This will also be the season for player movement to pre-academy teams. Who stays, who goes (and who goes where). It won't be boring.
Get ready, the big tournaments of the year are right around the corner.
"Hey Ranking guy, I have no idea how that other poster took your info and figured that your son doesn't get play time. Keep ranking, at least it is something fun to read."
Thanks for your support, and for reading (as opposed to "listening").
But that dude was right on the money! My kid is a pine-rider for a Northern Counties E flight team! He is clearly enlightened and I regret driving him away forever.
First, based on what rankings? Not GS. RB won't be on it. Maybe not Match Fit or PDA for that matter. Top Drawer? Or a hybrid...academies on top and GS for all else? Some interesting picks there. Hmmm.
Gottschee Roma will be at a regional for the US Club National Cup. The schedule isn't posted yet so I have no idea who else will be there. But I wouldn't be surprised if Ironbound is there as well.
Whether shocking or not, the list is not too far off from points teams are set to earn already from current league standings or lose by fall etc. Aside from a surprise at MAPS Cup the math is about correct for this list for fall with a couple exceptions. Marlboro will not drop that much. They are doing well in the EDP 2nd division and will replace the spring 2012 EDP points. Also, Westfield is too high. They would have to win at MAPS Cup just to get into range of the top 10. Not happening. Maybe these two just reflect of your perception of team strength right now. I'm a seller of Westfield on that basis. I'll buy Parsippany in its place. No way Westfield steps on a soccer field this Saturday and beats Parsippany. Probably not even a close match.
Good luck to Millburn who are the only NJ team in the top flight at the MAPS Cup. But with NYSC, Calverton and FSA in their group, that's going to be a very tough one to advance from.
EB, Gunners, Marlboro and TSF are all in the 2nd flight (which also looks like it will have a 10,000 point value). Gottschee Blue and Dix Hills are also in this one, leading me to think an all NYE final could easily happen.
Westfield and Monroe are in the 3rd flight. I wouldn't be surprised if Westfield does well as I don't think their group is that tough.
Yes. Maybe I sold Westfield too soon. It looks like Westfield has a good shot to win the Silver flight at MAPs Cup. They should roll Phil. Coppa and probably Pleasant Valley too.
Don't look now, but the Stallions 99/00 also have a good chance to win their group at FC Delco. In fact, it looks like NJ teams could do better in PA than NJ teams do in NJ at MAPS Cup.
"Ironbound will be in regionals for the national cup and will probably win it"
I thought Ironbound might be in LaGrangeville. And you may be right about the outcome.
But after what I thought was a interesting (and strange) MAPS Elite match back in March (3-1 Ironbound), I think Gottschee Roma would be up for a rematch. The schedule still isn't up but it would make for a fun final.
Of course, I assume there will be some other teams there who will have different plans.
Just found the results of last year's National Cup regional. Ironbound had two teams there and Gottschee Roma was there as well (still playing as Match Fit).
The Roma/MF team beat Pleasant Valley in the final of what looked like a strange group of teams that also included teams FC Westchester and Eastern FC.
Seems like the MAPS Cup and Delco are much better places to go.
"Don't look now, but the Stallions 99/00 also have a good chance to win their group at FC Delco. "
Looks like a 5,000 point flight for them. I suppose they could win it all right. The result with Morris Utd. will interesting anyway.
But HBC's "B" team isn't all that bad. And as I've never seen the team from MD, I suppose you never know.
But if they get to the final, the other side has some teams that have struggled this spring in Danubia and Lower Merion. So a Stallions win here doesn't seem far-fetched to me.
The US Club Regional schedule has been posted and both Ironbound and Gottschee Roma are indeed on it. They are not scheduled to play each other unless they both reach the final, which could definitely be the case.
NY Elite FC are also there and will play both NJ teams. They are the only other team that would appear to be able to compete. But there is also a team identified as "Club ID" which may mean they are short one team. But it could also mean a team of US Club ID Program players which would definitely make this one more interesting.
Still not interesting enough to skip both the MAPS Cup and Delco for though.
"Not interesting enough to skip both the MAPS Cup and Delco" Why? Is it because the point total is much lower? competition worse? The winner gets to go on to nationals. Also, how could two teams in the same Group both reach the finals?
"Why? Is it because the point total is much lower? competition worse? The winner gets to go on to nationals. Also, how could two teams in the same Group both reach the finals?"
The competition would not appear to be on par with the two other big tournaments, even in the lower flights. So I think this one is a peculiar choice at this point. As the years go by and this "National Championship" process becomes a little easier to understand (and appears more valid) then this could become an important tournament. But as it works right now, I can't see why strong teams would skip events like the MAPS Cup or Delco to take part in it from a points or competition standpoint.
And I was wrong about a potential Ironbound/Gottschee final. This one is set up in a way I'm not familiar with and I assumed they were in different groups because they aren't scheduled to play each other. But it looks like the three teams in Group A will play the three teams in Group B and one will advance based on points earned with goal differential as the first tiebreaker.
Can't say I recall a tournament with two groups in a flight where you don't play the teams in your own group, but the ones from the other group instead. The way this is set up, it looks like Ironbound and Gottschee Roma can't possibly face each other under any circumstances.
It also means that the final will be guaranteed to rematch two teams w'veho already played each other earlier in the same tournament. It's a different (strange) way to set it up.
NJ FORCE U14B (Fall) are having tryouts in Edison NJ Monday May 20th at 7pm. Tryouts will be held at Spencer Rockman Soccer Complex. If interest please visit www.newjerseyforcesocceracademy.com.
Championship: Penn Fusion (Black or Red, take your pick)
Elite: Chicago Blast Premier: Mt. Laurel
No, I don't see a good weekend for Jersey boys. But I had to pick at least one of our teams. Hope I'm wrong though and Mt. Laurel is just one of many NJ winners.
Anybody notice how well NJSA04 has been doing in May....from looking weak this spring to discarding top 10-15 teams one after another this month. ??????
They can't string more than two passes before dumping the ball forward to their massive forward. That forward is talented and a strong #9, but this is dump and run at its best.
Without that forward, they have no attack!
Once that forward realizes the weapon that he is, he'll leave and NJSA will sink very fast.
Not related to the memorial day weekend games but for all you youth soccer enthusiasts, come watch the Cedar Stars Super Y team. They have some of the best players from Westfield, East Brunswick, Millburn and PDA. This could be the super team people thought New Jersey could have so it should be interesting to see if they can dominate out of state competition.
Super Y? Who cares. Super Y was the way ti go in 2003. Not now. Travel 3-4 hrs per game to come up against complete crap competition. Anyone can qualify for super Y nationals town in Florida. Just pay a fee and get in an airplane!
Whoever these TALENTED players are, they just want something better over the summer instead of playing down in fort dix. This won't be a team, especially with the east Brunswick coach.
We can all grab 3 players from the top ten teams in the state and would be a powerhouse. This cedar stars team is no different than what anyone could do.
Enjoy playing together, you can talk about your 7-0 victory vs a horrible Delaware team on your 6 hr drive home.
Sounds like someone has it out for the EB coach, why so nasty about a Super Y team? Isn't it about the kids first of all and them keeping their skills sharp through the summer! Lighten up!
From Wikipedia: "The mountains of Lebanon were once shaded by thick cedar forests and the tree is the symbol of the country."
The owner of Cedar Stars Academy is Lebanese.
"I couldn't put my son on a team called "Cedar Stars" unless he was U6 or younger."
Considering they won both the U12 and U11 NJ Cups recently (with the U12s now ranked #1 in the country) and will now be fielding a Super Y team with some of the top players in the state, you have no need to worry about it as it's unlikely your son would be invited to play with a "Cedar Stars" team.
Question: "WTH is a Cedar Stars?"
Answer: A team your kid only wishes he could make.
Wow! You guys get a topic, Manalapan, and each of you know so much about it. Really impressive. The roster, where the players are from etc...plus you take a few shots and wait for the next topic to pounce on. Fun! Next topic...
Looks like the points Millburn earned for last year's NJ Cup have now expired but they've yet to award them the points for this year's championship. So the result is that the 3 time State Champs have now dropped to 2nd in the State Rankings.
I'm sure they'll get around to awarding the new points soon. But even then, Millburn's high total at the outset of this year's NJ Cup may result in an award that just pushes them back in from of EB. So they will likely need to keep winning to stay there as they won't have much of a cushion.
gotsoccer is a good thing. But it definitely has some gaping holes at times.
Looks like they've dropped down to just 5 teams at the US Club Regional. So that silly format they had has been scrapped and each team will play one match against the other four.
So Ironbound will take on Gottschee Roma on Monday after all in what will likely play out to be a championship match.
Roma in a CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH? Wow. No wonder the Roma coached applied for that rather than two of the best tournaments in the country. Talk about desperate of got soccer points and easy wins..
We're a little hard up for topics now that state cup is over huh? Actually that little NY tourney looks like a pretty interesting one where the winner goes on to play for a national championship in Colorado alongside the NPL Champions. Kudos to Ironbound and Gottschee for not just chasing the gotsoccer points at MAPS or Delco! I wouldn't be surprised to see that tourney get bigger in the next year or two and the GS point bonanza to follow.
After all, it is a little glimpse into the much bigger topic of the day. There IS a lot to talk about. Anyone watching the news saw NY has a new pro soccer team, NYC FC, owned by none other than Man City and the NY Yankees. It is monumental. Did anyone notice this tectonic shift of area soccer power from NJ to NY? It happened. Of course, the new club is operated by world class franchises that will eclipse NYRB at the MLS level. More importantly for us, the current pursuit of the golden pot at the end of the rainbow will no longer lead parents to NJ and RedBull Academy. It will take them to Queens in 2015 and beyond. You can already see the changing landscape in our age group where the perennially #1 U13 academy team from RedBull got outgunned by the Gottschee academy in Queens. The NY U13 state cup brought together the top from EDP whereas NJ Cup was..well...something less. "World Class" soccer may just become a realistic option from the youth level on up in NY. Let the inevitable trek begin.
Right...because Chelsea also invested hundreds of millions to build a stadium and a pro team in NY and partnered with the Yankees? Yup. That's exactly like Chelsea's silly free training alliances with Match Fit etc.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 665 of 665"Hey Ranking guy, I have no idea how that other poster took your info and figured that your son doesn't get play time. Keep ranking, at least it is something fun to read."
Thanks for your support, and for reading (as opposed to "listening").
But that dude was right on the money! My kid is a pine-rider for a Northern Counties E flight team! He is clearly enlightened and I regret driving him away forever.
Gosh, I miss him so much already!
next season's rankings in NJ:
1. Red Bulls
2. pda
3. Matchfit
4. Millburn
5. East Brunswick
6. Ironbound
7. TSF
8. Gottschee
9. SJ Barons
10. Westfield
11. Gunners
12. Marlboro
13. Princeton
14. Stallions
15. Parsipanny
Based on what?
First, based on what rankings? Not GS. RB won't be on it. Maybe not Match Fit or PDA for that matter. Top Drawer? Or a hybrid...academies on top and GS for all else?
Some interesting picks there. Hmmm.
I thought the list was an interesting conglomeration as well.
I'm just waiting for the outrage-filled responses from those who don't like where the sit on this list or, even worse, those who failed to make it.
I'm sure thebe plenty of folks who are who'll be ready to rumble once word of this atrocity reaches Mt. Olive!
While most of that list battle it out Memorial Day weekend at Maps Cup. Where will the new powers Parsipanny, Ironbound and BWG Roma be playing?
Gottschee Roma will be at a regional for the US Club National Cup. The schedule isn't posted yet so I have no idea who else will be there. But I wouldn't be surprised if Ironbound is there as well.
Come to think of it, I won't be surprised if Parsippany is there either.
Whether shocking or not, the list is not too far off from points teams are set to earn already from current league standings or lose by fall etc. Aside from a surprise at MAPS Cup the math is about correct for this list for fall with a couple exceptions. Marlboro will not drop that much. They are doing well in the EDP 2nd division and will replace the spring 2012 EDP points. Also, Westfield is too high. They would have to win at MAPS Cup just to get into range of the top 10. Not happening. Maybe these two just reflect of your perception of team strength right now. I'm a seller of Westfield on that basis. I'll buy Parsippany in its place. No way Westfield steps on a soccer field this Saturday and beats Parsippany. Probably not even a close match.
Good luck to Millburn who are the only NJ team in the top flight at the MAPS Cup. But with NYSC, Calverton and FSA in their group, that's going to be a very tough one to advance from.
EB, Gunners, Marlboro and TSF are all in the 2nd flight (which also looks like it will have a 10,000 point value). Gottschee Blue and Dix Hills are also in this one, leading me to think an all NYE final could easily happen.
Westfield and Monroe are in the 3rd flight. I wouldn't be surprised if Westfield does well as I don't think their group is that tough.
Parsippany is off Memorial Day weekend - because, dare I say - their coach DOESN'T CARE about gs points.
Sacrilege I know.
Yes. Maybe I sold Westfield too soon. It looks like Westfield has a good shot to win the Silver flight at MAPs Cup. They should roll Phil. Coppa and probably Pleasant Valley too.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Parsippany get real.
Don't look now, but the Stallions 99/00 also have a good chance to win their group at FC Delco. In fact, it looks like NJ teams could do better in PA than NJ teams do in NJ at MAPS Cup.
Ironbound will be in regionals for the national cup and will probably win it
Who else is playing there?
dont know the schedule is not posted yet but BWG roma is playing there aswell.
"Ironbound will be in regionals for the national cup and will probably win it"
I thought Ironbound might be in LaGrangeville. And you may be right about the outcome.
But after what I thought was a interesting (and strange) MAPS Elite match back in March (3-1 Ironbound), I think Gottschee Roma would be up for a rematch. The schedule still isn't up but it would make for a fun final.
Of course, I assume there will be some other teams there who will have different plans.
Just found the results of last year's National Cup regional. Ironbound had two teams there and Gottschee Roma was there as well (still playing as Match Fit).
The Roma/MF team beat Pleasant Valley in the final of what looked like a strange group of teams that also included teams FC Westchester and Eastern FC.
Seems like the MAPS Cup and Delco are much better places to go.
"Don't look now, but the Stallions 99/00 also have a good chance to win their group at FC Delco. "
Looks like a 5,000 point flight for them. I suppose they could win it all right. The result with Morris Utd. will interesting anyway.
But HBC's "B" team isn't all that bad. And as I've never seen the team from MD, I suppose you never know.
But if they get to the final, the other side has some teams that have struggled this spring in Danubia and Lower Merion. So a Stallions win here doesn't seem far-fetched to me.
The US Club Regional schedule has been posted and both Ironbound and Gottschee Roma are indeed on it. They are not scheduled to play each other unless they both reach the final, which could definitely be the case.
NY Elite FC are also there and will play both NJ teams. They are the only other team that would appear to be able to compete. But there is also a team identified as "Club ID" which may mean they are short one team. But it could also mean a team of US Club ID Program players which would definitely make this one more interesting.
Still not interesting enough to skip both the MAPS Cup and Delco for though.
"Not interesting enough to skip both the MAPS Cup and Delco"
Why? Is it because the point total is much lower? competition worse? The winner gets to go on to nationals. Also, how could two teams in the same Group both reach the finals?
"Why? Is it because the point total is much lower? competition worse? The winner gets to go on to nationals. Also, how could two teams in the same Group both reach the finals?"
The competition would not appear to be on par with the two other big tournaments, even in the lower flights. So I think this one is a peculiar choice at this point. As the years go by and this "National Championship" process becomes a little easier to understand (and appears more valid) then this could become an important tournament. But as it works right now, I can't see why strong teams would skip events like the MAPS Cup or Delco to take part in it from a points or competition standpoint.
And I was wrong about a potential Ironbound/Gottschee final. This one is set up in a way I'm not familiar with and I assumed they were in different groups because they aren't scheduled to play each other. But it looks like the three teams in Group A will play the three teams in Group B and one will advance based on points earned with goal differential as the first tiebreaker.
Can't say I recall a tournament with two groups in a flight where you don't play the teams in your own group, but the ones from the other group instead. The way this is set up, it looks like Ironbound and Gottschee Roma can't possibly face each other under any circumstances.
It also means that the final will be guaranteed to rematch two teams w'veho already played each other earlier in the same tournament. It's a different (strange) way to set it up.
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good luck.
2 days before super y kick off and not one comment on it.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Apparently not too many.
I'll take a stab at the MAPS Cup winners.
Platinum: NYSC
Gold: Gottschee Blue
Silver: DUSC
And at Delco...
Championship: Penn Fusion (Black or Red, take your pick)
Elite: Chicago Blast
Premier: Mt. Laurel
No, I don't see a good weekend for Jersey boys. But I had to pick at least one of our teams. Hope I'm wrong though and Mt. Laurel is just one of many NJ winners.
Happy Memorial Day to all!
Silver: Westfield
Anybody notice how well NJSA04 has been doing in May....from looking weak this spring to discarding top 10-15 teams one after another this month. ??????
NJSA good?!
They can't string more than two passes before dumping the ball forward to their massive forward. That forward is talented and a strong #9, but this is dump and run at its best.
Without that forward, they have no attack!
Once that forward realizes the weapon that he is, he'll leave and NJSA will sink very fast.
Anyone know where NJSA is playing this weekend?
Not related to the memorial day weekend games but for all you youth soccer enthusiasts, come watch the Cedar Stars Super Y team. They have some of the best players from Westfield, East Brunswick, Millburn and PDA. This could be the super team people thought New Jersey could have so it should be interesting to see if they can dominate out of state competition.
Sounds like a great idea but best kids from each team all come together on one? Hope its true but not likely.
are you talking about njsa academy or pre academy?
My understanding is that the Cedar Stars Super Y U13 team is quite real and that the coach from EB will be at the helm. Interesting indeed.
Super Y? Who cares. Super Y was the way ti go in 2003. Not now. Travel 3-4 hrs per game to come up against complete crap competition. Anyone can qualify for super Y nationals town in Florida. Just pay a fee and get in an airplane!
Whoever these TALENTED players are, they just want something better over the summer instead of playing down in fort dix. This won't be a team, especially with the east Brunswick coach.
We can all grab 3 players from the top ten teams in the state and would be a powerhouse. This cedar stars team is no different than what anyone could do.
Enjoy playing together, you can talk about your 7-0 victory vs a horrible Delaware team on your 6 hr drive home.
Sounds like someone has it out for the EB coach, why so nasty about a Super Y team? Isn't it about the kids first of all and them keeping their skills sharp through the summer! Lighten up!
I couldn't put my son on a team called "Cedar Stars" unless he was U6 or younger.
WTH is a Cedar Stars?
They used to be called the Cedar Superstars and now this is the big kid name. Pretty intimidating.
From Wikipedia: "The mountains of Lebanon were once shaded by thick cedar forests and the tree is the symbol of the country."
The owner of Cedar Stars Academy is Lebanese.
"I couldn't put my son on a team called "Cedar Stars" unless he was U6 or younger."
Considering they won both the U12 and U11 NJ Cups recently (with the U12s now ranked #1 in the country) and will now be fielding a Super Y team with some of the top players in the state, you have no need to worry about it as it's unlikely your son would be invited to play with a "Cedar Stars" team.
Question: "WTH is a Cedar Stars?"
Answer: A team your kid only wishes he could make.
Careful Mr. Cedar Superstars, your Manalapan is unzipped.
"Careful Mr. Cedar Superstars, your Manalapan is unzipped."
LOL!
Manalapan? How did Manalapan get involved in this?
All roads lead to Manalapan!
Not my road, but what does Manalapan have to do with anything. Do they even have a team? They do have a nice low end tournament.
No one on the u13 team is from Manalapan. Are you talking about u12 or u15?
Manalapan? Even the Manalapan players don't play there.
Wow! You guys get a topic, Manalapan, and each of you know so much about it. Really impressive. The roster, where the players are from etc...plus you take a few shots and wait for the next topic to pounce on. Fun! Next topic...
5 comments on Manalapan, pretty much all asking the same question. Why Manalapan? If that is too much for your brain to handle, don't respond.
"Why Manalapan? If that is too much for your brain to handle, don't respond."
Because the irrationality of it tends to annoy the feeble minded.
"Fun! Next topic..."
Let's see...how about...Manalapan?
Here's a fun gotsoccer twist.
Looks like the points Millburn earned for last year's NJ Cup have now expired but they've yet to award them the points for this year's championship. So the result is that the 3 time State Champs have now dropped to 2nd in the State Rankings.
I'm sure they'll get around to awarding the new points soon. But even then, Millburn's high total at the outset of this year's NJ Cup may result in an award that just pushes them back in from of EB. So they will likely need to keep winning to stay there as they won't have much of a cushion.
gotsoccer is a good thing. But it definitely has some gaping holes at times.
Ohhh. I hit a nerve, sorry. Next topic. Go away.
What happens when you don't make the RB team?
"What happens when you don't make the RB team?"
My guess is Manalapan.
"Ohhh. I hit a nerve"
Sounds like you ought to be more careful with your toothbrush then.
Looks like they've dropped down to just 5 teams at the US Club Regional. So that silly format they had has been scrapped and each team will play one match against the other four.
So Ironbound will take on Gottschee Roma on Monday after all in what will likely play out to be a championship match.
Roma in a CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH? Wow. No wonder the Roma coached applied for that rather than two of the best tournaments in the country. Talk about desperate of got soccer points and easy wins..
Sad if you ask me
"Sad if you ask me"
What? No hate for the Ironbound coach?
Agenda if you ask me!
We're a little hard up for topics now that state cup is over huh? Actually that little NY tourney looks like a pretty interesting one where the winner goes on to play for a national championship in Colorado alongside the NPL Champions. Kudos to Ironbound and Gottschee for not just chasing the gotsoccer points at MAPS or Delco! I wouldn't be surprised to see that tourney get bigger in the next year or two and the GS point bonanza to follow.
After all, it is a little glimpse into the much bigger topic of the day. There IS a lot to talk about. Anyone watching the news saw NY has a new pro soccer team, NYC FC, owned by none other than Man City and the NY Yankees. It is monumental. Did anyone notice this tectonic shift of area soccer power from NJ to NY? It happened. Of course, the new club is operated by world class franchises that will eclipse NYRB at the MLS level. More importantly for us, the current pursuit of the golden pot at the end of the rainbow will no longer lead parents to NJ and RedBull Academy. It will take them to Queens in 2015 and beyond. You can already see the changing landscape in our age group where the perennially #1 U13 academy team from RedBull got outgunned by the Gottschee academy in Queens. The NY U13 state cup brought together the top from EDP whereas NJ Cup was..well...something less. "World Class" soccer may just become a realistic option from the youth level on up in NY. Let the inevitable trek begin.
Yes, just like Chelsea did. LOL
Right...because Chelsea also invested hundreds of millions to build a stadium and a pro team in NY and partnered with the Yankees? Yup. That's exactly like Chelsea's silly free training alliances with Match Fit etc.
It's soccer in the US, it will never be anything more then that in our lifetime.
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