It is human nature to attack what one covets to make it seem less valuable.
Just caught this but this is not the official post, maybe? Let the games begin!Girls U14U14 PLATINUMBracket A Bracket BNORTH ROCKLAND STING ROWDIES (NYE)FC COPA ACADEMY MILAN (NJ)CHANTILLY SC CHAN 99 ELITE (VA)SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC HOTSPUR (NYE)MANHATTAN SC MANHATTAN SANTOS (NYE)ABGC ANNANDALE UNITED FC 99G (VA)TOMS RIVER FC EVERTON (NJ)NJ STALLIONS STAMPEDE (NJ)U14 ELITEBracket A Bracket BSOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '99 (NJ)ALLEYCATS 99/00 (NYE)NEFC SC UNITED U14 GIRLS (MA)NEW JERSEY RUSH 99 GIRLS BLUE (FKA HAMILTON WILDCATS WHITE) (NJ)NJSA 04 BULLDOGS YELLOW (NJ)CFC EXTREME ECNL (CT)BAYSIDE FC BOLTS 99/00 (RI)FREEHOLD SL CELTIC (NJ)
Attack it or buy it. How he gets it matters little. Either way he has your 14yr old in a bra posing for pictures. what If she came home from school and her gym teacher took the same pics. Would that be cool?
Covet? What a pompous a$$. Saw with my own eyes the girls posing in sports bras. It was more than uncorfrotable. We covet what you have. Lol. NOT. if you are cool with your daughter stripping to her sports bra for a summer tournament win, team picture, good for you! Covet, hmm. Good word. Did you use Thesaurus for that? if your kid is being paid to play, you best have the top team in the nation, as people should be flocking there??? What a moron. Many of the top 5 on the very good current teams, could come to strikers, and most likely start. Just like the above blogger stated, They choose not to. Lucky for you, we find the creeper, CREEPY!! You stay there though, keep smoking what's in your pipe, and thinking we are all "envious". Does he buy the panties also? If that happened on my kids middle school team, the coach is fired. Oh, wait, how do you fire the person who puts it all together, pays for everything, runs it, and has no one to answer to? YOU DON'T! Yeah any coach with any kind decorum would not let that happen under his watch. Gee what prudes we all must be. I'll keep coveting though, while You keep trying to legitimize it.
Methinks he doth protest too much
Nice to not have the same blah blah blah from the same few NJ teams and have some VA and PA teams getting in the mix. Wish the later was a better topic and hopefully that is just speculation and rumor and not truly accurate not that defamation is right either.
I haven't read anything posted that is rumor. Perhaps speculation on his motives. The bra info, pics, puppy and hug duck all spot on accurate. Should any of our club DOC or coaches exhibit such behavior they would be banned. If nothing else hopefully a Striker parent will stick their radar up. Protect their child. Phoenix?? With out parents? Alone with people who think its ok to take pics of girls in bras. People who answer to no one. Good luck.
Legal dictionary says:Defamation -An intentional false communication either written or spoken. So by definition this is not defamation since only true facts were given.
Do you photograph your child at the beach in her string bikini complete with maximizing push ups? Does she post the pictures on instagram? Women publicly run and compete in various sporting events all summer wearing sports bras. Wonder if during a sworn deposition the supposed hug ducker would would confirm the report?
No I do not photograph my daughter in a string bikini. She isn't allowed to wear one. 1 piece or tankini. I love that you asked thinking there is similarities between a parent taking a picture of their kid in a string bikini and a coach or non family member doing the same. Woman do compete in sports bras. Woman do a lot of things 14 yr old girls should not. But they are old enough to decide for themselves. 14 yr olds are not that is why they need protected. If you have people working for you why don't you approach one of them and throw them a sports bra. Ask her to put it on so you can take pics of her in it.
Any parent that thinks that that is ok is living in La La land. Is that the lesson in life that you are teaching your child? I try to teach my daughter modesty and that sexy is not stripping, and showing off your body. Get a clue. We criticize the fashion and modeling industry for taking 16 and 17 year old girls, dressing them like woman and posing them in provocative positions ...Saw it this summer, so how many 13 year olds are we talking about? Go ahead, defend it, and give examples that have nothing to do with soccer, etiquette, and the correct lessons to be teaching our young girls. we get it, speak up, they will just replace your kid with someone else, who's parents will be smiling a stupid toothy grin, whilst thinking, what am I doing here, that does not seem right. The kool aid can be very strong. You got it all over us stupid parents, Sorry, but 4,000? not enough for me to pimp out my daughter.No rumor! A direct quote from my daughter, after witnessing.. Is that kind of creepy? I'm thinking that was a little creepy. What if one of the girls was shy, or maybe a little overweight, and did not really want to do that? I would not have wanted to do that. Yeah, What if? What I said was, yeah it was inappropriate, because I could not say, they could have counted on their mom or dad to step in and help them....So call us envious, but there are many words that i can come up with for parents such as yourself, the nicest for print being, dimwit.
it's not about hating on the team or defamation. Whenever anything comes up about the Strikers, it brings out the chest thumping idiots telling us we covet what they have, we are envious, and that if only our daughters were good enough, that's where we would be. News Flash, our daughters are good enough, and we think the set up over there is odd, and choose not to get involved , we really are not envious, but curious as to what prompts such boorish behavior from parents.Another news flash, many of your daughters are not good enough either, and may be hanging on by a thread. He is always looking to upgrade with the enticement and LURE of everything being free. To each their own.
AMEN to the last 4 posters!
Obvious question- If so many of your daughters are so much better than the existing FC PA team why don't your daughters' teams regularly beat them?
My Mama says that haters are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.
Clearly because the current parents are all a bunch of pimps and FC PA is the devil.This is sarcasm, normally lost on those for whom it applies most.
Who can beat who is irrelevant. If you think this is about who is good then you are missing the point. Its about you entrusting your daughter to untrustworthy people. About your judgement cloudy by $$.
Here is a perspective from a coach, parent and player. When you commit to training/coaching a team of girls in these ranges 11-14, you are not just a coach. You see them 3,4,5 times per week. These ages for girls, are probably the most difficult and confusing time for them. They are growing into young women, all at different rates. This is the point where they start shaping their opinions about their bodies, boys, and frankly themselves. You teach them to respect themselves and others by example. You shape these opinions, because they get the message either consciously or subconsciously. They register the way that you treat them, your reactions to them, the way that you treat others, and the expectations that you set for them.We all want coaches to assist with our players when it comes to teaching, time management, good eating and rest habits, etc., but, you do not expect him/her to respect your daughters changing growing body? If this truly was a team picture and the coach watched, it could have been used as a coaching moment. Condoned or not by the parents, you are the leader and set the tone. A simple, girls you represent our club, and that is not the image we want to project, or even a simple, this is not the appropriate venue for that, would have taught a lot. A male coach allowing that to happen, with adolescent girls is irresponsible. If you can not accept this added responsibility to young girls, you should stick to boys or not coach at all.
Well , how about those Manhattan Brackets? .Sheesh I thought this was a porn site for a minute. How about back to soccer.
Who would of thought we would miss the days of bashing on "town" teams when they boast after a win or the arguing about teams with initials in their name and how much $ they spend.
Back to some soccer. Any Manhattan predicitions assuming those brackets above are accurate?My guesses are North Rockland and Manhattan in the finals in the platinum flight with North Rockland winning and in the elite flight South Jersey and NJSA in the finals with NJSA winning.
Yes. Another tournament with the same old teams. Blah blah blah.
When you get to this age its only certain teams that survive. I think they should all be commended for continuing to compete at this high level. Because this is the highest level right?
Why in thunder would a quote from Ali be deleted. Although not a big fan it was quite fitting.
Crickets......all that talk about the Strikers has this blog quiet as a library. What's up? All too ill to post? Tournaments coming up with predictions to be made. BSC vs Strikers in Phoenix final. BSC 2-0 over Stikers. Santos vs WC ECNL in Manhattan final. Santos in OT 2-1 over WC. Let the games begin.
Did anyone catch the interesting statistics from yesterday's national signing day? PDA listed 51 female athletes who signed from their club for the class of 2014. Setting aside discussion on how large their rosters actually are, if you go back and look at where these girls came from, 30 of them arrived at PDA at U16 or later. That means that more than half of the PDA signing class was developed somewhere other than PDA.
Where did you get this data from? Because when I look at the ECNL website player by player, only roughly 7 of the 25 players from the U18 were not there from U15 or earlier - coincides with the start of ECNL; I could be wrong but I think U14 was added in the last 2 years so no data beforehand. After looking quickly I'd say 4 came U16 (3 years with PDA), 2 U17 and 1 U18. Again this is rough. Now I doubt the U15's were there since U9 but 18 of 25 have been there for over 4 years. That's over 70%. Also it suggests that if only 18 play, they are doing something right if 7 possible non-players still signed. I assume that since they only started being more than one team 3 years ago, the other 26 players had to come from somewhere but could they have been cuts from the ECNL team?
Check the NPL team, which you can access from the ECNL website. Also, the website lists player teams for U18, back to U15. So if U15 is not listed for a player profile, they were playing somewhere other than PDA.
JU took a large group of Parsippany NPL when they folded in August '13 (to a roster of 24) - no chance of taking STA girls.
Except JU did already take the STA girls and they are playing with JU this winter. Roster now stands at 29.
Is there any movement of players from teams to ECNL teams? Heard an NJSA player went to a PA ECNL team. Any others?
This obviously happens but from what I've seen having a daughter playing in ECNL, you get more movement at U15 / 16 and 17. U14 is somewhat of a trial run. If your daughter plays on a ECNL team that is in last place or has no chance at "Champions League" you see players jump ship to other ECNL teams if it is a viable option.
i heard of another NJSA player that went to World Class so there's is a lot of movement. Most of the current Matchfit ECNL came from PDA with the exception of 5 0 6 player.
ECNL teams in general may be competitive. But not the ones from EPYSA. This makes it tough to buy the ECNL sales pitch when we have beat them pretty regularly in most age groups with a few exceptions.
That could be but it seems at least the next tier down from PDA level NJ kids are considering PA. It seems, like strikers, the ECNL teams are constantly evolving. Haven't seen Bucks for a long time.They beat PDA in the fall dont know if their play ups were playing or not.
Hi,Can anybody please explain to me the different leagues in NJ for u14G teams. What is the most competitive league? PDA? EDP? JAGS? NJSC? are there any other? thank you
5:12. Keep hating on EP. Except for the EP team with lowest record, both others right there competition wise. One in front of PDA??? No blow outs. BTW it's not EPYSA, ECNL teams are carded US club, so if you want to seem informed, at least just say EP. Apparently PDA had at least 4 O'Reilly girls in the fall? Maybe 4 Gunners will have to step up now and play spring ECNL when they sat in the fall ? Why hate ? Does it get your goat that a PA team is ahead of PDA in the rankings? Can you say TRANSPARENT???? Cut me a break. Bucks and PF will compete with any team in NJ including the Gunners, especially now that those very good players that were good enough to play up all of these years, go back to their real team this spring. Don't hate. When you spew crap and then people can go look at records and results, you look like an idiot. I don't know how ugly and petty a person must be, that it makes them feel better, to put others down, brag or boast. Yo mamma did not do her job, because you are ugly, bitter for some reason.
Wait - I am lost. Who's the pot and who's the kettle? Look in the mirror pal.
anybody know the accepted teams for the MAPS Spring Challenge this march 8-9? is your team participating?
What people are willing to say under the cover of annominity amazes me. It's usually a a good idea to ask yourself, would I say this if people knew who it was? If the answer is no, you probably should zip your This blog would be more civil, if people had to identify themselves, maybe we would get more soccer talk and insight as opposed to: my teams bettter than your team, nah, nah, nah na boo boo. I do react, when someone feels the need to have a nasty or snarky comment, even if I do not know the team at all. I have defended PDA,Toms River, SJ Elite, Strikers, etc, or whomever the flavor of the month is. Maybe if this blog that was not anonymous, we would get more soccer talk instead of school yard bullying. I'm sure it would not be nearly as successful, because seems most would rather hurl insults than talk coherently about a sport that most of you only know from watching your kids play. Your ugly comments, under the safety of annonimity say more about the person you are, then about any team you want to bash. Have a good day good luck to both NJ and PA teams at Jeff cup, let the spring season begin.
That's a lot of built up angst. Like you said its a bunch of anonymous parents talking smack - don't lose sleep over it.
Everyone get accepted to MAP Spring Cup, everyone. Way to much money to say no. If you need to know who's in, just look at the applied list, everyone will play in it.
Second Tier Academy got a beat down today by 5 of their ex players that went to JU in Futsal action.The guy they call the "coach"could not even congratulate his ex players, shows the type of maturity and class this organization has!
Does that mean JU beat JO?
Please, getting beat in futsal is nothing, you cannot judge a team by that type of win. See what happens on the field, good futsal players do not always good soccer players, all that dancing will get you tackled on the real pitch.
For real ? Futsal?Lets get some real soccer talk Since the movement of teams seems to be toward npl orn encl will pda shore get a good showing for tryouts...let me put it this way is it better to play on a so-so ecnl/npl team or a pda team like atheletica or the new shore tem because of the pda name?
Plenty of people will be thrilled to pay for just having the initials. That's the moneymaking ability that comes from the success. Most towners or rec players don't even know what ECNL or NPL are and would think all PDA is as good as the best. Easy to brag to the clueless about your daughter playing for PDA. The informed know better, but even some of those fall for the lie that you could be moved up later.
Exactly, well said. PDA needs to keep dangling the "Gunner" carrot in order to keep the monies rolling in. Come try out time, the disillusioned will be replaced by more clueless drones...
So its better to play on a mid level team like mercer magic or troutmant because they play npl ...than playing on a pda atheletica , matchfit holmdell or njsa grey because they dont play in npl?
PDA is no different than any other top level club. They might do a better job a expanding and or fielding multiple teams but the bottom line is all the same. What ever club your daughter plays for there is only enough (real) talent for one team. If its a town club than more than likely only enough talent for 1/2 a team. B,C, D teams are just that, not A team. There are no "great" B teams anywhere or they would be an "A" team. Kids are evaluated every year and placed accordingly. I will say based on what I have seen if your daughter did not make "A" team than in all likelihood she will never be on "A" team - at least at current club. That is not a knock on anyone's daughter but a reality of very competitive high level soccer. At this point most clubs are holding spots for a superstar that just moved into town or just left a high level team. Not holding it for B team player. At our club we have a number of B team players listed on our ECNL roster but none of them travel or play with us, but some do practice with us from time to time. Maybe next year a couple will make it to our sidelines. That would be nice because all work incredibly hard and I personally pull for them to get a shot.
Fyi no njsa grey for next year hope that narrows things down
Really. I read they also lost 2 top girls to world class and fusion pa , wonder whats going on there they seemed to be ranked pretty high
where are the NJSA Gray players going? what happened? This team was doing well!!
Why do d2 teams have success in Futsal??D1 coaches rarely if ever train for such a league or tournament. D2 coaches often do. By this I mean using a Futsal ball, practicing indirects etc. Also the smaller field makes player speed less of an advantage/disadvantage . Also d2 teams often have a couple a couple good players. Easy to pick who's going to play. D1 may split or take part of a team. Ending up with some of their weaker players. Especially since some of the better athletes may play Bball and skip indoor. Take a look at the past results of pa indoor state cup. Almost always won by a d2 or low d1 team.
What happened to u14 Westfield Premier? How many left the team this Winter?
Westfield lost 3
Futsal is for practicing foot skills. The top technical players practice it, even on their own. Go check out Tobin heath's videos.
Tobin Heath's videos are not Futsal. Box dribbling and Freestyle juggling are not Futsal. She is demonstrating her foot skills (arguably some of the best in the women's game). Futsal is a different animal altogether. There is a reason there are pro leagues for both sports and the participants at that level do not mix. Let your team play futsal all winter while our girls play soccer. First match in the spring, see who does better.
146 Do you know anything about soccer? Futsal is a great compliment to turf training that most teams in the Northeast participate in, so their players can improve on their foot skills, improve their agility and learn to make quick passes and improve one on one skills. I saw the Santos play in A Futsal tournament last winter and their was a direct correlation to their foots skills out door. You must be a parent from South Jersey that only trains the kids on kicking the ball 30 yards down the field and score on the occasional breakaway...have fun with new baby blue uniforms
i hear players are leaving EDP teams like NJSA04 Gray, Westfield, Freehold, etc. Where are these players going? There's only two ECNL teams in NJand handful NPL teams with stocked rosters NJSA04 Yellow NPL Parsippany NPLNJ Wildcats NPLSouth Jersey Barons NPLNJ Stampede NPLMatchfit NPLFC Copa NPLSTA NPLNJ Spartans NPL Spring tryouts are going to be interesting. The grass is not always greener on the other side. Do your research before you look. A lot of these teams have their core players and it will be very difficult to just walk in and start!!
EDP brackets posted. http://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?EventID=37317
They should have combined the best of 1st Division North and 1st Division Central and could have had a descent bracket instead of watering both of them down.
Does anyone know whats up with the 2000 ODP training in DE? They originally said all 110 or so players would be invited maybe minus the 25 who went to AZ. Now it looks like about 30 kids got cut from Buffalo? Any insights are appreciated. Is this even worthwhile or is there all kinds of bait and switches going on?
Can you fill me in on what you're talking about? ODP in De.? My duaghter is on the intial 2000 ODP squad and I didn't hear anything about De.? Where did you see this?
This is a region 1 event. The original huge pool was about 110 kids chosen from the 500 or so at the RI camp last July. They all went to Buffalo in December then 25 were chosen to go to AZ. The instruction given to the parents was that either everyone or at least those kids not invited to AZ would be invited to a spring training event originally was supposed to be at USTC in PA and now is at kitkwood DE in April. Now it comes to appear that all 25 from AZ invited to DE plus they cut about 30 kids from Buffalo. So around 80 or so were invited to DE.
Manhattan tournament schedule out
re:February 11, 2014 at 5:31 PMParsippany NOT NPL contender. u14NPL folded before Fall 2013 even began.
any idea who could win the fligts at the Manhattan kickoff?
I'll bite. North Rockland takes bracket A and Manhattan takes bracket B in the platinum flight with North Rockland winning the finals. In the elite flight South Jersey and NJSA in the finals with NJSA winning. Other thoughts?
If NJSA really lost their best players, will they be competitive?
That's NJSA Grey the B team that is allegedly losing a player or two though what team isnt. NJSA Yellow is playing in Manhattan
NJSA Yellow ( NPL ) did not lose their best player, lost a good player that did contribute to a PA team. Only 1 player! Very strong team that will not be effected by lose, I predict will be in the hunt @ Manhattan.
NJSA04 gray team is also playing in a lower bracket. What is going on with these two teams? Why are they leaving? It seems to be a successful program
The call of the ECNL
Njsa inability to get into encl and jeff cup has caused some rubbling ! parents of yellow girls want there girls playing in show cases and encl for obvisious reasons, parents of grey want ther girls at a minimum want there daughters playing npl unable to do both so like every other team girls are making moves. Next season only one team with the best players...... strike that .. best team based on ability,favortism,politics. You know like everywhere else
I hear NJSA is creating an orange team.Orange stands for " orange you spending enough money"
One could say the same to the parents of the PDA B, C, and new D team! Orange you paying too much....
You don't know what you are talking about. The DOC of PDA South has assured us parents that everything is fair between all U14 girls teams. He was very clear and concise, just like JJ always is! Clear as mud....please leave us floating happily on the river of Denial!
"Orange team" and "river of denial" classic and made me laugh, thanks!And I need to laugh because half our Bethesda team got stranded at the airport and will miss the PDT in AZ. Any PA Striker parents follow this blog? Did all your girls make it out? Or does the owner of that team charter a plane for you guys?
Strikers stuck in airport as of last night.
Well if they had the same problem we did (Baltimore / Washington) area there were no available flights to Phoenix until Sunday. Everything Friday and Saturday was booked from Richmond to Newark. A few got out Wednesday, Thursday was disaster and Friday seems to be ok (If you were already booked for a Friday flight). Heard an Illinois team in top flight had to cancel due to weather and they are now reshuffling brackets. Our team will add U13's which are down there as well.Thank goodness for global warming.
Sorry about double post….
Strikers were not stuck in the airport last night. They left this morning (as scheduled). Slight delay but they have landed safely in AZ.
EDP Tier 1 team. What are your thoughts???
I'll bite too Manhattan Kickoff: I think Stallions will win their bracket and FC Copa win their bracket. Stallions winning final.
Stallions Stampede moved to central EDP? International moved o 2 division? I wonder why
Bethesda and Penn Strikers lost their first games in AZ...
Strikers not stuck in airport? Sorry for the wrong info then. My daughter got a text with a selfie that said stuck in airport. It was from a midfielder on the Strikers. I assumed that meant they were stuck in airport.
Any body knows when the schedule for the NJ State Cup US Club will be posted?
Whatever happened to Delran Red Devils? They were a good team back in the day. Where did most of their players go PDA South?
They went to Real Magic. Only a few went to PDA South
Real Magic is the old Medford Magic, Real Force is the old Delran Devils team but made over. Delrans best players left for other teams. They are not a factor anymore since coach moved.
So, Manhattan is in two weeks? How are they gonna pull that off? What if it snows more ? Always thought it was a bad time for a tournament. Teams cant even get outside to scrimmage. Nuts.
Looks like R1 representation in Phoenix not as advertised. Bethesda and Strikers both 0-1-1. Heard 5 starters from Bethesda never made it out of snowbound Maryland. Strikers have full squad. What's their excuse? GS ranking doesn't mean much when you get out west. Most of those teams are content to play within their states and work on game instead of trying to accumulate "GS points".
All strikers and coaches left Friday morning just like the original itinerary outlined. Not sure what the text was, maybe someone left separate from the majority of the team. No excuses, bad tournament 0-2-1. Team was flat and you can't win top bracket if you are not at the top if your game. Competition Is just too good. More practice needed.
0 wins, 1 loss & 2 ties. Sorry I think I got it wrong in my first post.
It is not a bad tournament. It is reality, that your level!!!
Now that was kind of random. Obviously the poster was conceding that it was a bad tournament for the Striker team.
Heard a player was thrown out of Stampede by the coach because she was practicing/training with another team?
Bethesda Team in Phoenix only had 11 players. Missing their striker, 2 midfield players and outside backs. The tournament gave them 2 guest players for 2 games and they were not at the level of girls that were missing. Just bad luck not getting the whole team to AZ.
I'm not a Striker fan at all. Think it's a bad plan. But really. The poster conceded they didn't play we'll. we've all been there. Why make more of it then what it is.
Because every village has an idiot I guess. Some people can't help but bash. Strikers apparently have been training in a small indoor facility once a week. You can't expect any team to go to 85F and not gas out. I guess they should have been working harder pre trip but they got out of the tournament what they put into it. Not bashing but it's obvious. I'm not sure about the model. It's worked in the past but that was pre-ECNL. Now if you subscribe to the town teams (ecnl is just a bunch of Koolaid drinkers) then it's a great free team. If you subscribe to the ecnl, it's never going to be what it was because free no longer trumps ecnl. I don't think one is right and one is wrong but I am trending towards ecnl.
What team was the Stampede player practicing with? It's funny that the top academies/teams can bring in a whole team to replace an existng team but the minute one of their player decides to expand their horizons and shop around, they get cut????
Jeff Cup schedules out. Predictions? PDA may go 3 and out. If Santos can get past Charlotte they make final.
I thought ABGC parent posted they would be moved up? What happen. SJEB and Copa will both be 0-3. If they can manage a tie they should consider it a success.
Gotta love the hater (jealous) parents. If either teams gets a win their response will be "they got lucky." Didn't your elders ever teach you if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all?
Ino jealousy. Look at their records. We can debate all day most things. Their got soccer record speaks for itself and is undeniable. If they win I will be the first to congratulate them on here. They don't belong up there.
Well looking at the schedules of the jeff cup , I would say that the pda gunners will probably go thru to the final and ultimately win .They have been practicing very hard this winter and will be ready . Expect them to do well this spring
Hope whole Bethesda team makes it there. At least we don't have to fly to get there...
How many O'Reilly players will be rostered to Gunners at Jeff Cup? Without them, Gunners will be making their way back up 95 before lunch. At least you'll beat the Fredericksburg traffic mess that the finalists will get caught in.
How does PDA Atletica gets switched from the premier bracket to the super group four hours after the brackets are posted. Silly me I thought it was a blind draw
Silly man. It's NJ Cup, not NJ State Cup. Please go do your research, as you should not be posting if you do not know the difference. They would have applied for Super group or Premeir Group and being PDA, whatever level, they should be in Super Group. Premeir is for town teams and lower level. Pride applied to correct level this time around also, LOL.
Where did I say it was State Cup?
Hey 11:06, whats Premeir?
Pride applied to the correct group this time since they can pad their roster with Gunners, I predict they will take the NJ CUP.
State cup is blind draw, not US Club cup. So you either were confused as to the competition structure, or which cup it was. Needless to say, we would have a laugh if any PDA teams applied to the lower bracket, so it is not surprise it was corrected, which NJ state cup was unwilling to do for the Pride.
Hey, i don't know, you tell me. Super group is the top in this tournament. I do not consider teams in the Premier group, premier, sorry. Maybe not even some in Super Group either.
Not much competition until the quarterfinals. NJSA vs FC Copa will be a good game. Either FC Copa or PDA Pride will win the final.
Copa beat PDA before, they will do it again.
Copa narrowly beat njsa last time lucky goalIt doent happen again
Nice to see the d2 teams joining discussions!
Over 300 teams already registered for FC Delco tourny.
Only two weeks left to register for FC Delco tourny. Application deadline is March 3rd.
Will Gunners apply to FC Delco or will they just bump Pride players? Why those parents put up with it is beyond me, I guess there are many promises made to the B team.
PDA A,B,C or D team, as long as the initials are on their child's chest, It's all good.
The place to be Memorial Day weekend will be @ PDA. If you are attending Delco, good luck!
Typical PDA parent arrogance.
So at the manhattan tournament does pda atheletica show up with pride and gunner girls...didnt say anything wrong with it just wondering if that is what usally happens
Feb 16 12:30Looks like a few players looking for spots.
Hopefully they show up with the best girls / team possible, right?
Real force girls have been practicing with PDA all winter, just waiting on who gets the nod the jump ship for the spring.
PDA SHORE is a reality.
Who cares about PDA Shore. I wonder how many teams are willing to break up for rhe PDA empty promises.
Heard they were hiring the Bulldogs coach to be director of coaching and he was bringing some of his best girls over to combine with the present team. D team my eye. There will be some caring then.
So the Bulldogs and Toms River Everton will merge to form a super team. That makes sense but are they playing in NPL?They have enough to form two good quality teams. I would love to see these tryouts!!Too many egos and politics!!!
If bulldogs and Everton form a superteam they will surely bump PDA Pride out of NPL since Pride is mediocre at best.
Or even gunners!!
If the rumor about TR and the Bulldogs is true isn't it really case of empty promises from their staff to their former players? My guess is that they will be a really tough/good side. Maybe even top 3. But can we really call any of these groups 'teams' anymore?Let me be the first to wish those girls that are surely to be 'dropped' by their team good luck in finding a new team.
from what I hear there will be no oreilly girls on the roster fo r jeff cup . I think this will be a true test for pda gunners . I would bet they will do well .
Just sitting here wondering who PDA will approach next to be their new "E" team? Come on parents, get your checkbooks ready!
Are there any town teams left at this age? I heard Flemington kids are playing to match fit and Westfield has imploded due to parent fighting. Parsippany got gobbled up by MF and it looks like Tom's River is either going to become PDA sure or N.J.S.A. Did I miss anyone? Are these teams even playing in the spring?
Not sure your information is correct. Westfield and Greater Flemington have games scheduled for EDP this spring season. Those teams are intact as of today. To add to the story line, NJ Real' Force-delran has closed shop as of this weekend.
Westfield has a few kids that would rather play high school lacrosse or high school soccer, not Club. The few Cranford players they have already pulled out. Anyone left that wants to attend a showcase tournament will be hitting the Spring Tryouts.
11:04 will they complete spring season?
Most of Parsippany went to Jersey United, not Match Fit.
Thin Bench. That's o.k., there are enough parents in Westfield that think their kid can "Take over" and win games single handed. Either that, or they will run to PDA, write a check and play for the E,F,G,H,I, ee-i-ee-oh team, so they can wear the PDA Letters on their chest.
Anonymous @ 1:00pm you seem rather bitter at PDA and all your talk about team E,F,G,H,I etc thats just shows that either you are envious of that particular club or jealous that you don't either belong or feel that your child has a chance to belong. Either way you look at it the letters on your chest or any of the kids chest "NEVER" matters. Its the player that is behind those letters that make the difference. You should learn something about "YOUTH" sports before you continue to speak out about what this particular club does. I have a some children playing for the club and I find it amazing of the things that are said on this site that are very laughable and then again very disturbing to be said against any team or particular "YOUNG" children no matter what club they play for.
Word around here is atheletica coach will be director of coaching for pda shore and the players players are beimg told to try out for new shore team
@1:22 you are obviously the parent of an A team player, no other parent would come on here are condone what PDA is doing.
No, @1:22 must not be an "A" team parent and he/she is just beginning to figure it out; thus the exposed nerve but could not help but make it about themselves, when @1:00 was primarily zinging Westfield Parents and not "Youth".
Looks like the place to try out this spring will be PDA Shore. With a few tweaks the team they have now could be a very very good team. And with an influx of girls they could field a couple of very good teams or even a MONSTER "A" team . Hurry up. Exit 82.
How come i feel like I'm being sold a used car? What happened to quality town team and not paying all those $$$$$?
Old Adage. If you cant beat em, join em. Then beat em.
All of this PDA rants are getting old who really cares these girls are 13/14 GET A LIFE !!!!
Seriously you look silly criticizing a club because they have a number of teams. If you don't like the club don't have your daughter play there. Why bash the girls / parents who stay and play there for whatever team? It just youth soccer get a grip.
PDA can have ten teams at this age but they will only care about and cater to the Gunners, they will always be the ECNL team. All other teams are just the cash cows.
Pda is the best thing to happen to soccer in the state, best trainers, best players, even the parents are the best. I bet you cant name any so called academy or town club with pda's organization,staff or quality players. We are talking the yankees here folks who comes even close matchfit? Njsa? I dont think so. Stop hating.
I agree and whoever is second is a very distant secomd
I am a pda discple, i havebeen programed to responsed like this, must sign over another check, i will leave the amount blank
Not sure PDA South will agree to the "best" trainers and organization! Parents are nice though!
"Stop hating"?? seriously? Are the players blogging now?
Your right especially after the south loses there npl spot to the new SUPER TEAM from the shore. Whats there name ? the bulleverton dogs woof woof!
Wait until tryouts and the PDA coach says "we want to build a team around your daughter". You will quickly realize they want your check, not your daughter!
There are quality town teams. TR Everton is one of them. I don't care what anybody says, they are quality. I think the Freehold Celtic are a good quality product but when they are constantly losing their best players it's tough for it to come to full fruition. In this age of Academies these teams are are (or perhaps were) at a distinct disadvantage. I hope it doesn't come to this for all town teams. Kids need a place to play the game. At whatever level pace they can.There is nothing bad I can say about many of the top Academy teams as far as their product. The training is very good/great and they are very organized. They push the envelope with the level of play and get their teams to play in some great events. Whether the prices are right is up to the buyer. The only beef against academies that I think is legit is if they take your daughter on with promises (and they do) but are quick to cut & run if they can get a better player (usually trained by someone else). It's a promise and commitment they break with that individual player and their parents. The academy does not fulfill it's promise to develop. It doesn't always happen for a player in 6-12 months. Knowing there is "always someone better" should not absolve them of that commitment. My opinion and what I would expect as a parent.This is not sour grapes. I am part of a local town team that does not even come into the conversation. I feel my observations are fair though and I have watched and enjoyed many, many games that most of the teams mentioned throughout the last few posts have played in.
7:37 well said. My daughter plays for a big club (not same state as PDA) and trust me PDA is no different than any other big ECNL club. There are 3 ECNL clubs relatively close to ours and they are all the same. There is very little to no loyalty to players (IF) the next great player tries out for team. The best kids play - period, as it should be. Same goes for B,C, and D teams if you have them. Club teams are about fielding the best players and the competition at the top level is fierce, not just to make the team but to see the field. All big clubs need B,C and D teams to support the club financially that's the business model - get over it...If my daughter was unhappy with her current club there are plenty of lower tier clubs / town teams that she could play for. I'm sure its like that for PDA parents / daughters as well. No one is (stuck) anywhere. I have seen plenty of girls moved from our A team to B team and no one goes without a lot of sadness and anger. But everyone of those players is having fun and PLAYING all the time now that they are playing at appropriate level. This is what is best for their development. I understand the concern with paying same price as (A) team and not getting the exact same experience, but again you have choices. Stop bashing those who are happy with theirs.
Well said 7.37 poster. All due respect to 8:19 poster, but you are living in La La Land if you think these girls are all having fun. It is absolutely true that PDA discourages parties or team building events, for the very reasons that the 7:37 poster points out - PDA does not want the players building bonds bc at a minimum 1/3 will be cut each year (or demoted). And these kids know this now, before spring season even starts. They live with anxiety worrying that their next missed tackle or bad pass will be there end at PDA. That is a very sad sad state for these young kids to live in, as most of them are awesome players but now will suffer confidence issues. Not a PDA parent but living in NJ where PDA news abounds. Latest news is that the younger U11 girls were told that a full half of the team may be cut "based upon who shows up at tryouts." Hope those parents realized they signed up for the Yankees when they brought their 8 or 9 year old kid to tryouts a year or do ago, where they were promised PDA nirvana and dreams of Olympic gold medals.
10:34, that is exactly why my daughter chose not to try out for PDA when she was finally ready to switch teams. Everyone kept asking her why if she was "so good" she didn't go to PDA. She said being part of a team was really important to her and when she played against the Gunners in the past, the girls on the field didn't seem to like each other.
10;:34 you nailed it! It is PLAYER not TEAM development at PDA and it is true that the girls come already developed from Town teams. Team bonding is not encouraged and the parents have become completely sneaky and paranoid. Great environment for teen girl athletes.
I"m the 8:19 poster. So what is your point (10:34)? That it's unfair if half a U11 team gets cut / demoted if better girls tryout? Like I said there is no team loyalty when it comes to talent and it seems many on this blog don't understand that. Our team is no different - if 6 better players try out who are better than our 6 worst, than the 6 worst would be off the team, that's how the team gets better. The girls have a one year contract. This is competitive soccer, just because you wrote a check does not guarantee your daughter has a reserved spot on a team - at least after the year is up. If someone is so worried about their daughter being cut might I suggest they join a subpar team where they are the best player on that team. There she will never have to worry or feel the pressure of having to perform. Let us all know how that works out.As far as kids having fun all I can say is if your daughter is not having fun maybe this is not the right sport for her. No kid can perform at this level if they are flat out miserable and any good coach / parent could see that. I'm not a PDA parent but what they are doing is no different than any other ECNL club, including ours. There is a place for everyones daughter to play soccer (and have fun). If you are demanding equality at the higher levels of the sport - there isn't any. The best players play, and if you really want to know what a club thinks of your daughters talent, don't listen to what they say, watch where they place her.
Well said 11:27. Except our team of girls for the most part, all get along. Team bonding is encouraged via dinners and other activities, My kid is having a blast. She knowws that she can make a mistake as part of her develoment. All players do at this age, and her coach knows it. It is about consistency, though. She loves her club and works hard outside of practice, as she knows she can be displaced if someone better comes along. Is she worried? Maybe, but she never lets on, she puts her head down, works hard and expects to come out on top. This environment is not for eveyone, bit true that all ECNL clubs are alike. It s a lot of pressure, but some kids handle it better than others. It is tough to put your kid in that pressure cooker from a young age. We did not, until 7th grade and it worked well for us. Train with your town team and attend camps, or other development classes. If your kid is good, loves the sport, and works outside of team practice, she will not suffer from not being with a PDA from U8, this I know. As far as PDA bashing. If you build it they will come, or if you pay, they will build it. Who cares. Gunners will always be the top team and most cared about team as they are ECNL. I would rather see another really good NJ ECNL team. Unless matchfit is a total disgrace, that could be a great option. NJ has the talent for at least 2 excellent ECNL teams. I am uncertain as to why people would not bring thier talented daughter there, as opposed to PDA B C D. Yes, they are not on par with PDA ECNL yet, but they were just admitted, give them some time.
Wonder what team you are speaking of because clearly PDA does not have an ECNL monopoly on parents showing overt hostility toward the parents of and the children themselves who threaten their child's position or time. Nor does PDA have a monopoly on children who bully new kids on the team in an effort to make them quit and preserve their positions and or time.
12:17 totally agree. Our ECNL team sounds very much like yours. Our girls do a lot of off field activities together including fundraising. All the girls like and respect each other knowing that they don't have to be best friends but they have to have fun or why do it. What I was referring to mostly about PDA was the competitive structure which is the same everywhere at high level clubs. If PDA is truly 11 girls on the field that hate each other and only care about themselves than they would not be successful. So I doubt it's that bad. If it was I would encourage my daughter to leave. Best of luck to your girls this spring - safe travels.
Poster @ 10:45am, 10:53am I will say to you this that you have no clue what you are talking about. I will say that I have been on the Gunners since my child has been 7 years of age. All of these girls that are on this current team and those that have left to take their talents elsewhere have all been nothing but GREAT teammates to each other. They have supported one another and they have cheered for one another. Most importantly they have grown with each other and can I say they are all BEST friends......I would never say that but name one team in American that can. Girls are girls and boys are boys they get along sometimes and sometimes they want to rip each others head off. At the end of the day these girls like playing with each other. Even the girls that are no longer at PDA are GREAT girls who my child is STILL friends or talk to them through emails or when they see them at games. I ask you what are you talking about. And trust me I film EVERY game so you know me and I will say that on the field I have never ever seen any player go after another one of her teammates. The coaches wouldn't allow that and there is not one girl on that team current or past that would allow someone or one of their teammates to be mean to another girl on the team without something being said. I have been there since my child has been 7 years of age and a lot of this stuff that you are saying and other are saying is not only laughable but I will say I guess your opinion which you are totally allowed to have but I will tell you that majority of what you are saying is no where near the truth but thats okay because as long as you don't take it personal with the "young girls" I guess what you say is a healthy conversation as long as you and I understand that what you are saying is an opinion of someone that I KNOW for sure hasn't been there since their child has been 7 and someone that is either just assumming or listening to folk stories that just spread or change like wild fire. Anyway I just wanted to get into this conversation and stand around and take shots for all those little girls that are either still at PDA or been and left on THEIR OWN because there has not been one girl that has been on this team current or past that did not belong. I am proud that NJ has this much talent and instead of knocking it I am enjoying what these young ladies to be are doing. I don't care what the name is on your jersey most of you parents I have spoken to and shared valuable words and kinds words of all these kids not just at PDA but in youth soccer but some how there are a few that are just sour about "PDA" cmon son let it go PDA is not the end of the world and surely not the beginning because all these little kids including my kid that has been at PDA since 7 came from somewhere else, but PDA is her home now so she might as well enjoy it as SHE IS until its time for her to move on or whatever kids do.
I think that 138 might be more accurate or not. My kid went last summer to a PDA A team training session as a potential candidate for the team. The kids were fantastic to her. They were generally friendly and polite, introduced themselves to her and included her. They even were happy to pass to her during the scrimmages...something not consistent with the team she is on now. We ultimately chose another ECNL team a closer to home, but the kids at PDA were terrific.
Wow 1:38 can ramble on.I guess it depends on how far you dig. We signed up for a training class where 95% PDA, and were told by manager that separate classes were scheduled for U15s bc certain girls refused to train with one another. And I was told by parents of younger teams that girls very snotty to one another, already at those ages. Didn't sound like a pleasant atmosphere to me. Not that you can't find similar attitudes at other clubs - just sayin that PDA sea to breed it by refusing to do team bonding.
@3:02pm Yes I can ramble and not afraid of it. You can dig as deep as you like I am only telling you from experience. Now do you like my answer that doesn't really matter to me really. I am just telling you and whoever the truth. I find it odd that you mention some RANDOM training class and how a new class was created....now thats some funny stuff right there. I attend several training sessions with my kids and I have never ever heard of such story from anyone lol lol lol I told you these fairytales are sometimes funny as heck but hey lol lol do you. Team bonding what do you consider team bonding can you explain that to me and I want to see if my daughters team pass the bonding test. I know for sure that they do as of now sleepovers, they've gone bowling, sking, tailgating, indoor trampolining, soccer games. Now all this has been done this past season. Maybe I am missing something so please let me know.
Enough with we get alone talk. Let's talk about soccer. Anyone NY by a field in the Manhattan Tournament? How are fields?
SNOW>>>>> Manhattan Soccer Club is currently assessing field conditions and monitoring the incoming weather to make a determination about the Kick Off Classic Soccer Tournament scheduled for this weekend, February 28- March 2 2014. We have taken down the schedule to make changes as some fields remain under snow. We will have a final determination by Wednesday, as we will have an accurate view of the conditions of the weather report and the fields by then. Thank you for your patience as we try to fully assess the situation.
Brutal Damn winter! So sorry if they can not get this tournament off. If turf, how about a volunteer snow removal? Hopefully they can get the tourney in. Good luck to the teams. I am sure that you would like to play, as the weather has reaked havoc on your training and spring prep. Anyone want to build a nice indoor facility with me around exit 8 or 9 ?
Nobody is going to get bumped from NPL spot. Plenty of leagues to play in, which is appropriate for the level of the group.ECNLNPL Northeast GirlsNPL EDPEDPUSYSAASLPDA really does do what's best for the individual player, that's why you unrealistic parents go crazy you don't get the big picture. They aren't perfect, who's, but the effort to be that is on point! Give PDA South/SJEB some credit. The south is a different animal. It's all about educating the parents! Unfortunate the south are insecure, hold on to talent, and don't get it. Good job both clubs considering the challenges they face!
Less than a week left to register for FC Delco tourny. Over 400 teams have already applied. Application deadline is March 3rd.
WOW 12:24 thanks for teaching us bunch of southern knuckleheads all about this thing called soccer. Last time I checked I was from there and was a DIV 1 player so I guess I don't know Nothin. But you people from the north are so much smarter than us. Please teach us some more of your wisdom. Really..... just get over yourself. You are not the center of the soccer universe.
9:57...Typical south jersey person;" Ohh I played D1 blah blah". Where did you play? If you did play D1, then you should agree the south is behind. Since you're NOT, then its safe to say you're probably another "cause" of the problem. You are some dad, that played the game, BUT thinks he can coach and/or develop players. Or a some trainer, with generic training session, saying I can do it cheaper. Well you get what you pay for.WRONG answer buddy! You have no coaching philosophy, you keep hold of players needing to be pushed, and you're insecure. Maybe if you grew up in the North, your soccer future would have went past the college level.
Manhattan Spring Kickoff canceled for lower flights. Only top two brackets will play due to field conditions!!
Well maybe now most of us can do what we should do in the first place and instead of paying these exhorbitant fees for tournaments schedule some friendlies on our own on our local turf. Save a ton of money and use it for more training or to save up for college, guarantee quality games by setting it up ourselves with like or slightly better competition, and a better schedule. No gotsoccer points for those that care about that sort of thing but who cares.
Wow 12:37 what an ignorant arrogant post. I am not the original poster, but here's a news flash: Just becuase you went to some small Christian school in VA, and played soccer there, also, does not mean you know how to develop players or run a club for that matter. Uh, since you called the other poster out, where did you go to college and where did you play soccer? What license do you hold. Please do share. Where the hell do yo think you are living, in Germany? Lol. Now there's a county that knows how to develop youth and continues to improve and revamp thier youth system. You are correct, most parents can not honestly evaluate their own child and believe that they are better than they are. Not everyone, though. Hey, but what do you or your club do to set them straight, other than posting on a soccer blog about the depth of your soccer intelligence? Do you communicate, or do you wimp out? Do you send post game evaluations after every game, or, at least monthly? Did you have a player evaluation with the player and parent after the fall, and speak openly and honestly about where you saw the player in terms of the team and club? Did you touch on the their strengths and weaknesses?? Or, did you just say, yeah, they need more training, we have this nifty little winter session..You are either a PDA COACH defending your policies, if so why do you feel the need? or an arrogant SOB that's daughter happens to be good at soccer right now. Hope she is top 5 or 6, or you could be out a spot, especially if all of us farmers get soccer edumecated. I guess maybe some are uneducated down here, as, I do not know why talented players would stay at PDA south, or even SJ Elite, as opposed to driving across the delaware river for some quality clubs, if they are unhappy with their kids current team or club. Now I am sorry but, but I have to take my ignorant ass, and my lack of soccer knowledge, and go cow tipping, and when I am done with that, I have my rolling farm land and pastures to attend, all the way down here south of exit 6. What an donkey!
Talk about me rambling lol @11:07am but that was very good and I have to applaud you on stepping to the non-sense being said about SOUTH JERSEY. Okay now let me really RAMBLE as I normally do. Let it be clear that I am not from SJ but I am from born and raised in NJ. If I can add or make comments of your post and the previous post. I would say just because you are a DIV 1 player it doesn't make what you say the GOSPEL of knowledge or mean that you have all the answers. There are a lot of coaches that never even played the game a a high level that are rather students of the game and know it very well. I would say this, that being a DIV 1 player that you say I would think that you should know better about evening biting or getting upset about either being from South, Central or North Jersey. Look at your drivers lic., I would bet that it only says NJ not South or Central. Thats for Feb. 26 9:57pmPoster Feb. 27 12:37am first you are up must too late to be blogging about youth soccer lol lol but seems to me that you have a grip with people from the southern part of the state. I don't see how you say that South Jersey is behind. Are they playing with a different ball or something. If you look at some of the rosters from any of these academies you will see that they have players from all over NJ, North South Central etc. I find it funny because I will be the first to tell you that I have never played soccer of any kind although I would have like to growing up but it was not in the cards for me but I still like the game but tell me this. If Academy Soccer really didn't start popping up until the late 1990's to early 2000's where do you think all the division 1,2, and 3 players emerged from. Hummmm good question huh. I can tell you they they came from the streets of NJ the playgrounds of NJ the backyards of NJ the school yards of NJ. Those players just played soccer thats it. There was no Academy style soccer but now all of a sudden we feel that ITS THE ONLY WAY to go and I am knocking the system at all but I am saying thats its not the only way. That I will believe no matter what. And guess what sorry to bust many bubbles but the best soccer player in NJ probably doesn't even play for an academy or maybe doesn't even play at all but has the talent, gifts and all the above to be the best but GUESS WHAT......they can't afford it!!!!
continued....Poster Feb. 27 11:07am please don't let them ruffle your feathers and how come everytime someone goes off or says something questionable it has to be either a PDA Parent, Coach, etc lol lol don't you think or believe that there are more people in this very small full of soccer people state lol of NJ. Whoever got you P'ed off lol lol they did a great job I will tell you that lol. You mentioned or shall you asked "What License does one hold.........hummm now think about that. License......what other sport beside soccer requires you to get a license to coach......wait not one but multiple. I can see the basic coaching certificate with a background check and all that but DAG ON A B C D E F has soccer lost its mind lol lol. I know some pretty soccer savy people male and female and they have no such things. Now grant you they played the game before and they are parents of players so I guess that qualifies them right lol lol. The way you write, its as you are a coach or trainer. Can I guess SJ or can I just say NEW JERSEY. Can I ask or dare ask where you went to college or what club you currently coach at, or as you say PLEASE DO SHARE lol lol. I only ask because I feel a lot of folks "Wimp out" as you claim the person does and are either scared to say because they don't want to draw attention to them or there club by throwing darts at others but I will say that my child plays for PDA and I guess she is happy but I can tell you she has many different trainers work with her in camp settings, group settings, individual settings and I have to say that I am pretty proud of NEW JERSEY for the coaches male and female that we have access to and nevermind the thousands of children that are growing up in NEW JERSEY that someday will take those talents beyond these state borders will be not only impressive but a true testiment that the reason why NEW JERSEY is a hot bed for youth soccer players is because NEW JERSEY is ONE STATE and not divided by North, South, Central but ONE STATE. P.S. Hammonton (SJEB) has if not the best some of the best field in the STATE period.
Manhattan Tournament Cancelled !!!!
The Whole Tournament is Cancelled !!!!!
SPOT ON 11:07!!!
I cant believe im not playing this weekend.... i mean the kids.....really thats what i mean!
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