1:29Newark CSA will play EDP.1. Alot of the Newark CSA players play for ST. Benedicts.2. CSA does not have an academy license for U15/U16 or U17/U18.
My son is looking to leave his club team to try out for next years 2015-16 U16 RB , Philly Union or PDA Academy teams. I've noticed both RB and Union currently don't have a U15 team.How would a player get a tryout out at one of these clubs and where are all of next years players coming from?
The u16 academy team is a mix of u15/u16 players. Red Bulls and Union don't usually have open tryouts. You should look up the u16 coaches online and contact them.
The academy uses birth year so next year's u16 academy team would be 99's and 00's
Anyone know when RB typically offers roster spots to potential pre academy and academy kids? May, June? I heard nycfc contacted some RB parents of upcoming U14 players already, but wondered in particular do RB wait for spring season to finish before making offer. I'm going to just ask Simon ( and he likely won't tell me!) but wondered anyone's experience firsthand.Thanks for any info, Soccer Mom, kid at Met Oval, RB showcase team, 03 skills challenge winner. PS We need to move near family in either NJ or CT next year and driving myself nuts trying to be prepared since they (RB)seem interested in my U11... I have no idea if they really are but want to be prepared as there is the little bro U 9 and where he'll train to consider IF the long shot occurs. Such first world problems I'm almost embarrassed to ask but figure I'd stop lurking. Thanks all.
US Soccer federation mandate girls DA. Residency like boys. All programs to be by FIFA birth year.http://equalizersoccer.com/2015/01/30/uswnt-youth-development-plans-academy-residency-ncaa-nwsl-training/#disqus_thread
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Real Salt Lake Academy best Academy for future stars in the US hands down overall
Does anyone know when and where the NYCFC academy is starting up? They're going to have their own youth development league.
Any word on njcsa facilities?
Here we go....Really?Is there nothing else you consume yourself with at 12'oclock in the morning than NJCSA?Get some sleep, and get a life!!
That's alright according to topdrawersoccer they had a total of 1 d1 recruit campared to 19 for red bull and 13,for pda. All is well
One month to the new state of the art facilities! My prediction is that they will use this promise to keep players from leaving and recruit more for 2015-2016.Dangling the carrot again.
NJCSA facilities are still in planning/approval stages. I have seen the plans, they are real, no BS. Choose not to believe if you wish.
Life is back to normal now that the Tri-State academies teams are all back in action this weekend.
.....and I have a bridge to sell you.....but first your 3k....and pipe dream
Njcsa is so desperate they run "free" junior academies for youngsters after no paying clients sign up and then boast "sold out". So sad
What's the matter, no more re-runs of Duck Dynasty on tonight? Well you can always log in and bash NJCSA!
The plans for the state of the art facility are there but,people gonna wait 3-5 years for project to be done,keep signing those checks njcsa parents,well done njcsa
Finally soccer is back, so here are some academy scores from the weekend.U14PDA 3 X 2 Match Fit U14Cedar Stars 2 x 2 Red Bulls
The USSDA is mandating that academy teams are free but where is the money coming from?
For the teams like PDA, Cedar Stars, Continental, Westchester that have loads of teams, they are just going to increase their fees and that extra increase will cover the cost for the USSDA teams.
PDA U15/16 2 - NJCSA 1PDA U17/18 2 - NJCSA 2Wow, from all the flack I read on this website I thought PDA was supposed to win these games by a wide margin.
You can park the bus and manage not to get crashed for a game or two. But your long term record speaks for the quality of work done by a soccer organization. The reality is that NJCSA is a waste of your talent (first and foremost). Then comes everything else, including waste of your time and money. The club is run by people that do not know how to teach anything to kids, have no skills in managing a club and are totally disorganized. They will continue to exist as long as they manage to "cheat" US Soccer and keep the existing Academy status; Parents still pay so that they can say that their kids play for an "academy" team.The only real academy teams in NJ are Red Bulls and PDA. They are managed professionally and they are actually teaching their kids something. Even club teams (e.g. PDA and other top NJ club teams) are much better than the so called NJCSA "Academy" teams.
I agree that NJCSA has its problems, but 2-2 vs. PDA is not parking the bus.Give credit where it is due.
The simple fact is if college soccer is the reason y you are at Ana academy you are wasting you money at njcsa. No colleges even look at them and their name on your resume is meaningless. Just look at their "signing day" news flash. Playing at njcsa had nothing to do with it. If u want a bit more competitive atmospher than travel soccer it is fine, but do mistake it for the elite academies
NJCSA 13/14 also lost to PDA 4-0 this weekend. And the 99 NEPAL Team lost 6-0 just before break. Speaking with some parents, it seems PDA teams played down to their opponent with bench players to get them some playing time this weekend.
Who cares about playing in college. It is about having fun.
The problem at NJCSA is not the fact that they don't have good training. From talking to some people, It is the fact that the coaches there are careless and do whatever it takes to have games late so they could enjoy their weekend, and pushing practices to dates that fit them best. I even heard that they have barely trained in the winter and are trying to squish two practices into one by putting 2000s and 2001s together. To improve as an academy, someone at the club needs to take the initiative and that will show the kids that they should take soccer serious. If it's about having fun and not playing college soccer, why would you pay all that money to play for an academy that everyone talks badly about? From watching NJCSA in their game against PDA, it seems that they had some individuals that know soccer very well and have a tremendous amount of technical ability. I noticed that the team revolves around fast strong players who know nothing of soccer and just kick it up. I garuntee if from the start they played their smart and skilled players and not define their style of play by using stronger and faster players who lose the ball after they just take it, the score would have been much much closer.
How many practices per week do the Academies hold? Would be nice to compare. Also, are there days just for fitness, or technique work, etc. Can parents from PDA, NJCSA, Cedar Stars, Red Bull provide some input?
Agreed with the Training comment above. I went to a few practices in the fall to see if the fit was right for my son. NJCSA generally has 2 or 3 practices a week which basically consists of 8v8 games on a quarter or half of the field. No technical or tactical training from what I saw. From the practices I have seen, it's just 'faster, faster - move the ball faster'. And if there is an opportunity to practice on the weekend, often, the coaches are busy with other teams so there are no make up or extra sessions. This I have been told by other player parents.The winter training is a combined team practice when they can get the SJV bubble - which is probably once a week on average. Their lack of training is very apparent in the winter futsal tournaments as compared to other academies. This I witnessed firsthand being at the same tournaments/And yes, cries of 'send it' do predominate throughout games. It's a shame because there are quality players - except they do seem to select/play bigger kids who have little ball skill.I guess it is what you get when you have trainers who opted out from the Red Bulls. That speaks volumes.
8v8 isn't a bad thing and neither is telling them to play the ball quicker. The only time when it's bad is when ur playing in a huge space and aren't resricted. Small spaces improve players technical ability. The thing is from what I've heard NJCSA don't even do that either.
Agreed.8v8, 5v5 and 3v3 can be very helpful in technical training.The issue at NJCSA, in my opinion from what I've seen, is that the 8v8 training doesn't translate over to the 'big field' for them. I've heard grumbles from parents as well that it's a 'hurried' 8v8 training- meaning they are basically playing hot potato with the ball with no comprehension of tactics - like moving off the ball or creating space and creating/building movement down the field. Hence, the kick and run games they play on the weekends. There seems to be no comprehension or soccer IQ, if you will. And by no means is this a reflection of the players, but that of the coaching staff to educate the players.At NJCSA there is also no set play training either on the defensive or offensive side, no defensive training/positioning and certainly no shooting or finishing training. I do like small sided training - but you would think at the Academy level it would be worked in with all other training aspects of the game. To me it's just laziness on the part of the coaches/trainors. A daddy coach can put 16 players on a small field and tell them to play quicker without teaching them the finer points of the game.
But somehow the NJCSA players with the "low soccer IQ" and "little ball skills" managed to "hot potato" their way to a 2-2 tie with the PDA U17/18s.People mention that the NJCSA parents just want to say their kids are on an Academy team. I believe the PDA parents want to say their kids are on "one of the only real NJ academies" and ignore such results as "playing down to the level of their opponent." Obviously there was something more going on in the U17/18 game than what is reported here by the PDA followers.I heard from several NJCSA parents that NJCSA played at the level of PDA for most if not all of the match.Any game recaps from folks who have not drank the PDA cool aid?
1:33Cedar Stars practices are 4 days a week in the fall and spring. No fitness days but technical and tactical training is administered all the time. In the winter we practice 3 to 4 days a week not including the fact that we usually play a futsal or indoor game, just about every weekend. The weeks we practice 4 days in the winter, one of those days is for fitness, with a specialized fitness instructor.
PDA Cool Aid? There is simply no comparison b/w the two clubs on any metric: Facilities, coaches, training, college attendance, players, national team members, parent/player satisfaction. The list goes on and on.
It's obvious you cannot add humility to that list...
11:54You are making PDA sound so great, but you are the same parent that when the Red Bulls use to have open tryouts you were the first one on the line.Come on now, PDA is good club and they have proven themselves, but to sit here and say that you are the all might academy, I think that is little too much!!!
Give Cedar Stars Academy a few yearsto grow and they will be just as good as PDA.
With that last comment, why cannot NJCSA develop into a top academy with the new ownership and new Director of Operations?
NJCSA u15 pre-academy only practices twice a week... there is a 3rd practice but only for goalies.
While Cedar Stars does own NJCSA, their goal is building up their own academy that was started from a solid foundation. NJCSA was pushed to the back burner but over time, maybe it can be improved. Cedar Stars hand-picked their own coaches and are carefully building their academy..NJCSA's coaches and structure have been part of that organization before they took over. It's not easy to change.
By the time you are 17/18 years old nobody cares about academy. Everyone knows where they are going in the near future. We have to compare the 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 year olds. What most people don't understand is that even though NJCSA have the fast, strong players that they "consider their best players", they were constantly demolished by PDA. Kick and run and parking a bus doesn't always end in a tie.
2:39So Mr. PDA you are the only good Academy around, I see. I recall when you were loosing some games to another academy in South/Central Jersey a few years back. Were/Are they a horrible academy too???
All you have to do is look at the number and quality of "college signing day" players for each of the clubs. That will tell you what college coaches and outsiders -- not the parents of the children that play at each -- think of each Academy (coaches, players, history of Academy, etc.). The Answer is pretty clear from that what they think of the clubs.
NJCSA had a "free" clinic at the atlantic club (150k+ household income fitness) ...it was a marketing idea to attract more parents who could afford their ridiculous fees....lets be honest these academies dont nithing until its cost free down to u8..by the time a kid gets to u13 most likely his parents have been paying a bill to get him there...these are 2nd hand athletes...the real stars of youth soccer are playing basketball but thise wont make the switch with their 10 year old to soccer if it cost 2k year...
10:40 What are you talking about. I could not understand half of what you are saying. :-)))
so has Tab dropped out of NJCS since the name change?
No, saw him at a practice two weeks ago.
USSDA teams should not be so focused on results. They should be developing youth players for the future. Who's going to care in 10 yrs. what team won at age 12-17? I think that's the biggest problem in ussda. When you're all about winning, development slides. How many talented youth players quit the game because they don't develop physically fast enough and feel discouraged because they never play in games? Anyone who thinks the psychological side of development isn't as important as everything else is mistaken.
You have a good point, but I don't think it will ever change. The USSDA has been set up to revolve around winning. A youth coach once told me that academies in other countries don,t care who wins at the youth level. Half the time they don't even keep score. It's all about development.
I absolutely agree. The USSDA my son plays for actually does ignore winning/losing (and as you can imagine, some years 'results' are much better than others.) The club seems to have enough player successes to get past some of the usual problems that would likely otherwise result. But our culture overall isn't changing, parents/players want wins, and if they don't come, if the coaching staff doesn't make that happen, there are so many negative results to both the clubs and to the players. When you look at the number of talented players who haven't yet physically developed on these Academies (as the 12:46 poster mentioned,) you can see just how much talent is squeezed out in favor of physical domination, and this is only one of the problems (I won't even begin on playing style and how detrimental those choices are in the development of players when made for the wrong reasons.) The short-sightedness of our system is mind boggling, and it certainly seems clear that won't be changing anytime in the near future.
Coaches are always under pressure to have good results. They must balance player development with winning. Not easy.
My son's USSDA coach says that it is not about winning it is about development. That is funny, because I am not seeing any development being done. Not with my son or any other player on the team.
HEY!Today is the day NJCSA opens their new state of the art facilities!Or maybe not. 12 -18 months has sadly come and gone without nary a mention. perhaps by 2020.Keep up the great work!
LOL. There is simply no accountability for their NJCSA lies and promises to parents. If this were a Wall Street firm they would be under indcitment....But dont ask questions, your child will then be blacklisted. But that may actually be a blessing because then you will be leave club.
To all the NJCSA haters who are still at that academy,I'd really like to know why you are still there. You must like something they are doing if you stay, It's not as if there are no other options.
There is always SO much venting about NJCSA. There are issues elsewhere too, but at some point if the issues are intolerable to you, then is it really worth staying in the USSDA for that? It may be I assume, since it's hard to say just how much that may or may not help a particular player who wants to play in college, but isn't this what it really comes down to with all the complaining about NJCSA? If it's that horrendous, but your player is staying there in hopes that having academy status behind them will help w college (I wish I could think of another possible reason anyone would think to stay in a program they feel is awful) than maybe make a personal decision to stop paying attention as much as possible until your kid is done putting in their time. If that's not what's got you staying, but it's such a terrible program, then why not leave so you and your players can get on with your lives elsewhere?
All this is pretty funny.One would certainly hope that the thrashing is not from NJCSA parents as how would they expect the club to draw top talent if they are thrashing their own?Then again, I would not be surprised. It is definitely a way to protect their own kid's spot on the roster. For wat reason, I have no idea.
The problem with NJCSA is simply that they hold themselves out and represent themselves as something they are not: An Elite Soccer Club. They promise and charge for a service they are and have always been unable to deliver. In representing and selling that they are something more than the mediocore, at best, club team they are, they feed on the dreams, wallets and naivte of players and parents. The backlash on these boards and sidelines is inevitable and will not change as the same representations are made to naive and unknowing new players and parents with each new season and year.
So really the only crime here is a parent paying too much for a service that is advertised as being more. That gripe can be summed up in one sentence and is probably understood by us all. Add something constructive.
9:01.So you are telling me that RB, Philly, PDA, Match Fit, CSA, Continental are all developing players. Come on now, the whole academy systems is pay to play and players are not being developed.. If NJCSA was winning nobody would be in here complaining. I have heard complains from various parents in different academies. It is all the same everywhere. The only reason the other academies manage to stay off the radar is because they win a few more games then NJCSA. BY the way, I am not NJCSA parent.
Exactly. the sooner people realize this statement is true and that there IS NO good system at work here, the happier (or not) they'll be. (quote from above post) "...the whole academy systems is pay to play and players are not being developed."
Looks like NJCSA "State of Art Facility" is renting unused open space at the Atlantic Club. Nice.
USSDA needs to understand that physical dominance will bring winning results to the youth level but it won't work at the adult level, and winning at the adult level is what matters.Does the USSDA even care about adult soccer? Most of the players just play in college and college teams just play like high school team.
NJCSA is a joke. Poor academy results are a given, but have you seen the results of their club teams? These are kids paying three grand a year to train in an academy style training environment but cannot even compete with low level maps town teams. PDA and Gotschee club teams on the other hand seem to do very well.Why such a big difference?It seems the entire organization is failing these kids.
I guess the parents have a lot of money to waste and they get to brag about their child making NJCSA. Don't they know that they will take anyone? A college coach might be impressed by the name but they still want to see the child knows how to play.KOOL-AID! Save your money for college tuition.
NJSA Coaches had thirty four kids to one coach at practice this past week. The 2000 have been training with 2001 which makes 2000 move at a slower rate on field. SNNNAAAAIILLLLSSSS. they have not improved but in the past year they have been staggering and disgraced on the field. DOC tells them they should be ashamed because his older team won with a man down and this team is an embarrassment. if you play raquetball with head coach you get to suggest your position and get additional playing time on field. This goes for golf as well. Boys get rostered when they have been out on an injury all week and NOT at practice"just in case" they could play while others sit and wait to be given a chance or dont get rostered. they have two boys that can do no wrong. Praised endlessly and never sit out even if they miss practice. 100 percent playing time no matter what. One is reckless and gets red card after red card. no discipline for playing recklessly instead patted on the back as if that is a good way to play. big kids favored over small. DOC says to kids at half time that his own son is the only one playing hard. He should not even be coaching a team with his own child on it. His son is favored for playing time. NJSA only plays a defense game against all teams. Coach does not put faith in midfield to make it happen. coach lines strong midfielders with slow midfielders and then sits back and just wants the team to play defense. NJSA defensive superstar is patted on the back over and over in front of other players for kicking the ball up the field. No style of play. Player told not to pass it to a specific midfielder. If he is not doing his job then take him off! dont just kick up! ATTENTION NEW OWNER GEORGE!!!! read this, swallow it, ask the parents if they are even slightly happy with level of coaching and practice. The only time things are stepped up is if George, Tab, or an Academy Rep is at practice. Simple to say if not happy leave but when so many talented boys are at risk and have great potential but need great leadership then saying just leave if not happy is not the solution. solve problems in management!!!! Parents please post if you agree!!!! This level of coaching, direction, and playing needs to be changed.
NJSA humiliated today by Philly. Midfield slow. Defense risky. Strikersa so small against Philly defenders. .
NJSA Tryout minded Run!
NJCSA U15 pre-academy had a great game against PDA yesterday. Final score was 0-0 and both teams played well against each other. It was enjoyable to watch.
9:23-- Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
With NYFC starting U14 academy - and presumably carrying that group forward to U16/U18 as they get older - Does this lead USSF to separate the DA into MLS only divisions? How does the NYFC academy impact RedBulls academy and its potential player pool? Does that help/hurt non-mls academies?
I heard US Training Center was held last night at PDA for the 2000 and 2001 age group. Does anyone know which teams and players were represented there?
4:17 Those are some pretty damning allegations against NJCSA/any coach, let alone the DOC of an Academy, if in name only, Club. If true y dont the parents/players have the issues addressed by the USSDA or the owners of club?. It seems pretty egregious and therea are avenues for it.
Parents who have addressed concerns at NJCSA in the past have had their kids cut after try outs, if on the lower tier or had playing time diminished, if in the middle. Top tiered players have no issue as they play full games and all parents want is exposure for them. Many naive parents put up with the DOC because they believe that coming over from the RB, he must have some knowledge of training and perhaps college connections which he continually boasts about. Highly doubtful though as players over the past few years haven't really knocked it out of the park with respect to college acceptance since his arrival. And that the fact that the RB terminated this particular DOC leaves a lot to be questioned. Why would RB let him go if he is such a superior DOC? It could be also that many kids do not make PDA/RB or even Matchfit and parents feel at least they are still with an academy.
1:11/11:09As per NJCSA they did have a player with the 2000 age group which is the group that I mostly payed attention to.AS per the training center for the 2000s, it was mostly RB, fallowed by, Match Fit and PDA, then BW Gottschee. The rest Cedar Stars, Delco, NJCSA and PA Classics each were represented with one player. If you know and fallow that age group, it was the same usual suspects from each team on the field, all very good players.
Njcsa,bla bla ,bla,by the way no facility,Holmdel shut it down,player development,yeah OK,the only thing being developed is the money in their bank account,nice job njcsa,,,,,,
All you NJCSA hatters, what you need to understand is that there is still people out there that want to play academy, whether is because they did not make PDA/RB/Philly or they want to be there because it is closer to their house. People are still going to join them regardless of what you write in here. For those parents who are not happy there and keep venting in this blog, just leave already, oh I forget, you want your kid to play academy and that is the only place that will take your son. By the way I am not an NJCSA parent, just someone that thinks this topic is getting old.
But don't think it's better with the MLS academies. A current player for an MLS team comes to our academy practices on a regular basis, was here this past Tuesday. The father kills the MLS coaches and training sessions just like the NJSA parents post on this site. His son is very good and will probably be playing in Italy soon. My point is don't think your academy is the only one that is run poorly.
Parent talking bad about MLS academy; kid going to Italy. We all know who that family is!!! LOL.
New things happening at NJCSA/CSA. Keep your eyes and ears open.
Looks like NJ Turnpike/GSP will be collecting some extra EZpass tolls from u15/16 NJCSA parents.
Ohhhhh! New things happening at NJSA!First it was Tab's total involvement. Next it was the hiring of the RB doc to build a great academy. Then it was the Cedar Stars merger with state if the art facilities and now this vague announcement.More of the annual carrot dangling prior to tryouts to get more kids to come and prevent more kids from leaving.What a joke.
Who or what is the NJCSA? How does it compare to the NJ Rush? The Rush "clubs", both in Central and South Jersey, just had open tryouts for the fall. Without identifying which club/team I interacted with, let me say that it was troubling. It isn't the tryout or the fee (which I already knew) if selected for the team. Instead it was the continual invocation of "the Rush way" almost to the point of absurdity. The coaches substituted "the Rush" for the pronouns "I" and "we" in conversations discussing philosophy and policies. The coaches didn't talk about their soccer backgrounds which was unusual to say the least. Other coaches I've dealt with have droned on and on about their promising career cut short by an unfortunate ACL injury. In direct contrast these coaches lauded the Rush organization and all they have done for youth soccer. Very weird, almost like a cult.
You will find out soon enough about NJCSA/CSA happenings.
No one really cares anymore. NJCSA - CSA or whatever you call yourselves now is insignificant here. Go troll a MAPS or NJYSA board for poaching wanna be academy parents. You can build a monstrosity of a stadium but it will not make the training or the attitude of the admin or coaches any better.
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