Saturday, August 31, 2013

Academy Soccer

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42 comments:

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have any news on the new NJSA - Cedar Stars facilities? Will they be keeping the same NJSA trainers?

Anonymous said...

Is TSF an academy? They certainly present themselves like they are.

Anonymous said...

They are not listed on the US Soccer Development Website (USSF DA) so no they are not an academy.

Anonymous said...

ok thanks for clearing that up. I guess they're just hoping to get academy status.

Anonymous said...

Heard several Red Bulls 00 & 99's heading to Union next season. I know they lost a few last year.

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Anonymous said...

All sorts of rumors out there that MF is done as an Academy after this year. Anyone hear anything definitive on this? Heard it's driven by US Soccer demands for facilities that they can't meet.

Anonymous said...

Same trainers at NJSA O4 for next year. They like what they have. Field still in the works

Anonymous said...

Tab must be happy with results. Can't see how though. NJSA hasn't been quality for years. A new field will make a difference?

Anonymous said...

I believe you are wrong. The academy squads are always in the top half of their divisions. The pre academy are focusing on developing technical abilities of players for the future. Credit to them for doing so. Anyone can win i. Sunday games at u13 and under by focusing on tactics
But it will not benefit player other than allowing his parent to crow about on blogs and to grandma and grandpa

Anonymous said...

The problem with stallions NJSA is the stallions are in northern nj but the NJSA facilities are sometimes over 2 hours away without traffic and none Of. the stallions players think its worth it to go to a not so great acadamy compared with rb, PDA or Phil union, also, the NJSA plays all their games south in Virginia or sometimes nc so players In North New Jersey drive 6 hours to play 1 game

Anonymous said...

Don't let the academies fool you. Take PDA for instance. Their teams are not great and the training is not that good they do have some quality players but more don't belong there than do I have watched many of these trainings and games as an outsider and would not want my son part of that environment. Nothing special. And talking to people the favoritism hurts a lot of boys there.

Anonymous said...

We all know how hard it is for a young team, even an academy youth team, to have a full roster of very strong players. So if a program is really dedicated to development, meaning everyone plays, how can it not struggle against a strong team that chooses to only play its strongest starting side? You put your subs in for 10 minutes against Cedar Stars, you lose. People state that some of the Academy teams are "not that great," but at a young age winning and development are often orthogonal goals.

Anonymous said...

I agree that player development is the most important thing and everyone talks about that but in the end, it's all about winning. I haven't witnessed any club that is really about development. Our culture won't allow it.

Anonymous said...

Maybe when we win a World Cup I'll start thinking our way is best.

Anonymous said...

Great comment! We'll all have to wait and see.

Anonymous said...

If Tsf is not a academy what are they ... they have 30 or more coaches there ... paid coaches ... can they be part of ecnl for girls

Anonymous said...

My son had a try out there and I was led to believe that they are an academy but then I found out they aren't a "real" academy. So they shouldn't mislead parents.

Anonymous said...

PDA - not that great? Won several national titles in 2013 for boys and girls. Yeah they're terrible..

Anonymous said...

i agree with the comment that pda is not that great. i watched some of their teams play and it was just kick and run, physical soccer. super direct soccer and just a bunch of rah rah players and what seemed like parent/coaches
they are however, really really good at self promotion and thinking they are pretty good

Anonymous said...

The funny thing about PDA. They have talent there that is never really recognized. They bring in boys that are not that good and the good players suffer because of it. With such a turnout at tryouts how is it possible that so many better players never make a team and unskilled players do. Hopefully tryouts will be better this year.

Anonymous said...

Are the new players more physical? I've seen this happen to a lot of boys. The bigger players can win games because they will bully there way through. The more skilled player that the club has developed from a young age is suddenly on the outs. and left feeling discouraged

Anonymous said...

Just heard NEWS/RUMOR that Matchfit has been asked to leave the USDA after this year. First, is there anyone out there that can confirm this? Second, sad to hear. Obviously USSF found things they did not like in the progress of Matchfit.

Anonymous said...

MatchFit is keeping one team in the USDA next year. It will be the U14 team. The kids on that team will play for free. Not clear on whether the league asked them to leave or MF decided to leave because of expenses. I think the USDA is going to force all academies to pay for their academy teams so money is not an issue when picking the team. Obviously they feel that there are underpriveledged kids out there that are not being discovered because of the cost of some of the academies. The MLS Academies are currently doing this. As for the others I suppose they will either have to grow a fairly large youth soccer program, of all different levels, so those kids can subsidize the academy teams. Just my conjecture based on some of the letters I have seen. Kinda makes sense though...

Anonymous said...

How strong will the 00 DA be next year at union? Might be moving that way. Thx

Anonymous said...

Is the union u14 DA made up of just local kids or are the housing kids from outside area? Not sure if you are competing locally or from all over.

Anonymous said...

All DA teams will be free within next few years. That, plus facilities requirements, will dwindle the number of U16 & U18 DAs even further. As far as NJ, four were too many. MF leaving will likely mean stronger NJSA and Delco teams.

Anonymous said...

There is certainly a lot of interesting stuff happening this year in youth soccer in NJ....

1) MF is out
2) Cedar stars (up to U14) is in
3) NJSA (U15 and up) and PDA will absorb MF players and RBNY players who get cut
5) RBNY which is still the dominant team

The strong U13/14 club teams (1999/2000) will most likely significantly weaken as all the top players from those teams are catching the last train to get into academy soccer......

In terms of all DA going free, ... yes I can see people coming to that conclusion, but let's wait and see for another 2 to 3 years, because we may just find out that the way that US soccer is set up, youth soccer can only sustain itself in the current PDA/NJSA model...

Hopefully the model the NYRB and Pilly Union are promoting will succeed but I am still 50/50 on the long term financial sustainability of that model on a larger scale....

Anonymous said...

Have heard PDA will have one DA team like MatchFit, also of possible MLS DA involvement in the changes to those programs. Does anyone have info or can confirm?

Anonymous said...

Responding to 3/28 at 2:08: MF u14 is in the academy league next year as well. The financial sustainability for all non MLS academy programs is going to be difficult. Eventually this league will only be for MLS Academy programs. They will be adding a team from Montreal and possibly Syracuse so travel will also get more expensive. This will further harm the non-MLS teams.
Just one other thought, what happens if in a few years the MLS league itself is not financially viable? This whole system get blown up with it?

Anonymous said...

The US is just too geographically large and MLS franchises too dispersed to make mls based youth academy system viable. Can you see u14 players getting on a plane to go play a game? Who is going to pay for it? You need at least 8 teams to have a decent league. How many MLS teams from Boston to Miami, etc.... Just not viable.

Anonymous said...

From my exposure at the U8 - U11 level, I tend to think the soccer atmosphere (training, competition)provided by youth Academy teams is superior to most town teams. However, I don't see the Academy youth teams with the top notch players at that level. I am not sure why. Are the elite kids successful in the town programs and don't feel a need to move? Is it the cost? Travel? Will they be switching to football in 5 years? You would think if the top level kids moved to the more intense programs we would be putting out better players in the US.

Anonymous said...

U8-U11? There is no academy until U13 with some pre-academy teams at u11 and up.

Anonymous said...

I think he meant the U8 - U11 teams of PDA, NJSA...

Anonymous said...

My son was on a pre-academy team at U13 and the environment was terrible. Too many overly involved parents, coaches that listened to them more than they should have, Lots of screaming from the side lines, jealousy, bullying, and winning valued over development. On top of that, the fees were very expensive and it was 35 miles away. So you can see, there's no easy answer.

Anonymous said...

Why would you travel 35 miles to play for a team that was not an academy team? You couldn't find a more loacal place for your kid to develop at which was a better environment?

Anonymous said...

That's why my son is not at the academy club. I'm just trying to answer the question. We tried it and we didn't like it.

Anonymous said...

Anyone have a kid in union DA? How is experience?

Anonymous said...

PDA clearly the best

Anonymous said...

Chivas USA
No fee
Chicago Fire
No fee
Colorado Rapids
No fee
Columbus Crew
No fee
DC United
U14: $2,500
U16-U18: $1,500
FC Dallas
No fee
Houston Dynamo
U14: “Small fee”
U16-18: No fee
LA Galaxy
No fee
Montreal Impact
Secondary 1 (ages 12-13): $300
Secondary 2 (ages 13-14): $150
Secondary 3 & up (ages 15-18): No fee
New England Revolution
No fee
New York Red Bulls
No fee
Philadelphia Union
No fee
Portland Timbers
U14-U18: $500 fee
Real Salt Lake (Casa Grande, Ariz. residency program)
U14-U18: $309 fee
San Jose Earthquakes
No fee
Seattle Sounders
No fee
Sporting Kansas City
No annual fee (one-time “membership fee” required)
Toronto FC
No fee
Vancouver Whitecaps (Residency program)
No fee

Anonymous said...

New PDA forming through Toms River Football Club... anyone know if we should even be trying out for this? Is it to "new" to pay the huge fees attached to it? Is it beneficial for the U8 level?

Anonymous said...

PDA is forming new alliances because they now have to pay for their 3 academy teams U14, U16 and U18. The new academy rules mean they cannot charge the players on those teams. So they must find new lines of revenue to subsidize the academy teams. TRFC parents will be asked to do that.