1:02This is an academy blog,unless PDA Shore is going to supply the academy team with some really good players, it does not matter. Everybody is now making mergers. Match Fit/Montclair, NJCSA/CSA, PDA/Shore and etc...
1:02. If girl yes, if boy no. Stick with Pda headquarters for boy as that is where quality boy training/coaches are, not at shore.
Girl's US Development academy does not exist. Maybe in the future.
Best academy for U16 girls?
U16G Soccer Blog
Could you explain further about the comments on PDA shore????
I don't know anything about PDA shore except there are no academy teams there. They may have a good girls program but academy teams are boys u14,u16,u18 at PDA north.
PDA Shore is 2 years new to the area. The teams have plenty of talent with dedicated coaches. It still needs to prove it's worth because it's fairly new,but it's certain it shouldn't take very long with the training, team standings and the talent I see coming from PDA Shore already. PDA north didn't become successful over night....food for thought
For 2015-16 Soccer Domain Football Club (SDFC) is creating a new u16 team for competition and showcasing. Since it's inception in 2009, SDFC (www.sdfc.us) has a rich tradition of preparing it's players (and families) for college through development and support on and off the field. We feel that this age group provides an opportunity to follow the path set by the SDFC Gauchos (high school class of 2014) and currently with the SDFC Rangers (high school class of 2017) who are currently ranked number 2 in Region 1 & number 1 in New Jersey, and third Nationally according to Gotsoccer.We will be hosting our first tryout on Thursday May 21st (8-9:30pm) at Newark Academy, Livingston. SDFC has identified Gary Adair as the potential coach for this age group. Gary holds the NSCAA Premier Diploma and a USSF National ‘A’ License and currently works with the u18 Force team and the u16 Rangers. The Rangers are currently regarded as a top National level team and have already qualify for the USYS National Championships in Tulsa, Oklahoma this summer. Apart from his SDFC work, Gary is the Assistant Head Coach at Manhattan College (Division 1 School - MAAC).For further information, please email email@example.com
Who cares about SDFC, this is an academy blog. No one is going to leave their academy team to be in a SDFC showcase team. LMAO!!!
any new tryout info?
NJCSA is a joke, we went down to the town of Plainfield with our u10 Academy team and we tied 2-2 ( we got lucky as they are a much stronger team than ours ) , in Indoor both our Academy teams got torn apart by the same Elite Plainfield team 1st game 14-2 2nd game 8-0 ... their field sucks but yet they have the right touch, tactics that not only beat us but other academies as well, my point is why am I paying close to 3K when I live 10 minutes away from where the Elite SC Plainfield practice and they charge what? 20% if that much of the cost for this, a couple more weeks of this and you know my son will be out of there.
You're right but I find it really upsetting that college coaches and others are impressed by the name NJCSA. Just because a player is there, there's an assumption that he's a great player. In reality, Elite SC Plainfield has better players but are college coaches interested?
College Coaches?!?!Who are you kidding.First off - College coaches do not go to watch NJCSA at any showcases or season matches. Unless they are watching from their cars, I have not seen any. Secondly, look at their list of graduates. The schools they are getting into are similar/worse than any good varsity high school player gets into.Thanks for the financial contribution - cha-ching!
May 28, 2015 at 11:08 AM Odd post. Number one, there is no u10 academy team, so you must be talking about the youth clubs that play in MAPS. Number two, NJCSA has not played Plainfield this season U10 MAPS. The MAPS U10 results show a NASA United team tying Plainfield 2 - 2. So either you don't know what team you are on or you are stirring the pot...
NJSA/NJCSA is a train wreck. But for TR it would have been stripped of academy status years ago. Anyone who can leaves after they become educated. Run, Dont walk
Yea, run, don't walk. But run to where? Except for the maybe 30 kids that make PDA/RBA for each age group, where do the other kids go? Run away from NJCSA for NJX or some other club team - I'm not so convinced. Yea, its a lot cheaper...
There is an assumption by many that NJCSA has something, I don't know what. Sure, they have academy status but their teams have mediocre or poor results, they have poor facilities (with empty promises of state of the art facilities being built,) and they charge more than most other clubs. Why do so many parents keep their kids there? Is it the fact that they're academy? Must be, even though they're broken.
Everyone is quick to bash NJCSA, but no one ever answers the question: Other than PDA/RBA, go where?
Academies currently have a monopoly of a very diluted product. Over the next few years, only the strongest will survive and there will then be more of a true system where most players play high school / club and only the special players with the most potential will play academy, as the system is truly intended to be. There just aren't enough well funded academies and good players to support the current system.
I think that the only real academies are the MLS academies. Club academies are mostly club teams. Many people think that any PDA or NJCSA or CSA or World class, etc. team is an academy team.
Philly Union and NYCFC have several feeder clubs who send over their best players. Eventually, all elite clubs will be feeder clubs for MLS academies, That's just my opinion.
I can understand the thought process behind this MLS comment BUT let's not forget about what happened with the RB last year. There were many talented players that were overlooked . A few ended up at neighboring clubs . i.e. Met Oval, Gottschee, and CSA. Gotta he currently ranked 12 (up from 17) in the country , CSA 6 ( from7) and RB 1 . After a few results the last few weeks those gaps should narrow. Plus these kids are see 70min of playing time dont think they would see that on RB roster.
What about FC Copa that trains at Rutgers?
What about them? Not academy.
5;54Where are those teams ranked? I thought academy teams weren't ranked.
Then there's the ongoing problem of quality and talent loss. -crappy coaches, poor trainers, scouts that got their positions for simply ridiculous reasons, people in charge for all the wrong reasons, under qualified parent-coaching, the list goes on and on. -so many ways for too many who are not what they should be to be selecting and working with what are supposed to be the most talented in the country. I love reading early articles about how the Academy was going to help address the problem of talent being missed in this country or how it would help retain talent often lost by the age of 14 that was too often replaced by those with early physical development. What a joke. I agree with the one poster saying over the next few years only the MLS Academies will survive, that seems pretty clear to be the future in some configuration or another. But I agree far more with the response about how much talent is being overlooked vs how only the special players w the most potential will remain and the rest will play HS and club (the example was talent being overlooked at RB.) When you think about the amount of talent that some very powerful and very small soccer nations put out and the quality of their many pro teams and academies vs their populations, which are minuscule in comparison to any large city in the US (even after taking football, bball, etc into account for those who want to make that argument,) there should be (and surely is) enough talent to support all the current Academy teams in the country and then some. There is a serious problem with overlooking and discarding talent in this country, and the USSDA hasn’t changed that. My personal opinion is that it isn't going to change ANY time in the near future.
If the academy system exists to develop the most talented players, why aren't all the players getting the same amount of playing time and game starts? This is saying it's more about winning than development. If you look at the heights and weights of the players you will see that the more physically developed players are rewarded, the late developers are overlooked aren't given much of a chance.
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So, now it looks like the consolidation has begun at the u15/16 academies in NJ. NJSA adding to its already large roster by also taking in players from CSA and MF and in some cases players from PDA as well. Good luck trying to make that work!
Red Bulls V CSA : Did anyone catch the Pre-Academy Final this past weekend ? Heard CSA up 2-0 with a missed PK? Overtime no score PK 5-4 to Red Bulls . Love some feedback heard CSA was the better team on the day really controlled the mid field BUT a tad unlucky.
Everything you heard was correct. Cedar Stars were the better team,they outplayed the Red Bulls. Interesting to see what these two teams will look like next season.
How many yellow/red cards does a player need to get before an academy looks at their programs responsibility to protect their opponent? Or look to discipline the player? Someone is going to get seriously hurt in a game or even training. The academy needs to show to all the players that they don't put up with this type of behavior and punish the player. Real punishment,not how they have handled it in the past. I know physical play is part of the game but when a player is continually excessive, it must be addressed.
Heard same thing of NJCSA U15/16. Almost 30 kids on the roster apparently. Good luck getting playing time over there next year. Cha-Ching!
It's a sad fact that many coaches encourage dirty play. They will do anything to win. It's no coincidence when you see dirty teams from the same club. It's the club's policy. Pretty sad that they teach kids to play like that.
PDA royalty can do what he wants including play dirty. What happens when he takes away someone's soccer future?
Poor results come from poor development, poor development comes from poor coaching, poor coaching comes from a poorly run organization. People say it's not about winning its about developing but if you are developing your players to win in a high level then you are most likely going to win. If your team does not win then they do not belong in such a competitive league.
Winning at the youth level does not equal development. A coach who wants immediate winning results picks the kids who reach physical maturity early and are faster and stronger right now. Most kids catch up in the future and a good coach understands that Those late bloomers may even be better players as adults. So until coaches and clubs prioritize development over winning at he youth level, the us National men's team will never be great.
You are correct on the coaches wrong thinking on picking more physical players but I have seen many times(when the coach is actually a smart developer), teams that have no physical attributes demolish physical teams even in the academy league because they understand the more efficient way to play soccer, in the long run, which is keeping the ball on the ground and mainly move it through the midfield until there is an opening to slip it through. There are times to dribble and there are times to pass but in my opinion there are never times to kick it up. Yes, you may say "would u rather lose the ball up the field or in your own half?" but in reality the way to learn the right soccer is to never kick it up. I would rather have an attempted pass or dribble then kick it up. And again, there are players such as pirlo who is known as a passing master who plays long ball but they are all for a PURPOSE. Many academy teams who play long don't play it long for a purpose. And even if you watch Pirlo's games he is constantly moving the ball throughout the back and the midfield. It is rare he plays a long pass and he only plays one when he is certain it will be beneficial.
It's a good coach who is a smart developer and doesn't write any player off. We need more like that. So parents, do research on your child's coach before you put him on that team. Find out if he values development over winning.
What ever happended to "State of Art" facilities at NJCSA. Has any explanation been given?
They are waiting for the 30 on each roster to pay the fees to free up some cash.
NJCSA will have 30 players in each roster and the team still will suck. They will continue to play the Owner's and the Coach's sons even though their are better players in the bench. They will also continue to play all the kids whose parents are friendly with the Coach or are favorite of DOT. Not a good way to run a club. But they are not the only club that does that. This is soccer in America for you.
you're correct! It sucks. How many talented players are never given the chance due to favoritism?
You are much better off playing high school soccer than "Academy" at NJCSA. The place is a joke, no college coaches at all care if u are at NJCSA, all coaches know it is a shit show there.
http://www.hamiltongirlssoccer.com/Default.aspx?tabid=827440can somebody tell me what this means, are they an academy now?rush way coaching methodology? , what qualifications are there coaches?
im an NJCSA parent of many years. Ive read these NJCSA negative comments above. They are absolutely correct. NJCSA is poorly managed. At every level possible it accepts any player with a check...no matter that the play cant play. This dumbs down the training experince for the truly technical and talented players. The numbers of players at traiings are so large that evan a talented trainer is ineffective. This then transaltes onto gameday field where the athletes defend with their lives and do park the bus. The technical players get no respect and the coaches have no faith in those players to posess the ball and play the proper game. If youd like evidence of NJCSA ability to develop players, look no further than this upcoming seasons pre acad and acad rosters. only a minuscule amount of home grown players have made the teams when the Acadmey years roll around. CSA sent a bunch of technical players to the tryout and showed that two tocuh soccer with high soccer IQ players is the way to play and is the indication of proper training. NJCSA certainly has its share of solid technical players... but they have no future at NJCSA and should look elsewhere for development and fair opportunity... and ENJOYMENT of the game. It is not there at any age group for NJCSA. As far as parents just wanting to say their kids play for academy... i think thats insulting. like all parents, we want whats best for our kids and put them in that situation... the parents are told/fooled into the idea that an acdemy is the best place for their kids. and most NJCSA parents realize that their players are not good enough to be on PDA,CSA,RedBUlls, Union, but believe that Academy gets a pathway to College. Its not an ego thing. Any ego is squaashed at NJCSA after the first year of 0 wins and 20 losses. Its a parent buying into a program as pitched by very persuasive arguments that prey on parental ignorance. the PDA,CSA,RB,UNION program is better than NJCSA without question. To argue otherwise, seems silly. but rather than argue that... i think its important to objectively evaluate all of these program. And honest parent interclub discussions create a great information base for parents new to the game.
'As far as parents just wanting to say their kids play for academy... i think thats insulting. like all parents, we want whats best for our kids and put them in that situation..'Why is this insulting? If the parents believe that this place is the best for their kids but continue to put up with the list of injustices provided your kids, how can this be nothing but the truth? So parents put up with poor training, large rosters, no development because they believe this is the best place to be? To be for what? Other than a parent being able to say that my kid is playing for an Academy, I cannot understand why else you would stay.The truth shouldn't be considered insulting.
PDA is no better than njcsa. 1/2 of the u15 academy left.. Wonder why??? It is such a shame where is the player development??? Not there either. All about money...and favoritism..
I disagree, they are much better as shown by their style of play against njcsa no denying it
The players get better training there no doubt, but there is plenty of favoritism there.
6:05pm, Style of play? Is that style fouling? PDA royalty able to do what they want and you claim no favoritism? Very confused on what you see on the pitch. I see a team that is taught to play overly aggressive and dirty.
I heard that NYCFC has a new academy. Does anyone know if they will have teams in Academy league starting in the fall?
Good post by "July 9, 2015 at 11:25 AM." As an NJCSA parent I do not brag about who my son plays for. In fact, I am a bit embarrassed due to the reputation of the club. So the ego argument is total nonsense.My son went from a typical town club team to NJCSA. I think he is better off at NJCSA than the town team. The reason I stay at NJCSA is I guess potential. I see no reason why, if they get their act together, they should not be a top notch organization. Of course they are not, and I see from the inside a lot of their problems and how they are not so easy to fix. The hope that CSA management will come in and clean house is prevalent amongst the parents here. I see it happening, but far to slow for my liking.The main problem I see at NJCSA is player talent level. Lots of mediocre kids. The good kids have to play with the mediocre ones far too long. The talented ones would be better off playing with a higher level of talent across the board. But I don't see a real gaping hole in the quality of coaching. With the kids NJCSA has, it just won't beat RBA/PDA/etc. on a regular basis even if Jose Mourinho is coach. But lets face it, PDA has PDA South, PDA Shore, etc., so they are just as guilty of the money grab as NJCSA. They have the main PDA squad that excels so that gets them off the hook.
I agree with your response. But as I cannot do the CSA/PDA/RBA trek 3 times a week, I am left with the reality of "where else do I go that is better?" I think they make their living off that, where else are Monmouth/Ocean kids going to go? The only local kids I know who can go up to PDA/CSA are very well off and have moms/dads who can drop everything for junior's soccer practice.I am actually sick of seeing NJCSA shoot itself in the foot on a consistent basis. Its like if there are 99 right decisions they will pick number 100 which is the wrong one. I have seen many talented kids leave and the poor ones stay. I am a supporter, but even I am one foot out the door.What would be useful is not NJCSA bashing, but letting everyone know what honest alternatives there are in the area to NJCSA. I'm all ears!
I would honestly go look at a competitively ranked town team if NJCSA is your only recourse.Go see the training. See what the quality of the players and training is. Ask the coach/manager what the team is doing to get the players noticed for college. Do they attend Showcases. Do they travel to out of state tournaments or only do the same old local ones year after year. Do they have a college mentor working with the boys to ensure they are taking the proper steps to getting noticed by colleges. I've seen more college coaches at top ranked town teams than I have at NJCSA games because everyone is trying to find the diamond in the rough who is not at an academy.I'm sure there is more but you get the drift.
Thanks for the input!
Find a solid club team and play at a good high school program. Nothing will change. Sorry, the truth.
No one has much of a choice when it comes to high school soccer. My son doesn't like his high school team and doesn't want to play on it. The only other option is an expensive private school.
Life's not fair is it?
I have to praise the kids who constantly are put aside due to favoritism and politics and yet still pursue soccer. Those are the players that REALLY love soccer. The players that actually hate it when their daddy's and mommy's get involved to keep them on a team or to start them, they want to earn it themselves and it's a shame that in America that's not possible unless you are physically dominate but those physical guys go no where without technicality and a great soccer brain. Think about the players we would produce without favoritism or worry of physicality. As a parent watching good players out there that don't get chances to show that they are good just kills me. They play bad because they get 5 minutes of playing time but I am certain if they started they would be as confident as can be and play so well. Imagine a soccer world without politics and favoritism.
I think it is terrible to give kids 5 minutes of playing time. Why put the kid in at all? What kind of message is the coach sending? I think the coaches are just following the DOT's orders so I don't think you can trust anyone at NJCSA. You have to suck up to the DOT and feed his ego to get anywhere there.
Are all the academy teams free now?
pre academy isn't
Anyone have any info on the new u16 team that NEPAL is adding this year? I heard some of the academies are making teams in this age group? PDA and NJCSA are two of the clubs??
I see a lot of njcsa bashing but what about the other academies. PDA for one is not as great as everyone thinks. Practices are so weak and never changing. Same thing week after week. Why did so many boys leave especially from their u15 age group if they were so strong and committed to their players. RB kids get cut by at least 1/2 team every year. It is the same BS everywhere. Parents need to find a good place where their kids are happy and can play. That is what's important.
The fact that college team rosters have so many foreign players on them says that college coaches do not have too much faith in our development system.
NEPAL teams only go by odd age groups: u13, u15, u17. There's no u16 NEPAL team that I know of; for U16, it would either be an Academy team or a club/EDP team.
NJCSA/Cedar Stars hired a new Director of Soccer recently to manage both organizations. What is a Directory of Soccer exactly? Is this the same as Director of Coaching? I'm just wondering what will happen to the current DOC for NJCSA.
Help me soccer people. Look, I don't know anything about the ins and outs of soccer clubs. I read blogs and sometimes feel like I drank the magic koolaid and am about to throw up now that I know what's in it. We had our 7 year old try out for pda and she made it. Considering the costs of other extracurricular activities the $2000 total seemed expensive but doable. Now I keep getting things with extra costs. But they don't tell you outright the costs. Can anyone who went thru the club for u10 under give me their costs. My main concern are the fundraisers.
Welcome to pay to play! My child played at the local town club until u12. I didn't see any point to a big, expensive, professional club until my son was really enthusiastic about the sport.
CSA is doing fine but NJCSA needs all the help they can get. CSA should just dissolve NJCSA and start over.
July 20, 10:10CSA is not doing fine, where did you get that from? Just go ask the parents over there, how happy they really are. They are both the same organization, and they just hired a director of soccer operations to oversea both teams, that will really fix things (LOL). If don't hear anything from there, that does not mean their aren't issues.
NJCSA and CSA are separate organizations with the same owner, Different management and coaching staffs. Maybe they will be one in the future. I don't know what the Director of soccer is supposed to do.
The Director of Soccer is the main soccer guy for both organizations, sort of like a director of coaching but higher.
NJCSA trying to move their much hyped about facility into Tinton Falls. Rumor has it they offered the town $1 mil so they could build turf fields. NJCSA did not even have the courtesy to discuss with the town soccer club. Class act from a class organization.
OMG people, this is a child's sport! We found NJCSA because frankly we were tired of the "daddy coaching" and playing favorites on a club team. Since being with NJCSA, we have experienced all kinds of coaches. We were thrilled by some of the coaches as our son absolutely connected with them and their styles and were less thrilled with others. Like teachers in school, sometimes your child clicks and sometimes not, but one of the great things about being with a large organization that takes coaching seriously, there are always other coaches that your child can connect with and superiors that you can voice concerns to. These teams are not stuck with one coach, who stays with the team, year after year, who may be holding a grudge OR who may not allow your child to grow into their full potential because they see the uncoordinated 9 year old, not the powerful and confident 13 year old. College is about academics people. Soccer is secondary. Thinking otherwise is putting the cart before the horse. Shame on you for focusing on the sport over the education. Soccer should enhance your child, not be the whole picture. The Academy programs provide our children the opportunity to play at higher levels not only on the pitch but in their sense of respect and appreciation for a game that the world sees as THE game. What other sport has Laws, not rules? Tab Ramos is one of the best soccer players of all times and frankly the fact that we see him on TV is inspiring to my son. It moves him to double his efforts on the pitch, as he has a real goal (no pun intended) to strive for. Regarding the facility, we have NEVER been promised a "state of the art facility" by anyone associated with NJCSA or NJSA before that. The coaches have always told us that they don't know the details, period. No one started a try out with "hey, we are glad you are here, we want you to look at the plans for our state of the art facility and hope you will contribute by having your child play for us." They introduced the philosophy of the program as being player development and growth. "Shiny new facility" was not part of the speech. We came to NJSA before the facility was discussed, we have been here during the Holmdel/Colts Neck attempt and we will stay through the Tinton Falls opportunity. If you came for the "state of the art facility" we don't have one. If that's why you're here, you are welcome to stick it out and see where the next chapter goes, but do me a favor, focus on the game, not where it's being played. It's going to be a long year (or more) for you training at Tab's facility and all the other places we go to. If you choose to stay, then invest in the program. If you choose to go, go. You are welcome to go somewhere there is fresh paint and a nice sign out front, I would rather have the better program than the better building. For us, we are ok practicing on borrowed turf and rented fields where we are seeing amazing player development and talented players we are proud to consider our son's peers. We brought our son here to grow a young man in a sport and a program that teaches respect, personal growth and development and pride in teamwork. We chose not to go to a program whose philosophy was "win at all costs." For all the parents who are looking to promote growth and development, NJCSA is for you. If you are of the "win at all costs" variety, we wish you well at another program. We hope you find what you are looking for and that when that does not work out, you consider NJCSA in the future. We will still be here.
I'm glad you're happy there but I don't see how you can possibly say they are not trying to win at all costs. Why are they playing some kids 5 min. when others play the entire game?
Without having more (or asking for more) information, our experience is as follows: at the younger ages, the boys were expected to play EVERY position on the field and not required to specialize. They were provided with training that taught them how to distribute the ball on a field, literally where to stand and how to move the ball around. Their play time was based on how hard they were trying, NOT their ability levels. As they got older and started to show proficiencies to play in different positions, they were put on the field, and played based on a coach's instructions and they were left on the field, if they followed those instructions. Players were consistently removed from the field (and continue to be) when they do not follow the coach's instructions. Best case scenario is when a coach takes the substitution, talks to the player about what they need to be doing differently/better and then puts them back in. Failure to follow directions results in removal from the field. They are players and they are kids and they need direction. If you look at the ODP requirements, one of the big things they look at is "coachability." If a player is not coachable, they will not learn and they will not grow. Remember also that many of your players do not peak until their late teens or early twenties. NJCSA seeks to grow the player, but they have to follow directions to learn. Again - think like school - this is an education, not a show case. Now, there are leagues (like the summer program Super Y) where the goal absolutely is to win - at all costs - and they were VERY clear when we signed on for the summer program that if your son is not performing, he will not be playing. This is a highly competitive league that goes to finals in Florida in December - not the norm during the school year at all. We knew when we agreed to put him on the team, that he was expected to perform. If we wanted him to play at a more relaxed level and have "game time" for the summer, we would have put him into a less competitive league - which NJCSA offers, or go to another summer select program. There are several in the Monmouth/Ocean area to choose from. No one in the Super Y program ever guaranteed a specific amount of game time for any player on the field. They were brutally honest, at the beginning of the summer, that this was how the team would be run. We chose to have him play anyway, knowing that we might be driving hours at a time to get to the games, only to have him sit the bench. He knew the possibility and chose to do it anyway. I would also add, that it has been our experience that during the school year, the coaches provide written feedback to the players twice a year. This feedback helps us focus him on what he needs to work on and what he is doing well. If we have had a concern, the coach was available by email. Sometimes we liked the response and sometimes it was brutally honest about what needed to be improved upon. By following the instructions given, we saw improvement. Failure to follow directions meant he was not improving. Every time. As I said earlier, there are plenty of opportunities for kids to play soccer. Now more than ever. Your child needs to find a program that works for them and for you. Our experience with the high standards of instruction has been positive. If you are not comfortable with the philosophy of the program, then you should seek something that works better for you and your son.
Thanks for your thoughts Director of soccer operations. Sounds like wishful thinking to me. I never experienced anything like that at NJCSA. Good Luck!
"Anonymous" is an NJCSA coach looking to keep teh gravy train running there be fleecing gullible parents. No one who actually knows soccer stays there mor than a season, two at most. They thrive on fleecing the unknowing. RUN FROM NJCSA...........DONT WALK.
NJCSA and CSA have merged their U15 Pre-Academy teams and will be playing under NJCSA as one; good luck with that. CSA was a middle of the tier team at U14 and NJCSA fared even worse, adding these two together may not make the team better, it should only add on the number of players on the roster ($$$$$). Lots of kids fighting for playing time. A few of the U14s from CSA and NJCSA will move up to play U16, but unless these guys are World class players the NJCSA U16 team may not do very well either. Just look at their record at U15 Pre-Academy this past season. Also, rumor has it, that a couple of CSA's top U14 players will not be coming back and a few others will be playing EDP with the CSA team out of Newark (I wonder why). Good lucky to all the players and parents embarking in this exiting adventure.
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All I want too know is, how do you lose your top players? It is not like their is a revolving door for top players around the Academies or even regular club teams. Shouldn't the goal be to keep your top players and get rid of dead weight.
'They introduced the philosophy of the program as being player development and growth' - and how exactly is this measured? By their acceptance into top soccer colleges or their yearly climb up the ranks of their leagues? 'I would rather have the better program than the better building. For us, we are ok practicing on borrowed turf and rented fields where we are seeing amazing player development and talented players we are proud to consider our son's peers.' - again how is this amazing development measured? 'If you are of the "win at all costs" variety, we wish you well at another program' - have you never seen them play the RB or any top academy? Parking the bus to keep games close is not development and it is a win (or put on a good showing) at all cost mentality.' the coaches provide written feedback to the players twice a year. This feedback helps us focus him on what he needs to work on and what he is doing well. If we have had a concern, the coach was available by email.' - Apparently you have never had the DOT as a coach. He told a parent once that if they wanted a review they would have to make an appointment to ask him - that he was too busy to just do them all. And this was for a team he coached! And take that feedback with a grain of salt. I have seen kids with 9's and 10's with great performance reviews for several years get cut and be told that they were being 'carried for several years and are not academy material'. How in the world do you give kids 9's and 10's and then have the audacity to tell parents that they were not academy material and they were being carried for several years? I will tell you why - to blow smoke up their arses and kept the money coming in until you find better players. Because they know if they ranked these kids at 5's, 6's or 7's they would have saved the money and went back to town teams.Be wary of this organziation - it's all roses when your young but once they know you are in for a few years it gets really rough at the older age groups in terms of player development.
I don't think there are any academies in the US that are 100% about player development. Everyone is too worried about winning. NYCFC has the right idea with their youth development league. There are NO Scores posted.
Unfortunately, most only learn after its too late and you wasted your time and money and your son's playing career. Shame on those that take advantage of the people trying to do the right thing in a lopsided system favoring those that kiss ass and those that collect the $.
I do agree that all academies are not perfect (including Red Bulls and PDA) but when you keep making the same mistakes over and over that is not good. The post above mentioned that a couple of CSA's top players will not be returning this fall. So how does an organization let that happen. Also when you have a roster of over 22 kids; how do you develop players. So far I have not heard anything in this blog that makes me think that the NJCSA/CSA merger has made either organization any better.
I would like to see smaller rosters and more teams but I think money is the reason this can't happen. Clubs don't want to pay for more coaching and whatever other costs are involved. USSDA should be giving more financial resources to develop players. Why should players have to go to other countries to get quality training? When I hear about US kids training abroad and US national teams chasing after them, I wonder What's wrong with this picture?
Unfortunately, large rosters add to the money pot wherever you are.Take look at some of the top Club Teams and they are doing the same thing. If there is a demand to be on the team they will take the money in an instant and carry 20 - 25 players.
The adults in charge have their own agendas. They're not looking out for the child's best interests. Good players are overlooked all the time in this system.
July 27, 2015 3:50 PM.I do agree that good players are being overlooked all the time in this system. Besides that, every academy/club you go to, the coach has his favorites, and they get pushed up the chain and other players who may be better get pushed to the side. Over sees you get scouted at games; here you attend a US Market Training Center for 2 hours and when you get there half of the kids are from the Red Bulls, Philly and the scouts already have some players from those clubs in mind and all the other kids are basically just there to fill spots.
Really frustrating but that's the way it is. The worst thing about it all is that some kids get really hurt and discouraged in the process.
Did you ever play soccer in high school or college? Even if you only played for 5 minutes, that automatically qualifies you to be a coach at NJCSA. You do not need to have a high level soccer coaching license, you do not need any teaching skills, you do not need to care or put any effort into developing soccer players. Knowledge of teaching technical and tactical skills or improving player psychology are not material. By the way, it does help if you know the coaching director... In that case you automatically qualify to coach at NJCSA.
That is true for NJCSA. They had father coaching there who never even played soccer. He played football.He did, however, have three sons playing there and hsi wife worked in office. I guess that is where he got his knowledge. He knows nothing whatsoever about the game, other than playing his daughter -- yes daughter -- on boys team to which club turned a blind eye. No doubt the trade off was he did not get paid. He was a complete fool yet they had him coaching more than one team. If you complained about his antics and utter lack of knowledge..... well you know the rest: loss of playing time for child suddenly, blacklisted, "club team" the usual.
Not my experience at NJCSA by a long shot. All good coaches so far...
Most of the posts here are about how bad NJCSA is, but that's not my experience with them either. My son had one bad coach, but they eventually got rid of him. Many other clubs have bad coaches as well.I'm looking forward to a good season; I'm familiar with most of the kids on the new roster and they are very good players; and whoever said that there are 30+ kids on the roster doesn't have his/her facts straight. I'm not friends with the coach, nor the DOC, and my son has been getting adequate playing time. There will always be favorites, but I think if your son plays hard and smart and trains well with the team and on his own and is coachable, he will get noticed and will be played on games.
Thanks for the update from management. So obvious...
All academies have favoritism, bad coaches and issues, but at least the other academies are winning. At the end of the day if you don't win, it shows. Players, parents and critics all want results and the results at CSA\NJCSA are not good.
what I don't get is how an organization like CSA, allow a couple of their best U14 players to leave (as stated on July 23, 2015 at 3:58 PM). CSA had some talent on that team, their were a few excellent players on that roster. As an organization, you either are not doing enough to keep these players or your not running things the right way. This is definitely going to show in the U15 and U16 NJCSA games this fall.
You can only over promise under deliver for so long until better options are taken.
I just googled that coach you are talking about and he ended up at PDA.
The European youth development system is so much better. Why doesn't the us just copy that model and use it for themselves?
The coach that is at PDA now was probably the best coach NJCSA had. The real story is a bunch of parents didn't like it when the coach made teenage players responsible for their actions. Typical kids with privilege being protected by their helicopter parents. I'm not part of NJCSA but know the real story, not the crap that is posted on this blog. You NJCSA parents get what you deserve. A poorly run program with bad teams.
Is this DG the ex- PDA Shore breaker coach because he is no longer the coach. PDA let him go.
Is this DG the ex- PDA Shore breaker coach because he is no longer the coach. PDA let him go.
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