It sounds like 1-3 and 5-9 is the argument against the DA. When the DA team is a mix-up of 2 age groups it is clearly to provide 2 different opportunities to kids over a long term.One year you're the 1-5.. the next year you're 5-9. No matter how you look at it. Good clubs do it by mixing up age groups in practice, and I have seen it done at all of the A and B clubs alike. Match Fit does it especially well - they mix up their teams from game to game.
what a joke. more entitle wealthy know it alls telling everyone else whats right and whats wrong. how about just shutting your traps and do what you believe in, rather than telling everyone how you have it right and they have it wrong. has it ever struck any of your incredo=geniuses, that maybe, just maybe, despite your sucking on all the marketing bullet points hook line and sinker...maybe just maybe you have it wrong. geez, couldnt be. after all you've been doing this for 3 decades with hundreds of kids, right? do what you think is right, just stop telling everyone else how wrong they are.
Angry little troll...
Im kind of tired of hearing that ecnl is an elitist system. All these clubs cost between 2200 and 3000. Uniforms are usually extra. Id say most between 2500 and 3000. So you are telling me $50 a month is keeping you from playing top level? I think if your kid can play there and make an impact im sure they can find scholarship money at any of these clubs. dont let the many scare you away. Any club can find ways to help. Travel can be pricier with ecnl but i bet rush blue families paid more last year. I just wouldn't let money be a deciding factor. Just like college.
For many money is NOT the deciding factor
Mf looking surprisingly competitive after a win and tight loss. New team. New coach. Will probably be strong in the spring. No affiliation actually just thought this blog overly critical.
MF Looks strong??New Coach- MF removed the over hyped coach from USA?How about teams knowing they are playing MF and not getting up for game. Still 2nd to last place.
For many, money is the deciding factor for youth sports,college, and plenty of other decisions. High costs and unnecessary travel costs keep plenty of girls out of soccer period, much less high level soccer. The talent pool is reduced by the high costs. There is lots of well off talent but that is the pool. Low income talent is basically absent from the game.
No 4:44 same coach. Just you guys make yourselves look bad by jumping on a newly formed team with anew coach after a few tough losses given byc. You should really wait until spring to see if the coaches can pull it together. If by end of spring they haven't righted the ship then by all means have at them. But it certainly seems as if they are trending better.
4:44 thats baloney. Rubbish. If you were ecnl you know those kids get up for every game. We beat that team but they were no pushover. Any ecnl kid knows college coaches can be at any game. No let down no way. This isnt edp.
congrats MF, you make ECNL so proud. You have a world class team and we knew you could pull a win off eventually. Please keep us posted on your next tie, win or close game. I think you have a chance to move up from second to last place.
GO MATCHFIT, your teams looks to be coming around after 4 years. Please keep us posted....
Class act world class coach. Class act.
10:56 if I may intervene. You may be interpreting 7:38 post incorrectly. My interpretation of 7:38 post: claiming the Match Fit U14 ECNL team is a "World Class team" not World Class FC Team. Stating Match Fit current team is being mocked as a top team (World Class team).
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8:22. I didn't misread but do appreciate the gentleness of your post. I do believe it is he who wrote it. Admin what is that post above?
i never heard anything about WC on here, sounds like a fals accusation.sounds to me like the only ecnl team talking is tne one who shouldn't be. And if it's the same WC coach from the past few years, I could never imagine that guy on a blog, I did hear a WC coach left MF with a bunch of players, but wasn't that u15 or 16?
Dont be so naive to think he wont take a shot any chance any age. Hes rotten.
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bethesda brackets? i cant seem to figure out where they are published. help pls? or do we just wait until schedule is out?
It doesn't look like brackets are out yet. https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=47043&Group=Girls_14
MFA 3 Albertson 1MFA 3 East Meadow 1Interesting.
8:27pm Thanks for the update MF parent.
kudos to the mfa coach and the team for that improvement!
Settle down - you realize that you are admitting how bad your team is and saying three wins all season is a major accomplishment. Please notice that you are ranked 10 still and league is not very strong. Could you imagine if other teams posted like this every week. Many other teams won this weekend too and everyone of them could beat you guys. Including STA, Crush, Stallions, PDA and many more. Where is the MF soccer complex? Would like to come watch this amazing team and coach.
Showing improvement ahead of winter training should be noted - with an entire spring of games also ahead.
Are we still talking about MFA? Why should anyone care?They are not even considered a top team or club in the state and probably 6 others that are better.Look at every other team they have as well and their decision to leave tne DA.
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Does MF need players? Looks like the team to be on now. Excellent momentum and looks like you will be in the top in ecnl national rankings very soon.
Does anyone know how Clarkstown beat SDFC 5-0. I mean really a top team like SDFC should be embarrassed by a lost of that margin. I mean its obvious that they could not score any goals but how do you give up 5 goals. Did they have a goalkeeper at the game.
Some of you are such clowns. By miles the 2nd best club in the state. Maybe Cedar stars changes that. My kids are at PDA and I think we are a mile ahead of matchfit, but to say their are 6 clubs better is laughable. The next 5 combined after MFA has less D1 kids and MF has 1/2 PDAs total.
10:09. Really nice job showing that you are a complete moron. PDA guy. Spot on. My kid not on the team but for all the harsh reaction to their first five games what a crock!Regression to the mean morrrons. Good coaches. Good training. Attracts good talent. Once gels equals good team. That albertson team is decent. Better than sdfc crush sta tsf combined.
6:39pm. I think the poster meant 6 better teams rather than 6 better clubs. That is more accurate. I have no doubt the other top 03 teams in the State (outside of PDA) could beat that MF ECNL group.
Which teams? Albertson can beat all those teams. You make no sense.
Have Albertson played any of those teams since the BYC? Unless not then it's just your opinion against mine. And unless you were at the MF v Albertson game then you again can't really say for certain. I'm pretty certain we have all been on the end of losing a game where you dominated it. Scores on a bit of paper mean nothing unless you can back it up with consistency.
Dude its 8 weeks into a new season with all new teams. The first month is throw away. You are being ridiclous!! What teams sdfc crush tsf sta? Those teams are all the same 2-3 good girls and the rest is fodder.
Why is the first month throw away? Because MF performed so poorly in it and others didn't?
Okay this MF blogger is out of control, including @639 posting as a PDA parent who can't write and claims they are second best team in state. Let it go, so many teams better and many clubs too. are you the NJX mom that's been grasping for attention for years and keep falling down?
MFA was 702 poster too. - WOW. Time to chill, you make your team, parents, coaches, club and girls look bad. Please go back and red your own post.
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No the first month is throw away for you too. Some teams had never played together. So if you beat 5 teams in sept and have to play them all again in spring it is unlikely that you will have the same result. Many times good teams with new coaches will take them a few steps backward to teach them to play in a different style which should make them a better team in the long run. I get mad because people pick on teams for losing tge right way vs losing the wrong way. We beat them early but am ready and hopeful to beat a much better team next time. I have older kids too and mfa always tough. I just get angry when i see teams just put together thrown into the fire by programs with a lot less success than the one you beat down.
The obvious performance expectation is that for this season teams that had less change were beating teams with more change. For example if you have a strong u13 team that is entirely early 03 players. I would expect that team to perform exceptionally well this season. Why? Because they know their system and are proficient in it. And they are strong physically based upon age distribution. Now I would expect the oppsite from a team with all new players and a new coach. I know nothing about mfa other than they were weak last year at u13 and a new coach from wnt. But I would believe they would bring in some talented player athletes. Even with great skilled athletes you cant expect that team to play together and keep positioning all that well for at least a few months. Its unfair to have that expectation. And by proclaiming they are terrible after 5-6 games just does not demonstrate an elevated knowledge of how soccer works. Im still learning the game myself but I have seen teams that play very good soccer lose to a lot of teams focused on winning way too many times to know not to judge solely based on result. In the byc year this is even more apparent.
I believe western NY, PDA, penn fusion and many more all had significant changes too, but not making excuses. And I'm not sure anyone has come down on this team, looks like it all started with your own post and just very defensive. This has been going on for years, I beI've tne old excuse was the NJX merger... The change this year is why most teams doing average and still developing. But they are winning and mostly because this league is new and very average at this point. If anything, MFA has benefited from the changes more and should be stronger. Let's be honest, it's all going to change again in 8 months so let it go. Next year the DA will be your target.
How many players are left on this team from last year? And from NJX? Pda has a huge roster, so this team has to be mostly new too. PF plays to win and they are mostly transitioned from last year. Solid team and top of bracket. Bucks are the only team that is in really bad shape, based on results.
How can Western NY, PDA, Penn Fusion, and others have significant changes if they develop players? Did they bring players up from lower level teams?
yes, I'm sure many new players from other clubs as well as many from younger teams who have never played together. Same issue as MFA and every other team dealing with age change. Would assume teams like PDA and PF lost majority of players to u15/02. Most of the high level teams from last year were made up of majority 02s.
Bethesda brackets are out. Talk about having no clue http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=53882&Gender=Girls&Age=14
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I can't believe nobody is talking about the eventual PF/CFC merge.... bunch of amateurs.
12:59 - If you are such a pro, why don't you fill us amateurs in?
Real rankings back online. http://youthsoccerrankings.us/No more silly got soccer.
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12:59 cfc/PF merger ... ok I'll bite. This merger is good for the clubs, but is this good for their members? They'll have the DA, then 1or 2 ECNL teams. I'm guessing only one - so they can put the best team forward. Lots of transitions for these kids.
YSR is back, and not surprisingly MF is ranked right after PDA. Haters gonna say that YSR is biased for MF! I'm a little weirded out, but I have faith in math.
NJ State Cup. Why?
How many girls play other sports like BBall in the winter? We are on a high end team and love the change of pace and believe it's a very healthy alternative to soccer in the winter. Plus I coach and keeps my weekends active... The DA doesn't mention no HS BBall too.
I dont think the rules rule out other sports but time and inability to fully commit I would assume would effectively rule it out.
depends how good of a basketball team it is. good teams will demand 100% dedication and that may not work with your club schedule. my kids used to play bball until u13 and then stopped as not to cause coaching drama.
No high school sports at all for Academy, I'd think. Not just the soccer.I am not sure you want a soccer practice following a hoops session anyway.
Any speculation on Bethesda? Got a couple on NJ any NY teams going down to DC for the weekend. No NJ/NY ECNL teams are making a trip.Seacoast United going for it?
Looks like Albertson fury going. 2nd flight. They did not do a good job with the pairings.
It just looks as if majority of the Virginia or Maryland teams are placed too high based on YSR. It may end up being a tough road ahead for them.. or some of the YSR will need to re-balance itself.Quick scan of the top bracket:Bryc elite VA 34.34Maryland United ECNL MD 34.97Seacoast United NH 34.4SUSA NPL NYE 35.02 Bethesda SC ECNL MD 33.7Continental fc ECNL pae 33.38hmms eagle fc legenda pae 33.09NJ wildcats lopez nj 32.76
The seeding are so off. FC Crush just beat NJ Wildcats in State Cuo final but they are four brackets below them. An example of how poorly the brackets have been set up.
Looks like Bethesda homered itself, but I suppose that's exerting the prerogative of the home team.
Crush beat that team by one goal. And that team has many more got soccer points. Sorry but they must have used got soccer as a gauge. Crush needed to be a better u13 team last year. Sorry. Bottom bracket. Hope you like the drive.
Wildcats are a kick-and-run outfit. They will have a hard time, they have not posted a win against a better team other than STA.
Wildcats beat SDFC to get to the finals
All those teams are weak. State cup worthless. They will get smoked at bethesda.
Nobody said Crush was better than Wildcats.Maybe they beat a better team.More props to Crush if true.Hardware is NICE.
CRUSH posters are always some coach trying to promote club. Typical money grab...
Not always. Some crazy dilusional crush parents sometimes as well.
That was quick coach. These parents pay your way based on your bs. Go home...
Not even close to a coach. Just saying as well as dilusional coaches at crush there are plenty of parents that are on the coolaid.
Are PDA the only solid teams left in this age group in NJ? Looks like Crew and Galaxy are playing steady and well.New York seems to have more strength outside of the ECNL clubs. SUSA, Quickstrike and Clarkstown seem to do much better than ECNL clubs
Anyone from Maryland or Virginia to comment on accuracy of Bethesda flights for the state teams? Hoping for good games from all teams.
Quickstrike, Susa and Clarkstown? no real strength there in any of the 3. NY is by far inferior to NJ. The top 5 teams in NJ would smoke the top 5 squads. Invites to NT camps and NT teams reflects this.
Which teams, other than PDA would smoke them?
Quickstrike has a tie against the MFA NPL team. Based on that one game the MFA ECNL team is a much better team than that Quickstrike team. Susa is a different story. I have seen them play and they would be competitive with the NJ teams. No idea on Clarkstown.
Quickstrike/nysc is 2 clubs, I believe. Old Quickstrike (good) and new quickstrike (NYSC - probably a bit better). NYSC has more ups than downs. Good technical skills.
Wildcats bringing in several guest players and finally scoring!
According to got soccer Wildcats are the #1 team in NJ. Don't be a hater.
Take the forward off of wildcats and you have no team. Good team with players who can get the job done but nothing else. If forward leaves the team, wildcats would be 15-20 in state.
Pretty sure Wildcats came in fourth place in EDP for the fall.
@November 10, 2016 at 8:36 AM - Seems so, both teams have some great strikers and each have a great keeper.
Newss sorry for format. Bracket A SUSA NPL G03 (NYE)NJ CRUSH FC HEAT NPL (NJ)OAKWOOD SC OAKWOOD G03 (CT)ALBERTSON FURY 03 ECNL (NYE)Bracket B Clarkstown 2003 ELITE (NYE)TSF ACADEMY 2003G (NJ)YANKEE UNITED F.C. REIGN NPL-03 (CT)CFC UNITED 2003 GIRLS NPL (CT)
$2 bet on Clarkstown to win!
maybe their weak bracket but not it all
What happened to news? Very weak accross tne board. I would never want to have to travel to this tournamnet on the worst travel weekend of year if out of state. And only clollege coaches who have family in New York region probably attend. Going forward this looks like a small regional play for teams wanting a warmup to start season in older age groups.
Colleges attending list seems much deeper than at EDP, at least
Thats not saying much. These events seem to mostly attract b level schools or soccer programs. Even at Bethesda i didnt see many coaches at u14 or u15. I think only ecnl and disney will get a big coach draw.
B level soccer schools can be a beautiful thing.
I'd rather drive to long island for a 4 game weekend than to buffalo for 2 games where my kid might or might not play that much. Best of luck to you 12:41. Some of these B level players as you would describe them could easily take your daughter's spot.
So the only path to big time soccer is ECNL and tournaments like Disney. This just reinforces the fact that soccer is a pay to play sport and a family's income is more important than athletic ability. This is the reason why our men's program is a failure.
@947 - This is 1241. I never said anything about the quality of teams or players, just that news is not a great tournament and at a terrible time because of the travel weekend. Could you imagine being a team that has to fly in and out this weekend? New York City airports, rental cars, hotels on tne busiest weekend of the year. It's a regional tournamanet. And as for your daughter taking my daughters spot, That's funny.
I think the Canada team drive downNot sure anyone flies into NEWSSRegional it is. But should be some good matchups.
At this age teams have had a long hard fall campaign. Many have rules on how many games they can play and they are done. At the older ages more quality teams, which you would expect.
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Since the teams have now played the fall season, shouldn't Got Soccer delete all points earned from January through June 2016. That would at least provide some semblance of legitimacy to their current rankings.
Gotsoccer deletes points on a rolling basis.. 12 or 18 months. Each event signifies when the points will be removed
With the BYT, all teams are holding points that were earned by a different team. A one time purge of those points, with the inclusion of the points earned in the fall, would provide some relevance to the current rankings, rather than waiting another 6-12 months. The point system is used by leagues and tournaments to place teams. If GotSoccer is going to have a ranking system, it should at least try to make it legitimate.
cough up. The best team won coming out of the strongest bracket. The Clarkstown bracket was a joke. Anonymous said...$2 bet on Clarkstown to win!November 15, 2016 at 7:59 PM
Would gladly cough up $2 - but not for a team that tied two games. Probably with the help of refs. Sad about Clarkstown! We should all put $5 towards some better training for old ISA players.
Not a SUSA parent but was at the NEWSS Tourney. Albertson ECNL lost to SUSA handily and SUSA tied a strong FC Crush who they beat 3-0 the week before and tied one of the stronger teams in CT. The Clarkstown bracket was very weak. The best team won, Congrats and hats off to all the teams in that bracket for great games. Isn't parity what should happen in a tournament bracket.
Thanks NJ CRUSH. Maybe your other team is the stronger one and should have been in top bracket...
ECNL layeth the smacketh downeth on PF/CFC merger.Not happening.
If you'd speak to the parents, Albertson was not playing their nat team player that just came back from nat team camp and a kid that went to region 1 select team. If you havent seen which teams played well and which were struggling, pls dont spread silly gossip!
7:38 - this is very relevant to my interests. Care to elaborate at all?
11:00 - Relevant to many. This is the second drive-by post that 7:38 has made on the subject without further elaboration. If what 7:38 says is true, perhaps the somewhat cryptic announcement with respect to the new turf fields in Downingtown that "Great Things Are Coming!" does not, or no longer applies to a merger.
Follow the money.
We've been following the money for six days now and it hasn't led anywhere. Anything else going on?
Its DecemberGive her a basketball
Basketball is a great transition sport over winter.
http://youthsoccerrankings.us/Why isn't PDA n npl listed in these rankings, or am I missing something?
Pda south npl is ranked #100Anyone get early acceptance to Jeff cup?
Jeff cup flights were up and then were taken down. Why do tournaments do this? Good thing I took a pic of her age group (03'). Are we allowed to post pics on this site?
Yes - Please post.
Chillax, Papi.Still real early.May be more accepted teams this year as they go to 4 weekends.
jeff cup brackets posted and not taken down.NJ at U14 is the weakest its ever been - no teams in the top 2 brackets!https://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?eventid=53445
Because all the good teams from last year all had to go u15.No pda ecnl team, they would be only one to make top bracket.I see stallions made the lowest bracket.
Wow. 2 new DA teams in the area? Cedar Stars as well as NYSC got the nod. What will happen to Match Fit?
They got the rank of PDA teams in reverse.. according to YSR should be nova, shore, crew. They are all close in ranking (.25 points) yet spread in weird brackets. PDA haters everywhere.
Cedar stars has had it for some time now. Don't see anything about nysc.
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Boys side, 8:12Can be a leadin to girls side being added
It is extremely important for players who aspire to play in college to play at tournaments like Jefferson Cup. In the spring season the college coaches are focusing on the high school freshmen and sophomores. If your team is playing in one of the top 3 flights you are in great position to be showcased if not this year then next year.
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Coming from a younger age group to ask those who have btdt about the training center.I see a lot make this the #1 thing you want to be invited too for U14 and under. What about other things like PDP and ODP? When exactly does the training center start and how many times do they meet up to practice? Is it year round? The only thing I know is that it is free and you have to be invited (does this come directly from the coach or the US Soccer). I also heard that it's about who your clubs DOC is/knows ect. Plus I saw people complaining about the girls not being up to par on this blog recently. Do they add new girls often? Do I have to be in an ECNL club to participate? How many people can the send from each age group? Just curious how it all works.
Sure. Glad to help.What training center?
How was training center this week?
NTC - basically a preview of GDA tryouts at PDA next month.
About 15 girls from 04 playing at NTC. Take about 5 from the north, who will go to WC, then another 5 from the south at cedar stars and leaves 5 for PDA. The GDA will be easy to make, plenty of spots to go around now that they have created separate age groups. Not very impressive if you make at this age, just another high level league.
Did Cedar stars 2003 Team get into Jefferson Cup? Not listed on acceptance list.
Do they even have a team?
Sure - they have 2 teamsFrom the rankings I wouldnt think they would qualify for JEFF
Give cedar stars some time, we need an alternative to PDA and MF blew it. The GDA will be horrible the first two years anyway. Pda will have a pretty strong team, although many are considering waiting and seeing.
When is cedar stars tryouts for GDA?
CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 03 GOLD (OS)GOL SA 03 ECNL (GA)MARYLAND UNITED FC 2003 ECNL (MD)SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 AP (MA) BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 03/04 (VA)CASL 03 ECNL (NC)MICHIGAN JAGUARS GREEN '03 (MI)PENN FUSION SA ECNL 2003 (PAE)Looks like a real strong group of teams. Cant be many complaints about seeding
Jersey teams got screwed - what else is new?
Interesting that you think we got screwed. Out with PDA ecnl who didn't apply who deserves to be in here
Just look at Region 1 Gotsoccer ranks
Got soccer rankings are so far off. Nobody cares. Give some specifics.
Look on the bright side, probably why PDA encl didn't get accepted. They are 30 in state and Jeff cup said no thanks, got soccer says you are not good enough to pay. Do you really believe in got soccer?
Here's a serious issue for all you brofessors (including moms) to comment on. What do you do with the athletically and technically advanced player whose level of emotional development does not match her level of soccer development (i.e. a typical adolescent with an athletic gift, not a high end product under development)? For example, when 8th graders are committing to colleges when some of their peers have not even decided if they want to go to college; and when GDA may demand 4 days a week and perhaps a lengthy commute for practice; and when ECNL is also demanding of time and effort; but little Mia also has other interests, including just hanging out with girlfriends of the non-soccer kind. What do you do to accommodate the girl without the player being completely left out of the game by 11th or 12th grade when attitudes and priorities may be different? We are there, but see a pipeline (no offense to the Marylanders) that presumes a linear flow of leagues and tournaments from rec to college without bends, elbows, Y's and T's (e.g. no "gap year" or alternative models). Perhaps too serious of a question for this Blog, but have at it.
PDA ecnl clearly didn't apply. Jesus your not very bright
It was a jokeBut its true - the Jersey teams were slotted lower than some of their counterparts (ISA, HMMS) from other states.
@219 Try not to worry and let her have some fun. The percentages are heavily stacked against you for 1) national team and/or 2) full college scholarship. Everyone believes their kid is going to be the next star, but eventually reality cashes its check.At the 8th grade level, if you do not have a solid technical and fundamentals background, then you better be an elite athlete with speed. Going to a competitive club with a toxic environment will just lead to burn out. Do your homework. Good luck.
The emotional (taking the sport more seriously/putting aside social endeavors) takes over at some point, 2:19 - but is variable across teams. I would just say get her to the best level you can in terms of team play (winning AND development) while not taking away all other parts of her life.You demand that your child/player spends certain number of hours on schoolwork/keeps up a certain level in the classroom. Do the same with soccer. There can be a balance of the three - and YES, in time the SOCIAL will be third - her friends will change - etc. This has to be done without her feeling you have yanked it away from her totally. One thing about sports at the youth level - you dont get to do it again. There is a certain sadness in the statement, "maybe I should have...........". Getting them on the same page with you with regards to this can be tough - frank conversations being the important thing (but continue to make it fun)Good luck
The only ones in the end that win are the athletes with skill and speed. Look at Mallory, athletic, fast and has skill. Can't teach the first two, even 4 days a week and 10 months a year. She probably played multiple sports too...
Thanks to the brofessors commenting above on the burnout issue. A discussion that makes this Blog useful.
Athleticism makes all the difference in the world with two players of equal technical ability. However, the ball still moves faster than any player can run. Outstanding technical ability combined with a high soccer IQ can just as easily elevate a player to the top. True, they will not be playing outside or up top, but as a CM or holding mid, they can put their mark on the game. Think Pirlo, Xavi, etc.A team full of technical geniuses can play some very high quality soccer with long periods of possession. But, that being said, they can lose to a dump and chase team that scores on the counter or gets an early goal. That's what makes the game beautiful.
Beautiful does not have to be tragic. Technical geniuses come in every position and in every size, just show them the light.
With the rise of GDA and the not so far off death of High School Soccer, will anyone worthwhile be playing HSSoccer in 5 yrs?
@113 Yes, the multi-sport athletes that colleges love to gobble up.
1:13, 7:46 - And yes, those who do not live within a reasonable commute of a GDA or ECNL, and may not only have other athletic interests, but also other life interests as well.
What's up with DA and ECNL working together? I heard clubs that plan on doing both are having issues.. Will this even be possible for a club to have same age group playing for both. Seems to be major issues with all of this.
Indoor state cup next monday! Go hard working teams!
10:45 what types of issues - other than fielding high quality teams
I heard World Class in fall (U15) will only have ECNL not DA. They will tm up with NYCFC and make a DA tm thru them.
If there is an official girl’s merger between World Class and NYCFC, the ECNL won’t allow World Class to keep ECNL. They will have to pick between ECNL and GDA. It looks likes WC will keep the girls in the ECNL.If they have an unofficial partnership where they just send the better players across the street to NYCFC for GDA then that will work. But does NYCFC really want a GDA?
Not sure ecnl wants to kick out clubs right now
Im just relaying what I heard. So I guess nycfc does want a DA tm.
So World Class and Match Fit are both passing on GDA? It does not say much for GDA when two of the higher ranked programs in our region withdraw.
Affects the entire DA scenario, as teams like PDA have one less local opponentBad, but they will manage
If nycfc is running world class da how is that not local?
WC technically still has DA but they are using the NYCFC brand. Just like PDA is using Sky Blue brand. I wouldn't be surprised if CSA latches on to Red Bulls or something as well.
If WC hands over the DA team to NYCFC - it will be a huge brand loss for WC. Right now Both clubs are in Boys DA - and as expected in a short amount of time NYCFC already cannibalized WC's DA team - up to a point where the games are blowouts.CSA does not need to apply for ECNL. CSA is taking over lots of clubs in NJ any NY - and soon will most likely be getting another DA license to play in both Monmouth as well as Bergen counties (Ramsey?). They have money and the National Team coach on staff. They get what they want.
I heard CSA and NJ Crush are merging and it's a done deal. ECNL or DA for CSA in Bergen co area maybe?
@12:29CSA in Ramsey, DA? Where did u hear this?
Bergen county - most likely Ramsey, NJ. CSA already has Boys DA in Monmouth and in Bergen. It makes sense they will apply for DA for the Girls program in Bergen.
There was a mini press release from CSA about doing NJ Bergen location from U14 and higher - taking over crush teams.
CSA is already DA in monmouth for girls starting in the fall. They will allow them to be DA in Bergen as well?
No. Just crush letting go of older age group because they can't keep teams after 8th grade.
Crush also let go of the screamer coach as I believe he was trying to poach players for his own program.
Doesnt Crush have like seven teams U15 and above?Merger should help with facilities.
so will Crush/CSA be ECNL in bergen co in fall?
Where is this Crush-CSA announcement that everyone seems to know about? Can someone provide a link or the content of the article? How would they be in ECNL when CSA is not an ECNL club nor is Crush. Unless that is also in this big announcement.
Crush in complete disarray. No good coaches. Not getting ecnl. DA will be at the shore. Dont get left holding the bag. Screamer was only good coach. Most had left or leaving soon.
Hehfunny stuffMind your own store.
@7:42 LMAOFYI...presser was sent out today
Not much news, just another one of many clubs. If the few girls are good enough to go GDA from CRUSH, why wouldn't they go to WC or PDA, both better and both much closer. Plus they would have even uglier uniforms. I'm having a hard time seeing why this is so big? Anyone can try out for any GDA team and they would welcome the best players, you don't need an affiliation with a super club with one GDA.
@8:05 I agree with you. I do not understand why this is even news, let alone "good" news for Crush. The release says that the CSA Bergen teams will play EDP or NPL like they already do at Crush. And it sounds like it's the same coaching staff. So they go from Orange to Green? I am not trying to start something, I am truly curious what I am missing here.
I think it's for marketing the club and keeping the paying clients as long as possible. makes them believe they have a future path towards GDA. I'm sure they will try and get ecnl too. Ecnl should open up now.
8:05 - CSA may bring GDA to bergen as they have 2 BDA now, both Monmouth and Bergen now. It may change the scene if WC decides to drop GDA. What I heard is that WC is still planning to form GDA, but the decision may lead into they leave from ECNL. If so, Some WC girls may consider CSA/Crush next year. It may bring another big tryout drama.
This is only good news for the Crush owner. Players don't leave his club like theyve been doing in highschool so his pockets get fatter. Players will think they have a better pathway into DA but I don't see that being the case. And like someone made the point. If a player is good enough for DA. Why do they need CSA? ....PDA and WC around....or even MF for ecnl
should be interesting how many of the high quality players move to DA - i know playing HS for a many girls is important and their DA commitment requirement takes that away. At least ECNL understood this. What will happen to the level of ECNL play? will it be the new NPL level of play? and what happens to NPL?I heard the ECNL clubs that are now DA will just be moving their ECNL teams up (of course outside players will have the opp to tryout) to DA and their NPL teams to ECNL. I believe this re-alignment will potentially cause some DA clubs to drop ECNL and other NPL clubs now to move into ECNL. For example strong NPL clubs like SUSA, SDFC, Crush, NYSC would move to ECNL.any thoughts out there?
How many new ECNL clubs will be announced before fall 17? Is the increase going to be a lot? I tried to find some answers , but couldn't. I agree with the above comment. I have a feeling NPL is basically going to be the new ECNL.
The fundamental issue with getting into ECNL is the politics side of getting in. How does NJ, a hub of soccer, only have 2 Clubs in ECNL? Because PDA don't want anyone else in it. MF had to give people money (hush hush) in order to get in, that's no secret. Is it wrong? Depends on your opinion, they did what they had to in order to get in. But is it right that PDA monopolize the league in the area to suit their own gains? No. It's a shame as a few clubs would do well in ECNL but it's about who you know and what you're willing to do to get in.
@1:02pm - agree but the landscape has changed with DA now which may force ECNL to open up a bit because many of the current ECNL clubs will be moving their ECNL teams to DA diluting the level of talent in ECNL. I think very few clubs with DA and ECNL will be able to put the level of quality on the field that ECNL has come to know. I am sure it will take a few years to filter out.
1:13pm. We can but hope!
9;05Crush is a non profit
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