An academy is just a school. If you teach people to play soccer go ahead and call yourself an academy if you want to.
Comment from above must be from a low level club that maybe through Academy at the end of their name.So everyone is an Academy if they are teaching soccer in your eyes. Wow
The point was, the term is somewhat meaningless. Resesarch the program you put your kid in whatever they call themselves.
USSDA is subsidized. ECNL is not. Men's professional soccer generated revenue. Women's professional soccer (for the most part) does not. U.S. Men's soccer has to compete against other countries where soccer is #1 and thus have the USDDA. U.S. Women's soccer is already at the top as international development of women is completely different than the men. If a girl plays phenom soccer but the parents can't pay, I bet some of the higher level clubs would work around their fees to get the girl in.
Sounds like a bitter parent that didn't have the $$ to get their kid on an ECNL team - PDA, Matchfit, World Class. It's ok. Have fun at TSF
Only bitter I don't get to hang out with over bearing bullies like you on the sideline.
ECNL only means so much. If we are all eventually talking about College Scholarships then i can tell you that the kid who gets recruited will be one who plays on a good team (top 10 in the State is fine) and puts the effort themselves into getting recruited. If you think simply playing on an ECNL team will get you a scholarship then you are sadly mistaken!!College Coaches don't just go and watch an ECNL team if no player on that team has contacted them, why would they waste their team looking at a team where they have no idea if the player wants to go to their College?You may ask "how do you know this?". Or say i'm wrong. But i have heard it straight from the horses mouth several times.Our club holds College lectures 2-3 times a year and our older daughter is in that process. The club has several college coaches who coach the teams within the club and they get college coaches coming in to speak to the parents to go over the process. All state the same thing, is it a massive rarity that they will watch a game where they don't know anyone. It's a waste of their time.End of the day everyone here is arguing about ECNL being the best and only way, and everything else is almost worthless, its not.As long as your daughter is on a competitive team when they are U15 and above and are willing to put a lot of effort into contacting colleges then they will do just fine. If you're one of those naive ECNL parents (seems like a lot of them on here) and you think simply showing up and playing will guarantee you some form of scholarship then you are in for a harsh surprise in a few years time.Up til then let's let the girls enjoy playing and being competitive in their games. They are 12 years old for Petes sake.P.S-below is the Boys summary of what an academy is, unless a girls club does this then i don't see how they can be labelled a true academy. I'll give you a hint, none do this.Development AcademyOVERVIEWFollowing a comprehensive review of elite player development in the United States and around the world, U.S. Soccer created the Development Academy in 2007 to improve the everyday environment for the elite youth player.The Development Academy is a partnership between U.S. Soccer and the top youth clubs around the country to provide the best youth players in the U.S. with an every day environment designed to produce the next generation of National Team players. The Academy’s programming philosophy is based on increased training, less total games and more competitive games.The Academy also connects National Team coaches directly with the Academy clubs to develop and identify players and coaches for future Youth National Teams. Each Academy team is evaluated by a member of the Men’s Scouting Network at least 10 times each year and each Academy club receives two formal evaluations in over 100 categories each year from U.S. Soccer Technical Staff.The Development Academy is also focused on identifying and developing the next generation of elite referees. U.S. Soccer assigns up-and-coming officials to participate in Academy games at the local level and at national events.
8:20am. So what makes an Academy an Academy in your eyes? ECNL is just a league. Same as NY NPL and EDP
Do you like talking to yourself with your own questions and answers? We hear you...one problem - Nobody is listening
So now EDP is the same as ECNL...This gets more comical by the min. Let me guess - if a ECNL team offered your daughter a free ride, you would take it
Just another League.....laughableThe Elite Clubs National League was created in 2009 with the mission to enhance the developmental experience of the best female youth soccer players in the United States, and by doing so improve and raise the level of female soccer at all levels. In only 5 years, the ECNL has quickly grown to become the top youth female league in the world.While the impact of the ECNL is primarily felt at youth levels, the ECNL has had a significant and growing impact on every level of the sport. ECNL players cover US Soccer youth national team rosters, and even more ECNL alums are now dominating the Division I college soccer landscape.The ECNL mission condensed into three words is “Elevate the Game.” Since 2009, it has provided the opportunity for more players to reach their dreams on and off-the field. On-the field, the “ECNL player” has become the epitome of the next generation of collegiate soccer players. The ECNL is introducing "ECNL College Impact." The ECNL College Impact can be measured by the number of ECNL alums that have moved on to collegiate soccer, and the increase in this number every year since the league’s inception. The ECNL College Impact highlights the ECNL’s effect on collegiate athletic conferences all over the United States – and begins with the Big 12 Conference.The Big 12 Conference stretches from Texas to Iowa, and east to West Virginia. The Big 12 includes Baylor University, Iowa State, Kansas University, Kansas State University, Oklahoma University, Oklahoma State University, Texas Christian University, the University of Texas, Texas Tech University, and West Virginia University. 1The ECNL College Impact for the Big 12 includes the past 5 freshman classes – the freshman who began their college careers in the 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 collegiate athletic seasons. In only 5 years of the ECNL:149 ECNL alumni are currently playing in the Big 12 Conference.Nearly 60% of the players in the Big 12 Conference are ECNL alums.The number of ECNL alums in the Big 12 freshman class has grown every year - to 51 players in 2014’s class.The percentage of ECNL players in the Big 12 freshman class consistently grew from 46% of the class in 2011, to 65% of the freshman class in 2014.7 Players on the 2013 Big 12 All-Newcomer Team are ECNL alumni.9 Players on the 2013 Big 12 First Team and Second Team are ECNL alumni.The ECNL is providing the most consistent platform to Big 12 college soccer – and the impact of the ECNL in the Big 12 is growing every year. The ECNL is more than four letters. It is a representation of the best platform and program for female soccer in the United States. Beyond that, the ECNL is representative of the vision and goals of the best clubs, teams, and players in the country. The ECNL is the aspirational focus for elite female athletes.
This discussion is more interesting than bashing this team or that team.
ECNL, EDP, NY NPL are all leagues that accept a full club to participate at every age group. You have to fulfill certain criteria to be accepted. The only thing i can see different between ECNL and EDP/NY NPL is that in order to be an ECNL team you need to have your own facility and preferably some National Level players within the club and a past history of being competitive at the highest level of tournaments in the country. Outside of that can anyone really tell me the difference between a ECNL Club and NPL Club?I'm not being sarcastic here, a lot of people are laughing that ECNL and NPL are massively different but can anyone tell me how as i can't figure out a huge difference. All i'm getting is people (presumably future ECNL parents) posting condescending messages saying the conversation is laughable but not actually telling us why!If my kid got offered a free ride on PDA/MF ECNL then of course i'd take it. But saying that if they got offered a free ride on an NPL team i'd take that as well! Saving $2.5k + a year is a lot of money.
The ECNL strives for excellence and that is very costly. But obviously the expensive (albeit first rate) training and competition is exclusionary by income. Why can't there be a civil discussion about how to serve the considerable talent for whom the ECNL is not a financial option.
....because some people have to "bash" ECNL because they can't afford it.
10:21am that was a very immature comment "they can't afford it". So your saying only the parents with the annual income above the norm with talented girls are playing for ECNL. What about te other half of the girls just as talented that do not see this exposure. Someone or some organization will step in and change the dynamic in a couple of years. They did it for boys and will do it for girls. To many girls go to MLS games as well as support.Remember when ODP was the way to go and they offered and still do a payment assistance for the unfortunate. I think 90% of the country is chasing the wrong dream if your comment proves right that only parents that can afford ECNL are playing.
Interested to hear about strategies families use to develop their players without breaking the bank.My club allows my daughter to attend an additional practice each week with older age group and play up in about 2-3 games per season with this group at no extra charge. She loves this and behaves well and works hard to maintain this privilege. Can we hear what other families have come up with?
My question is if your daughter is not on an ecnl club but does tip and odp/us club will they still be seen as much?TIP I know is free along with the us club.ODP is not.Will your kid still been seen if selected to these free events and you not have to break the bank.Just wondering what everyones thought are.
don't get your panties in a bunch. The can't afford it comment was meant for the person crying about the cost and how they couldn't. Differnt strokes for different folks
@11:14am - You are correct I like seeing conversations like this about families strategies and believe that they are ultimately helping their daughter develop one way or the other. I like that there are options out there, of course some options are more costly and see more exposure but by the time they hit U15 if she has in her heart and still wants it; a good developed/talented player will get notice no matter what direction they take at U12. This is way better than talking about rankings, Gotsoccer, or bashing teams. Very good conversation everyone.
Is it possible that people don't see the value in driving hours a day to get to an ECNL club, or just can't swing it with jobs/family/other responsibilies, and that an NPL club will be enough? Not everyone lives near PDA, MF or WC.
more crying...stop it. You're embarrassing yourself
@12:06pm - Yes if you have 1 child that is talented that can breach a starting Top 12 of a ECNL team then the value is great and you should not mind the drive and the cost. Even if you have 2 children and 1 of them can make it on ECNL it's worth it.But every family is different some may have 3 kids playing at high level and simply cannot afford it of have ressponsibilities to the their other children. So there are other paths that can be chosen.
Ignoring the poster apparently home from school for the day, teams may need a guest player for certain tounys or games. My kid has done this here and there.
Best way for your kid to be seen is getting on a decent club where they do legit tournaments, showcases, - MAPS, EDP, etc.Also many online marketing tools out there when the time comes
Yes, having your kid be a guest is the best path to success!!
Go back to watching Disney Channel with your box of tissues.
Can I borrow your tissues. Seems you left them next to your computer looking at all the quality talent at the ECNL level, so you had to come on here an cry how you can't afford it.
Oh snap...we have a winner. Back to the discussion.
Your kids are 11 and 12 years old please let them enjoy the sport.
Why do some clubs have TEAM 'NPL' & then TEAM 'EDP'? I don't understand because EDP's first division IS NPL.
I dislike the attacks on any person's socio-economic status. We know nothing about people or their situation. I hope some sense of decency can be restored. Let's talk soccer. Thank you.
Predictions for this weekends State Cup QFinal games?
NJX 3-1 over PDA Crew
8v8Maximus 4 Rage Revolution 1Rage Renegades 5 Watchung Hills 0Nj Crush 2 Copa Academy RIO 1Copa Academy Cali 1 Lawrence Hamnett 0
I'm waiting for someone to inevitably make fun of 8v8 SC anytime now.... reasons could be they don't have the $$ to pay 11v11 or that "academies" don't play 8v8 as it's not as good for their development as 11v11.Now that's done, agree with the 7:56am and 8:23am assessments. Can't see any upsets this weekend given the games.SJEB over Cherry HillNJX over PDA C teamNJ Rush over PDA B teamHaddonfield over JPS-who knows?!
What happened to PDA Galaxy?
Does anyone know, which League Maximus plays out of?
Galaxy chose not to do State Cup, my guess is they didn't want to risk not winning it... but that's only for the coach to know and us to guess!Maximus plays EDP 8v8
sjeb is out, sdfc over cherry hill
PDA Galaxy doesn't need to do NJ Youth Carded State Cup no point for them to waste there time to NJ Card players for a few state cup games. US Club state cup in spring will be more impressive and more likely everyone in this age group will be playing 11v11 state cup.Plus it eliminates many of the town travel teams that really cannot compete at a high level. I think also think the EDP Open Cup will eventually overwrite state fall and spring state cup's.
Question - So the NJ State Cup is in 2 leagues - NJYSA & US Club?DO they both have a Spring & Fall State Cup? Or does US CLub have it in Spring and NJYSA have it in the Fall?I assume the US Club is better and tougher to compete
1036 - Correct: NJYSA is Fall's NJ State Cup / US Club is Spring's NJ State Cup. Personally State Cup should be a 10month process Fall into Spring, with double elimination. What's the point of having 2 state cups for teams to GS points in(Fall/Spring)? The girls are carded for a team year round so there shouldn't be no drastic roster changes occuring mid season. NJ should adopt 1 annual State Cup with double elimination. Clubs can either be carded NJYSA or US CLub. It's ridiculous clubs are spending money carding players NJYSA in the Fall for 1 to 4 games. Thus the reason why PDA Galaxy is not in the Fall state cup.
Nonsense response 9:35am. PDA Galaxy doesn't "need" to do NJYS State Cup. How big headed can you get, you act like you'll automatically win it by entering it. It's been shown that this PDA group is beatable by many teams. Any given day as they say.NJYS State Cup has been around for years, US Club NJ Cup is fairly new. For this age it's NJYS in Fall and US Club in Spring. For 15s and above they run both in the Spring. Competition level varies year to year.
I agree that clubs do not want to deal with the extra work associated with carding through NJYS which remains an archaic process. The US Clubs carding process is so much simpler. I am sure that this affects which teams participate in fall State Cup, the turn out was certainly light this fall.
1134 - It wasn't meant that PDA Galaxy is big headed, it more relates to the process of carding players under NJYSA to compete for 1-2 competitive games.Rather just set up 3-4 scrimmages vs. other PDA or top squads. Save the parents travel time and the unknown factor of when is the next game and where.
Agree about people should stop talking about people's socio-economic status. It's uncalled for. Some people didn't and don't have the privileges as others growing up. And true about no one knows about people's current situations. Remember, it's about the children. US Club/USYS (NJYS), just different soccer bodies all aiming at soccer development. Any club/team can do both cups--one is not 'stronger' than the other. One does it in the Spring other in the Fall. Competition level just all depends on the teams deciding to participate in either cup. As for Galaxy, remember they are going to be ECNL. They are not even allowed to participate eventually in the state cups. No ECNL teams are allowed...and that goes for all ECNL teams in every state. Look at the state cup now, it's kind of watered down. Just a few decently good teams which will slowly start to water down as well probably.
That's really funny. If I recall PDA Galaxy only lost 1-0 to NJX Sol in state cup last year and it was a goalie mistake.
I'm sure Galaxy played better soccer. Can't always pay attention to the score. Anyway, in two years, a lot can change. I'm sure other top quality players will be swarming to Galaxy. And the current players just getting stronger with PDA's training curriculum within their club.
So nix is the state cup winner ? And what are you referring to anyway, I see no mention of galaxy and nix being mentioned. Nix needs to just stay away from board, always bringing bad attention to themselves. Maybe I'm wrong and missed something here, but I never recall nix winning state cup. Maybe they won Jeff cup, delco, PDA, and stars cup and I missed that too?
Who is nix? And why does he need to do anything?
Sdfc would have posted from the parking lot if they won - but they lost. I'm shocked - I thought they were the best team in state by long shot. Looks like nix or njx barely got by PDA.
But they won. Congrats NJX!
NJX and SDFC are both over the top with their bosting and posting. To much talk usually backfires...As seen today by SDFC. Why did NJX make a false claim about beating PDA in spring state cup? Pretty sure the galaxy team from pda won the 11v11 bracket.
I don't see SDFC or NJX "bosting" at all. And I doubt NJX would make a false claim. Maybe you simpletons can finely realize that trolls make claims to be from a team and say dumb things in an attempt to make those teams look bad. The inaccuracy of their posts should illustrate that. I really wish they would either make this blog require registration or an IQ test.
Well any simpleton can google NJ Cup 2014 and see Galaxy beat NJX Sol 1-0 in the final. Galaxy indeed won the game. As for today NJX beat PDA Crew and not Galaxy.
If you go back to a post it was stated that Galaxy thinks it's a waste of time to be in State Cup. That's why it was posted about the NJX/Galaxy game.. They are not blowing anyone away!
So someone pretends to speak for Galaxy that State Cup is a waste, so the lemmings attack Galaxy for claiming this. Then "SDFC and nix (?) are ripped for "bosting". The Real Dummies of New Jersey Soccer saga continues.
You are blind...sdfc has been all over this blog last three weeks.
Max are rolling!
This blog is just so entertaining. Anything can be said by anyone and not really knowing where their from. I bet you there are no Galaxy parents on this blog and all this talk is being said about their team. I don't think certain coaches allow it.
That's why it's called a blog
A sincere congratulations goes out to Haddonfield, NJ Rush/Hamilton, Holmdel FC NJX, and Cherry Hill. The good news is, your girls will experience an exciting soccer memory that will last a life time. The bad news, your team, your parents, possibly your coaches and club as a whole will be criticized and mocked ad nauseum for the next 2 weeks (or longer) on this wonderful blog by its upstanding "adult" contributors.
What about the 8v8 teams, do they count?Yes they had an easy Cherry hill and Hamilton in finalsRage and Maximus in finalsSdfc is out in case anyone didn't notice
"Yes they had an easy Cherry hill and Hamilton in finals"Translation?
Good luck to all the teams in the Semis!
I can see NJX, RUSH, and CH being in the Semi's but people let's get real Haddonfield had a great draw to get there. Hopefully NJ get's it right going forward and has the Top rankings teams playing bottom ranking teams in the 1st round and so on. NCAA Basketball Bracker style!Yes congrats to all the NJ Semi-final teams.
Why is it that the NJYS state cup didn't have all it's top teams? Do you think some clubs are trying to get away from NJYS and just focus their first teams with training and US Club soccer's top leagues?
Predictions for semi finals this weekend?
2:35am. Name me 1 other top team besides PDA who didn't enter NJYS State Cup? They were the only one who didn't enter from what i saw
They didn't enter but, heard they used some girls from their A team to play in he quarter finals.
Didn't help based on the results
Did anyone warn Sol yet their players should wear Kevlar body armor this weekend?
9:03am I do not think PDA Galaxy and Nova went out of there way to NJYS Card girls on from there teams to play on PDA Crew and PDA Shore. Stop feeding wrong information. Remember teams had to lock rosters up for State Cup in the beginning. Cannot add players throughout the games.
Maximus vs Rage Renegades will be a nice Final Sunday. I know most say Rage Ren r the best or 2nd best in state.
Not hard to be top 2 in state with so few clubs playing 8v8. Heck all 8v8 clubs can claim their U12 team is Top 10 because they are!
So you're saying if Maximus or Renegades played 11v11 right now they wouldn't be a top 10 team in state? Just wanna make sure I got this right
9:03 you need to check your info because there were girls there from the A team. One was the goalie. No biggie just saying.
Not only does sol need armor they also need ear plugs so they don't here Cherry Hills parents with there foul mouths.
don't know who's saying rage renegades are best or 2nd best in state who have they played in the last 2 years?????? just wait till they go 11V11, they'll be mediocre at best
I didnt post anything about 8 x 8, but I think its impossible to figure where any of the 8 x 8 would rank. How can one argue one way or the other?
Oh stop the madness, GS or any type of rankings does not justify any team in this age level. Any team can be beaten at the top levels and as for those top 8v8 teams we will not know how well off they are until they go 11v11, so you cannot compare them yet. If you really want to talk and have conversations 8v8 and 11v11 teams should be spoken off differently.
I think all of the few top teams that Jersey has need to really expand who they're playing. How is it benefitting them playing weaker teams? They should probably keep league games to a minimum and just pick and choose who they play, even if they need to play up along with just sticking to the more training/less games method.
9;03 so was their forward
Too NJX SolYouse guys iz gonna loose da game!SignedCherry Hill Publick Relashins Departament
We all know which parent from Cherry Hill just wrote that comment!!!
1:54 you need to check your information. Yes there were girls there from Galaxy, but to watch, not play. The goalie is carded for both teams.
Is it common for the ECNL clubs to card girls for more than 1 team? I have no idea. Is the goalie the only girl Crew carded for State Cup?
Any club can put players on more than one team roster as long as they are carded with that club. Edp and the cup allow it. And the rosters for cup are locked once the championship draw is announced. http://www.njyouthsoccer.com/clubsite/?p=4807
IGFA has players rostered on more than one roster.
At least PDA uses appropriately carded players. Can't say that about other clubs in the area.
What club doesn't use appropriate carded players?
If you ask me the rules on the NJYS site are a little vague about being able to move players between teams on the same club - though I do agree that it says that roster are frozen at the time of the championship draw.But lets be frank, if any players from PDA A played, then thats not the 'Crew'. Its just PDA trying to make all its teams look as strong as they can...
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