....because some people have to "bash" ECNL because they can't afford it.
10:21am that was a very immature comment "they can't afford it". So your saying only the parents with the annual income above the norm with talented girls are playing for ECNL. What about te other half of the girls just as talented that do not see this exposure. Someone or some organization will step in and change the dynamic in a couple of years. They did it for boys and will do it for girls. To many girls go to MLS games as well as support.Remember when ODP was the way to go and they offered and still do a payment assistance for the unfortunate. I think 90% of the country is chasing the wrong dream if your comment proves right that only parents that can afford ECNL are playing.
Interested to hear about strategies families use to develop their players without breaking the bank.My club allows my daughter to attend an additional practice each week with older age group and play up in about 2-3 games per season with this group at no extra charge. She loves this and behaves well and works hard to maintain this privilege. Can we hear what other families have come up with?
My question is if your daughter is not on an ecnl club but does tip and odp/us club will they still be seen as much?TIP I know is free along with the us club.ODP is not.Will your kid still been seen if selected to these free events and you not have to break the bank.Just wondering what everyones thought are.
don't get your panties in a bunch. The can't afford it comment was meant for the person crying about the cost and how they couldn't. Differnt strokes for different folks
@11:14am - You are correct I like seeing conversations like this about families strategies and believe that they are ultimately helping their daughter develop one way or the other. I like that there are options out there, of course some options are more costly and see more exposure but by the time they hit U15 if she has in her heart and still wants it; a good developed/talented player will get notice no matter what direction they take at U12. This is way better than talking about rankings, Gotsoccer, or bashing teams. Very good conversation everyone.
Is it possible that people don't see the value in driving hours a day to get to an ECNL club, or just can't swing it with jobs/family/other responsibilies, and that an NPL club will be enough? Not everyone lives near PDA, MF or WC.
more crying...stop it. You're embarrassing yourself
@12:06pm - Yes if you have 1 child that is talented that can breach a starting Top 12 of a ECNL team then the value is great and you should not mind the drive and the cost. Even if you have 2 children and 1 of them can make it on ECNL it's worth it.But every family is different some may have 3 kids playing at high level and simply cannot afford it of have ressponsibilities to the their other children. So there are other paths that can be chosen.
Ignoring the poster apparently home from school for the day, teams may need a guest player for certain tounys or games. My kid has done this here and there.
Best way for your kid to be seen is getting on a decent club where they do legit tournaments, showcases, - MAPS, EDP, etc.Also many online marketing tools out there when the time comes
Yes, having your kid be a guest is the best path to success!!
Go back to watching Disney Channel with your box of tissues.
Can I borrow your tissues. Seems you left them next to your computer looking at all the quality talent at the ECNL level, so you had to come on here an cry how you can't afford it.
Oh snap...we have a winner. Back to the discussion.
Your kids are 11 and 12 years old please let them enjoy the sport.
Why do some clubs have TEAM 'NPL' & then TEAM 'EDP'? I don't understand because EDP's first division IS NPL.
I dislike the attacks on any person's socio-economic status. We know nothing about people or their situation. I hope some sense of decency can be restored. Let's talk soccer. Thank you.
Predictions for this weekends State Cup QFinal games?
NJX 3-1 over PDA Crew
8v8Maximus 4 Rage Revolution 1Rage Renegades 5 Watchung Hills 0Nj Crush 2 Copa Academy RIO 1Copa Academy Cali 1 Lawrence Hamnett 0
I'm waiting for someone to inevitably make fun of 8v8 SC anytime now.... reasons could be they don't have the $$ to pay 11v11 or that "academies" don't play 8v8 as it's not as good for their development as 11v11.Now that's done, agree with the 7:56am and 8:23am assessments. Can't see any upsets this weekend given the games.SJEB over Cherry HillNJX over PDA C teamNJ Rush over PDA B teamHaddonfield over JPS-who knows?!
What happened to PDA Galaxy?
Does anyone know, which League Maximus plays out of?
Galaxy chose not to do State Cup, my guess is they didn't want to risk not winning it... but that's only for the coach to know and us to guess!Maximus plays EDP 8v8
sjeb is out, sdfc over cherry hill
PDA Galaxy doesn't need to do NJ Youth Carded State Cup no point for them to waste there time to NJ Card players for a few state cup games. US Club state cup in spring will be more impressive and more likely everyone in this age group will be playing 11v11 state cup.Plus it eliminates many of the town travel teams that really cannot compete at a high level. I think also think the EDP Open Cup will eventually overwrite state fall and spring state cup's.
Question - So the NJ State Cup is in 2 leagues - NJYSA & US Club?DO they both have a Spring & Fall State Cup? Or does US CLub have it in Spring and NJYSA have it in the Fall?I assume the US Club is better and tougher to compete
1036 - Correct: NJYSA is Fall's NJ State Cup / US Club is Spring's NJ State Cup. Personally State Cup should be a 10month process Fall into Spring, with double elimination. What's the point of having 2 state cups for teams to GS points in(Fall/Spring)? The girls are carded for a team year round so there shouldn't be no drastic roster changes occuring mid season. NJ should adopt 1 annual State Cup with double elimination. Clubs can either be carded NJYSA or US CLub. It's ridiculous clubs are spending money carding players NJYSA in the Fall for 1 to 4 games. Thus the reason why PDA Galaxy is not in the Fall state cup.
Nonsense response 9:35am. PDA Galaxy doesn't "need" to do NJYS State Cup. How big headed can you get, you act like you'll automatically win it by entering it. It's been shown that this PDA group is beatable by many teams. Any given day as they say.NJYS State Cup has been around for years, US Club NJ Cup is fairly new. For this age it's NJYS in Fall and US Club in Spring. For 15s and above they run both in the Spring. Competition level varies year to year.
I agree that clubs do not want to deal with the extra work associated with carding through NJYS which remains an archaic process. The US Clubs carding process is so much simpler. I am sure that this affects which teams participate in fall State Cup, the turn out was certainly light this fall.
1134 - It wasn't meant that PDA Galaxy is big headed, it more relates to the process of carding players under NJYSA to compete for 1-2 competitive games.Rather just set up 3-4 scrimmages vs. other PDA or top squads. Save the parents travel time and the unknown factor of when is the next game and where.
Agree about people should stop talking about people's socio-economic status. It's uncalled for. Some people didn't and don't have the privileges as others growing up. And true about no one knows about people's current situations. Remember, it's about the children. US Club/USYS (NJYS), just different soccer bodies all aiming at soccer development. Any club/team can do both cups--one is not 'stronger' than the other. One does it in the Spring other in the Fall. Competition level just all depends on the teams deciding to participate in either cup. As for Galaxy, remember they are going to be ECNL. They are not even allowed to participate eventually in the state cups. No ECNL teams are allowed...and that goes for all ECNL teams in every state. Look at the state cup now, it's kind of watered down. Just a few decently good teams which will slowly start to water down as well probably.
That's really funny. If I recall PDA Galaxy only lost 1-0 to NJX Sol in state cup last year and it was a goalie mistake.
I'm sure Galaxy played better soccer. Can't always pay attention to the score. Anyway, in two years, a lot can change. I'm sure other top quality players will be swarming to Galaxy. And the current players just getting stronger with PDA's training curriculum within their club.
So nix is the state cup winner ? And what are you referring to anyway, I see no mention of galaxy and nix being mentioned. Nix needs to just stay away from board, always bringing bad attention to themselves. Maybe I'm wrong and missed something here, but I never recall nix winning state cup. Maybe they won Jeff cup, delco, PDA, and stars cup and I missed that too?
Who is nix? And why does he need to do anything?
Sdfc would have posted from the parking lot if they won - but they lost. I'm shocked - I thought they were the best team in state by long shot. Looks like nix or njx barely got by PDA.
But they won. Congrats NJX!
NJX and SDFC are both over the top with their bosting and posting. To much talk usually backfires...As seen today by SDFC. Why did NJX make a false claim about beating PDA in spring state cup? Pretty sure the galaxy team from pda won the 11v11 bracket.
I don't see SDFC or NJX "bosting" at all. And I doubt NJX would make a false claim. Maybe you simpletons can finely realize that trolls make claims to be from a team and say dumb things in an attempt to make those teams look bad. The inaccuracy of their posts should illustrate that. I really wish they would either make this blog require registration or an IQ test.
Well any simpleton can google NJ Cup 2014 and see Galaxy beat NJX Sol 1-0 in the final. Galaxy indeed won the game. As for today NJX beat PDA Crew and not Galaxy.
If you go back to a post it was stated that Galaxy thinks it's a waste of time to be in State Cup. That's why it was posted about the NJX/Galaxy game.. They are not blowing anyone away!
So someone pretends to speak for Galaxy that State Cup is a waste, so the lemmings attack Galaxy for claiming this. Then "SDFC and nix (?) are ripped for "bosting". The Real Dummies of New Jersey Soccer saga continues.
You are blind...sdfc has been all over this blog last three weeks.
Max are rolling!
This blog is just so entertaining. Anything can be said by anyone and not really knowing where their from. I bet you there are no Galaxy parents on this blog and all this talk is being said about their team. I don't think certain coaches allow it.
That's why it's called a blog
A sincere congratulations goes out to Haddonfield, NJ Rush/Hamilton, Holmdel FC NJX, and Cherry Hill. The good news is, your girls will experience an exciting soccer memory that will last a life time. The bad news, your team, your parents, possibly your coaches and club as a whole will be criticized and mocked ad nauseum for the next 2 weeks (or longer) on this wonderful blog by its upstanding "adult" contributors.
What about the 8v8 teams, do they count?Yes they had an easy Cherry hill and Hamilton in finalsRage and Maximus in finalsSdfc is out in case anyone didn't notice
"Yes they had an easy Cherry hill and Hamilton in finals"Translation?
Good luck to all the teams in the Semis!
I can see NJX, RUSH, and CH being in the Semi's but people let's get real Haddonfield had a great draw to get there. Hopefully NJ get's it right going forward and has the Top rankings teams playing bottom ranking teams in the 1st round and so on. NCAA Basketball Bracker style!Yes congrats to all the NJ Semi-final teams.
Why is it that the NJYS state cup didn't have all it's top teams? Do you think some clubs are trying to get away from NJYS and just focus their first teams with training and US Club soccer's top leagues?
Predictions for semi finals this weekend?
2:35am. Name me 1 other top team besides PDA who didn't enter NJYS State Cup? They were the only one who didn't enter from what i saw
They didn't enter but, heard they used some girls from their A team to play in he quarter finals.
Didn't help based on the results
Did anyone warn Sol yet their players should wear Kevlar body armor this weekend?
9:03am I do not think PDA Galaxy and Nova went out of there way to NJYS Card girls on from there teams to play on PDA Crew and PDA Shore. Stop feeding wrong information. Remember teams had to lock rosters up for State Cup in the beginning. Cannot add players throughout the games.
Maximus vs Rage Renegades will be a nice Final Sunday. I know most say Rage Ren r the best or 2nd best in state.
Not hard to be top 2 in state with so few clubs playing 8v8. Heck all 8v8 clubs can claim their U12 team is Top 10 because they are!
So you're saying if Maximus or Renegades played 11v11 right now they wouldn't be a top 10 team in state? Just wanna make sure I got this right
9:03 you need to check your info because there were girls there from the A team. One was the goalie. No biggie just saying.
Not only does sol need armor they also need ear plugs so they don't here Cherry Hills parents with there foul mouths.
don't know who's saying rage renegades are best or 2nd best in state who have they played in the last 2 years?????? just wait till they go 11V11, they'll be mediocre at best
I didnt post anything about 8 x 8, but I think its impossible to figure where any of the 8 x 8 would rank. How can one argue one way or the other?
Oh stop the madness, GS or any type of rankings does not justify any team in this age level. Any team can be beaten at the top levels and as for those top 8v8 teams we will not know how well off they are until they go 11v11, so you cannot compare them yet. If you really want to talk and have conversations 8v8 and 11v11 teams should be spoken off differently.
I think all of the few top teams that Jersey has need to really expand who they're playing. How is it benefitting them playing weaker teams? They should probably keep league games to a minimum and just pick and choose who they play, even if they need to play up along with just sticking to the more training/less games method.
9;03 so was their forward
Too NJX SolYouse guys iz gonna loose da game!SignedCherry Hill Publick Relashins Departament
We all know which parent from Cherry Hill just wrote that comment!!!
1:54 you need to check your information. Yes there were girls there from Galaxy, but to watch, not play. The goalie is carded for both teams.
Is it common for the ECNL clubs to card girls for more than 1 team? I have no idea. Is the goalie the only girl Crew carded for State Cup?
Any club can put players on more than one team roster as long as they are carded with that club. Edp and the cup allow it. And the rosters for cup are locked once the championship draw is announced. http://www.njyouthsoccer.com/clubsite/?p=4807
IGFA has players rostered on more than one roster.
At least PDA uses appropriately carded players. Can't say that about other clubs in the area.
What club doesn't use appropriate carded players?
If you ask me the rules on the NJYS site are a little vague about being able to move players between teams on the same club - though I do agree that it says that roster are frozen at the time of the championship draw.But lets be frank, if any players from PDA A played, then thats not the 'Crew'. Its just PDA trying to make all its teams look as strong as they can...
Someone should check Cherry Hill's cards this weekend, they have been known to use guests for State Cup play.
Forget checking the cards for the players, check the parents IDs to see if there are any escaped convicts.
@11:49 - thats so wrong...but very funny!
934 and 1114. Cup tourney ateams re notoriously filled with the best players from each club. More all star team instead of regular season team. It is done specifically to say that the club eon the cup. Nothing new there.
@3:09 - You need to log off and concentrate on your school work. Based on your blog entry you spelling and grammar are horrendous .Oh congrats to Cherry Hill, ignore all the haters on the board I’m glad to see a regular town travel program succeed. Same goes for Haddonfield.
Aah yes. A Cherry Hill parent. Please tell us are you playing your original roster or guest players?
@3:29 - Keep assuming. Oh CH will have guess players they flew them in from other states like CA and Texas. Even one player from Brazil.
I miss Jackson!
I think that would be awesome if my daughter could play against a team with players on the roster from other states. If they're more challenging, then better for soccer developing and a better soccer game!! =P Can NJ teams only card players that live in NJ for NJYS State Cup? And I miss Jackson too! Jackson and NJ Rush Hamilton are close in terms off location. Their coaches should have got together and combined their top players, who are the most skilled overall, and just become one big SUPERTEAM. Then continue with the rest of the players on a '2nd team' at the top level as well, and continue to get them even better, with rotating practice locations for both teams, but under the RUSH name.
Cherry hill should be embarrassed to be in the final, such a dirty fouling team. One girl out with concussion from NJX and one CH girl clearly elbowed another NJX player in the face but ref only gave a yellow.They have no skills or passes just pushing and kicking. Good luck Hamilton Rush in the final, so much the better team.
Stop crying you are embarrassing your self.
Anyone who watched the CH / Holmdel game knows that the concussion had nothing to do with any CH player. An unfortunate accident completely unprovoked. Congrats to both teams and good luck tomorrow!
The elbow to the face was an accident too right? Embarrassing.
You are obviously a Holmdel parent and completely biased - posting before scores are even posted makes it clear. Both teams fought hard, why can't you just leave it at that?
A no skil tm makes it to the final of the 11 v 11 state cup? How does that happen?
Anyone have the scores from today? From the comments above I see CH won. How about the other gm?And on the 8v8 side ? I assume Rage vs Max final?
1. Who cares about 8v8??? 2. CH is a terribly coached bunch of assassins.
NJX will always have an excuse - never fails.. They can't win anything, ever.- very sad...
Feeling bad for NJ Rush. I think they were hoping to play against NJX. CH is a dirty playing team and they have had t.o deal with that team since their younger years in South Jersey soccer. But the real question is, Who is this Haddonfield team?! Playing just about equal to NJ Rush (an apparent TOP team)? Props to them. I guess that answers parents questions about rankings. Don't pay attention to rankings! Do what's BEST for your child's development of the game.
I heard NJ Rush have got every player football pads and helmets for today's final against CH.
Any information on Maximus red for today's game?
Rush won 1-0. Nice clean game on both sides.
Curious, where did all the new maximus players come from, who played this weekend? The PDA girl has been there all along. Are the new bigs from WC?
2:17pm. NJYS State Cup rosters are locked in the first few weeks of Sep. So i doubt any team has "new" players added, such as Maximus.
What was the score of the Rage vs. Maximus game?
@228 rosters are not locked until championship pick. check the earlier post
I heard it was Rage Renegades 5 - FC Maximus 1
Let's see if US Club Spring State Cup puts together an 8v8 Bracket. Does anyone think they will?Congrats NJ RUSH well deserved. 11v11 is wide open couple of weeks ago SDFC was on a role now NJ RUSH. Nice to see the competition in NJ.
US CLub had a 8v8 last Spring for U12G, why wouldn't they have it this upcoming Spring? I believe STA won it.Regardless, the U13 Fall-2015 will be that much more competitive with some teams like Rage and Maximus coming over to the 11v11 side.
Yes and STA U13 are doing well right now even though they stayed 8v8 through u12.
Exactly..it probably helped them in the long run..always good to get better in short space. There is plenty of soccer ahead at the 11v11 level. Not saying 11v11 is bad at u12 because it isn't but 8v8 certainly isn't either.
What are you guys talking about STA U13 is still hiding. All those GS points are from 8v8. Look it up they didn't even enter this Fall's NJ State Cup u13 they were in the National Championship Series u13 and didn't even make it to the finals so hiding from the strong teams didn't help much.
Does anyone know if NJ Rush continues play in the region? I don't know how it works.
1:26pm. What are you talking about? STA 13s made Semi Final and lost to NJ Wildcats who ended up winning SC.
U13's had two Brackets, two differennt scenerios.National Championship Series - NJ Wildcats vs. NJ CrushNJ State Cup - NJ RUSH vs Medford SCMy opinion there should onlt be one State Cup winner at U13 & U14. What's the point of doing two different scenerios.
Agreed 2:37pm. National Championship Series is the one that takes you to Regionals. NJ State Cup is geared towards teams who aren't good enough to compete regionally. Seems pointless to me but that's NJYS for you
It kind of is a money grabber, because winning njys state championship series at U12 is mandatory for teams to have to travel to regionals. and even for finalists...if you don't go the team gets fined $3000.00 dollars. And if they win, then they go nowhere at this age group. It doesn't matter until they're older because girls are still developing at this age and everything changes in the next couple years. You'll see.
Where do see a team get's fined $3000. Please provide back up.
http://www.njyouthsoccer.com/clubsite/?p=4815(#4: A fine of up to $3000.00 will be imposed on any team withdrawing from regional competition. For questions regarding regional competition, contact the NJYS office or Games Commissioner.)In their Q/A Section:Q. We won the NJYS National Championship for our age group. Do we have to go to Regionals A. NJYS expects its championship teams to go to Regionals. If, for unforeseen reason you cannot go, you must inform the NJYS Games Commissioner as soon as possible. There are significant fines if you withdraw late. There is a lot of information your team must put online to be able to participate in Regionals. Make sure you meet the deadlines published by the RegionIt also states: NJYS Championship winners (and selected 2nd teams) in the appropriate age groups are required to participate in the Regional and National Championships. The selected 2nd teams are based on the award of wildcard entries by the Region I Championship Committee or the Region I Premier League Competition. U12 and U13 don't advance past regionals. They don't advance to Nationals until starting at age U14. So anyway, looks like Cherry Hill could have a chance to go..haha.
@ 1:26Where do you get your info? Totally false
Why is there even talk about 13s on this U12 blog?
11:51am - Thanks for the copied info. Can someone please show us how U13 PDA Storm did at Regionals last fall when they were U12. If this is truly what happens after winning NJ National Sate Cup. I don't see a regional bracket where the champion and finalist played neighboring states in a regional bracket.Again what you see and what is said can defer. If this is what happen I would to see what state won Regionals last Fall.
Info RE PDA Storm at USYS Region 1Championship. They were finalists.http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=38588&GroupID=354580&Gender=Girls&Age=12
Let's get back to u12 please. Any update from today? Assume sdfc beats nix, just noticed they were beat by gfa, wow that's not good.
NJ Rush Team Tops in the Nation!On the heels of an outstanding performance in the NJ State Cup Championships, New Jersey Rush teams climb the charts in National Rankings. New Jersey Rush had an outstanding showing at the NJ State Cup Championships last weekend. The U12 ’02 Girls and U12 ’02 Boys won their respective US Youth Soccer National Championship Series State Cups. In all, 6 New Jersey Rush teams entered the weekend as Semi-Finalists, 5 teams advanced to the Finals and 2 were crowned Champions. After winning the U12G USYS NCS NJ State Cup Championship, the New Jersey Rush ’02 Girls received the additional honor of being ranked as the #1 U12 Team in the country by GotSoccer, the number one ranking organization for youth soccer in the USA. New Jersey Rush has found tremendous success in other age groups too with 9 teams U11-U18 currently ranked in the top 100 in the USA. Team Coach GotSoccer National Ranking Championships ’03 Girls Lisa Pittaro 42 ’02 Girls Christopher Pettit 1 NCS NJ State Champion ’02 Boys David Barbour 42 NCS NJ State Champion ’00 Girls NPL Darron Brown 29 ’99 Girls Blue Ronald Celestin 95 ’98 Girls NPL Greg Ruttler 61 NCS NJ State Champion ’97 Girls NPL David Barbour 5 NCS NJ State Champion USCS NJ State Champion ’96 Girls NPL Jeff Zoyac 38 USCS NJ State Champion ’96 Girls Blue Martin Wood 19 New Jersey Rush is a US Club Soccer National Premier League club and is becoming one of the top ranked clubs in the Region. For more information about NJ Rush, please visit our website at http://www.njrush.com or email our Director of Coaching, David Barbour at email@example.com.
Ok NJ Rush Hamilton U12 parent, congrats. We're happy that the rankings mean so much to you. Now are your players truly skilled or have the core just been together so long since they were little, so they have that chemistry and just know where they have to put the ball. I bet they start losing their top players in the next couple years, just like all the other teams.
Good question...Did sdfc win? I would think they would both post quickly, neither team has won lately. Too funny with rush post...they win a weak state cup and know they are world champs. When I looked at their got soccer, wasn't very impressive, a lot of edp points and poor tournament showings including PDA spring cup b bracket.
PDA south takes down sjeb , this team is going in wrong direction.
People need to stop focusing on the wins/losses and rankings. Remember, U12 wasn't even a ranked age before. It's so ridiculous. Worry more about your child's development.
Shut up you loser. You are probably the first to post when you win, but I'm sure your team lost today. .
U13 will be an interesting year.
We're talking about 12 year olds-will we ever give them credit for their hard work or just keep coming up with excuses for why they win and your team loses??
What? You sound like the njx mom? Another tough day?
Does anyone know why NJYS has their NCS so early compared to Eastern PA and NY East not having it until Spring?
Not sure why. But looks like most states haven't participated in their state cup. So I guess the 'rankings' will change yet again at the end of next season. Quick, all NPL teams need to rack up those points to stay ahead, no matter which tournament they do to get them ranked. It does make sense I guess, if they want to attract the players who don't quite make the cut to play ECNL but who are good enough to compete with the top NPL teams.
Looks like those few key players on NJX need to find a new home.
MF has its hands full - both teams are very weak - combining won't even help much. NJX has mostly been talk - they are good for a challenging game - but can't win anything. They won't be selected as pre ecnl - top girls wil have to change - but not a great option for them.
Does PDA Galaxy have a pre-ECNL u12 team? is it PDA Galaxy or do they have a seperate team?
With all the success mentioned above it sounds like Rush will be challenging PDA in the near future for Academy superiority. Finally an alternative to the over-priced, stale program we've all been forced to turn to.
In 2 short years the top 2 teams in the state will be galaxy in the north and nova in the south.I've seen this movie before,I know how it ends.
MF is an ECNL club for a reason. Remember, w/ US Club, players can move like fluid around their teams. When it comes time for ECNL training/play, top players from each MF team probably would start training at a Central location along with other top players from top NPL teams who are strong enough and skilled enough to play ECNL and looking to go that route. For people to understand it more, look up other ECNL clubs in other states, and how they form their teams. The strongest players combine to create teams and/or add players to their top team in their club, and that team would be their ECNL team. Why do you think Jackson probably broke up. Just bc PDA Shore is not 'winning' games against other teams that have been together forever doesn't mean those parents made a bad move. They did it for their child's development and maybe in hopes of their child in another year in a half being one of the stronger players that may have the chance to participate in the ECNL. Maybe by u13/u14 a child is not ready to play ECNL, but by u15, they are amazing and earn their spot. The child has to want it, not the parent. The child is the one who has to love this sport bad enough to better and better themselves. If not ECNL, NPL is the next level down which is still competitive. It all depends on what the child wants and what the parent is willing to do for that child if you think they have what it takes.
2:39 - Still not adding spaces after your pronunciation and drinking the PDA Kool-Aid Joe T!!!
2:39pm. What girls age group does PDA dominate with both their North and South teams? I must have missed that movie.Naive to think that other teams won't be able to develop their players to compete with PDA. All of PDAs 12s teams have lost games this season. And many to teams who you would not have thought possible. The player pool at this age is so big that other teams will always be competitive with the likes of PDA.
PDA Galaxy will definitely be one of the top teams. But PDA South, no way, not good enough, they just don't have the talent. If you're going to play for PDA, it'd have to be for Galaxy, if not stay where your at! Sorry Joe T, PDA South will not be one of the top teams
based on recruiting interest, I think so. ;)
Everyone on this U12 blog should be happy for NJ RUSH, SDFC, PDA, SJEB, RAGE, Cherry Hill, FC Maximus. There's 8 teams ranked in the top 25 and overall this prevents teams from traveling as far to find competition until U14+. We have several good teams in our area that win/lose on any given Sat/Sun. With this many options in the future, your daughter doesn't necessarily have go to an ECNL team. Will it matter anyway ECNL, NPL with this many teams ranked this high in GotSoccer, outside regional teams will want to flock to this area to come play these clubs to gain points. Even though Gotsoccer is used for ranking that nobody should follow yet but it does have it's benefits later down the line in matching correct teams up in tournaments and leagues. Isn't that all we want is to see our daughter play in top level brackets in top level tournaments and leagues.
"Based on recruiting". Who's recruiting 12 year olds. And who's really gonna go to a mediocre pda south team and pay all that money? Just because people are frustrated and are saying their coming, doesn't mean they will. Trust me, I've seen it a million times, no one's coming
@ 7:22, I'm pretty sure that they meant in the future, not now. and messed up to say a developing team is 'mediocre' when they are playing probably in the same division as your child's team, whether it be north, central, south, they're in the 1st division and holding their own. again, it's about them developing and learning the game and skills and they have a really good trainer.
@7:22, I want you to remember this conversation in a couple of years. I've seen this a million times as well when people are scrambling at U15 to get on a club with notable college commits, not low level D1'S and D3's. You can only lie to people for so long before you are exposed. Anyone who spends north of $2000 a year on soccer has hopes of their child playing in college. Let's be honest....after all it is the best policy.
Does anyone know how Jag's league is doing? Haven't heard much about them anymore since the NPL/EDP league expanded.
are you kidding me? Semifinalist in 8 v 8 - who are only semi-finalists because they were not enough teams in the cup race, and so it started as semi-finalists, were given cup points on Got Soccer? simply because these teams cant field a full-sided team, they are able to claim they are a cup semi-finalist? what a joke...
11:14am Yes agreed that is a big laugh in the soccer community. Just shows everyone how incorrect GS points can be. There should be minimum amount of teams before creating a bracket for state cup.
That is hilarious! Its like having only small and medium sizes available, and no large. You need a large size to have a medium. AND you need to have bracket rounds of play to have semi-finals!
see people - - follow your gut - - not got soccer points.
I agree it is a little corny having a state cup going straight to semis, but some teams - NJCRUSH, RENEGADES, MAXIMUS are no slouch teams
Agreed they are no slouch teams but the comment that states they don't have enough players to field full sided doesn't make sense. A few of those teams had 2 teams playing in the 8v8 state cup. So they are working on development in the small sided 8v8game vs. combining that's just a different path. Remember many other states are still 8v8 at U12. Look at the upcoming Bethesda Tournament look how many brackets are 8v8 vs. 11v11.
Yes! That's true, I forgot about that. Most states are still 8v8 at U12. Another reason not to follow GS points and take it so seriously. 'Top' teams will change in the next yr or two. And remember, top soccer clubs in the US will field their top team ECNL and their 2nd team below them NPL. ECNL teams only play against other ECNL teams in tournaments and in a National Championship. This is to ensure that the teams are getting to play against the highest elite athletes in the country for a more competitive game thus increasing a player's overall skill and ability to play their best soccer. People that hate on it, I don't understand. It's the parent and child's choice if their child is good enough or has the potential to reach a very high level of play.
There are some very good teams playing 8v8. Agreed. But one club with two teams in 8v8. Is only looking to make money. No other reason
How could it be to make more money? Makes no sense. It'd be cheaper for the club to have one team w/ all the players combined. Less cost for tournaments, ect... It's for their development. More playing time for all girls, more touches on the ball, and they probably have both teams training with eachother. Makes total sense.
It's like a pyramid. Just keep addingTwo teams = more tuition. There's only one coach. Probably only one practice time bc their space is limited. Tournaments most pay for as they go. So it's like having a roster of 30 on one team, no extra expense, bc players pick those up, just more tuition. With nowhere to go except profit. (I'm sorry these are all non-profits right) I mean salaries (oh wait there's only one coach)So you tell me. Where is the extra tuition going?
4:12pm right on the money same coached for both 8v8 teams. Figure 22+ girls roster for both teams at $2k each $44k. What a great part time job.
Have to be talking about Copa. They were 1 team last year and 11v11. This year 2 teams 8v8. Would sure like to know how they are measuring development because it can't be by W-L last year or this year. Waaayyyy too many losses to claim any type of development.
Does W-L equal development. Maybe they are working on individual development.
Does W-L equal development. Maybe they are working on individual development.
I'm curious if NJ Rush really believes they are #1 in the country? They posted the accolades. Do they really believe it? It's nice they won State Cup this fall, but can they sent they had to win just 1 challenging game against Cherry Hill? Haddonfield lost on a goalie muff. The chest pounding is comical.
How did they do in spring state cup?
NJ Rush is even with all the top teams in the Region. They are definitely not best in the country. All the top teams can all win or lose any given day. NJ Rush in this past EDP tournament, 2nd week in October, showed that.. yes, they are equal level teams to the others. They tied TSF, they lost to Dix Hill Destroyers (NYE) & tied SJEB. But all in all, the kids are excited probably about their rankings (maybe more so the parents, lol), and about their state cup win, so let them enjoy! They are only 11 and 12 year old little girls for goodness sake. MANY teams don't even partake in the whole GS point system, hence, if your daughter is an exceptional player, and you as the parent would know that or not, should know what to do to help your child reach her potential. And example of not paying attention to rankings...if you do your research, you'll see many teams not even ranked in the top 25, let alone 50, that beat out teams 'ranked' in the top 5. Just saying.
Agreed let NJ Rush enjoy the Moment. They are 11-12 year's old and just like playing and having fun doing so. Don't take this away from any team or player. Again rankings are rankings they can change month to month does anyone even have a history since August 1st on what the landscape look like month to month. I think there were different top 5 teams every month. GS is good to help tournaments bracket teams accordingly. No tournament director wants a coach barking up his ear asking to play top bracket if they haven't proven themselves yet and this is what GS helps them do.
Good weekend for the NJX/MFA Sol. 1-1 cherry Hill and 1-0 over Hamilton.
Is tying cherry hill really a good weekend or were you just trying to tell everyone you beat the rush? typical njx post
Very sad comment cherry Hill parent!
Why would you think the comment would be from a CH parent? And, why would it be a surprise that NJX tied CH and beat Hamilton (Rush)? Rush and CH would have been tied in the state final if it weren't for an unfortunate hand ball which lead to a penalty shot. But, those things happen. These are all top teams. They'll win/lose on any given day to each other. And if an NJX parent is posting the scores, who cares, that is what the blog is for. And we're ALL curious. That's why this blog even exists.
Where do you go to see scores n standings for EDP - U12. I only see standings/scores for U13 and up? I must not be going to the correct location in NPL.
Got Soccer actually has NJ Rush listed as 1st in the EDP South's 1st Division when they should actually be 2nd and West Chester should be 1st.
So true 11:49, Cherry Hill is so close to these other premier teams. Rumor is some of their parents desire a paid coach for new perspective and ability to take them to that next level.
West Chester is now currently listed as being in first place in EDP South first division. However, if Hamilton beats FC Virginia as expected, they will win first in the division.
@3:54 Do you happen to know why the guest players that CH had for state cup wouldn't just play with CH year round? That's an even better team if they would just do that.
I hear NJX/sol sent some guest players to a game on Sunday. Are they breaking up?
@ 4:10 not sure why but it wouldn't hurt to show them and others our commitment to improving by making a few changes. Might help recruit others also.
Just to confirm I am a PDA parent it was a scrimmage and the Homdel team needed a few girls because a few were on vacation.
Teams working together, unacceptable!! Don't the girls know this has to be cut-throat and mean. I guess not, the girls actually like each other it's the nutso parents who create drama. Everyone should be happy for each other and encourage one another's success in this great game.
Agree...some parents are nutso. And to be honest, rubs off on certain children who don't make the game of soccer fun to others.
Hamilton could easily lose to Virginia if they got beat by njx
Mind boggling how many girls at this age group play for multiple club teams at the same time. It certainly takes away from any team unity, and cheapens any title these teams "win" with the guest players. Curious to know - parents are you shopping your kids around like free agents? Anyone offering free tuition? Are they keeping up with school work, or do you think they may be jumping straight ftom high school to national team to pro?
Hamilton,Cherry Hill and NJX are very comparable.
Virginia will Def. beat Hamilton and probably pretty bad.
At this age individual development from all area of the game are much bigger than W & Ls......sad some parents can't see that.
@10:11 am - Don't be a hater. Guest playing just enables some girls more opportunity to better themselves and give them a different playing environment. Most high level teams keep their girls in the same positions which doesn't allow those girls to be overall great players and be able to jump into any position and feel comfortable. My guess, if you change players around on some of these teams, they wouldn't be the same. I can't believe what such negativity is swarming around with some of these parents. It's like parents are getting jealous about other people's children. I just don't get it.
@11:39 am EXACTLY!!! My child told me she wants to play for a top D1 soccer college or she doesn't want to play college soccer. Now who's job is that to allow for multiple opportunities for her individual development in the game? MINE, as her parent. Every decision I've made regarding different opportunities for her development have been well thought out. I've also had several people give me advice regarding my child, which has led to those decisions.
@10:11 my guess is you lost to one of these teams. One player does not make an entire time. @11:39 is on the money. Guest playing allows these players to develop and challenges the players on the guest team to step up their level of play. If your team is competitive, win-loss does not count. If your team can not compete with these teams, i.e. just hold your own, then your team has a lot of work to do. do not blame the one guest that showed up, she just played well.
There were roughly 370,000 high school girls playing soccer in 2013.Roughly 36,500 played college soccer (NCAA I-III, NAIA, NJCAA, other divisions), which is nearly 10%).8817 played D1 (nearly 2.4%).Good luck.
wow, really? Those are some statistics. Not only does the child have to be a soccer stand out, but has to have great grades as well along with a positive attitude I'm sure.
I am certainly not a hater but a realist. Having gone through the "elite soccer" process with older children, I am blessed with hindsight now and wiser for it. ROFL at the person who wrote that their 11 year old child "kniws now that she wants to play D1 soccer or not at all".. Really? Where is the parenting in this situation? It's parenting ego on display, not parenting skills.Do us all a favor and go sit through a College Night presentation and hear real life stories about where and how girls are playing soccer at which types of schools. I am sure the egomaniacs on this blog will be completely unaware that most ECNL sophs and juniors are going to visit schools like Tufts, Dartmouth, Bucknell, NYU etc and not Kentucky, Stanford, Texas or Rutgers. There are very real reasons for this, reasons I am not going to list here, just do your child a favor and pull your head out of the stars, and be a parent. Try something different besides ferrying them a different tournament to rack up trophies every single weekend. You will be glad you did, 5 years from now.
Grades are the most important. If your child isn't getting all A's and doesn't excel on sats then d 1 is out of the question. Remember there is someone out there as good.
Every child has different dreams and aspirations. Nothing wrong in leading your children in the direction where they may be able to fulfill them. When I was a child I had different dreams and aspirations, and I fulfilled them. I will support each one of my children in whatever they aspire to do. And again, stop hating. Every child is different and every top college soccer athlete will have totally different stories in how they made it to where they are.
look to move to a edp team. four spring from mosa where do I see middle town red team record in edp?
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