Friday, February 19, 2016

Academy Soccer

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51 comments:

Anonymous said...

1:31
Yes, ECNL is the academy level soccer for girls, but it is not run by US Soccer, so US Soccer has no CONTROL of it. So this is one of the reasons US Soccer wants to start an Academy for the girls.

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Anonymous said...

Topdrawer soccer updated their boys u15 rankings. Philadelphia Union isn't even in the top 25. It does not reflect well on their ability to field a competitive team for next years u16 age group. As an academy you would think they would get top talent and be competitive on a national level. I was surprised to not see them ranked higher.

Anonymous said...

How does someone get selected for the IMG Academy 150 player pool. Do you attend IMG or do you get scouted while playing club?

Any explanation on this would be appreciated.

Anonymous said...

It's political! National pool players are selected and we know they can't get those players right but no argument that they should be in the top 150. Then after that its who you know. Each age has errors in the selection. It's supposed to be that players are selected from coaches other than yours.

Anonymous said...

wow...that is discouraging.

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that Antonio Meza has been relieved of his duties as DOC/DOT over at NJCSA. Guess the almighty one could not even save himself let alone the organization. ;-)

Anonymous said...

Good Riddance

Anonymous said...

and Red Bulls got rid of Bob Montgomery er, well, they "reassigned' him -
http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/new-york-red-bulls-announce-restructuring-of-youth-development-system/

Good riddance there too

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the academy evaluations have anything to do with the firings...

Anonymous said...

NJCSA needs to continue to clean house. Got rid of Meza. Next to go is their other Academy coach. PDA dominated both 16s and 18s yesterday- now coached by the same guy. NJCSA parents at the game tell me if you aren't one of his favorite 3 or 4 players, he completely destroys the kids' confidence - so much for this level being about development. Apparently not for this guy. I could certainly say that two 2nd half goals in the 16s game were a direct result of defensive substitutions he made. They have some good players but won't go far with this coach.

Anonymous said...

NJCSA 18's lost cause but 16's are in the playoffs
PDA 18s long tradition of excellence, 16's struggling other than win yesterday- do you say they should fire PDA's 16's coach too?

MLS academies continue to draw top talent - how long till they split DA into MLS/non MLS divisions?

Anonymous said...

NJSA's coaches have always favored Latino players. I hope the new owner and US Soccer realize that there is no room for racial bias in the DA.

Anonymous said...

Why was Mesa terminated at njcsa? Where is he now?

Anonymous said...

Players with talent, and who could, left the club in droves. At least the club held him accountable for the failures during his time there.

Anonymous said...

or the club used him as a scapegoat for its own failures - It lost a vibrant girls program, took forever to secure fields and wasn't able to sustain its own tournament. No coach is perfect. Mesa wasn't. But where is the accountability for the board and administration?

Anonymous said...

I think it is going to be known as Cedar Stars Monmouth starting this fall. Totally being run by Altirs. Is that correct?

Anonymous said...

Why is Cedar Stars academy split between North and South Jersey? Will they be one academy or remain separate? There's a cedar stars Newark division also. Confusing.

Anonymous said...

The multi locations fit a larger club ambition. If you look at the PDA model, (which works so I am not bashing) you need many, many younger teams to financially support a free academy- and to pull talented players from. One of the reasons NJSA/NJCSA now Cedar Stars Academy had struggled to obtain consistently high numbers of quality players was tuition. The pay-to-play dynamic forces management(coaches etc) to keep players others might have let go - AND - to lose players to free academies. Altiers influence does seem to be taking over and seems like a positive step.

Altiers helped with the facility issue also. By having North/South and Newark the pool of players and the financial support for the academy side gets better and better. The Newark team consists of mostly St. Benedicts' high school players - resolving how they can play high school AND academy would be interesting (like Shattuck Saint Mary and IMG academy who have true residential programs thru high school). In the meantime,better facilities coupled with sound finances suggests that Altiers is moving the Cedar Stars in the right direction (large pool of players with good facilities and removing pay to play seem like laudible goals) If achieved, NJ would have 3 academies providing free programming. Hope it works.

Anonymous said...

What will be Tab's involvement going forward?

Anonymous said...

hope he sticks with it but in reality TR is too busy with MNT and probably looking for a MLS/college team to coach - as recently as Nov. 2015 he was in running for top job with MLS Chicago Fire - http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/11/05/report-us-u-20-national-team-boss-tab-ramos-top-candidate-chicago-fire-coaching-job
so probably doing 'face' for Altiers' club but little real involvement

Anonymous said...

Did not know NJCSA board trolls this site and posts self serving aggrandizements.......who would've known.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad the NJCSA acknowledges public issues and wants to make improvements. Good Luck!

Anonymous said...

US Men's soccer team didn't qualify for the Olympics again. US wonder boy Matt Miazga was given a red card.

Anonymous said...

turns out its not just we on this blog who think that something's wrong with the DA (and USSF) approach that 'feeds' players to US national teams which can't compete. the article below argues improvements in scouting, funding and facilities are needed so maybe the thoughts above about Altirs are not "aggrandizement" but a recognition of long term problems.

http://www.howlermagazine.com/whats-wrong-america-spring-2016/

Although the article defends Jurgen in general, I'd love to hear how Pulisic gets a senior team cap on the same night when the u23s really needed him. Are we so worried about him getting"cap-tied" that we sacrifice the olympic cycle? Without large clubs providing free training, the DA will never 'produce' players - rather it will get lucky once in a while with players like Pulisic and otherwise our national teams will be filled with players that grew up overseas and received better training there.

Anonymous said...

What is the rule on Academy and HS soccer? How come some play academy and HS and others are not allowed? What is the loophole that allows it?

Anonymous said...

I believe that vouchers are given to academy players to play in high school if the player is attending a private high school and is receiving any scholarship money from the school towards playing soccer.

Anonymous said...

So you can play both. Why dont people do it, meaning all.

Anonymous said...

12:26

Like he said, you have to be playing for a private high school and receiving scholarship from that school. If you are attending public schools, you are not allowed.

Anonymous said...

Anyone playing for a private school can easily say they are receiving a scholarship. Hello, Mr. Athletic Director, I play for Red Bulls now but if you still want me for your HS team just give me some simple assistance and I can. Can not be that easy.

Anonymous said...

Try this - In the Spring/Summer during tryouts, do not sign any card or paperwork from the Academy you want to have your kid play for in the following season - currently the 2016/2017 upcoming season.
Play the High School year
Come back to the Academy after HS season ends (late October-mid November depending on run in State tournament)
Get carded as a DP (developmental player) thru the end of the Fall Academy season. Move over to FT status in the Spring

Or you can get a full waiver from the club and academy - I think there were only 5 given in the whole country.

Anonymous said...

I think waivers are an academy's dirty little secret. They don't want player's playing HS soccer.

Anonymous said...

No they don't want kids playing high school- they want to control coaching and training but riddle me this - Isn't the college game closer to high level high school than academy? Physical and quick? Technical? or is it a combination of both? USSF wants to take the top 1% from the academy to play for the USMNT (and good for those players). The real dirty secret is the sacrifice made by the 99% to support that 1%. Time spent at 3/4 nights a week practice plus weekend games plus 5/6 day 'showcases' in distant states for 11 months a year for the shot at a D1 program and the even more distant scholarship. Not sure the cost/benefit makes sense - especially when you see 1-2 recruiting spots at most high level college programs taken by kids from overseas who never heard of the DA.

If I had to do again, would have my guy play High School and figure out if spring academy season could still be done

Anonymous said...

4.4.16 9:50 hit the nail on the head. That is the simple reality and parents need to put their ego/vacarious glory in check and stop sacrificing the well being of their child. One other thing, that "scholarship" will be a 1/4, 1/3 or if a superstar 1/2 of the full monty.

Anonymous said...

Fine, having a kid in an Academy is akin to slave labor and child abuse.

The ECNL is planning on starting a boys side similar to their "top level" girls league. You'll probably get to play in high school as well. It will be "pay for play" so if you have the $$$, there will be other options.

Anonymous said...

Money grab by ECNL. They're going to lose a lot of girls to academy once a girls academy starts. They have to make up for the loss of dollars.

Anonymous said...

No need for it but it will work for a couple of years anyway.

Anonymous said...

As a parent who has been with NJSA04- thru NJCSA- Now transitioning to Cedar Stars - Monmouth- it has been challenging. Playing on bad fields, lack of communication, and other issues led to many very talented players leaving the system. With the news released yesterday- New World Class Facilities- 6 fields, futsal courts, Ferdinando De Matthaeis now at the top of the coaching pyramid, new youth academy director announced. This will be the beginning of a massive operation and Altirs deserves a ton of credit. He is fortunate to have a ton of money, and he is investing it in youth soccer. His track record of helping indigent families is much revered.
The bottom line is C NJ now will have the best facilities, the best coaches, and will be able to recruit the most elite players in C NJ. Why drive all the way to Zarepeth? Very exciting days- the town programs that are still busy playing daddy ball, chasing points for rankings, underdeveloping their talent now need to wake up and realize they are not academies - align yourself for the future- development and fun should be the start.
Thank you Altirs and Tab for finally bringing C NJ out of the dark ages

Anonymous said...

Let's see what really happens...

Anonymous said...

I hear you, I am optimistic though. Hope you have a great experience wherever your kids may be- all the best

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Anonymous said...

Does anybody know of any rumors coming out of Philly Union Academy?

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars- Monmouth had over 300 kids at tryouts on Thursday night- if you build it they will come. Word is U16 and U18 academy teams will be on scholarship to rival MLS academies and eventually U14's too.
Very exciting days ahead for Monmouth County and true develpmental model for youth soccer.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know how many of the new Academy teams they will have at Cedar Stars-Monmouth? 2004s,2003,2002s, etc?

Or will some of those teams be solely based up in Bergen?

Anonymous said...

both Monmouth and Bergen have 2004's, 2003's, and 2002's this year. U12, U13, and U14 respectively.

Bergen is only approved thru USSF for up to U14. Monmouth is the domicile up to U16 and U18

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Anonymous said...

NJCSA U16s are still undefeated against MLS academy teams. They just tied Red Bulls 2-2 yesterday.

Anonymous said...

Still not in playoffs

Anonymous said...

close

Anonymous said...

U 14's also tied Red Bulls on Saturday.

Anonymous said...

That is not bad for NJCSA U16 team. They are actually not a bad team.