Ecnl clubs will be wide open at this age group, except Galaxy. Galaxy looks to have strong core group, probably 14 of 18ish. Would assume they go to 20 by u14, which leaves spots there. WC and MF are hurting in this age group and will be for a long time. They have tons of space and always will, no need to rush...
Nova tryouts were less than anticipated. As a Nova parent it can be frustrating to see families given misleading advice by coaches that are essentially holding back a players growth. Our roster currently has openings in it that could be filled by players looking to play for a quality coach under a proven brand (PDA). ECNL is not something you should go and actively seek out, if your kid is legit it will all happen in good time. I know the path we will be taking, and if you are A south jersey kid PDA south will get you there if you deserve it. Does anyone think that an above average player on a low level ECNL club is going to get more attention from colleges when the time comes? They won't, they will go where they belong, on a low level D1 program........buyer beware.
11:20 Totally agree! Nice to hear a PDA parent's true opinion about the ECNL process. Good clubs will get you where you want your daughter to be.
so how many girls total were trying out for Matchfit last night? what was the turnout? are they going to have enough for a full team? for two teams?
Who cares about the machfit tryouts??? No one give it up already....
9:32 You can't look at the total numbers that tried out. You need to look at the # of Current Players - New Players trying out. This is the info I got and are all assumptions.1. PDA Nova: About 35 attendees - 1 Current NPL Team(14 Players) = 21 new tryouts2. SJEB: About 40 attendees - 2 Current Teams NPL & EDP(28 Players) = 12 new tryouts3. Rage/Rush: About 60 attendees - 3 Current Teams 2 EDP, 1 SJ League(42 Players) = 18 new tryouts4. Cherry Hill: 3 Current Teams 1 EDP, 2 SJ League(42 Players) Tryouts still to occur.
What is the ability of average player? does this player just kick the ball under pressure? OR does she hold it and then find the right time to pass to her team. As your child gets older its about touch and decision making. I've yet to see anyone mention one of the most important facts about playing in college. GRADES if she doesn't have them she is not going to her dream school. IF two kids have exactly the same skill who do you think they will take?
@11:43 by the 6 new kids that showed to mf tryouts, I agree with you no one cares about mf. who holds an "open" tryout and has the current team wearing their uniform? njx has come far but the few who has an emotional tie to the team and trying to keep it together "as is" has ruined any chances of better quality players joining. if they are looking to keep the play date going then go back to the town team. the proof is in the numbers of the "open tryout"
so only 6 new players at MF tryouts? maybe the coach has players already selected. they're a pretty darn good team. probably don't need to change much.
@121 You are right. Not from NJX, but a competitor. The team is picked, just like Galaxy is chosen for next year. Maybe an attendee gets in the door, but usually they get placed on second team.
Did Galaxy only beat CH by 1 goal is that correct?
Cherry Hill is a good team. Why the surprise? Lots of good athletes on the team.
Simply enjoying the game is best. With coaches - “A coach is someone who tells you what you don't want to hear, who has you see what you don't want to see, so you can be who you have always known you could be.” - T. LandryWith ability.. If you can't run, you can't run. If your not tough, you're not tough. Unfortunately, parents, neither can be taught. What can be taught is hard work and sportsmanship - stick with those and you have a good start mom and dad.TY
So if I'm looking at the landscape next year the PDA's and Matchfit's teams move out of the EDP league and will be Northeast Pre-ECNL/NPL with the PA and NY ECNL club teams correct? What is left on the EDP-NPL division will be NJ Rush, SDFC, TSF, SJEB, Rage/Rush, STA, IGFA, Cherry Hill. That's a pretty strong group of teams. Now which league bracket will be stronger when tournament crews look evaluate Northeast Pre-ECNL/NPL or EDP-NPL. Glad we have this many options in NJ.
@1:21 Your mistaken, the better talent is looking to play with the same quality of players. Lack of commitment, un athletic, and weak players will not last that much longer. If MF wants to be taken seriously, they would see a change is needed before the stronger kids move on, happens in every club!
ECNL does not matter until u15 on. Over half of the kids there now will be gone by 16 - a fact. Spend your money where you wish, but understand that most things in this life are earned... not given.
Yes but the question will be if there will be enough roster availability for an above average player at U15. That's why it's important to start at U13 Pre-ECNL. This way can have a reality check to continue ECNL or not by U15 or revert to a regular team with close by friends. So you can spend $$$ now and save later or save now and spend later.
Agreed ECNL doesn't matter until u-15 if it matters at all. There are Kool aid drinkers and non-Kool aid drinkers. I am someone on the fence about ECNL... i can see the good and the bad but at this point, i don't think it is the right thing for my kid. There will certainly be a lot of changes/attrition at all of clubs - not just the top clubs over the next few years as parents position their children for what they think is important. (Let's not kid ourselves, a lot of this maneuvering is driven by parents, not the kids.) Important point above from 3:57. You cant teach someone to run fast... That is true but some girls that are fast now will not be fast in 3-4 years and girls that are slower on the relative scale will become faster on a relative basis. Some girls will stay the same. But what is probably more important than absolute speed is your daughters quickness/ acceleration. Hard to predict where your daughter will end up on the relative speed/quickness spectrum which is why you should focus on skills at the younger ages. That way, if your daughter is fast, quick and tough, she can compete. So find a coach that emphasizes skills development and helps to develop their field vision and Soccer IQ. But most importantly, make sure your daughter is having fun. That is what you can do to ensure your daughter has the best chance to succeed at u-15 and on when, if your daughter loves it and aspires to more, it actually matters.
Roster room is something that those who don't belong there only need be concerned with. Thank you for making my point. Fear & insecurity drive too many individuals.
CH just beat Nova 2-0. Congrats to CH.
Really? Cherry Hill?
Fear and Insecurity is not what is driving individuals providing hopes and dreams are, and there is nothing wrong with a parent providing their child the best opportunities. Parents know if there child is not that quality of a player by this age those are the ones not attending tryouts.
Some parents need people to tell them that their daughter is good.
Freehold Arsenal Blue (EDP) are potentially looking for a couple of talented and dedicated girls to join the team. If interested you can contact the coach (Freehold Soccet or got soccer web sites)
I really did not think that NJX-CH would be going to the semi finals.. Not because they are bad teams but because their style of play. This is why the game of soccer is so unfair but great, it will keep you on your toes.. Congrats to both teams!!
Yes Congrats to Cherry Hill and NJX. Cherry Hill probably had the hardest bracket to reach the Semi's so I predict them facing Galaxy in the finals. Give credit were credit is due people.
Congrats to what? Winning? Ill give credit to where credit is due and that certainly isn't to CH- or even Nova. I watched the state cup game.. What an embarassment to this sport. Yes I'm a father but I'm also a fan of the game. Whether you get professional training or not, how can you support the type of style that many of the teams out there play? When you buy certain type of cleats that your son or daughter wants bc he or she's favorite player wears them or when you buy a arsenal or Barcelona jeresy for your daughter, do you actually look futher than reaching for your wallet. Do any of you watch the game? Watching half of these teams play on the weekend is such a slap in the face of the most beautiful game in the world. I'm not taking away the effort each player puts in during their time on the field or their efforts, but as a parent how can you really enjoy watching such poor soccer. Is living through your child's success that important to you? I'm sorry but I could never stand by certain styles of play, especially at that level. You think as a parent who has a child starting out at the young ages, the whole kick and run thing would soon be gone once you reach a certain age, I feel like its now getting worse! Its so embarrassing. Teams like cherry hill and nova are a joke to this sport. This clip is exactly what you are.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gETP14z515Q
3:57 Sore Loser! Since you are fan and have seen these teams tell me what teams you think play your style. It's U12 buddy habits will take time to break.
Somebody (3:57) needs a hug. I definitely don't want him around my kids-what a dream killer. I feel sorry for his own. Just a sad outlook for 12yo. No one would ever measure up to this guy's unrealistic standards. So why does he even go to the games? Just stay home, and save yourself from the misery.
@3:57 You are such a hypocrite, then why have your daughter play at this level for this team you think she is good enough take her over to Barcelona or Arsenal. LOLKeep her at home playing the PlayStation or something so she can watch and learn good soccer. LOLI feel sorry for the parents around you.
3.57You may be right but nobody wants to hear that. Better to keep it to yourself. Maybe you should get a team together and coach them yourself.
Makes sense. CH had the tough bracket, but rage, Galaxy sta and crew are all over there and CH hasn't beat one of them and played everyone of them this year. What a stupid comment. How did you just do against sta?
a lot has changed since we played those teams and we had to beat nova, who beat nj rush who is like the best team in the country. I saw this on got soccer, so I know its true. Oh and we have to play njx who has beaten us this year, but they can't beat anyone else. so yes, our side of bracket is really hard.
IGFA is on that side of bracket and they must be very good because they tied CH in league.
When is rage playing tsf, should be a good game. Rage takes it. I take Galaxy over sta, but sta can come out and play. If it goes to rage and Pda in semis, rage has advantage. Pda is a turf only team, rage is a kick and run field team.
Yet Nova beat IGFA 5-1
I believe the igfa comment was meant to be sarcastic - looks foolish to respond nova...
Just cause you win doesn't mean your the best team and just cause you loose doesn't mean your the worse.It's hard for all teams to play their very best every single game at u12.It's a tricky age some girls are bigger than others which could mean their stronger and have harder shots and yes that will help them now but once those other girls with skills and knowledge hit their growth spur and catch up it won't mean anything.some of these teams can't even score goals unless they get a free kick but I guess some parents don't care how they win cause they think winning is everything....
Judging by the over 900 posts in this blog it is obvious that the parents or parent from Cherry Hill are by far the most pathetic and desperate for attention.
When does gotsoccer recalculate points and rankings? It's been a while.
You got that right @10:17.
who won the sdfc galaxy matchup?
I coach some of the players and a team sometimes mentioned herein though not in a negative light. I am also an ODP coach, and have coached at the college level and played the beautiful game my entire life. If I may, I'd like to offer just a few suggestions. First, sometimes the things spoken up here are way beyond what is acceptable amongst good soccer people. Guessing results or congratulating good play amongst u12 kids is within bounds. Hammering on a coach, cheering on the demise of a team is, I'm sure we can all agree, way beyond boundaries of good folk. How we act on here is sometimes how we act in front of kids and friends. Try to take the high road and be great parents to everyone even when it is hard to do so.Secondly, ALL the teams mentioned here on this thread should be proud. You've played good soccer and you are in and amongst the best in NJ. But never forget that the landscape is always changing and a top team in 2013 might struggle in 2014. It might be as simple as a keeper, or girls going through puberty, or a coaching change or something more serious. It might be a coach who is tired of the same formation or player positions and, at the cost of losing, is going to drive home more development in forcing kids to learn new positions. And sometimes those teams come back very strongly later. Ultimately the winning and losing is for egos. Egos of the kids, parents, coaches, fans, etc. And that is not a bad thing, but for kids looking to achieve the next level, its about play quality. High level prospecting coaches are looking for are kids who play the game. When these college coaches you mention have a chance to watch your kid play, they could care less the result. They probably don't know the score themselves, as they are just focused on the kids, who's making plays, who's playing one-touch, who's making proactive runs, who is tracking back hard to get behind the ball defensively. All that matters is who can play the game. As a coach, I would always track prospective players as they walk off at half time or after the game. Sometimes I'd spy on them as they are spoken to by their coach and then how they engage with their teammates after the match. I love kids who are the first on the scene to build back up a goalie who gave up a weak goal. I also want to see how they react post-game and whether they play the blame game or if they are super positive irregardless of the score. I love kids who hug their teammates as they walk off and genuinely love to be out there with their coaches, players and parents. These are the kids we seek at ODP, and at college programs. Please try to avoid getting hung up on wins and losses. No one enjoys losing, but most important at this young age of 12 years old is they have a great time, they have friends who love them who motivate them to give their best, and coaches who develop their skills and passion for the sport.These are a few things to consider. Great job to all the teams on some wonderful soccer.
9:02, well said, thank you.
9:02 I commend you for writing such a GREAT post! Thank you and well said!
any fun games today? any upsets?
Where are the TSF parents?
what happened with TSF?
Who cares about tsf
Rage beat them for advancementSdfc bear rage
Very quiet on this blog, with tryouts almost coming to a close I assumed more comments would come out I guess a lot of change is going on.
I know there was some questions if WC- NJ was going to have their own Pre- ECNL and ECNL teams. Looks like there will be just the one out of NY.Most assumed so anyway, but I heard from a source last week.
Sorry for the stupid questions. but can someone give me a quick break down of the difference between, MAPS, EDP, NPL. I know how ecnl works...thanks
where is WC-NJ?
@105Npl is top division of EDP, Edp is other divisions and maps is bottom division. NE NPL is a closed NPL to only ECNL clubs.
SO NPL is top of EDP? Then why doesn't top U12 teams play NPL instead of EDP...im confused, sorry
NY NPL and NE NPL are closed off leagues where whole clubs enter their teams into every age group. You have to fulfill certain criteria to be a part of those leagues.EDP allow any team in and do not follow the club model.EDP is an NPL league but it is not run by US Club Soccer (it is run independently by MAPS/MSSL). I believe it is the only NPL league in the country that is run this way. Hope that clarifies.
NE ECNL/NPL & NY ECNL/NPL are under the umbrella of all the ECNL clubs and are closed off. Only 1 Top division for each league. (Private Country Club)lolEDP is a league under the NPL and is ran by MSSL. This league is open and based on a team's competitive history will be placed accordingly by brackets called NPL-1st Divisions, EDP-2nd Division, Maps-3rd Division. I think.Both leagues will be competitive at U13/U14 it's not until U15/U16 when you will see more of a diversity of competition between both leagues where ECNL clubs will lore the talented players.
Is it true that NJ Stallions and Crush have merged clubs? Trying to get more info with this..
I highly doubt it 1:25pm. Where did you hear this from? Nothing on Stallions website and the Crush website appears down.
are the NJX/MatchFit tryouts over? did they select the team yet? anybody know what's going on there?
Thanks for info. I was doing my research as well and it looks like he will be running crush and taking his 5 teams from the NJ Stallions over to Crush. Crush already have two u12 teams at this age group and the u12 Americans team is also joining crush come u13. Not saying I care but that means they will have 4 u13 teams next year. Looks like they are going into a strong direction
Matchfit Montclair is nothing to be interested in. If you had any talent you would be on the Matchfit team down south. That's where their better teams are located. For the rumors about tsf and Sdfc rage, it looks to be true. 3 players from tsf have committed to the rage. Guess tsf is on the verge of losing their talent.
He is a complete nut on the sidelines, the term "joystick coach" comes to mind. Constantly tells his players what to do, never lets them make a decision on their own and berates them for every small mistake. I don't understand coaches who feel the need to constantly talk in a game, if you do your job in training during the week then the need to talk in a game should be minimal surely?
TSF parent here, of course there were players that tried out for other teams (as there were player from other teams that came to our try-out)My sense is that the key players will remain on the team, but of course time will tell.
I know plenty of kids that have left his program because because couldn't take the "stress". Even w the younger kids.
@1244. What happened? did your player not make the team? why bash a team so obviously? MF has a few teams, and they all have talent including the Montclair team.It bothers me when parents through out daggers that will just hurt other young players. AS for movement, there will be alot of movement these next two years, and top players will wind up in the hands of PDA, WC and MF ECNL and NE NPL teams, and the other PDA teams.
To the post about "coaching" during gamesDid you honestly just say you don't get why coaches speak during the game and if you do your job during training that it hould be enough? Are you clueless??????Go watch a professionals game you idiot. Go watch college you dummy. If a player who is on a full ride scholarship to Notre Dame gets yelled at throughout the entire game from his or her coach- if a professional player who makes over 200,000 dollars a week gets told what to do throughout the entire game, what is it to say to a youth team or player. This game doesn't have "timeouts" to reorganize a team. Halftime is 3 minutes long which means there is no time what so ever to nail everything down. The stallions coach does yell but have you actually listened to what he's yelling? Or are you just assuming he's crazy bc the tone of his voice. Have you ever tried to talk across a football field that is 120 yards long and 70 yards wide? With parents screaming most of the time? So its obviously going to sound bad. Oh and btw- id rather have a coach who NEVER once has sat down during any of my daughters games, showing passion and energy on the sideline ANYDAY rather than a coach who says his two words, never stands up, never coaches, never shows any energy. This is youth soccer, kids feed off energy. An for your last and final lesson of the day, did you ever think WHY other coaches don't speak during te games they coach. So many coaches aren't confident in what they are doing which means the last thing they are going to do is scream out instructions in front of another coach, their parents, the other parents...etc Most of the coaches who don't talk during game days are the same coaches who don't expect anything but the ball being sent over top all game. No organization, no technical breakdowns are needed to explain as it a crap show the entire time. Parents, there are a few coaches who bet sit down during their games. Coaches who yell a lot doing games but maybe listen to what their yelling. Wht type of coach would you want coaching your daughter. The shy type, no energy, thinks a 12 yr old girl can learn the game with only 5 words during a 80 minute game of a coach who is always on your daughter, making sure a team is full of energy, organization, structure, making sure they are executing wht they are working are during training and if they are not, the coach is going to be upset about it. Spend your money where you choose. But honestly, think wisely for those 3,000 clubs out there.
9:58am. Your first sentence is referring to pro teams and colleges, this is an U12 girls forum. They need to learn the game during training with correct coaching. At the ages of 18 and above they understand the game a lot better than a 11-12 year old girl and they are adults. They can take constant coaching and yelling at them. The idea of constant talk from the sidelines being mistaken for passion is very short sighted. If our coach were to constantly tell our players where to pass the ball, where to move, highlight every little mistake then i would leave. And like 8:37am posted, some players have left because they can't deal with it. Granted some can deal with the tough love style of coaching, some can't. Different strokes for different folks but i fear you are tarnishing everyone with the same brush.And to clarify i said "I don't understand coaches who feel the need to constantly talk in a game". I get why they may have to coach every now and then but to fill every single second with talking is not necessary. That to me is the hallmark of a passionate (no doubt), poor coach whose players need constant direction. A team should not be reliant on their coach, i have no doubt if his team played a game on their own with him not in attendance then they would struggle.
The coach from Stallions may be a great coach, but my daughters team did play against them this spring and i heard him say multiple times out loud "this is embarrassing" The way your playing is embarrassing.that is not positive
Here is a great article highlighting my point, with Claudio Reyna, Sam Snow and Ian Barker all giving out points that completely contradict 9:58ams post.http://www.socceramerica.com/article/59569/the-most-important-coaching-tool-ever.htmlI've said various things to the opposing coach during the postgame handshake: The standard “Good game” … “We got lucky” … “Your team played great.” … Or sometimes just a handshake and no words. When I ref I usually just say “You’re welcome” when coaches thank me during the postgame ritual. But at times I’ve wanted to ask these questions: “Do you even like soccer? … Do you enjoy coaching? … Do you like being around children?” I want to know because for an hour I’ve watched them prowl the sidelines, screaming, chagrining, huffing and puffing.They’d probably sincerely answer "yes" to my questions. Perhaps they simply don’t know what they look like out there or they actually believe that’s how a coach should act. I get that it’s difficult to control one’s emotions around sports, and that we have an innate urge to advise and correct children. But we also know how counterproductive it is to coach in such fashion. If yelling at kids -- when to pass, where to run, when to shoot, when not to dribble -- was the recipe for developing talent, American youth soccer would be producing superstars by the thousands. And while I think that overall youth coaching has improved significantly over the years, far too many children -- while they're supposed to be enjoying the game and trying to figure out how to master it -- are being interrupted by the screaming, prowling, gesticulating coach.“Part of that comes from the models of coaching they see live on TV, usually other sports but also soccer,” says Sam Snow, U.S. Youth Soccer Coaching Director. “The camera pans on coaches when they’re animated.” Says Ian Barker, the NSCAA Director of Coaching Education, “Watch the game so that you can help the players with the game. If you’re very animated, you’re probably not watching the game critically, you’re just joy-sticking. … The coach should open up the folding chair and sit.” Before his 2010-13 stint as U.S. Soccer’s Youth Technical Director, Claudio Reyna traveled the world to observe the most successful youth programs: “At the best places, the youth coaches are sitting down. And if they get up to give instructions, they sit right back down again. "When the game is going on, all the coaches should just sit down. I think if you ask any player at the youth level, if the coach is on the sidelines standing, it brings tension. You can sense it." So here’s the most important coaching tool to bring to the field:
There is a difference between positive outspoken coaches vs. coaching negativity. If your playing at a high level and your daughter cannot take criticism then it may not be the right environment for her. Like someone mentioned when looking at teams or attending tryouts its not the club you play for it's the coach.
I agree, a player should be able to take criticizm but there are ways of putting it. You can criticize a player in a positive way but from my experience of us playing his teams it's criticism in the meanest way, it's just berating with no form of coaching and fixing the problem. A kid knows when they make an error, they don't need it highlighted every time and they certainly don't need to be told that it's embarrassing for the coach.End of the day the ones defending his actions are either parents on his team, or him himself. No outsider can defend such actions in my opinion.
What is PDA looking like for galaxy? Any player movement anyone knows about? What's the chances of the players who don't make galaxy, stay with PDA?
Wow did Coach take offense in his rant at May 7, 2015 at 9:58 AM! Coach, you spend too much time on these blogs. How about the chair throwing part? Is that out of passion too?
Galaxy is one of the best teams why would there be any change unless parents are unhappy with playing time and see reality hit them to move on. Plus they move into the Pre-ECNL bracket next fall so all those ECNL club teams will no longer be seen anymore unless in a tournament.
Galaxy players will stay with PDA. No point going to other clubs. Even B team C team at PDA can't beat top teams in state.What I want to know more about is SJ Barons. They are sinking ship.. Too bad as that team was good. Is everyone else worried about this rush/rage partnership. I mean lets face it, rage just stomped on tsf by 5 goals!!! Imagine when they get the best of rush???? I find it funny- rage cost around 1,800 a year to play on their team. Tsf cost 3,000. If I was a tsf parent I would be lonnggggg gone.
Galaxy players will stay with PDA. No point going to other clubs. Even B team C team at PDA can't beat top teams in state.What I want to know more about is SJ Barons. They are sinking ship.. Too bad as that team was good. Is everyone else worried about this rush/rage partnership. I mean lets face it, rage just stomped on tsf by 5 goals!!! Imagine when they get the best of rush???? I find it funny- rage cost around 1,800 a year to play on their team. Tsf cost 3,000. If I was a tsf parent I would be lonnggggg gone.
Whoever posted about Claudia reyna comment about NOT coaching during game day.. Is the same reason why PDA coaches don't speak during game day. If you have a team that has all that talent, ability, knowledge, etc you don't need to coach them. Just sit down, grab your pay check and on your way. I like the coaching on the sideline. My daughter is 12. She better be told what to do. If my daughter fails on her exams, I'm the first to question her teachers. If my daughter continues to either DO the same things or MAKE the same mistakes during her game and as her father I can see what needs to be said, its very upsetting when the "professional coach" doesn't say a word to her. What am I paying you for? I hate coaches who don't coach.. Imagine
There are many players at TSF who pay $0. All the players paying full price are supplementing them.
@11:12 Rumor Mill has NJ Rush and SJ Barons both have a few players moving to ECNL clubs in PA.Merger rush/rage is a hype right now but will slowly dwindle as time goes on.
11:21am. Who is to say the coach isn't correcting the mistake quietly on a 1 to 1 basis rather than yelling it out in front of everyone for all to see? Your reasoning is precisely why this country has not produced a World Class player as the majority are coached by screamers who fear making mistakes and don't develop creativity.
If my daughter fails on her exams, I'm the first to question her teachers.There is the problem. Always blaming others. What you need to teach your daughter is personal accountability. Go look it up
Gents they are U12 personal accountability, being yelled at during games, pushing them to play the game, etc. Let them just enjoy there pre-teens.
This team has not coached a WorldClass player because the training sucks in most clubs-including those so called "A Licensed coaches."Over the top win at all cost Coaches that occupy 95% of youth soccer.And then on top of that you have those clubs that do nothing then teach girls how to play in a two touch robotic system.a coach yelling on the side line is the least of our worries.
meant to say this "country has not produced a Worldclass Player"
136 Disagree the WMNT team has great world class players and many of the youth girls in this country look up to them. Name another sport in America that has given young girls something to strive for and follow.
@ May 7, 2015 at 11:46 AM Which 'Rush' team are you referring to? Heard one player from SJEB 'may' leave the team. They still will be a great team, may even get better without her. You never know what talent is jumping onto different teams right now. Also, Have a feeling all the 'pre-ecnl' teams may not even get to face the highest of talent/competition isolating themselves into their own bracket. Not all ECNL teams are filled with the best of the best. NPL may be where the highest competition is.
228-There is only one Rush team right now. Rage FC does not become Rush until Fall. Yes there are apparently 2 players leaving SJEB both playing up.
A coach pointed out to me that he is not on the field - the girls are. He may say a couple of things during a game strategy-wise but most of the time he is silent. He says the girls are the ones who are playing and they need to learn how to work together, figure things out, get themselves out of jams and be creative on the field. He can show them things during practice and training but ultimately it is up to the team and individual players to do the thumbing and execution. I personally like that approach.
It is highly unlikely there will be any movement to/from Galaxy. PDA recruits from outside, not from within.
What are next year's roster size? Do they go up?
It is highly unlikely there will be any movement to/from Galaxy. PDA recruits from outside, not from within. May 7, 2015 at 4:14 PM i wonder if crew shorewave nova and others share your hopes for protecting the galaxy roster. there are probably one or two from each of those teams that could easily outplay the bottom 4,5 on galaxy. galaxy has a dozen really nice players. After that, like every othe team, they have a drop off. if they want to become the best, they need to shuffle that second group elswhere to develop and bring in the best 1,2 kids from shore, crew
858. PDA will have there ECNL team at 2 years from now at U14 at that point they will roster 25+ for ECNL & NPL and carry the best 18-20 for games. That's when all these teams - Galaxy, Crew, Nova, Shore become satellite teams.Look at the overall picture that a girl has that opportunity no matter what squad they are on right now.
PDA's other teams allow for their top players (1-2 perhaps) eventually go onto their ECNL rosters and stay playing right now as starters against top teams currently. Doesn't make sense for these top players to go to Galaxy now to not get a starting position.
keep in mind, if your child is on a top NPL team, keep her there. If your goal and your child's goal is to play on a top D1 squad, their rosters are mixed from different top leagues.
going to go see the semifinals today. cant wait to see these cherry hill parents in action
Halftime. No score in either game. Njx getting the better of ch in first half, but ch made some late pushes. PDA taking it to rage pretty good. Rage has threatened on counter a few times. Rage goalie making some great saves.
Are the Cherry Hill parents behaving?
Great game. NJX scored with maybe 5 minutes left to win 1-0
Rage took it to PDA galaxy winning 2-0.. Goalie and defense strong.
Nice try rage parents. It was 2-1 rage over PDA. 2 penalty kicks and a lucky goal with a few minutes left.
Gonna be a long ride home for PDA parents. PDA in all the other age groups are sailing through to the finals. This age group seems to struggle against athletic teams. Congrats on the win rage
9:15. You're some kind of jerk.
WOW Galaxy lost to rage?
Should be a great game tomorrow... NJX takes it!!
10:32, Why would a RAGE parent report the wrong score to a match they just watched? In an overly complicated attempt to veil themselves? All the quarter finalists shared the same sideline. But u know that.
@10:35....they might be struggling a bit now ( one loss all season struggling) but let's see who's who in 2 years. These wonderfully "athletic" girls will have hit their ceiling and will be nowhere to be found. Sorry people. Technical soccer is the way it's heading. Enjoy the wins while you can.
Can't believe rage won. I had galaxy going all the way in my office pool. Another $20 wasted.
It's so funny that people assume that PDA is the only club that can teach technical skills. The Rage girls look athletic and just as technical as the PDA girls. I'm guessing that in 2 years they will continue to be exactly where they were today, right on top. Excellent soccer played by all today.
I came to watch the Galaxy play as they play my daughter soon.. their defense was not very strong other than a fast smaller girl. The Galaxy was not playing their better players. A tall fast girl on the Galaxy barely played as well as a tall physical center forward.. Renegades kept the best players on full game . Galaxy had better possession, and played better soccer, but the Rage took the win!Holmdel over ch???!
You need both - athletics and technical. Based upon what I saw, Rage was both today.Saw some great athletes with some good skills on the other field too. But perhaps not as many passes strung together. Fields were right next to each other so it was easy to catch them both. Fun morning of competitive games... Saw the U-13 games too. PDA lost both of those games too... (2 PDA teams in Semis at that age bracket )Galaxy fought hard and played well but don't buy into the hype that they are the only PDA team going home.
You don't need both just need smart players, I would take 10 smart field players with technical abilities and passing over athletes any day.
PDA = Parents Driving home Angry
Lots of good soccer at u12. 3 or 4 in the South & 3 or 4 in the North. Says a lot about the level of training available to all these great kids. Good on them and all of their efforts.
I don't know about all you haters on this blog but I saw two games byt very talented teams very athletic girls play clean and hard with great refereeing and class parents in both victory and defeat.
Clean and hard, as mentioned in prior post 2 penalty kicks, um that doesn't sound like a clean game to me. Bottom line a direct game style beat PDA showing that a talented team like that can be outgunned just by pure hussle.It's state cup anything can happen, Cherry Hill even made it to the Semi's with the toughest bracket of all 4 teams today. Congrats to all the teams and good luck to both both teams in the final.It's a shame most of these teams next year seperate in two different league and probably will never see other unless bracketed in a tournament together.
Just because there were two Pks doesn't mean it wasn't a clean game. Just happened to be a foul in the area. Went both ways so it didn't affect the outcome. Both keepers even guessed the right direction but the shots were quality so they scored. I think one of the PDA or rage girls got a yellow card for a late challenge in the defense of third again not a dirty play no intent to injure but the Yellowcard was certainly warranted
8:29 correct. it was a clean game, a great game. i thought there was some tremendous soccer played by both teams, and the kids should hopefully come away motivated and excited to be even better in the year ahead. There are obviously going to be tears and disappointment when you lose a state cup semifinal, but what fricking difference does any of it mean? noone next year will remember who won or lost, and noone outside that field really cares. if the kids gave all they could, put their hearts and bodies on the line, then both teams were successful , just one gets to play another game tomorrow.great job to both teams. I saw the game, I thought it was a very nice picture of U12 soccer though I agree, different styles of play which was cool to watch. And kudos to the Rage keeper. she was incredible.
Totally true. I saw the game and the rage keeper was outstanding. Simply outstanding. Almost made me wish she had to stop more shots just to see her play!
athletic is where it is. njx is winning from their most athletic girl scoring on pk's. not taking anything away from njx but watched their cup games and expected to see more then wining on pk kicks.
Three PDA teams knocked out at U15 also. Looks like their monopoly on players is long gone.
@10:51 lmao, your ignorant. There was no pk today.
Congrats to Rage! Goalie was spectacular-however agree with 2:58pm. Why bench galaxy's best big, physical players that can get job done?
10:51. Sorry, but no PKs in the NJX game. They manufactured a quality goal. The scorer tucked in a simple finish from a great setup.
Any score at halftime?
Game ended tied 1-1, went into double overtime and we scored 3 in overtime.. Final score 4-1 ..
Who? Joe T
HaHa great job Rage! Way to represent the South. Galaxy and NJX/MatchFit were just shown how a strong team will overshadow all your ECNL Hype.
People...no need to buy into ECNL hype. If your daughter plays on a top level team in NJ, then stick with it. You may regret it later on if you don't. Remember, your child's top level team can go showcase anywhere in the US against teams that you think they should play against. If you want your child to have a bit higher training/competition, train an extra day a week on the side and put your talent in action on a team that all girls are doing the same thing, and play hard together. ;-) (and, find a team where you can stand most of the parents! There are good OVERALL teams out there) Look around.
Whats wrong with you 5:21? Win with some grace! The girls on NJX/Matchfit and Galaxy did not come out this weekend for ECNL hype but rather played for the simple love of the game. Stop making it about anything more than it is. Congratulations to your daughter and Rage for a great tournament win!
I bet these poor girls on all these soccer teams don't even know all these acronyms. Goodness. Neither do the parents I bet. Let them play soccer against other good teams. Period.NJ Rush/Rage, good job. NJ Rush overall in NJ will really be something to follow. Good job to the people behind the organization of the great Central/South NJ Academy soccer options.
Player Development Academy. What development?
people, lets be respecful. The soccer powers that be watch everything, they watch the games, they watch training and they watch these blogs. They bring good things that warrant greatness, and they can rain hell down on those who run afoul of the beauty of this beautiful game.talk nicely would be my suggestion. Congrats to Rage on a great game against a great squad today. And congrats to PDA on losing with grace, no excuses just great soccer, slightly outpaced by another great team.
Most of these posts are from disgruntled parents that have been cut or did not make any of these wonderful teams.
agree with above two posts. Rage and Galaxy are two of the many great teams in NJ. Different strokes for different folks. Both teams I'm sure played great and my child doesn't play for either of these two teams.
PDA all I got to say is--- hahahaha Keep up the Kooooolllllaide Drinking- going to be a hot spring and summer.
Do folks realize best player on Rage and SJEB going to PAE ECNL clubs???
Here we go @857 pot stirring again!
If rage loses that forward and golie, they are a very average team. I'm sure Pda has way mor e depth, but no real game changers. They also look weak when subs come in. I'm Sure there are alot of spots available to join Galaxy if and when anyone wants. Rage has some other strong players and if merged with rush, should be a strong team going forward.
So it's not true? If they both went to same club, someone would win big. Both very strong forwards, best in state.
very good.............not best
9:35.. Actually the Galaxy has one of their best players as substitutions(The really fast one). Take some starters and that good sub and you have the best on the Galaxy. I think their substitutions are solid and make a difference when played. Maybe Galaxy coach puts them in after to make the difference when other teams are already worn out.5:21.. Njx and Galaxy came to play soccer, not to represent the ECNL. As time comes, a lose is what will make your team stronger. 10:49.. Completely agree. The Rage goalkeeper saved her team. She was excellent, and any team would be lucky to have Her. She should be proud of her performance against PDA and Holmdel.....Cherry Hill and Holmdel was an excellent matchup, as were Galaxy and Rage but next year if these teams are to play semifinals again, I would like to see Galaxy and Holmdel play for semis and Renegades and CH.Finals there would be PDA and RAGE and that would be a stunning final. Question for you all: Holmdel and Galaxy play on Friday. Who takes home a win?
What position does the real fast one sub for? I would assume a forward and that's what Galaxy looks to be be missing. I could not tell you who their center forward is, always changing.Galaxy won't ever play state cup again, it is above them like their older teams. I don't understand, but PDA does what they want. I'm sure the girls and parents would love to still play in state and have fun with good compitition.
Why would it be "Above Them" are you saying next fall and spring state cups wont have Galaxy or any PDA teams?
947, they are the best in the state, I have have seen them all. I wish they would join our team, but will never get them.
There are very few stand out players at our age right now. Will admit rage has two. I'm sure Galaxy has their two or three, I have a tough time picking them out. I haven't seen anyone else that really stands out to me over past two years of seeing everyone play. I do think this age group has a ton of very good talent and probably the strongest age group to come from nj in a while, just all very spread out. And this is a good thing.
Some of the very best U12 players in NJ are not likely found on U12 teams - playing up with older players at this age.
At these younger ages, a talented player can dominate playing up 1 year and can be very comfortable playing up 2 years.
12:29 the 2 standouts it seems were recruited by the DOC who supposedly uses his position at the US training center to do so .
Don't know of any players playing up that would dominate this age group. I know there are many girls in this age group that could easily play u13 right now, that age group is very weak in NJ. Are we talking about an August or September baby who is u12 age appropriate, but playing grade appropriate(7th grade)? So they have a lucky birthday and maybe a month younger than others, big deal. Is that really playing up? What happens when they change to calendar year soon?
The doc of what club?Thanks
SJEB Player that went to PF did so simply because they are the closest ECNL club
Bad ECNL < Very good NPL team with a strong history..... a lesson some will learn in the near future.
@109 - what girls are playing up that would dominate this age group? Thanks
I thought PDA South is the closest ECNL Club affiliate for South players?
FC Bucks is also picking up some quality players as well.
Pda south is not ecnl and a lot of the parents/girls in the south don't want to go there for others reasons...
@1:09Why are girls playing up. What is the benefit?
225 and what reasons are they? PDA South can pull girls into Pre-ECNL/ECNL when they feel a player is that caliber. Read the rules people a player can cross play within there own club.Doesn't make sense for people to drive 1+ hour while opportunities are around a corner.
From what I see ,girls playing up has more to do with the ego of the parents then it does thetalent of the player.
What does a club do with a player stronger than the players on the team in her age group at the club. Even a competitive club could lose a player if they don't find a way to challenge her.
Playing up is a no brainer if they deserve it. They must compete very well, be a starter and add significant value to the team. They will benefit from being challenged more in games and training with stronger players. If not, not worth it, play age appropriate. If you are on a top team at u14 and older, the younger players will add to their visibility when being scouted by natl teams and colleges, if they are great players. This is very few and far between and who knows what happens as they mature. At 109, who is the player/players or what teams do they play for?
Foe example, would the superstar Rage players benefit by playing up with older, faster players?
In the better clubs. Players do not play up at this age. If the player is that exceptional they will play age appropriate at this age and going forward. The lower clubs allow players to play up because they are not able to fill rosters.
The biggest reason for so much turnover on South Jersey teams is the "atmosphere" on the sidelines.
Incorrect. Know of at least one top club where best player plays up a full year and another top player is technically playing up - fall birthday.
357 Totally Agree. North parents know there place.
Disagree PF has players playing up if they are capable and they are one of the top clubs.
Are ECNL clubs top clubs? They list the birthdays of the all players. Not too difficult to find some playing up.
PDA is one the Top Club's in the Country. You can gauge it from here by age group. http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer/club-soccer-team-rankings/women/
Playing up should be the club's decision, not the parents.
4:24pm. Wildly inaccurate website link. Top-drawer only ranks ECNL clubs when there are definitely clubs (NEFC for example) who are far superior but aren't ECNL. ECNL is a tough beast to get into because of all the politics associated with trying to be a member club. In NJ PDA holds the monopoly and are on the board of decision makers, so it's very difficult for another club to join. Shame as some are definitely worthy of a look based on the success of their girls teams.
What if the club wants to keep a top talent on age to win games?
If the parent is demanding the player play up, that parent is going to be an overly involved parent and a good club wouldn't want the player or the parent.
How does it benefit a player to be the strongest player on the team? It is always argued that talented players this or that top club to develop with other strong players. Then the club wants to keep the strongest player on age with weaker players.
Correction:How does it benefit a player to be the strongest player on the team? It is always argued that talented players must go to this or that top club to develop with other strong players. Then the club wants to keep the strongest player on age with weaker players. Do you need to be challenged by playiing with stronger players or not?
I'm sorry but at this age with most high level club's in ECNL or NPL having paid coaches. I think the Coach knows if a girl is no capable of playing at a certain levels either NPL, ECNL, playing up, playing down, just being cut completely.They determine that, parents have no say anymore come u13.
Sometimes parents demand or threaten that their child play up . The club gives in if the player is talented because they don't want to lose them to a rival club.
Does the player need to be surrounded by stronger players to develop best or not? If so, should the effort be made to find a place where that is possible? Is it smart to remain leader of the pack or is it better to join a pack where others are the leaders?
The best interests of the player, club coach and team may not always be aligned. Do the best you can and prepare for disappointment if you seek a perfect solution.
Rage has the most talented players or they wouldn't have won the state cup for the past 4 times..they have some very good strong players on that team...their goalie just came on board not long ago and they still won state cups without her. Give credit where credit is due. Rage didnt need a good goalie to win anything..they play as a team and a strong team at that. We all want our girls to be strong talented players and be good role models and Rage has accomplished that so far.
Very quiet blog leading up to state cup weekend makes me think the majority party on this blog are from those teams or parents that have kids that can't cut it on those teams.
@8:15. Wow, what an insightful observation. You're a regular Columbo.
836. The blog didn't explode after the PDA tourney so dude has a point.
Okay, can't belive I'm backing up Pda, but really? when have they ever talked on this blog? Every other top team has except Pda, I have kids in other age groups and can't stand them because they do talk on the blogs, this age group never has.
917, what team are you from big talker?Are you that perfect, please tell us more.Ha, ha - now you are gone and have no response.
Let me see it wasn't to long ago that PDA South was on here and one specific person with very insightful and meaningful comments, wish we had more of him. So you can't say PDA has never comes on here. So there is my response.
"What team are you from? At least joe from Pda south has the balls to sign his name and team, unlike you hiding and putting other kids down. "It would help if you notated who you are addressing. This isn't that difficult folks, use a little common sense. Then again, I've seen some of you dopes on the sidelines, I shouldnt be at all surprised.SignedNOT a PDA Parent
What ever team he is from, they have lost just like every other team in the state. Great competition at this age group and no parent or kids should be concerned. Losing is just as important as winning in life and sports. Good luck to everyone but the basher from above. Bottom line is that Pda N is far down in GS rankings, so no need to pound chest with win against them, just another average team in the state.
Are all early offers out? Sdfc? Copa? Maximus?
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