This blog is pathetic.
why is it pathetic? what just took place between DV and Crush and Matchfit is unacceptable. Playtime is subjective to the coach and whether he determines if a player is more or less than another. We sign on for that. What we don't sign on for is a coach holding himself as the captain of the boat and then jumping ship with his best paying 6 customers leaving the rest of the passengers with issues without even telling most of us. Lets be clear. DV was no leader, is no leader, is not a mature substantial person. And you all know it. He is though very good at building technical skills, I'll give you that. He looks the part. And he is quite good at building and sustaining ego, very good at drumming up the all mighty dollar and finding a path that suits him best. All his facebook posts showing your kids to the world? Do you really want your kids photos and videos on web for the whole world to see, or have you also bought into the ego feed. They say you embrace the attitude and character of your mentors! Good luck to all of you!!
@4:51pm. Where are you? How many girls from Primo played with Clarkstown at Jeff Cup? Keep up your credibility.
TRUE LOVE IS OKAY BUT A SERIES OF FALSE LOVES GIVES YOU MORE VARIETY
The crush guy mentioned all the girls that went to id2 from his club and how Pda and ecnl didn't have any recommended. So why is he now trying out for Pda and NYSC if they are so bad?
The same reason why the top player from PDA was at the NYCFC DA trying out yesterday. Players should explore opportunities during TRYOUT SEASON.
FYI - its NYCFC not NYSC. NYSC is another club. They have Boys DA. Girls teams are great but based on back of the net - a whole bunch of girls tried out for NYCFC. Dont know - wasnt there.
Anyone here that was invited back to nycfc for a callback? Did it really happen?
The call back was Friday.
Is this true about the PDA player trying out for GDA in NY? I thought current ECNL players were not allowed to try out for another affiliated team even if GDA until after May 1st. That is what we were told. Where can we get the correct information? Anyone?
Absolutely true that the PDA player was there. Also don't know how there can be a May 1 rule when the tryouts have already begun and continue through April.
NYCFC is not an ECNL club so they can have players from any club attend tryouts. There is no May 1 rule for Non ECNL DA teams. However, ECNL players can not tryout at PDA because they are an ECNL club.There was a tryout for a select group of players on Friday night. There was another call back just emailed out again today.
I have to say, I think it's rotten of the people who come onto blogs and say that certain players are showing up to different tryouts. That is their business. Worry about your own kids and stop making other people's lives yours.This is a kid people.
See no harm in stating players from one club were at another club's tryouts. What is so rotten about it?
9:04 Let's start with the fact that there is a good chance that her teammates and coaches will now know. There is also a good chance that she will now be treated unfairly. There's no harm there right? She's only a kid, being treated unfairly never hurt any kid.
Every coach within minutes knows when one of their existing players goes to another tryout. They all have their spies. All the kids talk and post on social media.
You would be surprised on the number of kids aleady training with other teams. It's none of anyone business but them. People who jump on the ECNL wagon need to wake up. There are many good players that don't play ECNL. Parents you are stressing your kids out way too much they are 14!!!!!!
Sorry, but you are crazy if you think pda doesn't know that she is looking elsewhere. One thing that has become abundantly clear, after being involved in youth soccer for too many years, these coaches ALL know when and where their players are looking. You are being naive if you think you can do anything on the sly. Looking at other clubs is expected at this time of year. What's not expected at this time of year is your club taking on 10 new players now. Beware of mfa, they may have the ecnl but they don't care about developing a strong team. They only care about your wallet. We were warned about this club and we chose to overlook the negative and boy do we regret it. My daughter, fortunately, gets playtime but we will not give this club another dime. Just remember, you do not have to play in the ecnl to play in college. Don't drink the kool-aid like we did!
My daughter was at another team's tryout for exactly 6 minutes, when my phone rang and it was her existing coach asking why she was there.You cannot hide anything in this world of youth soccer
That coach is a bit of a whackjob, 12:49
It's kind of pathetic as far as tattling in the soccer world. I could not be bothered. If you want think something is better for you and your kid, then you go find it. It's YOUR money. Just curious, what did you tell him/her?
I have the same rule with my kid as I do the coach. Keep me out of it, communicate with each other. If for some reason you can't LMK. So far so, good.
@12:12- All these teams have the same version of the Kool-Aid. Nobody is teaching basic soccer in the US. It is all about kick-and-run (sorry PDA) and just getting fast girls. Quality possession type players will not see much time on many of these teams.We all make fun of skills and blast coaches that teach them but this is why US Soccer is on a downfall..... can't compete with TRUE TALENT that the rest of the world builds!Upgraded 'Travel' Teams that cannot make 2-3 clean passes and dribble with head down. Just run through people and hope for the best.... Won't last long.
@522 - then go back home and coach there.
So the us women can't compete? Really?
I agree with 5:22! I was counting passes at some recent tournament matches. 3 pings tops before a turnover. And dirty dirty aggression! many are downright disgraceful with the cheap dirty plays.
Match fit tryouts tonight let's see if they can push the roster up higher ..
Biggest complaint at all levels in youth soccer is the unwillingness to use yellow and red cards. Can ruin the game.
@1:08Pretty much told him I didn't hear a guarantee from him or club that my daughter would get top team again so keeping our options open.She's a better than average defender and defense just "exists" to him so not much feedback unless you screw up.She requested I look around at other options...
pda first tryouts were last night. Any feedback? my daughter can't attend until after 5-1.
Bunch of girls thereHeard teams pretty already decidedThe tshirts were cool
Assman can't be that bad. 2 Crush teams in the state cup final 8.Any predictions who wins?
Very quiet on the boards tonight - guess everyone is attending the MatchFit tryouts after all.
yes. Some town team. Like crush. Torpedoes red is better.
Good luck at MF tryouts. I'm sure Ass-Game already manipulated the tryout. The style and flair with mesmerize you in tryouts. #smokeandmirrors #winless
On a more serious note that is addressed to the parents of the younger 03s. Given you have no ability to be involved in HS soccer - how will you be getting your child ready so that they do not spend next year on the bench. What are clubs offering, personal - small team training, etc
MF tryouts were well attended. Looking promising
I bet. When you are in 11th place there is only upside. I wonder how many they will roster.
9:29pm. Email the coach and ask what they're doing for the middle schoolers.The one i emailed said they would probably train with the 04 NPL team 3 times a week until HS is over. Or if they have enough 03 players to train on their own until the rest of the 03 team is finished with HS and begin back up as a team. If a club provides nothing or doesn't give me a clear answer on those Fall months then i'm not interested in sending my daughter there.
Some clubs with multiple teams practice and play in the fall as 8th graders and then re-mix the teams in November and bring on the 9th graders. EDP had the '2002' age group last year, and I assume they will have the '2003' age group this year. Best to check with club.
My kid is in that boat. Where she is about 60-70% of the players will be in 9th grade and 30%+ are in the 8th. The plan for the 8th graders is to train in Sept/Oct/November and play some Friendlys, subject to having enough players. If they have the current split, they will have just enough.
I know last year the ECNL clubs combined their ECNL and NPL teams and did a few friendlies for those girls that were caught without a fall season
I have never seen such an uneducated group of "soccer moms" and "soccer loser dads". This is America. We have capitalism. We have choices. We have freedoms of expression. We have laws that control how contracts are written. We pay the clubs, they don't pay us. We owe them NOTHING. There is not a single coach in NJ who can take a group of girls and mold them into a winning style of soccer. You are not being smart if you delegate your development to a coach. Take personal responsibility. All you guys care about is the sticker on the back of your car to brag about which club you vicariously play for. I sure hope you pay as much attention to your childs education as you do nonsense soccer blogs. If you can't see the writing on the wall that your player doesn't belong on a DA team or ECNL team or an NPL team or an EDP team or a JAGs team...then you are not being honest. There is no college money for just soccer. Very rare instances. Get real and teach your daughter how to play the game the right way. If you want her to do it all herself, teach her golf. Soccer is a team sport and very few youth teams play that way. Girls soccer in NJ is going downhill very fast. Primarily because of parents who write on blogs and don't know what good soccer looks like.
Well said. This could apply to PA soccer as well. Remains to be seen if anything changes with GDA start up.
Not sure why you think DA is a solution for anything. I see it as diluting an already diluted pool. Instead of 3 top end teams from central and north jersey there are now 6. There werent even enough quality players to fill 3 club teams. Next year is going to be a disaster in DA. Plus the cornerstone DA clubs have plenty of bodies to stack the older age group in the DA and stack the younger age group in ECNL. So many mediocre girls getting DA offers. Places like WC and CS will have a lot of trouble competing. PDA can pull it off but thats about it in the region. The biggest clubs from around the country will be the biggest winners.
Looks like someone has a crystal ball and has gone to all the tryouts and already discussed teams with key coaches: >> Next year is going to be a disaster in DA.>> So many mediocre girls getting DA offers.>> Places like WC and CS will have a lot of trouble competing.
Well then, good reminder that NJ is not the only inportant state in the union
Is inportant kind of like in-famous? Oh, Dusty. In-famous is when you're More than famous. And do you know what a Plethora is?
@9:11Huh..WC isn't doing DA. Only ECNL.Does anyone know who the DA coaches will be for NYCFC?
10:47Its Kaz. Same thing. Dont fool yourself. Now instead of one team that cant compete they will have two.
Is there going to be a new director of poaching?
I read this blog every other day for entertainment purposes. Thank you for the laughs. 9:33 got it right on.
It's all about HASHTAGS!#clueless#selfserving#selfish#badteammates#quitters#wasteofenergy#1-31#winless#lackofcommitment#drinkthejuice#cantfinish#dontproduce#headisalwaysdown#cantpass#wontpass#norespectforothers#badapple#cantlead#badreputation#unethical
You are missing the obvious one:#WengerOut
so cedar stars bergen/nj crush have new coach from clarkstown who has big plans for this team. Who was left from crush when half the team went to mfa encl.? Was there any quality players left to combine with his clarkstown players? supposedly they have applied for ecnl....so many variables to consider....
The top 3-4 players did not leave Crush. Could be a good team depending on who stays.
They can't get ECNL because they have DA
No way in hell pda allows them to move in on their cash cow. Not true best players left. two other good players that stayed going to pda.
The best have gone to MFA. Today's game was not even close.
Again you are clueless and lyIng. The top girl didn't play and the team was filled with U13 girls. Fact that the ODP and ID2 girls are still on the team. The team lost 3-1 in the fall when the U14 Average Gamers got BEAT for 3 goals. Want to dispute that FACT. Today Crush just filled the team with whatever players they could get.
Guys please enough with the false truths. If you were part of the team in the fall then you know that the best players stayed with Crush. Please stop lying and move the on. Everyone is where they want to be. Just stop distorting the truth. Over and done with. Enough on this subject.
Same troll?>> Today Crush just filled the team with whatever players they could get.and then>> you know that the best players stayed with Crush
Lots of kids on reg 1 odp that suck now and will suck in the future. Some id2 kids aren't very good either. North Jersey had too many kids in id2. STA had three. Just sayin.
You do realize that clubs have no pull in who ends up getting selected for ID2? Every club can put kids into the selection pool but It's about the coaches working at PDP events having the final say. Say what you want but a club putting kids into ID2 says something about how they develop players.
Nope I know nothing about id2 nc ct or in. Im just your basic grade 3 moron. No idea how it worked of works.
Well your grammar is that of a moron so I just wanted to make sure.
Poor, poor match fit. They got spanked today. Still winless.
I'm sure the college coaches will look past the fact that MFA is winless, and can't play, has no cohesion, no chemistry, no pace, no finishing, no game awareness...but they can do like 900 scissors and meaningless drags and snakes in 90 seconds shown to the world of an AverageGame social post #FreestyleDontWinGames
Matchfit coaches to blame. Sad that coach couldn't show up to the game and that covering coach played off of a play card of how to play the team. PATHETIC.. and then they took 03 starters to help the 02 team. 4 to 5 girls got little playing time. Oh and Vedder made a, appearance to watch the game. .. should have put him in to coach. He probably would have done a better job. Sorry no offense against the covering coach but he just sat back with no input.
I feel bad for all the new families who ran to mfa. You were hoodwinked!! They are a joke of a club and they are winless for a reason!
What was tne score of the game?
They lost 1-6.
Tryouts are may 10th! Spots available.
Did they move the 03 girls to 02 team to make more space for new recruits this season?
April 23, 2017 at 8:14 PM - Very true and sad. Do you know if the one goal was scored on a bicycle kick? They aren't being taught the fundamentals. Like you said they can do a million scissors with no defenders on them but can't make a simple pass to an open teammate. But I guess that is what Jill Ellis is looking for since I saw so many of those moves in the last USWNT game.
We were told that the girls got moved up to 02 because of injuries and the the move is tempoarary. I think we will see a lot of players leave mfa after this season. The club is sneaky and doesn't do any communicating with the parents at all until they are pushed to do it. Then they send an email out last night basically scolding families who questioned them. No respect to the parents who essentially pay their bills. #winless
Plenty of other good Clubs around the MF area to go to who do a far better job of developing players and communicating to parents. Better get your skates on MF parents, it's tryout week elsewhere!
The disease known as Average Game has infected Match Fit. Better get your shots.
Problem is parents are always deluded in regards to their kids. Other than a few kids at this age, none are good enough to go to a PDA ECNL or DA. Another handful can make the PDA NPL team. The rest are looking at small clubs or B sides at other clubs. My guess is far more return than is predicted, and that they can mend fences and both teams are pretty good. If you end up with 32 ECNL/NPL caliber kids who want to be there, roster two teams of 16. That allows you to add kids during the season. They also have the ability to do that all fall. One problem that would cause is the 8th graders to have no games in the fall. Interesting to see what happens. For outsiders, certainly not one big happy family but the noise here is a few disgruntled people I think.
The MF Kool Aid is quite tasty this time of year
@1047My issue with mfa , as stated , is their lack of respect for the parents who are paying thousands and thousands of dollars for them to develop our players. I agree, I'm sure there are families staying. They are gluttons for punishment who Probably believe that this is the only way to play collegiate soccer. I also do know that there are players, good players, starters, looking to leave. I do feel badly for all these new families coming on board believing everything they have been told. They will learn firsthand that mfa is a crappy club that does not care about the development of the player. Believe me, I wish things were better than they are But I am speaking the truth. We were winless before the new players and we are winless with the new players. We are winless for a reason. The coaching does a terrible job fostering teamwork. Everyone on the field is out for only themselves. This is fact. Come watch a game and you will see for yourself.
April 24, 2017 at 10:47 AM - Both teams are pretty good? Come on guys. No spin please. The ECNL is in 11th place and has lost its last 5 games. The NPL team is in 12th place. #wakeup
April 24, 2017 at 11:07 AM - You are correct. Each player is out for themselves. Did you not see the game yesterday? That is what they have been taught by Average-Game. A good players makes her teammates better. That is far from the case here. #selfish #keepdrinkingtheAGade
What Match Fit is doing to girls in middle school and early high school years is unacceptable. They are killing the love of the game for girls at an age when they need the sport more than ever. It is not about what team they are or how much they play. It is about respect. Match Fit has no respect for the parents, the players or the sport. It is not just a couple of parents it is at every age group and team. Parents want the best for their children and men like JR and DB take advantage of that while hurting the sport and the players. Pure ego. Pure greed. Pure mean. 'Changing The Game' starts with not allowing grown men to take advantage of young girls who just want to play a game they love. In competitive sports there are hard decisions and feelings do get hurt because not every player (or parent) can get what they want. Match Fit does not understand that those decisions need to be made with the best intentions and delivered with integrity and respect. So sad for the girls that were displaced at a delicate time and equally sorry for the girls who joined. Both groups of girls were treated with disrespect by Match Fit.
4 of the 03's (including 3 of the Ag-game or Average Game or whatever you call them, lol) are now on the '02 team which played very well this weekend. From what I heard from the MFA parents from 02, they played very well and will absolutely help a very injury ridden team. They did not play with the 03's.
And they just added a 29th player to the roster!
@ 11:14 you are a bitter, bitter man. Laughable.
@12:07What exactly is your point with this post? We know they played up to help the injured 02 team. We know it's a temporary move. What does it have to do with what's being discussed? Just seems like a random post. I bet you are a new guy to the team and want us all to know that your daughter played up and they won. Big deal! Let's hope that she helps our team win because that didn't happen when she played with us !
April 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM - You are a JOKE. Keep chasing it buddy. The proof is on the field and in the results. #winless #dontfogettoswallow
That same winless team ended the fall season with a 10 game stretch of 5-2-3. The two losses were 1-0 to PDA and Stars, they had beaten Stars earlier in the year. Talent is there to win. My guess is that is what upsets the parents the most. Losing the only kid who you would call a goal scorer to injury did not help, but you can't be so reliant on one kid.
If you want to do a proper analysis on the impact of team with and without players you can start with mapping against YSR rankingsMF U14 - 33.65 ratingWNY U14 - 35.69 ratingSo they underperformed by 2 goalsMF U15 - 34.83 BB U15 - 37.75 slightly overperformed WNY U15 - 34.52 overperformed by 2So the suggestion is that girls, if played, performed better than the ones that stayed to play U14. They should be happy with their performance at a higher level of difficulty - they belong there. You can ask yourself a question why there are so many NPL teams in the region with significantly higher rating and if your daughter is getting sufficiently decent competition during practice. (E.g. 7 non ECNL teams at U15 would be considered favorites in NJ alone and 6 at U14).
@12:14 This is a youth soccer blog. Should be positive and you seem to be the one trying to bring things down. Clearly self reflection. I suggest you look inside yourself or at least keep your angry rants to yourself.
@3:17Are you kidding me!? After reading through all these crazy posts, you think my post at 12:14 is negative and bringing it all down?! I simply asked asked what the point of your post was, it seemed very random. get a grip man #jackass
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha. Now that was funny
So what the heck is MFA telling these parents, who know that there are 20, 22, 25, 28, now 29 kids on the team, to give them any understanding of the minutes they will see on the field? Doesnt US Club limit legal printed roster sizes to 18 or 19, or is that game day roster size? Forgetting that little legalese, are they just assuring parents of minutes, collecting their checks and just dealing with the fall out? Quite a few very critical comments being made up here about this? do they just not tell the incoming parents how many they have carded.
I think people have the town team mentality still. In my opinion every communication with mfa has guaranteed nothing. There is a team for everyone. Not everyone that made ecnl in the fall has earned ecnl now. The message was always you have to make the ecnl roster every week. If not you get to play with npl. They also said of players could make the team better they would add them. This coach last weekend was not communicated well and was a disaster. Other than that they have never said we would have anything other than a team to play with.
Guys when you pay that kind of money the club owes you explanations. You may not agree with it but there should be open dialogue and there should be a player cap. The soccer guys get it all wrong. In AAU basketball the best teams are sponsored and costs the players nothing. You earn your spot. Nothing is a given. Playtime can be zero. But remember you haven't paid anything. You can also be replaced. Again fair game since you have paid nothing. The problem here is all these guys are in it to make money. In no other HS sports do they discourage the best girls not play. Why is that? The sport is becoming a joke and will continue to lose the best athletes to other sports.
ANy solid, reputable club should be up front and honest."mr and Mrs jones, little mia made the team bc she shows her hard work but will have to work hard for play time and we can only guarantee xx number of minutes per game"Then you decide if you want that team or not...If that doesn't happen, then you have to decide if your daughter actually did the work or did they just want your money...
Did the parents ask these questions? Would it make sense?If you don't grind it out during practice and during the game - that's typical at any club. Where it differs is your attitude towards your peers. Really, it's your teammates responsibility to push you and to motivate you even when you make a mistake, and that's how you learn to play as a team and to collaborate on the field. When you have to fight for your spot every day, that's when you realize it's not about teamwork but every girl for against each other.
Isn't this real life though?My daughter is in essence fighting to gain a spot. She may in fact be competing with really close friends for this, but real world
9:10, glad you are honest. It's about the money. Here is the reality, these clubs including MFA are not for profits. They make very little money. Is there outside stuff, sure. But the coaches work for that and get paid, generally at $90-$100 per hour, less after planning and off field stuff. I know it feels like you pay a lot, but when you add up the cost of the coaches, league feels, club overhead, Field time (outdoors and indoors), insurance, etc you will see that there is not much left. Who has more responsibility for their kids, the soccer club or the parents? With youth soccer, buyer beware. Make sure you are realistic about how good your kid is, their potential, and what club/team you put her on.
You are paying. You need to decide what it is you want to buy and then choose accordingly. IF you think your child will thrive in an environment of competing for a spot every practice then look for that. If your child needs more space to make mistakes and develop, then seek that. Players are individuals and will respond differently to the same situation. Seek the best match you can find - none will be perfect.
What does for non-profit have to do with it? Have you ever seen what some executives make who work at non for profit organizations? Your head will spin. Go look up the USTA. Millions in salaries.
Here's a personal story as an example of the last post...So my oldest daughter played for a team that was fully funded and we paid nothing. She chose to do this for 2 years, knowing what came with this opportunity. At every training session, there were outside girls who showed up and had the same shot at taking over another player's position. Yes the stress level was elevated bc of this but this was a huge turning point in her growth as a player but also as a human being. She is now enjoying a great school and soccer team and looking forward to the future. Nobody could ever argue for losing a place bc it came with the territory. My daughter finally lost her spot but had already committed.So if you choose to pay...pay but beware and remember you should be in control. If you pay little, great but there comes a price with this.
Fully funded girls soccer is so rare as to be basically non existent. Girls soccer is pay to play. 99.99% of all players have to budget some money to play and then decide where to spend it.
@9:23 I hear that team now has fees..assuming you are referring to PA Strikers?
heres a real joke. match fit does not allow any outside training from the club. That is unless you are a special a gamer... you can post your circus act on social media and promote agame.... then as a special reward you can play up with the 02 team... other families have been told they are not allowed to do outside training but I guess that just depends on who you are... funny how the post was up one day and gone the next.... big deal they didn't make that much of a difference they lost on Saturday... ... and the agame parents group together like no one else on the team exists. They clearly think they are above everyone else and it is rubbing off on their children....soccer is a team sport and unless they start to act like a team they will continue to lose. Hell if I was the bucs coach I'd be plotting my strategy.
You shouldn't accept any club telling your daughter she can't train anywhere else at this age. Move one now...GDA is only entity with such rules and you know them up front
GDA does not allow external competition without written permission. Nothing about training
@April 25, 2017 at 8:22 AMFYI MFA is not a non-profit, that status was revoked for non-compliance several years ago, beware where you put your money.https://www.guidestar.org/profile/32-0024296Furthermore, non-profit status does not mean individual employees do not make money, it means that the corporation itself can not generate a profit that is not essentially funneled back in. Individual employees draw salaries, some are hefty.
Who owns Match Fit and does ECNL care about member club ethics
Non-profit means little except tax status, just do not assume that club owners are doing this for the love of soccer only
That's a good question @2:44. The ecnl should be made aware of mfa's unethical business dealings. One or two or three new players in spring, sure, we can deal. 11 new players in spring is wrong on so many levels. Ecnl and us soccer need to have policies in place to protect the teams and players.
If you are on a payment plan and are unhappy don't make the payment until the address the situation.
ECNL teams are allowed to roster 30 players. They do not have to guarantee play time. Very sad. No wonder GDA is going to take over as the elite league. There are play time requirements for all rostered GDA players.
I have a question and hopefully someone can be serious and answer it for me. Has anyone ever asked or saw a breakdown of how much their childs coach gets paid Per a game and how much they get paid per a practice? I know some clubs do that. I was just curious if anyone knew what matchfit, PDA's, SJeb/rush etc....is. It's good to know if you don't know.
Rostering 30 players. What a joke and a scam. How could that possibly be good for player development. Plus the fact when you come out of a game in a half you can't go back in. Another insane rule when paying all that money. The last thing this seems like is player development.
I heard NJ Stallions had some MF players attend. Stallions have their new coach onboard
If you are referring to the Aresenal Maximus team offers have already been extended to some players. No idea if they are from MF.
nonprofit - that's a joke. all you do is write a check to the two owners for whatever might be the profits, and guess what, you have non-profits.30 on a roster. - that something is permitted doesn't mean it should happen. i can only imagine the in-fighting that exists when every practice is a tryout. some players might like that, but when they grow up untrusting of your teammates, wanting to undercut them rather than support them, you have issues. on the national team, its understood. the girls have their club teams, love one another, and then go off to national camp where its understood every camp is a tryout to make the game-day, tournament squad. and there are mature, experienced individuals there to make it happen and its not exactly pay to play, but maybe just pay for misc expenses. At the club level, its a joke.
There is nothing wrong with some MFA girls going elsewhere. If it is not what they desire, they are wished nothing but success where ever they may play. For many, MFA is a great situation, it just comes with certain conditions and issues.
@5:01100% agree. This is the exact situation at mfa. Every practice is a tryout for the games but now it is basically a tryout to see if you even make that weeks training roster with the ecnl. If not, you get to train with the npl team, and let's face it, they suck. @5:03There will never be a great situation at mfa. You can try to convince yourself of that, but perhaps you are JR or DB. They will not win a game and be successful because the club has made this team so incredibly cut throat. The girls do not support one another and work as a single unit on the field. They are all secretly relieved when someone gets injured in hopes that they will play more. I blame mfa coaches for this. It's almost painful to watch. I get it for the collegiate and onward teams but for a bunch of 13/14 year olds, it is shameful!
The only playing time requirement I am aware of for the GDA is that each girl starts 25% of the games. With only 3 subs allowed per game, 8 girls will be playing 100% of each match, those are going to be your teams star players. They aren't going to sit so "everyone has a chance" It is likely for the other 12-15 girls those 1 in 4 starts required by the GDA will be the only minutes they see. Talk to someone with a son in the DA. It's all about winning, and if some kids only play in 1 match per month so be it. Going to be a shock to a lot of people. Well at least the girls will still get to play games with their high school team. Oh wait...
@5:03 certain conditions and issues? like the ego on JR and DB? that you can't talk to ecnl director JR because he is taking a timeout in a white room? can't talk to A license 3 time all-american DB because he is busy with his meatball parm or trying to write an email he will never send? or the good coaches are treated so bad they leave and then the club makes it appear like they were fired? Maybe the issue is that they take thousands of dollars, make alot of promises and then tell your daughter she is off the team right before she is headed to a showcase so they can take players that were trained outside the club while you paid extra for mfa training? Match Fit is a great situation if you accept certain conditions and issues? @8:33 said it best "mfa has guaranteed nothing" and they delivered nothing.
my daughter's club, WCFC, is a not for profit and has invested over 7 million $ back into the facilities. I was just told they will be turfing the last 2 remaining grass fields this summer. Say what you want about them, but that is how you run a not for profit. It is the only club we have been at where we see the people who run the club at every practice and home game. I see a lot of complaining on this site about clubs, but as parents you have to know what you're getting your kids into. Research potential clubs. Check out facilities. Go to games and observe practices. Our choice for WC came after we attended a few ECNL matches there and saw all the administrative staff, from both the girls and boys DOC, to the food stand guy, all interacting with the players. The players at WC all looked like that Complex was their home. You can find great trainers anywhere. Find a place where you know they will take care of your kid, both as a player and as a person.I'm sure this will bring on a bunch of nasty comments, but in the end, you know what is right for your kid. If being on a roster of 30 and having to fight for a chance to play 5 minutes is what you want, great. That might be what motivates her and she may thrive in that world. I'm not knocking that.
@6:40Wow! That just about sums it up! Perfect post
@9:10Good stuff! Agreed
@ 6:06 - I totally agree and wish others in our area would see that as well. I realize 99% of the posters on here are from NJ, but the rest of the states in R1 have similar issues. The GDA is being shoved down everyone's throats in our area and I just can't bite. My daughter is better off playing for a respected coach, with skilled players who aren't interested in sitting the bench for a GDA team.
6:06 is absolutely incorrect. What you may be thinking of is the 3 Subbing moments. For the 2 younger age groups they are permitted to sub up to 7 players. For the 2 older groups they are permitted to sub up to 5 players. The limited "subbing moments" allow the game to be played without constant interruptions. Most clubs in the boys DA only travel with 16 players in the older groups so that everyone who travels plays. It isn't for everyone, but it will knock ECNL as the top dog with the next 2 years.
Matchfit keeps sliding lower is the youth soccer rankings. Now 10th in NJ. How pathetic for an ECNL team.
Just because you have ECNL status doesn't mean it translates into wins and development. You still have to prove it on the pitch. There are plenty of good players who will play in college that don't play in ECNL. And there are plenty of non-ecnl clubs that compete with and beat ecnl teams. It's about the culture the club creates and fosters that matters.
My understanding is that the GDA will follow FIFA rules, three subs, not three "subbing moments". Never heard of that, but please post a link to where you read that. And you are wrong about the boys DA, boys travel with teams all the time and don't get a single minute on the field. Even the 25% starting "requirement" isn't really followed.
K. Technical Framework: 1. Game Length: All U-12 games will be two 30-minute halves with a ten-minute half time. All U-13 games will be two 35-minute halves with a ten-minute half time. All U-14 and U-15/16 games will be two 40-minute halves with 15-minute half time. All U-17/18 Academy Games will be two 45-minute halves with a 15-minute half time.2. Substitutions: All U-15/16 and U-17/18 Academy games will have a maximum of five (5)from page 15 here: https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/ddh3x0fztgwufv8x1bc3dep1i97t0q5h16substitutions per game with no re-entry across three “opportunities”. U-13, U-14 Academy games will have a maximum of seven (7) substitutions per game with no re-entry across three “opportunities”. The U-12 Academy games will have unlimited substitutions with re-entry.3. Substitutions are allowed at any stoppage. Games shall follow the Technical Frameworkprovided for at the beginning of each Academy season in the Game Day Guide.
From the DA Application found at: http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-academy-applicationRules of Competition• Substitution rules: no re-entry; seven substitutions across three “opportunities” for U-14/15; five substitutions across three “opportunities” for U-16/17 and U-18/19
SO, 16 players get to play each game (assuming coach uses all subs allowed)...but these 5 subs are only allowed 3 times during the game. Correct?How many on the roster? Sounds like nearly half the girls will train and barely play.
What is the 'opportunity' - not getting the full visual?
Substitutions are allowed at any stoppage, but can only be made three times during the game.
NYCFC has said they will only take 18 on their rosters at the 04,03 and 02/01 teams. They may take more on their older team as seniors tend to have many HS events in their last year of school. We sat in on an information meeting and they said they want all their kids to play.
Wow. I just saw 4 nutmegs and 5 scissor moves in the MC/MU game. Haha. Fake news. #wastedenergy #notwhatcollegecoacheswanttosee #assgame
So in order to stay on track - what are the tryout dates coming up in the next week or so?
What club(s) are you referring to 4:09pm?
Any really - NPL, ECNL, GDA
I'm so confused, we've taken my daughter to 2 ECNL tryouts and a GDA tryout. Of course she wants it, whether she's good enough is up to the coaches, but my husband is ready to blow his lid. I'll do most of the driving but this means my very youngest won't have me at too many games, and hopefully they schedule his practices for late evenings so Mike can drive him. The cost is a lot only a couple grand more than my current club team. My husband joked that this is becoming more like gymnastics and ice skating by the minute. The one club was pitching me hard but when i asked a few simple questions like how many on the roster and what kind of play minutes could she expect, I could not get a straight answer. My husband says they could care less about quality and you can just see the dollar signs ringing in their eyes. Having read the posts up here, it almost seems like its more the norm , then the exception. Do PDA parents, once you're settled in, and if you daughters are middle of the road, feel like it made sense? Would you have gone a different route if you could? And for those MFA parents who chime in up here, is your disappointment with playtime, or the monies?
Go in eyes wide open. Hard to predict all with the unknown of the DA. IMO, the talent level between the DA and ECNL will be comparable at least during the early years of the DA. In the end, the DA will be harder on kids and families because the mission is clear and that serves very few kids. ECNL mission not as clear, but widely looked at as being in biz to get kids into D1 college. On paper, you now have 4 elite teams in state and not 2. My guess is the is the toughest teams to make will be as follows:1. Sky Blue/PDA DA2. PDA ECNL3. Cedar Stars DA4. MFA ECNLHit all 4 and see where your offers are. If you live close to any that offer, consider that one strongly. Not having to drive great distance makes things easier on player and parent. Remember DA will be 4X a week, ECNL is 2X.
ECNL is supposed to be 3x a week, with 2 games on the weekends. GDA is 4x a week with 1 game on the weekend.
Is pda da at 2003 requiring no high school play?
Both PDA and MFA train as teams 2X a week. ECNL generally plays on Sat/Sun with a week off to limit travel. Teams are paired and they travel together. This year WC and PDA are paired and Continental and MFA are paired. Could be different as clubs are changing. Breakers and flash out, Bethesda and another Maryland team in.
With MFA being 10th in NJ - how do you make them #4. Only slightly better at current U15Even if you are an amazing player- it is still a difficult prospect to swallow. Less training with very mixed quality teammates, and being ignored at showcases.
Nice turnout at the NYCFC DA 2003 tryouts. Noticed a lot of backpacks from Clarkstown and some from various Connecticut clubs.
4:03, People here are trying to figure out the best place to move their good/elite players for U15-U18/U19. Nobody here is trying out for a current U14 team. You only want to move once. Even with the move north and the age change the MFA U16-U18/19 teams are at worst the number two teams in the state. I don't care about rankings, I know the U15 team is a top 5 team. As of what we know now, there will be 4 elite teams in the state going forward. You ask how does the MFA U14 team improve so much? They add a few players the next 2 years, that's all it takes. The only thing nobody knows is how much the DA changes things. Will MFA go from #2 to number #4?
Current older MFA teams have been top notch since U12. Current U13, U14 and U15 are nowhere close to be able to attract same amount of talent. Just talk to the parents, see how many are on the move. Best summarized by your own words how you can cherry pick rankings:>>> [...] number two on the state. I don't care about your rankings.
April 29, 2017 at 9:34 AM You be sick in the head.The better question, who the heck cares!!!? 2, 4, 10, 20!? ALl great numbers, all that matters is whether you little kid can play or not. The wins losses and rankings are just you and your overblown egotistical maniacal personality. Let your significant other work with your daughter, hopefully she doesn't develop in your image.
MFA loses 3-6 to World Class. I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this point. Cant wait for 5-1 so my daughter can check out other teams. For all you new families that came on board....you drank the kool aid.
Any scores today? How did MF do? Did DV's squad make a difference in the game? Scores aren't posted yet
seriously @ 7:07.The answer is in the post right above yours.
7:17. So Sorry. Definitely did not see that post. Much worse than I thought it would be. Oh well, I guess all those Step overs will only get you so far
His parents will realize all those scissors and drags and whatever else he posts in those silly videos are Freestyle, catching balls on your neck or between your legs. They can make a lot of money doing that, lots of them out there, and they would be great stunt actresses in the pele and other soccer movies. But on the pitch, its way more than that. 6-3to WC? YIKES!! 911, maybe if you enroll 30 more, you'll find 12 or 13 decent ones1!! #PATHETI!!#THEGRASSAINTGREENERRIDINGTHEBENCH
You ignorami know that 3 of the original four that were coming to mfa are playing on the 02 team that lost 1-0 in a close and hard fought match right?
@8:56You are an ass. Those three have played with us in league games and In Arizona and we still lost. The 02's are a stronger team then ours so their good results are not bc you three played up, don't get it twisted. They are, ultimately, still part of the 03's and they will be back with us and I am sure we will still lose. You can Try to convince yourself otherwise but facts are facts! You will eventually hate mfa and next year you will be looking to wc or cedar Stars.
World Class had better athletes. Does not help MFA that it's 2 best athletes are hurt and they have a few kids with the 2002s. The kids who played today other than a couple, are not top of the rotation ECNL type players. MFA needs to add some talented athletes to its 2003 group. They have 5 or 6 nice players, they need 5 or 6 more from outside IMO. BTW, the MFA U15s lost 1-0, 16, 17, 18 all won. U13 Pre-ECNL also won. Club seems to be doing ok outside of this group.
What are good clubs to go to in north/central NJ if your daughter will be a U15 in the fall. (Besides WC,NYCFC,MF & PDA) ?
u13 pre-ECNL lost to WC 3-1. Sorry.
looks like MF is graduating out all it's talent in the next 2 years
North NjCedar StarsSDFCArsenal (Stallions)You probably have 1 week to get to a practice - tryouts already happened. All should compete at PDA ECNL level. Plus they have 1 practice a week more and 2 more tourneys on schedule
April 29, 2017 at 9:22 PM - Why do you need to lie? Did you think the U13 Pre-ECNL score would not be published. You were informed about the Average Gamers. Its a circus act. All flash and no substance. Average-Game the Harlem Globetrotters of girls soccer. They are complimentary players not difference makers. Nothing wrong with that. MF was sold a package deal except the player they wanted pulled out and then were stuck with the others. FACT
LOL. You are a freak. Someone gave me the score wrong or I misunderstood it. Only you care enough to be bothered. Take a day off and go fishing or something.
Match Fit JR and DB can't see talent unless it is on the other team. 9:22 is JR or DB from Match Fit, saying when the club loses it is that the players aren't talented athletes but truth is the club training is low level. Were they talented athletes when you took their check at tryout? These guys are burnt out and have no interest in players or the game. JR and DB recruit from the parking lot, collect checks and pretend they have college connections. Any real coach or competent director would understand team culture and not completely blow it up mid-season. These guys are easily distracted by shiny objects because they are hacks. True development is not bait and switch. True development is picking a team at tryouts and then making them better players with quality training and building team chemistry because that is what makes a WINNING team. It is sad to see men getting older, frustrated by the loss of their playing days and needing to make a living taking advantage of girls who love soccer. So much wrong in this situation. ECNL has to evaluate and not only make rules to protect girls but consider adding more clubs. ECNL wants players to be "unshakable" but for that to happen they can't allow grown men to treat talented young women like a commodity.
@8:09Mic Drop lolDo us all a favor and be our advocate. Contact ecnl and tell them everything that has gone on. They should know what a scam JR and DB are. Their lack of ethical business morals is astounding.
I agree wholeheartedly with @8.09 with one caveat. The comments above couldn't be DB and JR - they don't even turn up to watch the games to be able to comment on what is going on. It's a shame, as the teams main coach was actually making slow and steady progress with the team - not sure how much of a say she has around the comings and goings behind the scenes. I feel for her - making the best of a bad situation and having her name tied to it.
@9:23 that is the best part DB and JR don't have to show up to know anything because it is all about the bank account not soccer. CW has no power but welcome to being a Match Fit staff coach, treated no better than the parents or players told to just put up and shut up.
This can't be JR and DB because they are coaching a game right now. Circle back next year and let everyone in youth soccer know how much it's better for you in your new home. Can't wait to see where everyone ends up. BTW, as you know PDA ECNL and DA tryouts are this week. Let us know when you get your offers. Personally, I will be happy for your kid and wish them well. Same as if you reverse course or end up at some other club. Good luck!
2:21 - onward and upward!I congratulate anyone who will stay sane!
Yay! Tomorrow is May 1st!!!
MF is 0-7-1 since Average-Gamers joined the program. To quote a past post from DV - "They will make your team better and the other players around them better". Ha. Don't worry I'm sure he will be posting videos of them tomorrow doing bicycle kicks, 5,000 step overs and sprinkle in a few nutmegs. The circus act continues. How's that team bonding going? #losingculture, #notwinningsoccer, #harlemglobetrotters.
MFA lost 4-0 today what a joke! funny some people arent going to other tryouts because there afraid to get in trouble.
real coaches teach how to win, how to compete, attack balls in the air, attack the play, be direct. Agames technical skills teaching has some value, but its not anywhere near the crux of the game. The question i would ask is for any coach, what are the the credentials and experience to teach the game at the highest level. All these junior club coaches who thinks they are hot crap but the next level coaches played at that next level or study that next level. how could a coach without experience playing or coaching at the highest level know what it takes to get to that high level. There is a reason the best med and law schools are the best. they have the best most experienced educators, not the hot shot self grandizing professors who have no experience in the operating room saving real lives.
Well put. Keep drinking the AGade while he takes your money. #fraud
>> The question i would ask is for any coach, what are the the credentials and experience to teach the game at the highest level.USSF ’National F’ License or higher
Not just about training. Compare the work schedule (on paper):-ECNL clubs train 2x a week and play 40 games-non ECNL clubs train 3x a week and play 60 gamesObviously the premise is that the competition and training is more intense and at higher level w/ ECNL. But even on paper - non ECNL kid has a chance to play 50% more soccer under comparable guidance - I dont know if non ECNL kids are also likely to participate in external programs such as ODP - who knows. If you good enough to play in a top team that gets to play in high quality leagues/cups/tournaments - the "intensity" gap quickly shrinks as well.
Not sure what ECNL clubs you are talking about, but WC trains 3x's a week. The team has done many outside tournaments and scrimmages other clubs on weekends when they are not playing in leagues. In addition, because all teams train at the same complex, they can scrimmage any other WC team they want. Our players do not do ODP but a few participate in the US Soccer NTC's which is cost free. I have seen on here someone else said ousting that ECNL teams only train 2x a week, but that has to be incorrect as ECNL mandates 3 training sessions a week
@7:38 All you want to do is criticize and spew your hate. You have no idea. All the MF teams at these age groups are a little disjointed and have many new payers (partially due to US soccer's stupidity of not grandfathering in older players with the new age criteria). Teams with a lot of new players need time to mesh. But don't worry, both teams you are referring to will get their act together and start to win. Many girls read this blog and you need to refrain from saying some of the things you say. You can criticize the parents all you want (trust me it only makes us laugh) but don't you dare talk about kids here when it is easy to figure out who you are talking about. There are some wonderful kids on these teams as well as parents. Grow up and worry about your own athlete. Shame on you!
Match Fit U16-18 looked very well trained yesterday.
You are wrong. I am a MF parent. There is zero chemistry. Start winning? Are you nuts. Why are there so many new players mid year? Why is our roster close to 30? You want to talk about the kids and be their advocate? They are he ones who have been manipulated by ego maniacs who are frauds and have Zero credentials and credibility. They are being taught the worst life lessons. Keep distorting the truth to make yourself feel better.
Happy May 1st!
@9:40Please, don't blame mf's issues on the birth year change!! Every club had to deal with that and wc and pda have managed just fine. As well as other non ecnl clubs. That excuse is a cop out. Mfa's dirty dealings is what is affecting this team. As far as players reading this blog, I agree that we all need to be careful with what we say but I don't get how these kids would even know about this blog unless their parent told them. when it comes to the mass exodus of the crush players, maybe they should read that what their parents are teaching them is wrong. Loyalty and commitment are values needed to make it in the world. Screwing over your team instead of finishing out just a few extra months is not going to garner any respect. So glad we left mfa a couple of years ago.
MF = May First?I like it
Wow, what a bunch of crybabies on here. Everyone needs to suck it up and move on. Here is the hashtag I have for you #boring #parentswhoarewaytooinvolvedinyouthsoccer #angry #youarecluelessaboutfutbolDid I miss any?????? LMAO!
yep#worryaboutyourownkid#chillout#exploreotheroptionsandmoveon#onedoorclosesandanotheropens#keepthefaith#knowyourdaghtersultimategoal#itsaboutmakingsomefriendsforlife#appreciateallteamsI could go on.....
#hashtagslow day here I guess
This blog name needs to be changed to Matchfits children. Who the hell needs tv after reading this blog. At the end of the day Matchfit wins. They took all the money included half season tuition for the 10 or so girls. I agree with a new team there will be bumps and they had a bad start. Right before the end of fall they were pulling it together and started to gel. Coach has no say in anything and is just a puppet to Jr. Mid season pick up 10 new girls and still adding. And now jr is all into the team. Original girls no longer meet their ecnl requirements... Spring season. New girls added no difference oh I'm sorry yes they are now worse. Kept world class to a zero zero in the falll. And lost 1 to 0 to pda. Now they get beat by those same teams. And the special ones got moved up to 2002 They beat west Seneca and lost to world class and PDA. Nothing special there either.i feel sorry for the coach because she tried to make a difference and at least these girls had respect for each other in the fall. Not the case any longer they bicker and fight and disrespect each other. . There are many talented players on that club that could easily play for world class or pda. If the parents choose to deal with this crap and don't take advantage of other options then deal with it. the season finale of Matchfits children will air in early June when everyone decides what they will be doing next year. There are options out there. Take them and move on... or actually fool yourself into thinking it will be better next year....
So, what exactly is the issue with special ones that everyone seems to be upset about if they dont actively participate? Totally puzzled. What happened to the team that gelled at the end of 2016?11:18 - Happy May 1st right back!
Dont drink the DA & ecnl juice. There are other avenues to play at a high level.
If emre can, anyone can too!
After DA kicks off their season, ECNL will be the only other place to play. I've been hearing from players signing with the DA teams. The top talent is going there, either with PDA or NYCFC. Haven't heard anyone signing with Cedar Stars yet.
Our coach says DA will be a disaster for the next few years. Better to stay and wait it out.
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