Yes PDA controls NJ, don't blame them they are name brand and as any top level company they monopolize it. Smart and keeps the true good players together in the later years.
Not really possible to rank them unless you define what you mean by best. Most competitive, treats lower level players well, best value? Everyone is looking for something different.
IMO best in this instance should be competitive at all age groups from U11-18 as well as playing an attractive style of soccer. Some teams/clubs are competitive but kick the ball and run which is a short term way of playing to get immediate results.
Could rage be in top bracket at PDA? Sure, but should be fine in second. Looks like they tied nova who is in second bracket and beat crew by 2 who is in 3rd bracket, crew also tied nj rush who shouldn't be in first , but I'm sure they saw the points and the fact that they have been playing 11v11.
There are no other clubs yet in nj that are worthy of ecnl. Would love to see an alternative in the north, but to many start up clubs diluting the talent. These are all money makers for the UK boys. Sdfc, stallions, tsf, IGFA, crush and many others are just as expensive as pda and WCFC, or more. Winter training, travel to tons of tournaments and cost for feild rentals can take these clubs cost well above an ecnl club. The south has great talent too, maybe nj rush can pull it off - will take time. Feilds are much easier to come by in the south and that's very important with ecnl. You need to be able to host entire clubs play in a day.
Cherry hill 2-2 igfa .... Cherry hill we should have won .
Why should Cherry Hill have won? Did the parents cry again?
Cherry hill we played better. Should of beat njx and igfa dominating at them. Lucky we didn't win both, we have one of best teams right now.
Diluted talent could have its advantages. Its like old fashion schoolyard ball. The chosen captains divide up the talent pick by pick. Then they can have a competitive game in the school yard instead of traveling all over creation.
@April 12, 2015 at 11:18 PM My guess, you are NOT a CH parent. Stop making their parents look more of a mess and trying to stir up this blog. No one wants your lying comments here.
It probably is a Cherry parent this is what there known for. If they don't win they keep making excuses.
I'm calling it now Rage beats Cherry Hill Saturday @ PDA tourney.
I heard a rumor that Cedar Stars owner is going to attempt and get ECNL status. He's going to grow the girls program just like the boys. He has connections everywhere, along with the $$
Funny how quiet the blog gets when the barons lose and rage and nova tie....................
Again someone stirring the pot. Nova Barons, Rage, Cherry Hill all good teams representing the south. You are just parent that has kid that can't cut it on one of these. teams. Cherry Hill comments are so chi6ldest. Respect that they are competing at the leave for coming from a town level.
Cedar Stars is what? Nothing at this age group. Probably the owner posting that trying to lure girls that can't get onto any of the top teams in the state.
Cedars Stars on the boys side is a USDA same as PDA and MatchFit boys. Only makes sense they apply for ECNL and remember they partnered with NJSA so I can see them as the 3rd ECNL NJ club. And yes they have a lot of wealthy backing and are affiliated with the new NY MLS team that plays out of Yankee Stadium. They also are very heavy giving players scholars that come from inner city families that can't afford the academy lifestyle. Would make a very interesting and powerful club in NJ to compete vs PDA and MatchFit.
I'm always amazed at the depth of knowledge about various clubs from people not affiliated with those clubs. Thanks random stranger for your in depth explanation about Cedar Stars, a club you have no relationship with. While I'm giving thanks, thanks to the non-Rage parent for attesting to the entire Rage teams parents upstanding pedigree and assurance they not only don't blog, they are immune from the posts levies at them. You must be quite observant to ascertain all of this as a parent of a child who happens to play them on occasion.
1058-My eldest son play's at Matchfit so my son sees Cedar Stars a lot thus the only reason why I know plenty about them. They are gaining popularity up here. Sounds like you are from the south based on your comments.
11:22: Sure he does. And you're on the u12 girls blog for what reason? Let me guess, your daughter just happens to play on a high level team that isn't Cedar Stars, but will surely join them once they become ECNL.
1155- My daughter is at U12 and is currently on a town team and I'm looking to move her soon. Not sure where as she has spent time at a few training sessions and will attend there tryouts. My suggestion if u12 to u13 is the perfect age to transition to a club team.
Nj rush doesn't have a single coach with a high enough license to be in ecnl. Let's be serious. And the director in central has crazy sideline behavior, yelling and screaming or that's maybe the south, I'm not sure. Anyway, no chance of ecnl. Rush is nation wide, but only a few are actually good clubs in terms of developing players. Delaware is way better and they will never get encl. Plus facilities are horrible and would need to be better. Nj rush is just a cash cow, same money for average result. Keep dreaming on. Would love to see sjeb
Again PDA controls NJ's ECNL decisions!
FC Bucks pre-ECNL tryouts tonighthttp://eliteclubsnationalleague.com/home/871135.html
re cedar stars. im not cedar stars but they are for sure a growing presence in centralish-north to north jersey soccer. maybe just 2,3 years since inception. they show a really solid brand of soccer and as noted, give out a lot of scholarships to help those who dont have the monies. i respect what they are doing a lot. i have no idea about ecnl or npl or whatnot, but they seem to really love the game, and have great kids, and make it affordable for those who cant afford these academy things. good for them.
When do GS points drop off? Is the normal time frame 1 year after event?
Tryout time ! What's the hot club to tryout for ? I'm hearing Rush/Rage. Any body with any knowledge out there ?
I heard there was a ton of girls at Rage/NJ Rush tryout this weekend. Can anyone confirm?
Many trying out for MF pre-ECNL. Any state cup games this week?
Tsf v nj stallions academy tonight Tsf will advance easy
@950. Tsf will advance? Really? Have you seen stallions record. I think you have another thought coming.
So what's the deal are Maximus and world-class together? If so when are their tryouts?Copa also has tryouts coming up.
Maximus tryouts..• Monday April 20th 6 to 7:30 pm, and,• Thursday April 23rd 6 to 7:30 pm Promoting it still as Maximus....so not sure what the story is. I know everthing maximus is changing to WCFC
at Superdome in Waldwick
Barca PSG @ 3pm today. do something productive and put the kiddies in front of the TV. going to be hectic!
Matchfit, PDA taking on large rosters...20-25 players. It's all about the $$$$ and less playing time for the players and long travels to games. WOW! Is this a scam?
PDA south will be carrying 18 players and 2 goalies, just so nobody is on here spreading misinformation as a way to retain players on their own club.
My daughter is a very good, competitive player in Monmouth County, and I don't want to do the whole elite club thing, it's too big a time/$$ commitment.What good clubs do the wise folks on this board recommend?Best of luck to you all.
Monmouth united soccer
Where is Monmouth United based? What league do they play in? Thanks.
Monmouth United is a rec league team. They're not registered on gotsoccer. Joke. Try a big town like freehold, middletown or toms river or manalapan.
April 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM has it about right. 18,19 and 2 keepers, unless my iphone calculator is wrong is 21ish. wow, that is a ton!$50000 per team in revenue.yes, they are in the business because of soccer, but rest assured it is big business. what other possible reason would cause a u13 squad to have 22 players?
I'd rather have my daughter training on a team with a good amount of talented players than with a team with half good talent have not and several players not showing up to practice because of other activities ect..
Tsf parent here--Thought I would go out of my way and mention that the stallions coach showed a class act tonight. You dont ever see that. Fair play
What did the stallions coach do ?
Totally agree with the above poster. Stallions vs tsf was meant to be played at 8pm. Typical tsf, no refs showed up to the game. Game didn't kick off until 9:15. Yes, 9:15pm. An hour and 15 minutes past the actual kickoff time. Any other coach would have accepted the forfeit right after the 30 minutes with the refs not showing up and gladly moved on to the next round of state cup. Tsf won 2-1 in the last few minutes of gameThat shows a lot of character about the coach
Monmouth United is a complete joke. It was a league that was started after someone's kid wasn't good enough to play on Middletown. Complete waste of time
Funny come to see my post already deleted? May I ask why??????? All I said was if I was stallions coach I would have forfiet to prove a point that the tsf club is a joke. This would hve been Three times in a row this coach ruined state cup for his team. How lucky can that team be to not play vs a coach who is clearly not about tht
Home team does not forfeit if refs are a no show. The game simply gets rescheduled at the oppositions home fields. Read the website.
6:15am. Your post indicates that you aren't a TSF parent with your "typical TSF" line. So either you're a Stallions parent, which i doubt, or more likely the coach himself trying to clear his whack job image.Agreed regarding TSF though, they are an unorganised bunch but we have all had refs come late to games before. Just last week our refs showed up 30 minutes late as they were at another field 5 minutes down the road thinking that's where the game was.
Why were the refs so late ?
tsf is known for that, at any age. sometimes intentionally.but nobody does anything anyway.good job TSF keep up the good work, learning from the older teams .
It would have been a forfiet as tsf in PDA this weekend and game has to be played by this Sunday.
so why go thru the charade ? what good is a forfeit? if your intent is to forfeit, why show up at all? why have the refs come late, as if it was intentional? just forfeit and be done with it. makes no sense to me. is a loss worse than a forfeit?
This works out better for everyone else in the state cup, stallions are weak and better off out.
lol Better off? Lets talk about development, which you should be on this board/blog.I am a stallions parent and Im proud to be one. To state FACTS:Our team was formed around northern county B and C level players a year ago. We won 2 games in 12 months last year. This year we only added a few new faces to our team and those faces being the same type of level players simlilar to the B/C level standard we were once at. Basically stating, the players we added this year were nothing special.No we are not the best but yet we never said we are and never have come across that way as a team either. Our coach has a track record on player development. Do your research.. not just watch his actions during game day which I will add are intense and over the top at times but thats his style of coaching. He has many players who were under his guidance and tutelage for many years who now play D1 soccer- US National team status- ECNL- BOYS Academy, etc. I will be the first to say my daughter is an average player, especially at the level we play at as a team but the fact that our mediocre team/players have now morphed into a team that now actually competes with these POWERHOUSE teams who are THE BEST, is where my point comes to place here and at times when we play these games, some of our players look like the best players on the field. You would never know in a million years that these same players were playing northern counties B flight a year ago. The current TSF team has been a team for over 4 years and look what you have to show for it? You look similar if not worse than the stallions. Is someone to blame (tsf coaches) or is someone to give creidt (stallions coach) Obviously an opinion.20 players tried out for stallions last year- 17 made the roster. How many tried out for TSF? PDA? SDFC? Barons? Rush? Match Fit? Look at the long term. No need to bash our coach and our team. Mind your own business and worry about your daughter. My daughter should be playing vs her town teams- but thanks to this team and the coach, she actually looks like she belongs in this environment and can handle her own in regards to technique, skill and understanding of the game. There are a lot of rotten ppl who write nasty things on this blog but for the parents who do read this blog that care about your child, just make sure she is in a place where she is learning- not winning. To watch my child's growth is way more beneficial and rewarding rather than watching her team win. Just my two cents for the parents who actually care what you are spending your money on..
1:26 Well said!
Anyone know who won last night between NJX/MFA and PDA Shore?
@April 16, 2015 at 1:26 PM =) Very nicely said. I totally agree with you. You are one of the nicer parents.
Those that come on here and criticize other teams are really just dissatisfied with their own situation and it makes them feel better about themselves to put others down. Psych 101.Well said 1:26.
126 your facts aren't all correct but your sentiment is well placed
PDAs roster next year will be 28 players. That's what they are carrying this year for U13 pre-ecnl.
njx won last night, 1-0
Correct, njx beat another town team last night... Save your blogs for a real win.
NJX v SDFC rage going to be good game.Nova going to semisRenegades too much for TSFGalaxy cake walkWho's going to final? Galaxy v Rage going to be fun ;-)))))Sdfc v nova going to be a great game as well
TSFs best players have already been training with Sdfc. Tsf going to be a lost team next year
Why does 6:35 state the score of a game he saw on the NJ Cup website, then at 8:23 bash his earlier post as bragging? Obsessed whacko alert! Hide your underage children, stalker on the loose.
PDA nova team to beat
Predictions???? You have to go with galaxy but STA are a very good team. TSF are ok but no match for renegades. Princeton over SDFC- lol Nova over Barons. NJX already thru. I'm saying it first here, Renegades beat galaxy in semi. Sdfc over NJX. Nova over Barons. Nova over Sdfc. Renegades v Nova final.
Barons over Nova then Sdfc. Edge Galaxy in the finals. Cherry Hill wins if you keep track of "should haves".
I posted the Njx-PDA shore score, and that's it. Didn't post anything else. Some of you posters are nuts. This blog is a sport unto itself. Try to stay classy folks.
Agreed. You got the ppl who go on this blog and write their feelings and emotions. You got the ppl who just talk loads of crap. You got ppl who enjoying creating drama. Literally, childish. . It makes a lot of ppl, teams and coaches look bad when many of these ppl have no idea things are even being spoken about them as they only care about their daughter or their team. So childish. Most of the ppl look at this website have players who are on the bottom of their roster and need something or someone to talk about so it can boost their ego as they live thru their child. Be classy. Watch your daughter and shut up
Why does anyone ask for a score, or post a score, which is easily accessible at the appropriate web site. Because this blog has more losers than OTB.
Predictions are cool, player/team bashing is crazy. Those of you that feel the need have your own issues. I am curious about tryouts, who is moving where, and how many are showing up. Also PDA tourney, lots of top teams this age group there.And--Earlier posts about Cedar Stars were weird. Cedar Stars is not even forming a girls team this age. Why self promote wrong age bracket?
Ok I guess the deleted post were a little to sensitive. Anything can happen in state cup play. The pressure alone takes into effect. Galaxy and NJX have been through it and are the most experience squads I see a re-match in the horizon from last spring. Any predictions for PDA tourney this weekend?
i predict wonderful sunshine, some good competitive soccer games, and a couple of laughs.once that's over, i predict lots of chatter on the blog and a bunch of knuckle-draggers saying ridiculous things about 6th grade girls playing soccer.maybe we can get a youth soccer ref blog started ...
MFA is starting a new pre-ECNL team.
Mfa? HAHAHAHA who cares
hahaha? MFA has NJX sol lined up as their Pre-Ecnl. Its obvious the board has haters, but that team is nothing to laugh at. sorryAnd no, not from NJX, my daughter playes for one of their competitors. WC is the curious question - is red storm the pre-ecnl? or maximus?
Not true. They are having an open tryout. Some girls are going over from the Sol.
U12 Maximus is leaving WC and going to Arsenal so they don't disrupt their team. I think there is fear there that the merge may leave some kids out of the encl team from Maximus and/or some of the Maximus players may not be in the top 11. The same applies to the WC players. I think it is a disservice to some of the kids from both programs because the combined talent would make for a very formidable ECNL team. So the transitioning Maximus team will not have access to NPL or ECNL in two years. i don't understand the point. Maybe someone knows more about this and can explain it.
@1231 All tryouts are open, however, most members of a team stay. And Sol has been pegged as the base.Your player can tryout for PDA or WC or Alberston too. But yes they already have a roster
@1231, that is confusing. seriously. Yes the combined players would make for a strong team. So u12 is not going WC, I am shocked
Thanks for the info.
I did hear that Maximus tryouts are different than WC that's 100% for sure...but haven't heard about the Arsenal news
Is it true about tsf players training with Sdfc? Tsf falling apart? Heard many are unhappy at IGFA too!
Kudos to Maximus U12 for sticking together as a team. Considering the team has a great core of players, that have a great place to train, they should have no problem attracting real hard working players who have talent (not just ECNL seeking talent). It would be a disservice to both WC and Maximus top teams at this age group to break up teams for the sake of winning a couple of games in the short run. Good luck!
OVER/UNDER this Blog hits 900 over the weekend and Monday. I'm calling the OVER. LOL
It is great for a team to want to stay together as a team but the bottom half of the team will keep the top players from further development. The time is coming near for the better players to seek out more intense competition. This goes for all the teams looking to move as a whole team. You do this to have the lower level players hide behind the better, more committed players.
great thing about this planet is everyone can have an opinion on what others should do. everyone is an expert, everyone knows best. do what you think is in your best interest for your, your kids, your family. And hopefully everyone gets what they want. Everyone has an opinion on IGFA and TSF and SDFC and WC and Maximus. Its guessing, no real knowledge of the situation or what anyone has planned. I love the TSF top kids are training with SDFC - Note to SDFC parents who think thats the case, guess again. You might get our a few, but our top (real top) couple are not coming to you. SDFC has a nice program but nothing more special than ours. We've played maximus a bunch the last two years. Solid core of kids , congrats to them for having some principals and not selling out to WC.
No one else find it interesting/funny that no one cares to join fc Maximus? Especially knowing how highly ranked they are.. Goes to show you ppl are not as stupid as they look. The fact that fc Maximus has 1- not been able to recruit any players to get the lower level players out and continue on strengthening the squad. 2- has to now join up with arsenal, who btw has a lot of pool of players but maybe MAYBE one or two kids even close to a high level. 3- pretty sad that the coach and manager decide to slow down the better players of the team by not joining up with world class. Seems like the coach only cares about winning soccer games rather than putting players where they should be. Same goes for the manager/coach. If they go to world class, both coach and manager will be replaced. So what do they do- everything they can to stop a players growth. Real classy Maximus. Real classy. Hope your not getting too comfortable anyways :-) can't wait to see you play up with the big girls soon- you have only 2 months left to keep beating on your weak small sides teams and your parents stay happy. Wait until your challenged and beaten every other week.. Ill be the first to say I told you so. Your ride will come down soon..
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Congratulations PDA Shore, very well trained team. Unfortunate loss to NJX 1-0. Considering MFA? I would reconsider. Shore was the dominating team, better trained and coached. PDA = development MFA = $$$$$$$$$$$
But you still lost. Bottom line. Theses kids are 11.... Who cares!! It beautiful outside. Go enjoy!
All you Rage parents complaining about not being in the top bracket at pda kickoff.....couldn't get past Cherryhill. A toe
April 17, 2015 at 5:42 PM I know nothing of the Maximum World Class situations, but your posts is so ugly to read. You realize its called the beautiful sport, right? You have some real negativity flowing from you. You should go out and watch your kids play soccer, smile and have fun. You sound like the one who enjoyed telling the world TSF was getting its best players taken by SDFC. You realize the kids are the players in this, not you, not anyone else. Have a little class. Try to be positive. I know its hard to do, but try. You might enoy life just a bit more.
for everyone, when did it become a zero sum game? in your mind, for you and your daughter to be good, everyone else must be wrong or stink or be stepped upon. "TSF is falling part and the best are going elsewhere" "Rage lost to Cherry Hill so ha ha " "when you lose every other week, I'll be the first to say I told you so".Why not try to make someone feel good rather than thrash someone.just love the game, love ALL the kids, wish them ALL well, hope they ALL get great grades and enjoy their youth, that they are healthy and happy. And if all that is the case, AND they can also play great soccer, then we've done our job as parents.be positive, say something nice instead of something negative. One nice thing at a time and soon you'll be talking nice, feeling good and that negativity will be gone. I hope everyone is enjoying a wonderful weekend of soccer. I could not be any more thrilled to sit and watch my kids play today. We lost but it was great soccer though a bit more great soccer from the other side than our side. We are hoping for more great weather tomorrow. Thank you PDA for a great tournament!
where are the links to the pda tournament results? I tried their site and threw my hands up.
Click on Spring KickoffClick on Schedules/Results on left menuClick on "Schedules" in redGo to top bar and look for "Schedules/Standings"Way too many clicks if you ask me ....
Thanks. Found it.
Go njx , you need a big tournament win
@12:23 what does that mean?
Big mouths talking about Pda not being fair, you can't say anything now, but you were wrong. Looks like Rage lost to so called Pda second or third team and cherry hill. No way a Pda fan, but they don't talk crap and dig holes like rage and njx.
They actually tied cherry hill, but that's not impressive. I agree about rage, don't see njx much anymore.
Maximus basically used to be Arsenal before they brought there players into Superdome under the maximus name. Now theyre basically going back to where they started from.
To April 18, 2015 at 5:04 PM,Well put. So many classless parents on the sidelines, and worse still the anonymous cowards on this blog. NJ teams represented well. The tournament was well run, we had great weather, and I'm sure most if not all girls enjoyed it, despite the pettiness of their parents.Galaxy won the top flight. in 2nd flight, for all the comments about Rage, and they lost a close one in the finals to Nova. Game could have went Either way. Looks like NJ teams beat all out of state teams in this group and only lost to each other in close games.3rd flight top 3 teams from NJ. Well done TSF.4th flight looks like PDA Shore lost in the finals (but had more points?)So get your head out of your phone on the sidelines, stop blogging from the sidelines on a beautiful Sunday, and stop being so bitter. Next thing you know your kid is in college and you'll have nothing to do with your life.
great tournament, the girls played on great fields and I thought that everyone was polite and respectful of each other. If that isn't an uncommonly great weekend in NJ Youth Soccer - I don't know what is!!!
Agree with 9:06 100%! I saw many games and did not encounter any parent issues. There were many close games and several finals were decided in PK's - great soccer, great weekend!!
And the blog didn't explode like predicted. I assume it would have if the Pda teams didn't do so well. I thought Galaxy would do well, didn't expect nova to take that bracket.
Wait, rage didn't run away in second bracket? Can the person who was so upset please explain what the heck happened? I love when people make a huge deal and then never come back and admit they over reacted...
This blog is very quiet today, I guess those bloggers that lost or either didn't perform well this past weekend are keeping their egos in check. PDA truly showed they are a power house at this age.
Why would you say PDA is the powerhouse at this age? I think all games were close.
Because if you take all 4 PDA teams and pull the top 20 girls, it will create the best pre-ECNL to ECNL team come U13 to U14. 7:16 you have no clue.
7:42 your comment is dumb and nobody cares about your u14 teams. I don't believe many of those girls are going to the ecnl team. the top players from all the other teams have just as good of a shot, if they want it. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th brackets were all close.7:16 in soccer when you win by 2 and 3 points that is not a close game in a top bracket. Give credit where credit is do, especially when no other team scores a point on you in 4 games. Maybe in mind you are thinking about American football? Yes, that would be a close game or in basketball too. Pda was so good until you came around. You will open yourself up like the other clubs have recently, and look at them now.
Are you trying to say that the starters on Galaxy now, won't be the starters for pre-ECNL/ECNL play?
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No, I'm saying the players from the 2, 3 and 4 teams don't. I'm sure Galaxy has a solid bunch of girls like most teams. Pretty sure there are 4 to 6 that won't be there, or will leave for more playing time at other clubs.
The "bloggers" are not the ones playing the game...let the girls enjoy their soccer, and develop in a way that suits their talent potential. This blog is interesting, in that clearly some people (not all) are living through their daughters, in a sad but entitled, & quite nasty way. All of the teams in each bracket (PDA tournament) were able to win or lose against each other. There were no breakaway teams, as evidenced by the scores. Some are more fundamentally sound than others and more established as a club. Others have more grit and overall tenacity, etc. That being said, it was great competition overall, and participants (parents and players) appeared to have that as the final takeaway in the end, thankfully. Going forward, let's remember that these girls are 11/12 years old. If we want them to respect the game and each other, then be a positive example to your children, and teach them that passion, not pettiness, paves the path. Interesting & unfortunate to see the team/coaching bashing here as well, as if all are created equal. If you pay top dollar for tuition, but are just as competitive as those teams who don't, then why brag? Obviously money doesn't equal being the best, but some on this blog think so (if they're paying top of scale). Bottom line...there's talent out there. Some of that talent can be found on great "powerhouse" teams. And some on "mediocre" teams, according to earlier blogs. All these teams in the top can be beat, or tie, or lose to one another on any given day. To think otherwise is foolish.
thanks, for nothing. Can we move on preacher.
Please when a team like Galaxy wins by a 2+ margin in every game and no goals allowed that's not a close game in top bracket. I Agree when they merge a few or more girls from other satellite teams like Nova, Shore, and Crew then they will be even dominate the ECNL clubs. ECNL squads MatchFit, World Class and those in PA will play 2nd fiddle the next 4/5 years.
Galaxy at U14 will start to loose girls to other Ecnl teams these girls will also get looks from the college coaches if that is what they are looking for. PDA has a great program but not the only one in town anymore. Get your daughter the touches and training that will payoff later.
Congratulations and thanks to PDA for a great tournament. But you do yourselves a disservice boasting and flaunting up here. You do not have to pound your chests and pound down others to be great. Be humble, thank others, congratulate others, and let your kids' performance do all the talking about their talent. "powerhouse" and "beat the best if you want be the best" ...I'm guessing its unneeded. We enjoy playing you. It shows us a great picture of soccer. Its unflattering to then come here and ready you talking about how great you are. Enjoy your success, be humble, congratulate other teams and love the game.Make teams love you guys, not hate you guys. Leave that hate stuff to others.
PDA obviously had a good weekend in this age group in every bracket but bracket 3. Good for them. It was a great tournament. Their teams are disciplined and have a distinct style of play that works very well for them. As it relates to the merging of the teams - we should look at what has happened at the older age groups to figure out how that will play out. Reality is, this age group will not be different. Girls will fall off the Galaxy. New girls will come and replace existing girls. It is the nature of the beast. The girls that are at PDA have the benefit of being familiar with their training and style of play. The girls at the Galaxy have the advantage of holding the seat. BUT, there will be changes or they will end up like some of the older teams at PDA and will struggle to be as competitive as they are now if they don't take the talent when it shows up. And there is other talent out there. Some of it is less refined than what you see at PDA. And no disrespect to the PDA girls, but they are not the best athletes out there across the board. They are good athletes but I saw some girls this weekend that could run circles around them athletically. Obviously, you need a combination of skills and athleticism, but as they say, you can't teach speed.... (And no, my daughter is not one of the girls that I am referring to.) Merging teams and taking the top talent is hard but not making changes and assuming you got it 100% right at 10 years old is a mistake from a club perspective.
Just remember, when you are good, you tell people, but when you are great, people will tell you
I am not a PDA parent but my daughter's team has played Galaxy and I had the pleasure of watching them play this weekend against some very good teams. They are without a doubt the strongest team in this area. they play the game the way it should be played, with unselfish passing and a very team oriented system. The games i watched, they controlled possession and owned the ball. I don't think anyone can deny this. What will happen in the next few years is unknown. Girls are developing at a different rate at this age. Some have reached their full height and other haven't begun to grow. I am sure there are many girls that haven't come close to their potential and these are the formative years. So yes, PDA will ultimately do what they need to do to improve their team. All high level programs will do this. That is the business side of this sport. But we are blessed to have so much talent and amazing clubs in NJ, Pa and NY that it all will create options. Congrats to PDA on their success this past weekend and to hosting a great tournament.
April 21, 2015 at 2:13 PM "I am not a PDA parent"yeah, right. PDA, just stop already. 3,4 posts, each 15 sentences extolling the righteous virtues of PDA over and over. Oh, but you said you weren't a PDA parent. You maybe recognized the negative light you bring to yourselves saying crap like "you want to be the beast, you have to beat us." And instead its more digestable to tout yourselves under the guise of not being a pda parent.PSYCHO!!!!
@9:21amI know it is hard for haters like you to accept the fact that others observe and appreciate beautiful soccer. I am 100% not a PDA parent. PDA is an hour and half from where I live and there are other ECNL programs in my area. So it is hard to believe that a non-PDA parent can appreciate the level of play at U12 these girls play.
Give Credit where credit is due, PDA is the top club in the country and if your daughter has that true quality player it's the place to be. All those other pop up academies or competing NPL/ECNL clubs will always be looked at as a 2nd options for schools later down the. The name alone carries so much weight. Glad to be part of a great organization.
921 settle down and go make yourself a drink, your day will get better.
10:00 Top club in the country? No caveats? No qualifiers? Might be a bit much.Even a simple, "for girls teams" might have made that go down a little easier.PDA is a great club, but easy on the Kool-Aid.
10:00am. PDA is not the best club in the country, clubs in California would demolish teams in NJ. They play outside year round, have superb facilities and a lot more competition than here in NJ.PDA is the best girls club in the State, of that there is little question but easy on the Kool-Aid.Any other thoughts on what girls club in NJ are doing a good job across the board? Might be more of a useful discussion given it's tryout season.
According to Soccer America, PDA is the top girls club in America.
1110 - Pda has been ranked the number one girls club in the country the past few years. This is a fact, you can go do some research. And they don't get demolished by teams in California. Do your homework and look at the results. To be ranked number one like Pda - you have to have the best teams across the board and actually win the natl events. You are probably the same person talking Sat week about how Pda should have put rage in the top bracket and then never heard back from you?
In the south, rage and nj rush will be strong. Pda south is also great option. The north has a bunch of mixed options, nothing great. Sdfc may be the best option currently. Mf and wc are hurting at this age group and will struggle for a few years.
NJ Rush is considered Central to me and will probably stay competing vs. the North teams in NJ. By order in the south PDA south, Rage, and SJEB will be the only teams for girls go too flock too to stay at a competitive level. The north teams will overall be stronger for the state. Yes PDA is ranked the best in the country as they are competing at every age level.
11:10 is writing about something they don't understand. Say what you want about PDA they have been the most dominant girls club in the country for a long time. Their teams have beat all comers including all the great ones from CA. The U18 team from last year won the ECNL 2X and in the last year never gave up a goal in the playoffs. Look at how many kids they have on the national teams from the USWNT down to U14.
In the North i wholeheartedly disagree with SDFC being the best option as a girls club. Their focus and TSFs is on the boys side. Besides the current age groups both clubs have weak older girls teams. If we look at got soccer (which we all agree isn't a totally fair yard stick but is generally accurate) you can see below the better teams in North NJ in terms of rankings within the State. Interesting reading for those who are seeking a Club who is based on long term development rather than the here and now.TSF12s-12th13s-7th14s-16th15s-32nd16s-16th17s-23rd18s-15thSDFC12s-4th13s-20th14s-NO TEAM15s-8th16s-75th17s-14th18s-NO TEAMSTA12s-7th13s-1st14s-4th15s-9th16s-3rd17s-NO TEAM18s-4thCopa12s-21st13s-16th14s-12th15s-1st16s-4th17s-16th18s-14thNJ Crush12s-14th13s-8th14s-8th15s-5th16s-10th17s-20th18s-9thNJ Stallions12s-18th13s-NO TEAM14s-5th15s-18th16s-6th17s-1st18s-30th
The SDFC team in this age group is definitely a great option for girls up north. Very good coach who steers his team to a distinct style of play. Maybe the club has some gaps in different age groups, but I would focus on the coach in your age group and his stability. The coach at this age is very good and he has been with the team since U-8 I think.
Agree, the other clubs mentioned are not good options. Clubs like crush chase points for recruitment. Sdrc has a great u11 team as well. There are some solid players on Maximus and a few on tsf. If some of them moved to sdfc, would help build a really nice option for the north. Crush, igfa, sta all will be very low ranked in this age group. WCFC needs a ton of help, and don't see it coming anytime soon. PDA is still best option by far, but you would have to be the top player on any given team to have any chance. MF is horrible at this age and the organization is too...
11:42 I see that rating from 2013 - is there anything more recent?
Stallions are a joke as well. Doc is an ego maniac and will never build a solid organization. I really wish some of these clubs could, but they will always lose their top girls to the ecnl clubs. Wcfc will be okay, just because they have ecnl and people will understand how important it has become. Not a huge fan of it, but it will help the top clubs be the strongest at 13 and above. Reality sucks sometimes.
At this age group it goes like thisPda north , 1Pda south , 2 - I didn't think they would be strong so soon - I actually hope they do well.Rage , 3 - this is an awesome team and with a little more depth and a real coach , this team has potentialSjeb , 4 - if they lose top player to pa ecnl club , they are done. She needs to move on at some point.Sdfc , 5 - hope they do well too. Girls from the so called north should go there - I do like their style and coach seems good.Maximus , 6 - hard core coach and some solid players - not sure they have the depth to stay strong.Njx, cherry hill, Rush, just all average.Crush, stallions, copa, tsf, sta - girls should move on if you want more.
Sorry Pda , your second or third team crew is top 5 as well. Probably behind rage , they did get beat by them . But I'm sure they will get more depth soon and seem to be doing well. It's nice when a club has several teams doing well in one age group. I wish mf and wcfc would do the same , those clubs need help. They can't even get one team to be strong. If rage and rush really merge , could be a power house at this age. Again , I would love to see them do well too , it's good for all of us.
7:19 -RAGE's coach has made them 'awesome' as it is. What is 'real' that you are looking for that you have already discounted from him?
Stallions doc will be here soon to talk about his one team that all got 120 percent scholarships as freshman. I think half of them went Ivy League and they got 120 percent, only ones in history to get them.
Cherry Hill beat SJEB 2-0!
Word is Sjeb lost to cherry hill in nj cup 2-0 ...Sjeb has fallen off big time what are the odds that team breaks up
Question to all you analysts of 11 year old soccer.... Do you put as much time into evaluating your kids grades and school teachers as you do the rival coaches at u12?You all need to relax. You have six to tenn years left. You are going to ulcer yourselves
CH parents, how many guest players do you have for State cup?
Oh boy, here come the excuses. Zero guest players. Your accusations make no sense. What superstar players aren't a rostered and can guest play? Ridiculous. Have some "faith" that SJEB will rebound from this loss.
If a club is successful across all age groups then that is a safe place to put your child for their developmentSDFC are a good team at the age group but what happens when that coach leaves? They haven't got a history of having good teams throughout the girls ages. Likewise with Maximus, a good team but zero history as a club and no other competitive girls teams. Gathering by that list the only club that is solid throughout is STA. Take from it what you will but they're a good team with a good coach.
This sounds like a definite PDA parent.. Probably the one who started this stupid blog because all they know how t do is smack talk and have nothing better to do with their time.
not a sjeb parent or CH, but my God, beating a team by 2 goals is not destroying them. I bet PDA Galaxy will lose by that many as well, and they actually did last season, didn't they?
1155 what is your point? Nobody said anything about destroying a team by 2 0. Have another drink lady.
CH is a town team with all around good talent you should all respect how they have stuck together and stayed competitive without the academy signature behind them. Plus CH is a prestigious town down south. Again parents need to admire what they have done and stop knocking them down.
It's not the girls from CH. I believe it's the parents that are rude and obnoxious.
I really don't get the mind set of some ppl. Reading some of the post above and to be honest its just pathetic. This isn't my first rodeo as I have been thru this with my oldest so I have a good idea where and what I need to do in order to see the proper growth down the road but you can easily spot the parents who are just now experiencing this new world of soccer and the hype of their 10, 11, 12 year old daughter. Many of you need to really take a deep breathe and think about the stuff you post on these sites. To me, the same parents who come on here bashing clubs, other coaches, talking about ECNL, what team to go to, what team to stay away from.. (Etc) are the same parents who are clueless with the youth soccer landscape a d only judge based on what they have seen NOW. I just read a few post that players from sta, stallions and crush should look elsewhere. Very comical. The crush coach who us also the owner, has got many on ayers into top level colleges. The sta organization has done very well and this team is very good. The stallions have their own track record with success with older teams and past players, like it or not. For the parents who come on here religiously, don't feed into the crap. The same parents that write in these blogs with such hatred, are the same parents who watch their daughter player on the junior varsity team as a junior and senior. These are the parents who need this type of attention now, bc they truly know once high school hits, their comments and thoughts about who what why and where will no longer be useful bc players come and go. For the parents who keep taking about ECNL at the age of 12 years old, so comical. These clubs want the next best thing. Most of these coaches part of these clubs are lower end coaches whose salary comes to 7-9 thousand a team (I know as my brother in law coders for an ECNL team) Why and how is that possible? Bc very little training is needed once you have 100 kids tryout for a team and the 20 that you select are already developed by another coach somewhere else. All these coaches do is put a few cones down for a brief practice, then they scrimmage. If you go to these type of teams now, the likes of you being there when it matters is very slim. Get the training. Get the knowledge of the game. Get development because very soon you are going to see a drastic change and you are going to hate that fact that you as a parent lived for the NOW. And a little advice, many coaches throughout these clubs may still be players themselves. Something that helped me out as a parent was when I watched my daughters coach play a game. My eyes were blown away. He clearly knows how to play and what to do. I know not all great players make great coaches but if you only seen some of these ECNL practices, you as a parent can construct a better practice. Some of these coaches can't even kick a ball lol Please look for the future. You want your daughter to play this game forever. You want them to show up at a park and be skillful enough to play a game of pick up with men. How long will you keep your kick and run medals up above the fire place? How many if your daughters actually know any players besides messi and ronaldo? Watch the game. Enjoy the game. Bottom line- some of you are so sad on this blog with the things you write. But I know your type as I've seen it many times.. Take a long look in the mirror and just think about what's more important..
Cherry hill doesn't have talent. They have potential, huge difference. Cherry hill plays direct. Under any pressure, balls are flying high sky. Same with tsf- same with PDA nova- same with PDA crew- same with njx- same with rush- same with igfa- same with rage- same with Maximus.. The only teams that play any style to this game with possession and creativity are Sdfc, PDA galaxy, SJ barons, stallions, sta, freehold (believe it or not). I can understand if we these coaches had their job on the line and if they lose they get fired, seeing the ball being launched in the air makes a little sense "when in doubt, kick it out" . But these coaches won't get fired, maybe players will leave bc the team is losing but that doesn't effect their pay scale.. So why kick and run? The amount of talent with rage, tsf, Maximus.. But bc their coaches care about puffing their chest on whose is number one, 85% of these girls now who play on "ranked" teams, won't ever step a field in a competitive level come 17 years old. Players from Sdfc, SJ barons, galaxy, stallions, sta are going to not only cope with your kick and run style as they work on their control from the air. So many teams that I listed above Wien on set pieces like throw ins, that's because teams are not good enough to keep the ball in bounds. Cherry hill parent. You have loads of potenial, but enjoy your boosting now bc in a few years you will be playing at a very average league where the ball will be in the air 90% of the game and loads of athletism is on the field running back and forth with very little soccer is played. I'm 47 years old- I can boot a ball forward, you pay 2400 and waste your weekends to watch that? Haha
@11:15 That is the most rediculous comment ever. You should be ashamed of yourself, and I'm sure your daughter would be embarrassed at your level of immaturity (haha?). Pathetic parent.
11:15 OMG. Just when I thought you couldn't sink lower, this place hit another bottom
If you don't like it, leave lady.
Well if anyone notices it's amazing we have this many good teams in NJ. What every happens hopefully 1 or possibly 2 will come out of this abundance of talented teams and play in the National spotlight one day. Your daughters should keep a good memory and so later in life you can remind her remember playing with or against her those specific players that pull up in the spotlight.
Question for some parents out there....was looking for some advice.My daughter is younger than a U12. Very skilled player, I live 15 mins from TSF and close to an hr from PDA. Travel is a concern with all this of course.I heard PDA is a better program, but it pretty far. What team should I try her out for?
If your up that way you already know who the best program in the country is. So I refer back to your U11 blog and ask where everyone is going first.
sorry, April 23, 2015 at 2:12 PM , but thats not what i hope. i hope my daughter loves her teammates, and they love her back, whomever they are. and i hope later in life she remembers all the kids on the team that worked hard together and had a ton of fun together. the mere rememberance of some kid she might have had ODP with or went against in the finals who went on to the National team is neat. More neat will be tracking the success of the doctors, teachers, artists and lawyers that come out of this all. People, its just soccer however amazing it might be. and mr 11:15, thats a nasty error-filled ego-maniacal post. This sport is not for that mindset. sorry.
2:36My daughter was at TSF for a few yrs. They do very little to develop a player's skill. They're all about winning at all costs. They enter loads of tournaments to get their rankings higher. I recommend NJ Stallions or SDFC. These clubs are more concerned about player development. PDA is also good but they're too far away.
11:15 - Really Low. You should be ashamed of yourself. Someone to even make a comment like that, I feel bad for their child. And sad but true, apple doesn't fall far. It's going to come back and bite you.
2:26try not just to go to tryouts but also to practice sessions. this will allow your daughter to see the morale and socialization of the team. it's the most important think for your daughter to succeed ion the teammany clubs also offer small group classes, this will allow you to see the development methodology.there are many clubs in north jersey:- match fit- maximus (ex maximus)- crush- world class- stallions- sdfc- IGF- PDAif you're close to new york state, 2 great clubs:- clarkstown- world classand even great smaller clubs that have amazing teams:- americans- arsenalim probably missing a whole lot, dpending on your location! remember that many teams will take on players mid season if your kid is great. just do your research. in general clubs that have more than one team in age group tend to develop their players, and clubs that have one team must rely on poaching a bit more.
I love how much attention my post (11:15) has received How am I the bad person here? Parents pay loads of money to clubs who play kick and run soccer week in and week out. I watch my daughters team and I see what they are working on during practice and actually see her team to start adding different things to their game. We've been playing vs the same teams for 2 years now so we clearly have an idea what the other teams about. Pretty sad how the only thing that seems to be developing throughout many of these clubs is speed and height. Honestly ask yourself is 2,400-3,000 worth watching your daughter panic everytime every time a defender is next to them. Is $250 a month really worth watching a few kids run back and forth chasing a ball being booted up in the air over and over again? Yea, I'm the bad person here. So many parents on this blog just simply live through their daughters weekend of soccer. Many have never even watched a practice during the week but show up on Saturday and Sunday applauding a kick up the field claiming it a "great ball". Many of you parents want your daughters team to win so you can go out to your girl nights and brag about Jessica's team won. Jessica's team won. You brag about your got soccer rankings.I didn't say cherry hill doesn't have any players worth playing.. I simply stated that teams like cherry hill, tsf, PDA nova, PDA crew, IGFA, etc all play kick ball 90% of the time they step on the field. These coaches are so afraid of losing their "better players" so they can careless about player development. My question is why.. No coach in youth soccer would ever get fired for losing matches. Maybe the players who are the top 2-4 will leave, but again that doesn't affect their pay. So why not just develop some players. Many teams around the state have so much potential, but why so you think only a select few actually make D 1 college programs or US national team programs.. Those are the ones who been around coaches who careless about winning and have the ability and knowledge to coach player development- they also have been able to teach parents as well to stop drinking the kool-aid. Stop listening to the "town gossip" about whose winning what at u12. Feel free to bash me again but I am right and know I have my daughter in a program where I can careless about a tournament win or a kick and run weekend. Been there done that.. Good luck to all you parents living for the now. Your ride will end soon if you don't take a hard look at your daughters coach and see where he or she really is doing..
2:36 – I disagree with your assessment of TSF as a long time parent I do think there is a focus on the development and frankly if you would poll the parents entering the team in too many tournaments is not an issue, perhaps the opposite might be closer to the truth.Obviously, TSF does not attract the same caliber of girls as some to the other team do, but in my view it the soccer level is reasonable, at least for my daughter. One feature is that a substantial number of the team’s members are multi-sport athletes and they often miss practice to participate on other teams. This is tolerated, and is great if you want to balance soccer, basketball, track and LAX, but probably not ideal if you want to build the best possible soccer team.
Yea great job tsf.. You already had one coach who got shown the door because he wasent good enough. Your current coach is close to being sacked "rumor has it". He loss the state cup for his u11 team by not assigning refs, he lost you guys in state cup in fall for not having cardsand this past state cup you got lucky a team didn't call forfiet for showing up 90 mins late w refs. Tsf is the worst organization for girls. Other teams have multi sport players but they end up becoming full time soccer players bc they are so intrigued and tuned in with that is going on with their current teams practice. Tsf continues to have many players playing other sports bc no one is convinced with the program to go 100%. For the parent who is looking for other programs, look for PDA, Matchfit or sdfc
TSF parent - your coaches loudly yelling "attack and take them out" to your players as they play an opposing team (aka our players) says much about their position on development and winning.
TSF is really expensive so if your daughter is not 100% committed to soccer why stay there? You must have money to burn. And I do think their all about winning and rankings, Coaches are under pressure to win so they tell Players its better to foul the opposing team rather than let them score.
@11:19 I am sorry if your daughter did not get a lot of playing time or had a bad experience when she was playing at TSF, but I am sure you have corrected that and she now the starting center-mid fielder for Galaxy, way to go dad. TSF has its issues, but read these boards so do most teams (or at least a few people who are very dissatisfied), I do think TSF is a reasonable option for people in the North Jersey area and my sense is that they are more flexible than most if that is a consideration for folks.You said coach who got shown the door because he wasn’t good enough, I am sorry I can not imagine who that would be Again this is just my opinion you obviously have another one.
If you call paying over $3500 for a mediocre soccer club that poses as an academy, I'm sure you're satisfied. Their about winning rankings money
My girl plays for another team mentioned here (not TSF) but I can tell you that when we were looking, the costs were comparable and not out of line. TSF was quoted all in, another club quoted for fall and spring but winter and tournaments were extra. in the end, the differential was $100 give or take, not something that is make or break. I would venture that most clubs are in line for the year.
Red head got shown the doorFor the parent looking at tsf- they pay 3,200. What a joke for a mediocre club.
how much do you pay?
clearly someone here has an ax to grind with tsf. coaches do not and have never yelled these things out. first the poster says cost is "over $3500", then it's $3200 (neither is correct btw). so keep spouting off. you also might want to check your writing ("can careless" - what the hell does that even mean?)
Don't forget the costly new uniform you have to buy every year.
TSF fees were about 2800 last year; yes maybe that is a few hundred more than other clubs, it was included.There are scholarships for kids, but for sure not what the true academies can offer TSF is a business (as some other clubs are), it has owners that stand to make a profit if their business is successful, if they are not their business will fail like any other, there is nothing wrong with that. I do have general faith in the market to improve a product whether it be soccer or anything else.
Good up and coming program for U8 - U11 girls, really nothing yet for U12 and above.....Cedar Stars Academy
1220 new uniforms are not yearly. I don't know of any club in which they are, from town all the way to ecnl. what is wrong with you, really?
When you say "about 2800"" - its actually 3,000 bc we played with kids from their an they told us their tuition. 3,000????!!!!!! Crush, Sdfc, stallions, arsenal, Americans, Sta- pay no more than 2,400 (I did my research) and most of those clubs to just as much as tsf.. Your getting ripped off. Your club is a sinking ship
except your research is incorrect.
I was there and I know other people there so I do know about a lot of stuff that there on there. Parents do have to buy over priced new uniforms every year.
you "know a lot of stuff", ok. where does your kid play now?
NJ stallions 1900SDFC 1800 and you don't have to buy new uniforms every year
1. new uniforms are not every year2. there is no way in hell that sdfc is 1800 all in, for fall, winter, spring and tournaments.
sta $500crush $450pda free
i doubt most parents on here are knowledgeable enough to know the diffe3rence between trying to play forward or kick and run. its subtle. and all kids under pressure will get anxious. this is the value of winter indoor training, small space training, 8v8, 5v5, 3v3. this is what europe screams for through u15 and yet US socce3r looking for more revenues goes 11v11 at U11. Those committed to small play down the road will handle the pressure better and more able to connect the dots at game pace. my guess is that if you took every quality coach out there of the top teams and said he has zero limit to the number of players, low or high, no concern for revenues , the coach would try to stay as small as possible, on small sided as much as possible, in tight spaces for as long as the program would allow. No coach wants 20 kids, you can never get enough minutes for the bottom 5,6. And the US football 11v11 field is just too big for the u11 kid. maybe u12 and u13 it gets about the right size.as for the tsf bashing, way out of line and not necessary. you moved on, enjoy what you have. you've made your point, be considerate. they might not be the best program, but every program has its flaws.
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