"Ione Fetsko match fit playing year upBryana Pizarro east meadow rostered up at u15Briana Sayoc east meadow playing a year up on u14 national team Hannah Blodget PDA Those are the players to watch !!!!!!"Blodget is on PDA U12 Lyon. That team has run roughshod over damn good teams in EDP U13 Girls 1st Division Central.
Penn Fusion is playing the player in question in the midfield. Often up a year also as they do with most of their nats. She is listed as a defender for the u14 GNT because that is the position the USSF coach (April Kater)_ sees her fitting in right now. Penn Fusion is not playing her as a defender. She is an outstanding player who does not rely on early puberty, but instead skills to carry her through. She has a very high ceiling. Not her parent. Have known the family for some time though.
Im calling bs on it not being a parent. But to be fair the ussf uses one formation with three interior mids so wing players need to move forward or backwards depending on the skill set. My kid had to play out of position at a recent camp.
It's clear what's going on here with the PF dad and his agenda- he needs to chill out. No amount of video editing, smear campaigns on perceived competition for his kid or blog posting about her will help her. She will succeed or not all on her own. Relax. I doubt EM03 dad reads this crap let alone posts but someone should let him know about his frenemy.
By U17 none of these kids are in NT pool
you'll keep hating though
I would suggest we try to keep the names of kids off the blog. Especially children of this age. Not fair to them and makes you look like a freak IMO. Every single person here is passionate about youth soccer and a little nuts just for being here, but that IMO crosses a line.
Like many have said there are many other players at PDA, MF, East Meadow Etc. that were called up and some even on the roster on the U16 NT. People forget as a 2002 your lobbying for a U16 roster spot for USSF as it is an even year. 2003 will move into the U15 roster come next year. Sometimes it's a timing thing on year to be recognizedFunny all the talk of PF team but not many of other players called it could be a few people just obsessed.
This sport needs good underdog story to emerge. We need a 5000 -1 shot to get a chance the top. US soccer should find this story just for the inspiration factor.Not taking anything away form any of these players but it is getting depressing that no kids out of the country cub every get a chance. This sport need a Leicester fox story to inspire all the players cut out of the insider club.
1022 yes agree there is no rags to riches story like football or basketball in the U.S. have. Maybe with the DA coming it will happen. All these high price pay to play clubs that just wants to cash in for profit is getting out of hand.
A majority of the rosters are already set, so not sure what a smear campaign would do at this point.To back up 9:57's claims on May 15th, here are PF W/L records for their '02 teams.Pre-ECNL2015 games : 7W-2L-2D2016 games : 4-3-2 (one game left against FC Stars)NPL2015 : 5-72016 : 0-7-2
Look, the DA has a FAQ about costs where they talk about free soccer balls and Powerade drink for the players. Don't think the DA is going to expand the player pool very much with that. Soccer balls and sports drinks are not the problem. The scholarship may reach some, but can be a humiliation and I think income must be very low to qualify.
Now that DA applications are open does anyone know which clubs in the area will be submitting or has submitted applications? I think applications close in a few months.
@10:50 obviously they are winning less because their nat isn't playing with them.
1050 and 1138 does it really matter the team will be re-vamped for next year as many others will also be so why all talk about PF now? Many teams are packing up the season already to get prepared for next. Only those that have advance in NPL playoffs and Region 1 championships are still playing for a meaning. Even upcoming tournaments will be meaningless as well.
GDA will not be free. Cost stays high.GDA will have rosters of 24-28 players.Substitutions are at 6 a game with no re-entry.Although there will be claims of development, clubs that get GDA in the tri-state area will all play to win, and because of that, kids will sit and sit and sit.College recruitment has always been the driving force behind ECNL. The GDA will cause exposure to college coaches to become greatly reduced. Not for top players, but for all the rest.The GDA will be structured for the small amount of top players, but without the other players to play with or against, the GDA will become watered down. This is not to mention having to make a choice between HS soccer or GDA.GDA will be the biggest boost to girls lax and basketball.
IF the cost were not so prohibitive, it could be a very different sort of program. But that does not look to be in the cards.
This PF Dad is one of the most annoying and arrogant posters I've seen on here in awhile . Stop talking about your kid . Many players mentioned above are as good and even much better . Stop trying to relive your youth thru her and get a life . No wonder you are not well liked at your club .
everyone has been duped:"658 Bucks won because there was no disruption of a parent they probably would of won game in the fall as well."one hour after this post ^^^^ the guy make a post referring to the PF national team player by name. It was an obvious deflection away from himself and everyone has fallen for it. Great move on his part don't you think?
Is it difficult to figure out who would post a player's name? Would anyone but a parent ever do that?
Why would a parent who's child has been systematically attacked on this board randomly post her name months after the camp? Especially knowing she's been systematically attacked in the past? The answer is he didn't. An ex FC Bucks parent who was about to be attacked threw red meat out to this board of fools to deflect attention away from himself. It was a calculated maneuver on his part that you fools have taken hook line and sinker. Also hearing he has moved over to Continental and joined the stalker that was on a rant about the National team player a few months ago - when the original NT press release came out. Haters gonna hate and now they've joined forces at Continental.
makes perfect sense to me - wow, people are evil!!!57 minutes after this was posted:"658 Bucks won because there was no disruption of a parent they probably would of won game in the fall as well."This gets posted completely out of the blue:"According to u14 National Training Camp. Kylie Daigle originally from SJEB, now Penn Fusion is positioned as Defender ? She has been midfield as a soccer player. I guess good for her for going to training camp."
It all started because of this posting -- May 15, 2016 at 6:58 PM "So what happened to pf against bucks today? Not expecting to see that result"
Correct, then somebody pointed out they would have won the game in the fall to if it weren't for that dad. Then he threw the national team player under the bus to deflect the conversation away from him
So much hatred in PA soccer, in other news does anyone know how EDP will run the U15 division next year. Will there be a full Fall league or Short Fall league rolled into the Spring?
Heard edp will run full fall season. Not sure how many teams willl play.
Impossible EDP will run a full fall 75%(Jan-Sep) of girls in HS. If they do it will be a waste as 8th graders could better off doing training days.
What are Phila area clubs saying to all about Fall season for 8th graders? Bucks/PDA/Rush/PF... etc. ? Training? Small leagues? Thanks
"Be Humble and Kind" - Tim McGraw
Our team will only have 3-4 8th graders including my daughter for next year's team at U15. The club mentioned training with the younger group and entering multiple tournaments beginning and towards the end of the fall in the NY/North Jersey area. That's what was given to us as the first plan.
Keep it positive.. doesn't do much good to do anything else. Lots of great kids in the area to watch play the beautiful game :)
SDFC Rage #1 in NJ and #1 in Region 1 (if you believe GS).
New Teams age group breakdown question . More u13 or u14's on the 2002 (new u15) Squads out there. Ours is about 70% from u14 group.
I know that it's water under the bridge but the fact that we will now have U15 8th graders should have been reason enough for stopping the implementation of the new age grouping. At least in the old system a U14 9th grader could have chosen to forgo her freshman season and stay with her club. Now the 8th grade U15 has to wait until November to play games? Stupid decision that makes no sense.
@1209 Total Agree! EDP has chosen to have a league for U15's(2002) for Fall. Link - http://www.edpsoccer.com/page/show/2470525-edp-league-faq-16-17
SDFC haven't done any more tournaments than any other top team so I don't get how they are "points whores". They are a good team but I think #1 in NJ and region 1 is not correct.
Has to wait until November to play games is a crisis? No its not. There will be about the same number of total games played over the course of the season. Have your daughter train with u14 boys. Start a speed and agility program. Play on the middle school team if she wants to and it is available. She will probably be ahead of the kids who played high school if she concentrates on high level training. My kid was a July kid that we held back. She was a u15 eighth grader-they did exist before this change- albeit in lower numbers so there was only me to help her to continue her development. She trained with the club u14 team - both boys and girls and was ahead by October when the u15 started training. The ECNL had trapped 8th grader rules then and we thought about switching clubs, but didn't seem worth it for a few months and we were right.
BYC/Club/School is even more complicated in some parts of PA where high school ball is played in the fall and middle school ball is played in the spring. Therefore, a 2002 team will have its 9th graders playing high school ball in the fall and its 8th graders playing middle school ball in the spring, if they chose to do so.
What about the southern states that play HS in the spring like Delaware and Maryland.
Dont blame SDFC for being #1, blame gotsoccer for awarding disproportionate amount of points to NJ teams (EDP league is worth more points because they have a high concentration of teams with high points - very self-fulfilling).Use http://youthsoccerrankings.us/ for something that is 50% more accurate.Gotsoccer predictive power = 44.8YouthSoccerRankings predictive power = 64.1SDFC is very good, #4 in NJ and #9 in Region 1. There are 35 teams within 1 point YSR ranking of SDFC - the competition is great too.
9:31, you should be ashamed of yourself for calling a set of 12 year old girls a bunch of whores. what is wrong with you? are you that sick in the head or lack so little self-control of that gross part of your personality that you can not but make such an offensive comment?SDFC is one of the best teams in the area, they work hard, train hard, and do well. They are not to blame for the insanity of gotsoccer points. They go to tournaments, play their leagues and get results. Dont be so jealous. Many teams out there do more and achieve less. Many clubs are cheap and load up on your monies and don't give you nearly as much. Either way you slice it, calling 12 year old girls a bunch of whores is pretty low even for this crowd.
Not the same guy but think he means the club not the kids. All these british coaches game the system.
Coach. No one used that term in reference to the kids. Go back to exploiting the kids for their parents monies.
"All these British coaches" - nice bit of racism for the forum about youth soccer
British is a race now? Better call the anti-British defamation people.
Racism, Fascism, or just straight up prejudice whatever you won't to call it, 4:28 was basically putting down someone based on their nationality and where they were born. Not something that should be on a youth soccer forum.Administrator please delete 4:28 post.
Settle down! Generalization at the most! Racism? Fascism? Prejudice? OMG! Learn the meaning of the words before using them.
Ok call it nationalism, call to whatever you want. It has no place on here.
Anonymous said..."All these British coaches" - nice bit of racism for the forum about youth soccer That is very likely the dumbest thing ever said on this blog. When you consider how many stupid things have been said, we may truly be in the presence of "greatness". Racism!!! Oh my God. MLK must be rolling over in his grave.
3:42. You sir are the only one attaching that word with the kids. You should be ashamed.
What would you call a derogatory comment based on where someone was born?
Im just confused. He said British coaches game the system. Where is the hatred nationalistic slur in that. Its actually a compliment. What if I said democrats game the system. I dont even think its a negative comment. They do what they need to do .....
Carli Lloyd appearance in Chatham in June? Where's Chatham?!
Around the Region in USYS State Cup play:Delaware - Kirkwood wins the qualifying round with DE Rush second. Kirkwood v. DE Rush in the final on 6/5.Maryland - Bethesda Fury v. Pipeline Black in final. Game schedule pending.Virginia - Semi-finals and finals rained out. Rescheduled to 6/4 and 6/5. Semi-finals: DC Stoddard v. Loudon Red; SYA Cardinals Red v. Beach FC.
Heard FC Maximus dropped out of the Delco Cup.
A question for the Rush parents, and there zero agenda here other than to learn about Rush. Is it a big corporation or something like that? I see NJ, NY, CT, I see a colorado Rush. Is this a corporate thing or are these franchises? Very unique for the soccer industry.
Not a Rush parent, but an intrigued follower of the Rush model. Simply put, Rush is more of an management organization, than a franchise. When the operation of a soccer club becomes too much for local volunteers and parents to handle, the Rush organization can step in and provide professional oversight. As the Rush organization states, it is based in Littleton, Colorado, as a 501 (c) (3) non-profit organization established to provide a personal growth experience through the game of soccer and to promote life-long participation in the sport. Formed in 1997 through a merger of two local clubs, Club Columbine (est. 1974) and Lakewood United Soccer Club (est. 1982), Rush now services over 32,000 nationally and another 6,000 internationally on an annual basis. Delaware Rush was formally the Hockessin Soccer Club, and although it now operates through the Rush organization, it retains a local board of directors.
More USYS State Cup semi-finals and finals, all scheduled for weekend of 6/4-5:MA:South Shore Select v. Vipers FCAbbey Villa v. FCUSA ImpactPAW:North United v. PA CrewNorthern Steel v. Beadling EliteNYE:Staten Island United v. Levittown WildcatsNote: If South Shore and North United win their respective cups, then SDFC will receive a wildcard bid to the Region 1 Championships as a semi-finalist in the Region 1 Champions League. SDFC may also receive the wildcard even if North United, the other Champions League semi-finalist, does not advance because it has a better goal differential than North United in the Champions League semi-finals. SDFC was supposed to play North United for third place in the Champions League, but that game was canceled because of poor field conditions. If South Shore does not advance (unlikely, but possible), then South Shore takes the Champions League wildcard as the League champion.Despite BYC, these U13 games and the U13 Region 1 Cup games have meaning because they determine National League qualifiers at the U15 level for the 2016-2017 season. South Shore Select (MA), HMMS Impact (PAE), CFJ South Premier (IL), CUP Gold (OHS), Tennessee SC (TN), and Solar Chelsea (TXN) are current U13 teams that have already qualified for the 2016-2017 U15 National League through region league play.
Here is how YSRs predicts the outcome of DELCO Players Cup F1:Bracket A (State)(YSR Rating)(record within bracket this season)SOUTH SHORE SELECT (MA) (33.76) (W-HMMS 1-0 on kicks)HMMS IMPACT (PAE) (33.37) (L-South Shore 0-1, D-Rush Grey 1-1, L- SUSA 0-1, D–Cherry Hill 1-1)SUSA FC LONG ISLAND (NYE) (33.17) (W–HMMS 1-0)NEW JERSEY RUSH GREY (NJ) (32.83) (W–Cherry Hill 2-0, D–HMMS 1-1)CHERRY HILL DESTROYERS (NJ) (32.38) (L–Rush Grey 0-2, D–HMMS 1-1)Bracket BSDFC RAGE (NJ) (33.57) (W-Clarkstown 2-1, W-Clarkstown 3-2)NORTH UNITED (PAW) (33.38)CLARKSTOWN (NYE) (32.61)Bracket C (no record between these teams this season)WAZA FC EAST (MI) (34.83)NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) (34.15)ALBERTSON (NYE) (33.86)There is an odd play-off system. The #1 and #2 teams from Brackets B and C play each other in quarter-final and semi-final rounds for the opportunity to play the #1 team from Bracket A in the final.Quarter-final (no record between opponents this season)NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) (34.15) (C#2 over B#1)SDFC RAGE (NJ) (33.57)WAZA FC EAST (MI) (34.83) (C#1 over B#2)NORTH UNITED (PAW) (33.38)Semi-final (no record between opponents this season)WAZA FC EAST (MI) (34.83)NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) (34.15)Final (no record between opponents this season)WAZA FC EAST (MI) (34.83) - CHAMPIONSOUTH SHORE SELECT (MA) (33.76)
Yes, Rush is a franchise. As with any franchise, the goal is revenue generation, often at the expense of a quality product.
Arsenal Maximus coach is a weiner. So scared about losing points to withdraw from a tournment due to a few kids being injured I guess those are the only good players on the team. Hey Maximus did you every hear of guest players. Such a town team mentality..
3:22pm. Not sure if thats true but it wouldn't surprise me. Ever seen the guy coach on game day in tight games? Barely makes subs, all about winning and then goes crazy if they score.
I thought Rush bought out the Rage club and the owners at the time stepped aside? so was that a new owner that took out a franchise and also then bought out Rage? Where is the value in the franchise, that is what exactly does a Rush franchisee get that they couldn't figure out on their own?
Nobody bought out rage. Some rage teams left and joined rush. Wasn't enough left at rage to sustain the club.
Rage agreed to merge with Rush - http://www.njrush.com/index.php/9-local-sponsors/2-uncategorised/9-news-3
Here are Frequently Asked Questions from when Hockessin joined Rush:Are we controlled and operated by the Rush? No, this is a partnership. The (club) will still operate independently including filing of it’s own taxes, governance by it’s own Board of Directors, hiring of it’s own employees, etc. This venture is a cooperative effort with the purpose to serve to make each organization better. The partnership allows for the clubs to interact and share ideas. Will joining the Rush increase the club costs? Fees are established by your own club. Is there a fee for joining the Rush? Yes, there is a $10,000.00 franchise fee which can be paid through an annual payment plan mutually agreed upon. Once the club is an official partner, there is an annual $4.00 per member fee. Even though the benefits you receive from becoming a member are great, the savings through corporate negotiations and economy of scale outweigh the membership fee considerably. Will there be a change in club philosophy? The club philosophy will stay the same and the focus will remain on individual player development. Our philosophy in the past is very similar to the Rush development philosophy. It provides us with the opportunity to further the communication and education of that philosophy through organizational credos and operating standards. How will this impact the colors of the club? The club colors will be blue and white. Uniforms will be black and grey (boys) and blue and grey (girls) Do we keep the same club model or will it change to the model of the Colorado Rush? Clubs may adopt as many of the programs and services as they wish. Clubs are not mandated to do anything. Your current programs you have in place can remain and new ones can be added. Will our recreation program change? No, this will only serve to make our recreational program stronger. Through the exchange of intellectual property, we will enable ourselves to develop and adopt programs and ideas to better serve this branch of the club. Is there expected growth to the club by joining the Rush? The potential is always there, and should be anticipated. Nearly all of our previous partners have experienced an increase in membership enrollment. Many have even partnered or absorbed other clubs in and around there own community through the process. How will this benefit the individual player? The possibilities are almost limitless for the individual player. With options, this partnership can afford the players such as select teams and guest playing from all the Rush partners. Information concerning player development issues can be shared and coaches and players alike will now have a resource to share ideas to further their development. Will the tryout process be the same as it was before? The club will continue it’s normal tryout format. Any changes will be decided by the clubs management team. Our goal long term is to eliminate tryouts for player already enrolled in the club. What, if any, obligations does the club have to comply with? Two things: 1) We expect our partners to transition into Nike through Eurosport. Teams transition at their own accord and under the supervision of their own club; and, 2) The Rush also expect effort. Effort to becoming the best soccer club they can be. The Rush expect the club to uphold the Rush brand in a positive image.
So team pulling out of delco brings up some good points. Pun intended. I am starting to wonder what the purpose is of these tournaments at this age. Yes showcases make sense. But what is the purpose of them at u13. Bragging rights and points seem to me to be the reason you do these things. Does it test the best soccer team? Probably not. That can be done better in a singular game. Does it test fitness. Yes. 4 games in two days is a lot about fitness and health. Depth yes. I think the teams with 19 healthy fit players have a big advantage in these things. Its certainly a great venue to gain points. But are these events helpful in the development of our youth soccer talent. Im just not sure. I would love to hear counter arguments.
10:52- US Soccer training centers do send coaches to these types of tournments. Whever or not they actually look at this specific age group is unknown but if they do it will be in the Champions bracket.I agree that alot of the tournaments are just about getting points and trying to be on the leader board as the top team. But do disagree on the development. Playing the actual games is very helpful in using your tactical skills. It helps to home skills in identifying others weaknesses and strengths Unfortunately as with most of the tournments you keep playing some of the same teams over and over so that seems pointless. Why travel all the way to another state to play teams that are within your local driving area with no hotel fees is still a bill annoying. If a team drops out of a tournment due to injuries then in my opinion that team is all about winning and points. Many teams have to get guest players to attend these tournments to fill in for some missing players.
How do you lose points by losing at a tournament? Is there some ante up thing going on with points. I find points incredibly confusing beyond the stupidity of them. Is there a document the tournaments offer which lays out the points on offer or what you would put at risk by playing and losing? I tried to read some of the gotsoccer help files and it hurt my brain.
The euro trainers that I respect do not hold in high regard the American tournament formats. 4 or 5 games in 2 or 3 days is just wrong for the game and the kids. Injuries, exhausted play. It's great in justifying 1200 buck tournaments and profits. It might be about points. It could be a good time to integrate new players joining for next year. Abroad they will do a 3 day tournament with one game per day. In the older brackets, Delco is 1 game per day which is the right way to do it. Why is it at the older age brackets they get it right but at the younger ages, they miss the market miserably? If the director told you that you only could play 1 game per day, would your teams go register for different events? They feel they have to offer more, and in the end, its a disservice to the sport and the kids.
Tournaments are massive cash register machines. The Clubs do it for the love of the game but absolutely want to fill their pockets.
Tournament should be used for the purpose of getting ALL players lots of playing time. Not narrowing it down to the top 13. Typically rostering 18 players allows teams to withstand a few injuries and field a team. This is supposed to be about development and it is important for players to be exposed to other positions they may not play during the season to become more well rounded players. that is the best use of tournament time. Some teams just focus on winning and won't risk reputation in lieu of doing the right thing by the players that have committed to them. Guest players work well, but some are rogue teams without club depth and bringing in other players. And there is always the problem of players not wanting to play once they have been cut. That is their loss but understood.
There is no problem with the current tournament format. The problem is playing in too many tournaments or not taking a rest week after. Playing multiple games in a short period of team provides an opportunity to re-enforce what's been taught and learned in training.
Just looked at the scheduling for FC Delco. It looks like a team dropped out of the Champsionship Division. Bracket A Winner HMMS Impact. Bracket B Clarkstown Bracket C Waza FC.
@8:29 - Look at the data that was posted above on the DELCO Champ Div. I agree with your Waza pick, but must respectfully disagree with your other picks. Unless you are gambling on a "it's their time" philosophy, HMMS is 0-2-2 against its bracket this season and SDFC is 2-0 against Clarkstown this season. HMMS might win its bracket, but South Shore has the upper hand. There is no way that Clarkstown advances. SDFC has been finishing the season strong.
@930 Thanks sdfc parent or maybe coach!
North United most skilled team in that division. Waza will play sdfc and rush blue will play north united in qtr. waza rush blue semi. Waza South shore final. Clarkstown Susa go winless.
@11:32 - Not a SDFC parent or coach, just calling it like I see it. Since March, SDFC is 16-3-1 with a 5-1 win over SUSA, 3-1 win over Clarkstown, and 4-1 win over Cherry Hill. The three losses are one goal losses to HMMS, Arsenal, and Wilmington Hammerheads. The draw was 0-0 against Rush Grey. Not too shabby.
Not too shabby? Name a strong team that sdfc beat this season?
They are really goid at beating the piss out of bad teams. Which is one of the flaws with the ysr ranking model. It over values excess goals.
In 2 days by 5pm on Saturday you'll have your answer. If its an SDFC parent defending your team, go enjoy your success and your top ranking the nation. I think you were in the Semi-finals of the Region 1 Championships. Stop listening to the peanuts in the gallery. The haters on here gonna hate.
SDFC is not the top rank anymore!
Sdfc is a decent team that does not demonstrate much individual skill outside of a couple of girls. Do not think they were homegrown.
Yup! You can't name one.
I think @8:29 on May 26 answers the question about which top team SDFC has beaten, and that is Clarkstown. SDFC and Clarkstown are both GS Diamond level teams with SDFC #2 and Clarkstown #4 in the Region
Using the most recent GS rankings, DELCO should end up like this:Bracket ANEW JERSEY RUSH GREY (NJ) (#6 in Region)SUSA FC LONG ISLAND (NYE) (#9 in Region)SOUTH SHORE SELECT (MA) (#11 in Region)HMMS IMPACT (PAE) (#14 in Region)Bracket BSDFC RAGE (NJ) (#2 in Region)CLARKSTOWN (NYE) (#4 in Region)NORTH UNITED (PAW) (#24 in Region)Bracket CNEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) (#1 in Region, #1 in Nation)ALBERTSON (NYE) (#12 in Region)WAZA FC EAST (MI) (#15 in Region 2, #155 in Nation)Quarter-final (B#1 v. C#2) and (C#1 v. B#2)SDFC RAGE (NJ) (#2 in Region)ALBERTSON (NYE) (#12 in Region)NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) (#1 in Region)CLARKSTOWN (NYE) (#4 in Region)Semi-final NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) (#1 in Region)SDFC RAGE (NJ) (#2 in Region) Final (Semi-Final #1 v. A#1)NEW JERSEY RUSH BLUE (NJ) (#1 in Region) - ChampionNEW JERSEY RUSH GREY (NJ) (#6 in Region)According to GS: Rush Blue, SDFC, and Clarkstown are the three strongest teams; and HMMS, North United, and Waza are the three weakest teams in the division.
@452 you are correct, no individual talent there. US national training centers want individuals not teams.
Got soccer worthless as a predictor Heres my prediction based on what i have seen but have not seen every team and ysr. A: 1. South Shore2. Hmms3. Rush Grey4. Susa5. Cherry HillB:1. North United2. Sdfc3. ClarkstownC: group of death1. Waza2. Rush Blue3. AlbertsonQtr A: north united v rush blueQtr B: waza v sdfcSemi. Rush blue v wazaFinal: south Shore v waza. Waza wins. While i am hopeful rush blue will beat waza to give nj soccer validation Waza is a real deal team. I think hmms and south shore are close to evensdfc could surprise and win that division if north united is not sharp
Cherry Hill, at #21 in the Region, was left out of the GS ranking analysis of DELCO. Cherry Hill should have been included in Bracket A. However, this oversight does not affect the outcome of the analysis, but does affect the list of the three weakest teams. Considering Cherry Hill, the three weakest teams would be Cherry Hill, North United, and Waza according to GS.
@9:16 - I'll take the team player over the little MeMe any day.
I would put the delco teams in the following tiers1. WazaRush Blue2. South ShoreHmms3. AlbertsonNorth United4.Rush grey sdfc5. Cherry hillSusaClarkstown
9:34 Waza is the best team in the tournament. Keep smoking the gotsoccer rankings. Waza will clean up every team with the possible exception of rush blue.
Hard to predict DELCO - a lot may depend on who shows up: end of a long season injuries, players starting to slip away to new teams, guest players, etc. Although, you would think that teams moving on to the Region 1 tournament would be trying to stay together and maintain the style of play that got them there.
Waza team playing is a product of a pool system they will pull from the 5 different teams from the age group. There model is to have multiple teams and tourney's where they will travel a far distance for they pull together best players. They don't chase the GS points like many club teams in our NY/NJ/PA area do. That group of death will be the most interesting games and whom ever comes out of that group will end up in the finals.
It is strange that the NJ Crush NPL squad was not placed in the top flight. They are better than a couple of the teams in the top flight. How do they justify this?
@9:47 you can be a team player and still have skills.
Waza is a great team,but they always use guest players from all over for tournaments.
Last i checked, soccer is a team sport, team before individual, we before I. That maybe is the problem with a lot of teams and clubs, and why the kids are so miserable and parents intolerable. Most kids aren't getting into bed at night longing to be part of Jill Ellis's national team, or even thinking about College soccer,let alone know what college, college soccer let alone high school soccer is about. They just simply want to have fun, get as good as possible, work hard and be there for their teammates.
You dont pay 3k to develop your team you pay 3k to develop your kid.
This is U13? At what age are you proposing they begin to learn how to work with the strenghts and weaknesses on their teams and learn how to exploit the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents? If I am paying 3K a year, it better include this instruction and the team better be ready to learn and execute some more sophisticated strategies.
DELCO -Group A - HMMS on top after day one, but it is still anyone's bracket. Good competition. All games decided by one goal or less.Group B - North United dominating. Wins the group to play Rush Blue, which may be the game of the day tomorrow. SDFC out of it.Group of Death (aka C) - Waza gets by Rush Blue and pounds Albertson. Albertson out of it and will play SDFC in a consolation game. SDFC haters called it right. Waza meets Clarkstown from Group B next. Expect Waza to meet the winner of North United v. Rush Blue in the semi-final.
Seems like rush blue v north united gonna be a better game than anticipated. Still give rush half goal advantage. But would have given 1.5 previously.
DELCO Day Two - Group A (aka the true group of death) – Again all games very competitive and decided by one goal or less. South Shore fights to a draw against both SUSA (0-0) and HMMS (1-1) and goes home. SUSA also plays to a 2-2 draw against Cherry Hill. Rush Grey takes down HMMS 2-1 and then defeats Cherry Hill 4-3 to advance to the final.Quarter-Finals A – The match of the day does not disappoint. Rush Blue and North United play through two overtimes with score knotted at one goal apiece. Rush Blue wins on kicks from the mark.Quarter-Finals B – Waza easily handles Clarkstown 3-0.Semi-Final – It’s almost deja vu all over again for Rush Blue as it takes Waza to kicks from the mark, but in this case it is Waza that is victorious on the kicks.Final on Monday morning – Waza v. Rush Grey.
And Waza prevails 2-1 over Rush Grey. Gotta give a shout out to Grey for defying the posters and taking it all the to the final half.
Rush gonna have a monster 02 team if the combine best 02s from u13 and u14
Rush Blue combined with SJEB at 99-02 age groups - New Club . Rush Grey staying separate and about an hour North. All quite good players.
Here's another view on DELCO. Within group play, Group A had an average goal differential of 0.7 with no match being decided by more than one goal. A very balanced group. Rush Grey advanced out of this group with the same W-D-L record and same goal differential as HMMS, but having more total goals than HMMS. Groups B and C, the two smaller groups, had a combined average goal differential of 2.5 through their semi-final game. There were several blowout games in these two groups, with Albertson Pre-ECNL, Clarkstown, and SDFC taking some beatings from North United and Waza Waza advanced out of this inter-group play on kicks after playing to a draw against Rush Blue in the semi-final. Interestingly, Rush Blue ended play as a semi-finalist with a -1 goal differential. Rush Blue, HMMS, South Shore, North United, and SDFC should all get another chance at each other in the U13 Region I Championship, assuming North United wins PAW next weekend.
9.45 Delco did a good job bracketing F1 and it was great weekend of soccer to watch in my opinion. Well balance brackets and gave lower level teams in F1 bracket B & C an opportunity to play spoiler to move on. Let's get the discussion started if your an 02 moving on to U15 next year which memorial weekend event would you rather be at Delco or PDA's?
PDA had much better quality at U15, including non-ECNL teams, than DELCO did at U15.
Cherry Hill should of been in second flight. They can kick and run to beat weaker teams but clearly can't play vs. top teams. but if you listen to their sidelines it's always the refs fault when they lose.
Looks like gotsoccer for this group now u15
gotsoccer modified the ages on gotsoccer profiles based on the age of the oldest player. so for most thats 2002 thus u15 . once your teams edit the rosters and get rid of the 2002s, you should fall back to u14.
803 is correct it will take about a few months(August) until club's organize players properly for GS to align right. Some club's accross the country are not even finish tryouts yet.
PDA is far more desirable beginning at u15. No question at all. I say this assuming your kid is a high enough level to begin to pique the top tier (top 50 or so RPI, College's interest in 8th grade. And believe me that's when they start tracking kids. You might not even know they are tracking your kid for a year or more, but if she's good, they are.
850 are you serious most these girls are only headed into 8th grade let them enjoy playing the sport. Why talk about college now, 99% of these girls do not even know where to attend or want course to take in college, let alone thinking of playing soccer in college yet. Stop leaving your life through your kid!
8:50. How do you know when they start tracking your kid? Are there any indicatives that they will use to help select like odp pdp etc? How can you make it easy for coaches to start tracking them?
4:47 PM +1 Some who have gone through this with more than one kid have learned some of these lessons the hard way. Unfortunately for many, the only way to learn it is to experience it yourself. My first was on the fast track and was accepted D1 and some D3s and went D1 and 2 years later doesn't play the sport any more. My youngest we're now taking a more prudent path. We passed on a super high level program to accept something more local but still very good with great kids. She's happy, thriving and we've come to realize that is all that matters. Smiles mean more than goals for us these days though we've been through it both ways. To each is one's own.
Kumbaya its time for the group hug.
I know because several college coaches told my older kid they were tracking her beginning in 8th grade (u14). Its like everything else in parenting you have to look out for your kid's future when they aren't mature enough to make decisions to ensure their own success. Of course the "right place" doesn't make them miserable or bankrupt the family before the haters take hold of this. Not living through them helping them find the right place for them to reach their potential. No different from a private school or tutor or sat class or violin lessons with a master or city orchestra etc...
Any info on when tracking will start now? If they continue to start at u14, they will get 1/2 7th graders.
The college coaches won't be scouting age groups they will be scouting graduating classes. You will still see some coaches at high level only ( national league / ECNL showcases) u14 games tracking exceptional 8th graders. They are the ones who have been invited to national camp or are outstanding on their top level teams, but kept out of camps for unfathomable reasons. The college coaches see through he politics and other factors keeping great players out.
The 2002/2003s aren't done as U13s quite yet. A big day today in USYS State Cup play. Results so far:DE - Kirkwood 2, DE Rush 0.VA - DC Stoddard 2, Beach FC 0.PAW - North United 2, Beadling 0.MA - FCUSA 1, South Shore 0. This may be the upset of the day. South Shore now uses its position as the RCL Champion to advance to the Region 1 tournament. This prevents SDFC from going to the tournament. Will FCUSA replicate success in the Philly market next year?MD - Pipeline defeats Bethesda. No score available yet.NYW - Games underway late today.Many of the familiar faces from EDP, RCL and local MidAtlantic tournaments will be in Barboursville, so the teams will know a lot about each other.
WNY Flash wins NYW State Cup.
SDFC is going to West Virginia....
10:17 - On what ticket?
10:17 Who cares.
It would make sense that starting in the fall there will be far less college attention paid to the U14 group. Every soccer team has a very limited recruiting budget, and they will spend their time and money scouting U15-U18 depending on who you are. The big schools fill classes about a year early than the mid-majors and smaller conference schools. I do know several current U14 ECNL players who have been actively scouted. I have to think that is less likely next year.
10:17 obviously someone cared enough to post it on the blog. Your comment just comes off as a distrungled jack? that possibly was eliminated somewhere along the way. If you really didn't care your would not have bothered to comment at all. LOSER
I wonder who dropped out,in order for sdfc to now qualify?You should be so proud of that. Who is the LOSER now????
12:19 I still think you are the LOSER because for someone who did not care you cant seem to stop blogging about it. What are you some at home daddy with too much time on your hands.
I guess in your eyes TRUTH=LOSER.Have a great time in W Virginia loosing.LOSER!!!!!!
What is "loosing"? Is that the term you use when your loose wife sleeps around?
Voorhees dropped out of going to WV. Thats why SDFC is going. Voorhees lost to many players from last fall to compete. Things happen!
You are all overstating the importance or impact of girls DA. It will affect maybe 20 girls per birth year in NJ and it's an open question as to whether the DA model can succeed in developing world class talent in the United States. The simple fact is that the truly elite athletes in the US play multiple sports which is almost impossible under the DA model. I'm sure that the level of play for DA will be very good but I don't see our elite athletes giving up lax, basketball, etc., to play DA. Why should they?DA is coming because the USSF wants to exert its control over all of soccer in the U.S. The existing program of development has done pretty well: US women are the best in the world by a wide margin and only lose when they underachieve. How is girls DA going to top that?
Very very few college programs attend Barboursville for any of the age groups. It is not an easy place to get to and if you are going to spend budget money on recruiting this is not the place a coach will go. Choice between going to San Diego or Barboursville, it is pretty simple. For those of you that have not yet been to Barboursville....you will see. There is NO worse place an event could be scheduled. You won't be handing out many profiles.
4:43 Sorry but not everyone has the funds to do ECNL and travel to CA. So hopefully girls DA will help those families that want there daughter to be seen with less expense.
less expense? go ask the boys at all programs other than like Redbulls and Phil Union. its WAY more cash.
4:43pm. Incorrect about College Coaches not going there. They do. In abundance. My older daughters team went last year, granted they are High Schoolers but we had 20-30 coaches at each game. You are correct on one thing though, the location and some of the fields are terrible and it boggles the mind why they host Regionals there. Still it's the last of the 2 year cycle so next year will be somewhere else.
4:43 and 8:20 - Marshall certainly gets a close look at the teams. It carried 5 players on its roster from PAE in 2015 and has another PAE player joining the team in 2016. At that, Marshall has been recruiting on a nationwide basis, so its percentage of PAE players is surprisingly high.
1:23 the writing is on the wall. The pool of wealthy who can afford ECNL gets smaller every year, as the economy sinks. The rest of world (ROW) does not have a pay to play model, so they can pick from 100% eligible kids, not the 5% represented by the ECNL. I'm surprised this had to be spelled out for you.
Marshall coach was a regional ODP coach. He recruited heavily from that position. Smart move on his part in my opinion.
EDP Summer Classic! Will PDA Lyon take it all at U13, or will the Red Bulls RDS show that their brand name attracts even better talent?
"EDP Summer Classic! Will PDA Lyon take it all at U13, or will the Red Bulls RDS show that their brand name attracts even better talent?"Lyon wins either way.This is funny. "Lyon" in this tournament is the new 2004 team for next season playing summer select with its new tiny U11 kids added to the ones who were 04's already."Red Bulls" in this tournament have a roster of whom the best players consist of several 2003 Lyon team members since PDA not doing summer select for 2003's. others are )2/03's from World Class. Red Bull &older Lyon over new 04 Lyon.
10:55 excuses for Lyon already? Ouch.
Have you seen Marshall or been to that area before?? If you have other choices to get the free education then don't go Marshall. I
So pda lyon. How did it go? Was it you or the red bulls?
Chil. It's summer soccer. Time to play with others or start working with new age group teammates. Props to anyone playing up and getting a head start on the fall.
Why are Lyons even on this blog? They should stay at age group where they belong. They were an easy win for us, score could have been much higher.
"No! We will not die like dogs, we will fight like Lyons."
Lyons can take any u13 team, except the one from last weekend. We should be on this bog as we are good enough to compete with this age group. We kept all the strongest members of the team at 04.
No shame in that loss Lyons. Thats a good team that can play with anyone except maybe rush blue when they play well.
Region 1 Championships U13G Groups:Group A (aka Group of Death)(PA-E) (SC) HMMS Eagle FC Impact(NY-E) (SC) Levittown Wildcats(NJ) (CL1) SDFC Rage(MA) (SWC) South Shore SelectGroup B (CT) (SC) Ginga FC(MA) (SC) FCUSA Coastal Impact (MD) (SC) Pipeline (VT) (SC) Far Post PremierGroup C(PA-W) (SC) North United Rush(DE) (SC) Kirkwood Academy 02/03(NY-W) (SC) WNY Flash Academy(VT) (SWC) Nordic Premier Group D(NJ) (SC) NJ Rush 02 Blue(WV) (SC) WVFC 2002(VA) (SC) DC Stoddert Metros(ME) (SC) Velocity Premier SC BoyntonPredictions:Three of the best teams in the tournament, all of which under a more balanced seeding could be playing in the final, will beat each other up in Group A. Too close to call a winner of the Group.Pipeline takes Group B with little effort.North United takes Group C.Rush Blue takes Group D just by showing up.The only team in the tournament to have beaten Rush Blue this year is HMMS, although Pipeline and North United have played Rush Blue close. However, HMMS has lost to and tied South Shore, had a close call against SDFC, and has struggled against Pipeline. South Shore likely advances out of Group A.South Shore and Rush Blue play in the final, with Rush Blue taking it all.
U11&U12 PDA Lyon 1 U13 NY Red Bull 1Red Bull had a couple great players from Long Island pre-ECNL teams, World Class, some STA kids and then PDA Lyon kids too. They were bigger and stronger had a great goal. Lyon played them even and scored a goal off of a set piece, For Lyon to lose to the #2 team in New Jersey and #5 team in America(gotsoccer) 4-2. No shame in that...
To answer a previous question about how SDFC made it to the Region 1 Championship: SDFC was granted the Region 1 Champions League tournament berth because the RCL champion, South Shore, was granted a MA state wildcard tournament berth; RCL finalist HMMS is the PAE state cup representative; and RCL semifinalist North United is the PAW state cup representative. As the other RCL semifinalist, SDFC received the RCL spot in the Region 1 tournament because the other three RCL teams each had their own ticket through state cup play.
Arsenal Maximus Red according to YSR:#5 NJ#15 Region 1#69 NationArsenal Maximus YSR rating = 32.81PDA Lyon YSR rating = 32.72Predictive outcome between Arsenal Maximus Red and PDA Lyon should have been a draw. With a 4-2 win, Arsenal over-performed, and Lyon under-performed.GS is marginally valid, particularly now that it has age groups all mixed up
PDA Lyon group of '04's - Maximus 02/03's - not comparing apple to apples - some kids 2 years older on Maximus
Ysr is predictive without age boundries. Didnt lyon win u13 edp central? I have heard arsenal is mostly 03. Maybe a couple dec 02. If arsenal is playing 02 next year lyon is a good model of performance on what playing up will be like.
When did Lyons get all the 04s? A month ago the team was 90% or more 03.
Funny thing is, Arsenal had 3-4 starters injured and were playing with newly recruited kids (at least they were injured in the last few league games). So they were just working out their kinks in the first 2 games.
People, Lyon is a really high quality team. I would bet you all the teams mentioned on these posts are all quality to some large degree. Arsenal has been in the mix for years whatever their age. Rush Rage Renegades has been at the top for a long time. Galaxy top quality. SDFC always dangerous. Some come up and some edge a bit lower, but all these teams, way beyond the short list i provided above, are playing good soccer and give each other great competition. In a few years, you're going to laugh that you ever made such a meal about specific wins and losses. Are your kids in love with the sport, their teammates, working hard, and getting better every day?? If so, you're in a great spot.
+100! The negative whiners up here are in that situation. They might figure it out when its too late and realize they missed out on some great years where they could have enjoyed the dang thing. These are the same folk that never get invited to the team after-game parties and hang outs. Its not your kids, its you. If you're negative here, you're negative in life. People just don't want to be around you.
June 5, 2016 at 3:53 PM “….in USYS State Cup play. Results so far:MA - FCUSA 1, South Shore 0. This may be the upset of the day. …..Will FCUSA replicate success in the Philly market next year?”Results from Division 2http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=48470&ApplicationID=3488106
11:45. Confused by that post. The team didnt do great in the B-division of a C tournament. How did they get to play south shore? Are you sure its the real south shore team?
@ 11:45 The team that played and beat South Shore was the MA FCUSA. The poster was asking if the PA FCUSA (it's a national club with teams in many cities) could do the same. Just providing some data on that question.
8:04 - Good clarification. If you are an aficionado of this board and all of its gossip, you would know that FCUSA is expanding in the Philly market, particularly on the girls side, and has allegedly attracted players from such better teams as Lower Merion Fenix. FCUSA is owned and operated by UK Elite Soccer, which has also operated the Haverford program. FCUSA has a New Jersey operation in the Basking Ridge area.
So are the Lyons now moving to u14 and Galaxy u15. Assume so now that they are all over this blog.
Thanks. Have been reading on and off. Hadnt heard of that team or club creating any top teams.
Thanks for the FCUSA ad. In Philly, it is composed of the leftovers from a very dysfunctional, crazy team that drove away all its talent spring before last and this past fall (some in the middle of the season no less). This graph says it all http://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=1617324
Please stop wasting our time with this team facusa
I'd rather read something about FCUSA or any other new or different club or team rather than the same old PDA or Lyon crap.
At least pda lyon is a relevant conversation piece. They did win u13 edp central. Why do we care about a team thats tier four in a state (pae) with two good teams. You want to talk about hmms or pf Great. But dont waste time with garbage teams that no one cares to play for. No pda affiliation btw.
The "Relevant" poster is back! Only now the word is misspelled. A dictionary might be relevant is this situation.FYI kid soccer is relevant to the kids and parents on the team and the ones on the opposing team. Maybe the coach too. That's really about it and that's how it should be.
lyons are u13 next year, although most of the starters for Galaxy will probably be the Lyon players.
relevant is the correct spelling and it is also correct that all these teams are only relevant to the kids and parents involved.
Considering my kid has played for, plays for, may play for, has played, plays, or may play one or more of the youth soccer teams, then all of these teams are significant to me.
Exactly. Those are the ones relevant to you. The parents involved with other teams or soon to be in on find those teams significant to discuss. It is not realy rocket science.Any one that brags about any kid soccer team is in for a thrashing on principal that bragging is intolerable.
Bragging and tantrums are both best ignored. Neither is any fun at all if the audience isn't interested.
June 21, 2016 at 9:02 AM Enjoyed your predictions for Region 1, you are clearly knowledgeable about the teams. But your predicted final is impossible. The semis will be A/D and B/C, so the matchup of South Shore (MA) and Rush Blue (NJ) would be a semifinal matchup. Here are my predictions:Semis:Group A HMMS (PAE) vs. Group D Rush Blue (NJ)Group B Pipeline (MD) vs. Group C North United (PAW)Finals:Rush Blue (NJ) vs. Pipeline (MD)Champion: Rush Blue (NJ)I think there are 5 teams that have a real shot at winning it all, the four I have in the semis plus South Shore (MA). It's going to be a really fun and competitive tournament, expecting lots of great games. The amazing team speed at Rush Blue gives them an overall edge IMO
10:52 - Good catch on the bracket details. I still go with South Shore over HMMS with SDFC as a potential spoiler. Rush over South Shore or SDFC. North United over Pipeline. Rush likely prevails over North United unless North United scores early. Rush and North United have a similar attack with very similar primary threats, but I think North United is more composed.
And they all have the big 02 girls. Good luck next year in u15. Size won't matter anymore...
PDA GALAXY 03 TEAM:ALL 03S FROM PREVIOUS GALAXY TEAM1 FC BUCKS1 PENN FUSION1 CLARKSTOWN1 UNKNOWN7 LYON---------WHAT ECNL TEAM CAN COMPARE IN 03 AGE?
i thought it was against PDA rule code 15.2.1.(A)(iii) that you are not permitted to post up here. Who else would know that exact composition of the new squad? which kid from Penn? which kid from Clarkstown?Who can compete at this age? how about any of the teams that have beaten Galaxy before and will do so again. you're not attractive on your high horse.
You overlooked rule 15.2.1(B)(x), which permits exceptions when the post benefits PDA or otherwise demonstrates how wide a net PDA is willing to cast in order to assemble a competitive team.
PDA GALAXY 03 TEAM:7 03'S FROM PREVIOUS GALAXY TEAM1 O4 FROM PREVIOUS GALAXY TEAM1 FC BUCKS1 PENN FUSION1 CLARKSTOWN1 MIDDLETOWN7 LYON
See, rule 15.2.1(B)(x) is in effect.
@11:11 your list is incompletePDA GALAXY 03 TEAM:1 Staten Island United - and she is quick7 03'S FROM PREVIOUS GALAXY TEAM1 O4 FROM PREVIOUS GALAXY TEAM1 FC BUCKS1 PENN FUSION1 CLARKSTOWN1 MIDDLETOWN7 LYON
USYS Championships Update:Region I - Preliminary Games start July 1stRegion II - Semifinals June 28thOmaha FC Elite (NE) v Chicago Fire Juniors South Premier (IL)Cincinnati United Premier Gold (OH-S) v KHA 02 Red (KY)Region III - Quarterfinals June 28thSolar Chelsea (TX-N) v MS Rush Premier (MS)Tennessee SC Showcase (TN) v Davie United Sharks Blue (FL)Lady Lobos Rush Premier (TN) v BUSA Elite (AL) Sting Gutierrez (TX-N) v Solar Chelsea Red (TX-N)Region IV - Final1 - So Cal Blues0 – SD Surf Academy
Pennsylvania but not penn fusion. The only affiliate of PF (trained not joined) is on Lyon.
Deep bench at Galaxy. Whats the typical play time for not starters?
It's being run as a pool. All 30 spots will be used. Everyone will play, every week, albeit sometimes on the NPLs (which have short rosters). Smart move, given the chaos of the age change.
Galaxy is using all available spots? They usually have 1-2 open for late pickups or transfers.
3:14 a wise move on both parts. Featuring of a few at the expense of the balance of solid players.
USYS Region II Semifinal Results:0 - Omaha FC Elite (NE)1 - Chicago Fire Juniors South Premier (IL)4 - Cincinnati United Premier Gold (OH-S)0 - KHA 02 Red (KY)
Most will be filled in the fall, but a few not until spring.PF doesn't develop a few. The DOC misuses his position on natl training to get players from and promote them to natl camp. Seems like he is being eased out. They aren't much different than the solid players. Doesn't anyone notice what's wrong with this picture? All these natl camp types but middle of the bracket performance as teams.
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