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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1654 Newer› Newest»Top 3 teams in the state PDA, Rage, and NJX all in same side of the bracket in the fall state cup. Other side were 2nd tier academy teams and low and lower level town teams.
NJX Parent, why would you say they will lose to you guys. Do you remember your scrimmage and this post from one of your parents? By the way I am a NJX Hater!
Post from Feb 26, 2013: First I would like to applaud Match Fit parents. I thought the blog would have been blown up this past week and it was not after our scrimmage. To me it really shows these Match Fit parents are not posting on this site.
I have never posted on this site; yes I read this blog as many of us do. For me, I felt the need to respond today after reading the 4:13 poster.
I am a parent where my daughter plays for one of the “top 3 teams” according to this blog. Recently, I was able to witness first hand this Match Fit team. Match Fit did scrimmage our team 11v11 outdoors, prior to the game, I said there is no way Match Fit would be able to compete vs my daughter’s team. Reason for my thinking, is that I guess I feed into this blog and did believe we have a top team, other reason was Match Fit plays 8v8 and have no experience playing 11v11.
Wow was I wrong, to the poster 4:13, for a comment you made “my guess is if they add a few more technically sound players to the mix, they will be a team to be reckoned with in the future” This team was so technically sound, foot skills were superior and the short game and quick passes outshined PDA. I walked away from the scrimmage, in disbelief. I think our team only had 2 shots on goal; our girls were beaten to every loose ball. I felt like this team was toying with our girls. I could not tell you how many times this team strung 5-6-7-8 passes in row and more. Our team did not even enter there 3rd of the field in the 2nd half at all. To make it worse, I found out the next day, Match Fit did not have all there Lady Falcon players. I would say this team had over 60% possession, more like 70% in my evaluation. It was embarrassing.
In every aspect of the game, we were outplayed and over matched. There midfielders totally controlled the game and it was nice to watch how a team uses everyone on the field. I wish our team would see how this team played and start to get back to basics. Pass ball back to defenders, work on ball skills and first touch and PASS the BALL.
All I know I spoke too many of our parents and we got a true reality check. These girls will indeed be the team to beat in the future. All I can say this blog can not knock them for playing 8v8 or not be mentioned with 11v11 teams because they do not play this format. They are in my opinion, the top team in NJ!
Match Fit you have a great bunch of talented girls!
Wholy Crap, its a conspiracy!
LOL, you know I wrote a while back in regards to Match Fit, to just be prepared for the bashing. I guess I was a month or 2 early.
PDA - A win is a win and a win like yours is nothing to be ashamed of. Look folks, there are levels of play, and its when those level of play are crossed, you need to ask yourself 1 question:
Is it the team that is playing at level or the team that broke the golden rule of why there are levels, that is to blame for a completely lopsided game?
Why bash what is the basic rule to any living creature, the strong survive, and the weak shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Would a Lion just eat the tail of a Bison and then say, "Thanks for coming by, I am just going to take a nibble, then you can go!". I think NOT
Would an Alligator just gnaw on its prey and then set it free? Not unless there is a new definition to "THE DEATH ROLL"
So why would a Stronger level Team not treat its weaker opponent in similar fashion?
They can all be defined in the same way... The weaker was in the wrong place at the wrong time and the Strong survive!
Ok, all you "I want people to like me so I am going to bash this post"
Yes, we have larger brains! Yes, we believe in sportsmanship! Yes, we hold ourselves to a much higher standard, when compared to Lion's and Alligators. GIVE ME A BREAK!
If your team could have beat the STRONGER, you would have beat them 100 to 0 if you could! Paid the fine and went home as happy as PIGS IN S--T! Why the double standard!
Back to more fun stuff!
Match Fit, Smatch Fit! - Great post, made me laugh and love the humor! MATCH FIT FAN HERE TOO! But I said it before they started winning in NJ!
The word of the devil.... B TEAM .... Did I scare ya? Well, Did I? Dont kid yourself, a "B" Team is just fine. Yes, if you have those dreams of your daugter wearing the RED,WHITE & BLUE, representing our beautiful country, so I can run to the top of MOUNT NEW JERSEY to scream to my friends and neighbors and say, "LOOK, MY DAUGHTER IS ON TV TONGIHT!" and you hear someone yell..."GREAT, WHAT CHANNEL AND TIME!" so you can reply, "2:00am ON CHANNEL 342, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SATELLITE TV!" a "B" Team is NOT for you!
For the 99.99999% rest of us. B TEAM, 2nd TEAM, etc... are fine places for your child to continue their education on something they love to do.
I take golf lessons, in fact I spend more money then I like to admit to my wife. Some day I am going to break 90! Its a sport I love, I might not be the best, but will always be something I want to improve in!
Whats the difference?
Just a fun post, hope you enjoyed it!
p.s. Yes, I am an idiot, so you dont need to waste cyberspace by typing it!
1:17 Funny read and I don't think you are an idiot - but I do disagree with your "B" team comment.
Why would the "99.99999% rest of us" spend $2k on a B team if your kid will play against similar teams if not the same teams for 500 bucks or less?
Nothing wrong with a B team if it's treated the same way the A team is - play against the same teams - so they get trashed - if you are spending 2k on a B team your not spending 2k for results - you are spending 2k for training and having your kid play against the best so they can improve their play - results are for the A team to get into the big tournaments - the b teams just need to play the same comp.
Maybe I'm the idiot - but 2k to have my kid play on a B team or have my kid play on a town team for 500 or less to play against the same teams - to me that's an easy choice.
PS. What's wrong with the Kids that want to represent our Country or any Country, you forget that we have a lot of dual citizenship kids in our country. For them it will be a lot easier to represent their country than it will be the USA.
AND FOR SURE I WOULD BE TELLING EVERYBODY my KID WAS PLAYING ON TV REPRESENTING THEIR NATION - you wouldn't?
Just for the record I loved your post - good fun.
Below are the EDP standings going into this weekend.
Avt Pts >> Team >> Games Played ( )
Girls U11 First Division North
3.00 MU/STA HEAT (2)
2.00 SDFC SAMBA (2)
2.00 HICKSVILLE HOTSHOTZ (2)
1.50 NEW YORK SC G01 (2)
1.00 NJ WILDCATS -ASL (3)
0.67 TSF ACADEMY INTER (3)
0.50 RAMAPO VALLEY TORNADOS RED (2)
0.50 MANHATTAN G'01 PRIDE (2)
Girls U11 First Division South
3.00 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (3)
3.00 HOLMDEL NJX CELTIC (2)
1.00 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (4)
1.00 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '02 (3)
0.50 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (4)
0.33 ATLANTIC UNITED AVALANCHE (3)
LOL!
Town B team, Club B team, I am sorry I didn't specify. Either is fine, I was just saying the CURSE WORD "B" Team is not as bad as the "F" word!
I wouldn't tell everyone to watch my daughter, are you nuts! I would have a god damn Party, starting at 1:30am, and have it catered by the greatest chef's in america (Or whatever your countries nationality you are representing)!
And, NO, I would not let the B team play the A teams and get beat up! Remember the Lion and the Alligator! Stay the level, your kids will not know the difference, its just you crazy parents that do!
And lastly, YES you are an idiot like me, if you like my post!
:-)
USA Women's Soccer will be the best ever 7 years from now. There are so many superstars playing at U11, it's mind blowing.
Don't get me started on USWMNT soccer. We better start changing something or in 7 years we'll be looking up at the rest of the world just like the USMNT. But that's a story for another day - I don't think an u11 board is the place for that talk.
2:27 I admit I am an idiot.
I remember the "death roll" almost as good as Shark Week - but my point is Club B team should not be treated any different than the A team - why is it a B team - 1 of two reasons the Kid is not ready or the Coach thought the kid wasn't ready because the Kid doesn't fit that style of coach.
The player showed enough skill to make the club, why else would the club take the player, money?. Just saying
A Clubs B team is a group of players that have skill - they just need to use it against stronger comp so they can learn to play faster and think faster.
So they get lose a few games by a 5-0 score line - so they don't score any goals for an entire season - isn't the point to develop the girls and get them ready for the next level?
Who cares about results of u11 games besides us Parents.
The post from 2:27 is probably the best ever post on this blog page.
Just for the record I also posted the EDP standings - My kid plays on the A team - I just think the B teams should be treated the same way.
Note: I am talking about the Big Clubs that charge around 2k regardless of A or B team.
Not the smaller CLubs or Town teams that have both A and B
B team is just that. Not first or A, but B team is second or last. If you do not win in a final, you lose.
2k plus, more like 2500-3000 when all is said and done, and funny when the trainers come around to only the B team to get more money(I mean to train your daughter for just the additional $) just a little more and they might promote your daughter to A TEAM.
Coaches want to try to make a living in soccer. "A" team has to win, B team helps finance, with the great hope of playing A team.
Oh,where did development go ? Kinda of crazy that some of the so called lower teams are actually developing. Watched a great coach the other evening stay after practice and work on a few things with a player for 30-40 minutes.
Didn't happen at an academy, car race after practice.
Storm? Daddy coach, same guy that bolted on the team at a tournament for a a a a a a dare say Basketball?
Sounds like a great side job.
4:53 what's the difference between an A and B team if they both play the below teams?
Rage
Crush
MathFit
NJX
PDA Storm
If both teams cost 2.5k - you get the same thing quality training and games against quality comp. So it wouldn't matter if your kid was A or B for a big Club Team? The better team goes to the big tournaments and the not so good result team has it's kids playing top notch comp.
4:42 not 4:53
It is ok to be B team. Second level brackets at tournaments mean the right level competition and possible points.
Just difficult later on when asking a coach to come see your daughter on the B team. But they train together? Just practice girls for A team. We need a team to practice against, and what better way to have them pay 1/2 the expenses: fields, coaches, trainers, and tournaments for us.
Just remember the girls on THE "ALSO TEAMS" B and C the less expensive for us, and you by the way.
Players May Only Play for One Team
Players may only play for one team participating in the New Jersey Cup. Players may not play for different teams in different age groups, or different clubs, even if their team gets eliminated.
If you are paying the same price for the B team as players are paying for the A team, then you are the fool, not the club!
It sounds like the town teams are hoping/pushing to get Dragon, Lady Jaguar, etc. players to come to their tryout. Nice move to push that on this blog.
...or it is town team parents hoping to open some spots on the B Teams for their daughter to make the clubs.
Good luck.
Super Group:
Each bracket has a Top quality team:
Holmdel NJX
Rage
NJ Crush
Match Fit
Then each bracket, has what every says is a lower tier team:
PDA Ajax
SDFC
NJ Wildcats
South Jersey
East Brunswick
Somerset Hills
STA- (Semi finalist last fall)
Northern Valley
TSF- (Semi finalist last fall)
Semi's should be Holmdel vs Rage and Crush vs Match Fit
When does crush play sta?
10:02 None of the above just my opinion - but I can see how it can look that way when we all post anonymous - good point.
No good girls at the PDA tryouts 2 weeks in a row!! Maybe the storm will have to take dragons just to make it look like daddy coach is developing players. Oh wait he is leaving games for basketball! Boy are you parents fooled!!!!!
Its still funny hearing all of you loonies. First our girls are 10 and 11 year olds. You parents create this environment and its unhealthy. You all should be ashamed and just stay home on game day. Second, every team will change to a point starting this summer when the teams that lost and added players start tournament play to get use to each other. U-12 will be flushed with new teams so who cares who is the best right now, it doesnt matter. With regards to the current teams, a 1-0or 2-0 win or loss means crap. It means the teams are even and the game can go either way. Stop patting yourselves on the backs for your kids work and grow the f up. Enjoy tryouts everyone and have some freakin fun.
I am a little confused. Why in the world would someone from PDA post about tryouts.
Reading between lines:
1. I would think that a lot of talents players did attend and trying to BS everyone on this blog
2. PDA Dragon parents are posting this, thinking they will have a shot to move up to Storm team.
3. Truly, players that attended are not up to par with rest of teams.
I doubt it is # 3 or # 2.
PDA draws talent, in other words I bet there were many girls at tryouts that can flat out play!
What a bunch of crap, every sport can say the same, but there are winners and losers in sports, that's what its all about.
And for the other poster, would not surprise me to actually see you sitting in PDA parking lot watching tryouts that have nothing to do with you. If this was about a girl and not a soccer club seperation, you would have a restraining order against you. And we all now that you truly are a loser.
PDA parents sitting in parking lot at tryouts? lol
Actually on side lines watching and taking notes on whom is going take their girls position. Did you see what that mom was wearing? Oh my! She really wants her kid to make it.
Whats a matter, not enough PDA talk, all you PDA parents want PDA back on the board started by PDA and run by someone from PDA so PDA can talk about PDA about everything and anything PDA does whether its good PDA or bad PDA, just to say PDA is acceptable to PDA...
PDA draws talent at tryouts and steals talent during the season! There is nothing wrong with it! GET OVER IT!
Feel better? Now go blow it out your PDA arses!
Phew... now I feel better!
You are right, there are winners and losers! The kids are the winners and the parents are the losers... we are all losers and we all know it!
1-0 or 2-0 game is a great game! It means everyone is playing at the right level and it was a nail biter! A season of those games would be very satisfying!
Keep drinking the kool aid 10:20. The Semis will be who wins the quarters. You don't have a clue. Just repeating the same nonsense over and over while you all butt smooch each other.
5:04 thanks for the cool aid! just my opinion. lets see who is correct
Just heard on 880 CBS radio traffic report that Rt520 all backed up already as cars are parked on edge of road waiting for NJX tryouts on Saturday morning. Expecting big crowd of girls - well over the 100 that was predicted in an earlier post. They will look at 100+ girls, call back 3 for a 2nd look & only take one of them. The rest will go back to their exist teams. Happens every year.
In PA, or at least in southeastern PA, it seems most of the best players from the town teams left before the U10 and U11 seasons to join one of the higher level PAGS teams.
For example, some Hatboro players have gone to the Ukrainians. Some Greater Chester Valley and Brandywine players have gone to WCUSC. Some Interboro and Rose Tree players have gone to Nether. Some Springfield players have gone to FC Europa (also known as TEYSA).
Depending on your point of view, this is either a wonderful consolidation of talent into 8-10 teams that can now play each other, or its a disheartening development and the death of the neighborhood team of classmates.
I expect next spring there will be another round of consolidation as the players from the best PAGS squads tryout for the ECNL clubs: FC Buck, Penn Fusion, FC Continental (formerly FC Delco).
So, it's pretty clear that there are different flavors of soccer out there: town teams, high level PAGS, and then ECNL. These levels take about four years to sort themselves out.
Occasionally, there will be a player who barely makes an ECNL. This player will have parents who brag relentlessly about how their daughter plays ECNL. Similarly, there will occasionally be a good player who does not make an ECNL team, and ends up playing for that tier just below ECNL. This player's parents will mock all of those who pay high fees to play at an ECNL club.
Rare is the parent who will say, "All this money I'm spending for ECNL is a waste". Rarer still is the parent who will say, "I wish my kid played ECNL, but they just haven't done well enough at tryouts".
That all being said, it stands to reason the town team that plays a high level PAGS team (indoor, outdoor, wherever) will treat that as their World Cup. It is a compliment to both teams when a town team loses 0-3 to one of the big dogs, and is pleased about it.
Simply put, nobody roots for Goliath (or PDA, or Match Fit, or whoever), but simply being referred to as a Goliath is a compliment in and of itself.
Peace.
Agreed - Not sure what else anyone can add to that, Nice read.
This is why I love all the posts made on this board - some are honest opinions while others are all in fun (for the poster)- sometimes you just have to read in between the lines. Unfortunately, sometimes it's a middle finger.
PA. If your kid's team is playing this weekend in state cup - good luck.
Nice post!
PA state cup result
WCUSC 2 HMMS 1
PA
TEYSA 3 Nether 2 (OT)
TEYSA tied it at 2 with about two minutes left in regulation. And went ahead 3-2 with about three minutes left in OT. Both goals off of corner kicks. Second one was actually ver nice.
They're playing 8 v 8 in PA, right?
"HOT OFF THE PRESS"
PDA merging with TRFC
We now have PDA North,South and now East......HHMMMM who they going to merge with in the West??
GACR!!!!! PDA is taking over folks.
Where is the press release?
Can't beat'm buy'm
Big govt. tactics. Can not raise the prices with so mant good little clubs charging reasonable amounts for youth soccer.
pda will offer free pay to those on welfare, and food stamps with new gov't money to sponsor them.
Middle class? @^$%(! again !
Hey 8 39 poster, how is you social life? Posting bs on youth soccer on Saturday night, nice life dude!
Any scores today from EDP, JAGS, NJ Cup?
East Brunswick beat Somerset Hills 1-0 in a well played game today.
Another 1-0 loss for SH. What a surprise. Hey SH you have to get a few of your players out of your own 18 to score a goal. Your not doing your players any favors by saying we only lost 1-0 every week.
It's always funny to look at the posts from retards attacking teams that don't bother anyone. For instance, the Somerset Hills, Manalapan, East Brunswick and say Toms River type teams. Every team has its ups and downs at any age. It's a holes like the above poster that should be ashamed of being even a human being. With that said you must be a PDA parent since most of you are not human. You must be a Dragon parent hoping that the top kids from these teams come and play for you to end your miserable life. For the record, since your memory sucks and your probably just stupid. Those above teams have done well against most if not all of the self proclaimed top teams. If you don't know yet, U11 soccer means squat you butt hole! Start yapping next season when points are tracked and your poor PDA teams get stomped on, I've said my peace for today, now go look at yourself in the mirror and keep telling yourself how successful and popular you are!
Just as the teams mentioned above get unjustified criticism at times, PDA takes a lot of blame for comments made/stirred by others. Keep that in mind also. Just an objective observation.
'GAKSTER',First off me and my wife truly enjoy your comments it really lightens up a stuffy mean blog .That being said is it true the GAK is gonna have a mass exodus after the season ,me and my wife talked to several of your top players parents and they were fast to say there gone after the season.GAKSTER SAY IT ISNT SO !!!!! I THOUGHT YOUR DEFENSE HAD ONE GOOD GIRL,OFFENSE NON EXSISITENT, AND WAY TO MANY COACHES GOOD LUCK GAKSTER WE WILL MISS YOU OTHER THAN THAT KEEP IT UP
Hey jackass what type of teams are east brunswick, tr, sh, manalapan? Once again it is a anonymous blog, until that changes, you cant say certain teams dont bother anyone. Also can we stop with the ecnl talk, as everyone says on this blog it is only u-11 soccer.
wow - someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today !! isn't it great how everyone gets along so well together ?
7:29 poster does have a valid point on Somerset Hills, I believe.
Styles make games, true....
and playing defensive soccer can work....
but having seen this team you wonder how a re-thinking of the model (by a very good coach) might help.
Cheers, all.
"...several of your top players parents and they were fast to say there gone after the season."
"top players"??
I believe you meant to say "top player". Without their stopper, they lose every game 6-0.
ecnl starts and counts at u-15. The original design is for u-15 and up.
Added u-14 to try to capture and reel in feeder age. Needed more money so added u-13 pre-ecnl. Need still more money and adding jr ecnl etc..
Sounds like a revenue issue, since they cut the number of games in favor of more training. Tournaments, well cut them down too. I have a daughter playing ecnl in NJ, and now we can not get out. No HS or State Cup and must wear uniforms to practices/ training sessions. Pretend it is a game. Fees are outrageous and are going up. More administrators then
FEMA.
What's in your wallet?
"Sounds like a revenue issue, since they cut the number of games in favor of more training. Tournaments, well cut them down too. I have a daughter playing ecnl in NJ, and now we can not get out. No HS or State Cup and must wear uniforms to practices/ training sessions. Pretend it is a game. Fees are outrageous and are going up. More administrators then
FEMA.
What's in your wallet?"
It always has been & always be about the benjis. Some of these clubs have perfected a way to sell suckers on the promise of a fullride to a D-1 school.
And they giggle themselves on way to the bank, about how easy it is...
PA State Cup final four
Ukrainians at WCUSC
Penn Legacy at TEYSA
My daughter does not play for any of these four, but I've seen all four of these teams play.
All have good athletes and play very physically. To rank from most physical to least, I'd say: TEYSA, WCUSC, Ukrainians, Penn Legacy. But this is splitting hairs as they are all big and tough.
Skill wise it's a mixed bag with WCUSC a little better than the Ukrainians who are significantly more skilled than Penn Legacy who are more skilled than TEYSA.
Goalies. Best to worst: Ukrainians, Penn Legacy, TEYSA, WCUSC.
Just my opinion. Both semifinals will be evenly fought matches, but I think the winner of WCUSC vs Ukrainians will be the favorite in the finals.
To the person who asked a few posts back, yes, PA plays 8v8 at U11. They also play 8v8 at U12.
wow, what's with that Middletown post going at it with GAK? WE like GAKster, GAKation, Special gaK Cereal, GAKiacs, Quack Quack for GAK, etc. Saw that Middletown won 1-0, probably a game that could have gone either way as most 1-0 games are at this age. What happened?
NY CUP 2013 u11G Quarter Finals
HBC Soccer Club Barracudas
vs. Everton America CT U11 Girls Blue
Hicksville American Soccer Club Hotshotz
vs. White Plains Youth SA United 02
East Islip Soccer Club Dynamite
vs. World Class FC '01 Charlton
FC Sting FC Sting 2001
vs. North Rockland SA Renegades
NJ Cup 2013 - Girls U11 Super Group Quarter Finals
0 - TSF Academy
3 - Match Fit Chelsea Lady Falcons
Morris United/STA Heat Red
vs NJ Crush FC Tsunami
Rage FC Premier Freedom
vs. East Brunswick Lightning
Holmdel NJX Celtic
vs. PDA Ajax
Thank you PA
No need to post match ups - already covered.
Avt Pts followed by team with games played in ( )
EDP Girls U11 First Division North
2.33 HICKSVILLE AMERICAN SOCCER HOTSHOTZ (3)
2.00 SDFC SAMBA (2)
2.00 NEW YORK SC G01 (3)
2.00 MU/STA HEAT (3)
1.25 TSF ACADEMY U10 GIRLS INTER ACADEMY (4)
1.00 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-ASL (3)
0.33 MANHATTAN G'01 PRIDE (3)
0.33 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS RED (3)
EDP Girls U11 First Division South
3.00 RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM (3)
3.00 HOLMDEL STALLIONS SC NJX CELTIC (2)
1.00 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '01 (4)
1.00 SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '02 (3)
0.50 FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (4)
0.33 ATLANTIC UNITED AVALANCHE (3)
Avt Pts followed by team with games played in ( )
NYCSL GIRLS U11 NYPL D1
3.00 Kosmos FC Nikh (3)
2.40 East Islip SC Dynamite (5)
2.33 World Class FC '01 Charlton (3)
2.00 International Girls FA 01-02 (4)
1.75 Atletico FC 01 (4)
0.80 FC Sting FC STING 2001 (5)
0.75 FC Clarkstown SC Moran '02 (4)
0.75 Intense Soccer Academy Brazil 01 (4)
0.50 Kings Park SC Hot Shots (4)
0.25 Match Fit Academy FC Lady Jaguars (4)
Avt Pts followed by team with games played in ( )
PAGS U11 Division 1
2.50 Lehigh Valley United '01 (4)
2.25 YMS Banshees (4)
2.25 MOT Roadrunners Blue (4)
1.33 Springfield FC SIZZLE (3)
1.20 Vincent United Vengeance (5)
0.50 Central Delaware SA Glory (2)
0.33 Concord Independence (2)
0.00 Parkland Power (1)
0.00 Haverford Hawks (2)
Calling all storm wannabes teams not made seal your deal tonight 5 to 7 in flemington
I'm not to sure about all the top players moving after this season for the GAK, I do know some are concerned about training(3) players and (3) more on the fence, but that will all change once they see the new trainers for the GAK, and as far as the Middletown game, GAK dominated the first half and could not score, then in the second half Middletown made a couple personel adjustments and owned the second half.
Gakster, with all due respect you did not dominate any part of that game. Twice we;ve played & twice we have won, 9 out of 10 times we win you haven;t played us on that one time yet where the ball bounces your way or ref call goes your way. Until then, you aren't beating us.
Had to take care of something and didn't have a sec to post JAGS.
Avt Pts followed by team with games played in ( )
JAGS U11 MAPS
3.00 PDA Ajax (2)
2.00 East Brunswick Lightning (3)
1.50 PDA Dragons (2)
1.50 Manalapan Dynamite (2)
0.00 SHSC Flash (3)
Lets show MOSA Girls Division U-11 Premier some love.
Avt Pts followed by team with games played in ( )
2.50 Middletown S.C. Vision Red (4)
2.25 Howell United S.C. Outlaws (4)
2.33 Wall SC Liberty (3)
1.00 Colts Neck Soccer Club Cosmos (3)
0.75 GAK Spirit (4)
0.00 Staten Island United Lightning (4)
The FC Delco 11v11 flights
Championship (11v11)
Bracket A
NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)
PDA AJAX (NJ)
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U11 ELITE (MA)
MATCH FIT CHELSEA LADY FALCONS (NJ)
Bracket B
MORRIS UNITED /STA HEAT RED (NJ)
HICKSVILLE AS HOTSHOTZ (NYE)
EAST BRUNSWICK SC LIGHTNING (NJ)
HOLMDEL FC NJX CELTIC (NJ)
Elite (11v11)
Bracket A
MATCH FIT CHELSEA LADY JAGUARS (NJ)
TOMS RIVER FC COPA '01 (NJ)
FC COPA LIMA (NJ)
Bracket B
PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD)
WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM-WHITE (NYE)
ISA BRAZIL 01 (NYE)
Very Nice top 8v8 flight
Championship (8v8)
Bracket A
WEST CHESTER UNITED SC WCUSC PREDATORS'01 (PAE)
NORTH ROCKLAND RENEGADES (NYE)
PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)
MANHATTAN SC G01 PRIDE (NYE)
Bracket B
HMMS SPIRIT (PAE)
X-TREME SELECT SC X-TREME (ON)
EAST ISLIP DYNAMITE (NYE)
WORLD CLASS FC '01 STRIKERS (NYE)
Elite (8v8)
Bracket A
EAST MEADOW SKY BLUE (NYE)
LOWER MACUNGIE YA 01/02 LMYA GRIZZLIES (PAE)
PA CREW ACADEMY PREMIER (PAW)
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER YMS
BANSHEES (PAE)
Bracket B
RAGE SC '01 (PAE)
ALLEYCAT RED U11 (NYE)
KINGS PARK HOT SHOTS (NYE)
GBFC 01 SELECT (NYW)
Bracket C
THUNDER FURIA ROJA (MD)
HARLEYSVILLE FC UNITED '01 (PAE)
ALBERTSON ADRENALINE (NYE)
PHWM FC PUMAS (MD)
Bracket D
CLEVELAND FC U11 GOLD (ON)
SPIRIT UNITED SC BARCA '01F (PAE)
FREESTATE NORTH RED (MD)
LOUDOUN SOCCER LOUDOUN 01 G RED (VA)
April 29, 2013 at 7:48 AM- You really think you should be calling parents out? Nice post attacking other clubs, very positive! Sounds like you have the issues.
I think he/she was defending clubs, not attacking them
Can we support the girls for the rest of season with out attacking?
Let's get through to June and see what happens?
Sounds like a good idea. Stay positive.
It's a great division across 7, 8 states (that we follow)
We should all be enjoying the competition.
I think most do, without needing to mock others...
Looks like the ECNL clubs formed the Northeast NPL with a North Division & South Division
— Albertson SC (N.Y.)
— FC Bucks (Pa.)
— Connecticut FC (Conn.)
— Match Fit Academy FC (N.J.)
— East Meadow SC (N.Y.)
— FC Stars of Mass.
— PDA (N.J.)
— Penn Fusion (Pa.)
— Scorpions SC (Mass.)
— World Class FC (N.J.)
— SoccerPlus Elite (Conn.)
The NYCSL NPL Division will also include the following current members for the 2013-14 season:
Brentwood Soccer Club (N.Y.)
HBC Soccer Club (N.Y.)
Intense Soccer Academy (N.Y.)
Massapequa Soccer Club (N.Y.)
N.J. Crush
N.Y. Rockland Sting
New York Rush
NJSA 04 (N.J.)
Oakwood Soccer Club (Conn.)
Parsippany Soccer Club (N.J.)
Yankee United (Conn.)
Plus the 5 NEW CLUBS
Aztec Soccer (Mass.)
Mass Premier Soccer (Mass.)
Morris United STA (N.J.)
NEFC (Mass.)
Seacoast United (N.H.)
What's EDP NPL going to DO?
As 2:37 just pointed out we have some really nice club teams at this age
AND all the regional Powers are all hooking up to play each other in NPL
Does that mean they say see you later to R1 Premier and Colonial leagues?
If so that just opened the door for a bunch of smaller clubs to be accepted into the R1 leagues.
Very interesting.
It looks like the big dawgs have the NPL leagues.
I like this US Club Soccer model of NPL. they accept a league who accepts 10 to 12 Clubs that have the same plan and make them play each other at different age groups. Then send the League Champions to a Champions Cup to be played somewhere New each year.
Kind of a better spin on the ECNL model I think.
Lots of great clubs and teams off the lists. So clubs putting b and c teams in this new league? not sure how competitive that can be. Be very difficult to explain to the parents that we travel 200 miles and spent an extra $250.00 this weekend to lose 4-0, or even win 5-0.
Development? I think not.
With all these NEW teams (b.c) how are they going to get into top level Tourneys? lowest brackets, or just makeup a new bracket and call it the .... for these teams.
I do hope for the best, but money always motivates these things (expansion) Youth soccer is a 3.8 billion dollar business.
BUSINESS and looks like the top CEO's are trying to take over and make more money.
I know everyone wants the best for their daughter and seems like they(The Leagues) feed off it.
And just when I made some sense. Let me blow peoples minds with, The private HS where my daughter will go, well every Senior player the last 5 years has received a scholarship. Most of them FULL when combined with soccer and academics. I know, crazy to even talk about HS soccer? Of course all the girls in area play on top R1 teams, and HS is $12,000 yr.
3:33 why would Clubs put B and C teams in the NPL?
Not all the Clubs are ECNL.
I think R1 is going to take a hit not NPL
Look at this year's Colonial league, they added u12 - and They didn't get enough teams to form a Flight.
I hope the EDP NPL is going to evolve into a Club based league instead of this team concept.
I also read on a different board - that it's possible US Club Soccer might be thinking promotion/relegation. Can that be true? Would be interesting.
I'm curious to see what R1 looks like next year. Since a bunch of the top clubs are now in NPL leagues.
Can someone please explain the differences between R1, Colonial, NPL, EDP and ENCL? Thanks in advance and use small words.
USYSA - is split into 4 regions (NY,NJ, PA and 5 other states are in Region 1). R1 has a Premier league (top Division) and Colonial league (division b). Teams can qualify for nationals from the Premier League
NPL - National premier leagues - currently has 18 member leagues from all across the United States. The Champions of each of these leagues qualify for the NPL Champions Cup.
ECNL - is a league with 60+ clubs from across the USA - each club puts a team in u14/u15/u16/u17/u18 It's the closest thing the girls have to a DA (US Soccer Development Academy).
These leagues are all regional/national leagues. True "travel" leagues.
Currently we have 3 NPL leagues.
NYCSL NPL
EDP NPL
and the "new" North East Girls NPL
So while GAK is fighting for MOSA bragging rights
NPL teams are playing for a National title, starting at u13.
NPL Clubs (no EDP clubs listed - since EDP is not club based)
NEW YORK 8 clubs
· ISA
· NY Rush
· Massapequa
· HBC
· Brentwood
· Albertson
· East Meadow
· North Rockland
NEW JERSEY 6 clubs
· NJSA
· Match Fit
· PDA
· NJ Crush
· Parsippany
· PDA
CONNECTICUT 4 clubs
· Oakwood
· Yankee United
· CFC
· Soccer Plus
MASSACHUSETTS/NEW HAMPSHIRE 6 clubs
· NEFC
· MPS
· Seacoast United
· Aztec Soccer
· Stars of Mass
· Scorpions
PENNSYLVANIA
· FC Bucks
· PennFusion
STA is also a new NPL club in NJ for 2013-14 season.
What is the ASL league then?
The WCUSC Predators Teams (U13-U18) will compete in the NE NPL since they are part of Penn Fusion
ASL - think ECNL - just a different league with different clubs
These clubs all have the same visions.
So at u12 enjoy playing these teams from these clubs - because their A teams will be gone at u13.
I think EDP is club based..16 core clubs according to EDP website
Funny , but close. Region 1 includes VA. Virginia top league is VCCL. Club based league. VCCL is very respected and sought after by Mid-Atlantic and NC schools.
Some clubs in VA have A team play VCCL and B team play ECNL in VA and now in MD
VCCL has expanded to Maryland recently, even though the V in VCCL stand for Viriginia. The Original VCCL model(now VCCL South)
is the bases of ecnl.
National League is top LEAGUE in country with just a couple teams in each Region qualifying to play tournament style.The best of the best in the country play National League(NL).
It can be said that the best NL teams(6)and top (2) ecnl nationally should make league of their own.
VA in the house. Nice - it's good to know we have VA, PA, NY & NJ on this board.
Do you think VCCL will ever join the NPL?
Are teams leaving WAGS for VCCL?
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Clubs and the number of Girl teams they have in EDP NPL Flights.
Do you guys think EDP going to adopt NPL flights and Premier league flights?
5 - FSA FCU
5 - Manhattan SC
5 - Smithtown Kickers SC
5 - South Jersey Elite Barons
4 - Delaware Rush
4 - TSF Academy
3 - NJ Wildcats
3 - Jersey United
PDA Dragons daddy coach dragging out the try-out process again - make a decision already!
Do you know soccer or not??? WTF?
Dragons have been decided I guess you didn't make it. Good luck with field hockey!
Daddy's kid sleeping over your house much?
At the back end of that roster you have slightly above average town players being protected by this schlub. It's why you can't win a darn game!
"Dragons have been decided I guess you didn't make it. Good luck with field hockey!"
You are a cruel dysfunctional misfit Miss u know who. Under the protection of your friend DN - 5 years is long time to be that bad.
Remember this: Everyone on this team can admit and know that your daughter's place on this team is not earned and never has been. Your hometown team has players better and parents nicer. You are cruel and I am sorry to have met you and feel sorry the PDA allows you to be a part of this team.
"I think he/she was defending clubs, not attacking them
April 30, 2013 at 10:36 AM"
Think you might want to read it again..
"With that said you must be a PDA parent since most of you are not human. You must be a Dragon parent hoping that the top kids from these teams come and play for you to end your miserable life.
This person asks others to look in the mirror?
"Dragons have been decided I guess you didn't make it. Good luck with field hockey!"
The whole lot of you - Dragons, parents, managers and coaches - are a sad dysfunctional very very mean bunch.
Just curious, any new players on either PDA team?
"" "Dragons have been decided I guess you didn't make it. Good luck with field hockey!"
The whole lot of you - Dragons, parents, managers and coaches - are a sad dysfunctional very very mean bunch. ""
Nothing is sadder than a comfortable middle of the pack Dragon parent talking crap.
This site has had its sad moments, but nothing overall has been worse then PDA Dragons drama. Mike O'neil should surgically remove you, then radiate any memory of this sad bunch.
"Just curious, any new players on either PDA team?"
If your asking about a particular player who has been protected by the coach for years? One whose parent is very involved? If you mean you could have used a blindfold to upgrade the roster at tryouts and been successful but Coach D could not pull the trigger and make the team better because their kids hang out, sleep over, etc. That what you are wondering about?
"If your asking about a particular player who has been protected by the coach for years? One whose parent is very involved? If you mean you could have used a blindfold to upgrade the roster at tryouts and been successful but Coach D could not pull the trigger and make the team better because their kids hang out, sleep over, etc. That what you are wondering about?"
No my question was about NEW players, not existing...
I'm not looking for names, because they probably wouldn't mean anything to me anyway, but does anyone know any current u11 teams that had players make the u12 odp list? They only show tryout numbers on the website. Just curious which teams may be represented.
"I'm not looking for names, because they probably wouldn't mean anything to me anyway, but does anyone know any current u11 teams that had players make the u12 odp list? They only show tryout numbers on the website. Just curious which teams may be represented."
You must asking about NJ, right? Because in PA, at least for the Delco/Chesco group, about half the 2001 kids are U11s (i.e. born after August 1, 2001), which I think is unusually high as it goes against the birth month affect.
In Nj try-outs you could see a big difference between the u11 2001 and the u12 2001. Having said that i do know of a couple of very good u11's that made the roster.
Yes, I was asking specifically about NJ, but if anyone wants to chime in about any girls on any u11 clubs in any region 1 states they know of, go ahead.
May 1, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Which team(s)?
No new girls for PDA. Tryouts had too many conflicts with other stuff for the really good players to come. Maybe 17 at tryouts the first day, but they seem to be happy with the existing group they already have.
You mean the Storm?
You can't mean the Dragons...
U12 will go stale without any new blood...
Interesting that the better players are not coming down.
I assume next year is the big year for players to change teams.
pda Daddy coach not coaching Dragons in FALL.
Apparently the mishaps at Jefferson Cup when he was late Friday night and then went out Friday night, and bolted on the team Saturday and left. Other issues too with some parents.
"USYSA - is split into 4 regions (NY,NJ, PA and 5 other states are in Region 1). R1 has a Premier league (top Division) and Colonial league (division b). Teams can qualify for nationals from the Premier League
NPL - National premier leagues - currently has 18 member leagues from all across the United States. The Champions of each of these leagues qualify for the NPL Champions Cup.
ECNL - is a league with 60+ clubs from across the USA - each club puts a team in u14/u15/u16/u17/u18 It's the closest thing the girls have to a DA (US Soccer Development Academy).
These leagues are all regional/national leagues. True "travel" leagues."
Thanks. So the Regional Leagues are for USYSA teams, correct? Not USCS team.
So, what are the requirements to geting into the USYSA Regional Leagues? Do the winners of local leagues, like PAGS in PA, get invited?
And NPL is for USCS teams.
And ECNL is only for those clubs that are invited to join. But how can, for example, Penn Fusion, play in both NPL and ECNL? Is the NPL really for the West Chester teams (which are essentially the Penn Fusion B teams at U13 and above)?
Dragons didn't play in Jefferson Cup?
Don't worry guys you will all miss the Storm and Dragons, Lady Falcons and Jaguars when they go ECNL and NE NPL.
Yes the NE NPL will be for all the ECNL B teams when they get to that age.
Hey VA - I did a little research on the VCCL - 4 of the Clubs are ECNL - Do you think they will breakaway from VCCL or do you think VCCL will become another NPL?
No invites your coach just sends an app and they will either accept it or not. I would imagine all the Matchfit, PDA and FC Bucks teams will no longer play R1 - so the door will be open to some new teams
ECNL will be the A teams (Storm, Lady falcons) and North East NPL will be the B teams (Dragons/Ajax), Lady Jaguars/NJX) for the clubs in both leagues.
Yes, the Westchester teams are leaving PAGS for NPL.
Is PAGS becoming another JAGS, it looks like none of the teams play in the Spring - could be one of the reasons these teams are leaving and joining NPL at least they play 20+ games over a full season and you know who you are playing as far as comp goes.
Hey PA - what do you know about FC Bucks? Seems like a good place, no knock on any other club, but they play regional and are also in the ECNL.
In PA, the 2001 (aka U12) ODP pool is quite large, with about 125 kids divided into five team locations: Lancaster/Harrisburg;
Delaware County/Chester County;
Allentown/Reading;
Philadelphia/Bucks County; and Williamsport/Lewistown (although strangely, the Williamsport/Lewistown group has disappeared from the website).
My kid plays in the Delco/Chesco group, which seems to be a pretty deep group, based solely on the number of teams in those two counties. The group has a heavy dose of WCUSC players (9? 10?), and then about three players each from FC Europa, Spirit United, Lower Merion, Nether Providence, and Westmont. There are also three girls from what I would characterize as town teams. These 27 girls (24 field players, 3 keepers) are split pretty evenly between U11s and U12s. One of the town girls is actually a U10.
In a few weeks, taking into account all the training sessions, all 125 PA girls will be ranked into A, B, C, D, and E teams formed to participate in a tournament in NC. Each team will comprise 10 field players and 2 keepers, meaning only 60 girls will be invited to make the trip to NC. Best ten field players will be on A team, next ten on B team, etc.
The team locations have been training every two weeks for a couple months now. Over winter break, there was also an initial training session with all 125 girls, wherein they seemed to place the girls into three ability-based pools. There will be another "all 125" session on May 19, and they will announce the list of 60 shortly thereafter. The A,B,C,D, and E teams will each get one practice as a team before going to NC in June.
I don't know how public this list will be, but it would be interesting to see how the PA clubs are represented on this final list of the top 60 players.
All of this being said, they don't always get ODP right. I know of at least 4 or 5 very strong players who did not make the Delco/Chesco group. And about the same number who made it, but probably should not have.
"Hey PA - what do you know about FC Bucks? Seems like a good place, no knock on any other club, but they play regional and are also in the ECNL."
Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about FC Bucks. I know much more about Penn Fusion and FC Continental. But based on reputation, FC Bucks is well thought of. PF and FC Con are geographically so close that there is bound to be some friction between the two. The departure of Spirit United from PF to create FC Con (with FC Delco) only exacerbates this. FC Bucks seems to play good soccer and be above the fray. With feeders from YMS and CRUSA, they should always have talent to draw from that is not easily poached away by other ECNL teams due to geopgraphy.
12:20 That's a good one. "Too many conflicts for the really good players." Maybe the parents didn't want to spend their weekends with a big bunch of intolerable douchebags. Or there are other programs available that are just as good as PDA.
Regarding Spring PAGS, you're right, no one is playing spring PAGS anymore. From U9-U11, in the spring, teams will play in state cups (there are both A and B levels of cups so less talented teams can also get three guaranteed games) and also do two or three tournaments. Which seems to be a decent amount of soccer and also leaves some time for lax or softball.
Adding 5 spring PAGS games against uneven competition is just too much soccer for many parents. And of course it is a vicious circle with less and less Fall D1 teams playing Spring PAGS, resulting in less and less Fall D2 teams playing, etc, etc.
1:05- " Maybe the parents didn't want to spend their weekends with a big bunch of intolerable douchebags"
Yeah, they should spend sometime with someone classy like you!
So at u-11 is it pre-ecnl or jr-ecnl,
At u-15 a club only has one ecnl team. 22-28 girls on roster usually, but is allowed to have up to 30 rostered players. Hmmmm...
So with all these new ecnl clubs, how many girls are really going to play in games. Be lots and lots of very good players on the roster after the first 11 starters. From seeing what is happening nationally with ecnl, lots of players jump off ecnl at u-16 and 17 because of playing time.
Hmmmm.... again.
Just trying to play the whole tape through. Being involved with top level and the best in youth soccer, ecnl is a good place for starters and even some subs on a great team(top 1-5) in country.
Generally I am not interested in any subs. I look for top 3 or 4 players on a team because of leadership they bring to next level.Already have lots of followers and practice bodies.
Personally, I like top 10 teams and the top 3 or 4 players on them regardless of their league. I want players that play in games and can play the whole game effectively.
"pda Daddy coach not coaching Dragons in FALL.
Apparently the mishaps at Jefferson Cup when he was late Friday night and then went out Friday night, and bolted on the team Saturday and left. Other issues too with some parents."
DN is a jerk. His fake smile after games makes people want to throw up in their mouth.
His smirk is a lot worse when he fills in to coach the Storm and a certain player all of a sudden play 50 minutes!
I find it hard to believe that a coach (who is a Dad to a player) would not do what is best for the team especially at an academy level.
"I find it hard to believe that a coach (who is a Dad to a player) would not do what is best for the team especially at an academy level."
Recently he filled in for Storm. Changed the starting line-up, played his daughter 30 MORE minutes than she had played in every previous game of the season.
It was "hard to watch or believe" for that matter. Many parents WERE NOT HAPPY.
4:58 at u15 think of North East NPL as a reserve league for the ECNL clubs - all top leagues have this. So you will have 18 girls playing in ECNL and the other 12 + a few that didn't get many minutes playing in NE NPL or ECNL B if you like.
There will be playing time for all the girls on the rosters plus the quality training.
When you say "So with all the new ecnl clubs" are you saying the 3 they added for next year was a lot? Only MatchFit was added in the NY/NJ area.
ECNL has 60+ clubs across the country - that is a very small amount - so yes if you plan to have all the best girls in an area you will need playing options for everyone. I think think the NE NPL fills that void and will take away the PDA, Matchfit and all other ECNL B teams that play R1 soccer. Opening spots for new teams from smaller clubs to play R1 - what that does to R1 remains to be seen.
It also gives the ECNL B teams a chance to play for a National Title. Don't forget NE NPL is just a league with 11 teams playing each other 20 times to crown a champion and send them to the NPL Champions Cup. It has nothing to do with NYCSL or EDP who will send their own Champions.
Honestly - if ECNL didn't get the grades because of playing time concerns, I think the NorthEast division solved their problem by joining the NE NPL.
I like leagues like ECNL, NPL, ASL, R1 and Super Y in puts a clear picture out there - Play regional/national soccer if you like - In theory this should attract the kids that want to play high level soccer.
Of Course the wildcard is the Fees not everyone has deep wallets.
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Recently he filled in for Storm. Changed the starting line-up, played his daughter 30 MORE minutes than she had played in every previous game of the season.
WHAT???? A coach changed the lineup? That is ridiculous. You should go to the president of your club and demand your money back???
Storm parents, I was shocked at how quiet you guys have been out here. I was beginning to think you changed your ways.
Storm parents are out here. Dragons are an embarrassment to PDA on and off the field.
Not looking to start a flame war, but in this current season of tryouts I've been reading some of the PDA posts and the thought occurred to me...
Assuming costs, quality of training, quality of competition, and distance to practices were equal, wouldn't it be better to play for the A team at a non-ECNL club than to play for the B team at PDA?
I mean, look at all the unnecessary stress there is in being on that B team because of the constant comparisons to the A team. Worries that the training level is the same, even though cost is the same. The constant constant pressure on your kid to always be "on" so that the A team coach will be impressed and finally realize they are better than the worst player on the A roster.
But does that call up ever come? Roster expansion (from 8v8 to 11v11 rosters) has come and gone. The only way the roster changes is new stars coming to the club and pushing down current A team players. No one ever moves up.
And taking this into account, if the goal is to make the A team, aren't you better off tearing it up at some other club for a couple years and then returning to tryout for the A team when you are the bright shiney new penny? As opposed to being a tarnished B team penny right now?
At my daughter's club they have three teams in this age group, and had an additional 20 new kids show up at tryouts. There were no B team players getting a look with the A team. Only new kids were getting a look. And, yes, a couple of them will be offered spots meaning a couple A team players will be moving down.
Now, we are in PA, so at least the B team players have the motivation to get on the A team next year when the rosters expand for 11v11, but that is not the case in NJ.
Now, certainly some of you may say that your daughter plays for fun and making the A team is not a goal. Fine. I respect that. But if the goal is "just fun, please" then why put her in a B team environment wherein so much of the energy is wasted on wondering what is going on with the A team and who got to practice with the A team and "hey, the A team coach is training us tonight, wonder if he's looking for someone to move up", and A team, A team, A team.
And, of course you have to deal with the idiot A team parents who pity the B team. Why deal with that if you have other options?
All of this is independent of whatever B team coach issues PDA may have. Let's set that aside. Why choose an ECNL B team when a non-ECNL A team is available? Ego? Because hope springs eternal? Because even though the hypo assumes costs, quality of training, quality of competition, and distance to practices are equal, that actually never ever happens so it is a stupid hypo?
Just curious. About the only decent answer I can come up with is "my daughter's friends also play on the B team".
I'm sure kids on the so called "b" team would love to move up. But it's more the parents that want it. Question for parents is it better to play 50-60 minutes on so called "b" team than 10-15 minutes on "A" team?
I think the misconception is that all B team players aspire to be on the A team.
""my daughter's friends also play on the B team" is definately a valid reason. My daughter plays on a B team because our town team didn't have a good program.
I like the way her current team trains. To me 90% of soccer is in the training. The games and tournaments are fun but not the main reason we are there.
I am not looking at ECNL or D1 scholarships. I want her to learn the right way in a positive environment. I am hoping she has a successful High School soccer career. Her college decision will be based on academics.
May 2, 2013 at 12:14 PM- Thats a great point.
Another misonception is that (A) team and (B) team parents cant get along, cant pull for one another....
B team is just that. B team no matter how anyone else calls it. Still not the A team, but the 2 nd team. The team that may get the honor to practice with the A team. Practice bodies. Coach gets to collect extra money for having a B team, and A team parents are nice nice to B team because without the B team(2nd team ) fees would go up(double) coach gets to earn more money and sometimes have a parent sub coach for B team because coach(S) are with A team.
Hey college coach, come see me on the B team. Colleges know what is the A team and B, C teams. He is already watching the A team, knows the starting players on the A team.
Not good enough to even be a non-playing roster player(15th,16th etc..) on the A team, but I will give you a look anyway with my short valuable time.
"Without the B team fees would double"
Please - just stop this nonsense.
B teams cost. League fees, referee fees, tournament fees.
Are they not using additional trainers, given the extra team? Oh, they are? Then add training fees.
B team money going to pay A team fees is a stupid thought. So just please - stop.
May 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM- Thats exactly right.
We root for the A team, A team parents come to the B team games to root for them as well.
I understand the misconception that its a A vs B mentality. That has not been my experience. Thats not to say it doesn't exist with a few. Unfortunately, clubs can't ask for parents to take a psych test before picking teams.
Why play for ECNL B when you can play for non ENCL A.
What's the end game?
Your kid moving up the soccer pyramid?
or
playing time and looking like a star?
My only question is when to start looking at these ECNL clubs?
u12, u13 or u14.
Yes, I am a fan.
We are about an hour away from MatchFit, PDA and FC Bucks so just trying to see when the right time to look is.
In my opinion -
if your Clubs A team plays ECNL
and their B team plays NPL or R1 - then that's the club to play for if your kid wants soccer to be part of their life as they get older.
The B teams playing in NPL and R1 will have the same exposure as the strong non ECNL A teams.
To me it's one in the same.
B TEAM EQUALS = $$$$$$
what's in your wallet?
I have to laugh, my daughter plays on A team.
"B TEAM EQUALS = $$$$$$
what's in your wallet?
I have to laugh, my daughter plays on A team."
You don't have to laugh. You could be a decent human being instead.
1:51
Why he's to cool for that.
He is laughing all way the to college scholarship paid for and paved by B teams.
How the rich get richer, get others to pay.
Just want to thank all the B team parents and especially the C team parents in advance. We do appreciate you and maybe you kid can play a few minutes with us in a scrimmage or two.
So your kid can play soccer better than most others.
You have arrived.
The funny thing is that you keep posting the same thing B and C team parents keep paying for my kid to play more games.
So why do you want that to stop? Chill - enjoy life and let people spend money the way they want.
Doesn't the same thing happen in College - don't we pay our kids tuition so the football and basketball athletes can to get a free ride?
It is just someone trying to stir up trouble. They smell (bad) blood in the water so they are trying to exploit it.
Where my daughter plays, they have many different teams (boys, girls, U8 through U18) and some A and B teams in the same age groups. Each team pays into the club for fields, maintenance etc., but each team pays the dues to play in their own tournaments, league fees and training fees. The so called 'B teams' just add to the revenue supportting the ENTIRE club, not supporting the 'A teams'. All the teams use the fields.
4:02 This is been going on forever and will never stop.
Their kid is great and rest are not.
Not all my fees go to club and A team. We have to pay extra for our tournaments and travel fees for just our coaches not the A team coaches.
Only small portion goes to A team, even if they practice at the better field and better times. We have adjusted and it works just fine now.
where is the pda Daddy coach going?
Bolting on the team yet again or being escorted out? Probably should change the name too. Dragons to The Puff Puffs.
For all the dragon parents complaining on this blog. Why don't you all just leave. As a club we don't need all your negative comments. All the coach's are top notch maybe you need to take off your blinders and realize where you kids are compared to others at the club.
WC coach is a Dad coach and his team is a legit team.
Please, top notch coaches what a joke. Keep smoking the PDA crack dude. Daddy coaches are NOT top notch. You dont need to move the Storm out of U11 play to hide them from NJX, Crush and Rage if your top notch. PDA is stretched thin and most of you parents are elitest A-Holes that think you guys rock. Come U-14/U-15 half of your superstars will be replaced by kids that develop better in the so called inferior clubs. What needs to happen, is PDA parents vs. all the other teams parents in a parents vs. parents match on the pitch. Lets see how you D BAGS play the wonderful game of Futbol. Put your money/gold bars where your big mouths are, lets throw down you puss bags. Anytime/Anywhere PDA parents arrange a parents tournament so you can get the ball smashed in yo pie holes!
Tryout season is rough.... Our teams tryouts were packed.
B team may be on the horizon for my kid so I wonder what to do based on all the negativity towards B teams.
Our club treats our b teams very fairly but what should my next move be. Our team are good but I'm not sure where my kid fits now.
"What needs to happen, is PDA parents vs. all the other teams parents in a parents vs. parents match on the pitch. Lets see how you D BAGS play the wonderful game of Futbol. Put your money/gold bars where your big mouths are, lets throw down you puss bags. Anytime/Anywhere PDA parents arrange a parents tournament so you can get the ball smashed in yo pie holes!"
Not to be funny but PDA Storm has like 4 moms who played Division I soccer. They got you there too!
"WC coach is a Dad coach and his team is a legit team."
Yeah but he isn't a world class douche like the daddy pda coach is. Don't believe he's leaving that 15 to 20 k he makes at PDA pays for his beer!
"All the coach's are top notch maybe you need to take off your blinders and realize where you kids are compared to others at the club."
Explain the Dragon's coach's goal scoring strategy that he has come up with in either fall & spring games. Has he tried to make drastic changes? Doesn't the fastest girl on the team play defense 100% of time? Don't you have have strikers starting who were town teamers last year? Hasn't he kept slow-footed unskilled kids on the team because his kids are their friends?
Yes to all if you are honest. The guy is clueless. Top notch? No way. Why doesn't the team get better? Where are the signs of improvement? How many have developed enough to make Storm?
He is offensively retarded as soccer coach, period.
Didnt you know - ex collegiate players never have kids
Men/women that get coaching licenses never have kids.
So a "daddy coach" could never be qualified.
OY!
"OY!"
Is that you on this board? You think your guy has done anything for your daughter in terms of getting her a look with Storm? I happen to know he has told coach m that she's not Storm level. he is not your friend or your daughter's supporter.
Disgruntled Dragon parent- Did you bring your daughter back to PDA for tryouts?
"Disgruntled Dragon parent- Did you bring your daughter back to PDA for tryouts?"
Yes. Of course it's still better than like playing up Hunderton United Soccer Club where fields only open April 8th or something like that. It's just people would prefer a coach who is not a Dad. It is that simple
B and C teams supporting the A team is not true. In our club all teams in the same age group train the same days and time.
In fact, I think our B and C teams played more tournaments than the A team this season.
"It's just people would prefer a coach who is not a Dad. It is that simple."
I can agree with that, but I for one approach each player as an equal. In fact, I'm harder on my daughter because I am her coach.
But I've seen several MOSA teams that have a "dad coach" who not only favors his kid, but holds back team development. And 9 times out of 10, it's out of fear that the teams skill level will surpass that of his child.
On the flipside, you probably don't find to many dad coaches in the so called "academy programs" because their motivation is usually $$$$.
B team is just that B team- 2nd team not the first or best team.
It is ok just to be on B, C team, but please be quite because B TEAM PARENTS HAVE NO SAY. NO ONE CARES.
Spend her whole youth soccer time chasing the A team. They will even tease you with, a little more paid training by ___ and we might move her up to A team. and/or how about dressing for our scrimmage next week.Or guest playing in tournament where she gets 10 token minutes.
A team or bust
How it works: "A" team peruses other players from good teams to come over to A team. Once on A team the other player become A solid contributor or moved down to B team for "a little more development". A team always looking for IMPACT players to improve team. B team player moved up to the 17 th spot is for money only.
It is BUSINESS
"B team is just that B team- 2nd team not the first or best team"
WOW, Ricky Bobby is a fan of our little blog. Shake and Bake!!!
Do not know many fathers that would put their little daughter on a B team
for her, but only for himself.
At the end of day and youth soccer if she plays through u-15,u-16, she always played on the second rate B team and was not good for enough for DADDY to make A team.
Girls need self-esteem.
May 3, 2013 at 8:43 AM- I appreciate the honest response.
Do you expect your club to switch coaches because of some parents preference? If they did, the club would lose all credibility. It would speak volumes if the unhappy parents didn't return for tryouts. That does not appear to be the case.
I strongly disagree with personal attacks and especially attacks against any players in this blog. You can say freedom of speech, but I think you must be putting your child at a disadvantage. I am assuming the coaches and parents know who you are. Have you talked to the coach directly?
If you get a new coach, they will find out quickly about you. You might not care, but your daughter might pay the price.
There are a lot of good teams in that area that play at high levels. I hope for your daughters sake you are exploring other clubs as well.
Thanks again for your honest response.
Daddy coaches can not be effect as top level coaches. It is bad, very bad judgement by the club to even expose the Daddy coach thing. Even if he is a great coach, because his daughter plays will always be subject to criticism. Why even do it?
If he is a good coach and wants to coach, the club should allow him to follow his passion at an age group two years either way.
Politics of Girls youth soccer and the business side of youth soccer is baffling even before the poison of a Daddy coach.
No Daddy coaches at top clubs.
Just wait until u-14 when colleges can only communicate through coaches.
Why aren't these parents proactive???? This is the one time of the year you have any control over your daughters situation.
IF your daughter plays for a team you don't like, leave. There are a lot of good clubs in the state. Do some research and ask around.
You wouldn't bring your car to a mechanic you didn't like or trust,,,, right?
yeah ?
I wouldn't go to the B doctor either for surgery.
The C team doctor is cheaper. Might allow him to clean the stitches that the A team doctor put in.
Lets flip the topic, for a second. We debate clubs, teams, and coaches to nausea . How would you feel if a parent from your team came out here and slammed the team, coach, players and parents?
Maybe I'm the idiot.
We brought our daughter to tryouts last year - she made 3 teams - she picked one and I had to tell the other 2 sorry but we picked another team. That was very hard for me to do - the Coaches were great all had the paperwork and the track record- loved the way they ran their team's practice - the girls made my daughter feel at home - it wasn't easy to say my daughter will not be playing for your team.
looking back - I wonder if we picked the right team- my daughter's confidence got killed. It's been a struggle to get it back for her.
So regardless of what happens it's great to see her playing and trusting her skills again instead of being scared to make a mistake.
Is it wrong to be reactive rather than proactive when it comes to your daughter playing soccer - in regards to which club. Since the Club/Team won't think twice when it comes to giving your kid her walking papers.
I would rather be told - your kid didn't make the team or we are moving her to the B team before we start looking for another club/team.
Like I said I'm the idiot - I know
I'm okay with people slamming their team on this board.
My only problem is that you don't know who's slamming and what the motive is.
If a coach or a team has issues - that I'm looking at - i would want to know about those issues before i give out 2k - wouldn't you?
2k? try 3k plus when paying all the extras that just show-up. That tournament was not included or these extra practices for the top tournament coming up or state cup are not included. Hey , I got a lighted field for Wednesday, only another $20 a player, bring cash.
A team needs new warm-ups etc.. oh sorry, club fees went up to pay for the great success of A team.
11:12
Just too nice to be in top level youth girls soccer. You will be prayed upon by the savages of parents wanting more and more.
Your stay here will be short , unless you toughen up.Get mad or get sad, it is a cruel world we live in in youth girls soccer. You are probably happy on a B team and do not mind when fees go up to pay for the administrators etc..
If a coach or a team has issues - that I'm looking at - i would want to know about those issues before i give out 2k - wouldn't you?
Of course, but I wouldn't use this blog as the barometer. In fact, its actually a way to keep people from trying out for my team if I felt my daughter was on the cut line.
I could very easily post a message claiming to be from a team and trash the coach for playing time, starters. etc. EVERY team has parents that discuss this.
I would hope you would go to a team practice or see them play a game,. All of these are much more accurate than a parent with a personal grudge for the coach.
Do you think a child should be removed from a team because their parents embarrass the team? It looks like the Copa team, silenced their early critic.
11:12 AM- I agree. I hope your team would do an honest evaluation at some point during the year. I also think the coach should be honest with the oarents if their child is in jeopardy of being cut.
Some of this falls on the parents as well. You have to be honest with yourself. What is her playing time, how does she perform and most importantly, is she happy there?
Dudes.
Big Business. No place for honesty.
All about the money. Just look at all the B , C TEAMS.
NEW: "A" teams are now bringing in development players just for practice. Roster 18 players and have 4 development players. Easy way to get money without disappointing with absolutely zero playing time.
Clubs and coaches are smarter then us.
Did anyone go to NJ Force tryouts for this age group? Did you know that the organization has brought on a coach that was suspended from NJ youth soccer for 6 months, is that really where you would want your child to play. They should do a better job of screening their staff.....
Daddy Dragon coach home agonizing over wether to actually make the team better by eliminating bottom third players with better athletes OR keep some around for another year because they hang out wis daughter, help manage the team, help keep his message out there etc. JUST make a decision already. Pick the best players not babysitters who let your kid sleep over!
Storm parents bet is that he's dragging it out to make like it was such a tough decision but he'll just elect to keep his slow pokes on board.
"Did anyone go to NJ Force tryouts for this age group? Did you know that the organization has brought on a coach that was suspended from NJ youth soccer for 6 months, is that really where you would want your child to play. They should do a better job of screening their staff....."
My .02...
The club reeks of desperation. I hear nothing but bad stuff from current and former families involved with them.
I know at last weeks tryout in Howell, there was "some confusion" about which age group they were supposed to be looking at.
Lulz were had...
Has Storm picked their U12 team already for next year?
NJ Force- Heres the problem with this blog. Is this true or is this from competing clubs in the area trying to keep talent away?
Daddy pda Dragon coach is not coaching next season from what has been reported. Why would pda keep him with everything that happened? and why would anyone want to play there know the situation with pda and Daddy coach of Dragons?
Looks like MF has pda scared and desperate.
"Daddy pda Dragon coach is not coaching next season from what has been reported."
If it's true, all the b teamers can cheer! But it has been some of the best fodder on this board.
I doubt it though. When he helps with Storm, he is a political cockroach with a way of playing your daughter 20 minutes while his plays 50 and then smiling afterwards as if in fact she deserved those minutes.
"Didnt you know - ex collegiate players never have kids
Men/women that get coaching licenses never have kids.
So a "daddy coach" could never be qualified.
OY!"
BTW, You just gave yourself up as the obvious board poster and defender of coach D. Poorly played since Coach M does not want any blog posters added to his roster and now anyone that is on here knows you are on here.
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No Daddy coach at Toms River and cheaper then pda.
So how DI MOMS on Dragons. Heck they should coaching instead.
No Daddy coach at Toms River and cheaper then pda.
Stop, begging. If people want to play for you they will find you. If anybody goes, make sure to bring plenty of bottled water.
B team players should pay less. All B team players have to pay , while at least two A team players play for free. why do players play for free or for service hours? Parents have to put in so many service hours, but they rarely do.
I think everyone is assuming that all "B" teams are the same at each club. Flawed thinking. At PDA you often have a lot of excellent players on the "B" team that could be an "A" teamer elsewhere. And as everyone knows, PDAs B teamers get recruited to the college ranks just like the "A" teamers.
Take a look at where this year's girls are going:
http://www.pdasoccer.org/home/701032.html
Judging from the picture, looks like a lot of the "B" team was recruited. Georgetown and UPenn? Quite impressive!!!
Let's hear from the other club posters. Where are your aged-out girls going (A and B teams)? Links to the club announcement?
"Judging from the picture, looks like a lot of the "B" team was recruited. Georgetown and UPenn? Quite impressive!!!
Let's hear from the other club posters. Where are your aged-out girls going (A and B teams)? Links to the club announcement?"
You retard - that's all one roster up to like 30 girls. There was no B-team at PDA for 17's/18's.
30 girls on one team? Some of the gals have to be "B" teamers if they aren't starting. Do you have to have 2 official teams to have an A and B team?
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