FC Star and WAGs brackets are not finalized they will adjust just like Spirit did. Tournament directors will do there homework, or the tournament will lose value in attendance.
@12:46 PM They are actually playing in EDP's 2nd Division North. Not in the NPL division of EDP. Where does it say that there is a merger with World Class? Do you have a link to back that up? The teams that suffer with league play, are the teams that came in at the top two placements in each division previously and now play teams who get automatic bids into the 1st divisions. A previous poster nailed it. It would be nice if all those top teams could play each other. US Club wouldn't allow it with their ECNL and NPL and control over other leagues now. When it comes down to it, it's probably all about money. They psychologically make people start thinking that if their child is not a member of their certain clubs, that their children may not develop to their potential. And trust me, the controllers of US Club like to have the power and control. Just look at how the team placements are. Depending on certain licenses, memberships that you have to be accepted ect.- is the deciding factor on whether or not this team can play that team. It's not even about the true top teams playing each other anymore. It's ridiculous.
I'm the Top Team poster and many thanks for the Kudo's. 253 I agree to many controlling objects from happening now, even though GS is not a bad tool it still helps with organizing the best teams. Wish youth soccer had a setup like Little League World Series even other countries come over for that.
@253. Maximus was bought out by World Class. The original assumption was that World Class would take over the U13G team, hence pre-ecnl team, but manager of Max didn't want that, so they basically just joined with Arsenal and call it Max Arsenal. This is what the poster was referring to I believe.
Spent some time trying to read the posts about the potential shift in age brackets vs "u-13" groupings. It seems like when they do it, it will absolutely cause issues. I'm sure for the big clubs with depth at every age bracket, and quality at every age bracket, it works, but at all but those biggest groups, many teams have been together for a while and enjoy being together while playing good soccer. I can't seem to figure out exactly what the benefit is? They couldn't seriously consider such a massive change to benefit such a small few?
928 I think it will be more of an option for clubs to do it as it will cause a huge ripple effect in the smaller and town clubs. I'd prefer if they kept it the way it is as the current carding system does group many of the kids almost to the same school grade year, with only small % born in Aug. only but those kids can always play up. Going calendar year will cause a hugh impact half the kids on the team will be in different grades.
That is a good thing. Kids should have more opportunity to get to know kids outside of their own grade.
1219 isn't playing at club levels a way to meet kids outside there school and grade also.
My daughter's team won't be affected. They are all mostly 02's and in the same grade and maybe a couple a grade up. This change will actually benefit them developmentally as they are one of the top teams that need to be more challenged. Would be great to see some teams possibly change and become stronger.
Many teams do have kids from a variety of schools on the team. But the new age guidelines apply to all teams. More localized town teams, with many players are from the same grade and district, can benefit from greater interaction between grades.
132 Yeah I can see the town level teams now, half will be in high school and other half will 8th graders next year. I can see a lot of fall sessions with players missing due to high school soccer. Oh wait so how does that benefit my daughter when half the team is missing at practice. If they go calendar year we'll be moving to a club team next year any.
See ya later...they are changing
2:07, go read the minutes from the last time they tried voting on it and it was shot down. same reasoning, little benefit, big burden. I don't see how playing all 02s together is stronger than a mix of 02/03s. You can have 02s from Jan being 12 months from a Dec 31st 02. Same 1 year gap as you'd have in the current scheme. This reminds me of some democratic stupidity where they do things just to do them thinking that in doing something they've done something whenin fact they've done nothing but hurt the system.why stir the pot just to stir the pot. 99% of the kids out there just want to enjoy the sport with their friends, teammates, classmates, and while they love watching Mia Hamm, they know they arent nor want to be Mia Hamm. The more you turn off kids from the sport believing something like this helps, the more you hurt the sport. I still have yet to hear a valid reason for this change other than grouping kids the way the US National team does so.
Personally I think the ODP and US National recruitment should adjust based on the current carding system or move it Sept 1st to Aug 31st. So when they get older and recruitment comes into play majority of the girls are in the same grade.207 you are on the button it was shot down last time so we'll see come January if it is shot down again.
Folks, they made the change and it was documented and proven on this blog a month ago. I don't have time to do your research, but things are not going your way. Let me guess, you have a 2002 child and probably born early fall. All the advantages she has had may just go away and at the worst time. At least she will still be the oldest in her grade and get here license early.
758 Until they make it publicly aware of on U.S. Club and U.S. Youth's website and not a bunch links people find. When the leagues & tournaments send out an official notice then we can talk about next steps. I've seen this played out so many times with converting games to 8v8 v 11v11 at the U11 & U12 ages and took almost 4-5 years to adopt that and still a ongoing process as U12 as some clubs still play 11v11 at U12. As moving to 8v8 games down to U11 and U12 were talked about back in 2010 when clubs wanted to follow a more European model.If it does happen then it may just happen on the top girls league(ECNL) only similar to what the boys academy have going by calendar year but all leagues and tournaments are through a carding process. And remember those carding systems are for insurance purposes so health legal thing will need to be passed on that aspect of the system.Keep in mind Gotsoccer will have a nightmare on there hand as teams reset there history as you can't carry you points over to team under a certain rules. Half your team is 03 and other half is 02 but are ranked on two different levels who gets those points total nightmare for clubs. LOL
I agree with 10:48am. If this were definitely happening then US Club or US Youth Soccer would have sent out an announcement. Instead we have a website link from a club in California as i recall?I'll believe it when i see it.
Yup total agree to many moving pieces for them to implement across the board. I'll wait to see it as well.
It's 2016 optional , then 2017 mandatory. It's all good and have been told by DOC it's going into effect.The real reason this helps is to keep girls playing against stronger competition, this is the number one thing you can do for development.Why would you want you daughter to be playing with younger girls instead of older girls? Yes, this will force a bunch of 2002 girls to move up and have to compete against the other best 2002 girls, but this is what you should want. If playing time and friends is more important to you, then move to rec.
@August 13, 2015 at 1:35 PM THANK YOU!!! I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!
135 Please send us proof it's optional than mandatory some DOC's have claimed that and others have claimed it's still in discussion. Please provide us all proof from U.S. Club's website or US Youth that it states what you have blogged. If I'm wrong I'm man enough to admit it and my daughter is 03 and her team is majority 02's so I would feel see will be brought down on level of play due to this change. So your statement is unjustified.
@2:29 PM > I wouldn't worry about your 03'. She could continue playing with the 02s if she is one of the players that the team depends on. If she doesn't get much playing time because she is not playing at the same level as the other girls, than it wouldn't be a bad idea having her drop down to play with girls born in her own birth year of 03.I also did hear from our club about it being mandatory in 2017. At that time the girls will already be in HS, si wouldn't really matter anyway.
235 If your in an ECNL club which many DOC's have talked about it I understand where you are getting this info from as I am also in the same boat but still would rather see it come the TOP and make it public. We are talking about the other 90% of girls in other clubs outside the ECNL structure where it will probably start first as those DOC's have not confirmed any of that yet. Yes I do worry about my own daughter '03 and she is on the upper level on her team so I would have her play up if it does that way but that's going to be decided on how many '02's come down from the '01's. Again it's a ripple effect that's going to cause chaos.
They should leave all things alone. If they want to go to birth year they should start at the younger ages that are just beginning. This will cause problems for lots of teams with little or no benefit for most
They can't start with one year or that first group would only have a half year of players to start with. Would not have enough to field teams in some cases. It is out of my control so I will not worry about it. Maybe the roster changes will be for the better.
Spirit schedule posted any predictions?
playing with older kids is not valid. The girls will always have a 12 month window whether its U13 or Jan12002 to Jan 31 2002. There will always be someone who could be 12months older or younger than someone else. someone born lets say July 2003 is the youngster right now, becomes a mid-aged if we went calendar. sorry, playing with older is not statistically valid argument.
Why does Spirit have 3 pre-ECNL teams(FC Stars, Council Rock, & FC Virginia) in 2nd flight if these teams are supposedly the best of the best players within an area let them play in the top bracket to really see what the squad is made of as since there are a few in Top bracket I think will not compete.
Who said ECNL is always the best of the best? It is the best of the kids that try out for the team.
@ 1:01 pm - It's not by the 'acronym' placed next to the team name showing which league the team is playing in or will be playing in. If top tournaments want to remain being top tournaments, they have to place the teams in brackets based on their playing history. Not for which league they play in. Every league will be lop sided. Tournaments are where you will hopefully get the true match ups. Why else do you think ECNL teams can't participate in State Cup? Because if they lose, ...you get it. Enough said.
I think 101 was being sarcastic everyone as he/she was pointing out they automatically do not get top level just because of a prefix. Everyone knows ECNL is just Hype at U13 that's why the pre-fix "PRE" is there referencing the pre-team before they make 50% turnover next year. lol
Well 2:54 pm, I think 2:45 pm means U13/U14/U15 ect...
Nothing against Gotsoccer but it shows who the true teams are and will keep those top teams playing top level in tournaments as well.
GotSoccer doesn't always show true top teams. Look for example at US Club's Mid Atlantic Regional. You don't get enough quality top teams participating but winners get so called Gotsoccer points and a so called meaningless title. And at U13 and above placement into getting into a National Final run when they can't cut it winning US Club state cup.Here was that schedule: http://soccer.sincsports.com/TTSchedules.aspx?tid=USCLUBB&year=2015&stid=USCLUBB&syear=2015&div=U12F01Notice how they can put whatever teams in there that apply. Title chasers keep the parents of those teams satisfied and staying there because they are participating in these money grabbers that give them points and a winning title of something.
I see some teams using "pre" before their NPL team. Looks like it's an epidemic.
1:20 You are onto something about title chasers, pleasing parents, and plumping up a club with titles. I have a friend whose daughter plays for Copa FC. For the past two years they've played in the U.S. Club Southeast Regional instead of the Mid-Atlantic Regional. I don't understand why this club would have their teams compete in a region that isn't there, make their kids play in North Carolina, and make parents shell out more time and money for what appears to be an unnecessary travel trip for "titles." This year's Mid-Atlantic regional was at PDA. Copa could have saved their parents money and time and have the players sleep in their own beds. I guess Copa FC has no problems chasing "titles" and using the financial backs of decent, hardworking moms and dads to puff up the club.
Finally the 1st batch of games start this weekend good luck to all at Spirit and really look forward what many teams will look like this coming fall.
This has bothered me all weekend and all the talk to converting to calendar year. After watching the USA blow out Costa Rica, why all the rush to change to calendar year. Whom is it to say we are falling behind other countries on the women's side of soccer in the U.S. Clearly we dominated or have showed plenty of promise for the past 15 years and all those players grew up in the current format and probably even played 11v11 at U11. I say if it isn't' broke don't fix it! Also it looks like the men's side is struggling and their academy format has been calendar year for some time now.U.S. Club & U.S. Youth don't let these over sea characters say we are falling behind on the women's side because clearly based on the success stories they are not.
FC stars - to bad rage has to play MF and WCFC in you bracket - both very weak teams.i wonder what team MF ecnl is? Have they mixed njx girls into the team?
7:01 maybe you should consider finding out the facts before posting. Many FC Copa players of all ages were in Canada watching the World Cup games during the time that PDA hosted its mid Atlantic regional. Can't be in two places at once. I'm sure if you bothered to actually talk to your friend about the trip you would have discovered this, but instead you come on here bashing a team you know nothing about, and and posting about an age group which is irrelevant to this one. Go crawl back under your rock, please.
Girls U13 ChampionshipBracket A ALBERTSON FURY '02 (NYE)PHWM SC FURY (MD)PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY NOVA (NJ) Bracket BPENN FUSION SA PREECNL'02 GIRLS (PAE)NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS BLUE (FKA RAGE FC RENEGADES) (NJ)SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (NEW) (MA) Bracket CHMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC (PAE)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)CHERRY HILL FC DESTROYERS '02 (NJ) Bracket DCLARKSTOWN 2003 WHITE-ROZYCKI (NYE)AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 02 NPL (MA)CONTINENTAL FC PRE-ECNL '02F (PAE) EliteBracket A SJEB '02G NPL (NJ)AZTEC SOCCER GIRLS 02 NEP (MA)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 02 GIRLS (PAE) Bracket BCT RUSH SW 02/03 (CT)INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 02-03 02-03 (NJ)RAGE SC '02 ATHLETICA (PAE) Bracket CFC STARS OF MASS WEST PRE ECNL (MA)ISA SLAMMERS 02 (NYE)COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS RED PRE-ECNL (PAE) Bracket DFC VIRGINIA PREECNL 02 (VA)STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 02 (NJ)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS HELIOS BLACK (PAE) PlatinumBracket A ATLETICO FC GIRLS '02 (NYE)NORTH UNION UNITED 02F STRIKERS (PAE)PARKLAND AREA SC PASC FORCE (PAE) Bracket BCESC CALVERT SQUAD WHITE (MD)DELAWARE RUSH (DE)MONTGOMERY UNITED MONU 02'S (PAE) Bracket CDELRAN FC UNION (NJ)SUPERNOVA FC SUPERNOVA 02/03G BLACK (PAE)EAST ISLIP SC LIGHTNING (NYE) Bracket DTWIN COUNTY SA XTREME 02/03 (NJ)WARRINGTON SC FC NINJAS (PAE)BRENTWOOD SC STORM (NYE) PremierBracket A HARLEYSVILLE FC HFC READY '02 (PAE)FC BERNA LEGACY 02G GOLD (NJ)PHWM PATRIOTS (MD) Bracket BCONTINENTAL FC NPL '02F (PAE)ARUNDEL ASA ARSENAL (MD)PENN LEGACY FC PL 02 BLACK F (PAE) Bracket CNJ ELITE '02/'03 (NJ)FALLSTON FREEDOM (MD)BALTIMORE BAYS LEGACY (MD) Bracket DMOUNT LAUREL UNITED PRIDE (NJ)PENN FUSION SA NPL'02 GIRLS (PAE)LOWER MERION SC THUNDERBOLTS (PAE) GoldBracket A COUNCIL ROCK UNITED FC BUCKS RAMPAGE (PAE)HAVERFORD ELITE 02 (PAE)HMMS GALAXY (PAE) Bracket BFC EUROPA ATTACK (PAE)PENNSYLVANIA PSA 02 WHITE (PAE)HERSHEY 02 ORANGE KICKKATS (PAE) Bracket CFC YORK 02 ELITE (PAE)LEE MOUNT VERNON SC LMVSC PATRIOTS RED 02 (VA)YMS HEAT (PAE) Bracket DVINCENT UNITED INTEGRITY (PAE)SMS BLAST WHITE PREMIER (MD)HUNTER SC MUSTANGS (PAE) SilverBracket A Bracket B CONTINENTAL FC BARCA '02F (PAE)PATRIOT FC RED VIPERS (PAE)GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED FUTBOL GBUFC RED '02 SELECT (NYW)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS HELIOS RED (PAE) Bracket BFC PROVIDENCE STRIKERS (PAE)PREMIER MUSTANGS (MD)SUPER NOVA 02/03G (PAE)WARRINGTON WHITE WILDCATS (PAE) BronzeBracket A METHACTON UNITED SC FORCE (PAE)FC YORK 02 PREMIER BLUE (PAE)PIPELINE SC RED (MD)WEST CHESTER UNITED SC EAGLES'02 GIRLS (PAE)PHWM SC ARSENAL (MD) WhiteBracket A Bracket B ROSE TREE SC FIREWORKS (PAE)LIGHTHOUSE FORCE (PAE)DONEGAL YOUTH SOCCER LIGHTNING '02 (PAE) Bracket BLANGHORNE NESHAMINY UNITED VENOM (PAE)RADNOR SAMBA G02-03 (PAE)LANSING KNIGHTS YO LKYO INTER MAYFAIR (PAE)
@7:01 - Wow, that's crazy. But, you know why they are doing that right? Copa plays on Rutgers turf and Rutgers coach is girls' DOC at PDA. Don't you think they have some sort of agreement, possibly both financially and use of fields, so that both clubs can try and earn a 'title'. I've almost had enough of soccer and it's politics in general. It's quite disturbing all around.
From other blog:From NTX:I wanted to update you on the changes that are underway with the USSF Player Development Initiatives.This is what we believe to be true at this point in time. We are still verifying some aspects of this and will let you know if changes take place. This will affect all:- North Texas Member Associations' registration of players and formation of teams- North Texas Competitive Club team formation- North Texas league playing rules and field layouts- All other Federation organizationsI have attached some documents to help you understand the initiatives.The Player Development Initiatives presentation was provided to us by the Federation to help explain the small sided game plan. It outlines their recommendations on field size as well as the number of players on the field, game length, etc.The highlights of the small sided formats are:U8 and below - 4 v 4, no goal keeperU9, U10 - 7 v 7, goal keeper, but no puntingU11, U12 - 9 v 9We are expecting some lattitude on the sizes of fields as associations and playing leagues are working with any field modifications necessary.I have also attached a spreadsheet that has two tabs. One tab compares where we are now with where we need to be by 2017 on small sided soccer. The key differences for NTX are the U7/U8 age group, where we will need to move down to 4 v 4 and the U11/U12 age group where we need to move down to 9 v 9. We are recommending that we move the U7 to 4 v 4 and the U11 to 9 v 9 next year, so that when they move up to U8 and U12 the following year, they will be keeping the same playing format. Then going into 2017, everyone will have transititioned to the desired format.There is another tab on the calendar year age groups. North Texas Soccer is planning to make this change for the 2016/2017 playing year. We are in the process of confirming with USSF that these are the correct birth years for the correct age groups for 2016/17 and that all of the other programs that we interact with are changing at the same time. It will mean that half of each current age group will repeat their age group, if they decide to play within their calendar birth year age group.We will be extensively revising the North Texas rules, submitting them to the membership for approval at the mid-year AGM in January. To minimize the disruption to already formed teams, we are recommending changes to the rules regarding playing up. Keeping in mind that a team is always designated by the age of their oldest player, we are recommending that players be permitted to play up at any age group. Then teams with half of their players with one calendar year birthdate and half with another can continue to play together, just designated as the older age. Associations and clubs could then begin at the youngest age groups with players all from the same calendar birth year and phase into age pure teams. In addition, any new players added to teams could be added to their own calendar year age group. If a club or association wanted to go ahead and make adjustment to existing teams, hopefully with minimal upset to players and parents, theywouldhave the ability to do that.We will plan time at the AGM to discuss the implementation of these changes, so we are all ready to start with registration in next summer. I will also be working with the Competitive Committee to make any rules recommendations necessary to help make this a smooth transition. This is a lot of changes in a very short period of time and we are very fortunate to be working with a great group of associations and clubs that I am sure will work together and get this done.Thank you for all you do for the players and your organizations.Sincerely,JanetJanet CampbellYouth CommissionerNTX Soccer
@August 17, 2015 at 12:26 PM SEE - - No changes have to really be made at this age group with already formed teams.
Only if the team is willing to play at the oldest player's year.So, if you have four '02 players and 13 '03's, the team will probably want to play at '03 and will leave the '02's to find a different team.
PDA hosted the 2014 Mid-Atlantic regionals too. But Copa went to NC last year in addition to this year. It doesn't make sense to have parents unnecessarily travel and pay money when the appropriate regional is a stone's throw away from Rutgers.
Teams don't make decisions clubs do. No guarantee this will happen next year, there is a chance an agreement will be made so that everyone goes together in 2017. Be a bit of a mess if some go in 2016 and some go in 2017. Biggest issue is fields, clubs need an abundance of time to make sure they have enough fields of the right size. Sounds easy, but it's not. Won't be finalized until winter as I understand it.
Can someone explain who the match fit pre ecnl team is playing at stars? What a joke, they have no team.
Stars has updated brackets - still no schedules. Looks like some nice changes. And I agree that MFFC should not be in top bracket.
SDFC shouldn't be in the first bracket either and why is PDA in such a low bracket?
PDA Crew? Because they are average, hence the low flighting.
i read crap like this, i want to throw up all over the poster. " PDA Crew? Because they are average, hence the low flighting. August 19, 2015 at 10:57 AM "How in the world would you even know what good soccer is? you're a soccer website troll with zero life that you qualify and quantity a really nice U13 girls soccer team at one of the best clubs in the nation, girls who probably can hold even with their best sister teams. All of you people who think you know anything about this game shoudl just resign yourselves to dropping off your kids at practice and picking them up. If you want to be constructive, feed them well, tell them how proud of them you are, and leave it at that. I'd imagine 90% of the people on this site have no idea about soccer rules, regulations, formations, watch professional soccer, but yet some how are qualified to rank team.
Wow, PDA parent practically crying bc someone called your child's team average. Better to realize that now, instead of later when you're waiting and waiting for those college offers to come in...
Tell me why PDA Crew deserve to be flighted higher? No need to be upset by the previous posters summary of the team. They are a mediocre team until they prove otherwise.
It's a new season. Why don't we wait and see a few scores before we make dumb statements.
MFA should Def. be dropped to a lower bracket. Feel for those kids. New team , new club, and new beginning.
Why would they want to be there? Bad for club and for people spending so much time and money to travel for good comp.Wake up matchfit and do the right thing.
Nova takes Spirit this weekend. Calling it now!
@August 21, 2015 at 1:13 PM Is your daughter on that team?
@136 - Yup!
Oh ok. I think playing PHWM SC FURY should be a bit easier competition. ALBERTSON FURY '02 will be the team that will be the true match-up with your daughter's team in Bracket A. Could possibly go either way with those two teams to make semis but I'd say Nova should get into the semis.Bracket B, tough call in that one. I'd probably go with NJ Rush Blue. Bracket C, HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC to make the Semis, my guess.Bracket D, CONTINENTAL FC my other guess.Final Prediction - NJ Rush Blue vs HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC w/ NJ Rush Blue taking the overall win.
@249 You really have a lot of time on your hands to analyze 12 year old soccer teams. lol
Doesn't take much time to throw out predictions. And what does age have anything to do with it? Most parents take an interest in the age group that their child plays. You are obviously interested as you spend your time checking postings if you are coming on this blog, and probably have a child in this age group, hopefully that is.
I come here to get a laugh at what other crazy parents do, and yes I'm good with my club(#1 in the country) and having a very respectable coach.
@ 3:44 PM - I THINK YOU ARE ARROGANT AND A CREEPER.
I think 3:44 is pretending to be a parent from a club that he/she is not really part of to make a bad rep for parents of players from there.
Kids are probably on here also. If they can go about there own on social media apps and sites what makes you think some kid isn't on here.
PDA Nova with a strong effort so far at Spirit.Surprised that Penn Fusion lost to the old Rage Renegade team, even with one of their players going over. Though, they did beat PF 4-0 in the spring.2:49 is looking pretty good right now.
Looks like Pipeline stepped up their play this season. All teams are probably a bit different now.Might be NJ Rush Blue or Nova vs Pipeline in the final
The good Albertson Fury team or shall I say better team is playing at the FC Stars Cup. Probably got the two confused.
There were some good games this weekend. I was very impressed with one of Nova's goalkeepers. She was phenomenal at pk's. She picked the correct side everytime in the shootout until she made a save that put Nova in the finals.
434 Yes there was great weather and weekend of good soccer hopefully FC stars is the same! Hope to see many familiar faces up there as well. Nova seemed like they proved there and HMMS seems to be the strongest in the tri-state area.
HMMS I guess is the team to play this year.
223 You must be from PF or Rage if you were the only person to acknowledge of certain player movement. Yes Nova impressed and played well our newer additions have given us a stronger team and NJRush/Rage played strong but are coming off a long break. HMMS also has been playing all summer if you look at their history and sometimes that helps with conditioning going into a pre-season tourney. To early to tell who the better teams will be good luck this season.
@11:32 AM agree with your post.
ODP selections came out today. What is the ODP program? Does it cost money and is it worth it?
Yes, it was great 5 years ago. It's a money grab now and everyone knows that.
ODP is all about the money. Did it with my older daughters. They had a great experience the first year but then we learned what it was all about. $$$ Will never do it with my others.
U.S. Soccer has press release. It's official. Calendar year is in effect.
Dam this age group of 02's and 03's have the biggest impact! Parents will have to weigh in on heavy discisions. If your daughter is a younger 02 going to compete against many of the older 02's playing u14 this fall. If your older 03 playing with 02's now do stay down and playing with younger 03's back at U13.Going to be tuff call for many.I would start looking at rosters DON's now.
Very few girls on the best teams at the best clubs will have the option to play up, unless the team above is weak and in need of stronger players. Many of the second tier clubs will ride out the next few years playing up, but won't be able to compete at the highest levels anymore. May be a great time to look at the power house clubs, if you fall on the younger side of the fence. The advantage for so many fall bates just went the other direction at the worst possible time. The college showcases are two short years away.
Dumb leading the dumber over that at US Soccer. Lets hear it for the truly stupid!
936 Agreed! So many kids on the younger end of the calendars will lose so much confidence at the younger ages and quit the sport and coaches at the town level travel will take advantage and flow there best teams with kids born on the older side of the year. Stupid move US Soccer. Women's soccer has strived and become a national hit why change something that is not broken. As you can see it's not working well on the academy side of the boys side going calendar year.
@ 942.Said the parent of the August born kid.The world will not collapse. Kids are not going to quit soccer because of their birthdate.
I find it funny because either system will have younger or older players.What complainers blatantly fail to realize is that this system will mesh nicely with high school soccer.In the current setup, you could have U14 teams with half the team playing high school soccer.Just let it play out. If your kid is good enough, they will get taken care of. If you're on the bubble and worried about their age, then you must do what is best for their development.
1109 You are incorrect the newer system will not mesh nicely with high school as the current system is closer to school calendar. Unless you school system start Jan 1st. I know most of cut off dates for NJ, NY, PA start between Sept 1 and Oct 1st so Aug 31 only leaves a one month gap as the new system puts a 3 or 4 month gap.
@11:32 from yesterday. Nope. But, if your kid is in US Soccer Training and you can hold a conversation with parent, you tend to find out things.9 players left SJEB, with 5 of those going to Bucks.Interestingly enough, Bucks beat SJEB in the 2nd flight at Spirit.
I guess I'm still trying to wrap my head around the change since I didn't really think it was going to go through. Does it actually work out better though for the kid with the June/July birthday who has always been the youngest kid on the team because of the Aug 1- July 31 soccer cutoff who will now actually be in the middle of the pack from a calendar year perspective?
I think you'll find that most teams won't change their roster based on the birth year mandate by US Club. Our girls will be 02s or 03s meaning a successful team right now should be pretty competitive in an 02 environment. The age gap between a Jan 02 and Dec 02 is relative to what it was with an Aug 1st 02 and July 31st 03 player. So US Club saying it will be better for players development is a ridiculous rationale. Doesn't make any sense to change the system on the girls side, it's obviously working as the Womens team just won the World Cup convincingly! If they'd have got knocked out in the first round then i could maybe understand the need to change the system.
@1115 Why re-explore what happened to SJEB everyone knows of there separation this blog the poster was referring to Nova and Rage game and HMMS being as strong as they are. Who cares of knowledge of players flocking together to Bucks it's done move on.
if you don't change, the powerhouse clubs will get even stronger, because they will change and there is no way you can compete against them playing with a team playing half up, let alone even. Maybe you were the guy asking for proof and saying it would never happen, and now you believe tthe teams won't change. I feel sorry for some of the girls, many will lose starting positions, other will be moved to b teams at older age groups. The good news is, the other half will get new start and become starters on the A teams, or at least compete at a stronger level.
If sjeb lost all these girls, why doesn't the coach move them down a level or two at stars. Same thing for MF and wc, move down and don't waste others teams time and money. Where did the other 4 girls go? I assume with joe t at nova or did they move to rage? Many of them are 2002 and will be moving up with the Storm players next year. Maybe they get lucky and Mike o takes the 2002 team and keeps all 28 of them.
Wow 9 girls! I was wondering why they were in Flight 2 at Spirit. Losing 9 is a huge turnover good for them to still be competing as many teams that lose that many girls end up folding up as a team.
Well- they did lose a team because they had to combine the east and west together as one team. I heard talk during the tournament this past weekend that the age below lost a bunch of players recently so I wonder if they will end up doing that with that U12 age bracket and go from 2 teams down to 1. Somehow they are just not able to retain their top players long term.
Is this calendar year thing just for Club and Acad teams or is this for fall Highschool teams as well?
Does this effect reg travel teams that play in NOrthern counties league? What about mcysa league, since they don't card through US Club?
1259 You should be using names on this blog!
@11:50 so what?Sure i think anyone/everyone acknowledges this. But the change in age groups doesn't fix it.It just shifts it. Now a different set of kids will be the youngest.US soccer didn't help this in anyway - if they wanted to address that as a problem, they should have looked at other options like 6month windows for the age brackets.Now you've just shifted the problem to a different set of kids AND caused them to be less aligned with the kids they go to school with.Makes no sense - ok, the rest of the world does it that way. But it hasn't harmed the women's side to this point so why do it that way when there are other drawbacks...
Is NJYS going to the calendar yr also?
106 Yes if it is NJYS is under Youth Soccer and their carding process is also so I assume they will follow suite after the instructions are carried out.
The problem with what US Soccer has done is that they've catered to the minuscule % of players who might benefit from going to calendar year (those at the National team level). But a lot of players who play on the same team as their best friends, or school friends who might have played for that main enjoyment factor will now find it difficult to do so. Meaning they are at a high risk of dropping out. Likewise the problem when one team graduates with half Seniors and half Juniors. What do those Juniors do for the remaining year when they turn to Seniors? A lot of teams will have to merge in the final year of soccer, of which some are still being recruited for College, placing them at risk of not being seen by their Colleges of choice.I honestly do not see the advantages of changing the system.
Yes, but NJYS to totally different than US Club.. I haven't seen anything about NJYS going to calendar yr
Does this affect playing High school Soccer? (Varsity, JV, etc)
NJYS is directly affiliated with USYSA and USSF which both have adopted the changes. US Club has adopted officially.I'm sure NJYS will follow along willingly.Most larger clubs will probably want to make a switch earlier than later as they have the numbers and will allow them to seamlessly transition and win. Realistically, if clubs delay the change, if you have an '03 U12 or an '02 U13, and you know the current team will probably not play up to the oldest player, I would make the change as soon as is realistic. Don't want to be standing on the deck of the Titanic with no lifeboat.
Can anyone answer the H.S question? Im curious about that too....Also, I have a May child currently playing U13. So according to the chart in 2016, she will still be a U13 next fall when she is in 8th grade, is that correct? If so, she'll play U13 then go straight into H.S, something doesn't seem right?
It has nothing to do with Highschool this is youth club soccer. But as for the new calendar year for club this will help the cross play between 17,18 years at the club level because of some graduating from HS and others not. By that age they will be playing with multiple age groups anyway.
My daughter is an 03, going into 7th grade. Almost half her team now are 02's and are going into 8th grade. Now it will be the opposite effect, she will have girls that are going into 6th grade playing with her. It's just a realignment to national team standards. There will always be players that are 11 months apart in any scenario and a school grade apart. The only concern is if your daughter is a bubble 02, she will now have more competition to deal with moving to an older group team. And who are the posters to say what is better? that will remain to be seen. Maybe it will have a positive affect. If this is implemented next year, then U13 03's will be playing U13 again.
So what happens to the 02's who are now playing u13 and going into 7th grade? If they play with the 02's that are now going into 8th grade, the younger 02's won't have a team in the fall of their 8th grade year when the older 02's are playing high school.
826 2002 exactly have the same scenario well it's possible the 02's going into high school will end up playing club ball anyway and bypass high school freshman year unless they are selected for the Varsity team. It is a trend of high schools are doing away with freshman teams and only doing JV and Varsity due to funding anyway.
@August 26, 2015 at 8:26 PM This is what I am worried about. What will most teams do about that?
I had a discussion with my coach since she will go into HS next fall and advise when tryouts occur to move her up with the 01's and see if she can make that squad as the majority of players will be in HS and will not start training until after HS season is over. If not then she will have to play Club and HS next fall, but will limit her club's practice sessions until the HS season winds down.
if you're a top kid on a top club team, you'll deal with it because you want to play forever. you get crossed up in 2017 and whacked again when you go to high school the next year. but you accept it. the midpack and low pack kids on all those thousands of rec teams...they will quit. and all for what gain? what is the value? There isn't any. I challenge someone on this board to state a legitimate gain that might benefit more than the .005% of kids playing who are ECNL teams or national teams. And then i challenge how this change is really that more benefitial to them? don't EcNL girls play high school? rosters of 23, you'd think some might not risk it, but many great players do both especially those who want the extra exposure and social fun of it.
The only truly logical thought I have regarding this, other than trying to be like every other country in the world, is the RAE (Relative Age Effect).My guess is that the powers in US Soccer want the early emphasis of the higher quality training going to the girls that are in the Olympic development calendar year cycle. Just a guess, but it makes some sense.Otherwise, I do agree, many girls will quit soccer if not drawn in by the same grade social aspect. That is a shame.
Personally clubs and league need to push back as I see they will. To much change in a small window. A slow process of starting it at U8 born 2009 then gradually go from there. To change it in all age groups is just insane!
Teach them some resilience. If a changing soccer team roster is their biggest challenge of the year then it is a very good year!
3:29pm. Completely agree that it should be a slow change. Debatable they will do that though!
Hoe do you start at U8 or at any one year? Half the birth year kids will already be on teams and there will not be enough players for all the clubs to field teams. The age groups must be set for all players at the same time so each age group has a 12 month span of players from which to field teams.
This is the best link i have seen highlighting the problems around changing to the birth year systemhttp://soccerparenting.com/2015/08/27/4-real-issues-to-consider-before-switching-to-birth-year-registration/
You'd like to think that clubs can push back and say no to US Soccer, that changing the system is not beneficial and in fact brings up more problems than it solves. But US Soccer won't listen and change their minds, unfortunately it's been planned out by them for a while and the "brains" of soccer in this country decided it was for the best and was the only way for the Country to compete at the highest level. Complete nonsense to change the system due to relative age effect, when the term "relative" is thrown in there then surely time is relative regardless when the start date is?Why would a January start improve players more than an August start? It just moves the measuring stick to somewhere else. Why not start in May or in November? Scientifically it wouldn't matter when the start date is in terms of development, whatever that date is set as simply shows thats the oldest player, hence they should be more physically developed.Countries in Europe still go by school year in terms of forming teams and they seem to know what they're doing given their success.End of the day the change won't happen until the Leagues and Tournaments begin to announce when they will be making the switch. And the chances of everyone doing it at the same time are very slim. Recipe for disaster for a lot of clubs as if they do switch to birth year and find out that only 3 tournaments they were planning on going to are also making the switch then what are they going to do with the rest of their tournaments?I think US Soccer has many questions to answer before they should move forward with this change.
It's over, decision has been made, time to deal with change.
Yup start looking at current roster, team above and team below. Gonna be circus the next 8 months. I personally cannot wait if my daughter is capable of playing with older kids I'm fine with it as she will need to face reality when she hits high school anyway.
Sorry but other countries are better with there youth is because there youth soccer players play everyday. It doesn't matter if it's in the street, a dirt parking lot or against a wall those kids are playing everyday. It's not until they hit the older ages like 13 - 19 they pace themselves to prevent injuries. That's how this country will get better none of this calendar or field change ideas. You will see a large drop of kids participating in soccer for the years to come due to this change. Wake up US Soccer Women's soccer is successful don't change what is not broke.
Sorry but other countries are better with there youth is because there youth soccer players play everyday. It doesn't matter if it's in the street, a dirt parking lot or against a wall those kids are playing everyday. It's not until they hit the older ages like 13 - 19 they pace themselves to prevent injuries. That's how this country will get better none of this calendar or field change ideas. You will see a large drop of kids participating in soccer for the years to come due to this change. Wake up US Soccer Women's soccer is successful don't change what is not broke.
Age change is not going to happen in 2016. Too many opposing it. Some you wouldn't expect like colleges. Everyone behind field changes but they have work to do to avoid a fight over the calendar change. Colleges have little clout with the Federation, but a lot of the clubs whose primary goal is college scholies. If they make the change compromise will be teams fielded by grade at the big clubs.
Funniest Comment I just heard, wow Japan just won the little league world series. USA hasn't won it in 4 years I think they need to change it to calendar year for baseball leagues. LOLEven little baseball in US and international doesn't go by calendar.
Little league switched to calendar year just last year. They did it like a band-aid, quick rip. People complained at first but that noise quieted down very quickly.This change will happen.
Clearly those panicked are those with the '02 birthdays, especially in clubs with powerful u14 teams. I've seen a lot of nervous parents on the sideline.
No little league is May 1 cutoff.
Little League is going to calendar year in 2017 or 2018 They are going to grandfather in some age groups
Nice job by the small sided teams that graduated to big fields at the STA tournament. They certainly held up very well on their own, and both went to a final.
No Little League goes by May 1, for 9 - 18 year olds. Calendar year for 4-8 year olds. Sorry they do it right! helps kids more likely play together in the same grade. http://www.littleleague.org/Assets/forms_pubs/2015/Age-Chart-Baseball-Revised.pdf
Does anyone know anything about the u13 MFA pre ecnl team? I see they have a team, a decent size roster and 5 coaches listed Why are they in the top bracket with such little playing history. Am I missing something?
The majority of the Matchfit team was Holmdel/NJX players I'm sure they probably pulled a few players from club their affiliations or spring tryouts. You can compare the NJX Roster on GS to the Pre-ECNL roster on ECNL's website. They are top bracket because of the MF Club history and ECNL status it seems like it carries a long way. More and more top players will flock to ECNL which I wish wasn't so specific club restricted as there are many teams or players that can not endure the travel expenses they expect when you play for those clubs.
Anyone notice in Gotsoccer many of the clubs are renaming their teams with the abbreviation ending of '03. Take a look! I a few or less '02 ending now. I guess the identification process of calendar year is starting and coaches and clubs want parents to know what team their daughter would actually fall in line with.
Feel bad for the 03' they will be playing with many girls not as skilled with them, they will get frustrated very easily. The 02' will have to work harder.
1227 thanks for the insight. Funny thing is majority of the '02 abbreviation endings are NJ teams. lol Those teams/clubs better get there act together. I also agree the 03's if pulled back will become frustrated playing a year down but it will catch up. As for the 02's they are in the hardest spot as they will be competing with currently U14 players this fall. I think someone mentioned it before it's a ripple affect for every age.
My daughter is an 03' so doesn't hurt her, but what about the 02' kids now that are born Oct, Nov and Dec? In the Fall next year they might not have a place to play because all the girls born Jan to Sept 02' will be going to highschool
1:44, that's my only concern. My daughter is a 7th grader born in Oct 02. Next fall 3/4 of the team will be freshmen, so where will my daughter and the other players born late in 02 play?
The girls born 02' (Sept:1st to Dec:31st)@ U13 today are going to get hit the hardest as many of them will not be able to play with girls born 02' (Jan:1st to Aug31st)@U14 today and entering in HS next fall. Think about it those girls are maturing and will be competing in HS next fall vs. girls 2 or 3 years older. Let's face it if you have not already been looking at any U14 teams today we/you are behind the eight ball. As for those '02's headed to HS next fall it will be a decision if playing HS is that important as a freshman if she didn't make the Varsity team. Sorry but the calendar change is going to impact my daughter as she is a Sept. 02 kid and yes I’m worried!
Your best bet is to chill and sit tight. No matter what move you make in the spring of 2016, you're going to get hit with the high school situation (older 2002s go to HS, youngers have to play another season of club in the fall, and then figuring out the coming together for winter spring). If you make a move now, it would only be for the 2016/17 season and then you still have to deal with HS adjustments. I think your best bet it stay together this season , and since these changed arent AT THIS TIME, mandated till 2017, stay together the season there after. Kind of lucky for this age group as thats when all the 2002s and 2003s would be off to high school. And then you just have to figure out your stuff for winter spring. MOst clubs have tryouts for winter/spring right about now (versus the spring for club fall season). It would be foolish to make a move now or next spring because it doesnt address the high school flop.this system is stupid, plain and simple. its not "pull the bandaid and move on",. every single age group always and forever will have this headache when they get to high school season and , grouped by a calendar, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, the oldest in that group go to HS and the younger have to find club. and a year later, those who stayed behind go to hs and th enext group have to find a club.endless.dumb.
9:09,The reason I think this age adjustment makes the HS adjustment more difficult is simple; with the Aug 1st cut-off you have the minority of most teams with older kids going off to HS, which leaves teams in tact for the fall season. With Jan 1st cut-off the majority of the team is older(grade wise) which folds teams for the fall season, leaving the younger lot teamless for half a season. Again, that doesn't happen now but will after the change goes into effect.Silly question: will 2002's be U14 next fall? If so, the 2002's won't be playing a fall season which means less club soccer overall, since U14's have always had a fall season. If that is correct the end result of the age adjustment leads to less training time with club teams AND isn't that contrary to the overall goal of things?
938 based on the posting prior day many teams have already started changing the naming convention on teams, 03's will be back at U13 and the 02's will move on as U14's. I disagree with sitting and waiting it out if you is on the cutting end of the 02's and she is mixed with 03's at club and will be in HS next fall it's time to start at least looking at the age level above in your club or other clubs just to get a picture no need to switch teams but at least monitor the surroundings.
Don't the various leagues have to make an announcement on what they will be doing or "mandating"? This would then trigger clubs to align, wouldn't it? Isn't it possible that only ECNL league will do the conversion and leagues like NPL, EDP will remain as is?
I think it will start with the ECNL league as many higher ups compare it to the Boys Academy league which is already calendar year. It will then trickle down from there. I'm already hearing some clubs will convert Jan.2016 already and move girls and boys around at the older ages.
10:35am. What clubs are these?I'd be shocked if teams changed things around mid season. Like the previous poster said. Most clubs won't change to birth year until they hear from their league or the tournaments they attend.
10:14,My daughter is actually a 7th grade 2002. Looking up isn't going to solve the problem of her team not playing in the fall next year while she's in 8th grade still.
If I've got this right, currently U15-U18 don't play in the fall. After the cut-off change U14-U18 won't play in the fall
making things even more complicated is the fact that all current 2002 7th graders will graduate their junior year in high school as U18 club players, so unless they start U19 age groups they won't have club teams during their senior year in HS
1056 Exactly our point your 02 in 7th grade, as there are many 02's in 8th grade playing at U14 this fall and a few at U13 this fall. When the change occurs you think all those 02's in 8th grade will be playing both HS and club in the fall. If your daughter is playing U13 this fall you better look at your club's U14 roster to see the expected that will be pulled down back to u14 and entering HS.
11:41,I get what you're saying about looking at the older team to see who will be brought down to our team, but the point I am making is that it doesn't matter who they bring down. If 2002's are U14 in the fall, the LEAGUE will not play in the fall because 2/3 of all players at U14 will be freshman. Again, it used to be U15-U18 didn't have a fall club season - now it will be U14-U18 will not have a fall season.
11:41 Understood they make that change that U14's do not play in the fall. So in your scenario you daughter will not be playing next fall when she is in 8th grade, while her classmates born 03 will be at U13. That will hinder her throughout the summer and fall knowing all the girls she used to play will be getting ready to start playing again and she has to wait until the end of Nov. for Spring season.
Don't your kids play middle school soccer? Isn't that a fall season? My daughter is an '03 7th grader and there are girls on her U13 team that will play HS soccer next year anyway that are in 8th grade now. There are issues now and there will be issues later. I don't agree that the '03 grouping will result in lower level of play. There are plenty of U12 teams now that are pretty darn good. The folks concerned about their daughter being the youngest, well someone has to be. How do you think people feel that have kids born jn June or July? they have been the youngest all along. The only people that should be worried are the '03's playing U13 now that are on the tail end of their current team. they may have to look at alternatives if they are bubble players now, because they may not make the U14 team. Also remember that the 01's playing U14 now will have to move up also. It is just a reshuffling, spots will open up on all age groups making room for the realignment. Stop worrying folks, it will all be fine in the end
12:05, yup!The new cut-off date will create a scenario where EVERY year kids born late in the calendar will not have a fall season team to play on during 8th grade, since the majority of their team mates are 9th graders and the league can't field U14 fall teams.
12:13, you're missing the point. Currently, when older kids on teams go off to play HS ball in 9th there are enough players left in 8th grade to field a fall team at U14. The 9th graders simply jump back in with their team in the spring but didn't miss playing the fall because HS replaced that.New system won't leave enough 8th graders on the team to be viable in the fall of U14. I grant your point that U14 8th graders could always play middle school ball - but really?!Your point about relative strength, size etc just getting reshuffled is completely valid. The reshuffling isn't a big deal - just a temporary inconvenience.The POINT is there will be NO U14 fall teams, which will leave about 1/3 of all players on all teams at U14 with nowhere to play.Your daughter being a 7th grade 2003 is great for her, but 1/3 of her "new" 2003 team will be a grade behind her and not have a fall team to play on when your daughter goes of to HS as a freshman. Forget the reshuffling aspect - just think about the lack of playing opportunity....... other than middle school, which is a farse of an alternative.
1213 we are not discussing level of play we are discussing scenario's for 8th to HS players. Why even bring 03's into the subject of not being able to play at the same level they are playing now. I totally agree there are teams at each age that are very good and this age shift will get parents to open their eyes for both age groups below and above this current one. The hardest part calendar year change is towards the HS and Club players not tied into with Grad Year. When or if a child is looking for recruiting how does a coach determine which kid to recruit an Jr. playing HS and Club ball or Sr. that has to wait until Spring to play. What is everyone's thoughts of how this will be handle by collegiate coaches, I think that will ultimately be the best feedback of how those coaches feel about the change. Does anyone have any articles of college coaches discussing the change.
Not every middle school even has sports teams. Our town doesn't, and I know of several others that don't. and even if it did, the level of play will be several notches below that of which these kids are used to. Could do more harm than good.
The clubs will figure it out, even if it's just a practice team for fall at some clubs.The clubs are all scrambling to figure this out, it's a lot of work for them and they don't like it either, but have to deal.
If there is enough concern, how would a letter or petition work? If you look at the reasoning placed behind the intiative, there is little to back the change and certainly no plan. Some clubs will not be affected as much, they have enough of a player pool to adjust, other clubs not so much. The right thing to do is to introduce it at the U7/U8 level. This would have least disruption to all current youth soccer participants across the country and would not interfere with the development or status of US Soccer on the international level, as our leaders would like us to believe.
soooooo...... does anyone have a solution to the problem that will be created for 1/3 of all U14 players not having a club team for fall of their 8th grade year?I'll put one out there - play 5v5
I'm just glad I have an 2003 and top on her team. So no worries for me. I think it's all the fall baby parents that had the advantage for so long and now have to deal with a new age effect.What goes around - comes around...
1:29, that's a very flip comment. We are not talking about a shuffling issue here. Though flip in tone I would agree with your statement, if that's all that were at stake. We are discussing the complete lack of a team to play on for a fall season..... for 1/3 of all girls that will ever play u14.... every year!
1:29 Again this has nothing to do with 03's or 02's it has to do with the scenarios' of 8th/HS and Sr. year. And if you think you'll be happy being on the top end of a team wait to you see the level of play your experience vs. playing with the top/mid level 02's.
That is your issue, not mine. I'm all good with the change. Move on.
7:55pm. What a petty comment. If you're good with the change, fine, good for you. Others are going to be put in an impossible situation. These are players who will be on your birth year team i may add. How do you think those players will be developing whilst your daughter is playing HS? Their lack of development due to not having a team will have a knock on affect for your team. Think a bit more before making such petty comments. The only alternative is by having a birth year team with all players born Jan to July! Cutting out 5 months of potential players.Ludicrous idea to change the system to birth year, it's going to cause far more problems than it's going to solve.
Parents you do know not every state plays high school soccer in the fall. Many play in the spring like Delaware down to Virginia etc. so this age change may not impact them as much. Can't always look with your areas.
Then in those states the 1/3 of players still in 8th grade won't have a team in the spring of their U14 season
Yup all those 02's in 7th grade will not be playing club ball next Fall! I'm sure clubs will find a way to keep them active.
I feel like I live on planet stupidity and the leaders of this strange world are those in charge of US Soccer who sit behind their desks staring out onto the training fields where Carli Loyd and Rampino and all the other WC champions trot about, all the while patting themselves on the back proclaiming all they've done for the sport and that whatever they decide must be great for soccer. The countless midlevel and lower rec-type kids who love the sport for exercise and being with their friends really have no place in their world.Lastly, and this has been brought up a dozen times and i have to read an answer, let alone a good one. WHAT EXACTLY iS THE PERCEIVED VALUE OF THIS initiative. ? What do the clueless gurus believe this will provide? please dont tell me its that old kids play with older kids because well, a 1 year gap is a 1 year gap wherever it starts and ends. Has to be something far more involved than that to disrupt the system. Clue me in so i can have some faith that the powers ruling the US Soccer universe actually have a brain on their shoulders.
You will just have to live with the disappointment. There is no value to this. Our leaders are dull pencils.
1057 Agreed: We are in the U.S. why not make a voting process by leagues and tournament chairmens. versus a dictatorship.
My guess; someone very important within the ranks of US Soccer just had a set of triplet girls born this past summer late in July.
10:57.I suspect it is because the rest of the world is on a calendar year including the National team. and ODP. this just makes it consistent with FIFA and rest of the planet. Youth soccer was the one hold out and they just said enough get on board. Soon - next year or two, no one will give it a second thought.
10:55pm. Incorrect. Most of Europe is not on calendar year in terms of grouping players. Better get your facts checked before posting things you clearly have no idea about. If you have proof i'm wrong then i'd love to see it but i'm guessing you are just stating incorrect facts in the hope that people believe what you are saying. Clubs in England, Spain, France, Italy, Germany etc. all still divide their teams by U13 or U17 for example. They do not state 02s or 98s only.
How many girls do these HS teams take? Not every kid will make the HS team. Our SD pulls kids from 3 clubs with each having 2 teams each per age group. Our club sends kids to two hs's for the most part (80% pub, 20% private). There are more kids than roster spots. Not only do these girls have to compete with each other for the HS spots they are also competing with the girls 1. 2 and 3 grades above them. Also, getting lost in this conversation is the fact that this is being done for the boys benefit where the top players don't even play HS soccer and the academies run on two year cycles. We can also rest easy knowing if there is $$$$ to be spent someone will have a place for us to spend it. Yes, I have a Nov birthday kid!
1212 true the state their teams U13, U17 etc... but they do roster by calendar year. The FA was last to switch but did this a few years back when the men failed to qualify for a major.
Predictions for FC Stars Cup?
MF team plays better than people on here have predicted.
PDA wins top 2 brackets. MF wins 0 games scores 2 goals.
4:40 So far, your prediction is holding true!!
Is FC Stars going to give out Semi-finalist points or just finalist and champions?
Some if the MF girls do not belong on the field.
super inappropriate. try to stay class people, its just youth soccer and these are all hardworking passionate soccer player. some maybe be better than others, but they all love the game. stay positive. Some if the MF girls do not belong on the field. September 6, 2015 at 8:18 PM
12:12 you should check the rest of the planet.
939, it's happening next year, no turning back. Move on and deal with it.
Age change is unlikely to happpen next year. Not final, but looking that way.
Ecnl is moving this direction next year, our doc has already confirmed this with us. It will help teams like WC who's team needs a change in direction, coming from one within. Congrats to the nj/ny teams, everyone played great. The only team I saw that was playing lights out, was Stars, watched them beat Yankee 4 to 0 and it could have been 6 or more. I'm sure rage and PDA had their hands full. Sdfc looked strong too, watched half their game against Albertson. Sta, shore, crew, Maximus, Galaxy and rage all played well from the stats. Even wc and MF didn't get blown out, although in a easier bracket. Both MF and wc will be wide open next year for ecnl takers, both 2003 and 2002. Have fun this season, it will all be different next year. All the names and faces we have seen for years will all be mixed up. We have a strong pool of players, question is who is staying 2003? , that will be the fun group.
As mentioned before which i agree with, until tournaments and leagues officially announce anything then it makes no sense to be making decisions just yet. The Fall has barely begun, lots can change.
Stop the nonsense, it's happening and every club, league and tournament head are making the change. I run a town league and we are already dealing with it. I wish it wasn't happening, pain in the a$$, but it is for real.
Definitely happening, but there will be some compromises. Also, not certain change will happen 2016. May be pushed to 2017.
I have spoke to many club leaders, everyone is making change asap.
9:25pm. How have you spoke to many club leaders? Name the clubs. I'm sure we would all like to know who they are. I've not heard a single club announce publicly what their plan is. If these clubs are telling you then i presume they are being open about it so please, go ahead, tell us.
Look at all the ecnl teams and In the npl division, change already happening. every team is listed under 02 ecnl team.But then again, the change may never happen because there is a chance someone on this board gets a petition together and they change their minds.
1247pm What's a petition going to do! Give feedback by player parent on the who complaints. Clubs will tell those parents to move on or just find another team. It's happening as someone mentioned prior to your post the naming convention on teams have already started. It will go both ways benefit some and hurt others. Personally this will benefit the ECNL/NPL Clubs playing in the ECNL/Northeast NPL leagues as many players looking for change will look to these clubs 1st next year. We are going to see abundance of player movement, and sideline chatter that will cause a huge disruption this fall/spring season. Wish it wasn't happening but based on conversations and league meetings we cannot stop it.
I was being sarcastic about the petition, someone mentioned prior and I believe the same person who just can't accept this change is happening. All good - If you don't have a fall 2002...
ECNL teams think soccer simply revolves around them but there are thousands and thousands of youth soccer teams all throughout this country, with kids who might be the next Mia Hamm, who think this change blows chunks. And it does. not upon implementation but upon high school entry. Maybe the next change is that ECNL girls wont be allowed to play High school, like academy boys. Then we'll hear those ECNL parents who have kids enjoying high school crying and moaning. For those who say accept it and just move on, I say stop acting like sheep.
ECNL has nothing to do with this change. This is US Soccer - not ECNL. I know that everyone likes to pin everything on ECNL. They may be the first to change, but they are not driving this bus. It creates chaos for their teams and clubs as well. ECNL and NPL will just be able to absorb it better given their relative size and having consistent teams across age groups will allow these two types of clubs to move players around a little more easily. But there will still be pain, unhappy girls and unhappy parents.
Are you kidding me 530? Stop crying and move on, you are reaching now by talking shit about ecnl parents and the org that has zero to do with it. You are a freak. Go to the u14 blog, that's where you will end up. every other club is moving to because they have to.
5:30 - look on the bright side, your daughter will get stronger playing against girls her own age.
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