Thursday, April 2, 2015

U13 Girls Youth Soccer in Region 1


Across the 12 states of U.S. Youth Soccer Region 1, there are some impressive club teams who are a lot of fun to watch.


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Anonymous said...

I think the league organizations in regards to team placements are a joke. Big power house soccer clubs with moolah try to control everything. And I guess they are doing a good job at it.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the so called NPL division, EDP league is a joke a money making league just like there expensive tourney's.

Anonymous said...

Agreed the best teams in the region should be grouped together to play each other, I see plenty of lopsided games in each division.

Anonymous said...

yes - why is arsenal maximus in second division?

Anonymous said...

Because they are a 8v8 team with no record of ever playing 11v11. They may not even have enough players to compete.

Anonymous said...

MAx has 18 on their roster. Solid tm from what I saw...

Anonymous said...

2 questions....

PDA Galaxy is Pre-ECNl now so they won't play in EDP?

Also, I thought Pre-ECNL is at U12 not U13?

Anonymous said...

pre ecnl is anything before U14. U14 is when the actual ECNL league starts. There are so many different leagues these days.

Anonymous said...

1243 If your just coming on this blog now that's an old fact. Changes will happen next year when they go by calendar year.

Hopefully EDP does crossover games I would like to see the top teams in each Div1 brackets play each other as well.

Anonymous said...

What birth years will play ECNL for 2016-2017 season?

Anonymous said...

@August 7, 2015 at 1:21 PM
Was just answering the person above who didn't know the ecnl age brackets obviously.

Anonymous said...

Pre-ECNL is a marketing term to get parents to flock to the club prior to the ECNL years. $$$$$$

Anonymous said...

@August 7, 2015 at 1:55 PM
$$$ you are on the money $$$

Anonymous said...

Average Pre-ECNL U13 player spends $2200-$2500 on tuition. Travel Cost $1200-$1600(Gas, Hotel, Tolls, Lunches/Dinners). Let's not forget extra $ for additional tournaments, training sessions, camps and coaching fees not built into team's budget, Est. $300-$500.

$3700-$4600 over est. cost - wait but they will get the exposure right. What a laugh, a normal strong Club team at U13, U14 with more games and tourney's could get you the same result. Now at U15 if you really want the additional exposure for your daughter that possibly still wants to play collegiately by all means ECNL clubs are thing for them but at U13-U14 it is still a trial period and money pit.

Anonymous said...

Where is PDA Galaxy, I don't see them in the EDP div?

Anonymous said...

They are in Pre-ECNL division for Northeast NPL league.

Anonymous said...

You can only spend so much on the late model SUV, the 8 pairs of nike cleats, turfs, indoors and slides, the I-phones, the patagonia, and the mocha doodle frappe lattes. There is plenty left over for travel and tuition.

Anonymous said...

"Average Pre-ECNL U13 player spends $2200-$2500 on tuition. Travel Cost $1200-$1600(Gas, Hotel, Tolls, Lunches/Dinners). Let's not forget extra $ for additional tournaments, training sessions, camps and coaching fees not built into team's budget, Est. $300-$500."

Do non ECNL teams not travel to tournaments and pay those costs? Are lunch/dinner/gas/tolls/hotels included in their tuition?

Anonymous said...

Are all roster set for the upcoming fall season ?

Anonymous said...

They are, until it all changes next year. Would someone tell me what percentage of PDA Galaxy starters are 03 compared to 02? Gives me an idea of odds of making the 03 team next year for ecnl. I believe this may help some of us with 03 birth years get a better chance of making team when you lose players from 02 year. I assume it's more weighted towards 02, so more spots open.

Anonymous said...

Has ECNL / NPL / EDP announced that they will be moving to calendar in fall of 2016 or is this just speculation that they all will move?

USSF is suggesting best practice for next year but not mandatory.

Anonymous said...

I don't think many teams will be affected by the change into birth year. Any 03 girls could just stay where they are with the 02 teams or just play with an 03 team if there are any spots available at that point. And if any current 01 teams have any 02 girls on them, they could also either stay where they are or just go with an 02 team. Not a big deal. I think most teams are 02 dominant anyway with maybe a couple 03s, so changes wouldn't really have to be made.

Anonymous said...

No announcement yet but what I'm hearing is many players will be grandfathered into current squad. So if your an '03 player not on the bottom currently playing with an abundance of 02's then your daughter will not be asked to move down but to continue to play with the 02's. This goes by every age group.

It's the newer batch of U13's of Pre-ECNL teams next year that they will start off the calendar year. This is the assumption for U.S. Club ECNL clubs. Again this is all rumors but matter what it's going to based on talent level evaluation.
2016/2017
03's(fka U13's): Pre-ECNL
02's(fka U14's): ECNL
01's(fka U15's): ECNL
00's(fka U16's): ECNL
99's(fka U17's): ECNL
98's(fka U18's): ECNL

Anonymous said...

Once the rosters are posted on the ECNL website you can go to member clubs choose team under 2015-2016 and it will give you rosters with DOB's.
Here is PDA Pre-ECNL(Galaxy): http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/teams/78824319/50750405-78824368/TEAM.html

Anonymous said...

So, very interesting, Pre-ECNL Galaxy is loaded with '02's.

Girls that, if calendar year, would be currently U14 instead of U13.

Anonymous said...

308 you are incorrect they would be considered U14 next fall. The 138 blogger has it correct on how it will look like next year.

Anonymous said...

Reality is that PDA u13 pre-ecnl team has more 03's/04 than 02's in starting positions.

Anonymous said...

I see what you mean. What confused me is that the "league year" will no longer coincide with the start of the fall.

Mainly b/c I am dumb. lol

Do you think there is any chance that the leagues may run spring to fall as opposed to the current fall to spring cycle?

I am thinking it may have to go that way.

Main tryout cycles would occur in the fall as opposed to the current spring.

Some clubs already have the twice a year tryouts anyway.

Anonymous said...

332 Very True and how 02's are on the PDA's U14 ECNL team that's the true question because all the 02's will be lobbying for roster position come next spring for tryouts if many of the 02's on U14 ECNL decide to come down and play. This goes for many teams.

Going to be very interesting. Whom ever posted the ECNL roster links thank you it gives a very good idea of whom is truly on the roster vs. so called GS rosters that have 25+ players.

Anonymous said...

@August 10, 2015 at 3:32 PM

You're wrong.

Anonymous said...

Who cares about year, worry how well your daughter plays this next year then everyone can re-visit. This is a big transition year as many players may progress and catch up to others. While other players that were all stars fall back.

Anonymous said...

@4:38 / why is 3:32 wrong? Who is right?

Anonymous said...

A dominant 02 player would likely play U14 or possible U15 this year.

Anonymous said...

@934 You are right and based on that link to ECNL club rosters I've spotted a few already. Interesting on what they will do if it goes calendar year.

Anonymous said...

@9:34 PM - many dominant 02s could play current U14 possible U15, doesn't mean they do. Depending which team your child is on and the level of play, she may be getting more challenged right where she is. I know plenty of so called 'academy level' teams that are a year or two older that can't play anywhere close to the level of where my child's team is. Remember, coming on this blog, you never know which level of play people are talking about or even which state their child is playing in.

Anonymous said...

stars of mass brackets are out - as well as fall schedule
Can someone explain why Arsenal aka Maximus Red who won 8 v 8 state cup and had the merger taken place with World Class was touted as the players to dominate their pre-ecnl team is playing in the NPL 2nd division north and in the lowest bracket in the U13 stars of mass tournament. Doesn't make sense. is this just poor flighting?

Anonymous said...

@8:40. I was just referring to individual players not entire teams. An unusually strong individual player may need to play with older faster players to find the right challenge and level of play.

Anonymous said...

FC Star and WAGs brackets are not finalized they will adjust just like Spirit did. Tournament directors will do there homework, or the tournament will lose value in attendance.

Anonymous said...

@12:46 PM
They are actually playing in EDP's 2nd Division North. Not in the NPL division of EDP. Where does it say that there is a merger with World Class? Do you have a link to back that up? The teams that suffer with league play, are the teams that came in at the top two placements in each division previously and now play teams who get automatic bids into the 1st divisions. A previous poster nailed it. It would be nice if all those top teams could play each other. US Club wouldn't allow it with their ECNL and NPL and control over other leagues now. When it comes down to it, it's probably all about money. They psychologically make people start thinking that if their child is not a member of their certain clubs, that their children may not develop to their potential. And trust me, the controllers of US Club like to have the power and control. Just look at how the team placements are. Depending on certain licenses, memberships that you have to be accepted ect.- is the deciding factor on whether or not this team can play that team. It's not even about the true top teams playing each other anymore. It's ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

I'm the Top Team poster and many thanks for the Kudo's. 253 I agree to many controlling objects from happening now, even though GS is not a bad tool it still helps with organizing the best teams. Wish youth soccer had a setup like Little League World Series even other countries come over for that.

Anonymous said...

@253. Maximus was bought out by World Class. The original assumption was that World Class would take over the U13G team, hence pre-ecnl team, but manager of Max didn't want that, so they basically just joined with Arsenal and call it Max Arsenal. This is what the poster was referring to I believe.

Anonymous said...

Spent some time trying to read the posts about the potential shift in age brackets vs "u-13" groupings. It seems like when they do it, it will absolutely cause issues. I'm sure for the big clubs with depth at every age bracket, and quality at every age bracket, it works, but at all but those biggest groups, many teams have been together for a while and enjoy being together while playing good soccer. I can't seem to figure out exactly what the benefit is? They couldn't seriously consider such a massive change to benefit such a small few?

Anonymous said...

928 I think it will be more of an option for clubs to do it as it will cause a huge ripple effect in the smaller and town clubs. I'd prefer if they kept it the way it is as the current carding system does group many of the kids almost to the same school grade year, with only small % born in Aug. only but those kids can always play up.

Going calendar year will cause a hugh impact half the kids on the team will be in different grades.

Anonymous said...

That is a good thing. Kids should have more opportunity to get to know kids outside of their own grade.

Anonymous said...

1219 isn't playing at club levels a way to meet kids outside there school and grade also.

Anonymous said...

My daughter's team won't be affected. They are all mostly 02's and in the same grade and maybe a couple a grade up. This change will actually benefit them developmentally as they are one of the top teams that need to be more challenged. Would be great to see some teams possibly change and become stronger.

Anonymous said...

Many teams do have kids from a variety of schools on the team. But the new age guidelines apply to all teams. More localized town teams, with many players are from the same grade and district, can benefit from greater interaction between grades.

Anonymous said...

132 Yeah I can see the town level teams now, half will be in high school and other half will 8th graders next year. I can see a lot of fall sessions with players missing due to high school soccer. Oh wait so how does that benefit my daughter when half the team is missing at practice.

If they go calendar year we'll be moving to a club team next year any.

Anonymous said...

See ya later...they are changing

Anonymous said...

2:07, go read the minutes from the last time they tried voting on it and it was shot down. same reasoning, little benefit, big burden. I don't see how playing all 02s together is stronger than a mix of 02/03s. You can have 02s from Jan being 12 months from a Dec 31st 02. Same 1 year gap as you'd have in the current scheme. This reminds me of some democratic stupidity where they do things just to do them thinking that in doing something they've done something whenin fact they've done nothing but hurt the system.why stir the pot just to stir the pot. 99% of the kids out there just want to enjoy the sport with their friends, teammates, classmates, and while they love watching Mia Hamm, they know they arent nor want to be Mia Hamm. The more you turn off kids from the sport believing something like this helps, the more you hurt the sport. I still have yet to hear a valid reason for this change other than grouping kids the way the US National team does so.

Anonymous said...

Personally I think the ODP and US National recruitment should adjust based on the current carding system or move it Sept 1st to Aug 31st. So when they get older and recruitment comes into play majority of the girls are in the same grade.
207 you are on the button it was shot down last time so we'll see come January if it is shot down again.

Anonymous said...

Folks, they made the change and it was documented and proven on this blog a month ago. I don't have time to do your research, but things are not going your way. Let me guess, you have a 2002 child and probably born early fall. All the advantages she has had may just go away and at the worst time. At least she will still be the oldest in her grade and get here license early.

Anonymous said...

758 Until they make it publicly aware of on U.S. Club and U.S. Youth's website and not a bunch links people find. When the leagues & tournaments send out an official notice then we can talk about next steps. I've seen this played out so many times with converting games to 8v8 v 11v11 at the U11 & U12 ages and took almost 4-5 years to adopt that and still a ongoing process as U12 as some clubs still play 11v11 at U12. As moving to 8v8 games down to U11 and U12 were talked about back in 2010 when clubs wanted to follow a more European model.

If it does happen then it may just happen on the top girls league(ECNL) only similar to what the boys academy have going by calendar year but all leagues and tournaments are through a carding process.
And remember those carding systems are for insurance purposes so health legal thing will need to be passed on that aspect of the system.

Keep in mind Gotsoccer will have a nightmare on there hand as teams reset there history as you can't carry you points over to team under a certain rules. Half your team is 03 and other half is 02 but are ranked on two different levels who gets those points total nightmare for clubs. LOL

Anonymous said...

I agree with 10:48am. If this were definitely happening then US Club or US Youth Soccer would have sent out an announcement. Instead we have a website link from a club in California as i recall?

I'll believe it when i see it.

Anonymous said...

Yup total agree to many moving pieces for them to implement across the board. I'll wait to see it as well.

Anonymous said...

It's 2016 optional , then 2017 mandatory. It's all good and have been told by DOC it's going into effect.
The real reason this helps is to keep girls playing against stronger competition, this is the number one thing you can do for development.
Why would you want you daughter to be playing with younger girls instead of older girls? Yes, this will force a bunch of 2002 girls to move up and have to compete against the other best 2002 girls, but this is what you should want. If playing time and friends is more important to you, then move to rec.

Anonymous said...

@August 13, 2015 at 1:35 PM

THANK YOU!!! I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!

Anonymous said...

135 Please send us proof it's optional than mandatory some DOC's have claimed that and others have claimed it's still in discussion. Please provide us all proof from U.S. Club's website or US Youth that it states what you have blogged. If I'm wrong I'm man enough to admit it and my daughter is 03 and her team is majority 02's so I would feel see will be brought down on level of play due to this change. So your statement is unjustified.

Anonymous said...

@2:29 PM > I wouldn't worry about your 03'. She could continue playing with the 02s if she is one of the players that the team depends on. If she doesn't get much playing time because she is not playing at the same level as the other girls, than it wouldn't be a bad idea having her drop down to play with girls born in her own birth year of 03.

I also did hear from our club about it being mandatory in 2017. At that time the girls will already be in HS, si wouldn't really matter anyway.

Anonymous said...

235 If your in an ECNL club which many DOC's have talked about it I understand where you are getting this info from as I am also in the same boat but still would rather see it come the TOP and make it public. We are talking about the other 90% of girls in other clubs outside the ECNL structure where it will probably start first as those DOC's have not confirmed any of that yet.
Yes I do worry about my own daughter '03 and she is on the upper level on her team so I would have her play up if it does that way but that's going to be decided on how many '02's come down from the '01's. Again it's a ripple effect that's going to cause chaos.

Anonymous said...

They should leave all things alone. If they want to go to birth year they should start at the younger ages that are just beginning. This will cause problems for lots of teams with little or no benefit for most

Anonymous said...

They can't start with one year or that first group would only have a half year of players to start with. Would not have enough to field teams in some cases. It is out of my control so I will not worry about it. Maybe the roster changes will be for the better.

Anonymous said...

Spirit schedule posted any predictions?

Anonymous said...

playing with older kids is not valid. The girls will always have a 12 month window whether its U13 or Jan12002 to Jan 31 2002. There will always be someone who could be 12months older or younger than someone else. someone born lets say July 2003 is the youngster right now, becomes a mid-aged if we went calendar. sorry, playing with older is not statistically valid argument.

Anonymous said...

Why does Spirit have 3 pre-ECNL teams(FC Stars, Council Rock, & FC Virginia) in 2nd flight if these teams are supposedly the best of the best players within an area let them play in the top bracket to really see what the squad is made of as since there are a few in Top bracket I think will not compete.

Anonymous said...

Who said ECNL is always the best of the best? It is the best of the kids that try out for the team.

Anonymous said...

@ 1:01 pm - It's not by the 'acronym' placed next to the team name showing which league the team is playing in or will be playing in. If top tournaments want to remain being top tournaments, they have to place the teams in brackets based on their playing history. Not for which league they play in. Every league will be lop sided. Tournaments are where you will hopefully get the true match ups. Why else do you think ECNL teams can't participate in State Cup? Because if they lose, ...you get it. Enough said.

Anonymous said...

I think 101 was being sarcastic everyone as he/she was pointing out they automatically do not get top level just because of a prefix. Everyone knows ECNL is just Hype at U13 that's why the pre-fix "PRE" is there referencing the pre-team before they make 50% turnover next year. lol

Anonymous said...

Well 2:54 pm, I think 2:45 pm means U13/U14/U15 ect...

Anonymous said...

Nothing against Gotsoccer but it shows who the true teams are and will keep those top teams playing top level in tournaments as well.

Anonymous said...

GotSoccer doesn't always show true top teams. Look for example at US Club's Mid Atlantic Regional. You don't get enough quality top teams participating but winners get so called Gotsoccer points and a so called meaningless title. And at U13 and above placement into getting into a National Final run when they can't cut it winning US Club state cup.

Here was that schedule:
http://soccer.sincsports.com/TTSchedules.aspx?tid=USCLUBB&year=2015&stid=USCLUBB&syear=2015&div=U12F01

Notice how they can put whatever teams in there that apply. Title chasers keep the parents of those teams satisfied and staying there because they are participating in these money grabbers that give them points and a winning title of something.

Anonymous said...

I see some teams using "pre" before their NPL team. Looks like it's an epidemic.

Anonymous said...

1:20 You are onto something about title chasers, pleasing parents, and plumping up a club with titles. I have a friend whose daughter plays for Copa FC. For the past two years they've played in the U.S. Club Southeast Regional instead of the Mid-Atlantic Regional. I don't understand why this club would have their teams compete in a region that isn't there, make their kids play in North Carolina, and make parents shell out more time and money for what appears to be an unnecessary travel trip for "titles." This year's Mid-Atlantic regional was at PDA. Copa could have saved their parents money and time and have the players sleep in their own beds. I guess Copa FC has no problems chasing "titles" and using the financial backs of decent, hardworking moms and dads to puff up the club.

Anonymous said...

Finally the 1st batch of games start this weekend good luck to all at Spirit and really look forward what many teams will look like this coming fall.

Anonymous said...

This has bothered me all weekend and all the talk to converting to calendar year. After watching the USA blow out Costa Rica, why all the rush to change to calendar year. Whom is it to say we are falling behind other countries on the women's side of soccer in the U.S. Clearly we dominated or have showed plenty of promise for the past 15 years and all those players grew up in the current format and probably even played 11v11 at U11. I say if it isn't' broke don't fix it!

Also it looks like the men's side is struggling and their academy format has been calendar year for some time now.

U.S. Club & U.S. Youth don't let these over sea characters say we are falling behind on the women's side because clearly based on the success stories they are not.

Anonymous said...

FC stars - to bad rage has to play MF and WCFC in you bracket - both very weak teams.
i wonder what team MF ecnl is? Have they mixed njx girls into the team?

Anonymous said...

7:01 maybe you should consider finding out the facts before posting. Many FC Copa players of all ages were in Canada watching the World Cup games during the time that PDA hosted its mid Atlantic regional. Can't be in two places at once. I'm sure if you bothered to actually talk to your friend about the trip you would have discovered this, but instead you come on here bashing a team you know nothing about, and and posting about an age group which is irrelevant to this one. Go crawl back under your rock, please.

Anonymous said...

Girls U13
Championship
Bracket A
ALBERTSON FURY '02 (NYE)
PHWM SC FURY (MD)
PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NOVA (NJ)


Bracket B
PENN FUSION SA PREECNL'02 GIRLS (PAE)
NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS BLUE (FKA RAGE FC RENEGADES) (NJ)
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (NEW) (MA)


Bracket C
HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC (PAE)
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
CHERRY HILL FC DESTROYERS '02 (NJ)


Bracket D
CLARKSTOWN 2003 WHITE-ROZYCKI (NYE)
AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 02 NPL (MA)
CONTINENTAL FC PRE-ECNL '02F (PAE)




Elite
Bracket A
SJEB '02G NPL (NJ)
AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 02 NEP (MA)
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 02 GIRLS (PAE)


Bracket B
CT RUSH SW 02/03 (CT)
INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 02-03 02-03 (NJ)
RAGE SC '02 ATHLETICA (PAE)


Bracket C
FC STARS OF MASS WEST PRE ECNL (MA)
ISA SLAMMERS 02 (NYE)
COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS RED PRE-ECNL (PAE)


Bracket D
FC VIRGINIA PREECNL 02 (VA)
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 02 (NJ)
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS HELIOS BLACK (PAE)




Platinum
Bracket A
ATLETICO FC GIRLS '02 (NYE)
NORTH UNION UNITED 02F STRIKERS (PAE)
PARKLAND AREA SC PASC FORCE (PAE)


Bracket B
CESC CALVERT SQUAD WHITE (MD)
DELAWARE RUSH (DE)
MONTGOMERY UNITED MONU 02'S (PAE)


Bracket C
DELRAN FC UNION (NJ)
SUPERNOVA FC SUPERNOVA 02/03G BLACK (PAE)
EAST ISLIP SC LIGHTNING (NYE)


Bracket D
TWIN COUNTY SA XTREME 02/03 (NJ)
WARRINGTON SC FC NINJAS (PAE)
BRENTWOOD SC STORM (NYE)




Premier
Bracket A
HARLEYSVILLE FC HFC READY '02 (PAE)
FC BERNA LEGACY 02G GOLD (NJ)
PHWM PATRIOTS (MD)


Bracket B
CONTINENTAL FC NPL '02F (PAE)
ARUNDEL ASA ARSENAL (MD)
PENN LEGACY FC PL 02 BLACK F (PAE)


Bracket C
NJ ELITE '02/'03 (NJ)
FALLSTON FREEDOM (MD)
BALTIMORE BAYS LEGACY (MD)


Bracket D
MOUNT LAUREL UNITED PRIDE (NJ)
PENN FUSION SA NPL'02 GIRLS (PAE)
LOWER MERION SC THUNDERBOLTS (PAE)




Gold
Bracket A
COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS RAMPAGE (PAE)
HAVERFORD ELITE 02 (PAE)
HMMS GALAXY (PAE)


Bracket B
FC EUROPA ATTACK (PAE)
PENNSYLVANIA PSA 02 WHITE (PAE)
HERSHEY 02 ORANGE KICKKATS (PAE)


Bracket C
FC YORK 02 ELITE (PAE)
LEE MOUNT VERNON SC LMVSC PATRIOTS RED 02 (VA)
YMS HEAT (PAE)


Bracket D
VINCENT UNITED INTEGRITY (PAE)
SMS BLAST WHITE PREMIER (MD)
HUNTER SC MUSTANGS (PAE)




Silver
Bracket A Bracket B
CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '02F (PAE)
PATRIOT FC RED VIPERS (PAE)
GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FUTBOL GBUFC RED '02 SELECT (NYW)
UKRAINIAN NATIONALS HELIOS RED (PAE)


Bracket B
FC PROVIDENCE STRIKERS (PAE)
PREMIER MUSTANGS (MD)
SUPER NOVA 02/03G (PAE)
WARRINGTON WHITE WILDCATS (PAE)




Bronze
Bracket A
METHACTON UNITED SC FORCE (PAE)
FC YORK 02 PREMIER BLUE (PAE)
PIPELINE SC RED (MD)
WEST CHESTER UNITED SC EAGLES'02 GIRLS (PAE)
PHWM SC ARSENAL (MD)




White
Bracket A Bracket B
ROSE TREE SC FIREWORKS (PAE)
LIGHTHOUSE FORCE (PAE)
DONEGAL YOUTH SOCCER LIGHTNING '02 (PAE)


Bracket B
LANGHORNE NESHAMINY UNITED VENOM (PAE)
RADNOR SAMBA G02-03 (PAE)
LANSING KNIGHTS YO LKYO INTER MAYFAIR (PAE)

Anonymous said...

@7:01 - Wow, that's crazy. But, you know why they are doing that right? Copa plays on Rutgers turf and Rutgers coach is girls' DOC at PDA. Don't you think they have some sort of agreement, possibly both financially and use of fields, so that both clubs can try and earn a 'title'. I've almost had enough of soccer and it's politics in general. It's quite disturbing all around.

Anonymous said...

From other blog:


From NTX:


I wanted to update you on the changes that are underway with the USSF Player Development Initiatives.This is what we believe to be true at this point in time. We are still verifying some aspects of this and will let you know if changes take place. This will affect all:


- North Texas Member Associations' registration of players and formation of teams
- North Texas Competitive Club team formation
- North Texas league playing rules and field layouts
- All other Federation organizations

I have attached some documents to help you understand the initiatives.

The Player Development Initiatives presentation was provided to us by the Federation to help explain the small sided game plan. It outlines their recommendations on field size as well as the number of players on the field, game length, etc.

The highlights of the small sided formats are:

U8 and below - 4 v 4, no goal keeper
U9, U10 - 7 v 7, goal keeper, but no punting
U11, U12 - 9 v 9

We are expecting some lattitude on the sizes of fields as associations and playing leagues are working with any field modifications necessary.

I have also attached a spreadsheet that has two tabs. One tab compares where we are now with where we need to be by 2017 on small sided soccer. The key differences for NTX are the U7/U8 age group, where we will need to move down to 4 v 4 and the U11/U12 age group where we need to move down to 9 v 9. We are recommending that we move the U7 to 4 v 4 and the U11 to 9 v 9 next year, so that when they move up to U8 and U12 the following year, they will be keeping the same playing format. Then going into 2017, everyone will have transititioned to the desired format.

There is another tab on the calendar year age groups. North Texas Soccer is planning to make this change for the 2016/2017 playing year. We are in the process of confirming with USSF that these are the correct birth years for the correct age groups for 2016/17 and that all of the other programs that we interact with are changing at the same time. It will mean that half of each current age group will repeat their age group, if they decide to play within their calendar birth year age group.

We will be extensively revising the North Texas rules, submitting them to the membership for approval at the mid-year AGM in January. To minimize the disruption to already formed teams, we are recommending changes to the rules regarding playing up. Keeping in mind that a team is always designated by the age of their oldest player, we are recommending that players be permitted to play up at any age group. Then teams with half of their players with one calendar year birthdate and half with another can continue to play together, just designated as the older age. Associations and clubs could then begin at the youngest age groups with players all from the same calendar birth year and phase into age pure teams. In addition, any new players added to teams could be added to their own calendar year age group. If a club or association wanted to go ahead and make adjustment to existing teams, hopefully with minimal upset to players and parents, they
would
have the ability to do that.

We will plan time at the AGM to discuss the implementation of these changes, so we are all ready to start with registration in next summer. I will also be working with the Competitive Committee to make any rules recommendations necessary to help make this a smooth transition. This is a lot of changes in a very short period of time and we are very fortunate to be working with a great group of associations and clubs that I am sure will work together and get this done.

Thank you for all you do for the players and your organizations.

Sincerely,

Janet
Janet Campbell
Youth Commissioner
NTX Soccer

Anonymous said...

@August 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM
SEE - - No changes have to really be made at this age group with already formed teams.

Anonymous said...

Only if the team is willing to play at the oldest player's year.

So, if you have four '02 players and 13 '03's, the team will probably want to play at '03 and will leave the '02's to find a different team.

Anonymous said...

PDA hosted the 2014 Mid-Atlantic regionals too. But Copa went to NC last year in addition to this year. It doesn't make sense to have parents unnecessarily travel and pay money when the appropriate regional is a stone's throw away from Rutgers.

Anonymous said...

Teams don't make decisions clubs do. No guarantee this will happen next year, there is a chance an agreement will be made so that everyone goes together in 2017. Be a bit of a mess if some go in 2016 and some go in 2017. Biggest issue is fields, clubs need an abundance of time to make sure they have enough fields of the right size. Sounds easy, but it's not. Won't be finalized until winter as I understand it.

Anonymous said...

Can someone explain who the match fit pre ecnl team is playing at stars? What a joke, they have no team.

Anonymous said...

Stars has updated brackets - still no schedules. Looks like some nice changes. And I agree that MFFC should not be in top bracket.

Anonymous said...

SDFC shouldn't be in the first bracket either and why is PDA in such a low bracket?

Anonymous said...

PDA Crew? Because they are average, hence the low flighting.

Anonymous said...

i read crap like this, i want to throw up all over the poster. " PDA Crew? Because they are average, hence the low flighting. August 19, 2015 at 10:57 AM "

How in the world would you even know what good soccer is? you're a soccer website troll with zero life that you qualify and quantity a really nice U13 girls soccer team at one of the best clubs in the nation, girls who probably can hold even with their best sister teams. All of you people who think you know anything about this game shoudl just resign yourselves to dropping off your kids at practice and picking them up. If you want to be constructive, feed them well, tell them how proud of them you are, and leave it at that. I'd imagine 90% of the people on this site have no idea about soccer rules, regulations, formations, watch professional soccer, but yet some how are qualified to rank team.

Anonymous said...

Wow, PDA parent practically crying bc someone called your child's team average. Better to realize that now, instead of later when you're waiting and waiting for those college offers to come in...

Anonymous said...

Tell me why PDA Crew deserve to be flighted higher? No need to be upset by the previous posters summary of the team. They are a mediocre team until they prove otherwise.

Anonymous said...

It's a new season. Why don't we wait and see a few scores before we make dumb statements.

Anonymous said...

MFA should Def. be dropped to a lower bracket. Feel for those kids. New team , new club, and new beginning.

Anonymous said...

Why would they want to be there? Bad for club and for people spending so much time and money to travel for good comp.
Wake up matchfit and do the right thing.

Anonymous said...

Nova takes Spirit this weekend. Calling it now!

Anonymous said...

@August 21, 2015 at 1:13 PM
Is your daughter on that team?

Anonymous said...

@136 - Yup!

Anonymous said...

Oh ok. I think playing PHWM SC FURY should be a bit easier competition. ALBERTSON FURY '02 will be the team that will be the true match-up with your daughter's team in Bracket A. Could possibly go either way with those two teams to make semis but I'd say Nova should get into the semis.
Bracket B, tough call in that one. I'd probably go with NJ Rush Blue.
Bracket C, HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC to make the Semis, my guess.
Bracket D, CONTINENTAL FC my other guess.
Final Prediction - NJ Rush Blue vs HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC w/ NJ Rush Blue taking the overall win.

Anonymous said...

@249 You really have a lot of time on your hands to analyze 12 year old soccer teams. lol

Anonymous said...

Doesn't take much time to throw out predictions. And what does age have anything to do with it? Most parents take an interest in the age group that their child plays. You are obviously interested as you spend your time checking postings if you are coming on this blog, and probably have a child in this age group, hopefully that is.

Anonymous said...

I come here to get a laugh at what other crazy parents do, and yes I'm good with my club(#1 in the country) and having a very respectable coach.

Anonymous said...

@ 3:44 PM - I THINK YOU ARE ARROGANT AND A CREEPER.

Anonymous said...

I think 3:44 is pretending to be a parent from a club that he/she is not really part of to make a bad rep for parents of players from there.

Anonymous said...

Kids are probably on here also. If they can go about there own on social media apps and sites what makes you think some kid isn't on here.

Anonymous said...

PDA Nova with a strong effort so far at Spirit.
Surprised that Penn Fusion lost to the old Rage Renegade team, even with one of their players going over. Though, they did beat PF 4-0 in the spring.

2:49 is looking pretty good right now.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Pipeline stepped up their play this season. All teams are probably a bit different now.

Might be NJ Rush Blue or Nova vs Pipeline in the final

Anonymous said...

The good Albertson Fury team or shall I say better team is playing at the FC Stars Cup. Probably got the two confused.

Annoymous said...

There were some good games this weekend. I was very impressed with one of Nova's goalkeepers. She was phenomenal at pk's.
She picked the correct side everytime in the shootout until she made a save that put Nova in the finals.

Anonymous said...

434 Yes there was great weather and weekend of good soccer hopefully FC stars is the same! Hope to see many familiar faces up there as well. Nova seemed like they proved there and HMMS seems to be the strongest in the tri-state area.

Anonymous said...

HMMS I guess is the team to play this year.

Anonymous said...

223 You must be from PF or Rage if you were the only person to acknowledge of certain player movement. Yes Nova impressed and played well our newer additions have given us a stronger team and NJRush/Rage played strong but are coming off a long break. HMMS also has been playing all summer if you look at their history and sometimes that helps with conditioning going into a pre-season tourney. To early to tell who the better teams will be good luck this season.

Anonymous said...

@11:32 AM
agree with your post.

Anonymous said...

ODP selections came out today. What is the ODP program? Does it cost money and is it worth it?

Anonymous said...

Yes, it was great 5 years ago. It's a money grab now and everyone knows that.

Anonymous said...

ODP is all about the money. Did it with my older daughters. They had a great experience the first year but then we learned what it was all about. $$$ Will never do it with my others.

Anonymous said...

U.S. Soccer has press release. It's official. Calendar year is in effect.

Anonymous said...

Dam this age group of 02's and 03's have the biggest impact! Parents will have to weigh in on heavy discisions. If your daughter is a younger 02 going to compete against many of the older 02's playing u14 this fall. If your older 03 playing with 02's now do stay down and playing with younger 03's back at U13.
Going to be tuff call for many.
I would start looking at rosters DON's now.

Anonymous said...

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/08/24/18/07/150824-coaching-player-development-initiatives-rel

Anonymous said...

Very few girls on the best teams at the best clubs will have the option to play up, unless the team above is weak and in need of stronger players. Many of the second tier clubs will ride out the next few years playing up, but won't be able to compete at the highest levels anymore. May be a great time to look at the power house clubs, if you fall on the younger side of the fence. The advantage for so many fall bates just went the other direction at the worst possible time. The college showcases are two short years away.

Anonymous said...


Dumb leading the dumber over that at US Soccer. Lets hear it for the truly stupid!

Anonymous said...

936 Agreed! So many kids on the younger end of the calendars will lose so much confidence at the younger ages and quit the sport and coaches at the town level travel will take advantage and flow there best teams with kids born on the older side of the year. Stupid move US Soccer.

Women's soccer has strived and become a national hit why change something that is not broken. As you can see it's not working well on the academy side of the boys side going calendar year.

Anonymous said...

@ 942.

Said the parent of the August born kid.

The world will not collapse. Kids are not going to quit soccer because of their birthdate.

Anonymous said...

I find it funny because either system will have younger or older players.

What complainers blatantly fail to realize is that this system will mesh nicely with high school soccer.

In the current setup, you could have U14 teams with half the team playing high school soccer.

Just let it play out. If your kid is good enough, they will get taken care of. If you're on the bubble and worried about their age, then you must do what is best for their development.

Anonymous said...

1109 You are incorrect the newer system will not mesh nicely with high school as the current system is closer to school calendar. Unless you school system start Jan 1st. I know most of cut off dates for NJ, NY, PA start between Sept 1 and Oct 1st so Aug 31 only leaves a one month gap as the new system puts a 3 or 4 month gap.

Anonymous said...

@11:32 from yesterday. Nope. But, if your kid is in US Soccer Training and you can hold a conversation with parent, you tend to find out things.

9 players left SJEB, with 5 of those going to Bucks.
Interestingly enough, Bucks beat SJEB in the 2nd flight at Spirit.

Anonymous said...

I guess I'm still trying to wrap my head around the change since I didn't really think it was going to go through. Does it actually work out better though for the kid with the June/July birthday who has always been the youngest kid on the team because of the Aug 1- July 31 soccer cutoff who will now actually be in the middle of the pack from a calendar year perspective?

Anonymous said...

I think you'll find that most teams won't change their roster based on the birth year mandate by US Club. Our girls will be 02s or 03s meaning a successful team right now should be pretty competitive in an 02 environment. The age gap between a Jan 02 and Dec 02 is relative to what it was with an Aug 1st 02 and July 31st 03 player. So US Club saying it will be better for players development is a ridiculous rationale. Doesn't make any sense to change the system on the girls side, it's obviously working as the Womens team just won the World Cup convincingly! If they'd have got knocked out in the first round then i could maybe understand the need to change the system.

Anonymous said...

@1115 Why re-explore what happened to SJEB everyone knows of there separation this blog the poster was referring to Nova and Rage game and HMMS being as strong as they are. Who cares of knowledge of players flocking together to Bucks it's done move on.

Anonymous said...

if you don't change, the powerhouse clubs will get even stronger, because they will change and there is no way you can compete against them playing with a team playing half up, let alone even. Maybe you were the guy asking for proof and saying it would never happen, and now you believe tthe teams won't change. I feel sorry for some of the girls, many will lose starting positions, other will be moved to b teams at older age groups. The good news is, the other half will get new start and become starters on the A teams, or at least compete at a stronger level.

Anonymous said...

If sjeb lost all these girls, why doesn't the coach move them down a level or two at stars. Same thing for MF and wc, move down and don't waste others teams time and money. Where did the other 4 girls go? I assume with joe t at nova or did they move to rage? Many of them are 2002 and will be moving up with the Storm players next year. Maybe they get lucky and Mike o takes the 2002 team and keeps all 28 of them.

Anonymous said...

Wow 9 girls! I was wondering why they were in Flight 2 at Spirit. Losing 9 is a huge turnover good for them to still be competing as many teams that lose that many girls end up folding up as a team.

Anonymous said...

Well- they did lose a team because they had to combine the east and west together as one team. I heard talk during the tournament this past weekend that the age below lost a bunch of players recently so I wonder if they will end up doing that with that U12 age bracket and go from 2 teams down to 1. Somehow they are just not able to retain their top players long term.

Anonymous said...

Is this calendar year thing just for Club and Acad teams or is this for fall Highschool teams as well?

Anonymous said...

Does this effect reg travel teams that play in NOrthern counties league?

What about mcysa league, since they don't card through US Club?

Anonymous said...

1259 You should be using names on this blog!

Anonymous said...

http://www.momsteam.com/successful-parenting/athletic-success-accident-birth

Anonymous said...

@11:50 so what?
Sure i think anyone/everyone acknowledges this. But the change in age groups doesn't fix it.
It just shifts it. Now a different set of kids will be the youngest.
US soccer didn't help this in anyway - if they wanted to address that as a problem, they
should have looked at other options like 6month windows for the age brackets.
Now you've just shifted the problem to a different set of kids AND caused them to be less aligned with the kids they go to school with.
Makes no sense - ok, the rest of the world does it that way. But it hasn't harmed the women's side to this point so why do it that way when there are other drawbacks...

Anonymous said...

Is NJYS going to the calendar yr also?

Anonymous said...

106 Yes if it is NJYS is under Youth Soccer and their carding process is also so I assume they will follow suite after the instructions are carried out.

Anonymous said...

The problem with what US Soccer has done is that they've catered to the minuscule % of players who might benefit from going to calendar year (those at the National team level). But a lot of players who play on the same team as their best friends, or school friends who might have played for that main enjoyment factor will now find it difficult to do so. Meaning they are at a high risk of dropping out. Likewise the problem when one team graduates with half Seniors and half Juniors. What do those Juniors do for the remaining year when they turn to Seniors? A lot of teams will have to merge in the final year of soccer, of which some are still being recruited for College, placing them at risk of not being seen by their Colleges of choice.

I honestly do not see the advantages of changing the system.

Anonymous said...

Yes, but NJYS to totally different than US Club..

I haven't seen anything about NJYS going to calendar yr

Anonymous said...

Does this affect playing High school Soccer? (Varsity, JV, etc)

Anonymous said...

NJYS is directly affiliated with USYSA and USSF which both have adopted the changes. US Club has adopted officially.

I'm sure NJYS will follow along willingly.

Most larger clubs will probably want to make a switch earlier than later as they have the numbers and will allow them to seamlessly transition and win. Realistically, if clubs delay the change, if you have an '03 U12 or an '02 U13, and you know the current team will probably not play up to the oldest player, I would make the change as soon as is realistic. Don't want to be standing on the deck of the Titanic with no lifeboat.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone answer the H.S question? Im curious about that too....

Also, I have a May child currently playing U13. So according to the chart in 2016, she will still be a U13 next fall when she is in 8th grade, is that correct? If so, she'll play U13 then go straight into H.S, something doesn't seem right?

Anonymous said...

It has nothing to do with Highschool this is youth club soccer.

But as for the new calendar year for club this will help the cross play between 17,18 years at the club level because of some graduating from HS and others not. By that age they will be playing with multiple age groups anyway.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is an 03, going into 7th grade. Almost half her team now are 02's and are going into 8th grade. Now it will be the opposite effect, she will have girls that are going into 6th grade playing with her. It's just a realignment to national team standards. There will always be players that are 11 months apart in any scenario and a school grade apart. The only concern is if your daughter is a bubble 02, she will now have more competition to deal with moving to an older group team. And who are the posters to say what is better? that will remain to be seen. Maybe it will have a positive affect. If this is implemented next year, then U13 03's will be playing U13 again.

Anonymous said...

So what happens to the 02's who are now playing u13 and going into 7th grade? If they play with the 02's that are now going into 8th grade, the younger 02's won't have a team in the fall of their 8th grade year when the older 02's are playing high school.

Anonymous said...

826 2002 exactly have the same scenario well it's possible the 02's going into high school will end up playing club ball anyway and bypass high school freshman year unless they are selected for the Varsity team.

It is a trend of high schools are doing away with freshman teams and only doing JV and Varsity due to funding anyway.

Anonymous said...

@August 26, 2015 at 8:26 PM
This is what I am worried about. What will most teams do about that?

Anonymous said...

I had a discussion with my coach since she will go into HS next fall and advise when tryouts occur to move her up with the 01's and see if she can make that squad as the majority of players will be in HS and will not start training until after HS season is over. If not then she will have to play Club and HS next fall, but will limit her club's practice sessions until the HS season winds down.

Anonymous said...

if you're a top kid on a top club team, you'll deal with it because you want to play forever. you get crossed up in 2017 and whacked again when you go to high school the next year. but you accept it. the midpack and low pack kids on all those thousands of rec teams...they will quit. and all for what gain? what is the value? There isn't any. I challenge someone on this board to state a legitimate gain that might benefit more than the .005% of kids playing who are ECNL teams or national teams. And then i challenge how this change is really that more benefitial to them? don't EcNL girls play high school? rosters of 23, you'd think some might not risk it, but many great players do both especially those who want the extra exposure and social fun of it.

Anonymous said...

The only truly logical thought I have regarding this, other than trying to be like every other country in the world, is the RAE (Relative Age Effect).

My guess is that the powers in US Soccer want the early emphasis of the higher quality training going to the girls that are in the Olympic development calendar year cycle. Just a guess, but it makes some sense.

Otherwise, I do agree, many girls will quit soccer if not drawn in by the same grade social aspect. That is a shame.

Anonymous said...

Personally clubs and league need to push back as I see they will. To much change in a small window. A slow process of starting it at U8 born 2009 then gradually go from there. To change it in all age groups is just insane!

Anonymous said...

Teach them some resilience. If a changing soccer team roster is their biggest challenge of the year then it is a very good year!

Anonymous said...

3:29pm. Completely agree that it should be a slow change. Debatable they will do that though!

Anonymous said...

Hoe do you start at U8 or at any one year? Half the birth year kids will already be on teams and there will not be enough players for all the clubs to field teams.

The age groups must be set for all players at the same time so each age group has a 12 month span of players from which to field teams.

Anonymous said...

This is the best link i have seen highlighting the problems around changing to the birth year system

http://soccerparenting.com/2015/08/27/4-real-issues-to-consider-before-switching-to-birth-year-registration/

Anonymous said...

You'd like to think that clubs can push back and say no to US Soccer, that changing the system is not beneficial and in fact brings up more problems than it solves. But US Soccer won't listen and change their minds, unfortunately it's been planned out by them for a while and the "brains" of soccer in this country decided it was for the best and was the only way for the Country to compete at the highest level. Complete nonsense to change the system due to relative age effect, when the term "relative" is thrown in there then surely time is relative regardless when the start date is?

Why would a January start improve players more than an August start? It just moves the measuring stick to somewhere else. Why not start in May or in November? Scientifically it wouldn't matter when the start date is in terms of development, whatever that date is set as simply shows thats the oldest player, hence they should be more physically developed.

Countries in Europe still go by school year in terms of forming teams and they seem to know what they're doing given their success.

End of the day the change won't happen until the Leagues and Tournaments begin to announce when they will be making the switch. And the chances of everyone doing it at the same time are very slim. Recipe for disaster for a lot of clubs as if they do switch to birth year and find out that only 3 tournaments they were planning on going to are also making the switch then what are they going to do with the rest of their tournaments?

I think US Soccer has many questions to answer before they should move forward with this change.

Anonymous said...

It's over, decision has been made, time to deal with change.

Anonymous said...

Yup start looking at current roster, team above and team below. Gonna be circus the next 8 months. I personally cannot wait if my daughter is capable of playing with older kids I'm fine with it as she will need to face reality when she hits high school anyway.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but other countries are better with there youth is because there youth soccer players play everyday. It doesn't matter if it's in the street, a dirt parking lot or against a wall those kids are playing everyday. It's not until they hit the older ages like 13 - 19 they pace themselves to prevent injuries. That's how this country will get better none of this calendar or field change ideas. You will see a large drop of kids participating in soccer for the years to come due to this change.

Wake up US Soccer Women's soccer is successful don't change what is not broke.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but other countries are better with there youth is because there youth soccer players play everyday. It doesn't matter if it's in the street, a dirt parking lot or against a wall those kids are playing everyday. It's not until they hit the older ages like 13 - 19 they pace themselves to prevent injuries. That's how this country will get better none of this calendar or field change ideas. You will see a large drop of kids participating in soccer for the years to come due to this change.

Wake up US Soccer Women's soccer is successful don't change what is not broke.

Anonymous said...

Age change is not going to happen in 2016. Too many opposing it. Some you wouldn't expect like colleges. Everyone behind field changes but they have work to do to avoid a fight over the calendar change. Colleges have little clout with the Federation, but a lot of the clubs whose primary goal is college scholies. If they make the change compromise will be teams fielded by grade at the big clubs.

Anonymous said...

Funniest Comment I just heard, wow Japan just won the little league world series. USA hasn't won it in 4 years I think they need to change it to calendar year for baseball leagues. LOL

Even little baseball in US and international doesn't go by calendar.

Anonymous said...

Little league switched to calendar year just last year. They did it like a band-aid, quick rip. People complained at first but that noise quieted down very quickly.

This change will happen.

Anonymous said...

Clearly those panicked are those with the '02 birthdays, especially in clubs with powerful u14 teams. I've seen a lot of nervous parents on the sideline.

Anonymous said...

No little league is May 1 cutoff.

Anonymous said...

Little League is going to calendar year in 2017 or 2018
They are going to grandfather in some age groups

Anonymous said...

Nice job by the small sided teams that graduated to big fields at the STA tournament. They certainly held up very well on their own, and both went to a final.

Anonymous said...

No Little League goes by May 1, for 9 - 18 year olds. Calendar year for 4-8 year olds. Sorry they do it right! helps kids more likely play together in the same grade.
http://www.littleleague.org/Assets/forms_pubs/2015/Age-Chart-Baseball-Revised.pdf

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know anything about the u13 MFA pre ecnl team? I see they have a team, a decent size roster and 5 coaches listed
Why are they in the top bracket with such little playing history. Am I missing something?

Anonymous said...

The majority of the Matchfit team was Holmdel/NJX players I'm sure they probably pulled a few players from club their affiliations or spring tryouts. You can compare the NJX Roster on GS to the Pre-ECNL roster on ECNL's website.

They are top bracket because of the MF Club history and ECNL status it seems like it carries a long way. More and more top players will flock to ECNL which I wish wasn't so specific club restricted as there are many teams or players that can not endure the travel expenses they expect when you play for those clubs.

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