The DA will be in Bergen by the Fall of 2018. Done deal.
sure, and crush will do well at Jeff cup. MF and CSA will happen in 17.
wasnt there a DA meeting this past week where they were discussing new members and playing in high school? any updates anyone may know?
The DA for the girls will be about $2500 for tuition plus travel. It will be about $5500 all in. DA will train 4 days per week. The USSF offers scholarships ($1600) for families with a financial need. ECNL is averaging close to $5500 per year for tuition plus travel but have only 2 trainings per week and there is not fall.NYCFC, the Red Bull's, and all of the other MLS Development Academies add completely free for the boys (tuition amd travel). PDA and CSA Monmouth are free tuition for the two older groups U17 and U19 but you still pay around $3500 to travel. The girls DA will not be free initially but will still be a better value and a much higher caliber then ECNL.
DA - no track they will get you to college. Why take the risk.
For the person who keeps saying CSA Bergen DA done deal...show proof??
Proof? This board should be all about trust!
In Altirs We Trust. Legend.
I have heard the same thing from the CRUSH ownership. That's why we are staying around.
Trust? More like BS
OK, let's look at what you're saying here. In one sentence you say that US Soccer was trying to get Red Bulls and LA Galaxy to take a GDA team. Obviously, they want the support of NWSL and MLS teams to promote their cause. Then NYCFC comes in and takes WC's spot at the table. Great, another MLS team! Now you are saying that US Soccer thinks that it is a good idea, before they even start their first season, to take another club in the same region as NYCFC? That makes no sense at all, sorry. Can I see them putting another DA is Passaic or Morris? Sure, why not. But putting another DA that is already got an MLS club already? Nah, I call BS on this one.
Time will tell.
Players at CSA Crush Bergen North Orange Green blender mix club will be pawns and chips in CSA owners' plan to take over the soccer planet, perhaps to buy or own an MLS team like the two Div 2 pro teams he now owns. So if you think you'll have any stability in that environment as a normal person, good luck. And Academy kids cant play high school ball. Sounds like a great situation.
Crush needs to focus on their own kids, that's why everyone leaves.
Hmm. Southern cali is thriving with 14 DA clubs (jump from ECNL) within 50 mile radius. Hopefully more clubs around Nj - especially in south jersey and east ny will jump on board if we want to keep regional parity. Kids shouldn't have to drive 30+ miles to practice to get quality training and competition.
The LA Galaxy has TWO girls DA, one in Carson and one in Carlsbad down by San Diego. LAFC the new MLS club has a girls DA from a partnership with Slammers FC (Costa Mesa). There are 4 in a very close proximity (Pateadores in Costa Mesa and Beach FC in Torrance) with a fraction of the density and population of NYC and North Jersey. NYC has the top four most densely populated counties in the US, Hudson County, NJ is nimber 6. NYCFC first team trains at SUNY Purchase (moving to its new facility in Orangebug in the fall 2018 ) and the boys DA trains at St. John's University in Queens with no expectation of changing. The fact that the girls DA will train out of WCFCs facility is irrelevant to the fact that the USSF wants more girls DAs, especially in the NYC area.You have to take a step back and have some perspective. The USSF started the girls DA as a direct response to the failings they identified in girls development and particularly the ECNL. The key issues were an average of 2 days a week training in a shortened season, lower quality coaches, high fees, and exclusionary/anti competitive behavior. The purpose of the DA is to provide better development at a lower cost and provide opportunities to players who can't afford ECNL or the like. The ECNL lobby was very powerful and objected to no avail.
But the DA will cost $$
The da is just a power trip and money grab, just like ecnl. They can't just give it to anyone and water it down.
mr 2:01, or should we say mr Cedar Stars admin or lobbyist...you seem to know ever nuance and wrinkle under the sun, probably copy and paste of your pitch to US Soccer for status. How about we send you a hat or a TShirt that says Masters of the Universe and lets get back to an enjoyable thing.
This is tne CRUSH guy, hoping for CSA to save them. Bergen girls...
Is PSA taking over Stallions teams and coaches? Age group change and DA debacle are just a background noise compared to natural coaching changes in NJ. Go small!PS. also happening to agree with 2:01 - that ECNL was an underperforming product, based on individual successes of, ahem, PSA and Stallions teams (at least on paper!!!). Where do I get a hat?
PSA =Princeton. Someone is referring to a couple coaches leaving Stallions to go there, a new satelite location in Bergen (Fort Lee) this fall.
Iga, PSA, sta, crush, stallions, Bergen Bulldogs, Maximus, tsf, sdfc.Who says we don't have clubs?
Would be nice if stallions and PSA merged. I could see them getting an ecnl and da.
If stallions & PSA big ego coaches could live in harmony - top DA club in the area. We can only dream
that new club is going to be based out of Fort Lee. I was told its one or two ex-Stallion's coaches and few others starting up a new group in Fort Lee and Englewood NJ area. That's a pretty good call if they can find fields because not too many clubs service that area. Da? ECNL?Lets not get silly.
PSA announce PSA North out of Ft. Lee High School run by 2 former Stallions Coaches. http://www.princetonsoccer.org/Default.aspx?tabid=924390
For any parents who want to be educated about the Development Academy program and why it is the lowest cost and highest level training/competition (by far), here is a link to a January 2015 interview with Tony Lepore, formerly the Director of Scouting for the USSDA and current USSF Director of Talent Identification.https://www.socceramerica.com/article/62287/development-academy-making-progress-and-staying.htmlhttps://www.socceramerica.com/article/62288/improved-coaching-is-the-priority-tony-lepore.htmlFACTS:* Over 100 clubs in 7.5 years and it has become "THE SCOUTING PLATFORM FOR COLLEGE COACHES".* 90% of the Boys Youth National Team comes from DAs; players have a streamlined pathway to YNT scouting* The addition of more clubs at U13/14 (and U12) helps reduce travel* Increasing financial aid with the goal of ultimately elimination pay-for-play*Coaching quality and coach education is the biggest single focus of the DAs; Academy Clubs are hosting courses and their clubs have priorityBOTTOM LINE*The girls DA will be the only elite girls program in the US by January of 2018. If you build it they will come.*When the top players from each team join the academy system, the next tier will follow. This is deliberate by the USSF.*Any current national team or market center player will not be given an exception because they want to play high school or want to stay with their friends on their current team. You will be dropped from the pool because its the only way they can ensure that the best players will come.
Pretty scary stuff for most. This is for the overly obsessed parents and kids. Not sure my daughter wants to be a market center player, what ever that is?
10:53 is missing some huge points. Girls and boys are different. The ECNL did not exist for boys when the DA was formed. In addition, US club runs the ECNL they are going nowhere. DA is not a great fit for a lot of girls. Too many days a week, too much soccer over other sports. Too many kids whose goal is Club/HS/college and see no benefit of the DA. It's the same player pool, not like they are importing a few thousand foreigners. If your current college pool is 3k kids, so what if 800 go to the DA, they all still go to college. BTW, if people think an extra 3 hours a week with a magical DA trainer will make you kid the next great, that's silly. It's the same trainers. Finally, DA will be a wonderful option for many girls. Bottom line, there is room for both.
We will see what the market will bear. Will there be any downward pressure on cost and travel due to increased competition in the market for players?
IGA, PSA, ST, Crush, Stallions, Maximus, TSF, SDFC... = lots of guys with making lots of money off of girls soccer in NJ..and with little results.You can define results in a number of ways..
11:02 The players on the teams you reference receive quality training and all improve if they put in the effort. The other alternative is for parents to learn how to coach and take the game back from the hired trainers.... hopefully that's a task for the current group of players as they get older.
11:02am-How do you define results? Rate the trainers of these clubs at these age groups for us then if you are the wealth of knowledge. Seeing as how it's tryout season i'm sure we're all interested to know who you rate as the highest.
Nobody knows how DA changes things, but PDA and MFA are miles ahead when it comes to college. Even on boys side MFA comes right after PDA and CSA for college.
I forgot Red Bulls #1 on boys side.
1109 - all good trainers, as long as you have the cash. If you are good enough, just go to PDA and the ride will come. You have to be very good though. Pda does have a 20 percent drop off, not a 60 to 70 percent like your diluted pools. That's your problem and will never go away, when the new kid shows up every week trying to start the next best club.
Isn't PDA just an aggregator of girls that were properly trained by PSA, SDFC, Crush, Stallions,STA coaches? Seriously how many kids that played PDA at U10 are still playing ECNL at U15?!Aren't the top players from these clubs doing the same level of training as future DA? So puzzled by the haters up in here.
I'd say 50% or so of the LYON/Galaxy U10/U11 year are still on the ECNL team or Pre-ECNL team. Kids that got hurt most were the late year birthdates. Someone close please correct me if I am wrong.
810 -Yes, you are correct. Most came from crush, stallions and psa. Even though psa was rec and stallings and crush both sucked at those age groups and all others. I think they all came to save some money too. Most girls were brought up from u5 from those clubs, don't know we're they would be without them? They all have full rides at PDA and play 100 percent. I heard 90 percent of the girls from PDA are gone from u10 and only a few left from u11 and 12. Brutal, don't go to that place.
We just moved into the PA-East area.Homework shows :Penn Fusion (DA) - regardless of recruiting top players, is the coaching quality and is playing time fair? If this is a 'toxic' environment where the cream rises to the top, is that's what best for a 14 yr old?FC Bucks (ECNL) - losing their coach or have already lost their starting coach this season, several age appropriate players playing up on 02 team, several young players playing up, getting crushed in ECNL scheduleContinental FC (ECNL) - they are losing their coach, new DOC coming in to coach but heard this person is out of state and may not even be available for tryoutsLehigh Valley (EDP) - coach has decent track record but have heard parents say that they play very direct and not enough possessionHow far away is PDA South from Philly???
11:18 - these are my comments:Penn Fusion - The environment is built to be competition and hard work at all times. TM is the coach of the '03 team this year, and CS will take over next year. CS is highly regarded and will definitely make your kid better. This team is already very good and I don't know how many changes will be made going into next year. I don't know the dynamics of the team on who is leaving or any of that though I assume much of the team will stay intact. Kid's are already coming to practices with the team, which will be essential since DA tryouts are only 1 day. I know you have to apply so maybe that will keep numbers down, but last year there were 100 kids for ECNL tryouts. Pretty hard to stand out if they don't already know you.Bucks - I don't know much about them except that they haven't been good and I don't see how that changes drastically heading into next seasonContinental - They haven't listed a coach so guessing PG is not coming back. My assumption is that Continental will improve as far as results if any kids who do not want DA, due to wanting to play other sports or play for school, come here. If you want to play at a high level and don't want DA in Eastern PA, I'd assume you would look to go to Continental before looking at Bucks. I'm not sure where else you'd go to play at a high level without DA to be honest. I don't know anything about Lehigh or PDA south.
Bucks has good coaches and has been successful for many years. They will benefit like Match Fit and Continental from kids wanting to play ECNL and will pick up kids from NJ and PA. It is all very cyclical. And, because of all of the changes with birth year and now ECNL vs. GDA, no telling what will happen. Certainly worth checking out as well.
I think 1118 and 1136 are sisters
How are cherry hill and rush in south jersey in this age group? How is their training?
I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. guidancesports.com
This year SJEB and rush will merge to form SJEB rush 03 team. The merger should create a pretty competitive team/environment. Don't know about cherry hill.
Tryouts this weekend for Liverpool FC
Where is Liverpool FC playing out of - web site suggests Texas?
3:54 appears to be a troll. Gotta work around it. :)
Liverpool is a cool little quaint village heading north on US 15 in PA.You can drop off kids for tryouts and find a XXX dive to hang out within stone's throw. Then you can jump in the Susquehanna river to wash off.
Clickk here for Liverpool - NJ Tryout page
No way I'm clickkkking on that link...
#ecnlphx in 4 days. Lets go Region 1
Will all MF players fly out? First loss today with the new 28 person roster.
Tied yesterday and lost today. The Average-Gamers bringing their "A" Game. Same old story. Ties and losses. Just what they are known for. I'm sure the style and flair was impressive. Ha
10:21 im not sure who sucks more you or your kid. What was she not invited to A5? Whatever A game did for your kid im sure it helped her game. If she wasnt a favorite sorry. But she certainly got better under him. Now you are stuck with C-game coaches at crush. A subsidiary of a B level DA at cedar stars which apparently had some incident recently. Stop your whining. Your kid will be stuck in neutral while others progress for the next 8 months. If you arent PDA DA you are not in a better spot than mf. Those teams will be sorted by next year. Will have a top ecnl and npl team.
Some tool is getting upset with what the current FACTS are. Have no idea what the future may bring. The FACTS are the FACTS. 28 players and a team that is in 10 place and a team that tied and lost this weekend with its new "A" Game roster. Live in the moment since no one knows what the future may be. I guess the MF coaches are doing a great job being in 10 place.
Both games were lower end bracket league games.
28 is a lot of kids. how will you guys work out the trip this week?
Expensive trip, only 18 will go. Assume non of the new kids will be on that bus.
5:24 AM - Nice comments DV. Keep up the good work and keep alienting the rest of the soccer coaches in North Jersey. You are very well liked. Ha.
MFA has one kid who is an elite goal scorer. Anyone who has played this team knows who that is. When she is out they struggle to score. Not sure if any of the new kids are elite goal scorers, but MFA beat both the CT teams in the fall I think. Work in progress. Will see them in a few weeks.
The new girls are not goal producers.
MFA U17s and U18s are nationally elite teams and will be in the mix for championships IMO, especially 18s. U14-U16, works in progress. Some of the pieces in place good teams, but not nationally or regionally elite. Younger teams range from a mess to excellent. Club knew there would be growing pains with move north and age change. All in all, good club, same issues as every other club. The biggest of which is parents who have no realistic understanding of how good there kids are. BTW, they rank the kids but my guess is some parents are too detached to realize it.
@11;34 Of course they rank the kids, all the clubs do. The question is, how do parents know where their player is ranked? No one wants to ask the coach. If your kid is not playing much, they aren't ranked high. Simple. I don't think parents are detached.
1134 is a coach or doc from MF. Pretty sad organization.
28 on a roster for a team that is ranked bottom third in league is very impressive.How they can have so many paying for this is impressive. Why not try to play PDA ecnl?That team will be looking for girls next year as half the team probably moves to the DA.Call me crazy, but given the choice between the two, I would go PDA. And pretty sure their staff doesn't watch this blog....
We do now....
give MF a break. they beat FC Bucks...
Parent, not a Doc or Coach. I have empathy for many of the current group. Some of the things posted here are just nuts though. PDA ECNL as a great option is an example. Yes it is, but do you understand how tough those teams are to make, and BTW they roster a boat load of kids as well. Grass is always greener.
I agree, 11:34 is either the ecnl director or doc. I am a mfa parent. Fortunately, my daughter is a starter and seems to still be a starter despite all these mid season additions. With that being said, she will be looking elsewhere come 5-1. Why? Simple, this club seems dirty to me. Bringing on so many, even though I know they can, seems wrong and unethical. Give them offers for the next season but let them fulfill their obligations to their team and mfa should fulfill their obligations to the current team. Even to my kid, at 14, she is disgusted. There are players on this team who are not being rostered or moving to npl who are not being given a chance. One in particular stands out and my daughter can't believe that she wasnt rostered this past weekend. I watched the new girls playing in her position. One was very good, the others were good but not great. The thing that sucks about that is that these A GAME girls are a group package. Meaning , this one player who didnt get rostered probably won't have much of a shot now even though the new girl is just average because mfa won't have the balls to single one of them out. My daughter plays confidently and she will thrive anywhere. I will not continue to line matchfits pockets with my hard earned cash when it is clear that they are only money hungry peeps. And we are in 10th place and it doesn't look like that is going to change anytime soon. Wc and pda are looking better and better and they may just like taking my daughter off of mfa's hands.
I found this quote funny from the Average Game facebook pageRespect the Training Honor the Commitment Cherish the ResultsSeems like the second line doesn't apply to him or the players that left NJ Crush halfway through a season with their teammates stranded. The guy is such a tool.
He is a fraud. What a joke of a statement from Ass Game. Clearly he doesn't practice what he preaches. He has embarrassed himself and the families he conspired with. I don't even think all the Average Gamers played in both games this past weekend. For Ass Game the grass is greener in his pocket as that is what is important to him which he is entitled to. The question is at what cost to your reputation.
2:36 I am so glad someone else said it. My daughter said the same thing to us this weekend. Team unity is a huge factor and our girls are a casualty of this merger of teams. I have already emailed NYCFC, PDA and WC about my daughter. Funny thing is, NYCFC isn't an ECNL club so she can try out with them tonight.
Is MF trying to build up their younger squads? Pre-ecnl (current U12) U13 in fall aren't too competitive. I wonder what the turnout will be at tryouts. I'm not sure avout the current U13s?
You say PDA is so hard. I'm sure they have a drop off like every other team and have 4 to 6 that can be replaced. There roster looks like 20, so not huge. And I agree, next year will be much easier because a lot of the girls will play DA and open up ECNL spots.
CRUSH guy is back. So obvious, not worth posting...
Is no one considering that the ECNL teams are just that close in parity (even PDA lost to East Meadow, right?). Sometimes even close in parity to the NPL teams. MFA lost a lot of its shine in transition while WC, PDA and NPL clubs got better. Natural for change to happen, i assume everything will change next year again.What's the deal with DA tryouts for ECNL players - are there official rules?
I don't think people even know how hard it is to make the top PDA team. Their second team is very good (fast, press high and move the ball well). Kids that made ID2 and were good/confident players had hard time cracking into the top team (not necessarily on the 2003 team) But I would assume the same case to be true.
whoa, PDA lost to East Ghetto, err Meadow?
thats funny. When PDA loses 1 in 20 or so games, they become the same as MF.
Yes, MF is on par witn every ecnl team. The rankings are not fair. We should have beat WNY, they had 5 un-answered goals. Now that we have the new girls, we have become much stronger too.
As I said, I am parent not a coach or doc. My kid is happy, and it sounds like same team. Good luck to you. Zero hard feelings.
9:57 PM - Are you nuts? MF is in 10th place out of 14 teams. And if you think the new girls are going to help you are going to be very disappointed. Get ready for a long and frustrating spring season. Good luck with that team chemistry.
@2:36 - it is sad that politics play over talent - of the 6 six girls that moved from Crush to MFA only two are possibly ECNL level players. the others, as you said, are part of the package. We saw the nepotism at Crush of the kids that did average game with average DV. They barely came out of the game and were convinced by average game guy that they were better then they were bc they didn't have to earn their playing time. DV sends out an email at beginning of season telling all the parents and players that if a player is not fit and doesnt hustle they will lose playing time. He forgot to add that the rule didnt apply to his A gamers. And now they will suffer the repercussions bc it will only be a matter of time that MF will realize only a third of the six girls can play at ecnl level. what will they do when they are moved to an inferior NPL MF team. As players move up in leagues, speed because so much more important. and I can't imagine MF parents will sit on the sideline or even at home when their daughter isn't rostered for games, and not complain. Time bomb waiting to go off.
MF ECNL is no better than most NPL teams. Next year ECNL will be the new NPL. They should be fine. MF will also lose many kids to travel and pure frustration with the club. PDA and CS will take the top 6 players for GA and a few others will go to PDA ECNL. MF is a very average club across tne board and year in and year out create internal team issues.
9:47 which two?
Matchfit had a decent run when they first began in ECNL. They took the whole Montclair Colchester group a few years ago and built their reputation on that group. No doubt that group of girls were a dream team. All went High level D1. After that team left, while they still had a few talented players who were siblings of one of the Colchesters, they have not done anything...oops, I take that back they did manage to take on a group of players from a club in Sparta, runaway with the league at U14 last year, then fired their coach and the team up and left. After this years U18 team graduates out, it does not look good for MF
Everyone knows these boards are mostly packed with morons withh some good insight sprinkled in. This u14 blog takes the cake for high moron to low good info ratio. You guys should spend some time on the older blogs and learn something. This group really knows nothing about how it works out there. Good luck next year at start up DA programs. If you are not PDA you are screwed. Pda, pf, MF the only programs in nj area producing consistent college players. Look at wc last five years. Extremely weak. Good luck DA. Dumb Ass.
1153 - you are backing up MF, so you must have a daughter on that team. Who is the dumb ass?
@11:02 AM - DV you tell us? Which two have the most style and flair?
thanks MF for just confirming that we want nothing more to do with you. We will finish out this year, because unlike you, we made a commitment and we do not go back on our commitments. I'd rather have my kid play on a town team than subject her to the morals and standards you set. This moron is taking her daughter elsewhere, and I will try to take as many of our other moronic friends with us. I hear Crush has a great new coach coming in.
This is the craziest blog ever. You should remember that these are young girls who play on every one of the teams mentioned on here. Shame on some people who are writing and bringing them down. A lot of issues here with adults and supposedly good parents. The group who showed me this blog are laughing but quite frankly I find it disturbing. Time to reflect and use your time productively rather than bringing down 14 year old girls. These girls could easily read this blog. Keep that in mind. And yes, I'm a parent and it doesn't matter from which team or town. Good day!
1:38The issue is out there. And is being discussed here. This type situation affects so many - At issue:a) A club fired a coach midseason for what they felt was an unforgiveable transgression. Should they have waited?b) The coach committed the transgression. When caught - and fired, should HE have behaved differentlyc) The parents who were playing for this coach - could THEY have remained at the club under a very good replacement coach and gone elsewhere at season's end?d) The new club, taking in 6 players at an inopportune time for the rest of the team - just to get kids (numbers and talent) in the program - possibly a coach as well. Lets continue
@1:38Give it a break lady. The issues are with clubs, coaches and parents. Crush parents are idiots for abandoning their old team and mfa club is crap for taking all those kids on to an already large roster. If kids know about this blog it's bc their big mouth parents told them about it. And the facts don't lie, mfa still didn't get a win with any of the new players. Zero chemistry, zero comaraderie, they will continue to lose bc its karma.
@ 2:43. Your facts are incorrect. I think it is time everyone move on from this and wish all these kids and teams well for the season. There is a 50/50 split in regards to what was done wrong by both sides. Just like in American football, penalties offset- replay the down!!! #NJSOCCER
2:48 PM - 2:43 is NOT incorrect. Those are the FACTS. Believe and twist what you want. I'm still waiting to hear what the Crush management did wrong? Let me put it this way. If you were an athletic director at a college and you got wind that your head coach was telling his players to transfer to another program that you compete with what would you do as the employer.
2:59 Unfortunately Crush is guilty of the same thing with the Clarkstown coach
fake news - the clarkstown coach took a job for next year and was upfront with Clarkstown - they in turn fired him. He has not steered any girls from Clarkstown to Crush
Exactly. Keep distorting the truth. The facts are the facts.
I'm curious as who is supposed to be swayed by any of the above arguments? Is it about people coming out to be apologetic, guilt tripping or monetary compensation? A lot of energy being spent in front of a computer and not training!
What about when one of your big wig coach left torpedoes red and came with a huge part of a team? And left all the girls behind? What about when you and a bunch of players did the same thing? Only difference is that it was end of so called season... I remember when soccer was a fall sport and baseball and Lacross was spring.
None of the clubs care about the coaches and how good they are, they just care about how many players they can bring and recruit. Club makes about 1k profit per kid, they all add up. Has anyone ever heard of a coach leaving PDA and kids following them? Has anyone ever heard of a coach leaving a club and taking a whole group to PDA?
I've heard of small clubs becoming PDA at the shore or south of jersey.
I'm confused...is Susan Rice Russian?
Well it's official... Match fit is taking 5 agamers to Phoenix as some original players rostered dropped off probably due to disgust with the treatment of this club. Team is a mess girls are upset which will result in poor play. Hope the ones going are at least making a vacation out of the trip. Reading through prior blogs totally agree two girls from agame are good players. what is funny is that one in particular got 100 percent playing time this weekend. just because someone is big doesn't make them a better player. Personally feel this player is lazy, had poor ball handling skills and was calling the midfielders back to her before passing balls. Really if you can't pass to the midfield you have no business on the field at this level Should take bets on how many goals she scores for the other team. Also started mouthing off with parents from other team. Parents were wrong for starting but she wasn't corrected for her behavior... In fact when the most recent player dropped off roster she wa invited. May 1 can't come soon enough.....
Phoenix is beautiful this time of year....
MF is a disgrace. These players have earnerd nothing on their own. Not their fault. They have and are being put in situations where they are not qualified for. These girls have been paying Average Game and in turn he is vested to be their advocate. The girl you are referencing has been put in a bad position. She is in way over her head. Not her fault. She shouldn't have been on starter on the a team at Crush and maybe shouldn't have been on the a team at all. Several girls on the b team were/are better. AgaIn a false sense of security that was given by Average Game. Not the kids fault at all.
To all my fellow MF parents who are unhappy, I strongly recommend you start reaching out to other teams now to let them know your child is interested in trying out with their club. If it is another ECNL club, we have to wait until May 1st to tryout. We do not have to wait to bring the girls to Non-ECNL clubs tryouts. I brought my daughter to NYCFC's already, and will bring her to any other club that will keep her love for soccer intact. Do not wait until May 1st to take action. That is an ECNL only rule.
Me again, you can call me "moron" Matchfit Man. Just thought I'd post tryout information for my fellow Matchfit parents. We can attend this one for Crush. Monday April 24th 6:30pm-8pm AND Thursday April 27th 6:30pm-8pm
I'm sure any MF players that want to move now would be welcome at Crush as they only have 10 players on the NPL team.
Highly doubt kids paid for and decided to skip AZ. Not sure how many you can take, but they need to field the best team they can with the roster they have.
There were originally 16 rostered. Three pulled out and then the five crush girls were added for a total of 18 going. The crush girls did nothing for us this weekend except further divide the girls.
Is anyone looking into the new PSA location in Fort Lee?
So complain to your Coach and/or Director of Coaching. Do something other than helping to divide. This is comical from the outside. Stop whining!
I am a MF (old) parent and my daughter likes (most) of the new girls. If the team is no longer a good fit for you, time to move on. Maybe reach out and seek to understand! Let's go win some soccer games people
Spot on @ 3:13. The other youth blogs are EVEN WORSE if you can believe that. Calling out Coaches who supposedly drank with kids at Jeff Cup. There is no value here and I think only a few people are posting things as SEVERAL other people to fuel their hype. DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ ON THIS SITE!!!!!
MF played bottom of the league this weekend and did not do well. Truth be told - NYSC will have the dominant team for GA next year. The best of this MF team will probably play CS DA when they announce the merger. May be weird to see some of the crush and MF players on the same team again at cedar stars. I'm sure the parents will be fine...
DA is nonsense.
You suck. No you suck. Your daughter sucks. No your daughter sucks. U14 SOCCER FOLKS.
3:38I think Cedar Stars - Monmouth will be the base of the Cedar Stars DA teams.
DA is stupid
What is the A5 tie-in though? From what I heard not all of the A5 girls joined MF and few that joined were not linked to A5. It would seem that the old heat from 2 years ago moved on once old coach was no longer coaching. It seems the writing was already on the wall.
Incredible! This only illustrates how MF is unable to train athletes and has to replace core of its team with outsiders in order to be competitive. If you are top 3 - you should be trying out for another team. If you are 4-9, you will be 10-15 on the bench. If you are 9+ you will be made redundant. Dog eat dog. Only the ruthless survive!
Just leave A Game girls out of it already. They are quality, good kids who adore the game. If you have an issue with DV, contact him directly like an adult.And for those Crush lovers, didn't you also try to bring over the entire Clarkstown team, like the entire thing, 3 weeks ago but were unsuccessful and now claim a different story. That was the talk on the sidelines this weekend, throwing stones. You claim morale high ground but have none.
Keep distorting the truth. They NEVER had that discussion. Everything was about next year and the Clarkstown coach was UPFRONT about it and didn't go behind his employers back. In fact he did what a normal and respectful person would do and informed his employer of his future intentions. They call that giving notice. Not being a sneaky snake in the weeds like Ass-Game. Not ONE kid was poached or offered a spot for the Spring season let alone a whole team. Keep making up this FAKE NEWS.
5:59 nice try DV! busted for spreading false news!
Has clarkstown seen the crush fees. Get ready to join the most expensive club in NJ.
And they make you wear orange uniforms. Maybe that's why they left...
Crush parent here. Cost less than WC, MF, and PDA. More fake news
How do you know? I have been there and know for a fact that it's more than WC. Back it up.
are you comparing Crush to PDA, really?
Crush Its by farrrr the most expensive b-team quality club around. For the quality of staff it should be 1500. That clarkstown coach sucks that team was good at u12.
WC has 4 levels $1000, $1900, $2100 and $2600 for ECNL. What are the Crush prices? Prices at WC is for everything
What do you get for $1,000? Sit on the bench in your pajamas hoping you will play in 6 months? :)
How much is crush? You said it was cheaper.
two years ago we paid over 3500. They even rent the teams their own facilty at full rates. At ECNL now and pay about 500 less when all said and done. Winter fees are very low. And we practice and play at same place with real fields.
Matchfit this upcoming year will be $3600, that doesn't include tournaments or coaches travel costs. Sounds like a bargain
Not true, no fees have been discussed. Nice try CRUSH. If they did charge that, would get a lot more than you get. Need to catch a flight, going to ECNL tournament...
Good luck, the ECNL tournaments are extremely well run. Always in great complexes, in nice climates at right time of year. They even use real referees and real college coaches come to watch. I also like when they align with spring break in cool locations. To bad they moved from San Diego, that was the best location and complex was spot on.
So you're saying these programs are 6 to 8000.00 all-in when you get done with your year? 3500 plus tournaments and coach's trave, and then your travel, your hotel rooms, your food, apparel...its no wonder the best athletes in this country do not play soccer. easily 6 to 8000. who the heck can afford that?
That's not a real number, but your number is. What team do you play for and how much do you spend. Be honest please.
I guarantee you $3600 is MF fee for next year. Wait and see.
At WC right now. We paid $2600. I did pay a little extra for an extra day of winter training, but that was optional. The club does offer additional opportunities to play in Winter tournaments, but my daughter plays basketball so we did not do them. They were pay to plays which the girls who only play soccer chose to do. We also have an easy payment plan at WC which has made it easier to pay. Do other clubs have payment plans? We were at a much smaller club before and had to pay our registration fees up front, then additional fees throughout the year
Mf predictions for Arizona? Pda tourney predictions?
What's my prediction for MF? "Prediction? Paaainnnnn
Mf, we will be lucky if we win Sunday's game. I say we come back losing all three. Possibly squeak out a tie on Sunday. At least I'll enjoy good weather.
Plus the 179 coaches on the sidelines
1:15. Not at U14. Unless there is a superstar on either team, there will be no coaches there. Been there. Coaches start coming to the U15 games at PDA. That is when you will see all the coaches
Clubber Lang will be there
"Match Fit is 3600That doesnt include tournaments"What???? You get a bill for each "extra" event?
I hope no one from WC is on this blog. They will raise their prices. lol
Well known fact that you have to pay for additional tournaments at MF and they aren't included in the fee.
2/3 of WC coaches are license C and lower. That's more or less on par with most town travel teams. Unless you get a decent trainer - don't pay full price.
My daughter's coach at WC has a B license. That's all I care about. Funny when I google the first coach listed on the girls side of Matchfit, the first thing that comes up is a criminal charge
yikes!really begs the question what do these clubs do to vet these coaches? it seems MF, and CrushCSA really just hire coaches because they have a bundle of players that will come along with their parents' checkbooks. Are the clubs coming to 3,4 practices, evaluating the training plans, speaking to parents, doing a background finger print check, anything? Doubtful.
Crush vets its coaches quite thoroughly.They have turned down top players/teams in the past because they didnt want a coach coming along.Did they make a mistake with the former 2003 NPL guy? I dont know - that's an interesting debate.
PDA and Matchfit both get shutout in Pheonix. Terrible showing for NJ. Anyone know if these games are being streamed?
The real clubs require clearances from all coaches, if they dont, its a big red light. These clearances are a law in Pennsylvania, not sure about New Jersey. Our club requires Child Abuse, Criminal Record, and FBI background. It is the same clearances that our schools require for volunteers.
2:12, they're kids. Go find a hobby.
@ 2;47this is a youth soccer blog. Obviously team wins and losses will be discussed so you can kiss my ass. And by the way, are we really surprised that MFA lost 3-0?
Pda has to play top three teams in so cal, good luck ladies. MF has a little easier schedule based on ECNL standings, but all great teams. That complex is awesome, at least you will have good conditions, good weather and great comp. make NJ proud and don't get blown out please.
NJ coaches are purely evaluated on their accent and a grip of their handshake.
@247 I guess we hit a nerve. PDA parent not used to losing? Guess what. Your team is average compared to the rest of the country. Likely not even the best team in NJ anymore. #overrated
South Cali has a concentration of 13 future DA clubs in a radius of 50 miles while NJ has 3-5?. PDA has been blocking ECNL club applications from clubs for years hoping to maintain monopoly on best athletes. Unfortunately, they forgot to develop the competition in the meantime and rules of engagement changed. I'm sure they will get better as the showcase goes on and they adapt, but imagine if they could play better competition more often.
Stop the bashing of 7th and 8th grade children. This is is a game. Get a life.
Didn't Matchfit play the strikers, the number one team in the south west? Doesn't sound like an easy schedule to me.
According to YSR - Strikers are 5th team in the Cali South. PDA played the #1 team. Both teams would clean up in Region 1, nothing to sneeze at.
California pop is about the same as Boston to Raleigh. Of course they have more clubs. PDA is the foundin club and they worked hard to block MFA. Now the clubs are relatively close and work hard to block everyone else. BTW, there is no club that meets the current standard,so no blocking is needed.
Cedar stars will be the #1 club in the region. Follow the money....
california has 2 regions - north and south. entire pop is 39 which is NY, NJ, CT and MD.
Look at the ID2 list of invitees:http://usclubsoccer.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GIRLS-ROSTER-id2-Training-Camp-2017-03-23-Westfield-IN.pdfNone of the girls from local ECNL (PDA/EM/MF/WC) clubs made the invite list and majority or california ECNL teams have gotten their invites. How do you make it into ID2?
How do you make ID2? Same as how you make a college team, PDP, ID2, NTC or other top units...you have to be able to play! And thats what the big money spending parents will soon discover. No matter how much money you spent over the 10 years of her youth career, no matter how many hours of weekly commuting you did to drag her to your fancy club practices, if she can't play they are looking right past her.
Hmmm. I notice two girls from NJ Crush on that list. Interesting that they aren't part of the 6 Average-Gamers that left. Very telling.
Dont sweat the small stuff. Lots of MF/PDA/EM girls at last years' camp:http://usclubsoccer.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/GIRLS-ROSTER-id2-Training-Camp-2016-09-29-Portland-CT.pdf
Where is the dick today? The scores must be killing you. U can't rip on 13 year old girls today.are u playing on the north field today in orange? You must be so proud.
lots of college coaches and national team coaches headed to the north field today.
Crush rules. Best club in state. They should have da and ecnl. Pda keeps blocking them.
So only 5 players from NJ made the ID2 camp? 3 from STA and 2 from NJ Crush. Good for them
This is us club, right? Hope someone from us soccer shows up to see them. Do you even know the difference?
US Soccer are the guys without the plan that are running the DA and torpedoing ECNL?
4:00 "Garrett Biller and Bobby Puppione were on-site to scout boys and girls players, respectively, on behalf of U.S. Soccer for potential future invitations to youth national team programming. NPL General Manager Leo Garcia oversaw the event." Congrats to the NJ girls. See you at the PDA tryouts!April 11th 8:00-9.30May 3rd 5:00-6:30ORApril 17th 5:00-6:30May 2nd 6:30-8:00
so you hate us soccer and the DA too.
top drawer should write an article about your team. Ten players who you can't watch play..
Clueless and jealous. The style and flair was so awesome to watch. BRUTAL.
top drawer from 3 days ago. http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/2017/04/how-youth-teams-are-straddling-the-ecnl-development-academy-divide/"the migration will likely be noticeable as U.S. Soccer’s WNT scouts cannibalize their own events (they have financial reasons to do this, too) and increasingly turn away from ECNL’s spate of showcases and playoffs"
MF loses again today. But because they now have A-Gamers they get some points for flair and style. #winless
win or lose. style will be one of the criteria coaches will look for, especially when used in the right context, executed with the right speed and proper attitude and respect towards the team and the opponent.
Tell that to Jürgen Klinsmann. All you guys hide behind that stuff. When it produces results its great when it doesn't we hear how beautiful they played and what a pleasure it was to watch. Its about producing measurable results not opinions on which style is better than another. Accountability
514 has a lot time and pent up anger. This would be a good case study for Harvard.
5:22 PM - Jill Ellis has returned. How's it going in Fairfield.
5:22 PM - Jill Ellis has returned. How's it going in Fairfield Jill?
Wait, Matchfit sent their U14's across the country instead of Jeff Cup? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Like ever. Why would they do that?
you sir are a moron. If you only knew what these ECNL events are like. I'm sure nothing that you have ever experienced and never will playing rec soccer at CRUSH. Nice work MF, a 1 0 loss is very respectful against the teams you played.
Yep. After you played all the local competition and lose/tie most of them you get on a plane and go out west to lose and tie to those teams in front of scouts. Ha. Didn't MF just tie the b team from Crush and get shutout by SUSA. MF is horrible.
Have you ever seen a real tournament? I know CRUSH has their own and you guys play each other. You should come and experience an ECNL showcase event. At least you can watch some soccer, instead sitting on your fat ass ripping on young girls.
Notice that crush can't get into PDA tournamants? I wonder why?
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