Congrats Empire. Represent Region1 well.
Can't always expect the coyotes to be perfect. I expect them to be extremely well prepared for nationals - they play the best soccer in the country. Go region 1 teams!
My daughter plays for the Stallions. Hats off to the coyotes, they are the best team in region 1 !!!! Anyone else debating other teams (besides us and coyotes) is laughable. LOL
The Coyote talk is great. They have lost 5 games in regulation since June 2011(25 months). Sounds like a team in real trouble. Nobody can win all of the time.
Coyotes and stallions live in the past.New sheriff this year. Tip your cap like others have done for each of you!Congratsulations to fc bucks and empire for a great season. Best of luck to all 3 teams left going to nationals. Represent region 1 and bring back the hardware in both organizations.
Not affiliated with Stallions, but they will or should be in National League this coming fall, selected for one of the open slots. In my opinion, the chances of that not happening are very remote, and rightfully so.
Funny, one sentence claims a team lives in the past and the next wishes them good luck in nationals. Sounds like they live in the present and future.
It all depends on who applies. The teams below have already qualified, so there are only 3 spots available if these teams apply. I imagine they all will, but maybe Spurs doesn't. I'm sure Albion, Legends, Beach FC, PWSI, Stallions and a few other high level teams will apply for the at large spots, so someone will be left on the outside looking in.Region 1 is PDA Spurs, Empire, MSCRegion 2 is Eclipse, Ambassadors, WAZA and KCU RangersRegion 3 is Tampa, Liverpool, Tennessee, TophatRegion 4 is Carlsbad, South Bay Force
So no-one answered my question in regards to why doesn't region 1 play a qfinals game instead of going right to semis? Other regions do and it seems that it should be the case across all region's one way or another. A good example was this past weekend. You have the 2 best teams who drew eachother in bracket play that both would of advanced as top 2 in bracket. Before you go getting your panties in a bunch I am thinking future. Meaning next year. I can almost promise you that if 8 teams played playoffs empire and pwsi both wouldn't have made it to finals and those 2 teams in finals qualified for national league which to imo stallions deserve to play in that league but could now possible missed going because those 2 tops teams drew in bracket play.Thoughts?
Small Correction to list above...KCU Rangers did not qualify.R1 MSC, PDA Spurs, EmpireR2 Eclipse, Waza, AmbassadorsR3 Tampa Bay, Tophat, Liverpool, Tennessee R4 Carlsbad, South Bay, BoiseOpen 3 slotsBoth finalists in R1 Championships don't qualify, only winner. The Premier League champion and runnerup both qualify and similar in other regions. I do agree it makes sense to have qtrfinals for reasons mentioned -- though it might require a break given the # of games in a row. I think other regions that have qtrfinals did have a day or two break before semis and finals.
I would think that Albion would be a lock if they apply because they won ECNL, CAS state cup, Surf Cup and semi-finalist in region 4 tournament and league. I'm sure USYS would want them because of their history with ECNL. As far as stallions are concerned it all depends on what USYS soccer values more. Do they value PWSI's showing in Region 1 premier league and finalist performance in regionals or Stallions Jeff Cup and Dallas cup performance? The decision to not play region 1 premier league might hurt them. All speculation at the moment, but I think its highly likely that one of those two teams won't get accepted if the automatic qualifiers apply. Also highly likely that a team like Boise doesn't apply. ECNL's new championship format is much improved and more thoughtful than USYS. I will give them credit for that. It's just smart to seed the teams and draw them into pools. Having the playoffs at 5000 feet was stupid, but I digress. It's just dumb to not seed the teams. Why have a group with three or four of the best teams in it. You only water down your elimination games and finals.
Year end review ...who are your top 5 and why? What changed from last year to this? What makes these teams separate from all others?
Simple - Stars, Bucks, PDA, MSC and Stallions. They win!!
The problem with stallions is they can't score against good teams pure and simple. They don't have anyone up front that is dangerous. They have a very talented bench but lack any good finishers. Too bad, nice team.
I disagree. I think they have one of if not the best striker in all of NJ. Only other comparable pure finisher is pda girl. They both are top 5 in this region.
How many teams in this region have great finishers? They are hard to come by.
I know who your talking about she lack composure in front of the net hopefully she can overcome that.
So according to GotSoccer Stallions have 119 goals in 46 games (18 goals given up). So who is scoring all the goals? Seems like someone is doing a good job.
Obviously your daughter
Are you kidding me with comparing Stallions striker to PDA striker? Not even close mom! Not taking anything away from Stallions girl. She is very good, but PDA girl is at another level by herself in NJ.
No, not even my daughter's team. Just find it amusing to see what people who obviously know little about what makes up a good forward have to say when faced with the numbers of goals scored by this team. You said it was an excellent team with a strong bench but it had no real threat upfront. That's a lot of goals scored by a good team with no real attacking forwards. So either the midfield and fullbacks are working extra hard or you are mistaken about the effectiveness of the forwards.
Best striker is in pf followed by pda striker who plays a year up. After that toss up between 5 girls through out region
pda striker does not play up. plays on grade.very different. this Fall sophomores better be playing u-16. College scouts/recruiters hate players playing down the grade.
Pda striker at start of u16 (aug) will still be 14 years old. She was born in 99. Get your facts straight. Wont even be 15 to 2014. How olds your daughter?
@ 9:14 - Why bother trying to explain to the knuckleheads on this forum? Those of us who know her and the Arsenal know the truth.
Dude it's ok, lots of players should being playing on grade , not age. Free State has five players "playing up" but really playing on grade, not age, where they should be playing. Sophomores(10th grade) better be playing at u-16 or above. What matters now is in 10 grade and a Sophomore, player and parents can receive direct chats etc..with college coaches instead of having to initiate the recruiting. And as a Junior they can officially verbally commit, until then,all is BS. Official letter signing is Feb 23rd of player's SENIOR year where it becomes binding.Called "college signing day" and is a big event.relax , got a few years to go.
11:35 some wisdom in your post....especially, the "relax, got a few years to go" part. I wasn't aware sophmores could receive direct chats with college coaches -- I thought that started beginning of jr year.
PS I was aware that any player can iniatiate a telephone conversation, email, visit campus, attend camps and talk to coaches there, etc. even as freshman. But that college coaches can't initiate anything until jr year.
Anyone have the national events schedules for both organizations finals? Predictions also? Do the region 1 teams have a chances to bring home the gold?
One team currently has the GOLD and will compete to repeat. Not only had an awesome year to obtain the National Championship last year, but played so well this year to per-qualify for Nationals. Any team still playing in July for National title is a pretty darn great team.Coyotes, Bucks, Empire
"pda striker does not play up. plays on grade.very different. this Fall sophomores better be playing u-16. College scouts/recruiters hate players playing down the grade."Boy throw out a statement on a Blog then it must be true.Lots of ecnl teams lose their top players after u17 because they already graduated and are off to play in college. These girls were playing on age not grade. ECNL policy is getting stricter about allowing girls to play up. They want to build the strongest teams possible. These seem girls have been playing varsity against seniors since their freshman year. years old After year 16 and 17 there is no difference between the girls also college coaches are increasing looking at players at u15 and u16. I
8:41 I like your seeding idea for R1 championships. But how would one go about seeding? I'm sure ECNL seeding system isn't perfect, but I believe it's reasonably objective based on pts / game to compare across conferences. Qtrfinal idea seems more simple, straightforward & practical and seems to address same issue.
just win. Rest does not matter. Only the teams that are concerned about losing or tying care about the system. Think they really are going to get any input from you/us on a blog. Wish all these playoffs/finals/regionals and final championship were all in June. To drag it out until mid July(ecnl) and end of July usysl is ridiculous.
I think quarterfinals asks too much of the players 6 games in 6 days or 7 days is nuts. I think region 1 should dump the opening ceremony (wasted day of standing around in my opinion) and give the teams a day off after the group stage or, if they insist on having an event for all the teams do it after the second day of games. Everyone will still be there to play their third game and it gives the players a day off to recover during the competition. Just doing things the same way because that's how they've always been done is stupid. How many people enjoy traveling all day to go to a stadium to stand around for 3 hours? With all the tournaments and leagues the teams play in, it wouldn't be that tough to seed the teams based on performance. You could just seed the top four finishers from the region 1 league that qualify for regionals and then draw the rest of the state cup winners into one of the four groups. This would make the premier league even more of a priority for teams. You could create a points system along the lines of gotsoccer and use that to seed the teams. There is just too much information out there for it to be done randomly. Use the gotsoccer rankings for all I care, there are ways for teams to inflate that ranking (like playing in every tournament), but it's not subjective or random. You have to win big events to have a high ranking. ECNL is way better in that respect. Granted, not all of the ECNL conferences are as strong as others, but its not a random draw. To me, the fields that the competition is held on is an even bigger issue. Next year, back in RI again and then off to WV for two years. No chance the fields in WV are any good. Just rotate the competition through the states that have quality facilities and split the revenue between all the state associations each year. USYS is the reason ECNL started in the first place. A bunch of non soccer idiots making decisions and this is what you get. Just my two cents.
@5:43 with school in session until June it is really the only time to hold these 4-6 day long competitions. Nothing you can do about that. Sorry, but it is just good business to take the feedback from your consumers and try to improve your product. If you don't continue to improve someone new will create a model to rival your own and exploit your weaknesses. ECNL is a great example. USYS was a monopoly, so they got fat and lazy. "Necessity is the mother of invention."
Yes , and now EDP because ecnl became too expensive. Players want to actually play in games and have a reasonable roster size.
Point is: if still playing, congratulations on a great post season. Others are playing sand soccer right about now. Although appealing, sand soccer is for losers.
The only looser out there is yourself. If a 15 year old girl can not take a couple of days away from serious soccer and go to the beach with her teammates / friends when could she do this. I do feel very sad for your daughter Mia knowing she has you for a parent.
You people are so lost. Sure coyotes;bucks;empire are good teams but there is also another great team playing in this region for a national title. Best of luck to Massapequa. They are going to Colorado to play for the NPL national title. Give it up to them. They beat the likes of Oakwood and NJSA who everyone says are top teams in this region.
Funny how nobody says that Massapequa is a top team in the region. Wonder why that is??
Hopefully Stallions striker will go to PDA which seems to be the natural progression. Would love to see her up front with PDA striker. Best move for her in my opinion
Penn Fusion losing their 3 best kids after nationals to fc bucks! Delco girls also looking to move and even more former blast girls want to go play with the others that went to fc bucks. Whats going on? Will bucks take more girls on? Dont they have like 50 already?
Troll go away - inaccurate statements. you know notta and just trying to cause trouble.
pda Arsenal drops to 46th in new rankings. Falling fast and not playing until Aug.
What are rankings? Your made up beliefs!Who cares? If you still care about rankings then your child is in trouble. These girls aren't u13 anymore. Focus should be college!
Only teams like Arsenal that are now way out of the top 10 or 20 say, "who cares" ?Arsenal is now a top 3 sand soccer team on the Shore.just saying
Just saying who cares? Your a loser and hopefully your child has a more logical parent who's main focus is the next level.
Rumor was Penn Fusion and Delco were merging into one club
Dude your so wrong. Delco merged with spirit united and became fc continental.
USYS NationalsPool A(MD) (NL-B1) MSC Coyotes Green (IL) (NL-R2) Eclipse Elite Black (TN) (RIII-C) Tennessee SC 16 (ID) (RIV-R) Boise Nationals Italia Pool B(CA-S) (NL-R1) Carlsbad Elite 97(FL) (NL-B2) Tampa Bay United 97 (NY-W) (RI-C) Empire Revolution (OH-N) (RII-C) Ambassadors FC
3 excellent teams, otherwise a joke, I list Eclipse,MSC and Carlsbad, the rest...YAWN. BTW isnt that troll who says..."just saying" a complete a**
Probably right --- heard from a friend down south that Ambassador team from region 2 is pretty good alsoNot sure how accurate that is but we will find out.
Sleep on Ambassadors and Tennessee at your own peril--both are back-to-back Regional champs who also had respectable showings in National League this year. Unlike most of the others, they have the advantage of having been to Nationals before and played well.Tampa is not a bad team and should be competitive in their pool; only question marks in my mind are Empire and Boise, who are both making their first appearances on the big stage. Will that be a factor for them?
So now 6 of the eight are extremely good. The only yawning is watching beach sand soccer. Good luck to the Bucks, they deserve to b on the platform. I do not think there is any sand soccer at u-16, so this will be pda Arsenal last year to play for the Sand Castle trophy. Fairly simple, if you are still playing in July, team is great. Weather National Championship USYSL in Kansas or ecnl Finals in Richmond.
Carlsbad vs eclipse or Tennessee.I reviewed the lineups and eclipse has its big guns to try and win this title. However Tennessee has probably the mist feared striker in country. DM! She plays 2 years up in the ecnl and use to play for Atlanta fire. Not sure why she is with Tennessee but this team will be hard to beat with her. Eclipse has many weapons so that game will probably be 3to2 when they play. I think the coyotes lose 2 games in group play and will mark the end of a great team/run.Carlsbads group will be a good challenge but they are better in mist areas then the teams in that bracket. Tb isn't great and neither is empire. Ambassadors won't score on them so when it comes down to it you can pencil in Carlsbad to the finals.Where is the ecnl draw anyone have it yet?
The national team player from U-17 Atlanta ECNL team played with Tennessee last summer as well, but she didn't play in the national league with them. She is a handful. Tennessee is very good and so is Eclipse. Carlsbad is the favorite in the other group, but I think Ambassadors or Tampa can give them a game. If Coyotes don't win, it isn't the end of the team. Don't be so dramatic.
Best striker at this age in country plays for real Colorado ecnl. She is on the u17 national team. Go look her up. MP!They are the favorite going for the ecnl national championships imo.
NJ Rush Soccer Club to hold open training/tryouts for rising U14, U15 & u16 girls teams out of the Princeton/Mercer County area. Tryouts to be held at Plummer Field at Princeton University on Tuesday, 7/16 and Thursday 7/18 from 7:00-8:30pm. Coaches to be Asst Princeton University Coaches Ron Celestin and Esmeralda Negron, and former US Women's National Team player Lisa Gmitter-Pittaro.For details: http://www.njrush.com/index.php/7-front-page-slides/85-nj-rush-princeton-tryouts-7-2013
Tryouts? It is Mid July?
Straight from a friend at ceremony. Ecnl national brackets.Bracket A.Fc bucksEclipseColorado stormFc DallasBracket B.Real coloradoDallas StingConcord EliteDallas Texans
I like Eclipse over bucks in a tight one and Dallas Sting over Colorado also real tough -- Bracket B is a killer Eclipse over Sting
Real Colorado over eclipsePretty even brackets it looks like.
Only 1 of the Coyotes selected for 98 pool play the past couple of days, what gives?
Really, who cares. Definitely a sad parent with to much time on their hands.
Bucks tie, Eclipse wins easily, Colorado crushes texans, Concorde ties..Looks like Colorado/Eclipse final, pretty interesting match up with each team having a USNT striker...
must be the fast coyote girl that plays defense and also gets moved up top.A track runner too. The other defenders are turle slow but physical. The amazing thing about coyotes is that they do not have a group of great players, just some very good players that have learned to play great together. Ever top level game coyotes are out talented, but manage to win just about all of them. Kudos to the coach and players.
1 game has been played still 2 more in each bracket.Eclipse still has 2 tough games ahead - fc Dallas n fc bucks.Real Colorado still has to play sting. Real Colorado has lost this year to fc Dallas.Tomorrows games should be interesting. One of 6 teams will win this. Real Colorado. Sting. Eclipse. Fc bucks. Fc Dallas.These 6 teams have been top 8 in ecnl all year
5:48 What is your definition of talent or a great player?
Massapequa lost to NJSA and Oakwood,Fusion did not play the last 8 games of the season in the New York league.My daughters team won by forfeit.
Ecnl championship bracket winners have been decided on both sides already. Crazy.Whoever predicted real Colorado vs eclipse nailed it.
those two are in the top 5 with Stallions ,Coyotes and ..... not the team staying home in NJ playing sand soccer. Arsenal not even in top 20. Slipped agian to 48th this week. At this rate , be out of top 50 by August.
Really-- still have a lot of anger issues with PDA ???
You really got to get past the PDA hating.
Where is the EDP NPL champion?2013 NPL Champions Cup - U-15 Girls Chicago Fire Juniors Mississippi (MS) FC Edmonds (WA) LA Premier FC (CA) Massapequa SC (NY) Southbay Force Black (CA) Weston FC (FL)
Did FC Bucks remember they had 3 games this week? 5-1 loss to Eclipse...ouch...Eclipse 4-0,4-1 and 5-1 impressive
Looks like Bucks started vacation a little early
Coyotes going blue. That is powder blue of Maryland Rush out of Bowie.Coach takes high paying position as Director of the Academy program at RUSH and will bring his teams with him. Egos ?
Does anyone think MSC or any of the teams at nationals can compete with eclipse next week? Same roster that won ECNL will be traveling out to Kansas
FC Bucks parent here. First off I like to Congratulate Eclipse team for winning the ECNL National TItle. I watched the game against Real Colorado and they were indeed the better team. Well deserved! As for the comment above can the Eclipse team be beat. The answer is yes however they are indeed the best team we have ever played and deepest. Their offense is the best in the country and their on their movement off the ball is the best I have seen at this age. With all that being said we lost to them 5-1 but the score didn't show the true game. Eclipse scored early and the bucks girls answered within 5mins. A late own goal right before half but eclipse up 2-1 @ half. The first 20 mins of 2nd half we had 4 gimmes that we didn't put in - 2 rolling across the goal line. 3mins later Eclipse #25 who might be the best outside halfback at this age beat our defense, goalie made good save but off her hands and into the goal. At 3-1 with 17mins to go our goals were defeated and deflated. Alot of subs were entered and the eclipse team were running circles around our team to score 2 more goals at the end. With that being the eclipse team controls the game unlike any - very confident with the ball from every line and always going one v one to draw a double team to then setup a scoring chance. You will need a solid defense, patience, great passing and need to put pressure on their back line to create scoring chances. Eclipse does not put a lot of pressure on the ball when they don't have it. They wait for the passing mistake by your team and then counter. Again they are the best team IMO in this country but even they lost/tie games this year and any team they play at the other national event has a shot. Best of luck to Empire and Montgomery - If you play eclipse be patient and make accurate passes or they will make you pay. CONTAIN CONTAIN CONTAIN. Don't over play the play and watch for the criss cross or over lap because when the defense doubles they have a weapon open that will just create a good scoring opportunity. It was a remarkable season for our team and the girls are looking forward to starting back up to fight for that chance again. Parents enjoy the games and moments as club is coming to and end soon.Again - Congrats to the National ECNL Champions ECLIPSE.
Great post. Good for you Bucks parent.
Yes Coyote coach offered big $$$ and incentives to move team, Green defering decision until after Kansas. White staying with current club and recruiting new coaches. Too bad his ego in the way and hope it doesn't affect play at Nationals, showing at RI was mediocre.
Lets not forget PDA tied Eclipse not losing a game in its National Playoff run. Missing key players in ECNL league games against Bucks resulted in 2 losses that gave them the unlucky drawer of playing Eclipse so early in playoffs. Rankings mean nothing. Ask the college coaches who watched the games. They know who the better teams are. It was evident by the amount of college coaches at that game. Do you think they look at GotSoccer points? Give it a break already with the PDA bashing. You are just afraid the best girls from your team will be heading down to Zaraphath which indeed will eventually happen so save your energy!
1. Eclipse1a. Pda2. Everyone else.Got it. Loser parents.
I was waiting for someone to come on here and say PDA tied Eclipse like its the equivalent of winning a championship or that it proves something. Your team didn't get it done. Pick up some more players and try it again next year. Sad post above. Michigan Hawks beat Eclipse this season, so they are the real champions right?
I was afraid some PDA supporter would bring up tying Eclipse. Too bad. PDA didn't get it done. They put themselves in a position that they needed to win that game by giving up a couple of late goals in their first two games. Eclipse knew they only needed to tie PDA to advance. I didn't see it, but I heard the Eclipse/PDA was a great game that could have gone either way. I would love to hear input from Eclipse on who they felt was their toughest opponent this year.
Guess what? Nobody cares, but I bet if Eclipse did answer that, they would name a team that beat them. Maybe next year, don't try to justify it, just let it go.
pda Arsenal still not playing this Summer because they failed to advance. FAILED. pda continues to learn a hard lesson, just can not win. pda is the tie team and then the lie team. Bucks destroyed pda twice, two in a row. Bucks were then dominated by Eclipse.5-1. pda finished fourth in the NE ecnl conference and barely made it to ecnl playoffs with 32 teams.Barely top 32 in ecnl. College coaches know, you think?
Can't let the PDA Hater get the last word for the summer..........Nobody from PDA has said we were the top team this year. What we keep saying is that we are one of the top teams, Unfortunately the ties we had this year and the two losses to Bucks caused the lower seed at Denver forcing the winner take all game with Eclipse which we didn't get the win. It was a great game that both teams fought until the bitter end. Nothing but respect for the way Eclipse play, like the Bucks parent said a few posts back the difference is so small that there are 10 teams that could claim to be the best.. The difference is scoring -- PDA didn't get it consistently all season and the results are what they are. Bucks had a great season too and I am looking forward to playing them next season and hopefully getting to play Eclipse / Real Colorado along with some of the other really good ECNL teams from Texas and California.It will be really tough to watch High School soccer until November starts the real season again.Have been enjoying "SAND SOCCER" as you call it, nice to get to be with my daughter in a none soccer setting for a few days.
pda Arsenal not in the discussion of top 10 or even top 20 anymore. But keep playing sand soccer, that will help. Have even heard some players may be considering leaving and playing for that team call Stallions.Sorry, but Arsenal has seen it's best days. Once you can not win the big games teams dismantle or go play sand soccer.
Not going to be the case but you keep dreaming and hating.Team will still be strong next year and only ones going to Stallions is the one that left after last season.You never know maybe some Stallions leave and come to PDA -- rumors are just that -- Just like you hate spew A bunch of crap!!!
Sad day for pda parent. Just can not let it go. I feel sorry for you.
You people from Jersey are brutal. Stallions this...PDA that...play 1 damn game to start the U-16 season so you can both shut the hell up!
Stallions would win hands down. Be just a warm-up now that Arsenal lost two starters. Arsenal would now be Stallions B team. no one left on squad that could start for Stallions, so that makes a B team.Stallions running and conditioning instead of playing in the sand. It is a very dedicated team of wonderful girls. Not sure why pda parent keeps coming on here after the verdict, i mean season ending early for them. They had better aspiration that fell way short.
PDA and STINGCRUSHStallionsECT.... are not the best teams in Jersey,I agree wait till U 16 and YOU will shut up
no starters from PDA went to Stallions -- Keep spreading your BS lies.One girl left pda last year after U14 and is going to Stallions for U16
U 17 national camp this week. 17 out of 26 girls from ECNL teams, enough said
Good thing it is u-17. If U-15, Most of team would be non-ecnl, except the forwards of FreeState which is now Maryland United(name change). Arsenal not even practicing? I hear. What's up with that?
Before the bashing starts, pda is a very good club. Just that pda Arsenal does not live up to the pda expectations or their own desired goals.
arsenal girl, the 1 that plays up is at the U17 national camp this week, is any freestate girls?
Who cares? Go look it up if you need the answer(fix) that bad. You parents better get a clue and fast. Rankings mean crap. If you are still focused on rankings then your daughter's days are numbered. I suggest you put more effort in making sure she is being seen by the colleges that she wants to play for and has here major. It was fun at u11 through u14 looking at rankings but now as a parent I realized that isnt important anymore and that the future of my daughter is first. Labeling our team number 5 or 10 each week, month or year wont help pay for her college. As long as she is on the right team she will be seen but that's only half the work. Please don't rank teams and start posting helpful informantion for families that have girls playing in college in 2to3 years.I suggest having your daughter pick 10to15colleges for each event/showcase and write a nice letter to the coach. Ps dont mess up the coaches name when you copy n paste or call the one team the lions when they are the bears :). Those lil things matter because it shows effort and focus or lack there of.Signed fc bucks parent.
Who is the star striker on Stallions that you all are talking about?
At this age and level of most teams mentioned here, there are lots of future great players that we will read about in college. Not just Stallions striker,although very good, but FreeState has a pair and Bucks certainly have their share of excellent players. The mids of Coyotes and Empire are awesome.Good Luck to Empire and MSC Coyotes tomorrow at Nationals. Their first games will be telling.
No PDA player ever has or ever will leave willingly to go to Stallions. A Stallions player left to go to PDA and when she was not rostered for top tournaments, she went back to Stallions. Fact.
Boise over Tennessee 3-1; andCoyotes tie Eclipse 1-1
Eclipse wins-takes lead in bracket pool. Not sure yet what Coyotes did.?
Coyotes beat Idaho 8-1Eclipse beats Tennessee 2-1
Eclipse win Youth Soccer National Championship and US Club National Championship. Very impressive and a feat that might never be matched at this level again due to the organizational powers that be. I am very impressed with the eclipse team winning the Youth soccer title as they literally left one National championship to go to the other. That is alot of games in a short period of time against the best in the country. Looking at each game they got stronger and stronger as the tournaments went on. Hats off and maybe someone from Region 1 can knock them off at u16.http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2013-National-Championships/Game/22974/EclipseEliteBlack97-98/AmbassadorsFC/
ECLIPSE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS EVERYWHERE!http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2013-National-Championships/Game/22974/EclipseEliteBlack97-98/AmbassadorsFC/
Are we sure they used the exact same roster?
Are we sure they used the same roster?
So what happened to MSC Coyotes Green???? Not even listed anymore in gotsocer or topdrawer. Heard they may go ASL at Maryland Rush out of Bowie,MD.
Yes. As mentioned in previous posts, Eclipse Black that qualified for Nationals via National League used same roster for Nationals. And essentially same roster as ECNL (all the top players on ECNL roster).http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2013-National-Championships/Team/16311/EclipseEliteBlack97-98ILNL-R2/Just checked MSC. In GS, I think they were moved to U16 mistakeningly early, but they are now listed again in U15.
Eclipses starting 11 had one change from the team that started in Richmond and that was a center back. The rest of the team was the same. One of our coaches went down to Richmond to watch them play and they had all of their big time players in Kansas. They are a great team and they had a great season.
There centerback is there best defender 6ft.
Can anyone explain why the tiebreaker rules in place for NCS differ from US Soccer or FIFA tiebreaker rules?
its to discourage blowouts which is dumb because if you get to the NCS you assume all teams are strong and blowouts should be recognized on their merit and not capped. MSC should have gone through on goal difference and would have in every football playing country in the world except this one.
THEIR center back might be THEIR best defender, but she is far from THEIR best player. I think people are surprised that they didn't roll through the tournament like they did through the ECNL final. Face it, the top of USYS is as good as the top of ECNL.
Re: tiebreaker rules, even in this country, I noticed that ECNL finals tiebreaker rules were based on goal differential and were not capped. Totally agree with 9:57.
Their center back is the best defender in country. Add that to the best striker n halfback in country and you get 2 national titles.Throw in bench as well. Btw eclipse had 1 close game in both events.Oh and I agree top teams are in both organizations. Who is disputing that?
As an outsider and having seen MSC and the eclipse both play, it is fairly obvious to me that MSC is better than the eclipse. I didn't see their game day 1, but apparently MSC completely dominated possession and outplayed eclipse. But it's soccer, so they tied 1-1. There isn't much doubt that they are the number 1 team in the country. And if you check the gotsoccer rankings they are now number 19 somehow. And Brentwood, who MSC beat 7-1 in region 1 premeir league is 10. Also, coyotes beat the NJ Stallions in regionals who is apparently number 1 in the country. Fair to say no one should pay attention to these bogus rankings.
Btw my daughter plays for u14 tophat and we watched every game but championship.
ECNL doesn't cap GD, so advantage to ECNL in that category. Very dumb rule.
I was at the game and MSC dominated the first 20-25 minutes of play. MSC went up 1-0 during that stretch and Eclipse tied it up with about 6 minutes to play in the first half after subbing off it's front runners. The goal was created off a scramble for a loose ball which MSC failed to clear twice. The rest of the game was fairly even with MSC creating a few more chances overall than Eclipse. MSC had two great chances in front of goal in the second half to win the game, they struck one over from about 8 yards and the other went right to the keeper from inside the 6. Their team is extremely organized and they did a great job as a group defensively. Their outside backs did an awesome job and completely shut down the dangerous wing players for Eclipse. Whoever said their backs are slow is wrong. Their two outside backs are quite fast. The center forward for Eclipse was the only real dangerous player for them in that game. In soccer the best team on any given day doesn't always win.
Having played MSC multiple times and Eclipse, as well, I can tell you categorically that Eclipse is the stronger team. BTW - ask MSC how many times they crossed midfield against the Stallions in that game...That's not to say MSC is not a great team - they are, but they would not win a 5 game series with Eclipse. No chance.
Enough to score.
This 5 game series blogger is obviously a stallions parent...don't be fooled folks. It's tough to miss nationals two years in a row because of MSC.
Stallions with an awful showing at surf cup. The got soccer number 1 team did not score a goal, didn't win a game and lost 2 games. Anyone still think got soccer is important? BTW, real SoCal wins the surf cup after getting crushed by both PDA and eclipse in the ECNL championship series. Great performance by the stallions in front of the most college coaches they have seen all year.
It's soccer, not the MLB/NBA/NHL playoffs. You don't play a series in soccer. One game! On any given day any elite team can beat or tie another elite team. There are probably 25-30 teams across the country in that category. Some of them reside in region 1. No list needed they are obvious.
Agreed. And as has been said before, the way one elite team distinguishes itself from others is not whether it wins every game, because as you say "on any given day", but its overall track record, winning %, winning when it counts, goal ratio (an indication of relative strength assuming similar competition to the other elite teams).
Some of the best teams in country at that tournament.Every game within a goal but 2 which were 2 goal games.It does show how deep ecnl is.All in all not the best showing for stallions but losing 2 1 zip games mean they were excellent games that could of went either way.Little worried about not scoring a goal though.
WAGShttp://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=29486&Group=Girls_16Bracket C looks tough.
Very quiet.Most top teams sitting out Fall season but will probably start playing tournaments in Oct. Fall Showcases etc. in Oct., Nov. Ecnl season does not start until later. Not much going on for top teams.
Not much going on, other than hoping that not too much regression happens during HS season...for those playing HS in fall!
Top 10 in this region anyone and why!?!u16
Doesn't matter anymore. All about college exposure. Coyotes have all starters committed to D1- WOW ! Maryland United-aka FreeState has 3 players going Ivy League and two to Naval Academy(yes,it is a big deal) Rankings by Daddys here?? Get your kid a FULL scholarship! and do not worry about rankings. Work on that Full ride and not the partials year to year.All players of very good teams can play at next level, just depends on where and how much $ they get. Rankings only matter at the younger ages, so grow up a little.
That's a load of crap. No way Coyotes have 11 players committed. I can believe the juniors are committed, but there's no way all the sophomores are verbally committed 1 month into their sophomore year. I've had communication with 9 top D1 schools and only 1 of them had more than 3 2015's verbally committed let alone 2016's.
Certainly sounds real for a top team like Coyotes and maybe others. D1s are going after players earlier and earlier. I think some of those players go to Good Counsel HS where players just commited and signed with Duke, Harvard, and Michigan. Advice is, if your coach is not promoting player early, choices will disappear and fill up at the top D1s.
Probably troll. Did anybody else see this? http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/usc-head-coach-ali-khosroshahin-too-young-to-recruit_vid3699
WAGS Showcase results: http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=29486&Gender=Girls&Age=16PWSI, Massapequa, Coyotes and Bucks come in first in the four brackets in the top flight. Bucks only team to win all their matches, Massapequa and Coyotes both with no goals against.Tamp Bay with a surprisingly lackluster showing.Anyone here see any of the matches? Any thoughts about any of the sides at this (early) stage of the season?
WOW - NEWWS BRACKETShttp://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=30199&Group=Girls_163 best teams going are in the same bracket.2 or 3 of those other teams in the top flight b bracket shouldn't even be in the top flight.Brentwood should walk to the finals. Stallions vs pda - Can the stallioins break slump and score a goal? could they get shut out again?
Brentwood is not an elite team, they will lose to Scorpions. Scorpions vs PDA/Stallions winner in the final.
There are only two elite teams in the flight, both in Bracket A. while of course anything can happen in sing-game scenarios, the winner of the PDA-Stallions match should cruise to the championship over whoever comes out of Bracket B.@12:55- I agree Brentwood is not a truly elite team, but what has Scorpions done to make you so sure they will win that match and the bracket?
Dont sell short East Meadow. They are Elite ask PDA. 3 Great teams.Seems pretty weak this time around. Casl has alot of great teams but spread out all over brackets.
16 ECNL girls were on u 17 national team last night. All of the strikers are u 16 playing up, 2 should be u 15.....interesting
What, in particular, did you find interesting? Was it only interesting to you or should a wider audience also find it interesting? If the latter, why?How about this: One of Saturday's starters plays for an ECNL club but does not play ECNL because she considers it a waste of time. Instead, she plays for the club's boys' DA team...interesting.See what I mead? Why should anyone find that fact in itself particularly interesting?Is there a larger point you wish to make, or are you merely stating that you observed something?
Oops, typo. Previous post should read, "See what I mean?" at the start of paragraph 3.
3:35 Why don't you tell us about the game instead of baiting the blog? I'd be interested in hearing how our Women's U-17 National team did as I am sure many others would as well. Obviously they scored a lot of goals, but, as we all know, that doesn't mean they played a good game. I was bummed I missed it- does anyone know if Fox will air replays? Thx.
High School soccer in some areas are good.Eastern Lenope,Wiliamstown,and today Washington Township.Peoplple always bad mouth HS Soccer,but these teams play soccer.Egg Harbor Township loaded with athletes but no training and no leadership Coach worries about seniors crying for goals, .Ect..Gllee,sings anthem......spend more time learning how to coach you're team with tactic tics ,step down,let Strause take over,GLEEBOY !!!
You do realize that there is another forum for HS soccer discussions, don't you? Even over there, however, coherent English sentences tend to be helpful in getting your point across.
I'm curious what roster/team Eclipse will play with in National League. Last year it was their ECNL team dual rostering their top players or almost the entire team. I noticed in Midwest Regional League, the Eclipse team is near bottom -- so clearly not playing their top players in that. I think Herndon Freedom dissolved shortly after National League last year -- in which they didn't win a game, scored 5 allowed 23 -- probably because they had already started to lose key players prior.
Good question, as Eclipse is one of only two teams that hasn't entered their NL roster yet. I would expect they will continue to dual roster their top players and, frankly, I'm fine with that. Whoever plays them should want to beat the best team Eclipse can field.In both MRL and ECNL play, they seem to have had several key players missing on a regular basis, particularly their National team forward. For the ECNL matches at least, you can correlate their wins to the matches she played in pretty closely.
Re: Eclipse, I'm also hopeful they field their top ECNL players in Nat'l League -- personally I think the reason they do is because of the competitive quality of the league (and thus development benefits and exposure for players) and that they will need to in order to compete.
Region1What teams to watch that maybe could step up to the top?What teams are at top? Will they struggle?What matchups will this year bring that will be fun for the teams?
If you don't know who the top teams in Region 1 are by now, you really haven't been paying attention.And why would you expect those teams, who have demonstrated sustained excellence, suddenly to struggle?Your post sounds like an attempt to stir the pot without adding value.
I guess you missed the 1st question. answer that one then continue..........Value isn't just your own opinion. Its what whoever reading it makes of it.
"Its what whoever reading it makes of it."Umm...that would be what opinion is. Which pretty much makes the previous poster's comment valid according to your criteria.If you don't agree with the opinion, that's one thing. But responding with petty insults doesn't really advance the conversation, now does it?
People are so rude on this stupid blog. The person sparked a conversation and the response as usual is something nasty. Can't wait until this age group is basically done next year so you crazy parents can leave us kids to enjoy college.
Because most kids begin enjoying college during their junior year of high school.Sounds like a plan.
Another retarded parent who can't add junior year plus next year.This blog is worthless with out pics.
Most current U16s are 2016s, thus next year they would be HS juniors.Even the 2015s will not be in college next year, and hence will not yet be "enjoying college".To be clear: sophomore + next year = junior; junior + next year = senior. Doesn't sound "retarded" at all.Darn facts do have a habit of getting in the way, don't they?
Problem is I am a junior born Sept 18 1997 and next year will be my last year before I head off to college and play.So I am just as correct as your statement.
Whats up with the Casl brackets. Top flight looks weaker then the next 3 flights.Stallions get to play thy worse ecnl team in orlando city. I think they finished 2nd from last. They also get to play an average at best casl ecnl team.Neither of those should be in top flight. Stallions should ask to play in different flight or play FCV while they are down there.
Orlando City in particular does seem like a big outlier. There must be a method to their madness.
Who is going to play at PWSI and Jeff Cup this year?
For PWSI, at least you have an idea of the teams based on their website:National Semi Finalist-1Regional Finalist-2Regional Semi Finalist-1State Cup Champions-4State Cup Finalist-1State Cup Semi Finalist-2But I'd bet PWSI is very similar to last year with a few changes.
Coyotes passing on both. Be in Texas,NC and CALIFORNIA !
Fcbucks was coming to both just to play coyotes and hash out who the best team in this region is.That's what I heard:-)
Troll.Anyone who know the age group knows thatNational Semi Finalist-1Regional Finalist-2Regional Semi Finalist-1State Cup Champions-4points to Coyotes (National Semi Finalist, Regional Semi Finalist, State Cup Champion) attending. PWSI accounts for one of the Regional Finalists and one of the other State Cup Champions. That leaves one Regional Finalist and two State Cup Champions (hint: PWSI U15 won both last year).Pretty sure Carlsbad is not leaving sunny SoCal for a frigid Virginia February.
http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=32572&Gender=Girls&Age=16Bethesda tourney.Is PAE serious? State cup champ gets hammered 6zip. Top 5 in country FC Philadelphia gets beat 4to1.What gives?
Sounds like the teams were not prepared to play? Bad coaching maybe?
Both teams played at wags. Who is fc maryland? Is that the coyotes? There are only 2 teams in pae and both are ecnl!
Agreed...FC Bucks and FC Continental
Fc Bucks and Penn Fusion I meant.Fc Continental was bottom 10 in ecnl
Fc maryland is what used to be called freestate.
Why is fc bucks in the 3rd bracket at Bethesda if they are one of your top teams in pa?All legacy n fc phila bounced back with convincing victories yesterday! These two teams are two of the better teams in regionn 1 and can beat anyone on any given day!.
When playing Friday afternoon games at tournamnets, anything can happen depending whom can travel. Some people actually work, and school always comes first.Local teams get the edge here. One of the disadvantages of Showcase style(one game per day.
That was not the FC Bucks ECNL team in the third bracket.
FC Delco not exactly a good start to the season at Bethesda and they had a handful of d-1 coaches watching on Sunday.
They were bottom 10 in ecnl. They lost key players and there best player was playing in high school state finals.
Pda are you going to Jeff Cup? What other events will you be at? We like to play your team and hope to see the teams cross paths.
I was jsut reading and noticed NJ Stallions didn't make the National League. What happened?CASL has two nice brackets filled with great teams. NJ Stallions are playing a very bad Orlando team when they could be playing real comp!.Under 16 Girls National League Blue Under 16 Girls National League Red
Not from Stallions, but probably because they weren't eligible per Nat'l League rules. Teams eligible for selection:(1) any team that played R1 Premier League(2) any team that played the National League during previous year(3) any team that reached semifinals R1 tournament.Assuming they wanted to play NL, clearly they got screwed for not playing R1 Premier league last year...as they no doubt would have been selected otherwise. Also, I wonder when those criteria were created....i.e. how new are they?
Also got screwed playing the best and only team in this region in bracket okay at regionals or they would of been a region semi finalist.Maybe this year they will get lucky just dont look to far past both these next up coming weekends.
The National League qualification rules are not new. Stallions chose not to play in R1PL last year, and so a third place finish in their pool at R1 tournament ended their only shot to qualify for NL 2013-2014 season.
this season will be though for her :)
Got Soccer Rankings are so ridiculous.How can a team after today have 20 L's 10 ties in 60 games after today and not only be considered the best team in the state but 5th ranked in the country?They weren't even the state champions or league champion.http://events.gotsport.com/events/schedule.aspx?eventid=34088&FieldID=0&applicationID=2053416&action=GoThere has to be a better calculation/formula then whats going on. Its almost funny.
News flash, all rankings are stupid! They were never important! I can't believe people still talk about TD or GS rankings. Everyone knows who the top 20 teams in the country are.
Really? Who are the top 20.My team hasn't played or seen every team so what are you basing it off of? td or gs?
GS rankings are not at all ridiculous. They paint a completely accurate picture of exactly what they claim to show: namely, which teams have accumulated the most GotSoccer points.That's it. That is all that they do, but they do it very well. There is no inherent judgement made about "best" teams by the accumulation of points. The only thing that the GS rankings can tell you about any two teams relative to each other is that Team A has (or has not) accumulated more points than Team B.There are too many events that GS does not rank, and too many teams who just chase points for the rankings to mean any more than that.Now it is true that the GS rankings can be used as a starting point for identifying the best teams, using the premise that the best teams play in more highly ranked events/flights and perform better in them. But it's only a starting point, because of the ability for teams to accumulate points simply by playing more frequently than others.If you have been around the age group very long, though, it's not that hard to identify the best 15-20 or so teams nationally or regionally. Yes, there will be some arguments, but the top group at each level have separated themselves from the pack through consistent success over the past several seasons.For example, discussion of the best in Region 1 starts with Bucks, PDA, Coyotes, and Stallions, with a half-dozen or so others worthy of consideration. Nationally, in addition to the R1 teams, Eclipse's double titles put them near the top of the list, along with one or more of the ECNL teams in Dallas, Carlsbad, Albion, SD Surf, Amabassadors, Tennessee SC, Legends, and maybe eight to ten others. That's at least a reasonable starting point if you haven't seen all of the teams (and very few people have).
Very well put. As an FC Philly parent, we all know we are not the 5th best team in the country, nor do we boast to be. We have a very talented group of girls that can play with most in the country, but we clearly are not at the level of the likes of the Coyotes and FC Virgina whom we recently lost 2-0 to both. We have a PAGS league game in 2 weeks vs FC Bucks ECNL which will be a great measuring stick of where we are to date.
Didn't your team just lose to fc bucks recently 5to2?Just because your on the same pitch doesn't mean you can play with these teams.
I just want to bring up something that nobody seemed to mention a few weeks ago. I find it funny, that every time a national team roster is announced somebody comes on here and says look at how many ECNL players are on the team. ECNL is so Great or something along those lines. Unfortunately, the U-17 team has failed to qualify for the world cup for two consecutive cycles. Clearly, ECNL has not elevated the level of the US national team, like everyone has claimed it would or has. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
Agreed. But it's not just the U17s or about ECNL. It's not obvious to me that the WNT has evolved their playing style all that much....despite the stated desire to do so over recent years. The US teams are too predictable -- in the old days it didn't matter, we were superior athletically. That's not enough anymore. It comes down to coaching, player selection, and assembling teams of players capable and willing to play the style you demand or that is increasingly demanded to be successful at international level. What player traits are valued most? How about soccer IQ or tactical knowledge, mental speed, decision making, technical skills, creativity? Those players are out there and are still sufficiently athletic to compete internationally. Also, successful teams need versatile players that complement one another -- the best 11 is not the same as the 11 best, however you define "best". Lastly, if national team scouts are somehow focusing more on ECNL, they are missing a lot of great players....especially given the still early stage of ECNL development and the huge size of the non-ECNL player pool relative to ECNL. Watch UVA women play -- that's more along the line the national teams need to play. Probably why the U20s won the World Cup.
Are you kidding me? If you watched the matches, the U17 WNT were heads above any other team. They really were out coached against Mexico and unlucky. Mexico scored early, and poured everyone in the box. The US youth national teams look far better than other teams and they continue to feed into the WNT.
I watched. Far better than other teams? What other teams? Are you referring to T&T, Guatemala, and Jamaica? Certainly not heads above Mexico -- as the fact is that they got beat by Mexico. Oh -- they clearly "dominated", just not on the scoreboard where it counts. And not far better than Canada.The standard should be Japan, Germany -- and they didn't fare so well against them either earlier in the year.
What other teams are you referring to? T&T, Guatemala, and Jamaica? Don't think that should be the standard.
On the score board it was 1 up against Mexico. Canada couldn't penetrate their defense n controlled the game. Not sure what you watched.
So your conclusion is: No need to improve or change anything. The US youth national teams continue to be far better than other teams and continues to feed into the WNT, which itself is far better than other teams. In the latest example, the U17s were just very unlucky for the 2nd time in a row in WC qualifying....in a very weak region.
Google the highlights against Mexico. Its on YouTube the game should of easily been 4 to 1.Anyone that played soccer knows that any given day the best team can lose. On that day the women lost on pks.Those 3 forwards are 3 of the best at their age and ill argue with you to name 3 better. All 3 strikers were at the ecnl nationals with 2 of them playing against each other in finals. Although you might have a grudge against ecnl you can't knock those girls. They just didn't finish that day. Please look at your own team and how many times you left the pitch with a tie or 1zip loss after dominating and saying we didn't finish.There is a ton of talented girls and the future of the sport will be fine in the women's side.
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