the only teams that should be allowed to play up are teams like O'Reilly.they have NEVER, EVER been beaten by a new jersey team.
agree...if there are teams that haven't been beaten by teams in their own age brackets and even are coming out with 'at worst' ties, they are the ones who should be allowed to play up. There are only a a few teams like that in NJ in this age bracket.
E Brunswick tournament this weekend schedule is out. Why in the world is Hamilton in second bracket? They will walk all over the bracket and will be a waste of their time to play.
That is not the Hamilton team from the Jags league, it's a different Hamilton team. They play in the South Jersey league.
My my aren't we cocky at age 10. Lol. The top teams, especially town teams, will rise and fall as puberty hits. Your team is no exception.
I agree, in my many years involved with youth soccer from my older children, I have seen MANY town teams fall because an overwhelming majority of the coaches do not know the fundamentals of the game; therefore, they cannot teach such to their players. How many of these town coaches have played high level competitive or collegian soccer? Most have only played in high school. And, in the long run, they end up hurting their players more than helping them. The competition in terms of coaching and playing soccer now-a-days has gotten so intense/competitive, which some of these coaches are no longer able to function and compete. But, too many are prideful and rather ruin a team than hand it over to a more skillful/competent coach for the sake of the development of the players and the entire team.
Why would any coach allow their players to score 10-11 goals when the other team has no chance of scoring or winning? What type of sportsmanship is the coach teaching his/her players? (Especially if the game has no relevance on league or state cup championships.)A little secret, if a team is winning by a 10-11 goal differential, then you are not playing with a worthy opponent. Therefore, you are just beating up on a much weaker team. Is that really how you want to win? What about winning when it matters, or when playing with more competitive or equal skilled teams?!?!?
8:01 posterComment seems irrelevant to the conversation. This comment about anyone special? Man up and say it.
it's a blog, man up 6.32, conversations change.not an insult 8.01, it this your first kid to come through youth soccer? most people think the same way when they first encounter blow outs.what you might not see is that opposing coach could be:playing everyone in unfamiliar positions.playing subs more than starters.only allowing them to score with their weak foot.making them pass a certain number of times before they are allowed to shoot.only allowing them to score off headers.playing down a player or 2.or any combination of the above. these are things a good coach will do when their team is clearly more skilled then their opponent. some coaches don't care and never quit. when my oldest was a Ulittle, I didn't know about many of those restrictions until the car ride home. once you know they are being given restrictions, you can recognize them. of course headers are obvious and really fun to watch when they are learning. good teams are taught to keep the ball on the ground. this is probably the only time they are allowed to "have at it". the ball flies wildly with every attempt. if you are on the losing team, don't take the cheering or laughing as a negative towards your team. it has nothing to do with your team or their skill level. it has to do with the other team learning or improving their skills in a game situation. I always say "nice job" to an opposing player on a nice play. I go out of my way to do it when our team is clearly dominate. blow outs happen and more often in tournaments. our kids have to be taught how to win and lose gracefully. blaming the REF, ground, or whatever is just poor sportsmanship. I've seen both winning and losing coaches do it.I took my U10 niece to a tournament last spring because they had a 3 kid/ 3 different tournaments conflict. on sunday her team lost 8-0. walking to the car she told me how unfair it was. I asked her "didn't you guys win a game 7-0 yesterday?" her answer was "well yeah". "didn't feel good did it??" "Nope" "why was it okay yesterday but not today" opened her eyes to a different view than her coach had shown her. win some, lose some, it's just a game and not life or death.
OUCH...Is someone upset because they are personalizing the aforementioned comment? Are you one of such coaches, or a parent that accepts such mentality from a coach? Any how, thank you for the lesson, I did not know that blogging had to follow the thread of conversation from prior posts.
Can't follow threads anymore because nothing is live. Come on moderator open the blog .
I dont think a blowout should be more than 6-0. After 6, nothing is being learned. The talent on the losing team will never be challenging for the better team. If I was coaching I would take 2 girls off players off the field and make it 9v11. Only allow play with weaker foot and if there is a full time goalie have them play in the field. Also for every 2 forward passes one must be played back. This is a good time at an early age for players to learn spacing. A 10-0 win is only good for the winning coach and gives winning girls a false sense of security.
TOTALLY AGREE 10:04. Yes, only good for the winning coach's ego...Especially if the winning coach/players can only win against weaker teams.
so 10.04...do you tell the kids that never score goals not to shoot?
I think it is even more embarrassing to play keep away for 30 minutes. That is making a fool out of the other team. More opportunities for tackles and take sways when playing at medium pressure to score.
This is for7:45 pmIf you have players on your team that never score is probably because the coach has them on defense and doesn't want to be score upon and/or is not developing the whole team to be be well rounded players. If coach was developing the entire team you should have the fullbacks scoring or at least getting assists.Anyone from midfield should be able to score and forwards speaks for itself. The only 2 players that really dont too many opportunities are the central defenders. So no I wouldn't see this as a special time to to have the kids that don't score to run up the numbers. Development starts with training not at the hands of lesser opponents
In total agreement with your comment 8:53am; particularly the last sentence. That is so true and a very fundamental principle that some coaches forget. But then again, several coaches (particularly town coaches with no competitive soccer background) do not have the knowledge-base to teach/mentor players on the fundamentals of the game/body positioning, etc. And instead, only rely solely on their players to push/shove and kick aimlessly in order to win. These are the type of coaches that celebrate feverishly the wins with weaker opponents and believe that winning 10-0 is a celebratory win. Get real!!!
Any thoughts on the best teams in the JAGS premier division? Seems pretty even to me with the exception of 1.
8v8 division or 11v11 division?
IF premiere 11v11; then based on last season's results, there may be 2 teams that may not have been tiered correctly. But, it seems that perhaps there may not have been too many teams in order to get better tiers. Don't know how it is going to play out this year as some of stronger teams either moved up or went to play for another more competitive league.In terms of teams in the 8v8, do not know much. Good luck to all teams in JAGS. Hope it will be a good season.
Which team is the 1 exception
1. Hamilton2. SJEB3. Jackson4. NJX5. Cherry Hill6. Freehold2-5 all interchangeable let's see how the season goes.
Freehold played Jackson this Sat and lost 2-1. Based on accounts of the game they outplayed them, but lost
1. Hamilton2. NJX3. SJEB4. Cherry Hill5. Jackson6. FreeholdLet's see how it goes!
State cup brackets are out. Good luck to everyone playing!
Is NJX Sol a completely new team, or did they pick up an existing team and rebrand them?
Is JAGS ever going to update the scores for this season? Anyone care to post results?
NJX Sol was Middletown Extreme Red. Same team moved together.
I know that SJEB tied Hamilton 2-2 and lost to NJX 3-2.
NJX Sol I was told is just the same very good Middletown Extreme Red team with 2 or 3 new Middletown girls they added to getup tons full sided roster.
From what I was told NJX Sol is just the same very good Middletown extreme team that added 2 or 3 more Middletown girls to get to a fullsided roster.
Some scores from last 2 weeks Jackson 2 freehold 1NJX sol 4 Hamilton 1NJX sol 4 cherry hill 1NJX sol 3 SJEB 2
Very true 3:20
NJX Sol was Middletown Extreme Red.
Okay thanks for telling us about your team and sharing their scores, I'm glad someone told you!
How does it work with nix, homdel and mf, are they one combined organization? So it looks like Middletown goes to njx and then they still have mf teams at same age group, but I assume much weaker at this age group. They usually take teams in at older age and merge into the dominant team, but looks like they may have a head start now with taking Middletown early. The goal should be to become the premiere mf team and go ecnl later on, how does this get decided with so many teams and clubs. Looks very confusing to me and could get ugly as they move up and team and club politics take over.
Sounds like NJX Sol is doing well. Much better than the old Middletown Red. Did they add that much talent or are the teams they beat (Hamilton, SJEB and Cherry Hill) having a hard time converting to 11 vs 11?
Neither. NJX added 3 girls, 2 from other Middletown teams and 1 from Jackson. The games have all been hard fought and well played by both teams (including game vs Freehold last night). On a different topic, it's a shame we lost some good teams in JAGs from last year. SDFC, PDA, etc. Also Shane they aren't in the State Cup.
SJEB is the team to beat. Not sure how they translate to 11v11 but like the way they play 8v8. Great skills, seems like a great program at the younger ages. Would send my daughter if it wasn't so far away.
Based on the brackets...predictions on Semi-finals, finals and winner of State Cup this year??
SDFC lost a few good players, including one of the best goalies around and I believe playing 8v8. Jackson and SJEB have also lost dominant players from their rosters, and would assume are weaker than last year. Maximus from Northern Jersey was put down and should not have, and chose not to play. I think what's left is completly different from last year. Not sure why PDA chose to move up, unless they have inside scoop that this division is weaker than last year. Would think they would play State, they don't seem to play anything else. Looks like their south team is much stronger and heard they have at least two of the best from SJEB. Maybe they are the PDA team to beat now and they show up and play.
Wow...A little sensitive 12:19...The question was asked related to posting of the JAGS scores. Relax! Are you sour with having your daughter play for possibly a weaker team? BTW...In every club, town or private, there are always politics involved. Lets be real.Just to clarify something, and my daughter has NEVER played for Middletown, the Middletown Red team team has always been a very strong team who has been extremely well coached over the years. Why would 12:21 have to question ALL the team's talents, just because they conceded to losing against NJX??? From my point of view, NJX is getting better as the years progress; in comparison with other premiere teams that are getting weaker as the girls are getting older. This is a direct correlation with the coaching staff not being able to teach girls more then what they know themselves. Totally agree with 2:04. Great job NJX!!! Looking forward to following all teams in the JAGS league. Please keep posting scores.
12:19 HERE: Im not sensitive at all and just thought it was funny how you were trying to disguise yourself. I appreciate the scores and the In-depth feedback/makeup of the team you don't play for, but know so much about. This is what the blog is about, getting information about other teams, scores and opions. Oh, and by the way, my daughter does not play at your level anymore, but not jelious. The team she does play for has never lost to your team and played them several times, so I'm content where she is currently.Thanks for your concern.
Looks to me like we have a new poster from NJX SOL, welcome my freind. Reading though the lines, may be one of the new players parent, being that they never played with Middletown, but has so many positive things to say about them. It's also failrly obvious they asking and answering their own questions. Good stuff, lights up the board and makes other teams want to compete against them more.
At the end of the season, you will see who was able to continue to develop and who hasn't. Then there will be another team shuffle. Mostly driven by parents who think their kid is going to get a full ride to North Carolina!! In 3 years is when the real competition begins folks. None of these teams will still be the same!! It is all about individual skill building at this age.
I'm curious to know what happened in Middletown. At U9 and I think U10 as well, they had three teams: Red, Black and White, and having played two of them and talked to the coaches, I got the impression they were not strictly A, B, C teams, which of course naturally made me wonder how that would work with all the internal competition for players. Now at U11, I see Middletown Red has left the Club for NJX. It looks like Middletown Black left the Club for Peninsula (same coach and team name). And Middletown White? Did they stay behind as "Middletown United Red", but under a new coach? Just curious - always hard to keep up with all the rebranding every time a coach leaves and a team feels they have to change their name.
Please someone post the state cup scores for games to be played this weekend.
What team has played with Middletown red for years and never conceded to a loss???
Would appreciate any State Cup scores over the weekend. Thanks and good luck.
I believe PDA has never lost to them, not 100 percent so don't blast me if I'm wrong.
My daughter plays with NJX Sol. I wasn't even aware there was a youth soccer blog until it was pointed out to me last week. I guess it's a sign the apocalypse may be soon upon us...lol. Our coaches have specifically asked that we not participate in any back and forth on it because they don't really think it does much good. I agree. So I don't think there will be any issues with our group, it's a nice group of people.These are young kids and they are the ones playing the game, not us adults. More often than not it is us the parents that make it about ourselves more than the kids. It's the kids' game. But I would like to say that we have had some terrific games over the years with teams like Jackson, Hamilton, Cherry Hill, PDA, SJEB, SDFC and others. This season has been no different, hard fought games, any of them can go either way on a good or bad day. I've found the parents and fans of the games to be generally respectful and supportive. Hopefully we can all keep it that way. There is some great talent out there and hopefully the girls have a lot of fun and develop. Enjoy it now folks, it goes fast, before you know it all those soccer, baseball, hockey, basketball, football games will be over and we'll all just have the memories. Let the kids be kids and have fun and learn. We all know when the games are over the kids are the ones more concerned about ice cream or getting the instagram address of one of the girls in the other jersey they made friends with while we were stewing over a call the ref made. They now more than we do, it's just a game.
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State Cup Resultshttp://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=34319&Gender=Girls&Age=11
Looks like Jackson vs Hamilton; SJEB vs Cherry Hill and NJX vs. Maximus are the match ups to watch next week. Whoever wins Jackson vs. Hamilton should move all the way through. Top 1/2 lighter than bottom half. Whoever wins the bottom 2 games will have to play eachother.
Totally agree with 9:27.Thank you 1:55 for posting the standings. I don't understand the comment about top 1/2 being lighter than bottom half. Why would that be? How is that fair for the bottom half teams that have to compete in more games to get to the top? How does that happen and why?
means the toughest competition will play each other early and get knocked out. one side of the bracket has lower level teams and one high level team who has a cake walk to the finals. that happened to my U16 daughter one year. luck of the draw.
Let me preface my future comment by saying that PDA Galaxy is a tremendously talented and well coached team. With that said, it amazes me the "fear" that this academy has of losing in it's own age bracket. Built in excuse for losing when you play up. Would have loved to see how they would have faired in U11 as well as the State Cup.
They are not making excuses, they have not lost playing up and probabaly wont, they have already played the top 2 teams. Team added/dropped a few players and are getting even stronger. They also have adopted very well to large sided play. This team is the real deal, just in need of a golie. I know this sounds arrogant, but I can't see any age appropiate team competing with them currently. They played the new PDA south team, who is top 5 in state and solid team, it was a complete blowout.
Like I said. Outstanding team of players, trainers and coaches. Why not at least play in the State Cup? 5 additional games? Run through it and become State Champs. Why? because the small chance that they lose a game is too risky for the academy's reputation. I also beleive that while they are good. They can be beat.
How could a new team be top 5 in the state already and we are not even halfway through the fall. Sometimes its best not to post. Last yrs magic team was far from top 5.
Hamilton lost a tough one on a ridiculously small field vs Jackson.
You should ask your coach to scrimmage galaxy, I'm sure the coach won't try and duck it and should be a great game.Let' us know if it happens, would be fun to watch, and agree that any team is beatable. Good luck!
5:20pm, The size of a field is not the reason you lost. I would give you a break down of why, but you already know.
The comment directed towards the Jackson/Hamilton game was certainly not posted by a Hamilton parent. Jackson deserved to win the game and there are people on this blog who just try to stir up trouble and create animosity between teams that have strong relationships. Grow up....
Agreed JAGS competition not the strongest in any age group. PDA would find competition in their own age group club leagues, where they belong.
I agree with you about specific bloggers with ill intent. No need to stir up problems between teams. Lets keep it to the soccer. Any scores from the weekend?
EDP 8v8 RAGE FC Renegades 6, SJEB 4.
A lot has happened to the top teams in this age group. Last year Jackson fell off a bit and this year it looks like SJEB, Hamilton and Cherry Hill have all taken a step back. All still very solid teams, but just not as dominating, as they looked to be a year ago. Have the dynamics changed on these teams? It looks to me like all of the above teams, plus Maximus, PDA South, PDA Crew and Rage are all about equal, anyone team can win, on any given day. World Class and SDFC must have lost their core and forced to play 8v8 only, to bad. The new NJX Sol looks to be on top, and PDA Galaxy maybe, but they are a ghost team that plays very little soccer, so who knows?
As I sit and read these comments, I can't help but feel saddened for the children of some of you parents. Do they get yelled at every time they get in the car after a game? Are they allowed dessert if they don't win? Obviously we all hope for victory for our children , but some of you are living through them dreaming of the victory you never got as a child. It's not fair to put that kind of pressure on a child. They are just trying to play the game they love. Stop worrying about the team that may beat them and enjoy watching them play! Ridiculous how youth soccer can consume the lives of grown adults!
What are you using to make the declining assessments on Hamilton, Jackson and Cherry Hill? I agree that NJX is a good team. Not sure about the decline of the others.
NJX for one, they have always been middle of the pack and now they dominate their division. I know these teams have lost some momentum, their records and play show this. SJEB was an awesome team, look at their website and winnings, they were very proud. They are not the same team because of losing some critical players. Still a good team, just not a great team. Same with Jackson, they were better two years ago and have not improved enough to keep up. I think they had one loss two yeras ago. Hamilton and cherry hill are average higher end teams, thought they would have been stronger this year. Just my two cents.
Jackson just beat Hamilton 2-0 in State Cup play, then the next day tied NJX 3-3. Cherry Hill beat Jackson 1-0 in the Jackson Summer Classic. SJEB beat up on Cherry Hill in State Cup. This is a very tight division. As it should be. Makes it very interesting.
Jackson is a kick and run team no doubt! They love their home games for that reason on the smaller field... Would not get away with that method on a regular full sided field.. People have caught on!! Just an FYI!!
Stop hating on Jackson. They are a good team with some very good athletes. They have some real strong defenders and at least one talented striker. They have lost players to academies and still field a good team. They do well despite their coach. The parents are always fair and congratulatory as well. And no, my daughter doesn't play for them. Try will also likely be in the finals or State Cup, and likely face a team they either tied or beat.
Any comments on this weekend's 11v11 state cup games? That PDA South/SJEB game is going to be a very interesting/emotional game as SJEB lost players to PDA south over the summer.
Dont understand the "despite their coach" comment. To me if the team has been competitive and continues to develop and compete at a high level, the coach has something to do with that. Absolutely not all of it.... but something. Give the guy some credit.
PDA south 2 SJEB 0 overtime
NJX 2-0 over TFS..
SJEB not the same team as last year.Very Obvious not a dominating team any longer.
"Would not get away with that method on a regular full sided field"I guess they won on that small field again? That's the only way they can win right? idiot!
Jackson 4 Washington 0. On a big field too. Go figure.
I haven't been involved in any Jackson bashing as I think they are a good team, but are you really beating your chest for beating Washington Twp? Wow. I'm afraid to read the blog after you beat Haddonfield, Coach.
i am 12:00amI am not a Jackson coach and don't have a child on the team. I could care less who they win or lose to. I am just tired of people who need to find reasons why a team wins or loses. blame the field, the REFs, the weather, whatever. it's all about excuses! that is what is WRONG with our society.
If you don't know about Jackson and their methods of play, you really shouldn't comment to people that have experienced it first hand. It's facts!
Wow 12:13. You really have a vested interest in berating the play of a bunch of 10/11 year old girls from Jackson and their coach. Who cares if they are a kick and run team, their home field is smaller than others or you don't like their coach. My advice...psychotherapy. Thank goodness the girls don't read this blog.
Picking PDA over NJX.
PDA over NJX? Have you ever seen both teams play? What do you base this "bet" on? I have seen all the teams listed on this blog compete and I believe you will be incorrect on this one?
This was a ranking in September. I wonder if they have changed their ranking?1. Hamilton2. SJEB3. Jackson4. NJX5. Cherry Hill6. Freehold2-5 all interchangeable let's see how the season goes.
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I think PDA has a very good chance, they are a new team that gets better every week. NJX is the same above average team. Winning because other teams falling back do roster and team changes.
NJX has proven it's strength over the teams listed above.
Why argue? The game will be played and then you'll have your answer. I predict PDA over Jackson in the final game, 3-2.
Anyone else notice that Jackson Gunners are in the 2nd flight of the Kirkwood Tournament with the Jackson Red Devils in the top?
Does anyone have an opinion about the ODP link posted earlier today? I'd appreciate any thoughts or experiences people have had, which will probably be from those with older kids.Thank You
There is no doubt that NJX is a talented team. They will prove they can close against good teams if they can close against PDA and then Jackson (if they get past Haddonfield). Looks like from a comment above that they tied Jackson. Should be an exciting weekend as long as the competitive parents don't ruin it like they have done this blog.
Does Matchfit have a strong U11 team?
The only u11 Matchfit team I have seen is getting blown away in EDP.
MF have an U11 team who has lost every game this season by quite a lot of goals.
Thanks for the information. Seems like galaxy is the way to go. We have a u10 who will be trying out somewhere in the spring.
Guess it depends what you are looking for. You said u10. galaxy is U11. You mentioned Match Fit. Considering Match Fit is affiliated with NJX now, and NJX is a much better team from the looks of it, I would be shocked if NJX team doesn't either become Match Fit or at least poach girls from NJX to Match Fit. They (PDA and Match Fit) are the only 2 ECNL teams if that's what you are looking for.
Not sure what we are looking for. A bit new to the game. People say our girl has talent so we should look at PDA or match fit. Do these teams usually have a big change in players at this age?
Well, PDA is great. Would be hard to make Galaxy. Great team and program. They also have Crew at u11 and PDA Nova which is south. Depends where you live. MatchFit isn't strong at early ages but is top club for older ages. NJX is affiliated with Match Fit, so NJX likely going to be path to Match Fit. Plenty of other strong programs too. Depends where you live. And is she actually u10 or u11? Playing an age up not always best approach. Depends on how good she is. Where does she play now?
If she is good, NJX will take her, as they have some pretty big holes in their defense.
Why do I keep hearing such negative things about PDA? From the outside they seem like they have a great program.
Everything for the most part is negative on these blogs. There are some people who give useful advice, but sadly there are lots of negative and jealous people behaving pathetically. PDA is a great program. If you look at very successful players, the vast majority played for PDA. Doesn't mean they started there, but finished there. I'm not sure if it's worth it if you don't play in their top teams though. No, I have no children who have played for them.
PDA Nova over NJX. PDA is not the most talented team, but they are scrappy and know where to be on the pitch. NJX struggled against TSF. Talented team too, but something is missing there.
PDA South 2 - Hamilton 2
No downside to ODP. Important to note at the national level they are on a calendar year not the club year. So it will be for a mix of U10/U11 players.
No update from the weekend, I guess state cup and league was cancelled because of holiday?
PDA Nova wins EDP, getting stronger every week. PDA Galaxy wins parsippany against PDA Crew in finals. nice showing for PDA. Good luck next week in State Cup.
That MF team is U10 playing up. They miscalculated and should have played JAGS.
Re: MF team. Don't follow. Also, re: PDA Nova. Sounds like they are the powerhouse is NJ now. They are unbeatable. NJX and Jackson should concede now and avoid embarrassment I guess. Knowing those two teams, I don't suspect they roll over.
Gotsoccer have announced they have begun ranking U11 and U10 teams.
That's a shame. Now teams will be chasing points instead of seeking out good competition. The rankings will be highly flawed as only their tournaments will be used in the criteria. Can't these poor kids be allowed to grow up a little before subjecting them to this? What next, ranking different rec teams at 6 years old? The Bumblebees from Osh Kosh run an impressive beehive offense! They way they pack together and swarm the opponent is quite impressive. Well done Got Soccer!
Omg ranking U10 and U11 ridiculous. These teams will change twice over by high school. Besides What are they going to rank anyway? PDA South is playing other competitive clubs in EDP, and seems to be very strong so I guess they can be ranked bus a bus other clubs.But PDA north playing town teams so hard to tell. Why aren't they all playing in leagues and tournaments where the clubs play? Seems pointless to enter local tournaments where you will win by 7 or more goals.
Ranking these teams is stupid. Some are playing 8v8, some are playing 11v11 and some are playing both. Perhaps if this had been announced in advance, people would have focused on this - but now seasons are set/tournaments are set, And hopefully the coaches have made sensible choices based upon the size of their roster, (Many of the tourneys with higher points are 8v8), what makes economic sense, what is local and what works for their families and develops their teams. U-11 is supposed to be transitional year.... and ranking u-10 teams? even more ridiculous... these are 9 year old kids for the most part!!!
It's all about the Benjamins
Looks like PDA is playing u11 in MAPS challenge. NJX will get the chance to prove they are the top dog. I saw PDA in u12, looks like moved back down. This should be a nice tournament. How si they look against cherry hill? Hoping for feedback from cherry hill, not PDA.
Would love to see a MAPs Challenge Bracket of:PDA GalaxyJacksonCherry Hill NJX SJEBWould be a great weekend of soccer
Very good article. http://www.socceramerica.com/article/54328/gotsoccer-insanity-ranking-9-year-olds-really.html
FC Maximus should be included as well. They are in top 10 or better of state. PDA should walk away easily, but it is soccer and anything can happen.
I disagree that it is all the parents' fault here. I see a movement of more profit-oriented groups (e.g. MSSL) trying to capture the market (and $$$) of youth tournaments away from the traditional town-run yearly tournaments. Look at the proliferation of summer select tournaments at Fort Dix over the past several years, and now the explosion of in-season tournaments (MAPS Fall Challenge, EDP Cup, etc., etc.). So those big tournaments pay more to GotSoccer, who gives their tournaments more points, thus enticing more teams to attend their tournaments, lining their pockets. This will inevitably kill off the town-run tournaments, which are often the biggest fund raiser for each town club, thus further killing the town teams that are already losing their best talent to the proliferation of private academies. I wouldn't be surprised over the next decade to see privately-held training organizations and for-profit tournament promoters control the entire competitive travel soccer market, leaving towns with just recreational programs.
U-10 team rankings already removed. Wish they would do the same for U-11 rankings...
FC Maximus, SDFC, maybe some others as well. They should form a division if those teams instead of having these teams split up in different leagues. Nova and Crew also.
2 59 what ?
Good luck Today is state cup
I believe NJX U11 lost their first game of the season today. I saw the first half and they were crushed by maybe the best young soccer team I have ever seen.(my oldest daughter is at TCNJ - so about 16 years)Their goals were upper left & upper right back-of-the-net rockets. Their passing was amazing and their speed made NJX look SLOW! I asked which PDA team it was the U11 A or B team and they said neither - it was U10 Lions. I was dumfounded because they were also pretty big.When I left to the big field for the U12 game is was PDA 4 NJX 0. (Before you get critical with me - I am an NJX U12 parent and had some interest in our newest team and all their hype and attention early this year. They may be a good team but that younger PDA squad was ridiculous!)
Boycott Got Soccer. The rankings are without merit, and they should not even be ranking U12 and U13. Ranking 4th graders is absurd, and against everything youth soccer should stand for.
Where is SDFC Rage playing this fall so far? The have played state cup games and it looks like they are in EDP 8v8, but no league games played so far?
Impressive win against njx and sad for them. Has to take the wind out of their sails. Sure sounds like you are a PDA parent trying hard to say your not. i would want to brag about that win too. Have you played galaxy yet? Are you better then them? That's right, your not from PDA.
Wow,that is called a beating. Im sure the njx guy would have been on blog if they had played the older PDA team and won. Any response to this game? Was it all one sided and they only had 4 chances and all 4 went in? What was final score?
I'm picking PDA S NOVA over NJX in the state cup.
PDA Nova all the way.
NJX all the way! They have beaten them before and even beat the A team! I have know this team for a few years and they like the space on the field don't do well in 8v8... We will see.. I am sure the blog will be blowing up about the 10 year old game by Sat. Afternoon!!
What's even more funny is that the parents take a lose to heart and the kids don't care! Again goes back to a terrible childhood!
When did NJX beat PDA A team?
Never. They now have 4 PDA teams that they will have to compete with going forward. NOVA, LYONS, GALAXY and CREW.
NJX has never played a PDA team until the 4-3 8v8 game this weekend. What's missed is that NJX is now an 11v11 team that schedules a few 8v8 games to use as chance for other girls to play out of position, etc. it's not the same lineup or taken very seriously. An exhibition, a controlled practIce if you will, very common in many sports . The old Middletown team did however beat PDA galaxy and crew several times in the past. While also losing a couple times to Galaxy in close games.PDA Lyon is a very nice team though, one with I am sure a bright future. But that's to be expected, it is PDA, they are tough to compete with at any age.
Middletown never beat Galaxy.
Middletown is NJX, same team with a few additions. Every team adds and loses a few every year, so you have a new name, period. As for the excuses for losing to a younger team, you sound like a poor sport. You lost in jags division play at 8v8, which is the best place to be for any u11 team.
No excuses needed! That's how NJX rolls! Great bunch of girls with a lot of heart! 8v8 means nothing to them... End of story.. Yes, PDA won! Great bunch of very talented girls.. Good luck with your season..
Jags shows 4 2 loss. I agree, 8v8 is more important. 11 v 11 is the one that shouldn't matter as much, unless you guys are a kick and run team.
No poor sport, just giving you the reality of it for this particular team. There is a huge difference when you don't have your regular full roster and play girls completely out of normal position. You experiment, sometimes you find good things, sometimes not. Good for PDA Lyon though they have an excellent team.
And Middletown did beat Galaxy or whatever the PDA A team was at the time up until fall of u10. They have also lost a couple, most recently a 4-3 game in the spring in JAGS. I'm sure Galaxy is a he'll of a team and improving.
Okay, when did hey beat the PDA team that you don't know the name of when you beat them? You are the same person that thought yesterday's games was 4 - 3. You were not even part of the team the last two years. let it go, you are wrong.
NJX and PDA get to play in 5 days. Hopefully, you parents aren't berating your children like you are to each other on this blog.
i read a comment saying that 8v8 is more important than playing 11 v11 at u11. I think we are missing the point in thinking any of these game are important. If your child is gaining more confidence on the ball, are they able to dribble out of trouble, do they understand the importance of passing to their backs or goalie? Is the training they are getting engaging or are they staying the same week after week?None of the who is playing who matters to them. If they can carry the ball with the head up, that is what is going to help them when they are older not what u11 team they were on.
That was the point of 8v8 being more important, it's all about development and more touches on the ball.
You ridiculous people do realize that you are bad mouthing little girls right? I find you to be a joke, your children are clearly talented. Does it make them more talented when you degrade their competitors? I am staying neutral on my comment because it doesn't matter what team my daughter plays for. I am reading ALL comments, by ALL teams and I am disgusted. I'm embarrassed for you and feel truly sorry for your children. You are all so tough behind your anonymous names. Leave it alone and let the girls play!!! Do you honestly think what happens on a U11 8v8 or 11v11 matters when they are older?? Grow up people!! If you have something constructive to share on this blog feel free, if not go get yourself some counseling for your clearly lacking childhood.
Sorry for the multiple posts
So happy my daughter is not on NJX or PDA. Sounds like a bunch of crazy parents. Do you yell at them if they miss a trap or a shot?? No dinner on Saturday if you lose.
PDA parent here. While it seems that our club's reputation has preceded us (as with other clubs), I do think you need to look at each year instead of the club as a whole. We played a team at Parsippany a week or two ago. An opponent's goalie made a sick, wicked save for a 10 year old. It was amazing. We initially yelled "Good try" for our player and then yelled "Great job goalie!" to the opposing player. It's fun to see the players on both sides of the pitch. Why make this so competitive when it does not need to be at this age? If our PDA coaches cared about W-L we would be playing age appropriate this year instead of a year up in JAGS.
Well said... Some people have no lives! These are 10 year old girls....They are all so talented.... Good luck to all The girls... I have seen both teams play and it's going to be one hell of a game!
The above post are lame. Two clubs with a little compition - what the blog is all about. NJX talked a bit to much and came back to bite them is the a$$. As for the game this weekend, I don't see anyone from either team talking,, unless I'm missing something?
7:32 - the blog is about discussion. Sounds like your kid's team emphasizes competition and W-L over development. What team and club is this?
NJX vs PDA game is just the semis. Is the winner automatically crowned the champ? Is everyone writing off the other 2 teams, Hamilton and Haddonfield?
First off its Jackson vs Haddonfield. Secondly, I don't see anyone declaring anything. I don't see a single comment from NJX parents declaring they will win anything, and although there are predictions of PDA Nova going "all the way", I doubt it's from their parents. My daughters team hasn't played Nova yet, but we have played Middletown Red/NJX for years and their parents have always been friendly and congratulatory to our kids. Lot of pot stirrers on this blog. Grow up folks!
Thank you for pointing that out about NJX parents. I was thinking the same thing. We have also played NJX (as Middletown Extreme Red & NJX) many times and I too have never had anything but a great game to watch and positive comments from their parents. They lost one game and these crazy parents are actually happy. What are we teaching our children???? They are a competitive team, that plays clean and hard. I have yet to hear anyone say that they are unbeatable or perfect. GROW UP....they are kids!
I'd like to know from the NJX/ex-Middletown parents their feelings of their screaming coach now that they have moved on.
Jackson had an easy ride in State cup, they should be in the finals..
Jackson should be in the final, they had no competition..
Why do people get upset and argue on these blogs? Aren't you intelligent enough to figure out that people purposely post outrageous things to get a reaction out of you and you provide it every time. Hook, line & sinker...
Actually I'd like to know about the yelling coach too. Was the yelling worth it? Did it help your daughter become a better soccer player?
who did NJX lose to?
PDA u10 in 8v8..
I watched the PDA Lyon u 10 NJX u 11 game. PDA won 4-2. They were more skilled, quicker, and more talented. Please don't use the excuse about players playing out of position or not taking the game seriously. PDA won almost every 50/50 ball. They played stronger in tight spaces. They were more under control. The reactions from the NJX parents were priceless. I have never enjoyed a soccer game so much.
You PDA parents are a joke and an embarrassment to the club and your children. Do you hear yourselves? You've never enjoyed a game more? Really? Pathetic display of parenting and character!
Personally rooting for the Jackson or Haddonfield teams to win this weekend. Would be nice to see a town/non-academy team win. Don't have too pay a small fortune to play good soccer and have fun.
The reason NJX is getting so much exposure is because you have half the post. Starting a few weeks ago with talk about how solid of a team you are and PDA is hiding and you wanted to play them.Then the u10 team comes along and beats them easily.Sorry, but in the blog world you will get hammered when you talk a big game and then lose a huge game. Stop the excuses and trying to post as non nix parents, you are way to obvious. The more you talk, the more you expose yourself.
I myself am also pulling for Haddonfield or Jackson. Let a town team win it. Maybe NJX has new parents but I don't really see anywhere on the blog where they were touting the team? I'm actually surprised the PDA club allows their parents to post such trash, seems to bring down the reputation of what is supposed to be the benchmark?
I saw some of that NJX PDA game there with my son on Holmdel FC (the regular club portion). Was actually tale of two games, PDA played very well and scored some nice goals in first, had much the better of play and NJX dominated the second half. The best player was the PDA goalie in second half, that kid played awesome. NJX could have had six or eight goals and lived in their box the whole second half but that young lady was fantastic.
U11 Crew played 8v8 in Flemington as well as U10 Lyon. Why wasn't NJX scheduled to play Crew? The first Crew game was at 9am. Maybe NJX couldn't make it that early?
Funny my daughter plays for a town team, and I always wondered why people hate PDA. I figured maybe some jealousy. It's becoming clear their parents are as insane as it claims. Well, at least a few anyway. I'm beginning to think PDA stands for Parents with Diminished Adolescence. Stop living vicariously through your kids because you couldn't hack it as a child. And yes, "your" team is the best. You parents should wear uniforms to the game since you are so integral to the success. Go Jackson/Haddonfield!!!
I will never support PDA, but NJX is worse and you people need to stop. Going back, you did start the talking and deserve what you are getting.
I saw the PDA lyon TRam play one of our Morris United teams u11. They were a good team. Problem I have with PDA is it is a black box, you never know what team you get. They do the old u10 or u11 playing up thing and then I was surprised to watch that game and see several stud Galaxy U11 players playing on Lyon. That's what happens when they cross-card teams and players and carry 20+ girls on rosters. I saw them do it in a tournament and spring cup game too. It's one thing to play up and do well, another to play up with some girls and bring a bunch of age appropriate ringers to the games as well. Buts that why the rep is so bad and you just never know with these teams. I know with Morris and I would guess most other programs the 14 or 16 or 18 girls that are on the team and practice, are the ones that go to the games, no exceptions at least from what I have seen. So it doesn't surprise me that u10 can play with a good u11 when they bring who they want from the older group based on what they think the competition will be.
The above can't be true in league play in jags and most others. I understand you don't like PDA, nor do I, but that is a bunch of lies. Even if it was true, what is the big deal?
I love the people who just can't get over the fact that PDA is a great club with national exposure. Why the jealousy. If you're happy where you are then don't worry about PDAs success. Trust me they aren't thinking about you.
PDA is awesome! They are the greatest organization in the history of youth soccer. No team compares to their greatness. Nor does any athlete.The thousands of dollars that I spend on my 10 year olds soccer practices is not at all unusual. Every player in the country wishes they could play with this wonderful organization and their tremendously courtEous and sportsmanlike parents......happy now??? Can we move on????
Thank you. Much better.
the fact that PDA does that stuff with girls on different teams and different ages is within the rules, but it is just a little misleading and explains things such as Lyon, etc. they shouldn't do that, I feel bad for the girls on lyon who get bumped from playing time. my kids at Copa don't deal with that even though academy level.
I'm sorry girls got bumped. You must be a frustrated Lyon parent. Or just don't know what you are talking about. Nice try. Worry about your c level copa team
Any chance of a, dare I say intelligent, conversation without name calling and insults? Any thoughts on which tournaments are best in November? Over the winter? What tournaments are best for early and late spring. Would be nice to actually learn something from this blog aside from people take this too seriously.
C level? Really? You are a crazy person
I dont know what everyone is arguing for?? Got Soccer will rank these 10 year olds the right way .LOL. Let them do all the math.Pretty soon they will have a National 2 team in MOSA ranked #1 for winning a Frightfest Tournament for best costume.
Funny thing is that the Pda higher ups could care less about winnings and rankings until the ecnl years.
Thanks for telling us how great Jackson is and accusing other clubs of things tnet never did. Look in the mirror and tell me who has the real issues?
If PDA cared about wins, their U11s would be playing in the U11 JAGS group instead of U12.
Only the u11s bring the ringer u12s for the rough games. That's very admirable. Leave those u11s stuck to the bench! But they are playing up, riiiiiight....Glad Sjeb doesn't do this. No wonder about PDA 10u lions.
Can you repeat yourself in English, have no clue what you are trying to say. Read the post three times thinking I was missing something.
Players are carded by birth year. Refs check rosters and player cards. I've seen refs look at the card and then player. They are probably looking at the picture on the card. I'm not sure how a U12 play down to U11 for any club unless they are playing up in age in the first place and are both rosters. ?? Rosters are listed on GotSoccer. Anyone who cares about PDA's rosters should probably spend the time to go look at them.
This blog is hysterical. PDA is one of the biggest clubs in the country, yet it only plays town tournaments (EB, bridge water, Parsippany), and town leagues (JAGS), and hides from all the club competition in EDP and the NYC NPL leagues and tournaments. And then PDA parents & coaches brag about winning MOSA Flight 2 games and pound their chest proclaiming greatness. ROFL. Yeah, OK. And then to boot, there are accusations of cheating at these games. I feel very sorry for the kids on these teams, when the coaches have no confidence that their teams can win. Oh but wait - PDA doesn't care about winning - only development. Lol!
What PDA is in MOSA?
I looked at GotSoccer. Can anyone explain why #7 Holmdel FC NJX Sol at 2114 points and #30 NJX Sol at 156 points have the EXACT same rosters? http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Girls&Age=11&Region=1&State=NJ
Because its a mistake you dope
ha ha ha same rosters but two different clubs #7 is Holmdel FC and #30 is Middletown FC. It's not a mistake.
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