Now I did not get the opportunity to see these "Super Teams" at the Jeff Cup. I do disagree with you. There is enough talent in NJ to compete. You could build a team of the best position players from the top 5 and compete.
The biggest disparities always take place in the earliest years whether on an individual player level or team level..... that's where you'll see the lop-sided results. Things tend to tighten up as the girls get older. The easiest rebuttal is to say that NJ/NY/PA ECNL teams are amongst the best in the nation within the ECNL and the top non-ECNL teams in NJ/NY/PA are also amongst the top non-ECNL teams in the nation. To say that we are sooooo far behind in training and development is simply ridiculous. You can probably justify saying we are behind in terms of our talent "pooling" at U11 enough to play other states top teams which are simply ahead of the curve in "pooling".We have an entrenched town-based model here in the northeast which bodes well as far as generating headcount in the sport, but it slows down the process of cream rising to the top. The top players tend to find their way over time to the "academies" and "independent" models like PDA, Matchfit, TSF, Rush, SJEB and others.It's a point of contention on every Northeast soccer forum. The town-based model is slowly giving way to the "independents". The talent is starting to pool earlier and earlier, but we are behind the curve for now and certainly at U11, as the results show at Jeff Cup.
This is a good debate. I believe the person that stated Nj soccer is far behindOther states. Has not seen quality soccer. Or does notKnow what quality soccer is.If you look at the history of the US national soccer youthTeams on both the boys & girls teams. You would seeMany top players from NJ. I can name 3 former US captains on the mens side from NJ. On the womens side we currently have 6 players from NJ on the national team and one of them is the captain. Yes 6 ! From this small state.MFC has a couple girls on the US youth national teams. PDA has a couple girls on the US youth national teams and jjust had 6 girls selected to the McDonals High school All American game. That is noEasy feat.To sum this up. I don't thing NJ soccer has anything to worry about. I think TIm Howard & Christie RamponeWould agree.
Well said 11:10
Rush get real?
Yeah, I just threw Rush in there as another "independent" example, not necessarily a top notch example. It does prove my point that there's a push in that direction. Just look at the fact that 35 or so Rush programs have been created Nationally over the past 10 years or so. Throw Global Premier Soccer in too which was started by Joseph Bradley..... GPS now has Massacheusets Premier Soccer Jersey Premier Soccer, Rhode Island, Maine, Florida etc. Just making the point that Town based soccer is methodically giving way to the independent model.
Good point sorry!
Does anyone know the roster size for the State Cup? Is it a frozen roster?
It seems most forget that warm weather teams are in mid season form and are coming off four months of which most nj based teams practice once a week. So it would make sense nj teams wouldn't fair well in an early spring tournament.
Will BT knock off Jackson this weekend ?
Good luck to Burlington Township tomorrow!You can do this!! Beat Jackson
To those mentioning warm weather teams had the advantage over NJ, keep in mind that WAZA of Michigan won it all and Cincy was one of the other top teams. Not exactly balmy.
Anyone have EDP scores or were games cancelled?
PDA Nova - NJ Rush 0-0
Jackson must suck 2-0 over BT?
And the idiot returns. nice comment 2:28.. you really contribute alot to this blog.
yeah, let's all do ourselves a favor and simply ignore comments like that!
Looks like SJEB is going to be the team to win the state cup this year!
Does anyone know how close the game was between Jackson and BT
whoa nelly with SJEB winning the cup! They've got Hamilton this Saturday for the NJ Cup then Nova on Sunday for EDP. I'd wait for those results for putting that out there. Even if they win both games this weekend, I'd consider them underdogs in the NJ Cup because they'd have to go on to beat Nova(again), then Galaxy in the semi, then whoever makes it into the finals from the other side.I don't care who was in that position - they would all be underdogs!!
7 EDP games this weekend plus a bunch of NJ Cup games. We should start to see how things play out and have plenty to talk about next week. How about we all agree to keep it positive.... or at least not negativeweather actually looks good for a change
I applaud all the girls who played this past weekend, especially to complete NJ Cup games in an otherwise crowded scheduled, despite the weather being atrocious (wind chills in the thirties are one thing - tack on driving rain and it's quite another). Conditions didn't always make for good play, but that doesn't make the wins/losses any less emotional for the players. Looking forward to watching them play in warm and dry weather this weekend.- EE
Well put EE. OK, so it’s a slow day at work Predictions: Arsenal 3Stronghold 1 Allendale 4Montclair 0 JU Spartans 2Millstone 0 NJX 4Mercer 0 Middletown 5JC Boca 1 Toms River 3Twin Rivers 1 Wall 2FC Copa 3 Cherry Hill 3Marlton 1 Hamilton 1SJEB 1 -CM
CM - I will disagree on the following: Millstone over Jersey United; Middletown/Boca a 1 goal difference either way; Wall over Copa; Cherry Hill by 4 over Marlton; and although Hamilton and SJEB could go either way, I'm going to predict SJEB by 2 goalsIf I get all five correct, someone owes me a cup of coffee.- EE
Hamilton vs SJEB decided in overtime or PK's. Should be a good game and probably the game of the week.
Hey, 7:57 I only call it like I see it!!!!,
SJEB. By 5 goals!!!!!!!!!!
Any thougts about the 8v8 brackets for State Cup and EDP?
I only have first-hand knowledge of a few teams in the 8v8 division of New Jersey Cup, but what the heck:SDFC Rage over FCNJ by 5NJ Crush White over Wildcats by 2Rage Renegades over Mt. Laurel by 4NJ Crush over SDFC Aztecs by 5Monroe over Rage Revolution by 1FC Maximus over Westfield by 5Parsippany over East Brunswick by 1- EE
Why would you think SJEB would beat Hamilton by 5 goals? Have they ever even beaten them? Thought they were pretty even teams. Too bad the teams that have been together for so long won't weed out the weaker players to make stronger teams. That's why at the older ages the stronger players leave to PDA or MatchFit, ect.
2:29PMWhoever posted that prediction was obviously trying to put down Hamilton or make SJEB appear arrogant. Like you said, they are very even teams. It was just one of those "pot stirring" comments. Let's not fall for it.
So I see in the bracket Middletown United won 3-0. I will assume you will agree with my presumption to count my 5-1 prediction as a “win” in my bracket.I also see that if NJX wins as expected vs. Mercer, this will set up a match of the team who left Middletown vs. the “new” Middletown. Intra-town bragging rights at stake? -CM
I thought the Middletown/Boca game would be closer. Guess I lose my cup of coffee.- EE
Does anyone know whether these teams like Burlington, boca or Middletown are any good?
Toughest match up pending will be NJX and Jackson. A lot of history between these 2 teams and always great games. Not that either of them should look past the game in front of them, but they will probably meet in the quarters. I knew TSF would beat Crew. They are too physical.
I don't think boca, 'new' middletown, or Burlington are even on the map of top teams. Especially Burlington?! Lol. Top players of these teams should head to nearest top teams to them and compete. I'm sure now is the time people should be contacting coaches and planning to head to tryouts!
Looks like some good games today, and finally some decent weather. SJEB vs Hamilton the game of the weekend. Please update us after the game. Several other games promise to be close IMO (Arsenal/Stronghold)(Allendale/Montclair)Hamilton has the edge playing at home. And they are defending their title from last spring. -CM
SJEB won 2-0.
NJX 4-0 over Mercer
It appears I may have a future as a prognosticator for youth soccerNJX 4-0 over Mercer (spot on)Toms River by 2 (spot on)Allendale 6-0 over Montclair (I called it 4-0)Arsenal 3-1 over Stronghold (I called it 3-0)I had Wall and SJEB wrong. These predictions and a subway token will get me anywhere in NY. A few unreported. Stay tuned for the next round of predictions.Too much time on my hands-CM
Definitely too much time, it's a sickness, get a life
Jags Lyon 5 nj crush1
"Definitely too much time, it's a sickness, get a life" - says the person checking and posting at 1:45 a.m.! Thanks for the laugh!-CM
It was 1145 and I was checking to see if there was any information on local tryouts. Useful information, not a grown man predicting 11yo girls scores or posts about how to shut down another team. Are we serious? I thought this was a board for useful info to help the parents and kids? I guess I was wrong.
Yes, you can go away. There is no info for you. Please keep the predictions going, we enjoy them.
I guess somehow it just lists the post at 1:45"Definitely too much time, it's a sickness, get a life April 6, 2014 at 1:45 AM"But anyway, if you are checking for tryout information at midnight or later, I guess it was a rough weekend for you, I mean, your daughter.-CM
I'm sorry you're right, keep on making predictions on 11 yo soccer games, that's a healthy, normal thing for a grown man or woman to do. Sick.
PDA Lyon 6 Monroe 0.
OK, back to soccer. ANy scores or good games from today?
Last I checked, for my daughter every game and every practice is a tryout. I just wish they could cut a few parents ;)
EDP has updated all games from this weekend except Cherry Hill vs Hamilton. That should have been a good one:http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?EventID=37317&GroupID=341350&Gender=Girls&Age=11
So sick of seeing PDALYON scores they have yet to beat top u 10 teams and beat up on 11 year old b teams enough already.
PDA Lyon won against NJ Crush White "B" team and Monroe a weak local town team - post something with merit or not at allNice win SJEB
*Disclaimer: The Following post does not contain any tryout information. Viewer discretion is advised: SJEB over Nova this weekend 2-0. If the same results occur in State Cup, I may lose 2 PDA teams I had for the Final Four. Hamilton seems to be slipping. Knocked out of State Cup. Only 1-0 over TR, and tied Cherry Hill 2-2.Calvert doesn’t seem to be a threat to the very top tier NJ teams. Lost 3-1 to Jackson and tied Freehold 1-1. Leads me to believe they are solid, but a notch below the very best in NJ and MD. Stay tuned for the next round’s predictions. -CM PS: Lyon is a very good team. No idea what they are doing at u10. Posting their score doesn't seem offensive to me but I do think any spats between Voorhees and Lyon best argued on the u10 chat.
No way "new Middletown" beats njx. "new Middletown" is mostly angry parents of kids who weren't picked up for njx. sad for the 11 year old girls. puts them in a losing situation. focus on developing your kids and playing not the axe your trying to grind "new Middletown" your still the same ole Middletown!
Ok boys and girls...watch and learn.Americans over Spartans 2-0TSF over Arsenal 3-1NJX over Middletown 5-0Jackson over Mon. Coast 3-0Freehold over TR 1-0Galaxy over Wall 7-0Nova over CH 2-0Next Round:TSF over Americans 2-0Jackson over NJX 1-0Galaxy over Freehold 5-0SJEB over Nova 2-1Next Round:Jackson over TSF 2-1SJEB over Galaxy 2-1FinalSJEB over Jackson 2-1Call Vegas and place a bet.Mr. X
Mr. XAll reasonable predictions, but I'd go with Galaxy over SJEB 2-1 based on Galaxy already having beaten them 3-1 in a tournament over the summer and I'll go with NJX over Jackson 1-0. No reason for that just a hunch. I'd then go with Galaxy over NJX 3-0 in the final.
Well done Mr X. Between EE, Mr X, and some others here, its nice to have some positive good-natured talk, as opposed to some of the other age groups. I;ll make my next round calls soon-CM
The funny thing is PDA Lyon would be a top u 11 team. They beat the eventual state cup champ 4-2 last year. They were up 4-0 at half and rested some staters in second half.
Question for PDA dad. Have you guys played galaxy? I'm sure you have at least scrimmaged them a few times. Be honest, have you beat them?
Not supposed to tell, sorry.
The answer is no!
Word from inside PDA is Lyon is better than Galaxy. Best team at this age for PDA in years.
Wow r people talking about a u-10 team on a u-11 blog what top u-11 teams has Lyon beat as of late...have they played any team worth talking about if not take it some where else .....
For any narcoleptic parents in urgent need of tryout information, they may find this helpful:http://www.nj.com/forums/youthsoccertryouts/-CM
Lyon never played galaxy. I think beating the u 11 state cup winner was a relevant win.
Can we move back to talking about u11 teams?
Have an idea why the NJ teams fared poorly at the jeff cup. Saw two games this weekend that should have been fairly even. North teams traveling south. North teams first time on grass at all, south teams had been on grass 2+ weeks, games and practice. South teams dominated both games. Great to be on indoor turf all winter, but the first time the kids are on grass it isn't pretty.
Why are these Lyon's parents even on this blog? Go away. They are just so self righteous it's appalling. Your team is good, we all know. Can we move on?
Is Galaxy even the top team for PDA? Anyone think Nova is better? How about this PDA Shore BS. If that is not a money grab, I dont know what one is. Who are you getting by the Shore to jump ship?
Seriously Mr. X? Jackson over NJX? The only reason they will get to that game is because their defense is pretty good and Monmouth Coast is a MOSA team. They have no offense. Their striker gets shut down easily. NJX has their number. They are at the bottom of the top teams.
PDA Shore is simply an "affiliation" now in place between PDA and Toms River. Think of it like rebranding Toms River's top teams in each age group as PDA Shore. Simply change the jerseys next fall and hope the new name draws talent in from outside their club to make better teams. Layer in the PDA curriculum etc.
More like a layer to the PDA revenue stream! Good for them. Eat or be eaten. Hope Matchfit stays small and only draws top talent.
I am just trying my best to look past all the multitude of distractions to enjoy the possibility of seeing my daughter play in 74 degree weather this weekend. Man, that will be a nice change.- EE
Mr X is entitled to his prediction. Lets not forget Jackson beat Galaxy last fall. Jackson and NJX both have very strong defense. State Cup final was 1-0 NJX. Anything can happen. -CM
3:17I know there's raging competition between PDA and Matchfit, but to say that Matchfit is any different would simply be inaccurate. Look at Gotsoccer rankings at U17G for example. There are 5 Matchfit teams in that age group. Most of them carry the name as a result of some sort of rebranding or affiliation. Montclair, Randolph, Somerset, Wildcats etc."I hope they stay small" sorry, that train has left the station for most of the academies. They are all in a race for headcount increase. It's expansion by any means possible.
3:17 nailed it. Sadly non affiliated teams will continue to be diminished, and playing for an "academy" will have a watered down distinction. Everyone will be paying more for questionable return on investment. The only industry that I am aware of that continues to grow rapidly year in/ year out are all youth sport related businesses.
PDA Nova just didn't have a good game against SJEB. The score could have been a lot worse. Nova has a really good gk who came up big during the game to keep the score only to 2. I hope to see a rematch in the cups to see how these teams do again. Considering Nova beat SJEB in the fall 3-0.
I would agree about Nova's goalkeeper. One of the best U-11 goalkeepers in the area. As far as the team they have a lot of talent. Just need to play consistent.
*The following information does not contain tryout information. It is solely meant for entertainment purposes. If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, please call 1-800-Gambler. If reading these make you angry, please call 1-800-985-5990 Looks like we have some games this week so I will give my predictions: NJX 3Middletown 0 Jackson 3Monmouth Coast 0 Freehold 2Toms River 1(this was toughest call for me) Galaxy 6Wall 0 Cherry Hill 0Nova 3 Allendale 3Jersey United 1 TSF 3Arsenal 1 -CM
I don't think Nova and Cherry Hill play this weekend in the NJ Cup because they are both in the PDA tournament.
Looking forward to welcoming FC Stars, Pipeline, South Shore, Breakers, FSA and Syracuse to New Jersey this weekend. Should be a terrific weekend of soccer (played in gorgeous weather) for all involved. Sure hope NJ shows well against all of them.- EE
NJX-Middletown should be a good game. They're both pretty solid teams. Saw Middletown play Boca. Could've been 6 or 7 nothing. Boca didn't get a single shot on goal.
If you're playing at Morningside this weekend, hopefully you know the bridge is out and have to use the detour from the main PDA complex to get to the fields (about 10-15 minutes depending on time of day). Good luck to all!
3:15 - Boca would have trouble getting a shot off on a National 3 MOSA team. Are you really using that as a measuring stick? Middletown Red is a National 1 MOSA team at their best. It will be ugly vs. NJX. At least NJX will get out of their goal scoring slump. - Mr. X
4:32 - LOL. What do I know? I don't have a scouting report on 10yr old soccer! Good luck folks!
NJX 1 Middletown 0Final
NJX-Middletown was a good game. NJX definitely dominated.. Middletown only had 2 shots on net... Middletown goalie made some nice saves....
NJX Middletown game was almost one of those on any given day games . NJX completed dominated and probably outshot Middletown 15-2 but just couldn't put it in the net.
To the guy saying south/warm had an advantage over north/cold at Jeff cup it wasn't true. Waza of michigan won it all and went undefeated. They said they play 75% of year indoor and did just fine on their first weekend on grass in six months. Cincy dominated as well, can't get much colder than those places. They win because plain and simple they had better players than nj md or even SoCal in a way
I guess NJX didn't get out of their goal scoring slump. A real man admits when he is wrong. I was wrong about NJX. Mr. X
Mr x. I think you were wrong about the quality of the middletown team too. Just sayin.
I will mark myself down for a loss with my NJX 3-0 call over Middletown. NJX has to be concerned with their inability to put the ball in the back of the net. Their defense is very formidable. Next round vs. Jackson (presumably) will be a close game. I stick with my original prediction of Jackson going to the finals. -CM
Legitimately if the NJX girls could hit water when they fall from a boat it should have been 8-0.
We can go on forever about NJX and Middletown game yesterday. But the reality of it ALL is that NJX won this game 1-0. Now leave it to rest and move on people.
Jackson vs Monmouth Coast tonight. Some old school MOSA premier bad blood.
Monmouth Coast over Jackson - posted on NJ Cup site. Wow, that messed up some of our brackets Duke losing to Mercer!
If your child is on a local team that has some really goo players and great training that would be the path i would takCool escape games
I am shocked Jackson lost, at home nonetheless. My days as the great prognosticator appear to have ended quite abruptly. My brackets are completely blown out on the right side. I will go NJX vs. TSF in the finals for the right side now. NJX gets to try and defend their title, but fails vs. Galaxy. -CM
Not shocked that jackson lost. saw them play a while ago & sensed that the pack was catching up with them. Think that's happening across the age group. That's expected. They're 11 years old! Seeing some good soccer, though.
Jackson beat Galaxy in the fall. They lost to NJX 1-0 in State Cup finals. I am shocked. I would venture to say those parents have been checking the try out schedules for other teams. -CM
Look, especially at this age on any given day any team can be off and lose a game they were expected to win (or visa versa). To say that because of that everyone will start looking elsewhere is absurd. A single win/loss shouldn't send people running - unless they are focused on the wrong things. Maybe the focus should be more on the what the overall program offers and where its trying to go? I'm not from Jackson and would probably benefit from such a thing happening - but I don't believe it should or will.
With the various affiliations occurring, and more academy teams as options, town teams are already suffering from attrition. To think SOME (I never said all) will not be trying out for PDA-NJX (Match Fit) - NJ Rush, Wildcats, etc is being naive. Losing to a team they were once head and shoulders above will be a wake up call.-CM
Are you saying the kids are trying out because of W-L records of their current clubs?
W-L records aren't the be all end all, but they do provide a gauge for a teams progression season to season. If a team starts to struggle and lose against teams they once beat handily it's a sign that they are not progressing as well on a relative basis OR that these other teams are doing a better job recruiting - or both!
Not at all. But what I am saying is when you see other teams improving, witness girls with greater skills on other teams, as well as when you realize you need to be on certain clubs with ECNL/NPL affiliation if you want to play at the highest levels, it isn’t hard to imagine girls/parents will realize they may want to grab a seat before the music stops. Just my two cents, offered at the discounted price of free-CM
I agree completely my post was directed towards 2:09. I guess I was beating you to a response. The desire for ECNL/NPL affiliation will take it's toll on unaffiliated teams over the next few years with player migration for the exact reasons you are citing. There will be "one-off" teams that don't have those affiliation that may be able to compete against the top teams regionally, but that will be the exception to the rule, not the base case. It's just how the funnel goes. from U9-12 town teams will compete at the highest level, but as seasons roll by players and parents will migrate over to those ECNL/NPL affiliates. That will be a strong headwind for the "one-offs" to overcome.
Isn't it just PDA and Match-Fit that play ECNL now? So you're saying that everyone is going to end up there - or try to? Thats not what I've seen happen over the last 10yrs - and plenty of players not in either of those two orgs have made it to play at higher levels.
There are actually 6 teams in the Metro division of the ENCL which represent the regional ECNL options available to players and parents on this board:PDAMatchfitWorld ClassPenn FusionFC BucksFC ContinentalYou're right, not all players can play for those clubs due to travel or talent issues. The next level of teams come the NPL league in our area, which is called the EDP - Eastern Development League. The top clubs in the EDP are their "Core Clubs" but there are also "contributing clubs" participating within the EDP. For a list of Core and Contributing clubs within the EDP go to this link:http://edpsoccer.org/tier2/tier2.php?page=32It's important to understand that the ECNL is a National League with Regional Divisions like Metro. The NPL is NOT really a national league but is really just a bunch of Regional Leagues throughout the country. Our NPL League is EDP.For a list of all the NPL leagues throughout the country go to this link:http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/Leagues/I hope that's all expressed properly. The point being that town teams unaffiliated within those structures will struggle attracting players as time goes. Those leagues are well structured and organized as far as having pay-offs to establish National Champions and having player ID mechanisms like PDP(ECNL), TIP(NPL) etc. College coaches are simplifying their scouting process by accessing those Leagues more and more. Top players would be well advised to know the landscape and seek out the club/team that best suits their long term goal as a player. If you want to play at the best level, against the best competition and have the best chance to be recognized as a top player for college etc, it just makes sense to know the landscape and find the best fit for your ability and potential exposure.
haha, a typo I my previous post should have said "play-offs" and not "pay-offs" - funny, because you will be paying more to play at those clubs - maybe it wasn't a typo after all!
PDA Kickoff Score Updates11 v 11 Championship BracketPDA Nova and FC Stars of Mass tied 1-1 in closely matched game. Pipeline controlled game vs Holmdel NJX Sol in 3-1 win. PDA Galaxy handled TSF 3-0. South Shore Select (MA) dominated Syracuse Development Academy 7-0.Next set of games at 12:40.
Won't be seeing njx in any more top brackets - Moma njx will be upset with this comment.Looks like the out of state teams will win this one.
Two 7-0 losses. Is Jersey Shore Boca really that bad? Are they missing players? Those scores have to make NJX Sol feel better about their two losses.
"Looks like the out of state teams will win this one."Why do you think that? Galaxy and nova still alive. -CM
Saw some really good soccer today ... saw some good teams relying on not-so-good fouling ... saw the occasional team that shouldn't be there ... but all in all, a terrific first day of tournament play beneath beautiful warm blue skies. Can't wait for tomorrow.- EE
The competition is always better in another state... NJ can't compete with out of state teams.
"Not so good fouling" has to be Cherry Hill.
@9:18 wrote:"The competition is always better in another state... NJ can't compete with out of state teams."Really? that sounds a bit premature, and contrary to today's scorelines:PDA Nova tied FC Stars (MA)PDA Galaxy beat Syracuse (NYE)PDA Crew beat FSA (CT)[8v8] Rage beat FC Stars (MA) and PHWM (MD)While some NJ teams fell to out-of-state teams, some other NJ teams had success ... sort of how tournaments tend to work. If PDA Nova bombs against Pipeline or if Galaxy tanks against South Shore tomorrow, then perhaps your argument has a little more validity.
^ - EE
Why does this clown/clowns always try to cause bad blood between teams/parents? Shouldn't this be friendly competition at age 10-11? If it's not Cherry Hill it's Jackson or NJX. Let the kids play the game and shut up. These kids are all great teams. You win some you lose some. Some days a team is going to be off and lose. Doesn't mean they are less of a team or no longer belong at this level.
10:02 have your daughter play Cherry Hill or go watch them play. Then come back here. They foul and not in a clean way. We know it and they know it. Hopefully they are not gleefully laughing with each other over your crumpled up daughter after their hands force her down. Ghetto soccer at its finest.
Wow, "Ghetto Soccer"??? Hhhhmmm. Any racial implications here? For shame Rage parents. For shame.
My apologies to Rage, I mistakenly thought the low level PDA team named Crew was named Rage, perhaps from viewing their parents heated crying on the sideline. I guess seeing a town team who doesn't look like you lose it must be "Ghetto". Are you wearing home it away white sheets to the next game?
We played cherry hill many times...very dirty.....worst I have ever seen.... Need 3 refs for that game...
Nix is still town team. Can't compete with the big You will never see them again in a top bracket.
NJX NJX NJX ....Some one is obsessed with NJX. It's actually a little comical. Haha
PDA Spring Classic UpdatesChampionship 11v11 Top BracketPipeline (MD) vs PDA GalaxyChampionship 2nd BracketBreakers (MA) vs Cherry HillShould be some good games!
I would actually give NJX some credit for still competing well at this age and level. I know the team pretty well from having coached against them, 14 of 15 are from Middletown club team and 12 are the original U8 team. A rarity these days, should be applauded while a lot if the youth sports landscape has been shredded by big money BS being sold to parents. I say bravo.
We have heard this story ten times. People don't like you because of all the talk. This is u11 and you are done.
People don't like who? Cherry hill?
Scary how well you know a team you have coached against in the past-lol. How the riide home after losing another three in row?
FYI jackass I coached old bridge in MOSA and we pretty much all know each other . What's your problem man, you have an issue with people?
Would not be surprised if you see players leaving Holmdel...parents were outwardly expressing their displeasure on the sidelines all weekend.
Why would people be leaving? They are doing great, look how they are dominating in the state cup.
They should merge with Middletown and save all the money they have to spend with NJX. Putting those teams together would improve the program.
That's is funny. Any results from today?
Ask the NJX parents they are the ones saying it loudly on the sidelines. I agree they are an above average team in state. But not same caliber as PDA teams.
Just for the Lyon parents that blog on the u-11 page see they lost to south shore elite u-10 team guys they r not the top team
Just to follow up with my earlier response to last night's 9:18 pm comment that "The competition is always better in another state... NJ can't compete with out of state teams."Final results for all NJ teams in U11 against out-of-state:10 wins, 4 draws, 12 losses (both 11v11 and 8v8)Rage and PDA's three teams against out-of-state:8 wins, 2 draws, 0 lossesCongratulations to the Breakers, winning Flight 2, and PDA Galaxy winning Flight 1. All around great tournament this weekend.- EE
I just hope Nova puts their win up on you tube for everyone to watch like they did that huge win over SJEB last season. Great music too. Oddly I can't seem to find the recent loss to the same team?
Sjeb do you remember when the team would play up and win?My question to you is does that still happen?
Nova parents are so classy. Win 1, tie 2, thumping their chests. Please keep updating your wins on youtube.
I am sure sjeb would have a game on YouTube.If only it wasn't a one girl team.Classy?You were the one on here promoting your last win not nova.Nice to know we are so missed and still thought about.Again how is playing up this year working for you?
You're on here trashing NJX, SJEB, and others constantly. No teams seem to have issues with each other but yours (and 1 parent from Lyon). NJX, SJEB, Hamilton, Jackson, Freehold all get on just fine. Games are always good battles and parents are congenial to each other. You beat NJX 1-0 yesterday and blast them from the minute the game ended. Clearly its your parents with the trash talk. It isnt Pipeline parents. Game was 3-0 last time. Guess you collectively couldn't all cover our supposed 1 girl team.
"Looks like the out of state teams will win this one."-Good one.
Sounds like some Barons parents not happy about losing players to pda.I saw the pda video for the first time.Thanks for letting the blog know of its existence.Looks like pda has a very nice team.I am sure your old team will eventually get over losing you.
Can 8:48 elaborate? I don't follow the last statement? I'm sure your old team will get over losing you? Makes no sense. There has been only 1 teams parents on here beating their chests and trashing other teams. Nova. They trashed NJX since last year, trash SJEB, post statements on here pretending to be SJEB, and went right to the blogs again after beating NJX yesterday. I would venture to guess none of the blog tough guys was brave enough to speak up at the game.
ok, I'm picking up a pattern here. The bad apples on this board all seem to come from PDA. PDA Lyon(U10) stirring the pot by being on the wrong board in the first place and trying to upstage teams within their own club and brag about beating various U11 teams. Then we have obnoxious PDA Crew comments regarding Cherry Hill's "Ghetto" soccer. Now we have PDA Nova's obsession with SJEB. Their singular focus on claiming their a 1 man team is laughable and we all know that. The only PDA team that has stayed out of the insult game is Galaxy. Kudos to the Galaxy parents and shame on the rest of the teams representing that club.While I'm at it I'd like to point out that Galaxy has got to be the top team I this age group. Their results this weekend put an end to that debate for me for now anyway. So I'm not a PDA basher. Quite the contrary actually, I'm just calling it like I see it.
Who said Crew posted that comment about Cherry Hill?
The comment in question was made after Saturday's games and only two teams played Cherry Hill - PDA Crew who lost a tight 1-0 match and were probably hot about it AND Jersey Shore Boca who lost to them 7-0 and probably accept their loss and simply being over matched. Deductive reasoning.
Actually, I believe that I made the first comment about having seen a good team that overly relied on less-than-clean play. Someone then hazarded the guess that it was Cherry Hill - I will neither confirm or deny whether that is whom I was referring to [if I had wanted to point fingers at any club I would have named them in my original post]. At least one of the posts that mentioned Cherry Hill indicated they had played them several times, so my impression was that the comment was not necessarily coming from an opponent from this weekend. But who really knows who is saying what here.- EE
Sjeb stop obsessing over Pda.We are happy and have moved on.Hope you can eventually do the same.
PS - whomever made the comment, the reference to "ghetto soccer" was utterly out of line - we can all agree on that, hopefully?- EE
EE,I can certainly agree on that.
10:05 You're an admitted Nova parent by that comment. You and others(presumably, I guess it might be you over and over again) keep referencing SJEB commenting back to you but no one from that club has outed themselves as you have. Your insecurities have been making that assumption. So it's really just you that keeps bringing them back into the conversation. Who's obsessed? Oh yeah, now I just brought them back into it oops. And it was me that made the post at 9:45pm that picked up on the PDA pattern. All you're doing is substantiating my claim with more facts - thanks! Now go away! Disclaimer: Not a sjeb parent, but I was at the tournament this weekend to see your kick and chase style - maybe you guys should train with Galaxy on occasion.
10:22. That's a good idea about Nova learning from Galaxy. But Galaxy, Storm, Lyon, and all the real top tier teams look down on these pseudo PDA clubs as what they are, the red headed step kids. The affiliations are a way to make more money to further the cause. No player in Somerset takes them for real.
Cherry Hill is a rich suburb of Philadelphia. Nearly 80% of its population is white. Only 6% are black. So while the word may seem objectionable, it would be more offensive if it was used with a different city, like Camden. No one has come on here and said Cherry Hill plays good or fair soccer. No one has defended how they play. The only objection has been to a poor word choice. I think the previous posters are probably correct about them being dirty.
10:33 - You need to get out of the area more. Lots of clubs across the nation are gobbling up smaller clubs and making super clubs. Look at the Dallas Texans: http://www.dallastexans.com/page/show/1080724-texans-divisionsThey have plenty of expanded outposts in Texas, including one in Canada.Sporting Blue Valley combined Blue Valley and KCFC a few years ago to become Sporting Blue Valley. They have also created an agreement with two other clubs to create a joint developmental partnership for Pre-ECNL and NPL teams: http://www.tschurricane.com/home/648165.htmlSt. Louis Scott Gallagher has branched out into Southern Illinois and now has SLSG-Metro. FC Eclipse out of Chicago also went across state lines and now have FC Wisconsin Eclipse. What is Match Fit doing with having teams play out of their regular location (Morristown) and apparently having its "elite" teams playing out of Hazlet? You don't see expansion there? What about WCFC partnering with Manhattan Soccer Club? What PDA is doing has been done previously by many clubs across the nation, is being done now by area teams as well, and will continue in the future. It sounds like its in-house development like professional baseball's farm teams. If that is so, then its going to be harder for smaller teams to compete.
The adopted kid quoting the family mantra. Yes, yes we are all well aware of the expansions of all the top teams. But it's all those satellite teams chirping the most, espousing the virtues of their adopted families to all. Of course "Mom and Dad" love you just the same. We believe you No Go parents, I mean, Nova. Sorry, I saw the word in my native tongue.
Well at least we know one poster is Spanish-speaking.
Oh Crew parent, thanks for the Jim Crow humor. So you as a 100% Caucasian team use the term "ghetto" soccer on the only team you faced with key players who happen to be minorities, then say it's OK because Cherry Hill is 80% white? But you still maintain that soccer in "ghettos" would be very dirty soccer naturally, because ghettos are basically all minorities. Oh Lord, it is Palm Sunday, please enlighten Mr Bunker. I'm sure he means well. PDA has proven to be quite gracious hosts.
I don't know if it jealousy or what with NJX.. Not sure why people bash them. Yes they are a town team but play soccer well... There not getting killed.. Games are close ft what I have seen.. Some if those girls have soccer game sense. They have 2 girls that play well in the back and 1 girl who is small but very good on midfield... You can be good and not pay academy prices.. Point is that these are 10-11 year old girls that are being bashed is a disgrace..
I took the weekend off from the blog, and this is what I come back to? So much for civility. We are heading for the u12 blog atmosphere rapidly.Congratulations to Galaxy for representing NJ with a quality win.-CM
Question about the PDA Spring Kickoff and Gotsoccer. Is that a ranked tournament? I don't see it on the list of ranked tournaments, yet it seems it's a very popular tournament for the top teams.
To 8:46 am this morning:Not sure why the tournament doesn't show up when you search by tournament rankings, but it is listed on GotSoccer as a Premier Level tournament. Frankly, I question whether those "levels" or "titles" just signify a higher level of payment to GotSoccer by the tournament. http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=36708The results already appear on team pages, though the points haven't been allocated yet. To 10:47 pm last night:Frankly, the term is objectionable no matter how it is used, and no matter to whom it is applied, since the term itself is nothing more than a racially-oriented slur.
Doesn't SJEB do this as well?Don't they have west teams and east teams?Just looking for something to rip PDA about.It's sick how much you worry about what your old teammates are doing.Keep checking YouTube I am sure there will be another video posted soon.
^ - EE (getting old and forgetting to sign!)
Wouldn't it be nice if this site was moved over to one of the very commonly used Forum-type softwares instead of this Blog and comment method? - EEPS - 9:41 was my post, not 9:43
9:43 - Please stop. It is embarrassing to this team and this organization. Every club have their pros and cons. Let your old team(s) enjoy. They are only 11. You are on your third team in three years. Your anger on this board is also heard on the sideline. Please stop before it becomes 4 for 4.
Wow I came on this board to see what is happening at U11 before my daughter tryouts for teams. Why so much hostility for PDA, Match fit, PDA, NJX, Cherry Hill. It’s 11 year old soccer. Can we get on another subject and let me know what academy clubs base cost are per club it’s difficult to find on websites? We are located in Central Jersey.PDA: $NJX: $Match Fit: $NJ Force: $SJEB: $ SDFC: $NJ Rush: $FC Rage: $
Ghetto Soccer is completely inappropriate and not p.c. I believe you meant 'thug' soccer...
Never had a problem when my daughter's team plays pda never heard parents or there coach screaming.It would seem the barons are just upset that they aren't as good as they once were.Still a good team and maybe at tryouts they will pick up a two or three strong players.Will they be ever be good enough to play up again in the edp league?I would say no.But still a good team for our age group.Barons take the"classy" way and wish your old players luck and move on.
@ 10:14am: Very true about 11 year old soccer don't look back if you leave. Also Wow!! On the 3rd team in 3 years, is that the mentality of most of the parents always looking for greener grass?
In the world of soccer. Everyone knows the term "Dirty team" or "Plays Dirty"When you use the term "Ghetto soccer" you are only one thing a racist. Next game stand by your statement & wearYour pointy white hat.
I'm a little surprised about the Crew parent on here making those comments. They are usually pretty restrained. The Nova parents on the other hand have proven to be constant fixtures on the blog bashing everyone. I understand their rivalry with SJEB, but they also bash NJX, Hamilton and others constantly. Kind of adds fuel to the view of the northern NJ teams that south Jersey is nothing but low class red necks. It seems to be the Moms to boot. The Dads sit on the sideline meekly.
Hey I meekly dislike that last comment!
I don't think it's fair to lump Crew into the same category as Nova either unless we see more than just that one comment. We've played plenty of south jersey teams and have found most sidelines more than reasonable, so the above comment is over reaching if you ask me. There are more than enough loud mouths to go around no matter where you're from. But while we're on the topic can someone please tell my wife to quiet down because I'm sure as hell not going to tell her.Signed,Meek North Jersey Guy
To 10:27am yesterday:I doubt you'll get many responses to your request for $$ info about clubs. People generally only knows the expenses of their daughter's club, and to mention that would reduce their anonymity. Furthermore, many clubs have been increasing prices each year, but at differing rates, so last year's numbers may not help. Also, to accurately compare, you have to look at (a) whether summer/winter training/leagues are mandatory and at additional cost, (b) how much do mandatory uniform pieces cost [you'd be surprised at how much that can vary from team to team], (c) how many tournaments are included and how many are at additional cost, including how many are out of state and require stay-to-play costs. Some clubs will provide most of that info at tryouts, but some will not make it available until you get an offer. In general, though, the difference between the costs is usually not so significant that you will end up making your decision based upon that difference anyway.- EE
I think I need to clarify things as a PDA NOVA father.this is my second child playing for PDA from the south and my first daughter was the number 1 player in the region and currently plays at RUTGERS, the state university of NJ.I would like to ask my fellow NOVA parents to not engage with people who wish to slander the great PDA tradition......Now onto the facts:PDA CRUSH, which now are all freshman in college had 17 D1 players on its roster.We were the number 1 or 2 ranked team in the state all 4 years of high school,basically splitting matches with our north counterpart, the CELTIC.If the best players from the south all congregated to the south,they would without question get the exposure they need when college showcase comes along in 3 short years.I feel bad for many parents playing for these other clubs who are making promises to them that they simply can't keep.I witnessed first hand friends of mine bring their kid to a college showcase playing on a different club,only to find out they aren't even on the main complex.In the south we will be adding another turf field and futsal courts this summer.As south jersians we have to get out of the mindset of being the best team in south jersey and start thinking on a wider scope.My job as a parent is to put my children in the best possible situation to succeed and nothing more.I also think if people were less anonymous they wouldn't make such outrageous statements.PDA is the number 1 rated girls soccer club in America and when you are at showcases the schools flock to teams in powder blue jersies.FACT
oops I logged in under my daughters account....oh well nothing to hide,and just stating the facts
That's great you are very happy about the club Joe. But maybe you can ask your other parents to stop criticizing all the other clubs. No one seems to claim PDA isn't a great club. No need to come on here weekly to sing your praises and degrade the other teams. You folks start trash-blogging from the field when you win. When you lose, you are remarkably quiet. Madison and Reilly are great players. Be happy and humble.
Ghetto soccer has nothing to do with being a rasicst it saying the type of soccer is hack soccer...so check urself n understand the comment only a unsure person would take it to that level grow up move on u read into thing to much...u don't have to be black to be ghetto
Why do you equate dirty soccer with ghettos, which anyone can agree refers to a minority neighborhood in modern times. Last white one I know of was the Warsaw Ghettos in WWII, but enough of the history lesson. Why not just say "dirty" soccer? How do you know soccer in a ghetto is dirty soccer? Why would you assume and equate the two? You must admit you have a problem before you can cure your problem.Please ask Meathead to explain this to you while Edith grabs you a beer. Maybe Lionel can take you to play soccer with his friends.
You are right,let me clarify my statement.PDA Nova parents please stop posting negative comments about other clubs on this blog.When SJEB beat us 2 weeks ago,I walked up to several parents and congratulated them on an excellent game .The Barons outplayed us and played with great tenacity.That being said,I have the big picture in mind and know what it takes to get to the big stage and who can and cannot get us there.When we left the Barons,it had nothing to do with any issues at SJE.JT is a great trainer who puts all of his energy into his craft.We left because we felt the time was right to bring our daughter to the same club that had done so much for our older daughter PDA.thanks,Joe Tiernan
Bravo Joe. Well said. Thank you!
yall need to get a life
South.... Just stop. Please. You are degrading a name our daughters have worked really hard to build. Thank you.
joe, pda nova parents should be furious. you make ugly and deceptive posts all week long and now you tell them not to, bit hypocritical don't you think? fyi-your posts are easy to pick out, try a few spaces between sentences once in a while.you know what it takes to get to the big stage? if this is an example of your way to get there then...oops sorry..just threw up in my mouth.you are right on one thing - PDA is a great club, but you sir give them a very bad name. no bravo joe, close the laptop or turn off the cell phone and fade away for a while.
couple things and then I will never post on here again: 1-yesterday was the first time I ever posted on this blog,but it is easy for someone to call me out and remain anonymous.2-One thing you can always count on from the north is a demeaning comment.I stumbled upon this blog when I googled PDA tryout dates for next year,if you know me at all anonymous you would know that I put it all out there and would say the same to your face,maybe next time our 2 teams meet you can walk up and introduce yourself.I am a friendly guy,but I assure you that any comments I make here or anywhere else will never be made anonymously.-Joe Tiernan
Wow Joe. Coach O'Neill must love the way your degrading PDA and RUTGERS too. Mazel tov.
I think I degraded neither.how so?
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