One month to the new state of the art facilities! My prediction is that they will use this promise to keep players from leaving and recruit more for 2015-2016.Dangling the carrot again.
NJCSA facilities are still in planning/approval stages. I have seen the plans, they are real, no BS. Choose not to believe if you wish.
Life is back to normal now that the Tri-State academies teams are all back in action this weekend.
.....and I have a bridge to sell you.....but first your 3k....and pipe dream
Njcsa is so desperate they run "free" junior academies for youngsters after no paying clients sign up and then boast "sold out". So sad
What's the matter, no more re-runs of Duck Dynasty on tonight? Well you can always log in and bash NJCSA!
The plans for the state of the art facility are there but,people gonna wait 3-5 years for project to be done,keep signing those checks njcsa parents,well done njcsa
Finally soccer is back, so here are some academy scores from the weekend.U14PDA 3 X 2 Match Fit U14Cedar Stars 2 x 2 Red Bulls
The USSDA is mandating that academy teams are free but where is the money coming from?
For the teams like PDA, Cedar Stars, Continental, Westchester that have loads of teams, they are just going to increase their fees and that extra increase will cover the cost for the USSDA teams.
PDA U15/16 2 - NJCSA 1PDA U17/18 2 - NJCSA 2Wow, from all the flack I read on this website I thought PDA was supposed to win these games by a wide margin.
You can park the bus and manage not to get crashed for a game or two. But your long term record speaks for the quality of work done by a soccer organization. The reality is that NJCSA is a waste of your talent (first and foremost). Then comes everything else, including waste of your time and money. The club is run by people that do not know how to teach anything to kids, have no skills in managing a club and are totally disorganized. They will continue to exist as long as they manage to "cheat" US Soccer and keep the existing Academy status; Parents still pay so that they can say that their kids play for an "academy" team.The only real academy teams in NJ are Red Bulls and PDA. They are managed professionally and they are actually teaching their kids something. Even club teams (e.g. PDA and other top NJ club teams) are much better than the so called NJCSA "Academy" teams.
I agree that NJCSA has its problems, but 2-2 vs. PDA is not parking the bus.Give credit where it is due.
The simple fact is if college soccer is the reason y you are at Ana academy you are wasting you money at njcsa. No colleges even look at them and their name on your resume is meaningless. Just look at their "signing day" news flash. Playing at njcsa had nothing to do with it. If u want a bit more competitive atmospher than travel soccer it is fine, but do mistake it for the elite academies
NJCSA 13/14 also lost to PDA 4-0 this weekend. And the 99 NEPAL Team lost 6-0 just before break. Speaking with some parents, it seems PDA teams played down to their opponent with bench players to get them some playing time this weekend.
Who cares about playing in college. It is about having fun.
The problem at NJCSA is not the fact that they don't have good training. From talking to some people, It is the fact that the coaches there are careless and do whatever it takes to have games late so they could enjoy their weekend, and pushing practices to dates that fit them best. I even heard that they have barely trained in the winter and are trying to squish two practices into one by putting 2000s and 2001s together. To improve as an academy, someone at the club needs to take the initiative and that will show the kids that they should take soccer serious. If it's about having fun and not playing college soccer, why would you pay all that money to play for an academy that everyone talks badly about? From watching NJCSA in their game against PDA, it seems that they had some individuals that know soccer very well and have a tremendous amount of technical ability. I noticed that the team revolves around fast strong players who know nothing of soccer and just kick it up. I garuntee if from the start they played their smart and skilled players and not define their style of play by using stronger and faster players who lose the ball after they just take it, the score would have been much much closer.
How many practices per week do the Academies hold? Would be nice to compare. Also, are there days just for fitness, or technique work, etc. Can parents from PDA, NJCSA, Cedar Stars, Red Bull provide some input?
Agreed with the Training comment above. I went to a few practices in the fall to see if the fit was right for my son. NJCSA generally has 2 or 3 practices a week which basically consists of 8v8 games on a quarter or half of the field. No technical or tactical training from what I saw. From the practices I have seen, it's just 'faster, faster - move the ball faster'. And if there is an opportunity to practice on the weekend, often, the coaches are busy with other teams so there are no make up or extra sessions. This I have been told by other player parents.The winter training is a combined team practice when they can get the SJV bubble - which is probably once a week on average. Their lack of training is very apparent in the winter futsal tournaments as compared to other academies. This I witnessed firsthand being at the same tournaments/And yes, cries of 'send it' do predominate throughout games. It's a shame because there are quality players - except they do seem to select/play bigger kids who have little ball skill.I guess it is what you get when you have trainers who opted out from the Red Bulls. That speaks volumes.
8v8 isn't a bad thing and neither is telling them to play the ball quicker. The only time when it's bad is when ur playing in a huge space and aren't resricted. Small spaces improve players technical ability. The thing is from what I've heard NJCSA don't even do that either.
Agreed.8v8, 5v5 and 3v3 can be very helpful in technical training.The issue at NJCSA, in my opinion from what I've seen, is that the 8v8 training doesn't translate over to the 'big field' for them. I've heard grumbles from parents as well that it's a 'hurried' 8v8 training- meaning they are basically playing hot potato with the ball with no comprehension of tactics - like moving off the ball or creating space and creating/building movement down the field. Hence, the kick and run games they play on the weekends. There seems to be no comprehension or soccer IQ, if you will. And by no means is this a reflection of the players, but that of the coaching staff to educate the players.At NJCSA there is also no set play training either on the defensive or offensive side, no defensive training/positioning and certainly no shooting or finishing training. I do like small sided training - but you would think at the Academy level it would be worked in with all other training aspects of the game. To me it's just laziness on the part of the coaches/trainors. A daddy coach can put 16 players on a small field and tell them to play quicker without teaching them the finer points of the game.
But somehow the NJCSA players with the "low soccer IQ" and "little ball skills" managed to "hot potato" their way to a 2-2 tie with the PDA U17/18s.People mention that the NJCSA parents just want to say their kids are on an Academy team. I believe the PDA parents want to say their kids are on "one of the only real NJ academies" and ignore such results as "playing down to the level of their opponent." Obviously there was something more going on in the U17/18 game than what is reported here by the PDA followers.I heard from several NJCSA parents that NJCSA played at the level of PDA for most if not all of the match.Any game recaps from folks who have not drank the PDA cool aid?
1:33Cedar Stars practices are 4 days a week in the fall and spring. No fitness days but technical and tactical training is administered all the time. In the winter we practice 3 to 4 days a week not including the fact that we usually play a futsal or indoor game, just about every weekend. The weeks we practice 4 days in the winter, one of those days is for fitness, with a specialized fitness instructor.
PDA Cool Aid? There is simply no comparison b/w the two clubs on any metric: Facilities, coaches, training, college attendance, players, national team members, parent/player satisfaction. The list goes on and on.
It's obvious you cannot add humility to that list...
11:54You are making PDA sound so great, but you are the same parent that when the Red Bulls use to have open tryouts you were the first one on the line.Come on now, PDA is good club and they have proven themselves, but to sit here and say that you are the all might academy, I think that is little too much!!!
Give Cedar Stars Academy a few yearsto grow and they will be just as good as PDA.
With that last comment, why cannot NJCSA develop into a top academy with the new ownership and new Director of Operations?
NJCSA u15 pre-academy only practices twice a week... there is a 3rd practice but only for goalies.
While Cedar Stars does own NJCSA, their goal is building up their own academy that was started from a solid foundation. NJCSA was pushed to the back burner but over time, maybe it can be improved. Cedar Stars hand-picked their own coaches and are carefully building their academy..NJCSA's coaches and structure have been part of that organization before they took over. It's not easy to change.
By the time you are 17/18 years old nobody cares about academy. Everyone knows where they are going in the near future. We have to compare the 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 year olds. What most people don't understand is that even though NJCSA have the fast, strong players that they "consider their best players", they were constantly demolished by PDA. Kick and run and parking a bus doesn't always end in a tie.
2:39So Mr. PDA you are the only good Academy around, I see. I recall when you were loosing some games to another academy in South/Central Jersey a few years back. Were/Are they a horrible academy too???
All you have to do is look at the number and quality of "college signing day" players for each of the clubs. That will tell you what college coaches and outsiders -- not the parents of the children that play at each -- think of each Academy (coaches, players, history of Academy, etc.). The Answer is pretty clear from that what they think of the clubs.
NJCSA had a "free" clinic at the atlantic club (150k+ household income fitness) ...it was a marketing idea to attract more parents who could afford their ridiculous fees....lets be honest these academies dont nithing until its cost free down to u8..by the time a kid gets to u13 most likely his parents have been paying a bill to get him there...these are 2nd hand athletes...the real stars of youth soccer are playing basketball but thise wont make the switch with their 10 year old to soccer if it cost 2k year...
10:40 What are you talking about. I could not understand half of what you are saying. :-)))
so has Tab dropped out of NJCS since the name change?
No, saw him at a practice two weeks ago.
USSDA teams should not be so focused on results. They should be developing youth players for the future. Who's going to care in 10 yrs. what team won at age 12-17? I think that's the biggest problem in ussda. When you're all about winning, development slides. How many talented youth players quit the game because they don't develop physically fast enough and feel discouraged because they never play in games? Anyone who thinks the psychological side of development isn't as important as everything else is mistaken.
You have a good point, but I don't think it will ever change. The USSDA has been set up to revolve around winning. A youth coach once told me that academies in other countries don,t care who wins at the youth level. Half the time they don't even keep score. It's all about development.
I absolutely agree. The USSDA my son plays for actually does ignore winning/losing (and as you can imagine, some years 'results' are much better than others.) The club seems to have enough player successes to get past some of the usual problems that would likely otherwise result. But our culture overall isn't changing, parents/players want wins, and if they don't come, if the coaching staff doesn't make that happen, there are so many negative results to both the clubs and to the players. When you look at the number of talented players who haven't yet physically developed on these Academies (as the 12:46 poster mentioned,) you can see just how much talent is squeezed out in favor of physical domination, and this is only one of the problems (I won't even begin on playing style and how detrimental those choices are in the development of players when made for the wrong reasons.) The short-sightedness of our system is mind boggling, and it certainly seems clear that won't be changing anytime in the near future.
Coaches are always under pressure to have good results. They must balance player development with winning. Not easy.
My son's USSDA coach says that it is not about winning it is about development. That is funny, because I am not seeing any development being done. Not with my son or any other player on the team.
HEY!Today is the day NJCSA opens their new state of the art facilities!Or maybe not. 12 -18 months has sadly come and gone without nary a mention. perhaps by 2020.Keep up the great work!
LOL. There is simply no accountability for their NJCSA lies and promises to parents. If this were a Wall Street firm they would be under indcitment....But dont ask questions, your child will then be blacklisted. But that may actually be a blessing because then you will be leave club.
To all the NJCSA haters who are still at that academy,I'd really like to know why you are still there. You must like something they are doing if you stay, It's not as if there are no other options.
There is always SO much venting about NJCSA. There are issues elsewhere too, but at some point if the issues are intolerable to you, then is it really worth staying in the USSDA for that? It may be I assume, since it's hard to say just how much that may or may not help a particular player who wants to play in college, but isn't this what it really comes down to with all the complaining about NJCSA? If it's that horrendous, but your player is staying there in hopes that having academy status behind them will help w college (I wish I could think of another possible reason anyone would think to stay in a program they feel is awful) than maybe make a personal decision to stop paying attention as much as possible until your kid is done putting in their time. If that's not what's got you staying, but it's such a terrible program, then why not leave so you and your players can get on with your lives elsewhere?
All this is pretty funny.One would certainly hope that the thrashing is not from NJCSA parents as how would they expect the club to draw top talent if they are thrashing their own?Then again, I would not be surprised. It is definitely a way to protect their own kid's spot on the roster. For wat reason, I have no idea.
The problem with NJCSA is simply that they hold themselves out and represent themselves as something they are not: An Elite Soccer Club. They promise and charge for a service they are and have always been unable to deliver. In representing and selling that they are something more than the mediocore, at best, club team they are, they feed on the dreams, wallets and naivte of players and parents. The backlash on these boards and sidelines is inevitable and will not change as the same representations are made to naive and unknowing new players and parents with each new season and year.
So really the only crime here is a parent paying too much for a service that is advertised as being more. That gripe can be summed up in one sentence and is probably understood by us all. Add something constructive.
9:01.So you are telling me that RB, Philly, PDA, Match Fit, CSA, Continental are all developing players. Come on now, the whole academy systems is pay to play and players are not being developed.. If NJCSA was winning nobody would be in here complaining. I have heard complains from various parents in different academies. It is all the same everywhere. The only reason the other academies manage to stay off the radar is because they win a few more games then NJCSA. BY the way, I am not NJCSA parent.
Exactly. the sooner people realize this statement is true and that there IS NO good system at work here, the happier (or not) they'll be. (quote from above post) "...the whole academy systems is pay to play and players are not being developed."
Looks like NJCSA "State of Art Facility" is renting unused open space at the Atlantic Club. Nice.
USSDA needs to understand that physical dominance will bring winning results to the youth level but it won't work at the adult level, and winning at the adult level is what matters.Does the USSDA even care about adult soccer? Most of the players just play in college and college teams just play like high school team.
NJCSA is a joke. Poor academy results are a given, but have you seen the results of their club teams? These are kids paying three grand a year to train in an academy style training environment but cannot even compete with low level maps town teams. PDA and Gotschee club teams on the other hand seem to do very well.Why such a big difference?It seems the entire organization is failing these kids.
I guess the parents have a lot of money to waste and they get to brag about their child making NJCSA. Don't they know that they will take anyone? A college coach might be impressed by the name but they still want to see the child knows how to play.KOOL-AID! Save your money for college tuition.
NJSA Coaches had thirty four kids to one coach at practice this past week. The 2000 have been training with 2001 which makes 2000 move at a slower rate on field. SNNNAAAAIILLLLSSSS. they have not improved but in the past year they have been staggering and disgraced on the field. DOC tells them they should be ashamed because his older team won with a man down and this team is an embarrassment. if you play raquetball with head coach you get to suggest your position and get additional playing time on field. This goes for golf as well. Boys get rostered when they have been out on an injury all week and NOT at practice"just in case" they could play while others sit and wait to be given a chance or dont get rostered. they have two boys that can do no wrong. Praised endlessly and never sit out even if they miss practice. 100 percent playing time no matter what. One is reckless and gets red card after red card. no discipline for playing recklessly instead patted on the back as if that is a good way to play. big kids favored over small. DOC says to kids at half time that his own son is the only one playing hard. He should not even be coaching a team with his own child on it. His son is favored for playing time. NJSA only plays a defense game against all teams. Coach does not put faith in midfield to make it happen. coach lines strong midfielders with slow midfielders and then sits back and just wants the team to play defense. NJSA defensive superstar is patted on the back over and over in front of other players for kicking the ball up the field. No style of play. Player told not to pass it to a specific midfielder. If he is not doing his job then take him off! dont just kick up! ATTENTION NEW OWNER GEORGE!!!! read this, swallow it, ask the parents if they are even slightly happy with level of coaching and practice. The only time things are stepped up is if George, Tab, or an Academy Rep is at practice. Simple to say if not happy leave but when so many talented boys are at risk and have great potential but need great leadership then saying just leave if not happy is not the solution. solve problems in management!!!! Parents please post if you agree!!!! This level of coaching, direction, and playing needs to be changed.
NJSA humiliated today by Philly. Midfield slow. Defense risky. Strikersa so small against Philly defenders. .
NJSA Tryout minded Run!
NJCSA U15 pre-academy had a great game against PDA yesterday. Final score was 0-0 and both teams played well against each other. It was enjoyable to watch.
9:23-- Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
With NYFC starting U14 academy - and presumably carrying that group forward to U16/U18 as they get older - Does this lead USSF to separate the DA into MLS only divisions? How does the NYFC academy impact RedBulls academy and its potential player pool? Does that help/hurt non-mls academies?
I heard US Training Center was held last night at PDA for the 2000 and 2001 age group. Does anyone know which teams and players were represented there?
4:17 Those are some pretty damning allegations against NJCSA/any coach, let alone the DOC of an Academy, if in name only, Club. If true y dont the parents/players have the issues addressed by the USSDA or the owners of club?. It seems pretty egregious and therea are avenues for it.
Parents who have addressed concerns at NJCSA in the past have had their kids cut after try outs, if on the lower tier or had playing time diminished, if in the middle. Top tiered players have no issue as they play full games and all parents want is exposure for them. Many naive parents put up with the DOC because they believe that coming over from the RB, he must have some knowledge of training and perhaps college connections which he continually boasts about. Highly doubtful though as players over the past few years haven't really knocked it out of the park with respect to college acceptance since his arrival. And that the fact that the RB terminated this particular DOC leaves a lot to be questioned. Why would RB let him go if he is such a superior DOC? It could be also that many kids do not make PDA/RB or even Matchfit and parents feel at least they are still with an academy.
1:11/11:09As per NJCSA they did have a player with the 2000 age group which is the group that I mostly payed attention to.AS per the training center for the 2000s, it was mostly RB, fallowed by, Match Fit and PDA, then BW Gottschee. The rest Cedar Stars, Delco, NJCSA and PA Classics each were represented with one player. If you know and fallow that age group, it was the same usual suspects from each team on the field, all very good players.
Njcsa,bla bla ,bla,by the way no facility,Holmdel shut it down,player development,yeah OK,the only thing being developed is the money in their bank account,nice job njcsa,,,,,,
All you NJCSA hatters, what you need to understand is that there is still people out there that want to play academy, whether is because they did not make PDA/RB/Philly or they want to be there because it is closer to their house. People are still going to join them regardless of what you write in here. For those parents who are not happy there and keep venting in this blog, just leave already, oh I forget, you want your kid to play academy and that is the only place that will take your son. By the way I am not an NJCSA parent, just someone that thinks this topic is getting old.
But don't think it's better with the MLS academies. A current player for an MLS team comes to our academy practices on a regular basis, was here this past Tuesday. The father kills the MLS coaches and training sessions just like the NJSA parents post on this site. His son is very good and will probably be playing in Italy soon. My point is don't think your academy is the only one that is run poorly.
Parent talking bad about MLS academy; kid going to Italy. We all know who that family is!!! LOL.
New things happening at NJCSA/CSA. Keep your eyes and ears open.
Looks like NJ Turnpike/GSP will be collecting some extra EZpass tolls from u15/16 NJCSA parents.
Ohhhhh! New things happening at NJSA!First it was Tab's total involvement. Next it was the hiring of the RB doc to build a great academy. Then it was the Cedar Stars merger with state if the art facilities and now this vague announcement.More of the annual carrot dangling prior to tryouts to get more kids to come and prevent more kids from leaving.What a joke.
Who or what is the NJCSA? How does it compare to the NJ Rush? The Rush "clubs", both in Central and South Jersey, just had open tryouts for the fall. Without identifying which club/team I interacted with, let me say that it was troubling. It isn't the tryout or the fee (which I already knew) if selected for the team. Instead it was the continual invocation of "the Rush way" almost to the point of absurdity. The coaches substituted "the Rush" for the pronouns "I" and "we" in conversations discussing philosophy and policies. The coaches didn't talk about their soccer backgrounds which was unusual to say the least. Other coaches I've dealt with have droned on and on about their promising career cut short by an unfortunate ACL injury. In direct contrast these coaches lauded the Rush organization and all they have done for youth soccer. Very weird, almost like a cult.
You will find out soon enough about NJCSA/CSA happenings.
No one really cares anymore. NJCSA - CSA or whatever you call yourselves now is insignificant here. Go troll a MAPS or NJYSA board for poaching wanna be academy parents. You can build a monstrosity of a stadium but it will not make the training or the attitude of the admin or coaches any better.
2:22, If no one cares anymore, please stop commenting.
The Rush organization provides a high level, standardized training that has proven successful in player development. They select a several clubs per state with whom to affiliate and implement their training methods and branding across the club. Both the local club and the national Rush organization benefit.
Ant thoughts on the new PDA Shore boys program?
1:02This is an academy blog,unless PDA Shore is going to supply the academy team with some really good players, it does not matter. Everybody is now making mergers. Match Fit/Montclair, NJCSA/CSA, PDA/Shore and etc...
1:02. If girl yes, if boy no. Stick with Pda headquarters for boy as that is where quality boy training/coaches are, not at shore.
Girl's US Development academy does not exist. Maybe in the future.
Best academy for U16 girls?
U16G Soccer Blog
Could you explain further about the comments on PDA shore????
I don't know anything about PDA shore except there are no academy teams there. They may have a good girls program but academy teams are boys u14,u16,u18 at PDA north.
PDA Shore is 2 years new to the area. The teams have plenty of talent with dedicated coaches. It still needs to prove it's worth because it's fairly new,but it's certain it shouldn't take very long with the training, team standings and the talent I see coming from PDA Shore already. PDA north didn't become successful over night....food for thought
For 2015-16 Soccer Domain Football Club (SDFC) is creating a new u16 team for competition and showcasing. Since it's inception in 2009, SDFC (www.sdfc.us) has a rich tradition of preparing it's players (and families) for college through development and support on and off the field. We feel that this age group provides an opportunity to follow the path set by the SDFC Gauchos (high school class of 2014) and currently with the SDFC Rangers (high school class of 2017) who are currently ranked number 2 in Region 1 & number 1 in New Jersey, and third Nationally according to Gotsoccer.We will be hosting our first tryout on Thursday May 21st (8-9:30pm) at Newark Academy, Livingston. SDFC has identified Gary Adair as the potential coach for this age group. Gary holds the NSCAA Premier Diploma and a USSF National ‘A’ License and currently works with the u18 Force team and the u16 Rangers. The Rangers are currently regarded as a top National level team and have already qualify for the USYS National Championships in Tulsa, Oklahoma this summer. Apart from his SDFC work, Gary is the Assistant Head Coach at Manhattan College (Division 1 School - MAAC).For further information, please email firstname.lastname@example.org
Who cares about SDFC, this is an academy blog. No one is going to leave their academy team to be in a SDFC showcase team. LMAO!!!
any new tryout info?
NJCSA is a joke, we went down to the town of Plainfield with our u10 Academy team and we tied 2-2 ( we got lucky as they are a much stronger team than ours ) , in Indoor both our Academy teams got torn apart by the same Elite Plainfield team 1st game 14-2 2nd game 8-0 ... their field sucks but yet they have the right touch, tactics that not only beat us but other academies as well, my point is why am I paying close to 3K when I live 10 minutes away from where the Elite SC Plainfield practice and they charge what? 20% if that much of the cost for this, a couple more weeks of this and you know my son will be out of there.
You're right but I find it really upsetting that college coaches and others are impressed by the name NJCSA. Just because a player is there, there's an assumption that he's a great player. In reality, Elite SC Plainfield has better players but are college coaches interested?
College Coaches?!?!Who are you kidding.First off - College coaches do not go to watch NJCSA at any showcases or season matches. Unless they are watching from their cars, I have not seen any. Secondly, look at their list of graduates. The schools they are getting into are similar/worse than any good varsity high school player gets into.Thanks for the financial contribution - cha-ching!
May 28, 2015 at 11:08 AM Odd post. Number one, there is no u10 academy team, so you must be talking about the youth clubs that play in MAPS. Number two, NJCSA has not played Plainfield this season U10 MAPS. The MAPS U10 results show a NASA United team tying Plainfield 2 - 2. So either you don't know what team you are on or you are stirring the pot...
NJSA/NJCSA is a train wreck. But for TR it would have been stripped of academy status years ago. Anyone who can leaves after they become educated. Run, Dont walk
Yea, run, don't walk. But run to where? Except for the maybe 30 kids that make PDA/RBA for each age group, where do the other kids go? Run away from NJCSA for NJX or some other club team - I'm not so convinced. Yea, its a lot cheaper...
There is an assumption by many that NJCSA has something, I don't know what. Sure, they have academy status but their teams have mediocre or poor results, they have poor facilities (with empty promises of state of the art facilities being built,) and they charge more than most other clubs. Why do so many parents keep their kids there? Is it the fact that they're academy? Must be, even though they're broken.
Everyone is quick to bash NJCSA, but no one ever answers the question: Other than PDA/RBA, go where?
Academies currently have a monopoly of a very diluted product. Over the next few years, only the strongest will survive and there will then be more of a true system where most players play high school / club and only the special players with the most potential will play academy, as the system is truly intended to be. There just aren't enough well funded academies and good players to support the current system.
I think that the only real academies are the MLS academies. Club academies are mostly club teams. Many people think that any PDA or NJCSA or CSA or World class, etc. team is an academy team.
Philly Union and NYCFC have several feeder clubs who send over their best players. Eventually, all elite clubs will be feeder clubs for MLS academies, That's just my opinion.
I can understand the thought process behind this MLS comment BUT let's not forget about what happened with the RB last year. There were many talented players that were overlooked . A few ended up at neighboring clubs . i.e. Met Oval, Gottschee, and CSA. Gotta he currently ranked 12 (up from 17) in the country , CSA 6 ( from7) and RB 1 . After a few results the last few weeks those gaps should narrow. Plus these kids are see 70min of playing time dont think they would see that on RB roster.
What about FC Copa that trains at Rutgers?
What about them? Not academy.
5;54Where are those teams ranked? I thought academy teams weren't ranked.
Then there's the ongoing problem of quality and talent loss. -crappy coaches, poor trainers, scouts that got their positions for simply ridiculous reasons, people in charge for all the wrong reasons, under qualified parent-coaching, the list goes on and on. -so many ways for too many who are not what they should be to be selecting and working with what are supposed to be the most talented in the country. I love reading early articles about how the Academy was going to help address the problem of talent being missed in this country or how it would help retain talent often lost by the age of 14 that was too often replaced by those with early physical development. What a joke. I agree with the one poster saying over the next few years only the MLS Academies will survive, that seems pretty clear to be the future in some configuration or another. But I agree far more with the response about how much talent is being overlooked vs how only the special players w the most potential will remain and the rest will play HS and club (the example was talent being overlooked at RB.) When you think about the amount of talent that some very powerful and very small soccer nations put out and the quality of their many pro teams and academies vs their populations, which are minuscule in comparison to any large city in the US (even after taking football, bball, etc into account for those who want to make that argument,) there should be (and surely is) enough talent to support all the current Academy teams in the country and then some. There is a serious problem with overlooking and discarding talent in this country, and the USSDA hasn’t changed that. My personal opinion is that it isn't going to change ANY time in the near future.
If the academy system exists to develop the most talented players, why aren't all the players getting the same amount of playing time and game starts? This is saying it's more about winning than development. If you look at the heights and weights of the players you will see that the more physically developed players are rewarded, the late developers are overlooked aren't given much of a chance.
NJ Stallions Academy U11 Boys will be playing in the NEPAL (North East Pre-Academy league) in the 2015-16 season. We still have time for players to tryout, including a session this Thursday 11th June. To arrange an evaluation or if you have any questions, please contact Head Coach, Paul Nash at: email@example.com
So, now it looks like the consolidation has begun at the u15/16 academies in NJ. NJSA adding to its already large roster by also taking in players from CSA and MF and in some cases players from PDA as well. Good luck trying to make that work!
Red Bulls V CSA : Did anyone catch the Pre-Academy Final this past weekend ? Heard CSA up 2-0 with a missed PK? Overtime no score PK 5-4 to Red Bulls . Love some feedback heard CSA was the better team on the day really controlled the mid field BUT a tad unlucky.
Everything you heard was correct. Cedar Stars were the better team,they outplayed the Red Bulls. Interesting to see what these two teams will look like next season.
How many yellow/red cards does a player need to get before an academy looks at their programs responsibility to protect their opponent? Or look to discipline the player? Someone is going to get seriously hurt in a game or even training. The academy needs to show to all the players that they don't put up with this type of behavior and punish the player. Real punishment,not how they have handled it in the past. I know physical play is part of the game but when a player is continually excessive, it must be addressed.
Heard same thing of NJCSA U15/16. Almost 30 kids on the roster apparently. Good luck getting playing time over there next year. Cha-Ching!
It's a sad fact that many coaches encourage dirty play. They will do anything to win. It's no coincidence when you see dirty teams from the same club. It's the club's policy. Pretty sad that they teach kids to play like that.
PDA royalty can do what he wants including play dirty. What happens when he takes away someone's soccer future?
Poor results come from poor development, poor development comes from poor coaching, poor coaching comes from a poorly run organization. People say it's not about winning its about developing but if you are developing your players to win in a high level then you are most likely going to win. If your team does not win then they do not belong in such a competitive league.
Winning at the youth level does not equal development. A coach who wants immediate winning results picks the kids who reach physical maturity early and are faster and stronger right now. Most kids catch up in the future and a good coach understands that Those late bloomers may even be better players as adults. So until coaches and clubs prioritize development over winning at he youth level, the us National men's team will never be great.
You are correct on the coaches wrong thinking on picking more physical players but I have seen many times(when the coach is actually a smart developer), teams that have no physical attributes demolish physical teams even in the academy league because they understand the more efficient way to play soccer, in the long run, which is keeping the ball on the ground and mainly move it through the midfield until there is an opening to slip it through. There are times to dribble and there are times to pass but in my opinion there are never times to kick it up. Yes, you may say "would u rather lose the ball up the field or in your own half?" but in reality the way to learn the right soccer is to never kick it up. I would rather have an attempted pass or dribble then kick it up. And again, there are players such as pirlo who is known as a passing master who plays long ball but they are all for a PURPOSE. Many academy teams who play long don't play it long for a purpose. And even if you watch Pirlo's games he is constantly moving the ball throughout the back and the midfield. It is rare he plays a long pass and he only plays one when he is certain it will be beneficial.
It's a good coach who is a smart developer and doesn't write any player off. We need more like that. So parents, do research on your child's coach before you put him on that team. Find out if he values development over winning.
What ever happended to "State of Art" facilities at NJCSA. Has any explanation been given?
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