Saturday, February 28, 2015

Academy Soccer

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190 comments:

Anonymous said...

One month to the new state of the art facilities!
My prediction is that they will use this promise to keep players from leaving and recruit more for 2015-2016.

Dangling the carrot again.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA facilities are still in planning/approval stages. I have seen the plans, they are real, no BS. Choose not to believe if you wish.

Anonymous said...

Life is back to normal now that the Tri-State academies teams are all back in action this weekend.

Anonymous said...

.....and I have a bridge to sell you.....but first your 3k....and pipe dream

Anonymous said...

Njcsa is so desperate they run "free" junior academies for youngsters after no paying clients sign up and then boast "sold out". So sad

Anonymous said...

What's the matter, no more re-runs of Duck Dynasty on tonight? Well you can always log in and bash NJCSA!

Anonymous said...

The plans for the state of the art facility are there but,people gonna wait 3-5 years for project to be done,keep signing those checks njcsa parents,well done njcsa

Anonymous said...

Finally soccer is back, so here are some academy scores from the weekend.

U14
PDA 3 X 2 Match Fit

U14
Cedar Stars 2 x 2 Red Bulls

Anonymous said...

The USSDA is mandating that academy teams are free but where is the money coming from?

Anonymous said...

For the teams like PDA, Cedar Stars, Continental, Westchester that have loads of teams, they are just going to increase their fees and that extra increase will cover the cost for the USSDA teams.

Anonymous said...

PDA U15/16 2 - NJCSA 1
PDA U17/18 2 - NJCSA 2

Wow, from all the flack I read on this website I thought PDA was supposed to win these games by a wide margin.

Anonymous said...

You can park the bus and manage not to get crashed for a game or two. But your long term record speaks for the quality of work done by a soccer organization.

The reality is that NJCSA is a waste of your talent (first and foremost). Then comes everything else, including waste of your time and money. The club is run by people that do not know how to teach anything to kids, have no skills in managing a club and are totally disorganized.

They will continue to exist as long as they manage to "cheat" US Soccer and keep the existing Academy status; Parents still pay so that they can say that their kids play for an "academy" team.

The only real academy teams in NJ are Red Bulls and PDA. They are managed professionally and they are actually teaching their kids something.

Even club teams (e.g. PDA and other top NJ club teams) are much better than the so called NJCSA "Academy" teams.

Anonymous said...

I agree that NJCSA has its problems, but 2-2 vs. PDA is not parking the bus.

Give credit where it is due.

Anonymous said...

The simple fact is if college soccer is the reason y you are at Ana academy you are wasting you money at njcsa. No colleges even look at them and their name on your resume is meaningless. Just look at their "signing day" news flash. Playing at njcsa had nothing to do with it. If u want a bit more competitive atmospher than travel soccer it is fine, but do mistake it for the elite academies

Anonymous said...

NJCSA 13/14 also lost to PDA 4-0 this weekend. And the 99 NEPAL Team lost 6-0 just before break.
Speaking with some parents, it seems PDA teams played down to their opponent with bench players to get them some playing time this weekend.

Anonymous said...

Who cares about playing in college. It is about having fun.

Anonymous said...

The problem at NJCSA is not the fact that they don't have good training. From talking to some people, It is the fact that the coaches there are careless and do whatever it takes to have games late so they could enjoy their weekend, and pushing practices to dates that fit them best. I even heard that they have barely trained in the winter and are trying to squish two practices into one by putting 2000s and 2001s together. To improve as an academy, someone at the club needs to take the initiative and that will show the kids that they should take soccer serious. If it's about having fun and not playing college soccer, why would you pay all that money to play for an academy that everyone talks badly about? From watching NJCSA in their game against PDA, it seems that they had some individuals that know soccer very well and have a tremendous amount of technical ability. I noticed that the team revolves around fast strong players who know nothing of soccer and just kick it up. I garuntee if from the start they played their smart and skilled players and not define their style of play by using stronger and faster players who lose the ball after they just take it, the score would have been much much closer.

Anonymous said...

How many practices per week do the Academies hold? Would be nice to compare. Also, are there days just for fitness, or technique work, etc. Can parents from PDA, NJCSA, Cedar Stars, Red Bull provide some input?

Anonymous said...

Agreed with the Training comment above. I went to a few practices in the fall to see if the fit was right for my son. NJCSA generally has 2 or 3 practices a week which basically consists of 8v8 games on a quarter or half of the field. No technical or tactical training from what I saw. From the practices I have seen, it's just 'faster, faster - move the ball faster'. And if there is an opportunity to practice on the weekend, often, the coaches are busy with other teams so there are no make up or extra sessions. This I have been told by other player parents.

The winter training is a combined team practice when they can get the SJV bubble - which is probably once a week on average. Their lack of training is very apparent in the winter futsal tournaments as compared to other academies. This I witnessed firsthand being at the same tournaments/

And yes, cries of 'send it' do predominate throughout games. It's a shame because there are quality players - except they do seem to select/play bigger kids who have little ball skill.

I guess it is what you get when you have trainers who opted out from the Red Bulls. That speaks volumes.

Anonymous said...

8v8 isn't a bad thing and neither is telling them to play the ball quicker. The only time when it's bad is when ur playing in a huge space and aren't resricted. Small spaces improve players technical ability. The thing is from what I've heard NJCSA don't even do that either.

Anonymous said...

Agreed.
8v8, 5v5 and 3v3 can be very helpful in technical training.
The issue at NJCSA, in my opinion from what I've seen, is that the 8v8 training doesn't translate over to the 'big field' for them. I've heard grumbles from parents as well that it's a 'hurried' 8v8 training- meaning they are basically playing hot potato with the ball with no comprehension of tactics - like moving off the ball or creating space and creating/building movement down the field. Hence, the kick and run games they play on the weekends. There seems to be no comprehension or soccer IQ, if you will. And by no means is this a reflection of the players, but that of the coaching staff to educate the players.
At NJCSA there is also no set play training either on the defensive or offensive side, no defensive training/positioning and certainly no shooting or finishing training.
I do like small sided training - but you would think at the Academy level it would be worked in with all other training aspects of the game.
To me it's just laziness on the part of the coaches/trainors. A daddy coach can put 16 players on a small field and tell them to play quicker without teaching them the finer points of the game.

Anonymous said...

But somehow the NJCSA players with the "low soccer IQ" and "little ball skills" managed to "hot potato" their way to a 2-2 tie with the PDA U17/18s.

People mention that the NJCSA parents just want to say their kids are on an Academy team. I believe the PDA parents want to say their kids are on "one of the only real NJ academies" and ignore such results as "playing down to the level of their opponent."

Obviously there was something more going on in the U17/18 game than what is reported here by the PDA followers.

I heard from several NJCSA parents that NJCSA played at the level of PDA for most if not all of the match.

Any game recaps from folks who have not drank the PDA cool aid?

Anonymous said...

1:33
Cedar Stars practices are 4 days a week in the fall and spring. No fitness days but technical and tactical training is administered all the time. In the winter we practice 3 to 4 days a week not including the fact that we usually play a futsal or indoor game, just about every weekend. The weeks we practice 4 days in the winter, one of those days is for fitness, with a specialized fitness instructor.

Anonymous said...

PDA Cool Aid? There is simply no comparison b/w the two clubs on any metric: Facilities, coaches, training, college attendance, players, national team members, parent/player satisfaction. The list goes on and on.

Anonymous said...

It's obvious you cannot add humility to that list...

Anonymous said...

11:54
You are making PDA sound so great, but you are the same parent that when the Red Bulls use to have open tryouts you were the first one on the line.
Come on now, PDA is good club and they have proven themselves, but to sit here and say that you are the all might academy, I think that is little too much!!!

Anonymous said...

Give Cedar Stars Academy a few years
to grow and they will be just as good as PDA.

Anonymous said...

With that last comment, why cannot NJCSA develop into a top academy with the new ownership and new Director of Operations?

Anonymous said...

NJCSA u15 pre-academy only practices twice a week... there is a 3rd practice but only for goalies.

Anonymous said...

While Cedar Stars does own NJCSA, their goal is building up their own academy that was started from a solid foundation. NJCSA was pushed to the back burner but over time, maybe it can be improved. Cedar Stars hand-picked their own coaches and are carefully building their academy..
NJCSA's coaches and structure have been part of that organization before they took over. It's not easy to change.

Anonymous said...

By the time you are 17/18 years old nobody cares about academy. Everyone knows where they are going in the near future. We have to compare the 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 year olds. What most people don't understand is that even though NJCSA have the fast, strong players that they "consider their best players", they were constantly demolished by PDA. Kick and run and parking a bus doesn't always end in a tie.

Anonymous said...

2:39
So Mr. PDA you are the only good Academy around, I see. I recall when you were loosing some games to another academy in South/Central Jersey a few years back. Were/Are they a horrible academy too???

Anonymous said...

All you have to do is look at the number and quality of "college signing day" players for each of the clubs. That will tell you what college coaches and outsiders -- not the parents of the children that play at each -- think of each Academy (coaches, players, history of Academy, etc.). The Answer is pretty clear from that what they think of the clubs.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA had a "free" clinic at the atlantic club (150k+ household income fitness) ...it was a marketing idea to attract more parents who could afford their ridiculous fees....lets be honest these academies dont nithing until its cost free down to u8..by the time a kid gets to u13 most likely his parents have been paying a bill to get him there...these are 2nd hand athletes...the real stars of youth soccer are playing basketball but thise wont make the switch with their 10 year old to soccer if it cost 2k year...

Anonymous said...

10:40
What are you talking about. I could not understand half of what you are saying. :-)))

Anonymous said...

so has Tab dropped out of NJCS since the name change?

Anonymous said...

No, saw him at a practice two weeks ago.

Anonymous said...

USSDA teams should not be so focused on results. They should be developing youth players for the future. Who's going to care in 10 yrs. what team won at age 12-17? I think that's the biggest problem in ussda. When you're all about winning, development slides. How many talented youth players quit the game because they don't develop physically fast enough and feel discouraged because they never play in games? Anyone who thinks the psychological side of development isn't as important as everything else is mistaken.

Anonymous said...

You have a good point, but I don't think it will ever change. The USSDA has been set up to revolve around winning. A youth coach once told me that academies in other countries don,t care who wins at the youth level. Half the time they don't even keep score. It's all about development.

Anonymous said...

I absolutely agree. The USSDA my son plays for actually does ignore winning/losing (and as you can imagine, some years 'results' are much better than others.) The club seems to have enough player successes to get past some of the usual problems that would likely otherwise result. But our culture overall isn't changing, parents/players want wins, and if they don't come, if the coaching staff doesn't make that happen, there are so many negative results to both the clubs and to the players. When you look at the number of talented players who haven't yet physically developed on these Academies (as the 12:46 poster mentioned,) you can see just how much talent is squeezed out in favor of physical domination, and this is only one of the problems (I won't even begin on playing style and how detrimental those choices are in the development of players when made for the wrong reasons.) The short-sightedness of our system is mind boggling, and it certainly seems clear that won't be changing anytime in the near future.

Anonymous said...

Coaches are always under pressure to have good results. They must balance player development with winning. Not easy.

Anonymous said...

My son's USSDA coach says that it is not about winning it is about development. That is funny, because I am not seeing any development being done. Not with my son or any other player on the team.

Anonymous said...

HEY!
Today is the day NJCSA opens their new state of the art facilities!

Or maybe not. 12 -18 months has sadly come and gone without nary a mention. perhaps by 2020.

Keep up the great work!

Anonymous said...

LOL. There is simply no accountability for their NJCSA lies and promises to parents. If this were a Wall Street firm they would be under indcitment....But dont ask questions, your child will then be blacklisted. But that may actually be a blessing because then you will be leave club.

Anonymous said...

To all the NJCSA haters who are still at that academy,
I'd really like to know why you are still there. You must like something they are doing if you stay, It's not as if there are no other options.

Anonymous said...

There is always SO much venting about NJCSA. There are issues elsewhere too, but at some point if the issues are intolerable to you, then is it really worth staying in the USSDA for that? It may be I assume, since it's hard to say just how much that may or may not help a particular player who wants to play in college, but isn't this what it really comes down to with all the complaining about NJCSA? If it's that horrendous, but your player is staying there in hopes that having academy status behind them will help w college (I wish I could think of another possible reason anyone would think to stay in a program they feel is awful) than maybe make a personal decision to stop paying attention as much as possible until your kid is done putting in their time. If that's not what's got you staying, but it's such a terrible program, then why not leave so you and your players can get on with your lives elsewhere?

Anonymous said...

All this is pretty funny.
One would certainly hope that the thrashing is not from NJCSA parents as how would they expect the club to draw top talent if they are thrashing their own?
Then again, I would not be surprised. It is definitely a way to protect their own kid's spot on the roster. For wat reason, I have no idea.

Anonymous said...

The problem with NJCSA is simply that they hold themselves out and represent themselves as something they are not: An Elite Soccer Club. They promise and charge for a service they are and have always been unable to deliver. In representing and selling that they are something more than the mediocore, at best, club team they are, they feed on the dreams, wallets and naivte of players and parents. The backlash on these boards and sidelines is inevitable and will not change as the same representations are made to naive and unknowing new players and parents with each new season and year.

Anonymous said...

So really the only crime here is a parent paying too much for a service that is advertised as being more. That gripe can be summed up in one sentence and is probably understood by us all. Add something constructive.

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Anonymous said...

9:01.
So you are telling me that RB, Philly, PDA, Match Fit, CSA, Continental are all developing players. Come on now, the whole academy systems is pay to play and players are not being developed.. If NJCSA was winning nobody would be in here complaining.
I have heard complains from various parents in different academies. It is all the same everywhere. The only reason the other academies manage to stay off the radar is because they win a few more games then NJCSA. BY the way, I am not NJCSA parent.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. the sooner people realize this statement is true and that there IS NO good system at work here, the happier (or not) they'll be. (quote from above post)
"...the whole academy systems is pay to play and players are not being developed."

Anonymous said...

Looks like NJCSA "State of Art Facility" is renting unused open space at the Atlantic Club. Nice.

Anonymous said...

USSDA needs to understand that physical dominance will bring winning results to the youth level but it won't work at the adult level, and winning at the adult level is what matters.Does the USSDA even care about adult soccer? Most of the players just play in college and college teams just play like high school team.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA is a joke. Poor academy results are a given, but have you seen the results of their club teams? These are kids paying three grand a year to train in an academy style training environment but cannot even compete with low level maps town teams. PDA and Gotschee club teams on the other hand seem to do very well.

Why such a big difference?

It seems the entire organization is failing these kids.

Anonymous said...

I guess the parents have a lot of money to waste and they get to brag about their child making NJCSA. Don't they know that they will take anyone? A college coach might be impressed by the name but they still want to see the child knows how to play.
KOOL-AID! Save your money for college tuition.

Anonymous said...

NJSA Coaches had thirty four kids to one coach at practice this past week. The 2000 have been training with 2001 which makes 2000 move at a slower rate on field. SNNNAAAAIILLLLSSSS. they have not improved but in the past year they have been staggering and disgraced on the field. DOC tells them they should be ashamed because his older team won with a man down and this team is an embarrassment. if you play raquetball with head coach you get to suggest your position and get additional playing time on field. This goes for golf as well. Boys get rostered when they have been out on an injury all week and NOT at practice"just in case" they could play while others sit and wait to be given a chance or dont get rostered. they have two boys that can do no wrong. Praised endlessly and never sit out even if they miss practice. 100 percent playing time no matter what. One is reckless and gets red card after red card. no discipline for playing recklessly instead patted on the back as if that is a good way to play. big kids favored over small. DOC says to kids at half time that his own son is the only one playing hard. He should not even be coaching a team with his own child on it. His son is favored for playing time. NJSA only plays a defense game against all teams. Coach does not put faith in midfield to make it happen. coach lines strong midfielders with slow midfielders and then sits back and just wants the team to play defense. NJSA defensive superstar is patted on the back over and over in front of other players for kicking the ball up the field. No style of play. Player told not to pass it to a specific midfielder. If he is not doing his job then take him off! dont just kick up! ATTENTION NEW OWNER GEORGE!!!! read this, swallow it, ask the parents if they are even slightly happy with level of coaching and practice. The only time things are stepped up is if George, Tab, or an Academy Rep is at practice. Simple to say if not happy leave but when so many talented boys are at risk and have great potential but need great leadership then saying just leave if not happy is not the solution. solve problems in management!!!! Parents please post if you agree!!!! This level of coaching, direction, and playing needs to be changed.

Anonymous said...

NJSA humiliated today by Philly. Midfield slow. Defense risky. Strikersa so small against Philly defenders.

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Anonymous said...

NJSA Tryout minded Run!

Anonymous said...

NJCSA U15 pre-academy had a great game against PDA yesterday. Final score was 0-0 and both teams played well against each other. It was enjoyable to watch.

Anonymous said...

9:23-- Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Anonymous said...

With NYFC starting U14 academy - and presumably carrying that group forward to U16/U18 as they get older - Does this lead USSF to separate the DA into MLS only divisions? How does the NYFC academy impact RedBulls academy and its potential player pool? Does that help/hurt non-mls academies?

Anonymous said...

I heard US Training Center was held last night at PDA for the 2000 and 2001 age group. Does anyone know which teams and players were represented there?

Anonymous said...

NJCSA---NOT

Anonymous said...

4:17 Those are some pretty damning allegations against NJCSA/any coach, let alone the DOC of an Academy, if in name only, Club. If true y dont the parents/players have the issues addressed by the USSDA or the owners of club?. It seems pretty egregious and therea are avenues for it.

Anonymous said...

Parents who have addressed concerns at NJCSA in the past have had their kids cut after try outs, if on the lower tier or had playing time diminished, if in the middle. Top tiered players have no issue as they play full games and all parents want is exposure for them.
Many naive parents put up with the DOC because they believe that coming over from the RB, he must have some knowledge of training and perhaps college connections which he continually boasts about. Highly doubtful though as players over the past few years haven't really knocked it out of the park with respect to college acceptance since his arrival. And that the fact that the RB terminated this particular DOC leaves a lot to be questioned. Why would RB let him go if he is such a superior DOC?
It could be also that many kids do not make PDA/RB or even Matchfit and parents feel at least they are still with an academy.

Anonymous said...

1:11/11:09
As per NJCSA they did have a player with the 2000 age group which is the group that I mostly payed attention to.
AS per the training center for the 2000s, it was mostly RB, fallowed by, Match Fit and PDA, then BW Gottschee. The rest Cedar Stars, Delco, NJCSA and PA Classics each were represented with one player. If you know and fallow that age group, it was the same usual suspects from each team on the field, all very good players.

Anonymous said...

Njcsa,bla bla ,bla,by the way no facility,Holmdel shut it down,player development,yeah OK,the only thing being developed is the money in their bank account,nice job njcsa,,,,,,

Anonymous said...

All you NJCSA hatters, what you need to understand is that there is still people out there that want to play academy, whether is because they did not make PDA/RB/Philly or they want to be there because it is closer to their house. People are still going to join them regardless of what you write in here. For those parents who are not happy there and keep venting in this blog, just leave already, oh I forget, you want your kid to play academy and that is the only place that will take your son. By the way I am not an NJCSA parent, just someone that thinks this topic is getting old.

Anonymous said...

But don't think it's better with the MLS academies. A current player for an MLS team comes to our academy practices on a regular basis, was here this past Tuesday. The father kills the MLS coaches and training sessions just like the NJSA parents post on this site. His son is very good and will probably be playing in Italy soon. My point is don't think your academy is the only one that is run poorly.

Anonymous said...

Parent talking bad about MLS academy; kid going to Italy. We all know who that family is!!! LOL.

Anonymous said...

New things happening at NJCSA/CSA. Keep your eyes and ears open.

Anonymous said...

Looks like NJ Turnpike/GSP will be collecting some extra EZpass tolls from u15/16 NJCSA parents.

Anonymous said...

Ohhhhh! New things happening at NJSA!
First it was Tab's total involvement. Next it was the hiring of the RB doc to build a great academy. Then it was the Cedar Stars merger with state if the art facilities and now this vague announcement.
More of the annual carrot dangling prior to tryouts to get more kids to come and prevent more kids from leaving.
What a joke.

Nick G said...

Who or what is the NJCSA? How does it compare to the NJ Rush? The Rush "clubs", both in Central and South Jersey, just had open tryouts for the fall. Without identifying which club/team I interacted with, let me say that it was troubling. It isn't the tryout or the fee (which I already knew) if selected for the team. Instead it was the continual invocation of "the Rush way" almost to the point of absurdity. The coaches substituted "the Rush" for the pronouns "I" and "we" in conversations discussing philosophy and policies. The coaches didn't talk about their soccer backgrounds which was unusual to say the least. Other coaches I've dealt with have droned on and on about their promising career cut short by an unfortunate ACL injury. In direct contrast these coaches lauded the Rush organization and all they have done for youth soccer. Very weird, almost like a cult.

Anonymous said...

You will find out soon enough about NJCSA/CSA happenings.

Anonymous said...

No one really cares anymore.
NJCSA - CSA or whatever you call yourselves now is insignificant here.
Go troll a MAPS or NJYSA board for poaching wanna be academy parents. You can build a monstrosity of a stadium but it will not make the training or the attitude of the admin or coaches any better.

Anonymous said...

2:22, If no one cares anymore, please stop commenting.

Anonymous said...

The Rush organization provides a high level, standardized training that has proven successful in player development. They select a several clubs per state with whom to affiliate and implement their training methods and branding across the club. Both the local club and the national Rush organization benefit.

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Anonymous said...

Ant thoughts on the new PDA Shore boys program?

Anonymous said...

1:02
This is an academy blog,unless PDA Shore is going to supply the academy team with some really good players, it does not matter. Everybody is now making mergers. Match Fit/Montclair, NJCSA/CSA, PDA/Shore and etc...

Anonymous said...

1:02. If girl yes, if boy no. Stick with Pda headquarters for boy as that is where quality boy training/coaches are, not at shore.

Anonymous said...

Girl's US Development academy does not exist. Maybe in the future.

Anonymous said...

Best academy for U16 girls?

Anonymous said...

U16G Soccer Blog

Anonymous said...

Could you explain further about the comments on PDA shore????

Anonymous said...

I don't know anything about PDA shore except there are no academy teams there. They may have a good girls program but academy teams are boys u14,u16,u18 at PDA north.

Anonymous said...

PDA Shore is 2 years new to the area. The teams have plenty of talent with dedicated coaches. It still needs to prove it's worth because it's fairly new,but it's certain it shouldn't take very long with the training, team standings and the talent I see coming from PDA Shore already. PDA north didn't become successful over night....food for thought

SDFC said...

For 2015-16 Soccer Domain Football Club (SDFC) is creating a new u16 team for competition and showcasing. Since it's inception in 2009, SDFC (www.sdfc.us) has a rich tradition of preparing it's players (and families) for college through development and support on and off the field. We feel that this age group provides an opportunity to follow the path set by the SDFC Gauchos (high school class of 2014) and currently with the SDFC Rangers (high school class of 2017) who are currently ranked number 2 in Region 1 & number 1 in New Jersey, and third Nationally according to Gotsoccer.

We will be hosting our first tryout on Thursday May 21st (8-9:30pm) at Newark Academy, Livingston.

SDFC has identified Gary Adair as the potential coach for this age group. Gary holds the NSCAA Premier Diploma and a USSF National ‘A’ License and currently works with the u18 Force team and the u16 Rangers. The Rangers are currently regarded as a top National level team and have already qualify for the USYS National Championships in Tulsa, Oklahoma this summer. Apart from his SDFC work, Gary is the Assistant Head Coach at Manhattan College (Division 1 School - MAAC).

For further information, please email kieran@sdfc.us

Anonymous said...

Who cares about SDFC, this is an academy blog. No one is going to leave their academy team to be in a SDFC showcase team. LMAO!!!

Anonymous said...

any new tryout info?

Anonymous said...

NJCSA is a joke, we went down to the town of Plainfield with our u10 Academy team and we tied 2-2 ( we got lucky as they are a much stronger team than ours ) , in Indoor both our Academy teams got torn apart by the same Elite Plainfield team 1st game 14-2 2nd game 8-0 ... their field sucks but yet they have the right touch, tactics that not only beat us but other academies as well, my point is why am I paying close to 3K when I live 10 minutes away from where the Elite SC Plainfield practice and they charge what? 20% if that much of the cost for this, a couple more weeks of this and you know my son will be out of there.

Anonymous said...

You're right but I find it really upsetting that college coaches and others are impressed by the name NJCSA. Just because a player is there, there's an assumption that he's a great player. In reality, Elite SC Plainfield has better players but are college coaches interested?

Anonymous said...

College Coaches?!?!

Who are you kidding.

First off - College coaches do not go to watch NJCSA at any showcases or season matches. Unless they are watching from their cars, I have not seen any.
Secondly, look at their list of graduates. The schools they are getting into are similar/worse than any good varsity high school player gets into.

Thanks for the financial contribution - cha-ching!

Anonymous said...

May 28, 2015 at 11:08 AM

Odd post. Number one, there is no u10 academy team, so you must be talking about the youth clubs that play in MAPS.

Number two, NJCSA has not played Plainfield this season U10 MAPS. The MAPS U10 results show a NASA United team tying Plainfield 2 - 2. So either you don't know what team you are on or you are stirring the pot...

Anonymous said...

NJSA/NJCSA is a train wreck. But for TR it would have been stripped of academy status years ago. Anyone who can leaves after they become educated. Run, Dont walk

Anonymous said...

Yea, run, don't walk. But run to where? Except for the maybe 30 kids that make PDA/RBA for each age group, where do the other kids go? Run away from NJCSA for NJX or some other club team - I'm not so convinced. Yea, its a lot cheaper...

Anonymous said...

There is an assumption by many that NJCSA has something, I don't know what. Sure, they have academy status but their teams have mediocre or poor results, they have poor facilities (with empty promises of state of the art facilities being built,) and they charge more than most other clubs. Why do so many parents keep their kids there? Is it the fact that they're academy? Must be, even though they're broken.

Anonymous said...

Everyone is quick to bash NJCSA, but no one ever answers the question: Other than PDA/RBA, go where?

Anonymous said...

Academies currently have a monopoly of a very diluted product.

Over the next few years, only the strongest will survive and there will then be more of a true system where most players play high school / club and only the special players with the most potential will play academy, as the system is truly intended to be.

There just aren't enough well funded academies and good players to support the current system.

Anonymous said...

I think that the only real academies are the MLS academies. Club academies are mostly club teams. Many people think that any PDA or NJCSA or CSA or World class, etc. team is an academy team.

Anonymous said...

Philly Union and NYCFC have several feeder clubs who send over their best players. Eventually, all elite clubs will be feeder clubs for MLS academies, That's just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I can understand the thought process behind this MLS comment BUT let's not forget about what happened with the RB last year. There were many talented players that were overlooked . A few ended up at neighboring clubs . i.e. Met Oval, Gottschee, and CSA. Gotta he currently ranked 12 (up from 17) in the country , CSA 6 ( from7) and RB 1 . After a few results the last few weeks those gaps should narrow. Plus these kids are see 70min of playing time dont think they would see that on RB roster.

Anonymous said...

What about FC Copa that trains at Rutgers?

Anonymous said...

What about them? Not academy.

Anonymous said...

5;54
Where are those teams ranked? I thought academy teams weren't ranked.

Anonymous said...

Then there's the ongoing problem of quality and talent loss. -crappy coaches, poor trainers, scouts that got their positions for simply ridiculous reasons, people in charge for all the wrong reasons, under qualified parent-coaching, the list goes on and on. -so many ways for too many who are not what they should be to be selecting and working with what are supposed to be the most talented in the country. I love reading early articles about how the Academy was going to help address the problem of talent being missed in this country or how it would help retain talent often lost by the age of 14 that was too often replaced by those with early physical development. What a joke. I agree with the one poster saying over the next few years only the MLS Academies will survive, that seems pretty clear to be the future in some configuration or another. But I agree far more with the response about how much talent is being overlooked vs how only the special players w the most potential will remain and the rest will play HS and club (the example was talent being overlooked at RB.) When you think about the amount of talent that some very powerful and very small soccer nations put out and the quality of their many pro teams and academies vs their populations, which are minuscule in comparison to any large city in the US (even after taking football, bball, etc into account for those who want to make that argument,) there should be (and surely is) enough talent to support all the current Academy teams in the country and then some. There is a serious problem with overlooking and discarding talent in this country, and the USSDA hasn’t changed that. My personal opinion is that it isn't going to change ANY time in the near future.

Anonymous said...

If the academy system exists to develop the most talented players, why aren't all the players getting the same amount of playing time and game starts? This is saying it's more about winning than development. If you look at the heights and weights of the players you will see that the more physically developed players are rewarded, the late developers are overlooked aren't given much of a chance.

NJ Stallions Academy said...

NJ Stallions Academy U11 Boys will be playing in the NEPAL (North East Pre-Academy league) in the 2015-16 season.

We still have time for players to tryout, including a session this Thursday 11th June.

To arrange an evaluation or if you have any questions, please contact Head Coach, Paul Nash at: paul_nash@outlook.com
www.njstallions.com

Anonymous said...

So, now it looks like the consolidation has begun at the u15/16 academies in NJ. NJSA adding to its already large roster by also taking in players from CSA and MF and in some cases players from PDA as well. Good luck trying to make that work!

Anonymous said...

Red Bulls V CSA : Did anyone catch the Pre-Academy Final this past weekend ? Heard CSA up 2-0 with a missed PK? Overtime no score PK 5-4 to Red Bulls . Love some feedback heard CSA was the better team on the day really controlled the mid field BUT a tad unlucky.

Anonymous said...

Everything you heard was correct. Cedar Stars were the better team,they outplayed the Red Bulls. Interesting to see what these two teams will look like next season.

Anonymous said...

How many yellow/red cards does a player need to get before an academy looks at their programs responsibility to protect their opponent? Or look to discipline the player? Someone is going to get seriously hurt in a game or even training. The academy needs to show to all the players that they don't put up with this type of behavior and punish the player. Real punishment,not how they have handled it in the past. I know physical play is part of the game but when a player is continually excessive, it must be addressed.

Anonymous said...

Heard same thing of NJCSA U15/16. Almost 30 kids on the roster apparently. Good luck getting playing time over there next year.
Cha-Ching!

Anonymous said...

It's a sad fact that many coaches encourage dirty play. They will do anything to win.
It's no coincidence when you see dirty teams from the same club. It's the club's policy. Pretty sad that they teach kids to play like that.

Anonymous said...

PDA royalty can do what he wants including play dirty. What happens when he takes away someone's soccer future?

Anonymous said...

Poor results come from poor development, poor development comes from poor coaching, poor coaching comes from a poorly run organization. People say it's not about winning its about developing but if you are developing your players to win in a high level then you are most likely going to win. If your team does not win then they do not belong in such a competitive league.

Anonymous said...

Winning at the youth level does not equal development. A coach who wants immediate winning results picks the kids who reach physical maturity early and are faster and stronger right now. Most kids catch up in the future and a good coach understands that Those late bloomers may even be better players as adults. So until coaches and clubs prioritize development over winning at he youth level, the us National men's team will never be great.

Anonymous said...

You are correct on the coaches wrong thinking on picking more physical players but I have seen many times(when the coach is actually a smart developer), teams that have no physical attributes demolish physical teams even in the academy league because they understand the more efficient way to play soccer, in the long run, which is keeping the ball on the ground and mainly move it through the midfield until there is an opening to slip it through. There are times to dribble and there are times to pass but in my opinion there are never times to kick it up. Yes, you may say "would u rather lose the ball up the field or in your own half?" but in reality the way to learn the right soccer is to never kick it up. I would rather have an attempted pass or dribble then kick it up. And again, there are players such as pirlo who is known as a passing master who plays long ball but they are all for a PURPOSE. Many academy teams who play long don't play it long for a purpose. And even if you watch Pirlo's games he is constantly moving the ball throughout the back and the midfield. It is rare he plays a long pass and he only plays one when he is certain it will be beneficial.

Anonymous said...

It's a good coach who is a smart developer and doesn't write any player off. We need more like that. So parents, do research on your child's coach before you put him on that team. Find out if he values development over winning.

Anonymous said...

What ever happended to "State of Art" facilities at NJCSA. Has any explanation been given?

Anonymous said...

They are waiting for the 30 on each roster to pay the fees to free up some cash.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA will have 30 players in each roster and the team still will suck. They will continue to play the Owner's and the Coach's sons even though their are better players in the bench. They will also continue to play all the kids whose parents are friendly with the Coach or are favorite of DOT. Not a good way to run a club. But they are not the only club that does that. This is soccer in America for you.

Anonymous said...

you're correct! It sucks. How many talented players are never given the chance due to favoritism?

Anonymous said...

You are much better off playing high school soccer than "Academy" at NJCSA. The place is a joke, no college coaches at all care if u are at NJCSA, all coaches know it is a shit show there.

Anonymous said...

http://www.hamiltongirlssoccer.com/Default.aspx?tabid=827440

can somebody tell me what this means, are they an academy now?
rush way coaching methodology? , what qualifications are there coaches?



Anonymous said...

im an NJCSA parent of many years. Ive read these NJCSA negative comments above. They are absolutely correct. NJCSA is poorly managed. At every level possible it accepts any player with a check...no matter that the play cant play. This dumbs down the training experince for the truly technical and talented players. The numbers of players at traiings are so large that evan a talented trainer is ineffective. This then transaltes onto gameday field where the athletes defend with their lives and do park the bus. The technical players get no respect and the coaches have no faith in those players to posess the ball and play the proper game. If youd like evidence of NJCSA ability to develop players, look no further than this upcoming seasons pre acad and acad rosters. only a minuscule amount of home grown players have made the teams when the Acadmey years roll around. CSA sent a bunch of technical players to the tryout and showed that two tocuh soccer with high soccer IQ players is the way to play and is the indication of proper training. NJCSA certainly has its share of solid technical players... but they have no future at NJCSA and should look elsewhere for development and fair opportunity... and ENJOYMENT of the game. It is not there at any age group for NJCSA. As far as parents just wanting to say their kids play for academy... i think thats insulting. like all parents, we want whats best for our kids and put them in that situation... the parents are told/fooled into the idea that an acdemy is the best place for their kids. and most NJCSA parents realize that their players are not good enough to be on PDA,CSA,RedBUlls, Union, but believe that Academy gets a pathway to College. Its not an ego thing. Any ego is squaashed at NJCSA after the first year of 0 wins and 20 losses. Its a parent buying into a program as pitched by very persuasive arguments that prey on parental ignorance. the PDA,CSA,RB,UNION program is better than NJCSA without question. To argue otherwise, seems silly. but rather than argue that... i think its important to objectively evaluate all of these program. And honest parent interclub discussions create a great information base for parents new to the game.

Anonymous said...

'As far as parents just wanting to say their kids play for academy... i think thats insulting. like all parents, we want whats best for our kids and put them in that situation..'

Why is this insulting? If the parents believe that this place is the best for their kids but continue to put up with the list of injustices provided your kids, how can this be nothing but the truth? So parents put up with poor training, large rosters, no development because they believe this is the best place to be? To be for what? Other than a parent being able to say that my kid is playing for an Academy, I cannot understand why else you would stay.

The truth shouldn't be considered insulting.

Anonymous said...

PDA is no better than njcsa. 1/2 of the u15 academy left.. Wonder why??? It is such a shame where is the player development??? Not there either. All about money...and favoritism..

Anonymous said...

I disagree, they are much better as shown by their style of play against njcsa no denying it

Anonymous said...

The players get better training there no doubt, but there is plenty of favoritism there.

Anonymous said...

6:05pm, Style of play? Is that style fouling? PDA royalty able to do what they want and you claim no favoritism? Very confused on what you see on the pitch. I see a team that is taught to play overly aggressive and dirty.

Anonymous said...

I heard that NYCFC has a new academy. Does anyone know if they will have teams in Academy league starting in the fall?

Anonymous said...

Good post by "July 9, 2015 at 11:25 AM." As an NJCSA parent I do not brag about who my son plays for. In fact, I am a bit embarrassed due to the reputation of the club. So the ego argument is total nonsense.

My son went from a typical town club team to NJCSA. I think he is better off at NJCSA than the town team. The reason I stay at NJCSA is I guess potential. I see no reason why, if they get their act together, they should not be a top notch organization. Of course they are not, and I see from the inside a lot of their problems and how they are not so easy to fix. The hope that CSA management will come in and clean house is prevalent amongst the parents here. I see it happening, but far to slow for my liking.

The main problem I see at NJCSA is player talent level. Lots of mediocre kids. The good kids have to play with the mediocre ones far too long. The talented ones would be better off playing with a higher level of talent across the board. But I don't see a real gaping hole in the quality of coaching. With the kids NJCSA has, it just won't beat RBA/PDA/etc. on a regular basis even if Jose Mourinho is coach.

But lets face it, PDA has PDA South, PDA Shore, etc., so they are just as guilty of the money grab as NJCSA. They have the main PDA squad that excels so that gets them off the hook.

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Anonymous said...

I agree with your response. But as I cannot do the CSA/PDA/RBA trek 3 times a week, I am left with the reality of "where else do I go that is better?" I think they make their living off that, where else are Monmouth/Ocean kids going to go? The only local kids I know who can go up to PDA/CSA are very well off and have moms/dads who can drop everything for junior's soccer practice.

I am actually sick of seeing NJCSA shoot itself in the foot on a consistent basis. Its like if there are 99 right decisions they will pick number 100 which is the wrong one. I have seen many talented kids leave and the poor ones stay. I am a supporter, but even I am one foot out the door.

What would be useful is not NJCSA bashing, but letting everyone know what honest alternatives there are in the area to NJCSA. I'm all ears!

Anonymous said...

I would honestly go look at a competitively ranked town team if NJCSA is your only recourse.

Go see the training. See what the quality of the players and training is. Ask the coach/manager what the team is doing to get the players noticed for college. Do they attend Showcases. Do they travel to out of state tournaments or only do the same old local ones year after year. Do they have a college mentor working with the boys to ensure they are taking the proper steps to getting noticed by colleges. I've seen more college coaches at top ranked town teams than I have at NJCSA games because everyone is trying to find the diamond in the rough who is not at an academy.

I'm sure there is more but you get the drift.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the input!

Anonymous said...

Find a solid club team and play at a good high school program.
Nothing will change.
Sorry, the truth.

Anonymous said...

No one has much of a choice when it comes to high school soccer. My son doesn't like his high school team and doesn't want to play on it. The only other option is an expensive private school.

Anonymous said...

Life's not fair is it?

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Anonymous said...

I have to praise the kids who constantly are put aside due to favoritism and politics and yet still pursue soccer. Those are the players that REALLY love soccer. The players that actually hate it when their daddy's and mommy's get involved to keep them on a team or to start them, they want to earn it themselves and it's a shame that in America that's not possible unless you are physically dominate but those physical guys go no where without technicality and a great soccer brain. Think about the players we would produce without favoritism or worry of physicality. As a parent watching good players out there that don't get chances to show that they are good just kills me. They play bad because they get 5 minutes of playing time but I am certain if they started they would be as confident as can be and play so well. Imagine a soccer world without politics and favoritism.

Anonymous said...

I think it is terrible to give kids 5 minutes of playing time. Why put the kid in at all? What kind of message is the coach sending? I think the coaches are just following the DOT's orders so I don't think you can trust anyone at NJCSA. You have to suck up to the DOT and feed his ego to get anywhere there.

Anonymous said...

Are all the academy teams free now?

Anonymous said...

pre academy isn't

Anonymous said...

Anyone have any info on the new u16 team that NEPAL is adding this year? I heard some of the academies are making teams in this age group? PDA and NJCSA are two of the clubs??

Anonymous said...

I see a lot of njcsa bashing but what about the other academies. PDA for one is not as great as everyone thinks. Practices are so weak and never changing. Same thing week after week. Why did so many boys leave especially from their u15 age group if they were so strong and committed to their players. RB kids get cut by at least 1/2 team every year. It is the same BS everywhere. Parents need to find a good place where their kids are happy and can play. That is what's important.

Anonymous said...

The fact that college team rosters have so many foreign players on them says that college coaches do not have too much faith in our development system.

Anonymous said...

NEPAL teams only go by odd age groups: u13, u15, u17. There's no u16 NEPAL team that I know of; for U16, it would either be an Academy team or a club/EDP team.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA/Cedar Stars hired a new Director of Soccer recently to manage both organizations. What is a Directory of Soccer exactly? Is this the same as Director of Coaching? I'm just wondering what will happen to the current DOC for NJCSA.

Anonymous said...

Help me soccer people. Look, I don't know anything about the ins and outs of soccer clubs. I read blogs and sometimes feel like I drank the magic koolaid and am about to throw up now that I know what's in it. We had our 7 year old try out for pda and she made it. Considering the costs of other extracurricular activities the $2000 total seemed expensive but doable. Now I keep getting things with extra costs. But they don't tell you outright the costs. Can anyone who went thru the club for u10 under give me their costs. My main concern are the fundraisers.

Anonymous said...

Welcome to pay to play! My child played at the local town club until u12. I didn't see any point to a big, expensive, professional club until my son was really enthusiastic about the sport.

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Anonymous said...

CSA is doing fine but NJCSA needs all the help they can get. CSA should just dissolve NJCSA and start over.

Anonymous said...

July 20, 10:10
CSA is not doing fine, where did you get that from? Just go ask the parents over there, how happy they really are. They are both the same organization, and they just hired a director of soccer operations to oversea both teams, that will really fix things (LOL). If don't hear anything from there, that does not mean their aren't issues.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA and CSA are separate organizations with the same owner, Different management and coaching staffs. Maybe they will be one in the future. I don't know what the Director of soccer is supposed to do.

Anonymous said...

The Director of Soccer is the main soccer guy for both organizations, sort of like a director of coaching but higher.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA trying to move their much hyped about facility into Tinton Falls. Rumor has it they offered the town $1 mil so they could build turf fields. NJCSA did not even have the courtesy to discuss with the town soccer club. Class act from a class organization.

Anonymous said...

OMG people, this is a child's sport! We found NJCSA because frankly we were tired of the "daddy coaching" and playing favorites on a club team. Since being with NJCSA, we have experienced all kinds of coaches. We were thrilled by some of the coaches as our son absolutely connected with them and their styles and were less thrilled with others. Like teachers in school, sometimes your child clicks and sometimes not, but one of the great things about being with a large organization that takes coaching seriously, there are always other coaches that your child can connect with and superiors that you can voice concerns to. These teams are not stuck with one coach, who stays with the team, year after year, who may be holding a grudge OR who may not allow your child to grow into their full potential because they see the uncoordinated 9 year old, not the powerful and confident 13 year old. College is about academics people. Soccer is secondary. Thinking otherwise is putting the cart before the horse. Shame on you for focusing on the sport over the education. Soccer should enhance your child, not be the whole picture. The Academy programs provide our children the opportunity to play at higher levels not only on the pitch but in their sense of respect and appreciation for a game that the world sees as THE game. What other sport has Laws, not rules? Tab Ramos is one of the best soccer players of all times and frankly the fact that we see him on TV is inspiring to my son. It moves him to double his efforts on the pitch, as he has a real goal (no pun intended) to strive for. Regarding the facility, we have NEVER been promised a "state of the art facility" by anyone associated with NJCSA or NJSA before that. The coaches have always told us that they don't know the details, period. No one started a try out with "hey, we are glad you are here, we want you to look at the plans for our state of the art facility and hope you will contribute by having your child play for us." They introduced the philosophy of the program as being player development and growth. "Shiny new facility" was not part of the speech. We came to NJSA before the facility was discussed, we have been here during the Holmdel/Colts Neck attempt and we will stay through the Tinton Falls opportunity. If you came for the "state of the art facility" we don't have one. If that's why you're here, you are welcome to stick it out and see where the next chapter goes, but do me a favor, focus on the game, not where it's being played. It's going to be a long year (or more) for you training at Tab's facility and all the other places we go to. If you choose to stay, then invest in the program. If you choose to go, go. You are welcome to go somewhere there is fresh paint and a nice sign out front, I would rather have the better program than the better building. For us, we are ok practicing on borrowed turf and rented fields where we are seeing amazing player development and talented players we are proud to consider our son's peers. We brought our son here to grow a young man in a sport and a program that teaches respect, personal growth and development and pride in teamwork. We chose not to go to a program whose philosophy was "win at all costs." For all the parents who are looking to promote growth and development, NJCSA is for you. If you are of the "win at all costs" variety, we wish you well at another program. We hope you find what you are looking for and that when that does not work out, you consider NJCSA in the future. We will still be here.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad you're happy there but I don't see how you can possibly say they are not trying to win at all costs. Why are they playing some kids 5 min. when others play the entire game?

Anonymous said...

Without having more (or asking for more) information, our experience is as follows: at the younger ages, the boys were expected to play EVERY position on the field and not required to specialize. They were provided with training that taught them how to distribute the ball on a field, literally where to stand and how to move the ball around. Their play time was based on how hard they were trying, NOT their ability levels. As they got older and started to show proficiencies to play in different positions, they were put on the field, and played based on a coach's instructions and they were left on the field, if they followed those instructions. Players were consistently removed from the field (and continue to be) when they do not follow the coach's instructions. Best case scenario is when a coach takes the substitution, talks to the player about what they need to be doing differently/better and then puts them back in. Failure to follow directions results in removal from the field. They are players and they are kids and they need direction. If you look at the ODP requirements, one of the big things they look at is "coachability." If a player is not coachable, they will not learn and they will not grow. Remember also that many of your players do not peak until their late teens or early twenties. NJCSA seeks to grow the player, but they have to follow directions to learn. Again - think like school - this is an education, not a show case. Now, there are leagues (like the summer program Super Y) where the goal absolutely is to win - at all costs - and they were VERY clear when we signed on for the summer program that if your son is not performing, he will not be playing. This is a highly competitive league that goes to finals in Florida in December - not the norm during the school year at all. We knew when we agreed to put him on the team, that he was expected to perform. If we wanted him to play at a more relaxed level and have "game time" for the summer, we would have put him into a less competitive league - which NJCSA offers, or go to another summer select program. There are several in the Monmouth/Ocean area to choose from. No one in the Super Y program ever guaranteed a specific amount of game time for any player on the field. They were brutally honest, at the beginning of the summer, that this was how the team would be run. We chose to have him play anyway, knowing that we might be driving hours at a time to get to the games, only to have him sit the bench. He knew the possibility and chose to do it anyway. I would also add, that it has been our experience that during the school year, the coaches provide written feedback to the players twice a year. This feedback helps us focus him on what he needs to work on and what he is doing well. If we have had a concern, the coach was available by email. Sometimes we liked the response and sometimes it was brutally honest about what needed to be improved upon. By following the instructions given, we saw improvement. Failure to follow directions meant he was not improving. Every time. As I said earlier, there are plenty of opportunities for kids to play soccer. Now more than ever. Your child needs to find a program that works for them and for you. Our experience with the high standards of instruction has been positive. If you are not comfortable with the philosophy of the program, then you should seek something that works better for you and your son.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your thoughts Director of soccer operations. Sounds like wishful thinking to me. I never experienced anything like that at NJCSA. Good Luck!

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous" is an NJCSA coach looking to keep teh gravy train running there be fleecing gullible parents. No one who actually knows soccer stays there mor than a season, two at most. They thrive on fleecing the unknowing. RUN FROM NJCSA...........DONT WALK.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA and CSA have merged their U15 Pre-Academy teams and will be playing under NJCSA as one; good luck with that. CSA was a middle of the tier team at U14 and NJCSA fared even worse, adding these two together may not make the team better, it should only add on the number of players on the roster ($$$$$). Lots of kids fighting for playing time. A few of the U14s from CSA and NJCSA will move up to play U16, but unless these guys are World class players the NJCSA U16 team may not do very well either. Just look at their record at U15 Pre-Academy this past season. Also, rumor has it, that a couple of CSA's top U14 players will not be coming back and a few others will be playing EDP with the CSA team out of Newark (I wonder why). Good lucky to all the players and parents embarking in this exiting adventure.

Anonymous said...

TRAIN WRECK AHEAD

Anonymous said...

All I want too know is, how do you lose your top players? It is not like their is a revolving door for top players around the Academies or even regular club teams. Shouldn't the goal be to keep your top players and get rid of dead weight.

Anonymous said...

'They introduced the philosophy of the program as being player development and growth' -
and how exactly is this measured? By their acceptance into top soccer colleges or their yearly climb up the ranks of their leagues?

'I would rather have the better program than the better building. For us, we are ok practicing on borrowed turf and rented fields where we are seeing amazing player development and talented players we are proud to consider our son's peers.' -
again how is this amazing development measured?

'If you are of the "win at all costs" variety, we wish you well at another program' -
have you never seen them play the RB or any top academy? Parking the bus to keep games close is not development and it is a win (or put on a good showing) at all cost mentality.

' the coaches provide written feedback to the players twice a year. This feedback helps us focus him on what he needs to work on and what he is doing well. If we have had a concern, the coach was available by email.' -

Apparently you have never had the DOT as a coach. He told a parent once that if they wanted a review they would have to make an appointment to ask him - that he was too busy to just do them all. And this was for a team he coached!
And take that feedback with a grain of salt. I have seen kids with 9's and 10's with great performance reviews for several years get cut and be told that they were being 'carried for several years and are not academy material'. How in the world do you give kids 9's and 10's and then have the audacity to tell parents that they were not academy material and they were being carried for several years? I will tell you why - to blow smoke up their arses and kept the money coming in until you find better players. Because they know if they ranked these kids at 5's, 6's or 7's they would have saved the money and went back to town teams.

Be wary of this organziation - it's all roses when your young but once they know you are in for a few years it gets really rough at the older age groups in terms of player development.

Anonymous said...

I don't think there are any academies in the US that are 100% about player development. Everyone is too worried about winning. NYCFC has the right idea with their youth development league. There are NO Scores posted.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, most only learn after its too late and you wasted your time and money and your son's playing career.
Shame on those that take advantage of the people trying to do the right thing in a lopsided system favoring those that kiss ass and those that collect the $.

Anonymous said...

I do agree that all academies are not perfect (including Red Bulls and PDA) but when you keep making the same mistakes over and over that is not good. The post above mentioned that a couple of CSA's top players will not be returning this fall. So how does an organization let that happen. Also when you have a roster of over 22 kids; how do you develop players. So far I have not heard anything in this blog that makes me think that the NJCSA/CSA merger has made either organization any better.

Anonymous said...

I would like to see smaller rosters and more teams but I think money is the reason this can't happen. Clubs don't want to pay for more coaching and whatever other costs are involved. USSDA should be giving more financial resources to develop players. Why should players have to go to other countries to get quality training? When I hear about US kids training abroad and US national teams chasing after them, I wonder What's wrong with this picture?

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, large rosters add to the money pot wherever you are.

Take look at some of the top Club Teams and they are doing the same thing. If there is a demand to be on the team they will take the money in an instant and carry 20 - 25 players.

Anonymous said...

The adults in charge have their own agendas. They're not looking out for the child's best interests. Good players are overlooked all the time in this system.

Anonymous said...

July 27, 2015 3:50 PM.
I do agree that good players are being overlooked all the time in this system. Besides that, every academy/club you go to, the coach has his favorites, and they get pushed up the chain and other players who may be better get pushed to the side. Over sees you get scouted at games; here you attend a US Market Training Center for 2 hours and when you get there half of the kids are from the Red Bulls, Philly and the scouts already have some players from those clubs in mind and all the other kids are basically just there to fill spots.

Anonymous said...

Really frustrating but that's the way it is. The worst thing about it all is that some kids get really hurt and discouraged in the process.

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Anonymous said...

Did you ever play soccer in high school or college? Even if you only played for 5 minutes, that automatically qualifies you to be a coach at NJCSA. You do not need to have a high level soccer coaching license, you do not need any teaching skills, you do not need to care or put any effort into developing soccer players. Knowledge of teaching technical and tactical skills or improving player psychology are not material.

By the way, it does help if you know the coaching director... In that case you automatically qualify to coach at NJCSA.

Anonymous said...

That is true for NJCSA. They had father coaching there who never even played soccer. He played football.He did, however, have three sons playing there and hsi wife worked in office. I guess that is where he got his knowledge. He knows nothing whatsoever about the game, other than playing his daughter -- yes daughter -- on boys team to which club turned a blind eye. No doubt the trade off was he did not get paid. He was a complete fool yet they had him coaching more than one team. If you complained about his antics and utter lack of knowledge..... well you know the rest: loss of playing time for child suddenly, blacklisted, "club team" the usual.

Anonymous said...

Not my experience at NJCSA by a long shot. All good coaches so far...

Anonymous said...

Most of the posts here are about how bad NJCSA is, but that's not my experience with them either. My son had one bad coach, but they eventually got rid of him. Many other clubs have bad coaches as well.

I'm looking forward to a good season; I'm familiar with most of the kids on the new roster and they are very good players; and whoever said that there are 30+ kids on the roster doesn't have his/her facts straight. I'm not friends with the coach, nor the DOC, and my son has been getting adequate playing time. There will always be favorites, but I think if your son plays hard and smart and trains well with the team and on his own and is coachable, he will get noticed and will be played on games.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the update from management. So obvious...

Anonymous said...

All academies have favoritism, bad coaches and issues, but at least the other academies are winning. At the end of the day if you don't win, it shows. Players, parents and critics all want results and the results at CSA\NJCSA are not good.

Anonymous said...

what I don't get is how an organization like CSA, allow a couple of their best U14 players to leave (as stated on July 23, 2015 at 3:58 PM). CSA had some talent on that team, their were a few excellent players on that roster. As an organization, you either are not doing enough to keep these players or your not running things the right way. This is definitely going to show in the U15 and U16 NJCSA games this fall.

Anonymous said...

You can only over promise under deliver for so long until better options are taken.

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Anonymous said...

I just googled that coach you are talking about and he ended up at PDA.

Anonymous said...

The European youth development system is so much better. Why doesn't the us just copy that model and use it for themselves?

Anonymous said...

The coach that is at PDA now was probably the best coach NJCSA had. The real story is a bunch of parents didn't like it when the coach made teenage players responsible for their actions. Typical kids with privilege being protected by their helicopter parents. I'm not part of NJCSA but know the real story, not the crap that is posted on this blog. You NJCSA parents get what you deserve. A poorly run program with bad teams.