conduct policy posted on here again soon.
Teams are probably in certain divisions because of the competition, don't want to travel too much, or aren't that good.
Thanks. But in some brackets. Teams ranked 120 are facing teams in top twenty. I know the gs ranks don't count for much but they do mean something.
NJX will field a team. They can draw from Holmdel to replace players. Or a player could jump ship and head to NJX knowing a spot is open.
Njx only lost one player and as we all know one player is not the team. Any other moves made by players over winter?
I wouldn't say 1 player is not the team. A single player that is very talented could be a game changer.If a team loses that game changer a coach may have enough talent left over from the team to adjust the formation to accommodate the missing talent. Either way players can rise or step up and you never know 2 years from now how the landscape will change.
At 11-12. No one player is a team unless you are talking travel or town level where one fast forward makes a difference. At academy and club level, you need more than one player. Dare I say at least 6 on field to play that level to compete. No one player is a team
Going to wildcats u13 team, this player had to be top 3. That will make a difference on this team.
@513 I do not know which player it is, but you state had to be top 3, so there are at least two others who can play according to your reasoning. Dare i suggest there may be a few more?
You certainly seem to know a lot about NJX, even knowing where the player who left went to play for. What an interesting life you must live.
or the poster is the one with the traveling kid
Good luck to the girl that went to u13 wildcats. I hope she is ready for much craziness and criticism.
Reading through this blog over past two years, I would have to say NJX brings everything on themselves. What gets really low is when you start talking about the people that leave the team and now they are bad people. What about when you guys up and left Middletown? Leaving half a team because you thought you were better than the ones you left behind? Looking back, you should have stayed, you were a better team at u10.
If I was a parent looking to move my daughter this coming summer for the next Fall season which teams do many of you think have upside outside of the PDA's and MatchFit's clubs.
@ 10:57 amWhat area do you live in? Is soccer your daughter's only focus? How many days is she willing to train and are you willing to take her as a parent?
Some FACTS for 8:33 am, who clearly knows nothing of what she speaks:Show where anyone spoke poorly of the player or the players family who left? Hasnt happened even once. The comment someone made about her being ready for criticism I'm sure is about her new coach, who is a well known yeller. Just look at the u13 Blogs, The Wildcats are a major topic.Next, you claim "half the team was left behind". Every single player left from Middletown together to play for NJX. Not one single player did not make the move. Not a single player was cut at that time, and no one form the original group at u8 has been cut to this day. You talk out of your behind with not a stitch of knowledge. I know you're not adult enough to admit when you are proven wrong, so do us all a favor and just crawl back in your hole.
1:02: I think 8:33 said "half a team" not "half the team". So 8:33 was accurate.
Looks like EDP flights have changed - thoughts?
How funny, shore is playing far far away in North, and a few little additions. The geographic monikers seem to matter very little
Nice to see Rage Renegades playing 11v11.
I must say I agree with the comment about half the team. Every girl that was on the team went to NJX with us. As for the girl that left we all wished her luck. Please get your facts straight before you write on here. It's not like we don't know whose writing on here.
half A team is 100% accurate. half THE team is not. Facts are facts
So Middletown has 3 teams1 Team leaves1/2 a team is leftMust be new math. "Fact" disproved. Your daughter was on one of the three teams (we know which one since you identified yourself), so aim your bitterness at her former coach or the other coach. Its been several years and your still gnashing your teeth in anger and complaining to everyone in town how little Sally was wronged. You bad mouth the coaches, spoke poorly of players on the team who you were certain little Sally was better then. Yet somehow the team who went to NJX was supposed to turn down what they felt then and still feel certain was a better opportunity for kids who were never on their roster, and whose parents were malcontents? Ridiculous. Its travel soccer, not every kid makes the team. Move on already. And stop coming to tryouts if you hate the team so much.And you still havent shown proof of the Sol parents bashing the player who left. Never happened. The girls are all still friends, parents are friends, and we all wish her well. You...not so much.
Does anybody know any good overnight soccer camps in the summer? Seems like lots of colleges have camps. Would probably be a good experience for the girls if a few friends go together, right? Anybody know any good ones?
Red bulls runs a girls only camp that's good. Four days at peddie school usually, it requires a tryout. Rutgers runs two different overnight girls camps. All pda coaches so the board will jump on it and say its a joke. Lol. Truthfully, the training was good but the overnights were boring and the food was blah. In the Berkshires there is a nice overnight girls camp with good training and fun for girls as well.
1:02pm -The person who is mocking the wc coach on this blog is a real fool (we know who you are). Are you jealous because he got his team to be #1 in the nation? He is an effective coach and you have NO right to berate him because of your insecurities. Your daughter will never make it with him as a coach. So take your baby back to rec soccer and crawl back in your hole!
Is it ok to complement a player or coach on this board? Does that ever happen?
Nope! It's all about jealousy. Very sad. I do have to say if the WC coach had any common courtesy he would have told the parents of the girl that left NJX to finish out the spring season. Again that's the right thing to do.
Somebody from Middletown is getting a lot of blame for njx comments. I make some that he or she is getting blamed for, I just can't stand the blog comments from them over the past few years, so I make comments to see the response. I could give you a hint of what team my daughter plays for, but not yet. As for the girl that left for spring, congrats, huge step up and take it when you can. Tons of people leave at this time. Can't wait to play you guys against and watch the frantic sideline pacing - the stress makes me laugh watching you.
Pal if that's what gets you excited I feel bad for you!
First of all, I'm not your pal. And who calls someone pal? Why are you on this blog? You have no issues? Not that you have anything to do with NJX, but when people talk a big game and then crash and burn, human nature eats it up... Have you ever played against them? Or are you a troller from an older blog? funny to watch the parents run up and down the sideline - you would know if you daughter played this age group.
They are 11 year old girls.. Run with them. Life's too short..
When do the draws for the pda spring kickoff tournament get posted?
does anyone know when the state futsal schedule is posted?
1:02 said "Not a single player was cut at that time, and no one form the original group at u8 has been cut to this day."Is this why a MF coach has taken over at NJX?
Best thing that could happen to NJX. Especially for those that want to play at a higher level.
How come NJX is getting a new coach? Didn't they already have a top coach?Don't you think if the new NJX coach wants a top-flight competitive team, he/she will have to hold open tryouts? Then Holmdel will have a first team (NJX) and a second team playing as a Holmdel "town" club. All the girls will still have a place to play. And I think Holmdel has a u12 girls team in the top flight in MOSA, so they're not too shabby.
NJX has a MFA coach now. He's looking for a few new girls. All is good.
Why? Thought someone said only one player left.
Was the NJX "top coach" cut?
NJX coach was not cut. Please only post if you have the facts.
All you MF hopefuls be careful what you wish for...this is what is trending on the older blog, "MF npl, players quit yes and players that are still there don't want to be. Didn't want to jump ship mid year. Players are also playing for the ecnl team and the npl team. Lots of anomosity. Bad bad situation. Good thing they have 4 teams to pull from. Soon it will be down to 2 teams all up north. Complete opposite of what was promised." Good luck with this organization...seems its losing players and reputation! So sad!
@ 10:28 Why wouldn't it be okay to play NPL and ECNL games? PDA does the same thing with their top players. More soccer is better for the girls who want it. Nothing wrong with that. The only parents that will come on here talking bad about the top academies in NJ are the parents of the girls who are not the top few players of their teams. period.
Wutta ya think...Maximus Back2Back NJ Indoor state cups?
Funny Post - Indoor State Cup! That's a riot for a team still playing 8v8.
Indoor State Cup is practice, warm uo for spring, its not a ranked event.
The upcoming Futsal Tournaments carry more weight than Indoor Cup.
Futsal doesn't carry weight either. It is useful only to work on footwork and quickness. Spring counts.
State Indoor Cup is a joke Mr G Maximus - only like 6 teams even play in it. Whatever floats your boat. See what happens when you go large sided. All about rankings, points and recruiting for a rogue team.
State Indoor is good warm up as long as quality teams participate similar to any winter league. It all comes down to who enters tournament and league games. Same goes for futsal. There is always benefit playing quality teams.To move into spring the US Club Sanctioned State Cup will be interesting. Surprise's me that so many town level teams enter it.
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I hear most are loving the new MF coach. Some parents although are worried there kids won't make it with MF. Unfortunately that's soccer . Now some parents on NJX will realize that there kids are not all that.
So true! My daughters team plays them and there are a few. You got a mixture over there. Some don't pass,one girls I noticed yells at her teammates and never looks up. There defense does well and there's a very good outside mid. She sees the field well and should really think about moving on. Just my opinion.
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