I miss Jackson!
I think that would be awesome if my daughter could play against a team with players on the roster from other states. If they're more challenging, then better for soccer developing and a better soccer game!! =P Can NJ teams only card players that live in NJ for NJYS State Cup? And I miss Jackson too! Jackson and NJ Rush Hamilton are close in terms off location. Their coaches should have got together and combined their top players, who are the most skilled overall, and just become one big SUPERTEAM. Then continue with the rest of the players on a '2nd team' at the top level as well, and continue to get them even better, with rotating practice locations for both teams, but under the RUSH name.
Cherry hill should be embarrassed to be in the final, such a dirty fouling team. One girl out with concussion from NJX and one CH girl clearly elbowed another NJX player in the face but ref only gave a yellow.They have no skills or passes just pushing and kicking. Good luck Hamilton Rush in the final, so much the better team.
Stop crying you are embarrassing your self.
Anyone who watched the CH / Holmdel game knows that the concussion had nothing to do with any CH player. An unfortunate accident completely unprovoked. Congrats to both teams and good luck tomorrow!
The elbow to the face was an accident too right? Embarrassing.
You are obviously a Holmdel parent and completely biased - posting before scores are even posted makes it clear. Both teams fought hard, why can't you just leave it at that?
A no skil tm makes it to the final of the 11 v 11 state cup? How does that happen?
Anyone have the scores from today? From the comments above I see CH won. How about the other gm?And on the 8v8 side ? I assume Rage vs Max final?
1. Who cares about 8v8??? 2. CH is a terribly coached bunch of assassins.
NJX will always have an excuse - never fails.. They can't win anything, ever.- very sad...
Feeling bad for NJ Rush. I think they were hoping to play against NJX. CH is a dirty playing team and they have had t.o deal with that team since their younger years in South Jersey soccer. But the real question is, Who is this Haddonfield team?! Playing just about equal to NJ Rush (an apparent TOP team)? Props to them. I guess that answers parents questions about rankings. Don't pay attention to rankings! Do what's BEST for your child's development of the game.
I heard NJ Rush have got every player football pads and helmets for today's final against CH.
Any information on Maximus red for today's game?
Rush won 1-0. Nice clean game on both sides.
Curious, where did all the new maximus players come from, who played this weekend? The PDA girl has been there all along. Are the new bigs from WC?
2:17pm. NJYS State Cup rosters are locked in the first few weeks of Sep. So i doubt any team has "new" players added, such as Maximus.
What was the score of the Rage vs. Maximus game?
@228 rosters are not locked until championship pick. check the earlier post
I heard it was Rage Renegades 5 - FC Maximus 1
Let's see if US Club Spring State Cup puts together an 8v8 Bracket. Does anyone think they will?Congrats NJ RUSH well deserved. 11v11 is wide open couple of weeks ago SDFC was on a role now NJ RUSH. Nice to see the competition in NJ.
US CLub had a 8v8 last Spring for U12G, why wouldn't they have it this upcoming Spring? I believe STA won it.Regardless, the U13 Fall-2015 will be that much more competitive with some teams like Rage and Maximus coming over to the 11v11 side.
Yes and STA U13 are doing well right now even though they stayed 8v8 through u12.
Exactly..it probably helped them in the long run..always good to get better in short space. There is plenty of soccer ahead at the 11v11 level. Not saying 11v11 is bad at u12 because it isn't but 8v8 certainly isn't either.
What are you guys talking about STA U13 is still hiding. All those GS points are from 8v8. Look it up they didn't even enter this Fall's NJ State Cup u13 they were in the National Championship Series u13 and didn't even make it to the finals so hiding from the strong teams didn't help much.
Does anyone know if NJ Rush continues play in the region? I don't know how it works.
1:26pm. What are you talking about? STA 13s made Semi Final and lost to NJ Wildcats who ended up winning SC.
U13's had two Brackets, two differennt scenerios.National Championship Series - NJ Wildcats vs. NJ CrushNJ State Cup - NJ RUSH vs Medford SCMy opinion there should onlt be one State Cup winner at U13 & U14. What's the point of doing two different scenerios.
Agreed 2:37pm. National Championship Series is the one that takes you to Regionals. NJ State Cup is geared towards teams who aren't good enough to compete regionally. Seems pointless to me but that's NJYS for you
It kind of is a money grabber, because winning njys state championship series at U12 is mandatory for teams to have to travel to regionals. and even for finalists...if you don't go the team gets fined $3000.00 dollars. And if they win, then they go nowhere at this age group. It doesn't matter until they're older because girls are still developing at this age and everything changes in the next couple years. You'll see.
Where do see a team get's fined $3000. Please provide back up.
http://www.njyouthsoccer.com/clubsite/?p=4815(#4: A fine of up to $3000.00 will be imposed on any team withdrawing from regional competition. For questions regarding regional competition, contact the NJYS office or Games Commissioner.)In their Q/A Section:Q. We won the NJYS National Championship for our age group. Do we have to go to Regionals A. NJYS expects its championship teams to go to Regionals. If, for unforeseen reason you cannot go, you must inform the NJYS Games Commissioner as soon as possible. There are significant fines if you withdraw late. There is a lot of information your team must put online to be able to participate in Regionals. Make sure you meet the deadlines published by the RegionIt also states: NJYS Championship winners (and selected 2nd teams) in the appropriate age groups are required to participate in the Regional and National Championships. The selected 2nd teams are based on the award of wildcard entries by the Region I Championship Committee or the Region I Premier League Competition. U12 and U13 don't advance past regionals. They don't advance to Nationals until starting at age U14. So anyway, looks like Cherry Hill could have a chance to go..haha.
@ 1:26Where do you get your info? Totally false
Why is there even talk about 13s on this U12 blog?
11:51am - Thanks for the copied info. Can someone please show us how U13 PDA Storm did at Regionals last fall when they were U12. If this is truly what happens after winning NJ National Sate Cup. I don't see a regional bracket where the champion and finalist played neighboring states in a regional bracket.Again what you see and what is said can defer. If this is what happen I would to see what state won Regionals last Fall.
Info RE PDA Storm at USYS Region 1Championship. They were finalists.http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=38588&GroupID=354580&Gender=Girls&Age=12
Let's get back to u12 please. Any update from today? Assume sdfc beats nix, just noticed they were beat by gfa, wow that's not good.
NJ Rush Team Tops in the Nation!On the heels of an outstanding performance in the NJ State Cup Championships, New Jersey Rush teams climb the charts in National Rankings. New Jersey Rush had an outstanding showing at the NJ State Cup Championships last weekend. The U12 ’02 Girls and U12 ’02 Boys won their respective US Youth Soccer National Championship Series State Cups. In all, 6 New Jersey Rush teams entered the weekend as Semi-Finalists, 5 teams advanced to the Finals and 2 were crowned Champions. After winning the U12G USYS NCS NJ State Cup Championship, the New Jersey Rush ’02 Girls received the additional honor of being ranked as the #1 U12 Team in the country by GotSoccer, the number one ranking organization for youth soccer in the USA. New Jersey Rush has found tremendous success in other age groups too with 9 teams U11-U18 currently ranked in the top 100 in the USA. Team Coach GotSoccer National Ranking Championships ’03 Girls Lisa Pittaro 42 ’02 Girls Christopher Pettit 1 NCS NJ State Champion ’02 Boys David Barbour 42 NCS NJ State Champion ’00 Girls NPL Darron Brown 29 ’99 Girls Blue Ronald Celestin 95 ’98 Girls NPL Greg Ruttler 61 NCS NJ State Champion ’97 Girls NPL David Barbour 5 NCS NJ State Champion USCS NJ State Champion ’96 Girls NPL Jeff Zoyac 38 USCS NJ State Champion ’96 Girls Blue Martin Wood 19 New Jersey Rush is a US Club Soccer National Premier League club and is becoming one of the top ranked clubs in the Region. For more information about NJ Rush, please visit our website at http://www.njrush.com or email our Director of Coaching, David Barbour at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Ok NJ Rush Hamilton U12 parent, congrats. We're happy that the rankings mean so much to you. Now are your players truly skilled or have the core just been together so long since they were little, so they have that chemistry and just know where they have to put the ball. I bet they start losing their top players in the next couple years, just like all the other teams.
Good question...Did sdfc win? I would think they would both post quickly, neither team has won lately. Too funny with rush post...they win a weak state cup and know they are world champs. When I looked at their got soccer, wasn't very impressive, a lot of edp points and poor tournament showings including PDA spring cup b bracket.
PDA south takes down sjeb , this team is going in wrong direction.
People need to stop focusing on the wins/losses and rankings. Remember, U12 wasn't even a ranked age before. It's so ridiculous. Worry more about your child's development.
Shut up you loser. You are probably the first to post when you win, but I'm sure your team lost today. .
U13 will be an interesting year.
We're talking about 12 year olds-will we ever give them credit for their hard work or just keep coming up with excuses for why they win and your team loses??
What? You sound like the njx mom? Another tough day?
Does anyone know why NJYS has their NCS so early compared to Eastern PA and NY East not having it until Spring?
Not sure why. But looks like most states haven't participated in their state cup. So I guess the 'rankings' will change yet again at the end of next season. Quick, all NPL teams need to rack up those points to stay ahead, no matter which tournament they do to get them ranked. It does make sense I guess, if they want to attract the players who don't quite make the cut to play ECNL but who are good enough to compete with the top NPL teams.
Looks like those few key players on NJX need to find a new home.
MF has its hands full - both teams are very weak - combining won't even help much. NJX has mostly been talk - they are good for a challenging game - but can't win anything. They won't be selected as pre ecnl - top girls wil have to change - but not a great option for them.
Does PDA Galaxy have a pre-ECNL u12 team? is it PDA Galaxy or do they have a seperate team?
With all the success mentioned above it sounds like Rush will be challenging PDA in the near future for Academy superiority. Finally an alternative to the over-priced, stale program we've all been forced to turn to.
In 2 short years the top 2 teams in the state will be galaxy in the north and nova in the south.I've seen this movie before,I know how it ends.
MF is an ECNL club for a reason. Remember, w/ US Club, players can move like fluid around their teams. When it comes time for ECNL training/play, top players from each MF team probably would start training at a Central location along with other top players from top NPL teams who are strong enough and skilled enough to play ECNL and looking to go that route. For people to understand it more, look up other ECNL clubs in other states, and how they form their teams. The strongest players combine to create teams and/or add players to their top team in their club, and that team would be their ECNL team. Why do you think Jackson probably broke up. Just bc PDA Shore is not 'winning' games against other teams that have been together forever doesn't mean those parents made a bad move. They did it for their child's development and maybe in hopes of their child in another year in a half being one of the stronger players that may have the chance to participate in the ECNL. Maybe by u13/u14 a child is not ready to play ECNL, but by u15, they are amazing and earn their spot. The child has to want it, not the parent. The child is the one who has to love this sport bad enough to better and better themselves. If not ECNL, NPL is the next level down which is still competitive. It all depends on what the child wants and what the parent is willing to do for that child if you think they have what it takes.
2:39 - Still not adding spaces after your pronunciation and drinking the PDA Kool-Aid Joe T!!!
2:39pm. What girls age group does PDA dominate with both their North and South teams? I must have missed that movie.Naive to think that other teams won't be able to develop their players to compete with PDA. All of PDAs 12s teams have lost games this season. And many to teams who you would not have thought possible. The player pool at this age is so big that other teams will always be competitive with the likes of PDA.
PDA Galaxy will definitely be one of the top teams. But PDA South, no way, not good enough, they just don't have the talent. If you're going to play for PDA, it'd have to be for Galaxy, if not stay where your at! Sorry Joe T, PDA South will not be one of the top teams
based on recruiting interest, I think so. ;)
Everyone on this U12 blog should be happy for NJ RUSH, SDFC, PDA, SJEB, RAGE, Cherry Hill, FC Maximus. There's 8 teams ranked in the top 25 and overall this prevents teams from traveling as far to find competition until U14+. We have several good teams in our area that win/lose on any given Sat/Sun. With this many options in the future, your daughter doesn't necessarily have go to an ECNL team. Will it matter anyway ECNL, NPL with this many teams ranked this high in GotSoccer, outside regional teams will want to flock to this area to come play these clubs to gain points. Even though Gotsoccer is used for ranking that nobody should follow yet but it does have it's benefits later down the line in matching correct teams up in tournaments and leagues. Isn't that all we want is to see our daughter play in top level brackets in top level tournaments and leagues.
"Based on recruiting". Who's recruiting 12 year olds. And who's really gonna go to a mediocre pda south team and pay all that money? Just because people are frustrated and are saying their coming, doesn't mean they will. Trust me, I've seen it a million times, no one's coming
@ 7:22, I'm pretty sure that they meant in the future, not now. and messed up to say a developing team is 'mediocre' when they are playing probably in the same division as your child's team, whether it be north, central, south, they're in the 1st division and holding their own. again, it's about them developing and learning the game and skills and they have a really good trainer.
@7:22, I want you to remember this conversation in a couple of years. I've seen this a million times as well when people are scrambling at U15 to get on a club with notable college commits, not low level D1'S and D3's. You can only lie to people for so long before you are exposed. Anyone who spends north of $2000 a year on soccer has hopes of their child playing in college. Let's be honest....after all it is the best policy.
Does anyone know how Jag's league is doing? Haven't heard much about them anymore since the NPL/EDP league expanded.
are you kidding me? Semifinalist in 8 v 8 - who are only semi-finalists because they were not enough teams in the cup race, and so it started as semi-finalists, were given cup points on Got Soccer? simply because these teams cant field a full-sided team, they are able to claim they are a cup semi-finalist? what a joke...
11:14am Yes agreed that is a big laugh in the soccer community. Just shows everyone how incorrect GS points can be. There should be minimum amount of teams before creating a bracket for state cup.
That is hilarious! Its like having only small and medium sizes available, and no large. You need a large size to have a medium. AND you need to have bracket rounds of play to have semi-finals!
see people - - follow your gut - - not got soccer points.
I agree it is a little corny having a state cup going straight to semis, but some teams - NJCRUSH, RENEGADES, MAXIMUS are no slouch teams
Agreed they are no slouch teams but the comment that states they don't have enough players to field full sided doesn't make sense. A few of those teams had 2 teams playing in the 8v8 state cup. So they are working on development in the small sided 8v8game vs. combining that's just a different path. Remember many other states are still 8v8 at U12. Look at the upcoming Bethesda Tournament look how many brackets are 8v8 vs. 11v11.
Yes! That's true, I forgot about that. Most states are still 8v8 at U12. Another reason not to follow GS points and take it so seriously. 'Top' teams will change in the next yr or two. And remember, top soccer clubs in the US will field their top team ECNL and their 2nd team below them NPL. ECNL teams only play against other ECNL teams in tournaments and in a National Championship. This is to ensure that the teams are getting to play against the highest elite athletes in the country for a more competitive game thus increasing a player's overall skill and ability to play their best soccer. People that hate on it, I don't understand. It's the parent and child's choice if their child is good enough or has the potential to reach a very high level of play.
There are some very good teams playing 8v8. Agreed. But one club with two teams in 8v8. Is only looking to make money. No other reason
How could it be to make more money? Makes no sense. It'd be cheaper for the club to have one team w/ all the players combined. Less cost for tournaments, ect... It's for their development. More playing time for all girls, more touches on the ball, and they probably have both teams training with eachother. Makes total sense.
It's like a pyramid. Just keep addingTwo teams = more tuition. There's only one coach. Probably only one practice time bc their space is limited. Tournaments most pay for as they go. So it's like having a roster of 30 on one team, no extra expense, bc players pick those up, just more tuition. With nowhere to go except profit. (I'm sorry these are all non-profits right) I mean salaries (oh wait there's only one coach)So you tell me. Where is the extra tuition going?
4:12pm right on the money same coached for both 8v8 teams. Figure 22+ girls roster for both teams at $2k each $44k. What a great part time job.
Have to be talking about Copa. They were 1 team last year and 11v11. This year 2 teams 8v8. Would sure like to know how they are measuring development because it can't be by W-L last year or this year. Waaayyyy too many losses to claim any type of development.
Does W-L equal development. Maybe they are working on individual development.
Does W-L equal development. Maybe they are working on individual development.
I'm curious if NJ Rush really believes they are #1 in the country? They posted the accolades. Do they really believe it? It's nice they won State Cup this fall, but can they sent they had to win just 1 challenging game against Cherry Hill? Haddonfield lost on a goalie muff. The chest pounding is comical.
How did they do in spring state cup?
NJ Rush is even with all the top teams in the Region. They are definitely not best in the country. All the top teams can all win or lose any given day. NJ Rush in this past EDP tournament, 2nd week in October, showed that.. yes, they are equal level teams to the others. They tied TSF, they lost to Dix Hill Destroyers (NYE) & tied SJEB. But all in all, the kids are excited probably about their rankings (maybe more so the parents, lol), and about their state cup win, so let them enjoy! They are only 11 and 12 year old little girls for goodness sake. MANY teams don't even partake in the whole GS point system, hence, if your daughter is an exceptional player, and you as the parent would know that or not, should know what to do to help your child reach her potential. And example of not paying attention to rankings...if you do your research, you'll see many teams not even ranked in the top 25, let alone 50, that beat out teams 'ranked' in the top 5. Just saying.
Agreed let NJ Rush enjoy the Moment. They are 11-12 year's old and just like playing and having fun doing so. Don't take this away from any team or player. Again rankings are rankings they can change month to month does anyone even have a history since August 1st on what the landscape look like month to month. I think there were different top 5 teams every month. GS is good to help tournaments bracket teams accordingly. No tournament director wants a coach barking up his ear asking to play top bracket if they haven't proven themselves yet and this is what GS helps them do.
Good weekend for the NJX/MFA Sol. 1-1 cherry Hill and 1-0 over Hamilton.
Is tying cherry hill really a good weekend or were you just trying to tell everyone you beat the rush? typical njx post
Very sad comment cherry Hill parent!
Why would you think the comment would be from a CH parent? And, why would it be a surprise that NJX tied CH and beat Hamilton (Rush)? Rush and CH would have been tied in the state final if it weren't for an unfortunate hand ball which lead to a penalty shot. But, those things happen. These are all top teams. They'll win/lose on any given day to each other. And if an NJX parent is posting the scores, who cares, that is what the blog is for. And we're ALL curious. That's why this blog even exists.
Where do you go to see scores n standings for EDP - U12. I only see standings/scores for U13 and up? I must not be going to the correct location in NPL.
Got Soccer actually has NJ Rush listed as 1st in the EDP South's 1st Division when they should actually be 2nd and West Chester should be 1st.
So true 11:49, Cherry Hill is so close to these other premier teams. Rumor is some of their parents desire a paid coach for new perspective and ability to take them to that next level.
West Chester is now currently listed as being in first place in EDP South first division. However, if Hamilton beats FC Virginia as expected, they will win first in the division.
@3:54 Do you happen to know why the guest players that CH had for state cup wouldn't just play with CH year round? That's an even better team if they would just do that.
I hear NJX/sol sent some guest players to a game on Sunday. Are they breaking up?
@ 4:10 not sure why but it wouldn't hurt to show them and others our commitment to improving by making a few changes. Might help recruit others also.
Just to confirm I am a PDA parent it was a scrimmage and the Homdel team needed a few girls because a few were on vacation.
Teams working together, unacceptable!! Don't the girls know this has to be cut-throat and mean. I guess not, the girls actually like each other it's the nutso parents who create drama. Everyone should be happy for each other and encourage one another's success in this great game.
Agree...some parents are nutso. And to be honest, rubs off on certain children who don't make the game of soccer fun to others.
Hamilton could easily lose to Virginia if they got beat by njx
Mind boggling how many girls at this age group play for multiple club teams at the same time. It certainly takes away from any team unity, and cheapens any title these teams "win" with the guest players. Curious to know - parents are you shopping your kids around like free agents? Anyone offering free tuition? Are they keeping up with school work, or do you think they may be jumping straight ftom high school to national team to pro?
Hamilton,Cherry Hill and NJX are very comparable.
Virginia will Def. beat Hamilton and probably pretty bad.
At this age individual development from all area of the game are much bigger than W & Ls......sad some parents can't see that.
@10:11 am - Don't be a hater. Guest playing just enables some girls more opportunity to better themselves and give them a different playing environment. Most high level teams keep their girls in the same positions which doesn't allow those girls to be overall great players and be able to jump into any position and feel comfortable. My guess, if you change players around on some of these teams, they wouldn't be the same. I can't believe what such negativity is swarming around with some of these parents. It's like parents are getting jealous about other people's children. I just don't get it.
@11:39 am EXACTLY!!! My child told me she wants to play for a top D1 soccer college or she doesn't want to play college soccer. Now who's job is that to allow for multiple opportunities for her individual development in the game? MINE, as her parent. Every decision I've made regarding different opportunities for her development have been well thought out. I've also had several people give me advice regarding my child, which has led to those decisions.
@10:11 my guess is you lost to one of these teams. One player does not make an entire time. @11:39 is on the money. Guest playing allows these players to develop and challenges the players on the guest team to step up their level of play. If your team is competitive, win-loss does not count. If your team can not compete with these teams, i.e. just hold your own, then your team has a lot of work to do. do not blame the one guest that showed up, she just played well.
There were roughly 370,000 high school girls playing soccer in 2013.Roughly 36,500 played college soccer (NCAA I-III, NAIA, NJCAA, other divisions), which is nearly 10%).8817 played D1 (nearly 2.4%).Good luck.
wow, really? Those are some statistics. Not only does the child have to be a soccer stand out, but has to have great grades as well along with a positive attitude I'm sure.
I am certainly not a hater but a realist. Having gone through the "elite soccer" process with older children, I am blessed with hindsight now and wiser for it. ROFL at the person who wrote that their 11 year old child "kniws now that she wants to play D1 soccer or not at all".. Really? Where is the parenting in this situation? It's parenting ego on display, not parenting skills.Do us all a favor and go sit through a College Night presentation and hear real life stories about where and how girls are playing soccer at which types of schools. I am sure the egomaniacs on this blog will be completely unaware that most ECNL sophs and juniors are going to visit schools like Tufts, Dartmouth, Bucknell, NYU etc and not Kentucky, Stanford, Texas or Rutgers. There are very real reasons for this, reasons I am not going to list here, just do your child a favor and pull your head out of the stars, and be a parent. Try something different besides ferrying them a different tournament to rack up trophies every single weekend. You will be glad you did, 5 years from now.
Grades are the most important. If your child isn't getting all A's and doesn't excel on sats then d 1 is out of the question. Remember there is someone out there as good.
Every child has different dreams and aspirations. Nothing wrong in leading your children in the direction where they may be able to fulfill them. When I was a child I had different dreams and aspirations, and I fulfilled them. I will support each one of my children in whatever they aspire to do. And again, stop hating. Every child is different and every top college soccer athlete will have totally different stories in how they made it to where they are.
look to move to a edp team. four spring from mosa where do I see middle town red team record in edp?
4:47pm - Unless there is roster space available most teams do not add a player in the spring at the high bracketed EDP teams. Look for the 2nd division teams or Maps Elite sections. Middle Town SC has a team in Maps Elite.Good Luck - Link belowhttp://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=38983&Gender=Girls&Age=12
To all parents, has anyone's child experienced issues between other teammates? And if so, what do you recommend?
1:25 at this age it is in the best interest for the parents on both sides to intervene and help fix the situation. @14/15 age they will need to sort out their own differences to help them mature and grow into better players.
What happened to the best team in country? can you say blow out. Won't hear from them for a while on this blog. This is what is wrong with got soccer points.
They're not the best team in the country and def agree with not going by GS points which some parents take a little to seriously. But, you really just don't know any team's circumstances in any tournament/and or game. That goes for any team.
lmfao gfa losing to rec team Monmouth coast back to the drawing board with the best kick ball team money can buy seriously watched game 8 hours a week practice and that's what you put on field thank god I didn't put up the cash tsf was smart pulling away those girls are way off
What is gfa?
gfa equals girls for another sport
International Girls Futbol Academy. And they are on the same level as Monmouth Coast. They are both one level below the highest level teams, aren't they? Why would that pretty even score/close game be a surprise?
7 pm not nice ex player you still have friends on gfa grow up,and Monmouth coast you are not on same level bad day.
they really are on same level. there are just some teams who should be in a totally lower flight. it's not fair for teams who play smart, skilled excellent soccer to have no other higher flight to play in against teams that they could lose to. how do these teams get better? hence, this is where ecnl comes into play.
Igfa will be the top team in a couple of years, you'll see
Wish you well, but thats not happening. The north needs to merge a few teams or at least players. Way to many half decent teams. WC can't even compete. This age group dominated by central nj...... All the way south. I can't think of one really decent team in the north? Who am I missing?
7:47pm. You'd be surprised at what happens over a few years. No need to merge teams. We haven't got a powerhouse in NJ, a group of 10 or so teams can beat each other on any given day. And the older they get the more the playing field evens out amongst the top few.
7 pm we are greatful you didn't put up the cash. It's ok. Now you do not have to worry about GFA and can focus on your fantastic team. Wish you the best.( by the way TSF is partner with GFA , they didn't oull off anything, but I guess you want to create trouble so its ok)
@1:25 address it with the coach
"lmfao gfa losing to rec team Monmouth coast back to the drawing board with the best kick ball team money can buy seriously watched game 8 hours a week practice and that's what you put on field thank god I didn't put up the cash tsf was smart pulling away those girls are way off"Maybe you can use some of the money you saved to take a remedial English class. Preferably one that focuses on punctuation, grammar and usage.
@ "7:47pm. You'd be surprised at what happens over a few years. No need to merge teams. We haven't got a powerhouse in NJ, a group of 10 or so teams can beat each other on any given day. And the older they get the more the playing field evens out amongst the top few."What does usually happen in Jersey soccer? I don't understand why other states seem to have these real powerhouse teams that will totally outplay our Jersey teams at this age.
The only team at U12 who seems heads and shoulders above everyone else is Cincy Utd. And that is a huge club with good coaching from the very young ages upwards. So my guess is that they have been developing players who are on that team from when they were 6-7-8 years old. Rather than clubs like PDA who just take the better players and don't develop them. I could be wrong but to have a quality team at 12 they must have been together a while and be very proficient in the fundamentals from a young age.I'm eagerly awaiting the moderator deleting my post as i bad mouthed PDA. Heaven forbid someone can express an opinion on a blog.
Has PDA Galaxy ever played this Cincy team? And this team isn't going to be ecnl right? I'm guessing this team will be National Champions many times all the way up to u18/u19.
Yes, they will be national champions for years to come, as long as the two girls up front stay a foot above the rest for next five years. These girls are way above the rest in maturity. They are huge and I believe would kill PDA too at this age, not to put down PDA like you are trying to do.The Cincy team is good, but all because of these two for now, time will tell. This team will beat any u13 team in nation as well, I was blown away by them this weekend, sucks to play against.
Galaxy played them at Eclipse at the end of summer/beginning of fall and lost 2-0. The Cincy girls are skilled technically as well as athletic. Cincy United was formed from a number of Cincy area soccer clubs so no they did not grow their players from birth. But good for them as they have come out of nowhere to being a great team at this age and can rival OP and OE.
Edp league in the spring. Hopefully they take the top teams and merge the central and south, north is weak.What about NJX at u13? Looks like they will be NPL or second MF team. As they drop as a team - MF team getting better.
I was talking to one of the Cincy United parents and he said they are all from a 35 minute radius, train 3 times a week, and majority of the team has been developed by the club since day 1 by the same coach.
A lot of those teams in the Ohio area are developed and mature as a team, they still pull the best in the area and will be the ones to watch in the near future. But when U14/15 hits the landscape completely changes when girls migrate towards teams and clubs with history of getting there child to another level their child wants to play D1 college vs. playing for a team that chases GS rankings or wins at tournaments. Notice how many U14/15/16 teams in the ECNL league care about GS rankings research it.
@ 9:44 AM That is very very true about the U14 and older teams not caring about GS points. Not only them but even some younger teams as well. Yes, you can easily research it. The teams that will be part of the ecnl aren't even playing against their own age. They don't care about the GS points from being 'champions' at these tournaments right now. They are semi-finalist/finalist at older age groups in tournaments or ranking 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th in leagues playing in older ages. That is what needs to be done for our girls on these top NJ teams. SJEB, RUSH, SDFC, PDA, ect...if teams are 1st/2nd in their EDP 1st division, they should give them the option of playing up in the age above's 1st division.
10:01am Totally agree, this age group in NJ has quality teams and we are very lucky to have this many good teams in one state. Eventually these teams may or may not exist in 2/3 years but at least the dedicated players/parents have something to look for with the teams that do will exist. Cincy and OP Fire are great teams developed from the best in the area at young ages hopefully they stick around in the later years but club history has shown their older teams stop competing because players/parents realize it's not about winning a tournament but giving there child an opportunity to play at a even higher level.
Teams could also stay playing in their age appropriate 1st divisions bc next year the top team will qualify for NPL Regions/Nationals ect... They can see if the EDP will allow those top teams play crossover games with the older age top teams to allow for more challenging play. Someone needs to step up and say something. The coaches of these top teams need to come together and push for slight change to allow for more challenging games for the top teams. The teams that are not as strong playing in these 1st divisions are benefiting but what about the teams that always win or tie? Where are they being challenged to push for their development?
This is a great topic, I totally agree teams need to be challenged. Win/Lose by 1 or 2 goals is what I see a great game with teams developing together. Winning games by 4 or 5 goals is not development at this age. At least re-evaluate the brackets and have EDP have Satellite locations so teams North/Central/South can meet half to play each other.
Very quiet on this blog lately. GS has new rankings any thoughts. Also how will spring shape up do any of you think EDP will shuffle some of the top teams in each bracket to play each other.
I think GS gets to people's heads to much. Look at what Rush did not long ago..went into the blog sites posting their #1 everywhere on GS points and just weeks later it's different. If in another few weeks it changes back does a mass posting go out again? It's crazy at this age, and how can anyone claim to be #1? RAGE FC PREMIER RENEGADES - - Not even playing full sided soccer yet, but get GS points to rank them #1...craziness. It's probably all about trying to attract attention to their clubs to get players interested in trying out for their teams. But would they really go and drop their weaker players if some of these teams are 'town' teams that had a name put on them? I really doubt that they would.
Can't go by Got Soccer. It's used to assist in certain tournament placements. Look at PDA U13 pre-ECNL, in Got Soccer they are ranked '33rd' Nationally, in Top Drawer they are ranked '3rd'. This is just an example.
2:38pm - I totally agree GS is to help assist with tournament and league placement not a true ranking system of the nation. Next year at u13 many will follow the TopDrawer rankings for national levels.
Which leagues/teams are included in Top Drawer rankings?
This site is much better that TopDrawer or gotSoccer - or any that I've seen for truly accessinga teams ranking based on games played:http://usyouthsoccerrankings.com/
3:45 Nice linkage. Thanks for sharing.
Interesting to see Rutgers get bounced in the 2nd round. With all those PDA players, you'd think they would match up better nationally. I guess PDA isn't developing these girls all that well.
Yes, both horrible programs. NJ girls soccer just can't compete. What club are you with? Maybe you guys have it figured out and can save NJ girls soccer. I'm sure with a comment like that your daughter and club have better options.
What an absolutely idiotic comment about Rutgers you clueless clown! You are the single reason what is wrong with youth sports...I can only imagine how pathetic of an athlete you were and what you look like now..
She is probably 3 bills
@322. My guess us you have Ax to grind. Your girl didn't make rutgers or PDA. Hope that's working out for you. Rutgers lost to Virginia. Losing to the best team in the bracket(in my opinion) is not too shabby at all. They played well just could not post them today. I'm proud the state school had a horse in the race.
Anybody at ODP tryout yesterday? There was a very strong group of girls who clearly all played together... Just wondered which team they were from?
My daughter played for PDA crush and now plays for Rutgers,she absolutely loves both programs.It will take a few more years for Rutgers to get to the absolute elite level that Virginia is currently at.Having been at the game Friday evening in Charlottesville,I can tell you that they are great.Sunday UVA beat 3rd seed Kentucky 7-0 (and 14th nationally ranked).In my opinion having played Penn State(who we beat 1-0 on the road)and Virginia,the top 5 teams are on a whole other level.Rutgers currently has 2 H.S. all-Americans on their roster,while an old established national power like UVA has multiple,as well as 2 National pool players.Having spent their entire inaugural season in the BIG10 ranked in the top 25 is not too shabby.If it somehow makes you feel better about yourself bad mouthing a bunch of NJ girls competing for their state university at the national level vs. teams with rosters full of girls from all over the state,have at it.My goal for our second daughter is to commit to RU as a freshman and follow in her sisters legacy.You go ahead and set your sights on UVA or UNC for your daughter and let's see what's what in 3 short years from now.While it may be great for a girl like Brittany Radcliffe(NJ girl from Williamstown) to play for UVA,there is a certain amount of pride being known as the Jersey girl who could have gone anywhere(and I mean anywhere) staying home and putting the state university on the map.Our coach will undoubtedly be upset with me for me taking the bait,but he also knows that I won't tolerate any nonsense from people who have no clue.-Joe Tiernan
Joe, is your 2nd daughter a U12 Player?
yep,PDA south....just like big sister
@ 10:10 Nicely said. I don't think anyone should get upset with you stating anything you wrote. My U12 daughter hopes to play at a great NJ University as well. Never to early to even have it in their minds. She's actually mentioned wanting to play for Princeton one day, and told me she knows that she needs to keep her grades perfect to play there. Even though they won't get as many top players bc they have to be top in their class with their grades but strict Ivy league rules prohibit them from training like Rutgers due to their education requirements. If that is where she wants to try and play later on and can get accepted with grades and to play soccer, then I'd support it.
well said @1010 AND @1216. RU did a great job this season, not sure why the earlier comment. on U12 grounds, IGFA seems on a roll, they beat SDFC? not from either team, (really) just surprised.
Was anyone at the IGFA VS SDFC game last night. If so how was ? . I SEEN THAT IGFA BEAT SDFC 2/1 ... heard the IGFA keeper saved some great shots. But like to hear from someone that was there. Thanks .
IGFA - SDFC, same level of play, one can beat the other any given day. I don't think either of those teams could ever dominate or beat some of the other top level teams in other brackets. I do think both teams are nicely coached.
Does anyone know if the FC Virginia team that is playing in EDP's South division 1st bracket, if they are the team that's supposed to be their ecnl team? I don't think that team can even keep up with the NJ NPL/EDP teams.
Joe T. well said, thanks for the input. People should have some loyalty and respect for our NJ girls no matter what team they play for. They work hard even at the u12 age, they also know they want better things down the road in life so for someone to come in here and bash RU or PDA is just to me a disgruntled parent. Even though my daughter is not on a PDA team she is with a good group of respected players and coach, they are playing at a top level so we should all be happy we have this many good teams in the state of NJ.
Sounds like a lot of pressure to put on a younger sister to commit as a freshman to d1. And for the coach of ru as well.
that's the goal,older sister committed as a sophomore. Not that uncommon anymore.
I've seen younger sister play. She's excellent. Speed, skills, IQ are all there.
Pda is lucky to have her. I would be concerned if my daughter played on Galaxy, sounds like she can take anyone's spot anytime she wants.
I see that most of the national team players from Pda have committed as sophmores, they are the best of the best. Not sure why anyone would ever want to commit so young?
Sounds like one full spot is already taken in our age group at RU.
I don't think Galaxy players would have to worry. Why would they? If they have ECNL events and there are top players performing well on the other PDA teams, they could easily be pulled to be used at those ECNL events. And I'm sure as they get older, those teams will train together at times and do internal scrimmage festivals. They are probably doing them already. And no, my daughter is not on PDA. I just don't like the bashing of clubs and girls, like you see on here.
That poster should look at RU's roster. Maybe they would wake up and see it's not all PDA players. Just someone unhappy that their kid didn't make or got cut from PDA.
I would be a little concerned. Ecnl events only allow a certain number to play and roster. If that spot is being shared by multiple teams and players, then someone loses. And not just minutes but full tournament play. That is concerning for most people. Look forward to the spin on this one.
Multiple teams? It's one club, same age group. It would probably just be a few select girls, not the whole team/s. The girls probably have to work hard to prove they can compete at that level and if needed, like guesting, but not really, because they are all under one same name. You can look up the ECNL rules. Players can move around if under one club name.
Understand 100 percent. Having multiple teams to pull from, even if only a few select from some, will take spots from girls on primary team during key ecnl events. That will be concerning to some. You can't spin this. I get rule and understand why Pda does this, just sucks for many players, but not your daughter of course. Just hope she s top 16 or so, or you will feel the pain. It is what it is....
maybe only if the players are needed they would be selected to join certain events. and they would probably not be the starters.
Joe T - This is just a sincere question, and you don't have to answer. But, do you think your oldest daughter would have had the same leg into RU if her team wouldn't have moved to PDA? I'm assuming she would have been great no matter what. Do you think that joining PDA really brought that team to he next level?
I didn't even come on here to debate ECNL or clubs,I just came on to defend the state university and the numerous NJ girls from various clubs who were being ridiculed.Good luck to everyone and GO RUTGERS!!! the state university of NJ.
well 2:41,I'll answer your question with a question.Where is my younger daughter and who is her coach?
Seems like NCAA rules are being played around with. Should be looked into further. Many of the girls on the roster were coached by the RU head coach.
Most college coaches are also ODP and club coaches you imbecile.
Resorting to name-calling means the whole thing is probably a bit true and you're starting to get defensive now. The difference between ODP coaches ect..I believe is that they are not running a club/business to try and stack their rosters with majority of girls that these coaches/DOC are coaching.
Well, now all that is done and talked about. I hope everyone and their families have a Happy Thanksgiving!!
Can't believe our coach cancelled practice tonight, what am I supposed to do now?? Ridiculous. ..
We should be discussing some post season analysis.Is cherry hill really that bad in the south division?Looks like the central division issues are with MF and NJX, they have some work do to. In the north division, it's all about WCFC. I thought this was supposed to be some great club and this team started at u7?
@7:10 lets talk some real issues, not simply your obvious personal agendas. would love to know what team your player is on.how many times is your team training over the winter? I hear some are training 3x week while others once. and is anyone playing MAPS futsal this year after the mess it was last year?
I like the 710 poster questions better. Who cares how many times people train in winter. It's bbal season anyway. I will tell you this, stay away from MF and NJX is just a town team as they have always claimed to be.
What is the problem w/ 'town teams'? Most turn to 'academy' level as they get older anyway. If a team is good than they're good. Sometimes it's just a matter of drawing in one or two dedicated talented players to round off rosters, when needed. NJ Rush Hamilton won state cup, and thet are a 'town team'. Is anyone going to say they are not a bunch of talented girls? And what happened with MAPS futsal last year? I haven't heard anything. I know that MatchFit futsal was terrible. They had futsal 'fields' that were too small and aligned the wrong way. Was really bad.
The FC Virginia team playing in the EDP South 1st Division is not their ECNL team. They have a few different teams playing. Their top team like all other ECNL clubs will be their ECNL team and using top players of the other teams most likely if ever needed. Everything is easily researched via the worldwide web.
guess you didn't play maps futsal last two yearsbc they could not get enough teams for each age bracket and the schedule was posted and changed weekly. town teams is an interesting problem I guess, bc it seems that a lot of "town" teams are overwhelming "academy" teams, that pay twice the price.
If people like their town teams, they why don't they stay with their town teams until college?
Are there older so called town teams in NJ that stuck together until college in older age groups? And were any of those girls successful and playing in a top D1 college?
As long as the majority of the town team's parents are committed and know all well they are shooting for there children to play at a collegiate level then it works all the way to U17. But the majority outcome around the hitting the U14 to U15 age is when the 2 to 4 girls/boys from that move on to playing with a club team to help showcase themselves, while there teammates stay and play for social activities at there town level.I've never seen a entire town team committed to U16/17 and all play at a high level. If you research the high level tournaments like this past Bethesda you can see at the U15/16/17 age groups you do not see any town teams entering. If your an exceptional player you will get notice but if your in the middle of the pack player it's better to move to a club/academy team now to assure you have a roster spot and can develop into the team style of play.
It sounds like what is being said is that town teams do not market their players to prospective colleges as well as academy teams do, if they do at all. That's the fault of the town team and not the academy team. Maybe if town teams stepped up they wouldn't lose players.
It's up to the town team's local high school to market prospective colleges and you are correct they do not do this well. You can stay at your local town team and attend a school like Immaculate Heart Academy rank #1 in girls high school soccer or spend the funds at a club/academy early. Either way you'll end up spending the money if your daughter wants to play collegiately. Even going that way you still end up playing club ball/academy ball.
Wake up your kids a re 12!
College soccer is not going to help your girl as much as excelling academically in a marketable major, or spending her time at a focused internship. Rare girl that has the luxury of college being a place to focus on soccer.
Why are we even talking about college.2 years from now half of these so called all-star club teams will be gone and half the girls committed to another sport or lose passion. Just enjoy that your daughter is having fun playing at a high level where the majority of girls on town teams wish they were playing with a PDA, NJ RUSH, SDFC, SJEB, TSF or any other kind of club team like them. You parents thinking about college soccer already should move there child to U14 team.
Now if your child wants to play soccer at the highest level and she's darn good, and has got the brains academically, nothing wrong with steering them in the right direction now. They've got Kumon for kids starting at the pre-school ages, nothing wrong with letting them excel in a sport at the same time. Every child is different. If they don't have the smarts, well then of course they won't be playing at a top D1 school. All girls on those rosters have to be excelling academically and play some darn good soccer. People making comments like the two above, well..lead your children in the direction that fits best for them. At least I'll grow old having no regrets when it comes to my children and the choices which I help them decide on.
NJ Rush are town teams. They just put the name on a few different town programs throughout Central and South Jersey areas. Look at their webpage. As the teams get older, they just lose the town name altogether. But the players are most likely going to remain the same, with maybe the addition of a few. But to think they'd ever drop girls off of any of their teams, is highly unlikely.
12:41 True - NJ RUSH are Dunkin Donut Franchise of Soccer. I think there are only 2 RUSH teams in the country in ECNL (Colorado & Texas). They go into town clubs and take over an already good team then turn them into RUSH so players don't leave. Good Route if you are not looking for pre-ECNL teams and want the training. I like DD by the way favorite place to stop before a morning game.
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