What's to be sold on? Last time I checked they've won a lot of games since U-9. Coach does have a defensive mind set so what? It works for them and for the team talent they have. Play to your strengths right?
An alternate approach is to develop the players you have so that they become more technically skilled, more tactically sound, more fit, etc. -- you know, better soccer players. I realize that losing a keeper can be a difficult blow, especially when she is as good as the Super Nova keeper is. But honestly, an elite team ought to be able to withstand the loss of one forward for a period of time without disastrous results--if, of course, the entire attack is not built around a single player. Winning a lot of games can't be the ultimate yardstick, because win- loss records can be deceiving. An elite team must be constantly and actively making all if its players better, more complete players. "Play to your strengths" too often becomes "Expose your weaknesses" otherwise. And that is pretty much what has happened here since losing those two kids. If you build all your hopes around one fast player and she goes down, you are SOL. If, on the other hand, you have multiple players to fill that role, or you emphasize possession, passing, and individual skill for all players, you will better withstand the loss of any one player.
Nova's problem has always been its depth. The team goes further than just those 2 players. There are 4 or 5 quality players they have on team. The rest are average at best. It's always been that way. Every time my daughters team play them, it's shut down 00 and try to get 1 goal past their defense, which is definitely their strength. It is sad that they have only 1 player that can score.
I would humbly suggest that Nova's strength has been not so much their defense as their keeper. At full strength, they seem to post a lot of shutouts and one-goal games. In the last three matches, with the same back line but a different keeper, they have surrendered nine goals. Two of those opponents have not generally considered better teams than Nova.I have seen them with and without their missing goalkeeper. She deserves far more credit that the defenders playing in front of her.
I bet PDA, Stallions, Montgomery and Herndon are relieved--looks like the forum has found a new whipping boy!Doesn't take much for folks here to pile on, does it? :)
Is Fusion in a Rush for ECNL ?
11:05 OK thanks Grandma
Who is fusion?
PDA struggling in the ECNLTied Stars 2up and beat Scorpions 1zip in which they were lucky to get a tie.http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/standings/49564626/49564720.html
Penn Fusion on the rise
Anybody know a parent who kisses every bodies a$$,especially the coach,talks to every body to know whats going on,talks behind every ones back ,and his kid aint that good,now rides bench ? Now the phone calls happen,every team has one !! I now don't trust back stabbers
Which team? Elaborate please.
Whereas previously you did trust back stabbers?I guess parents like that are tolerable as long as its not your back into which the knife is inserted? That's why they flourish; nobody cares to stop them until becoming a victim.
Bach stabbers usually stick together until they are a part and start back stabbing each other. Tough being a PDA parent. When things start going bad, look out.
9:04 why the pda bashing? Like poster said a while back, the top 3 will occasionally have a let down.pda still top 3, but we will keep an eye on them.Penn is playing well it seems, keep an eye on them to rise possibly. PWSI will need a win in Del.semis to be taken seriously.But, it appears they got there.
Must be tryout time. The haters always come out every year before tryouts and the big tournaments. They can't help themselves. Don't know what they hope to gain other than some sort of misguided sense of self-satisfaction that they can get a rise out of others by posting ridiculous statements anonymously. Really pretty sad, if you think about it.
4/15/13 4:01. Such insecurities you must have.
PA East NCS State Cup will play out like this...PA Classics 2-1 over CRUSA Red.Haverford Premier 97 4-1 over LDC City Islanders.FC Rev 2-0 over HMMS.Penn Legacy Black 3-0 over Rage SC.
Bold predictions to make anonymously.
Anonymous person criticizing a person who makes anonymous post. Hmmmm!?
who cares - all of these other leagues make the state cup watered down. Cant even imagine what regionals will look like. Hopefully there is 1 legit team left standing that is a top level team in each set. No upsets so regionals can be fun.
PDA vs Penn Fusion tomorrow at 2pm. Tune in!!!!I guess we will see what Penn Fusion is about.
Anonymous person criticizing anonymous person criticizing person who makes anonymous post. Sincerely, Anonymous
Penn Fusion stinks! PDA should beat them by 3 easily.
PDA Hasn't scored 3 goals on anyone in a year. Penn Fusion has the best striker in the state and probably the Region (even better then PDA lil striker)
Someone was drinking the PA Classics Kool Aid. Don't see them beating Bucks Red. Everything else probably spot on. Someone else being stupid with regard to PF. Will be a good test today. They are playing well and I would expect a good showing.
Penn 2-1 over pda
Final Posted 1-1 Tie.Its time the pa teams get credit if PDA is top 3 in region 1 then penn fusion and fc bucks are right there with them. Neither penn fusion or fc bucks lost to them last year or this year.Also look at free state they are running through this region.
calm down PF mom - nice tie but pda controlled alot of the game today. we will see you in 2 weeks @ pda again.
To the extent that Free State is running through anything, it is a mediocre division that has--at most--three legitimate teams. The Mid-Atlantic division is laden with weak teams, and the bottom four or five would struggle to be competitive in the Colonial League.I had the "privilege" (misfortune?) of watching two of these bottom teams face each other recently, and it was not pretty. Free State may be winning, but they have little notable competition. We now return to our regularly scheduled PDA bashing.
5:38 lolFusion missed two great chances that should have won the game. Surprised how rattled pda was.played scared.
PDA controlled the game. Sure you had 2 nice chances but in 80mins you should be able to create that.Like I stated we will see again in 2 weeks when you come to PDA.No home cooking like today
Really? Did PDA just call someone out for "home cooking".
AD is back - oh no?!?
haha PDA = HOME COKINGwhen was the last time any one of their top teams lost at home? Its almost impossible to beat pda's best teams at home since your playing against the refs and pda.Home Coking - this will be my new joke of the day.
Leave the guy alone for crying out loud.
PDA and the Stallions both facing some critical injuries, no excuses for either but the injuries are adding up for both teams, will make a long run in the playoffs doubtful for either team....
Injuries part of the game. Great teams have very good players to step in without missing a beat. Can not just have 11-12 players, need a whole team to make a run. Outstanding/Experienced coaches know that, and will carry 18-20 players. Having only one or two injuries this late in season is expected. Watch teams stack rosters after season for runs in Regional's. As it should because it can .
Anyone chime in on the fc bucks vs cfc game? CFC is pretty good and to lose at home by 3 to bucks is alot. Is bucks really that good now or did cfc have an off game?northeast teams seem stronger then midatlantic. every game seems to be hard fought with 1 bad team in soccer plus
State Cup !!!!!PDA Spurs got rocked by Princeton Winslow got rocked by HolmdelNJ Dynamo beats Watchung!!!BTW PDA has plenty of girls they can miss half the team and still wouldn't lose a beat. No exuses.You aren't playing like top 3 anymore. You dropped to 5-10 and 3 in New Jersey
both bucks and cfc are very good.sometimes the ball bounces into the net more for another team. now go find something else to do.
Watchung and Winslow seemed to be favorites to get to the quarterfinals. Princeton beating PDA Spurns isn't a surprise.
Pda also had some ecnl players on the state cup roster for SPURS. Did not matter. Prinecton is real deal. STALLIONS AND PRINCETON 1, 2
We play Penn Fusion all the time. Some idiot on here claims that they have a forward who is best in state, who? Is she a National Team Player? I would hope so if you are giving her that much props. It must be her mom or dad cause i never seen a great forward on that team. Tough defense, but not great forwards. And who are you comparing her to, what are you talking about, pda lil striker?
love to hear the comment on this one! All you people who bash other teams are so ridiculous. PDA seems to be the biggest one always being "picked on". I guess when they stop talking, then you know you stink!!!
Ask Pda who she is. She scored against them this weekend. You are obviously not from pa or you would know she has been a national team forward. If you don't know then don't act like you do by saying who is she. Penn Fusion is the best team in pa hands down. Now AD go crawl under a whole you maggot.
Still talking -- team not playing at it's best at the moment but will be fine. This forum would be boring if they didn't have PDA to bash. Striker from Penn Fusion was good she had a few decent chances in the game scoring on one, is she the best in the region I don't know -- it doesn't matter. Injuries do matter to all teams as Crush parents can tell you take away top of roster player and put in subs and level of play does drop a little. It happens and yes all teams have to deal with it including PDA. As for above comment that PDA ECNL roster girls played with PDA South team in state cup that is pure garbage. Princeton is playing well and beat South.
Don't stir the pot. Penn fusion doesn't have a solid defense and they are built around that striker. Its been like that for years.
So, beating PDA Spurs automatically elevates Princeton above PDA Arsenal as well? Not sure about that logic.If I recall correctly, it has been a while since Stallions (in any of their incarnations) has beaten PDA Arsenal, but they, too, are automatically elevated above the ECNL side?I'm not sure we really have enough contextual information to judge accurately--relative to each other, that is--between the best 3-5 USYS sides on the one hand, and the best 3-5 ECNL sides on the other, in the Region.Princeton may indeed be among the top 10 or so teams in Region 1, but it may also be true that PDA Spurs are not. I haven't seen either side in action since last May at Delco, although I do not doubt that adding former YMS players has helped Princeton significantly.I think the stronger argument might be that PDA Spurs are perhaps not as strong as they are believed to be by some. I would suggest, however, that elevating Princeton above PDA Arsenal at this point might be a bit presumptive, as well as premature. If Princeton can get through Stallions to the R1 championships, they will strengthen their case.
Then who are your top 5 from both organizations?
ECNL no specific order: Stars, Bucks, Fusion, PDA and either Freestate or FCV neither of these teams has any real significant wins and they tied each other. They also didn't fare to well outside of conference play. The PDA event and the ECNL playoffs will determine how legit those teams are.Non-ECNL: I think the top two have earned it and I'm not going to try to separate those two. Stallions/MSC and then pick any number of teams; NJSA, Oakwood, Princeton, PWSI, etc, etc; to fill out the rest. You can make a case for any number of teams.
Since I wrote the 11:50 post and therefore the 12:00 was directed at me, I guess I should answer.I think @12:24 pretty much nailed it. ECNL seems to have a top 4, with 2-4 teams in the mix for #5 (I would include East Meadow and CFC in the discussion with Freestate and FCV).Non-ECNL does seem to be pretty much a top 2 + plus the flavors of the week. Too little separation to distinguish any three of the next group of teams definitively. Beadling might also be in that mix; perhaps a couple of the myriad NY teams as well. A fair number of sides for which to make an argument.Since you asked, what are your thoughts?
Have to agree with previous two posters regarding question marks surrounding Free State and FC Virginia. Their records are a bit misleading based on the strength of their conference. I'm not sold on either Carmel United or Internationals, and the bottom five teams are just flat out awful.Top ECNL teams in region definitely all from Northeast conference.
here are my top 5 each.No OrderPDA/Bucks/Stars/CFC/FC VirginaCFC is alot stronger then their ECNL record shows. I do expect them to move within top4-5 by the end of the season.Stallions/Coyotes/NJSA Fusion/Oakwood/PWSII would love for a get together somewhere and play out some type of Region 1 championship league.
And that is one of the true tragedies of the burgeoning proliferation of leagues. The best teams are spread among ECNL, ASL, Region 1 Premier and Colonial Leagues, and too many other organizations. I, too, would love to see a true championship tournament of all the best teams in the Region, regardless of league or club affiliation. But I fear that too many individuals have too much invested in their particular fiefdoms to allow that to happen.But it would be interesting to take, say, the top 6 ECNL teams (top 4 NE/top 2 MA), top 4 PL, and 6 wild card entries and play it out over a couple of weekends (mix of teams is admittedly arbitrary and negotiable :)). How awesome would it be for teams to get six great games? How much fun would that be to watch?Oh we, it's nice to dream!
I share your dream. Perhaps it would be structured similarly to the Europa Cup or Champion's League with a home and away game. Imagine that. Our kids getting to play these top competitors twice. With relagation rules so that teams can earn into the next contest or be relegated out if they are at the bottom of the table.
you people are sick. You are living thru your kids! Dreaming to have certain matches! Do you hear yourself, no you just type hiding behind a screen name sounding like a fool. I bet your kids could care less if they played outside their conference, it's you crazy parents. Who cares who is top 5 also, do your kids, no, its their crazy parents who probably have never played a high school or college sport for that matter. Its the same crazy parents who push their kids into playing 50 games a year and training 5-6 days a week. Seriously, what are you all going to do when it's all over? Finally then find a life of your own?
That wasn't how I heard this at all. Not living through there children. Just wanting them to have excellent competition so they can enjoy learning the game by playing against the top competition in the Region. Maybe less coffee??
To say Penn Fusion is the best in Pa, Id have to agree. Here is my top 7 in Pa as we speak.1.Penn Fusion2.FC Bucks3.Haverford Premier 974.Super Nova5.Penn Legacy Black6.FC Revolution7.FC Delco
It would be nice, but the shame of the current situation is that all quality teams feel frustrated much to often with the quality of their league competition. Once leagues started forming based on exclusivity and affiliation it got even worse. Not blaming any one league because everyday there seems to be a new one. Sports work best when it is based on a meritocracy. Take the top 16 teams in the region make two groups of 8, play one game a weekend for 7 weeks on the best fields and then seed all of them and cross over to play a two weekend playoff tournament that you rotate around the region. That would be your spring league (about 11 games). Add in a high level tournament or two and a true national championship series and you have a great environment for all the players to develop in. So easy, but we are all too stupid apparently. Once again not blaming anything or anyone, just an advocate for youth soccer. I hate all the different leagues/organizations; they are all flawed in their own special way.
1. FC Bucks2. Penn Fusion3. Penn Legacy4. Supernova5. FC Bucks RED6. Haverford7. FC Delco8. FC Revolution
3:37 is so on the mark! What are we thinking, demanding that our girls play an average of less than one game per week? And training on a regular basis, travelling for the sake of competition against "good" teams--sheer craziness I tell you!What do all these multiple letter leagues offer that your local rec league--with a much more reasonable one hour-and-a-half practice on a grassless, rocky field, six a games a year, clueless dad coaches, and an everybody-plays-equally policy--doesn't offer? I mean, really, shouldn't these girls all be taking ballet and learning how to set a proper tea service anyway?Or, then again, maybe--just maybe--the girls play so much soccer because they love the game, the competition, and the camaraderie. Nah, that clearly couldn't be the case, could it?
1. FC Bucks1a. Penn Fusion3. Whoever wins the state cup4. Everybody else
wait, i have to chime in one this one just cause i know who the parent is. What National Team has this Penn Fusion Forward played for? ODP dont count. I dont see her rosterd with the U15 National Team. If she was that good, she would be recognized and on it. She is good, but not great so shut up mom.
why doesnt ODP count? my daughter made the odp regional team and that mattered to her?
Regional team does not equal National team.Pretty obvious on the face of it, one would think.
That's pretty much it. My daughter made the Regional pool and attended the ODP National camp, but that doesn't mean I can claim she was called to National camp; she wasn't.It's okay for your kid to be as good as she is, without needing to embellish. There are too many people here who will call BS on you if you try, anyway.
Thats true poster above. Who ever made the comment above comparing the penn fusion girl to the pda lil striker obviously has not done their homework. I know the parents of the pda stiker and she had=s been called up to camp last May and she is going again this May. She is a great player and you should not of included her in your post idiot. Why would you do such a stupid thing.
Princeton beat PDA ? Princeton added players from YMS?Princeton now a top 2 until someone beats them.
exdate set date rape do not send them to that coach
Princeton beat PDA South. They picked up players from YMA when that team folded after last spring. Nothing new there. Sorry, but you don't just get to the top by declaring it to be so. Until someone below them proves otherwise, Stallions and PDA Arsenal remain at the top of the heap in NJ. Sorry, but there is just no way that a Colonial League team ranks higher than those two at this time. You want wider recognition and respect for Princeton? Beat the Stallions and win NJ state cup.
extasy stay away dirty dog
Umm, wanna try posting in English?
Princeton got crushed by watchung. Enough said
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Stallions is playing up, so a team has no shot of saying otherwise.(not that I think anyone wold have topped them had they played U15 at Cup)
NJ Stallions arent playing up in the Cup that matters; that takes you to regionals and possibly nationals.https://events.gotsport.com/(S(osrinnrestsegi45tgdw2j45))/events/resultsgrid.aspx?EventID=30710&GroupID=2826462 different cups here. 2 different organizationshttp://www.newjerseycup.net/
Why isn't Fusion in this Cup ? English ?
NJSA Fusion can't due to NPL league commitments.
what exactly are the Fusion's commitments with the NPL?
As a US Club Soccer League, commitment to the NPL League, just like the ECNL, makes it impossible to play in the USYS State Cup. This is why you won't see PDA Arsenal, NJSA Fusion, Matchfit Riptide, Parsippany or NJ Crush in the USYS State Cup.The NPL League does allow participation in the US Club State Cup.
Their commitment may make it not feasible in terms of schedule conflicts, but membership in a US Club affiliated league does not ipso facto forbid participation in USYS NCS events. For exhibits A and B in support of this claim, see the U15 Eclipse Elite (IL) and U16 McLean (VA) teams.
Add to that:CFC Wolves last year, Match Fit Colchesters, Match Fit Beat this year.
Cholchesters and Beat are not NPL teams.
FC Bucks current U16 ECNL team won states and regionals. They had alot of traveling for both national events.
Is NJ the only State that requires participation in a qualifying league? Hard to believe any of these teams could compete in two leagues with that much travel and then still find time to get in all the cup matches.
And they were the only Region 1 girls team at USYS Nationals not to advance to the championship game, going 0-3 in South Carolina.
I think you will find Match Fit as a club are current NPL League members and the Colchesters and Beat are the "A Teams" in their respective age groups. Whether they competed in NPL League or not, they were certainly supposed to do. Moving forward they will not be NPL league members as they are moving on to ecnl
so watchung beat princeton easily and lost to the nj dynamo, does that mean the dynamo is better than the stallions and the arsenal? absurd, princeton has a ton of losses, let's see them beat the stallions
Princeton does not have "a ton" of losses just one bad tournament.
didn't they also lose to Haveford?
Princeton may indeed not a have "a ton of losses", but what do they do have? Since December, they have followed up a nice showing at NEWSS with several tournament appearances.Annandale Premier Cup (December 2012)- Two wins over Colonial League teams: ok,elite teams should win games like this without much difficulty.- Loss to Haverford Premier: not a good result against an inconsistent, non-elite opponent- Loss to PWSI: not a bad loss, but the kind of game teams need to win in order to be considered eliteManhattan Kickoff Classic (March 2013)- Win over New York SC: again, the kind of game elite teams win regularly; nothing special here- Loss to Oakwood: after beating them at NEWSS, not a step in the right direction, but Oakwood has been top 5 in Region 1 for a couple of years- Draw against HYS Freedon: this team is a shadow of its former self, and this is not an impressive result for PrincetonJefferson Cup (March 2013)- Draw against Oakwood: better than losing to them at Manhattan, but worse than winning at NEWSS; an acceptable outcome- Win over Penn Legacy: see notes on Annandale and Manhattan wins above; a decent result for Prnceton- Win over Herndon/Sterling Freedom: Much more like it, and a step in the right direction; elite teams should do this to Freedom now- Draw against NEFC: so-so result; NEFC is not a bad team, and may qualify for Premier League playoffs, but I think elite teams generally do better here, especially ones as offensively oriented as Princeton seems to be (and yes, I know who NEFC's keeper is)MSSL Spring College Showcase- Draw against North Rockland: Not impressive at all- Win over Match Fit: see comments on wins from previous three events; yawn- Loss to Watchung Hills: Ouch! This is a major clunker; no way around it- Draw against NJ Crush Dynamite White: Really? Ouch again.Yes, definitely one bad tournament (the most recent one), but the other three aren't particularly impressive, either.Admittedly, they had two strong tournament showings last fall, and the rest of the spring (EDP, State Cups, Colonial League) has generally been Princeton taking care of business, with the win over PDA Spurs is probably one of their better results. Since December, against the opponents with the strongest resumes (Oakwood, PWSI, Herndon/Sterling), they are just 1-2-2, with the only win coming over a side clearly in decline. And they still haven't gone toe-to-toe with any of the big girls yet, although they should get that chance against Stallions in the State Cup final.The PDA showcase may provide another opportunity to prove themselves against recognized, strong teams. Before that point, however, I think they absolutely must do two things: win out in the Colonial League (including the playoffs), and get to and show well in the NJ USYS State Cup final. Anything less in either event probably pushes them back down amongst the masses of wannn-be elite teams.While Princeton does seem perhaps to be a team on the rise, they still have a fair amount of work to do to be one of the elite teams in the region.
Pretty well said. Who's stock is on the rise and decline in this reason?
Nice research and very informative, even about some of the other teams etc.. mentioned. FYI - kind of coasted through the R1 Colonial 5 wins, and EDP another 6 wins, State Cup 3 wins including beating the Spurs pretty bad(very off day for Spurs). Princeton, a team near the top , but like poster said, needs to win a couple more big ones. Beating the Stallions would be huge, but not likely.
Wow ! Lots of soccer games for Princeton. Tough to show up at top level for that many games. Never heard of so many games in a Spring season, and not over yet. 4 top tournaments this year already?
Let's see, two in the fall, one in the winter, three thus far in the Spring, with PDA still to come. Plus playing in EDP and Colonial Leagues and both US Club and USYS state cups. This has all the earmarks of a team chasing GS points.Tough to maintain anything resembling a 3 to 1 training ratio with that kind of schedule.
Not sure what team your kid plays on, but that's a pretty average number of matches played for the top teams. This is the start of the showcase years. They better be playing in a bunch of tournaments to gain exposure.
Less can be more. You don't have to play in "a bunch of tournaments" if you play in the right ones. Play fewer matches, spend more time in training; be sharper and more polished when you do play. Wait, wasn't that what ECNL was selling? :)
Will PDA beat World Class on Friday?Little Disappointed SO FAR in their standings. Any guesses on what place they will finish in their conference?http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/teams/49564626/29694695-49564720/TEAM.htmlThey are on the cusp of not making the playoffs.Thankfully they beat some good teams in FL Showcase
I am amazed at what I am reading. I can't remember when I have read as much self-serving, self-centered garbage. For some reason, there is a sense of entitlement that comes across in these comments by virtue of the fact that a daughter plays ECNL or this league or that league. ECNL sure as hell ain't the end all for quality play and there are certainly good teams who choose to not play in ECNL. To not acknowledge that is simply naive. Belittling other teams or diminishing their quality of play, rather than admitting you lost and move on is petty. There is no such thing as a "lucky goal". One team worked hard to make an opportunity happen, one team did not. For every "the other team scored a lucky goal" there is a "wow how did they not score there". Get over yourselves. In my world, you earn respect by your play and behavior, not the initials on your jersey or the bumper sticker on your car. You parents are an embarassment to your kids.
Come late to the party much?I have just re-read all 20 posts on the current page, and don't see any that talk about lucky goals, the inherent greatness of ECNL, or any of the other items that seem to have stuck in your craw.Help me out here: what am I missing?I can understand your frustration and/or disgust with immature posters, but I fail to see the relevance of your rant in its current context. Your post seems to be separated by several days, roughly three dozen posts, and several turns of conversation from what I understand you to be railing against.
My apologies. I am new to this blog site and did not realize that there was a protocol that precluded me from having an opinion that was based on the totality of comments I was reading, not just the last 20. If you have to justify it, you aint it. Why diss other teams in the process. A loss is a loss. Don't qualify it, don't make excuses, and certainly don't disparage another team in the process. I have no dog in this fight, just making an observation.
Here we go again, let's bring up PDA and knock them down. ALl those PDA haters who live by having to know how they did, are doing and they love to see when they don't do well. Get a life and stop worrying about PDA. It's really sad actually, but amuzing to us all because you are so transparent.
Wow. There are a lot of Princeton stalkers on this website. Whoever heard of trying to figure out how many practices a team has had. Maybe they practice every night, like the Barcelona model.
Who is "stalking" Princeton or trying to figure out how many practices they have?I see analysis and observation, but no "stalking". Personally, I've never even seen them play, and don't care how often they practice, if at all.
What are the thoughts on southeast pennsylvania teams? Seems like there is healthy competition and teams moving up and down. Heard rumors of a new team FC Philadelphia (old Haverford?) that was drawing some good players. Will they compete with Penn Fusion, Delco, etc. Any rising teams? What are the thoughts on Delco Spirit merger? Semms to be the way these days. Just curious. Thanks
Princeton is just doing what it can to become top 3,4. They are putting a lot of effort in and should be commended for it. Take shots and play lots of high level comp tournaments. The only ones to reach their goals, Stallions and MSC do not have to do this because they are on top. They have already paid the dues and are reaping the benefits. Top 1,2 and awesome exposure for colleges.Rather take our shots now, then say what could've should've been.
Haskell-northwestern, kinkler-wake forest,bustamante-Dartmouth, raciopi duke, watts-Florida , PDA clash off to a good start as sophomores
Clash is a good team and the players have worked hard to earn the early verbals. Congrats!
NY JETS SELECT GENO SMITH WITH THEIR #39 PICK!J-E-T-SJ-E-T-SJ-E-T-S
Who cares, the J-E-T-S suck and Geno Smith will be a bust. You can't throw screen passes every play in the NFL. Product of a college offense. Yes, I know this is a soccer forum.
Wrong brand of football.
Wrong brand of football.
PDA 2WC 0Climbing the standings!Next Stop Penn Fusion then FC Bucks
Lets talk about the NPL and the NE Region.US Club Soccer has announced the creation of the Northeast Girls NPL as the newest addition to the organization’s National Premier Leagues (NPL).The Northeast Girls NPL will bring the total number of NPLs across the country to 18, with 11 clubs from five states set to compete in the U-13 through U-18 age groups.The following clubs will begin play in the Northeast Girls NPL during the Fall 2013 season:North Division· Albertson SC (N.Y.)· Connecticut FC (Conn.)· East Meadow SC (N.Y.)· FC Stars of Mass.· Scorpions SC (Mass.)· SoccerPlus Elite (Conn.)South Division· FC Bucks (Pa.)· Match Fit Academy FC (N.J.)· PDA (N.J.)· Penn Fusion (Pa.)· World Class FC (N.J.)“The NPL has enjoyed tremendous success in the northeast and we’re thrilled to be expanding that competitive landscape with the Northeast Girls NPL,” NPL General Manager Chris Baer said. “These 11 clubs will make for a league filled with high-quality talent and competition, and we’re excited for play to kick off this fall.”Teams in the U-13 and U-14 age groups will play 20-game seasons, and U-15 through U-18 teams will play 14-15 games per year. With competition split into two divisions, the top squads from each will face off in semifinals and a final to determine champions.“It is fantastic for our club to be part of the Northeast Girls NPL and further strengthen our association with US Club Soccer,” FC Stars of Mass Director of Coaching Jason Dewhurst said. “The league structure provides an optimum development platform for our players, facilitates appropriate player movement within all teams in our club and provides high-level competition against top-quality clubs and considerable college exposure for our older players. We are very much looking forward to the start of the Northeast Girls NPL next season."As with all NPLs, the winners of the Northeast Girls NPL will qualify for next year’s NPL Champions Cup, where they will take on top competition from around the country in a true “champions league” competition. The 2013 NPL Champions Cup will be held July 18-22 in Aurora, Colo.“PDA is very excited to be part of the Northeast Girls NPL,” PDA Girls Director of Coaching Mike O’Neill said. “The opportunity to improve the development and overall experience for the players at PDA is our top priority. Being part of the Northeast Girls NPL with other top clubs will accomplish that and much more.”
So in other words, the ECNL clubs have created a new league opportunity for their B teams? How "Premier" will that really be?
Still trying to find more then a few elite teams in ecnl. Not sure e stands for elite anymore? Soooo many leagues and great teams in all these leagues. Top 1 and 2 in the nation are?
Let the PAE NCS quaterfinal games continue! Cant wait to see who makes it to the semi's. Who do you think will in these match ups...FC Bucks Red vs PA Classics.Haverford Premier 97 vs LDC City Islanders.FC Revolution vs HMMS.Penn Legacy Black vs Rage
Princeton just got by a close one I hear yesterday. Reports are they were out played by the Coyote White team, but escaped with a 1-0 pk.?Barely slipping by a B team. Princeton not ready yet, unless they beat Stallions. Not.
Bucks vs HavefordHMMS vs PL Bucks vs Legacy in finalsLegacy wins states
There is no way on this earth legacy beats bucks. They are teams going in opposite directions.
Classics vs Haverford and Rev vs Penn Legacy.Haverford vs Penn Legacy in finals.Haverford wins it all. Its there time!
This isnt ecnl bucks its there non ecnl team in state cups. legacy is better then that team.
Princeton only won 1-0. Slackers.
12;56 seems to have picked it.Sets up a couple of good games. Anoyone know where and when these games will be?
Princeton's goal not a PK: scored on a free kick after MSC keeper handled ball outside the box. Regardless of who outplayed whom, Princeton won, which is after all the objective. MSC apparently got drilled the next day by their A team, but there is no transitive property of soccer scores.
MSC Coyotes A team beat their own B team in semi-final in Maryland State Cup? Is this the MSC that is Natioinal Champions? or does MSC stand for Manhattan Soccer Club. Two different teams I think.
Just use your computer to find the answer to your stupid question.
MSC does not have an A and B.
Princeton just squeaks by MSC White and then just gets past Holmdel in PK's. Sorry Princeton, that does not equate to top 10 in the Region. As one poster said a while back; Princeton is an up and coming team, but they have a long way to go to prove they can be consistent at the highest levels.
Penny penny penny
This isn't gymnastics; there are no points for style. Like Al Davis said, "Just win, baby!"Keep winning, keep advancing; that's how you prove you are the best.
Who are the hot teams that keep winning baby.
@6:55pm, the Princeton apologists are getting annoying. A couple of days ago a fellow Princeton apologist denigrates and diminishes a number of teams in a self serving analysis as to why Princeton should be considered "elite", even when they lose. Now when called on the carpet, winning is the only thing. You folks at Princeton need to take a position and stick to it. Can't have it both ways.
This is all a moot point. Princeton is losing many girls to Matchfit's ECNL team. It won't be the same come fall.
You also need to consider the possibility that one or more posters are not actually affiliated with Princeton but are just posting to generate reactions.We have seen that once or twice previously on this forum.
Ah, yes, unsubstantiated rumors of roster movement. It must be almost May.
@3:41 on 4/29:Manhattan Soccer Club River Plate:http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=186845Montgomery Coccer Club Coyotes Green:http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=61525Montgomery Coccer Club Coyotes White:http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=61522Maryland State Cup (U15):http://soccer.sincsports.com/TTSchedules.aspx?tid=STATEMD&year=2013&stid=STATEMD&syear=2013&div=U15F01Premier League:http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2013-Region-I-Premier-League/Schedule/U15-Girls/U15+Girls/Colonial League:http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2013-Region-I-Colonial-League/Schedule/U15-Girls/Division+1/That wasn't hard, was it?
Nice try Mr Poller:This is all a moot point. Princeton is losing many girls to Matchfit's ECNL team. It won't be the same come fall.
Where will that Match Fit team be playing out of? Heard different rumors from Holmdel to Roxbury to Middletown.This is just an inquiry -- alot of how that team will be made up has to do with where they will be located out of?
Princeton team is staying put. Stop the rumors please. Nothing ecnl can offer us that we do not already have.We have lots of interest from schools and some girls(3)Sophomores have already committed.Move on folks. Nothing here but a good little team competing. Win some, lose some. That's all.
Lets talk about the PDA SHowcase.Schedules are now posted.NON ECNLhttp://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?eventid=28931ECNLhttp://www.pdasoccer.org/docs/tournaments/pdagirlscollegeshowcase/ScheduleECNL15.pdf
How many top teams in tourney? Herndon/Sterling Freedom , MSC Coyotes not there. Are they scared?
Why be scared? They are two of the top teams in Region 1...one is even a National Champions , which nobody in thsi age group from region 1 can say....Having a break over Memorial Day weekend is not a bad thing...
What happened to FC Bucks Red winning NCS state cup?
Anyone familiar with the situation would know that the correct question regarding Sterling is "Are they playing at all?"As for MSC, it's obvious they're scared. I mean, they haven't played a quality opponent since last summer.Now, let's discuss this awesome oceanfront property in Wichita I'd like to sell you...
Funny. Wichita is in Kansas? Kansas is hosting 2013 National Championship series?I wonder which teams have already qualified?
Just for the record the national champions did play PDA in February. Nothing wrong with taking a weekend off if that is the case. Maybe they are resting, something crazy soccer parents don't think the girls need now and then. Getting ready for state cup, regionals and National(maybe). It's funny how no matter what the top teams do somebody is not happy with them.Life's a bitch sometimes
@5:14 Wonder no more.http://championships.usyouthsoccer.org/us_youth_soccer_national_league_teams_punch_tickets_to_2013_us_youth_soccer_national_championships/
Bring on the coyotes!!!4 ECNL Teams could give them a run for their money in REGION 1.
Lots of teams could give them a run for the money. Just because they won last year, I don't think anyone is seriously claiming or believing that they are somehow head and shoulders better than everyone else. One of the beauties of Region 1 is that there are a number if really good teams, and several more that can push the top teams on any given day. If you want to talk seriously about the best teams in the region, you're probably splitting hairs among the top five or so, IMHO (where the "H" is usually silent).
It goes for every age all of the US.No one team is so dominant that they will win every game. Doesnt happen anymore people.I would flip a coin when 2 very good teams play.Its a mistake or set piece here or there that will decide these games.
Seems like MSC has played a lot of the top teams in the country over the last few months. Not sure why people are going after them at the moment. I guess Princeton didn't play a game the last two days. Idle Hands perhaps.
who in Region1 of any quality has MSC beat over the Spring?
I think you could ask that question to any team in this region. It depends on who you consider the top teams in the region to be. I see that question as a can of worms, as it easily invites other people and yourself to attack the quality of other teams in the region. Unfortunately, that seems to be all this forum is good for. I for one won't give you the satisfaction of answering that question. I'm sure you're itching to tear apart the teams they have beaten so you can try to make some point that probably only makes sense to you anyways.
@ May 2 @ 12:01Finally, the voice of reason. But you know what, it is not so much the question of who they have beaten that provokes them (are you listening Princeton and PDA?), but rather who they lose to. Then the attacks/excuses start.
I guess this started out that not many good teams are at pda showcase and where are the MSC Coyotes playing? It seems the really really good teams start playing less when they are top(MSC, STALLIONS, pda, Sterling). Teams playing lots of games trying to get in top 5(give them credit for effort here- Princeton, Bucks, pwsi are playing everwhere and anywhere.
PA East NCS semi finals this weekend and here are my predictions...Haverford Premier 97 3-1 over PA Classics.Penn Legacy Black 2-1 over FC Revolution.
PA Classic 2-1 Penn Legacy 2-0Penn Legacy 2-1 in a nice mathcup of 2 clubs that have been trading girls back and forth.
A shame b/c Penn and Rev are the best of the bunch.
On a very good but not top 20 team, maybe top 100. Team is not playing many tournaments. When is the best time for college exposure for tournaments? Daughter is very talented and can play D3, but need the exposure or even the attempted exposure of playing in tournaments.At u-15now we played in exactly one tournament since Nov. last year.
You should already be e-mailing coaches with her schedule. Also if you are not on a top flight team you will need to get her into the camps that the college's she might be interested in run. Most schools are running one day camps on weekends(schedule issues with games) but most will also have summer camps in June/July that is needed to be seen. Nothing will be easy she(and you) will really need to be proactive to get her seen. Good Luck
Might be time to find a new team if they are not in many tourney's. That is where the coaches are going. Tryout season -- If she wants to play college you need to be on a team where she can be seen more.
a team on where she can be seen , great input here.
6:59 pm. I don't think ur giving Pa Classics and Haverford enough credit. Classics just beat #1 in the state and defending state champion in Super Nova, and Haverford ranked #2 in state has beaten the likes of PWSI and Princeton in the last 6 months. Dont rank by the name...rank by the game!
Nova isn't number 1 in state and haveford keeps getting petty handily. Pa is a horrible state if your top teams r losing by 3 4 and 5 goals
PDA Arsenal 4-0 over Penn Fusion today.
Thanks for the update PDA dad! Your still second in the state to the Stallions
Your welcome DB!
Who is DB .
Seconds in the state to the stallions.Third in the Ecnl conference to fc bucks and stars of mass.Pda dad is the biggest db.
What does DB mean.....
Which one are you refering to......lol
Not affiliated with PDA, but I noticed that they haven't played as many games as FC Bucks and Stars of Mass in ECNL conference -- still opportunity for them to rectify that issue. And they have head to head matchup coming up. Don't understand why anybody talks until season is complete. What's the point?
You noticed wrong then.W-L-TPDA has played 10 games 5-1-44 games left - Bucks/Delco/SoccerPlus/CFCBucks has played 10 games7-1-24 games left - PDA/Delco/WorldClass/PennFusionStars has played 12 games7-0-53 games left - East Meados x 2 and AlberstonProblem is they split this conference into 2 divisions. Meaning everyone doesnt play eachother twice. Stars will play 15 conference games while PDA and Bucks will only play 14. PDA/Bucks play eachother twice (bucks won 1st meeting). Stars plays each only once in which they tied each meeting.I can't see PDA winning this conference. More realistic would be second since Stars has 3 games left (2 vs East Meadow and 1 vs Alberston)PDA still has to play - Bucks/FC Delco/CFC/Soccer Plus. Now they could easily go 4-0 but if Stars wins all 3 games then PDA can't win the division.Bucks still has to play PDA/World Class/Penn Fusion/FC Delco. - For Bucks to stay in 1st they will need to go 4-0 (if Stars go 3-0). Highly unlikely. They wont beat PDA twice. They will beat World Class at home. Penn Fusion game I am sure they have circled but could go either way and they should beat Delco.Most likely final placement will be.1. Stars (by a point)2. FC Bucks3. PDA4. East Meadow5. Penn Fusion
Other issue is Stars got to play SoccerPlus twice.Which is the worse team in the conference.Where PDA and Bucks only played them one time.If Bucks or PDA wins the conference it will be more deserving in my eyes since Stars IMO is in the easier division plus both PDA and Bucks had to travel to Stars.
For once PDA doesn't get the cream puff draw and the justification flows. Predictable.
Penn Legacy HAMMERED FC revolution.(who just aren't the same team anymore)4-1 Final.Who will play Legacy in the PAE state finals. Pa classic or Haveford.Legacy is also in the finals of colonial league against Princeton. Seems like both those teams are running ship in the state right now and time to get some props.
Tough few weeks for pda. Pda Arsenal 3rd in their div. and very unlikely to better that. 3 rd means two other teams are better in their own div. pda spurs out played on Saturday, but only lost 2-1. Bucks come up big and Stars are really the stars.Lets see what happens this coming wkd with a few other top teams in the RI Playoffs. Looks like things are settling and pda will not have a team in the mix of top 5.Certainly like Stallions , Stars,MSC Coyotes, Bucks as top 4 and then a bunch are after.
i am totally lost by this post. ^^^^^Please type proper english with your next attempt.Thanks in advance.BTW - PDA had a great weekend.4-0 Over Penn Fusion! PDA South finishes 1st in Region 1 These teams are tops in this region like it or not.
Plus PDA Nitro in the Semi finals of state cups.All around great weekend for PDA!!HATER!!!!
Speaking of Region 1 Playoffs, does anyone have predictions for the games?
Yea PWSI wins on PKS of a 1-1 game against PDA SouthCoyotes win 2-0 against brentwood.Coyotes win 2-0 over PWSI
Pa classics defeats haveford 2to1.Penn legacy vs PA Classic for state championship.
I guess for some it will never gets old bashing PDA. Please get over it -- they are doing just fine. Even if they lose to bucks Saturday the world will not end. Let's see how the season plays out before we decide who the best teams are. Lots of factors as the girls get older --- injuries on all teams are really slowing teams down. Why is it so important to rank teams half way through. Stallions and MSC still have to get through state cups and regionals just like PDA/Bucks/Stars have to get through rest of season as well as Colorado.
wow- PDA rolled over Penn Fusion this weekend! 4-0, what a beating! Funny how quite PF are when they lose.
Penn Fusion way overrated. Still think Stallions are top with MSC Coyotes having an incredible run since last Summer. Might come to unexpected end soon, but have to give them kudos for Region 1 champs, then off to Nationals Champions in South Carolina, Top in Their National League div and winning in Los Vegas, and blowing through Region 1 Premier all up and down the North East Coast. Head to Head on talent alone I still take Stallions, but MSC Coyotes just wins everything.Two awesome teams that could just play each other week after week after week. It would be big news if and when one of these teams finally loses.
All teams lose. MSC lost in Preseason to a very good PDA team and Stallions lost in Dallas. Every team loses. What makes certain teams better than others is the overall consistency and style of their play.
Please stop playing everyone here. Not one PDA, Stallions or Coyote parent is going to come on this anonymous blog and talk about being #1 or in the top 10 or any other unimportant garbage. They, like the parents of every other top ranked team, know just how hard it is to assemble a team that competes at this level and what goes into their girls efforts to win each and every game and tournament. There are NO pushover teams here and NONE of the players deserve to have their efforts minimalized by people playing anonymous games for their foolish reasons.
Can not get any more consistent then Stallions and MSC Coyotes. Stallions more talent, athletic and physical then anyone period. Coyotes under talented with no stars, but play better as a team then anyone, anywhere. Stallions play next week, so come out and watch them.Tickets available online.
Style points comes with winning. Stallions got style.
I thought that Penn Fusion got the superstar from PDA South? Who could they lose?
Does anyone know when the U15 Cup semifinals are - and where?Thanks
Pda number 1 in this region. They have beat both stallions and coyotes this year. They are the only team in this region with 1 or fewer loses all year long.Please tell me something different.
US CLUB Semis are Sat at Mercer County Dump.
1:37 You are wrong. I went to GotSoccer and neither team has played PDA in league or tournament competition for over a year since Spring pre-season at U-14. So, you are wrong. How they stack up against each other is anyone's guess. My guess is that any games between these three teams will be great games and at the end, win or lose the players will only have more respect for each other and will be grateful for the high level competition. As will their parents.
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