Matchfit is not in Jeff Cup... if Crush has to drop then it is a shame for those left behind. You can't blame the girls I don't believe they have car keys yet. Just a bunch of bad parents. watch your backs Match fit parents there is some serious poison coming your way... But not to worry they huddle in their own little click and if history repeats the girls will also be clicky. You can think of it astwo separate teams. Should really help boost moral for the Spring.
Try to not let the A-Gamers bring there losing ways with them. #1-31. Clueless. Can't wait to see what happens the first time one of them is not rostered for a match. 27 players now on that ECNL game 18 per game. Do they really think they are going make up almost a third of the roster each game? Good luck with that. Feels sorry for the MF parents.
Their not there dipshit!
Thanks for poInting out that typo. Maybe you did learn something at that Junior College.
if there are any quality players looking for playing time you should probably contact Crush - my guess is they are looking for playersI also understand that they can't represent NJ in the State Cup regional in June with any players that have participated on another State Cup roster one's loss is another's opportunity
the residual damage of the girls leaving:Crush has to pull out of Jeff CupCrush can't roster a team for Regional State Cup playCrush 8 girls left to find a way to field a teamMF roster for ECNL will be determined on a week by week basisMF current ECNL players to be bumped and lose playing time bc of 6 additional playersMF NPL players get bumped for ECNL players being moved aroundMF NPL team has rotating roster and some will not even be rostered for gamesis there anyone out there that still thinks this was ethical does anyone think the driver of this, AGAME guy, was looking out for ALL youth players that he was coachingno one argues that girls have a right to transition to higher level of soccer but in mass and right as the season is about to start
crush heat is out of Jeff cup which has to be upsetting for the girls. What will happen for their spring season? How can they play without enough players? The families who left really screwed over a bunch of innocent girls. Why couldn't this wait until after the spring season?
There is no way what they did can be viewed as ok. Anyone thinking that it is ok ask yourself if you would want your daughter to be on the receiving end of this.
Sad to hear about crush backing out of Jeff Cup. Not fair to the players left behind. Most of the blame should fall on Matchfit for causing this issue. They could have offered the spots for next fall. Not too surprising the Brits love to come to America to make money and blow smoke and lies up everyone's ass.
Blame US soccer. None of this happens without BYC.
Have crush fix this, any other club would. pda has 20 and 22 rosters, ask them for help. What about your partner CSA, can't they merge a team for you?
6:53 Such BSBlame the guilty parties!!!How about teaching your daughters right and wrong? You don't abandon your team mid season...period!!!!
@7:28 complete agree.Is anyone else a little bummed that the youth soccer ranking site is no longer available? I'm not sure how he developed the algorithm but I found it to be pretty accurate.
HUUUGE bummer.Only thing left is GS and it sucks
@ 7:28 completely agree with you on this. The guilty parties are the parents of the team that abandoned their other players. Lets face it all of these clubs are in business to make lots and lots of money, so who wouldn't roster half a team to bring in the revenue. It's sad and upsetting. I wish the remainder of the Crush team all the best of luck in getting it back together for the remainder of their season. Most of these girls will be going on to high school next year and this is their last year to play in some of the bigger tournaments and State Cup games as a team. Karma is a bitch...
If I had a kid on this team, I would be posting the family names over every social posting site there was, on what douche-bags the families are and what they did to their former club and teammates. It is really shitty...
And I would too...perhaps this blog is enough to bring to light the MFers too...Karma may bite them later in their career...as a coach, I'd be asking the player "as I look at your club history, why did you switch clubs mid-season?"
If you are so worried about state cup at this age, you even have bigger problems than not letting this go. State cup is a joke at this age, it's all rec teams....
11:41 then these are the years to get good results for GS easy points :)Hope to see your team as champions! Will they also win regionals?
Why does GS not rank all levels and leagues like ECNL and NPL? One would think if the point of the rankings is for tournament directors than why not ?
Rankings?????? The best teams in the state and country are not on GS rankings because they are ECNL. Where is PDA Galaxy and So Cal teams. This is some fat old pedophile sitting naked in front of his computer ranking 14 year olds. Y'all need help!
WOW 12:23 you need help and meds
No shit the best teams are ECNL. Simple question was why GS does not rank them since GS is widely used by most of the nations tournaments!
ECNL uses wins and losses and goal differential for ranking. It's very similar to the NCAA, MLS, NWSL, FIFA rankings. You don't get added points if you score a certain amount of goals or beat a higher ranked team. You earn a win or a loss or a tie (and the appropriate points 3 or 1) and your goals scored and goals against are used for goal differential. It is purely record/performance based.
Hey admin can we rename this blog crush whiner parents vs agame crush ditching parrents? And get this blog back on track and talk about other clubs that are on the brink other than crush like sdfc sta stallions copa etc.
GS awards points for a variety of reasons like achievement points, for goals scored, etc. For instance, here is some verbiage re Achievement Bonus Points: "Achievement Bonus Points are only awarded once per opponent in each competition. If you defeat the same team twice in the same event you will only receive achievement bonus points for the first victory." ?? very arbitrary. So, not a reliable ranking system.
13 brackets at Jeff cup and stallions are in the lowest bracket. is it really worth the bad weather, long drive and expense? What about the parsippany pride tournament cryer?
Last post....he doesn't coach U14
FYI....the youth soccer rankings site is back up
Just can’t get over the MF issue.In regards to the 6 girls and their parents: They left their teammates high and dry. Sadly, one of the parents is a teacher. I guess she does not teach ethics or teamwork. I feel bad for her students. Another parent also works for a school. He is the head coach for the St J’s men soccer team and he is also a good friend of the new Crush U14 coach. This is how he treats his “friend”.In regards to the Crush girls: The bad apples are gone. It is time to rebuild the team.In regards to the MF girls and parents: Good luck dealing with the new players and their parents. If things don’t go their way, they will leave any time. They have no problems leaving the team high and dry. How can you trust them?And in regards to DV: He promised not to contact any girls left on the Crush team. He did and tried to pressure a girl to leave. Big question mark on his integrity.
Wow. Talk about inethical putting real families names on this site. Crush flailing and failing. All teams falling apart. Hope your kid enjoys wasting 10 months.
I think the players were leaving anyway. The news of Cedar Stars taking over upset everyone. The firing of the coach they loved just made the decision easier to make. There will be a lot of shuffling around next year with players leaving to go to DA programs, and others to ECNL clubs. I guess leaving a club that wasn't helping your child, for a club that will be playing in the 2nd best league next year, kind of makes sense.
Amazing that DV and Matchfit would expose themselves to so much liability. DV had a job with Crush which required him to give his best to Crush, not diverting players and resources elsewhere under the guise that he was giving them his best. Seems in violation of either an implied or explicit agreement. Crush should have the balls to just file a claim, make it 300,000 maybe 400,000$ and make DV spend 4,5, to $10000 of his own money defending the suit. If you want to make someone pay, that's one way to do it. He did the same leaving Stallions to go to Crush. He'll do it again. And include MF in there as they induced the breach. They have the cash to pay and probably have a pile of emails to and from DV telling him to do it.
Why were they leaving anyway? Didn't they just have their first winning season ever? Didn't they win their first tournament ever? Weren't they playIng with two of the top U14 girls in NJ? What was the problem? Let's see how it plays out. Must be real difficult to be "put" on an ECNL roster that carries an unlimited amount of players. I think we are approaching 30. Will be interesting at tryouts when Average Game isn't controlling and manipulating it for his 6 girls. And to be clear some of them are good. They just weren't as good as some of the others that weren't Average Game trained. And that is were the problems began. Will be interesting times this spring.
Two of the top u14 in nj. Lol. The best 03 are on pda, mf,, and arsenal. One is pretty good. The other just fast no skill.
You are clueless. One of the girls has constantly been selected to numerous region 1 ODP events all over the country and I believe has been selected to represent our country in an event in Europe. The other is very good (the one Average-Game is still trying to get to leave). There is another U14 Crush girl on the other team who also has been selected to several region 1 ODP events. Notice how none of the Average Gamers have that status?Jealousy. Yes PDA has many outstanding players but there are many others out there. As for Match Fit just because you are in ECNL doesn't mean anything. You still have to go and play the game. Just like this past weekend when they tied Crush and got beat by SUSA. But you seems to know it all. Are you Jill Ellis?
ODP is dead.
Thanks for letting us know that Jill. Perhaps ODP will add style and flair to their curriculum. I heard FIFA is now going to award points to teams that exhibit the most style and flair in their play regardless of the games outcome. You continue to show how jaded you really are.
We have a comedian here. ODP lol. ODP trip to europe bigger lol. How much are you paying for that? Wait til you wake up and you realize that shes class of 2021 and not even in the top 50 in nj because all the best ones are playing u15. Lol. Joke is on you Mr. ellis.
You are delirious. You obviously feel the need to put down those kids achievements since none of your girls have been selected. Last time I checked it was an honor to be selected by US Soccer. And I believe US Soccer picks up the tab. Don't be a hater.
ODP=USYS not US Soccer
Are these kids at NTC and going to combine too? Must be, if they are best in state.
Why - every kid I know that goes to the NTC comes from the same few clubs. Very few clubs represented.
Maybe there arent that many good clubs.
If interest was shown across more clubs then more talented players would vie for spots - I think is what he is saying.
Some players shouldn't even be there. Just fast kids with no soccer IQ or great technique . Politics always rears its ugly head .
11:53 that is the definition of ODP player. ODP so outdated.
Unfortunately it also applies to a small magority of players in the NTC as well .
"Small majority" is not correct usage. You can't have a small majority. And, we should trust your soccer iq or iq in general?
So mfa ecnl roster is at 27 with one more being added for a grand total of 28 for spring!! Just hope the new families are clear that they only roster 18 players for ecnl games. That's 10 girls not getting to play each game. 10 girls!!
They will rotate players like other ECNL teams/clubs do. And, some will leave and some will stay. It's how it works out.
Is it another Crush girl going to match fit to bring the roster to 28?
@2:30That is very funny! My kid does play on this team but I can tell you first hand that this coach absolutely does NOT rotate the players. It will be the same players either not getting rostered or getting rostered and playing minimally or sitting on the bench the entire game. I love to watch my kid play but it is not easy to look at the bottomof the roster, say player 12 thru18 just sitting. Even my daughter hates seeing her teammates not getting the chance to play. If they told you that the girls would be rotated, then that's news to me because that is NOT how fall played out. Good luck to you crush families. Just be prepared
You are a dead give away. Ask yourself why everyone always leaves your teams and club? Maybe your part of the problem?
@4:45Believe what you want but my post is 100% true. Saw it all with my own two eyes.
Maybe MF is just preparing for the players who will be leaving for the DA teams. I bet you will see a bunch of these girls at both Cedar Stars and NYCFC's tryouts, and after May at the PDA tryouts
should be fun to see these parents reunite next year at some real clubs. MF and CRUSH are disasters.
No point to the NTC's. Once a month if that! Finally got one scheduled and it's going to be canceled due to weather again! DA is here now so I'm wondering if these will even happen anymore.
Doesn't even matter, NTC is too watered down anyway .
Based on the she believes it is too something. Get some different players in there.
They have already cut a bunch. The combine should be next month. not many make it and it's hard to tell who does.
109 - I can't follow?
When is the next NTC for Pa?
Was the prior soccer dominance of US women internationally based on lack of competition or on our fine system?
I think it is tonight or (was) tomorrow night. I don't think they will exist much longer with the GDA here. US scouts will be at DA games scouting for talent. It's a far better way to see players anyway.
True but they will be looking at the same pay to play players that were in the pricey high level leagues that came before the DA. Lots of good players there and lots not there. With a few funded exceptions, same show, different channel.
If scouts show to a game to watch, which they will, and a players skill is standing out it's undeniable that they will get noticed. With the TC a player has to hope for the coaches recommendation (which we all know coaches have favorites) and if your daughter has a bad session that one day out of the month, they could be cut. DA is definitely the better option for finding top players.
Ya, and the girls who make the combine don't deserve it either. The coaches only pick their favorites here too.Is the nt still going on? I thought it ends around now and the transition out the 2002 and the combine coming up is the last one for this age group.
Nothing about NT dates or combine posted anywhere.
2002s are done in June.
Combine is in April, last one.
Yes, last one for this year. The list is narrowing.
Not correct, last year for 02 girls. 03 will transition out next year.
Where is combine? Have players been notified?
Is that the ID2 event next week? Yes, notifications went out.
How will they select for the April combine if March TC doesn't even happen because of weather once again.
They probably already know who they are inviting.
Why would they cancel, I don't remember many they did? They also did indoors all winter. Was nice and close for us south jersey ones. Next one should be at Monmouth and they didn't get snow. Not sure if they will do this one, the combine is in April in CT. If they don't, the 02 girls are phased out and will be 03/04 focus next year.
Canceled. Why? Not everyone lives near Philly. Roads still suck. That's why. Combine choices will be interesting since they haven't had a TC in months!
They don't cancel, they just don't have one. They only give you a few days, maybe a week notice when they do have them. Sounds like you didn't get invited back. Happens to many kids, this is how they decide. Starts with about 45 per age group and goes down over the year. A few get added too. Ends with combine. Should happen in April or early May.
Are you talking about the pa NTC?
What? That was just confusing.
Let me understand. Your kid didn't get invited to combine and you are blaming NTC for canceling session? I don't believe the NJ NTCenters cancelled any. Maybe my kid didn't get invited because they saw her to much. Is that an excuse?
Rumor has it that Matchfit is merging with Cedar Stars. I guess Matchfit won't be putting their top players in the ECNL after all. So much for "all in"
No way, really?
I haven't been on here in awhile, but I would like to ask what you all think of the move by Liverpool FC into South Jersey (Delano)?
CSA is making inroads into North as well as NYE. Match Fit will stay ECNL and Bergen Girls will be the other DA team. How do you think these girls got their US Club cards transferred between clubs so fast? The only person unaware of this is the old coach it seems and a couple of angry parents.
What are you talking about?Bergen girls, really? Sounds like another start up idea that will crash and burn like all the others.Bergen Bulldogs sounds like a good name.
What fields in Bergen will the Bergen Girls be using?
North field, the crown jewel. Luv playing on it.This will be a complete flop - just go to PDA of NYSC and stop wasting your money.
...and how's PDA doing at Jeff Cup?
PDA such an embarrassment! No depth whatsoever.
Who is playingShore? South?
all pda teams except for galaxy (not playing) are sucking big air today. hope that pda rethinks that DA/ECNL combo and sticks to where they belong.
Where is that?
South Shore Select winning in top bracket this far @ Jeff Cup. I'm not sure if that's the team you were looking for.
Love it, now crush is ripping on PDA. Who is next? I thought you guys couldn't play because you lost your team?
Crush U14 and older teams are now called Cedar Stars bergen.
Wildcats team moved to Cedar Stars as a whole team, so what's the big deal PDA Shore players move to Cedars Stars as well?
I have a few questions that hopefully someone can answer. Tryouts are coming, and I would love to have the answers before we make any decisions on where to tryout.1) If what people are saying about the Matchfit/Cedar Stars/Crush relationship is true, how would anyone in their right mind stay at any of those clubs? A NJ Crush team was decimated to move girls to the Matchfit ECNL team, my guess, to prepare for the Cedar Stars 17-18 DA team. If this is true, how is anyone ok with the fact that the remaining Crush girls now do not have enough players?2) How does Matchfit get to keep ECNL if all of their "top players" will be going to Cedar Stars DA? Unless of course, this is Matchfit's devious plan to get back at ECNL for blocking their entrance into ECNL for so long3) How do they use North Field to play at when that is a college field used by not only the college, but other clubs as well. Aren't DA games played back to back? That would mean you would need to block an entire day of games on a field that you have no control over
NYSC is best option by far for girls from north. WC is great ecnl back up.
If you have a serious question - call the owners of Match Fit or Crush or Cedar Stars. No one answer from this forum will be right - or probably even informed. Other than few rogue coaches you are talking to gossipy parents that have no clue in the first place or are just trying to bullshit everyone for the fun of it.
Looking at the results of the Jeff Cup and the brackets that teams were placed in makes me wonder if people have completely lost their minds. Why would you pay for hotel expenses, possible flights or wear and tear of your car to spend a weekend at a meaningless tournament. Unless your team is in the top bracket what do you gain from this. You could play some of the same teams locally to your own area for a fraction of the cost. Totally pointless just to get got soccer points.
We got home at 9 last nightAgree and never want to go back8 hours down Friday
What happened to Susa NPL don't see their parents bragging on the blog now. They thought they were all that after the Manhatten kickoff but apparently they didn't eat their Wheaties before the games. Those "Larry the Lobster" dads from that team should have got them to the gym before the games. Must have been a long drive home for them.
@10:28 PF parent???
A lot of make up games coming up. Has anyone played any league games yet?Between tne weather and Jeff cup, we are three weeks/5 games behind.
Judging by the posts, some teams went to Jeff Cup and choked.Why downplay the tournament bc your team did poorly?
You were going to play here this past weekend, 10:28? Where?
10:50 - why would you think? I'm not that poster, but PF was in top bracket. This is someone complaining about travel, expense and team wasn't in it. So???
3:40 you are absolutely correct. Been there done that tournament two years in a row. Penn Fusion was in the top bracket and I totally agree that this was a great way to get some playing time before the regular season for some of these top clubs. Most of the clubs in the top brackets don't even have standings in the Got Soccer rankings because they play ecnl. But to drive all that way to be in the bottom or next to the bottom bracket seems pointless to me unless you have the money to burn and want to spend your weekend on a soccer field. Being in The classic or premier bracket is nothing more than a total waste of money. This blog kills me that you cant post a comment without someone assuming that you are a parent from a specific club.
So your daughter plays with multiple non specific clubs?😀
CSA Monmouth is currently a US Development Academy for all age groups for the boys and will be for girls in the fall. They are partially completed with construction on a multi million dollar state of the art facility in Tinton Falls that will host a variety of USSF events including market training and potentially national team camps. CSA Bergen will use the Pennigton Park Complex in Paterson as their base facilty. CSAs parent Capelli is spending $2mm to turf the 2 grass fields and will have use of the fields 4-10 pm on weekdays and 4-7 pm on Saturdays and Sundays. With this facility they will continue to have the USSDA U15 and below for boys with the possibility of adding girls in the fall of 2018. CSA will be joining the ECNL and the announcement will be made when the second round of membership is announced. The ECNL boys teams will come from CSA Newark (St. Benedict's Prep) and the ECNL girls teams will be CSA Bergen (formerly NJ Cush U14 and above). ECNL will be the go to league for both boys and girls who want to play high school soccer. It's what St. Benedict's and NJ Crush need to complete their offering. CSA Newark and Bergen will continue to use Overpeck Park, St. Benedict's, Ironbound, NJIT, Rutgers Newark, FDU, and Ramapo for both training and matches. Cedar Stars is not buying, merging, or doing any alliances with Match Fit Academy.
Making a ecnl pre announcement?
With what players. All good players from crush just left for match fit.
9:04 So what your saying is that ECNL is now making exceptions for a club that has not produced any quality teams on their stance of not having both ECNL and DA?
Ecnl is changing their stance, they are second tier now.
@ March 20, 2017 at 10:00 PM - All the good players that left were so GOOD that they NEVER were successful before the fall 2016 season. Not as Stallion or as Crush players. FAC. They can keep changing clubs but the results speak for themselves. #1-3. Check your facts.
3:57 - I agree. Why do it? Surely there is something closer to you (where ever that may be). In particular at U14, it is more worthwhile for the girls to get training instead. There should be less tourneys at this age and more training. Start the tourney craziness at U15 with a few and increase it at U16. Would help our wallets for sure.
You guys don't understand the importance of playing these tournaments to get placed for following year as college showcases become the place to be. If your team is bottom and will perform poorly then don't go, you're correct there.Of course if your daughter has her sights on DA then these tournaments are the last year for her to play.Ever consider talking to coach or DOC and express your disdain for the tournaments?I have an older daughter---playing Jeff Cup and other tourneys and placing well helped them place in a better position for Disney...where coaches were swarming the sidelines.
9:04 PM may be jumping the gun a little bit. First we are hearing of Cedar Stars and ECNL for this fall.
Why is it that PDA u14 ecnl plays so little?
Based on the 9:04 poster ECNL will be at Bergen for CSA. Not buying that fabrication. ECNL made their picks if there is a second round of acceptances I would bet on a more central or southern county being represented. Already represented in NJ is Mercer, Morris and Somerset county.
Also with WC on the border on Rockland/Bergen, they are basically there already. If anyone thinks that ECNL has accepted that they are "2nd Tier", then you actually have not a clue about what is going on in girls youth soccer. This is all smoke and mirrors so that Matchfit can try to pull off a merger behind ECNL's back.
10:54 pm. Your kids were never successful either. Maybe by combining two decent old 03 teams together and having all the good teams not play state cup you were able to win a meaningless trophy. State cup is a joke and no one thinks that team was better than a b+ team.
I hope cedar stars knows what they are getting into with crush. I have never seen this team or club play, but they own this board and my older daughters two years ago.
@ March 21, 2017 at 10:31 AM - Keep putting down their accomplishments. Jealous. You weren't saying that when you were the coach of the team that won before you got fired. Your statement only makes those others kids look worse since they struggled win at even a lower level of competition. You are entitled to your opinion. The facts are the facts. How did the Heat (former Stallions team) do the year before in the meaningless, no good teams are entered - State Cup. LOST in first round. That speaks volumes. What teams were put together? The age group changed.
I already posted I dont think Cedar - Bergen will get ECNL for this yearBut I disagree that WC being so close will give ECNL pause to give a Bergen affiliate a go.There are just so many talented players in the Bergen area. And some that will come in (already are) from NY state as well.
Imho no way csa gets ecnl unless they purchase mfa. No way ecnl puts a team in direct comp with those teams. Also there are already 14 teams in division. Only way they put another in is down south.
CSA has ugly uniforms.
7:50 - I have an older daughter too (verbally committed). We compete in ECNL so don't need these tourneys at all. And, yes, I have expressed my views. Not distain at all I think they are great, but unnecessary for ECNL. Once GDA kicks in, no more! Yipee.
If daughter is ECNL, I agree with you.
Wrong, these are showcases and Jeff cup is one the top ones. Look at next week and how many PDA teams will be there. Ecnl doesn't give you are free ride.
Not sure what the free ride comment means. Jeff Cup isn't free either (entry fee, ref fees, travel, housing, etc.). So, while PDA may be there, plenty of other ECNL teams sit it out. Many of the older ones are going to Phoenix in a week or so for an ECNL showcase event. They don't want to be dinged up for those. It's not only a showcase, but the games are considered league games and count while the Jeff Cup games do not.
Not showcase at U14...which this blog is.Hence my comment earlier...Jeff Cup is very much worth the ride to perform well and place for future acceptance and showcasing.ECNL teams can go if they want but they market themselves as "the best" and they don't need the "non-ECNL" showcases
ECNL is set for 17/18 season. The person who wrote that has some insight, but that part is wrong.
What part is wrong? I have kids in several age groups including this one, in ECNL. Many ECNL teams do sit out Jeff Cup, in particular the older ones that are scheduled to appear in Phoenix in a few weeks. Those games, in Phoenix, are ECNL league games and count as championship qualifiers whereas Jeff Cup games do not. Once the GDA kicks in, probably many more ECNL teams will make an appearance at various tournaments like Jeff Cup, WAGS, etc. These are very good tourneys and it would be great to see them continue to get more teams that apply. They are part of US youth soccer history.
For ECNL teams U14 and older there isn't a reason to do WAGS or Bethesda. For the most part, ECNL teams doing Jeff Cup are only there so the players that need extra looks from college coaches get them. Many ECNL teams U16 and older don't even bring players to Jeff Cup that are already committed. The structure of the 3 day 3 game showcase format works well. The top showcase events are the ECNL national events for college coaches. ECNL Sanford, ECNL AZ, ECNL NJ and ECNL playoffs draw the most coaches. CASL Showcase during a Final Four year is also a good recruiting event.Jeff Cup, Bethesda, Disney, Vegas, Surf Cup and CASL (during a non Final Four year) are good recruiting events, but don't get the turnout of the ECNL national events.
I believe @8:51 's post was referring back to the comments about cedar Stars Bergen becoming an ECNL CLUB. Seems to be a lot of confusion about the Cedar Stars /crush merger and if MFA has any part in it.
Correct, I was referencing that. I understand the ECNL teams and programs well. The reason they don't play as many games is philosophical. They believe in a training/game ratio and adhere. Additionally, ECNL is expensive on families and coaches and parents have no interest in the extra travel. ECNL requirements are tough enough. It was good to see new alignment. Jersey teams have less travel. No trip to Western NY, and no extra possible trip to Boston or Philly. One added trip to Maryland. ECNL will stay very strong until DA proves it's viable. I know quite a few DA caliber kids who won't even be trying out.
Number one reason teams do Jeff cup and others is for tournament quota. If you are charging people full boat for half seasons, parents expect to play in 3 or 4 tournaments. Parents of 8th through 11th grades are expecting these until the team has all committed.
I know a few that think they (or their parents think) they are DA cailber too that aren't trying out. Reality check. They really aren't DA caliber. Sometimes it's better to think the grapes you can't reach are sour.
Ans you are the best judge of this?
For Matchfit's sake, I hope they aren't teaming up with Cedar Stars. They will lose ECNL and then have nothing at all...OOPS, not true, they will still have the boys ECNL
Starting to doubt that rumor.
CSA doesnt need MFA.. They are doing quite well. Im hearing many MFA parents are getting nervous. Big roster!!
Crush and A game must scare a lot of people and clubs with all the talk any publicity is good publicity!!
Juvenile coaches who think the sun rises and sets on them, so selfish in chasing the dollars they walk from a team mid-season or violate their agreements with their current employers and recruit for another club while still hired elsewhere. And what amazing credentials do these masters of the soccer universe possess? Average quality player at below average college program. All the bullshit and nonsense and ultimately its just about the money and their wallets, the rest is smoke and mirrors. Same with these clubs who claim they are better than the rest and sell out when someone writes them a check. It's called selling out now matter how you describe it otherwise. Crush and AssGame do not scare anyone! They make people sick. The kids solid kids, but they are just players and without real training, 900 scissors in a row wont mean crap to a college coach, and none of it will matter a few years thereafter when the kids end their soccer fun. You cling to crap, don't be surprised when you too get flushed down the drain!
@12:52 amLMAO, "You cling to crap, don't be surprised when you too get flushed down the drain!"Thanks, this cracked me up
2:31Love that metaphor, I need to use it...
1252 - so you are now throwing CRUSH in the same boat as agame?
Kids leaving MFA due to huge roster.. It all about the money folks..
Where are they going? Big clubs are not the place for every kid and they all carry rosters of that size. I agree the 50 or so kids on two rosters is a bit large, and I would guess that will get down to about 22 on each team for the fall and even sooner if kids depart. I hope nobody is leaving during the season. Only 2 months left. Good luck to you if you are speaking about yourself.
They are not leaving, just the crush parent hoping. Sounds like he threw his own club under bus too. About time.
@8:40Who are you trying to kid!? No one is leaving mfa. Everyone is still showing up for practice and riding this shit show out! Trust me, I wish people will leave, but where would they go?! All these clubs at this level will have a huge roster. It's All about the almighty dollar!
New CSA facility is impressive and I was told in the summer there will be additional fields across the street. Brought my kid for a training session and thought they were giving away crack. Tons of kids in the freezing cold. Noticed some wearing MFA & Copa gear? Worried this club is spreading themselves too thin and not enough quality coaches. Was told tryout schedule for next year will be posted on their website soon.
My daughter would never consider wearing that ugly a$$ uniform. PDA has a nice uniform, great color and the girls wear it proudly. Say what you want, but it matters to us mothers and daughters, just like all our other attire.
What I want to say is using the color or appearance of a uniform to choose a club or team is a terrible reason. Coaching talent or style, level of competition, cost, location, environment are important. Uniform color is not important.
My daughter is going into H.S in the fall. I will be looking to put her in a new club. Any suggestions in the Bergen/Passaic/Morris region? I was thinking of WC, SDFC or STA. Any other suggestions?
12:52. What level soccer are you seeking for your daughter. I would suggest to stay away from Matchfit they already have 30 girls rostered on their ECNL team and when they roster for games the girls left on the bench get to go down and play for the NPL team. So that just pushes those girls out of the way.Personally SDFC is overated and expensive for what you get. If your daughter is okay with playing with girls that don't feel the need to participate in any practices or constantly take vacations during important games then this is the club for you. Coach is a miserable person and definitely has his favorite players and parents. Crush is merging with Cedar Stars and will be offering a Bergen county team for the fall of next year. New coach coming to them from another club that has been very successful over the years.If you are seeking a good team that is not in the ecnl level then my suggestions would be1. NJ Crush/ soon to be Bergen Cedar Stars2. NJ Stallions has produced some very competitive high school teams.3. STA is an okay club but very pricey as well.The bottom line they are all pricey. But you don't always get what you pay for on most of them.
Depends on what is important to you. Cant just give you a club not knowing your specifics.I'd send her to three different tryouts. minimally - and pay attention while there.
There is a lot of crazy stuff going on this age group. 6 players from Crush leave to go to a saturated roster at Matchfit. Coach from Clarkstown leaving his team to go to Crush, hoping they will follow him. Lots of instability with clubs right now. My suggestion is as 1:46 says, go to a few tryouts. Most clubs will also let you tryout during a teams training session as well, even though they do not advertise that. If you know players at other clubs talk to them. U15 is an important age
12:52pm. Look at the coach, the style of play of the team, the amount they do for the money you pay, the roster size, the track record the coach has of putting players into college for soccer. Attend some training sessions before tryouts and it will work itself out. There aren't a huge amount of competitive teams in the area so your selection is small.There is only one coach at Stallions who has placed players in College and his style has a lot to be desired. He doesn't coach the 03 age group and this current age group for Stallions is not strong.SDFC have little to no history of placing female players into Colleges. And rumor has it the SDFC 03s are close to falling apart. A good little team though.STA just had a large amount of Seniors commit to Schools. A little more expensive than others though. Again a good team.The Crush/CSA merger will be interesting. Not sure what to expect there but with the Clarkstown coach growing to Crush i suspect some players may follow. Tough to know what to expect from Crush this Spring given all the changes.MF. They've been spoken about far too much and have a football sized roster.
Hadnt heard about the Clarkstown coach. Didnt he have a great team there? Why did he leave?Maybe this was after the C Stars thing was announced and he was hired ahead of the mad rush....Heard Crush was keeping all staff in place as Cedars staff, by the way.
He had a good team. Lost quite a few last year. Haven't heard why he left, but it was abrupt. The guy is a legend in his own mind though
Realistically what level of player is your kid. Of her previous teammates that have left, what club and team are they on. If you live in Morris, MFA is the best club even though they get killed here. Top team is ECNL and 2nd team plays at the same level as the other's top teams. When MFA is done with their upgrades, the ECNL team is going to be very good, and the NPL team will be competitive at their level. Put your kid where she can succeed.
6:02pm. "2nd team plays at the same level as the other's top teams" Hahaha. What?!You do realize they are 2nd from bottom in their league with 2 wins and 10 losses? 10 goals scored and 36 conceded. Yes that's definitely on par with the SDFCs and STAs. Clearly your opinion counts for nothing if you believe that the MF 2nd team is the same level as others in the area.
CRUSH doesn't have any decent coaches, that's why every year, all the top players leave.They are a overpriced regional club. CSA will do nothing for them. It's like PDA shore, except they get nice Nike uniforms.
Do all those teams play in the NPL? I am not passing judgement on the merits of each team, just pointing out that they are all NPL teams. Also too late for this year, what do you think those teams will look like at U15-U18?
NPL is dead. You play there, you are third level down.
Most ECNL clubs NPL teams are weaker then the clubs that play in the NYCSL NPL league. Fact been in both. Kids that don't play on the ECNL level would prefer to be on the A team of an NPL club. And to clear up CS and ecnl. The plan is 2018/2019 season. Cedar Stars has tons of financial backing hence why they are building great facilities and received DA. They will likely end up eating up MF and take over northern NJ talent. Money and facilities leads the way in this money driven sport.
Clarkstown was great at u13 but that coach not a good development coach. Who cares if he goes to crush. Just one more reason not to go not to mention the 3k price tag for B- soccer and training. Lost top 6 03s and lost top 3 02s recently. Sdfc is in great dispair. All their better players have been at other practices. That club might be out of business very soon. Coach is an A$$ and not good at developing kids. STA a nice less intense club. stallions if your kid can play for SC and survive she will be better for it. arsenal max good trainer intense would be playing up with other top 03. Mfa if she is good enough to start will be playing and training with a lot of good girls. WC next best if shes good enough for ecnl. But realize weak track record for colleges. pda if she can
10:27 Good analysis. I did hear Arsenal Coach has moved on to a new club. Also, with the mess MFA is having, I would put WC behind PDA
3:15SDFC has 2 Villanova commits and a Vermont commit for class of '18
I'd look real hard at Cedar Stars - Bergen (NJ CRUSH)Coaching roster is supposed to remain stable, which puts Montclair State coach (underrated) at the helm of the '03s (as well as his '01s)
Changes in this age group are happening faster than this board can keep up with! Maximus (older kids), and Clarkstown on the move?If you are serious about changing a club don't just attend tryouts. Contact the coach, attend couple of practices, talk to the coach, talk to your kid. Figure out how much play time you will get and where and ask yourself if your kid wants to do that change.
What is the difference between NYCSL NPL, northeast NPL and EDP NPL?
as the girls go to u15 high school range do most clubs train at all during the fall? when do they usually start up the winter training? how many times per week do most train during the winter and then spring, and what kind of money do most programs cost? I was looking at my current club and there isn't much difference between the u14 and the u15 costs and yet they don't do too much over the fall. I couldn't get a great answer, but I'm just curious since its a lot of money. its a couple of grand every year, does it ever stop!!!! ;))
For the most part, everything costs a lot more for the older teams. Tournaments increase dramatically at U15 as they are now "showcases". Coaches get paid more $ at my club, because they are traveling farther for games and tournaments. They are also responsible for contact with colleges for players looking to pursue college careers. Referee fees practically double at the older ages too, and depending on which you play in, leagues require refs of higher licensing levels to ref. Also, most HS teams start up in late fall, so your only missing 2 months. Our club starts full training in late October with our first tournament in November.
@6:42 - how do you figure out how much playing time you will get? would be great if you could do that, but realistically how is that even possible?
You can find out her roster ranking. Top 6, middle or bottom 6. Knowing rank should give a realistic idea of expected playing time.
Like i said if she can be top 6-9 on mf its a good place. Dont want to be bottom 15. That should all take shape next 3 weeks people will know where they stand.
The Cedar Stars owner is close to obtaining a full girls development academy for the Bergen Divison. Based on the population density the the USSF sees no issues. They had previously offered one to the NY Red Bull's (said no) in Whippany at the same time as LA Galaxy (who said yes). The coach movements to CSA Bergen are related to this as well as Capelli is helping to set up a performance center in New Jersey for the USSF National Coaches School to make it easier for Coahes to attain their A license which is required for all DA coaches. CSAs owner is working very closely with the USSF in many fronts. Announced today he just took a majority stake in the Harrisburg City Islanders USL pro team. USSF wants to make the USL the US Professional Division II with eventual promotion and relegation with the MLS. http://www.uslsoccer.com/news_article/show/773571?referrer_id=2333971#.WNU7MHnmAOs.facebook
This breaking credar stars news is exactly why DA will be garbage. Already too many teams to be truly elite. Its all about the $$$$. Not about development. Go to the clubs that get you into college.
Go PDA. 'Nuff said.Go to any tournament and see if they even recognize CSA, MF, SDFC, STA, Blah blah blah.
Sticking with ecnl. GDA is a distaster, a power - money play. All about getting into college and having fun.
How much were they charging you for DA, 8:21?
Not confirmed, but said about the same as ecnl. Don't care about the money, I care that they care.
5.5K+ for most girls DA. Does not include travel. Figure all in 10K.
9:47 What club is charging that? That is way off the price I got
Screw all the fancy training! Why pay all that money when you can play for Liverpool. Lololololol what a joke bet no one shows for try outs this weekend.
More helpful would be to post what cost you got and from what club.
I'm sure you will be there and we all know who you are.
Max/Aresnal coach going to NJ Stallions in fall. NJ Stallions 02 and 03 will be strong next season.
Where did you hear CSA will have DA in Bergen CO?
11:39 There won't be a DA in Bergen. NYCFC has the area. They are not going to upset one of the few MLS clubs that is investing in the DA. Maybe in the future, but definitely not now
Max coach is hard a$$ trainer and girls will be in great shape. They won't have any fun with him. Most important, he can't help during the critical recruiting years. Not good timing if you want college.
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