Parsippany was at Potamac and they had better results than TSF so maybe TSF should stop bragging. They won 1 game.
Parsippany played a team TSF beat 6-1 and 4-0 wtf r u saying they were in the second bracket
I do not understand why TSF gets so much attention on this blog. What is so special about TSF? What do they offer that makes them superior to other teams in this age group? I am trying to figure this out. What am I missing?
NOTHING special about TSF.Someone just keeps bringing them up on this blog at an attempt to keep them relevant.
Gottschee put it on Black for a 2-0 win.
MF played one man down after a red card.Outcome would have been different if at full strength.
Matchfit played their reserves good try
Why would MF play their reserves?The EDP league is still up for grabs.
Yes MF did get a red card. But Gottschee was already in the lead 1-0. The red came 20 minutes before second half ended. Also either way Gottschee was creating more oppertunites to score. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I saw. The second goal was going to to happen either way in my opinion. Maybe it helped a little that you were one man less but it was coming. I think Gottschee just dominated more. But either way like people have said in this blog. Any top team can beat anyone else at any given day.
Guys please.. Stop making excuses like that PDA parent made. Face it you guys lost and they won. No team would send in reserves for a league like this. What would be the point of that? Isn't the point to win the league so they get first? Not just give up losses?
will be interesting to see EDP showcase group of Parsippany, Gottschee, and SJEB next week
11:36MF lost the game fair and square. But I don't understand why a handful of their starters were on the bench. Maybe they didn't get playing time in the previous tournament? What I am seeing more & more in "pay to play soccer" is that coaches are sacrificing EDP games to play everyone and only play their starters in tournaments & state cup games. MF isn't the only team that does this. When the focus is on points this seems to be the trend.
8:50 am yes, I was wondering about that too - if all they care about is points, then why sacrifice the EDP games. you still get points for EDP, right? or why even bother playing in the EDP if you don't care for those points? MF - why didn't you play your starters, and then trash gottschee because they beat you. same with PDA - you complain that 7 players didn't show up to play. and then you're a sore loser, downplaying gottschee because they beat you. if you come to play a game, then play with whatever players you have, starters or reserves, or don't come at all. suck up the loss and move on.
Everyone on the team is paying. A coach can't just play his starters all the time and if they do, they players who never play are going to leave and that could be a big financial loss. What really seems unfair is you have some families paying $0 and their kid plays all the time and the players on the bench have to subsidize him.
Who cares where your from. You're disrespectful and your coach should talk to you about not embarrassing your club and family.
MF black played horrible this weekend they should pay people to play for them not charge them.
10:04 am Are you talking about MF? or just any team? Whether a coach plays his starters some or all of the time, that is his decision. But if you don't play your starters because you need to play the other players, then don't cry if you lose.
It appears as though a player has decided to impersonate someone from Parsippany again, as they claim to have been style Match Fit v Gotschee game which occurred at the same time as their practice two hours away. This is not appreciated and is frustrating to those that are regulars on this board. As for the person that responded to the Parsippany impersonator claiming they are a glorified town team, you are also misinformed. Parsippany recently aligned itself with Bayern Munich and just last month had a player represent the club as part of a "Bayern US Affiliates" team in Munich. Please do not make negative statements about other teams without proper evidence or research.
4:41State of New Jersey?
4:41, your post is very difficult to decipher but it appears as though you are mocking Parsippany once again. Please do not use players names as that is against board rules
Ok sorry I didn't realize where can I find these blog rules
Click on talking youth soccer at the top of the page for authors profile. You 16 yr olds are not as smart and tough as you think you are.
FACTS most underrated team in nj is pasco
10:18I am a 16yr old that is embarrassed by the ignorance of some on this blog. I guarantee that none of my teammates are feeding into this nonsense. I have never posted before in this blog but felt it necessary On June 2 12:27 some kid bashed the parents on this blog..parents should be encouraged to share on this blog..besides being very immature & undisciplined, these kids are very unappreciative..without our parents driving us to/from practice, tournaments, and spending thousands of dollars traveling, etc. we would not be soccer players.
Thanks for your post, I'm sure you're a good kid as most youth players are. It's unfortunate that a few ignorant kids(and parents) can ruin a good experience for others.
Thanks for representing Jersey soccer talk, 12:11.
Predictions on next weekends tournament at hammonton?
EB beats Logan Black Jacks 2-0 Take first place in Region 1 Premiere DIvision of Champions League.
If I'm white can I play on Match Fit Black?
Top 3 teams in the state and why ?
TSF now ranked first in state after finishing 4th in EDP north. Would love to see a PDA Rooney vs. Tsf game. Winner of that would be the undisputed number 1 team in NJ if you ask me.
TSF is in the 2nd flight of EDP tournament. MF in first.
Wierd how TSF is in the second bracket even though they beat matchfit
TSF is a fluke. PDA versus MF Black is undisputed best in NJ.
Matchfit black has already lost too gotschee TSF and pda and Logan this year sooooooo
I am fairly new to this blog..What does TSF stand for? Are they an academy? From what I heard, they charge almost $3,400? Is the training that good? Is it a good investment? My son was offered a spot for next year. They only saw him play 1x and I felt as if they are more concerned with filling a roster. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thank you.
the sports factory. not an academy but tells parents they are. They need to justify those huge fees. overpriced compared to other clubs. My son was there and got very little playing time because they play the same starters most of the game and then tell parents it's all about training for player development.
whats his name
why? whats your name?
What's my name?
Looks like MF Blue had a draw against TSF 2-2 a few weeks ago.
11:44Was this the TSF academy or club team? If it was their club team, it is a non-event.
theres no academy team there all teams. Are they playing in the academy league?
TSF and MF tied in an EDP league event. Interested how the two teams do this weekend in EDP showcase
9:44No affiliation w/ either team..they are each in separate brackets..MF is definitely facing tougher competition. Unfortunately for NJ teams, we are lagging behind other states top teams. I would be very surprised if either team won their bracket. I hope that I am proven wrong. Good luck to all NJ teams!
Any news about 1st games in Hammonton?
No scores posted from today's EDP Showcase results as yet. That's pretty weak.I can tell you that EB and SJEB drew 0-0. And while I didn't see it myself, I was told that Parsippany blasted Gottschee.
Parsippany beat Gottschee 4-0.And it is odd that no scores (for any of the flights) are posted. Must be a technical problem.
May 9, 2016 at 9:43 PM "This is a player on TSF. The players want to stress that the comments regarding our acceptance in tournaments such as Surf Cup and others is not us speaking and the talk of us being "super great" and "the best team ever" and all the other cocky stuff. We have all agreed that we are only as good as our record and championships show."I thought I'd read that TSF was heading to the Surf Cup this year. But this appears not to be the case as they are not on the Accepted Teams list for this one.https://events.gotsport.com/events/teamlist.aspx?eventid=51482(U18)
Yea because it wasn't us talking
Matchfit black had a rough weekend. While cedar stars matchfit blue parsippany gotschee and TSF all won
I was at Tuckahoe today and wouldn't put any credence on any of the results. Yes, the grass is great. But the wind there today made it impossible to play soccer in any reasonable manner.
I am not going to say a lot about this weekends results but everyone should know that FC Copa who talks like they can compete with a top 10 team in the state lost 8-0 in the finals of the 2nd bottom bracket to a team I had never heard of. Also know that Parsippany white lost 8-0 to a team who had 0 points prior to that game. The silver bracket was the only bracket where all teams were evenly matched. Other than that, poor bracket making by edp.
Actuallly the bottom bracket was also competitive with Edison, Montclair and Aberdeen all competing fiercly.
Stop spreading rumors. That was the FC Copa B team that lost 8-0. The A team won their group at EDP Showcase this week. The B team sucks, the A team can compete with anyone.
"...the A team can compete with anyone."Isn't Porto the "A" team at FC Copa? If so, congrats on that impressive win in the 7th flight today!This tremendous victory, coupled with their 9th place finish (out of 10 teams) in a 2nd division EDP league this spring is clear evidence that they "can compete with anyone."C'mon Bro!
Is anyone familiar with youth soccer in other countries? I ask because I'm wondering if the quality of refereeing in other parts of the world is as bad as we see here.I know refereeing a soccer match is a very tough job and that by the end, you'll have pleased half the people (the winners) while ticking off the other half (the losers). So I appreciate the difficulty.But the quality of refereeing I see regularly is so poor it's hard to stomach. Refs who don't seem to have any grasp of playing advantage when a foul is committed are the norm and not the exception. And the common practice of merely cautioning players who foul to deny obvious goal scoring opportunities makes dragging down a player on the way to the goal a good tactical decision. These are examples of just a couple of errors I see far too frequently.But not fully grasping the laws of the game isn't their worst offence. This honor goes to the host of refs who seem to think the point of the game is for them to exercise their authority. So instead of a youth soccer game, we get some sad middle-aged man on a power trip.There are some very good referees. But, unfortunately, they are few and far between and I wonder if this is an American problem or if we share this collective incompetence with the rest of the world.
Refereeing is bad everywhere at every level. Just take a look at the handball goal from Peru against Brazil.
That Peru goal was a blatant cheat, but you can't blame the referees for missing that call. It happened so fast that unless they implement the two goal line referees as a standard practice, this will continue to happen. Unfortunate for Brazil, but then again what goes around comes around. Brazil has cheated plenty of times to advance.
You know what team cheats? Match fit blue paid the refs which is why Cedar Stars Newark didnt win.
6:33pmThinking a Cedar Stars player is still recovering from the EDP showcase.
PDA 2-0 over MF Black last night which is not a surprise. MF Black is now the "B" team of the U16 Boys at MF.
Any thoughts/info on the new ENPL boys league for next season?
SJEB lost 10-0 to Manhattan Villa yesterday
Wow! That is quite a score from the SJEB/Villa match!Manhattan Villa is a very good team and SJEB is not as good as some seem to think. But that is a crazy result regardless and has me wondering if there were a few Barons sent off.
11:53I doubt if there were players sent off. Let's assume there were..so it would have been 7-0 worst case scenario. SJEB is not a good team. Why is this so shocking! In all reality, most teams in NJ would have lost (not by that margin) NJ is simply mediocre compared to top teams in many states.
11:50"...most teams in NJ would have lost (not by that margin) NJ is simply mediocre compared to top teams in many states."Can't say I disagree. I doubt there's a team in NJ who could beat Manhattan Villa these days without a lot of good fortune. But as you have said yourself, not too many of the recognized NJ teams would lose by a 10-0 margin. So the fact that we agree about the overall mediocrity of top NJ teams, I think you'd have to agree that this is still a pretty shocking score line.I thought Chile would beat Mexico. But I was shocked by that 7-0 result as well. (Not to compare the quality of U16 soccer in NJ to International teams of course).
So why are you comparing a professional game to u16 soccer? Your point is?
3:18Maybe we should compare Pop Warner football and the NFL!
11:21"(Not to compare the quality of U16 soccer...)"I guess you didn't fare too well in Reading Comprehension.
Middletown Coyotes Red are really on the rise after picking up a few quality players this year. Finished 1st in Edp Maps elite central, won the EDP Cup and are beating top teams such as Arsenal Maximus Rage, Toms River Elite Newcastle. FC Gotschee. I could see them being ranked very good after next season.
9:25In the top 100?
Most likely he's coaching his son's "Rec" team..still not good for the kids.
What is the Regional tournament being played this week at PDA? What is the National Cup? The competition is lackluster at best. Why is Matchfit in every tournament?
Why are you so bothered that MF participate in so many tournaments?
"Get a life jerk. You are coaching kids? God help them! "A simple apology for being unable to read in context would have been sufficient.You're an imbecile.
you are the fool here. You are obviously a very aggressive person and you shouldn't be coaching children. Does it make yo feel good to rant like an idiot?
Of course as we talk about top teams in NJ being unable to compete against top sides from other states, Parsippany goes out and defeats GPS MA Elite (the number one team in Massachusetts) 3-0 today at the regional tournament at PDA. Oh the irony
You're an imbecile.
Just took a look at the teams playing at PDA this week. There are some pretty good ones there. GPS, NYSC, MF Black, TSF and Parsippany isn't a bad field at all.Surprised Rooney isn't playing at home.
Rooney start regionals in West Virginia on Thursday, so no surprise there
Okay. That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
How does TSF get the lucky draw of playing FC Copa Porto and NJ Arsenal?Both seem significantly weaker than TSF.
TSF won narrowly against FC Copa 2-1, the same difference they beat NYSC by. FC Copa was also unlucky to tie NJ Force as they deserved to win and had much more chances.
Is FC Copa a NJ team?
I'd say the new "Jekyll and Hyde" team is Parsippany. They beat a top flight GPS team 3-0 and then lose to CSA Newark the next day?
8:59And they will follow up with a dominating 3-1 win over MF Black tomorrow. Guaranteed.
Guaranteed!.....that's a laugh!
So much for 3-1 Parsipanny win over MF Black!MF wins 1-0 and should have been at least 2 or 3 more goals for MF.
Not sure what game you were watching. Match Fit escaped with a 1-0 victory. Their "2 or 3 more" were when Parsippany were playing 2 at the back and it was a 3v3 at midfield, but they never actually forced the Parsippany keepers to make a save in those situations. Credit to Match Fit for being able to withstand the relentless Parsippany pressure. I was talking to a college coach and he was just as befuddled as I was that Parsippany was losing despite being on the front foot the majority of the game.
You obviously have "selective viewing" and can see Parsipanny do no wrong. They were pressuring more the second half, because for some reason MF sat back and just defended. But you're wrong about the chances MF had. MF hit the post twice and another one the goalie saved off the line. Call it how it is.......Good even match.
Befuddled?!Parsipanny are overrated!They lost to Cedar Stars.....enough said.
Just a note about all results this week... Virtually none of them can be taken as valid, as the tournament takes place during the day on weekdays. The ridiculous design of this tournament epitomizes the "pay to play" aspect of club soccer. Whichever team has the most families that can afford to take off from work to get their kid to the game is going to win. Same goes for the kids, as many 16 yr olds have summer jobs to be at or even recruiting camps for that matter. I doubt that a single team is at 3/4 strength for this tournament let alone full strength.
"Parsipanny are overrated!"I wonder if GPS would agree with you? State Champs, coming off recent draws with Loudon and Manhattan Villa (and a 1-0 loss to TSF) in the top flight at Potomac might think a bit more of the team that just beat them 3-0 than you do.
Well if a team is at 3/4th strength and can still carry a full squad, they must have a massive roster. I watched many of the games this weekend, none of the teams were low on numbers. And results went more or less as expected, save a cedar stars victory over parsippany. And really, parents won't be able to take kids to the game cause they're at work? Where the heck do you come up with this stuff? Either the kid will get a ride, or the parent will take a day off in the unlikely scenario that are required to go to an office everyday. As for vacation, it's summer, of course some people will be on vacation. Teams deal with it, and a good team has depth, not just a great starting lineup.
How did Parsippany defeat GPS? GPS is a great team from what I remember when my son played them? Did Parsippany have nice goals?
Gps is a select team that add new players for certain tournaments the team they brought here is completely different from the team that played in Potomac.
Good news for Jersey's ability to compete with top out of state teams at the US Club Regionals with MFB and TSF making the finals tomorrow with GPS and MSC both falling in the semis!Nice job by MFB and TSF and may the best team (who has a budget to travel to CO) win!
"Gps is a select team that add new players for certain tournaments the team they brought here is completely different from the team that played in Potomac."This is the kind of stuff that makes this board disappointing all too frequently. Like this clown has any real knowledge of who GPS brought for this event.Just make it up and see who'll believe it, right pal?
No not right at all pal. I actually played against gps at Potomac and there whole defense which had 2 6 footers were not there and there number 10 who was an exceptional player was not there while kids who did not get in at all in Potomac were playing the whole game but hey your probably right if parsippany was such an impressive team they would not lose to a team like cedar stars PAL
I am tired of a Parsippany parent constantly defending their son's glorified town team. Yes, you are a good team. Move on and enjoy your summer & stop venting your frustration on this blog.
Can't you all just stop bashing each other?GPS had 90% of their team there with the exception of a pair of twins who supposedly are phenomenal.I sat with their parents today and they admitted they were simply outplayed by MF and Parsippany.The fact that both MF and Parsippany both beat GPS 3-0 and then competed closely for a MF 1-0 win, just confirms that they are both quality teams who can compete and beat teams outside NJ.
How can u compare parsippany to matchfit what has parsippany done this year come 2nd in npl
"How can u compare parsippany to matchfit..."Not that this is my fight, but I'd say going to penalties in the NJ Cup might be a place to start.
MF Black beat TSF 2-0 and qualify for nationals. TSF played a great tough match with 10 men after they're receive a red card early in the second half.
TSF player deservedly received a red card for being the last man an pulling down a MF player on a breakaway.Before the red card, the match was pretty even with possession being held mostly at midfield.Well done by both teams to make it to the finals.
Unfortunately, as good as a team that TSF may be..They will always suffer the curse of never winning a state cup or Mid Atlantic Regional Championship.
Why are they cursed?
Once again TSF prove they are ruthless hoodlums along with their loud mouth parents.One parent heckling a MF player during the game claiming he took a dive.At the end of the match a TSF player punches a MF player in the face.Well done TSF....way to confirm who you really are.
"At the end of the match a TSF player punches a MF player in the face."You never know if you should believe what you read here. All right, some times you know you shouldn't believe it. But this one sounds like a 50-50 to me.
It was an overall chippy game from both team not just tsf or mf. Tsf controlled the game with possession but once the early red card came they struggled to play with 10 men. After that they still managed to maintain a great amount of possession.
1:49"You never know if you should believe what you read here All right sometimes you know you shouldn't believe it, But this one sounds like a 50-50 to me"You are in denial..I hate to break ithe news to you. There is no 50-50 here. They say a picture says 1,000 words. Well, how about an unedited videotape? #11 on TSF clearly punched the MF player in the face. When the kid was on the ground, 2 other players on TSF joined in the fun. Classy group of kids there. You are model parents.After the MF player got up, he simply walked away.What does that tell you about TSF & Matchfit?The club definitely showed their true colors yesterday. I hope the kid's parents and TSF are proud of their son and the player that represents them. There is no place for this in youth sports. Unfortunately, poor parenting = Bad Kid
Red card came early in the second half, not early in the game.Possession was even throughout the entire game even before the red card. However, at the end of the game MF did sit back and defended more than I would have expected. Teams usually use this tactic to counter the opponent.All in all a good match with the exception of the end of game brawl.
I agree with the recap minus the last sentence.How is a Matchfit player getting punched in the face w/ 2 of his teammates hitting him while he is on the ground with the player on MF walking away a champion?The POS on TSF showed the State of New Jersey the type of player that plays for TSF. Unfortunately, for #11, this was not an isolated incident.Take the loss like big boys and enjoy the rest of your summer. I strongly suggest that you take lessons on effective parenting. Some of your boys would definitely benefit from it.
Your right tsf are bad and matchfit were angels while there coach told a player to hit #7 on tsf but targeting isn't s big deal in my opinion either when tsf best matchfit I don't remember them bashing matchfit it was just a chippy game nothing else. If there was no red card tsf would have probably won
if...if...if....MF's coach never instructed any player to hit another.....so not sure what world of make believe you live in.In fact, the MF players got in trouble with their coaches for even taking part in the brawl.I'm sure it was somehow instigated and by no means do I believe that the MF player was not involved, but to start throwing punches is uncalled for.Also, it was a "chippy" match, but not sure it was certain that TSF would have won if they did not get that red card.
Tsf player deserved the red. TSF coaches teach their players to play dirty. DOC is an ego maniac who wants to win youth games at all costs. He encourages bad behavior and calls it passion.
How are you guys so confident in everything you say it's actually so sick. It was heard by half the player on the sideline of the players that the coach said keep hitting #7 while we are not told at all too play dirty you have nothing better to bash a u16 boys soccer team dude get a life your probably gonna say we're sore losers or bad kids but it's actually fucked were kids trying to have fun and if you knew what the matchfit kids were saying and doing it be a different story. To say TSF parents r pathetic I think there were 5 parents there we had 2 cars with 7 kids each and we had 16 kids there so wasn't to many parents there. It's just sick and now that the season is over I feel bad as you guys have nothing better to do but call out young kids anonomously. I wish you would just say it to our face. We are no scumbags or told to hit kids were a group of kids who would take a bullet for anyone else on our team no matter what and to say that tsf sucked and shit is bullshit cause that game was as even as ever until that red card which just because one parent said it was a red card doesn't mean it was cause that was certainly not from my opinion
The five parents that were there should have been ejected from the field, Cursing at opposing players. Ref just staring at them. Probably part of the reason he gave your player a red.
See dude it was both ways my man I was being yelled at too that happens in almost every soccer game at this age I think u need to tell ur kids to grow a pair then there 16 not 6.
You all have to stop going back and forth trying to "one up each other".Many of the comments made on this blog are embellished just to get a rise from the other side.I have no part in this TSF Matchfit feud, as I was simply enjoying a nice day with good teams playing in the finals, but from what I saw, it was a good even match between TSF and MF.Isn't that what we want for these boys? Good even competition versus 10-0 blowouts?Just accept that there will be winners and losers on any given day between the top ranked teams in NJ and call it a day.Last match between TSF and MF was a 1-0 TSF win, this time it was a 2-) MF win.........next time...who knows?!....too close to call.
That's exactly what I'm saying matchfit won but to say tsf are bad people that's not fair to us.
And TSF lost graciously!
MF parent:Why continue the dialogue w/ a clueless 16yr old in denial? This isn't about instigating, red cards, etc. All I have seen from the previous posts are excuses. How many yellow/red cards did MF receive yesterday? Why not blame it on the refs? If TSF are angels how do you justify your teammate #11 (without mentioning names) leveling another player? There is a recording of the incident available to recruiters by request only. What action TSF takes will clearly define them as a club? Someone could have been injured badly. There is no place in youth soccer for this type of behavior.
Things got heated and parents started defending their kids.....nothing out of the ordinary.Parents were yelling at each other, but not out of control. What I did find odd is that a TSF mom was ripping into a TSF dad because in his attempt to control the TSF crowd, he spoke to her young teenage daughter. That lady was cursing up a storm and nearly hit the TSF dad......strange given they are from the same team.The game was not dirty at all, just very physical as is usual with any tough match ups.
Your goin to send a video of a kid leveling another kid to recruiters
TSF parents were absolutely out of control. They always are when their team is losing yet TSF does nothing to address it. Not just a simple case of parents defending their kids.
Unbelievable that TSF coaches are defending their club's bad behavior. Great example for the boys.
Out of control your about to send a video to recruiters to get kids on tsf not recruited
There's a pattern forming here....Why is it this type of behavior is only posted for TSF games.I wasn't there, but to me, there seems to be some truth about the bad behavior on the TSF end (parents and players).Two or three occurrences can't just be a coincidence......it's just bad behavior during and after games they lose......period.Win with grace...lose with grace.
5:01Thank you for that..you are just as clueless..please refer to the following form a player on TSF (or someone impersonating a TSF player)12:12"Your goin to send a video of a kid leveling another kid to recruiters"Really? There is video of #11 on TSF decking a kid from MF after the game. 2 players on TSF are seen hitting the kid while he is on the ground. How is this an exaggeration?This was not a fight..the player on MF walked away a winner. He did not fight back.This is a pattern especially for #11. From the Stallions to TSF
Just a comment from an outsider about the supposed direction of the match fit coach stated "go after number 7". I was not at the game or anything, but if it is true that something like this was said after number 7 received a yellow card, it cannot be assumed that he meant for match fit players to attempt to injure number 7. It is common tactics to try and take on players that recently got a yellow card because they have to be careful with their tackles to ensure they don't get a second yellow. On top of this, it is a common phrase to say "go at him" or "go after him" when a coach is trying to get his player to take the opponent one v one. With this extremely viable alternative, I highly doubt that the Match Fit coach explicitly told his players to attempt to injure number 7 on TSF
5:01PM poster is definitely exaggerating....Did you hear or did you see?Anyone who has been following this age bracket for the last few years knows that the MF coach is a straight up nice guy who doesn't say a peep on the sideline.Not sure how you heard that coming from the coach explicitly.And to say that 10 TSF boys kept possession against the 11 MF players is accurate....however, only after they scored the second goal and MF changed their tactic to hold on to that lead.It's called soccer smarts\tactics.....
Okay, hopefully the dust has settled with MFC and TSF. Back to business. Is this National XV Cup in Colorado worth going to? Is it only worth it if you are in the top bracket? Not to mention the cost of getting out there and lodging etc. Any thoughts?
yes...let's give it a break.Great question.....not sure how this all works, but I think Logan Blackjack gets to go to Colorado as well, since they won their Premier bracket.Do they play in a lower bracket at Nationals as well?
In other words, TSF didn't want to go anyway
National Cup XV "Do they play in a lower bracket at Nationals as well?" No, but I did see that Logan won their bracket though. I just heard that this Cup isn't what it used to be and was just wondering if it was worth the trip
"You are in denial..I hate to break ithe news to you."I'm in "denial?" Denial of what?I didn't see the match. But after reading the initial claim there had been punches thrown at the end of it, I merely commented that I wasn't sure if this was true or not and expressed my guess that the chances of this being true were about 50-50 based on the quality of posts on this board.Some people struggle mightily with reading comprehension around here though. That's 100-0!
After reading these back and forths of what transpired after the TSF game, one post by a TSF Player, Parent or impersonator stood out..July 1.2016 at 12:12pm"Your goin to send a video of a kid leveling another kid to recruiters"Is this an admission of guilt? It sounds like one to me.Maybe there is some merit behind this being an ongoing problem with TSF. Way to go parents..you should be very proud of your boys..
I don't understand how someone could say that the Matchfit coach did not say "hit number 7" when I was on the sideline myself and actually heard it with my own ears. The fight at the end of the game is not excusable, however you cannot say that TSF was the only chippy team in this game. The TSF coach was very upset when the Matchfit coach said to hurt number 7 and both coaches had to be calmed down by a moderator on the sideline. The past two matchups between these teams had wins for TSF 3-0 and 1-0. This time it was a Matchfit win of 2-0 so it is obviously a very even matchup and will continue to be in the coming years.
Duh....of course they were your own ears!Not like you can hear it with someone else's ears!
"Duh....of course they were your own ears!Not like you can hear it with someone else's ears!"I wouldn't have believed this had I been reading it with someone else's eyes.
Saying you saw or heard something with you own eyes or ears is a widely used way to stress that you're not repeating hearsay. That you are reporting something that you experienced yourself. There are enough problems with this board. So taking someone to task for employing common use of language is useless.Then again, uselessness fits in well here.
Obviously, there are some very talented NPL teams—especially some of the teams in the NPL finals which takes place a week before the National Cup. But the quality of the teams in National Cup is spotty at best. I realize that the NJ Cup (the National Cup qualifier won by SJEB) actually had a stronger field than the official USYS NJ State Cup (won by PDA), but from what I've seen, most teams think of the National Cup as a consolation tournament, and the Mid Atlantic Regional as the "fake regional." Who would participate in this over the USYSY Region 1 Championships?http://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2016-Region-I-Championships/Schedule/U16-Boys/Division+1/Sure, Manhattan Villa and Marin are top notch teams that will be in Colorado, but so will the mighty Hawaii Rush who gets pummeled every year, and many other regional teams that seem less than worthy. Why a titan like Villa doesn't have a path to the NPL finals is beyond me, and as someone queried earlier, I think traveling to Colorado for anything less than the Super Group is a questionable investment of time and money. Not saying I wouldn't do it, but like President's Cup, it would be hard to get enthused bout a B Team tournament—even a National one.I like the US Club philosophy, but most quality teams in the East and the Midwest will choose the USYS National Championship series first and settle on the US Club regionals/nationals as a fallback.
I agree with you about NPL and USYS. One correction: While Manhattan Villa is listed as a National Cup qualifier, they are indeed playing in the NPL finals. The spot in the other tournament will likely go to somebody else.http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/schedules/2016/81785165.htmlSome really good teams, but I agree that the strength from top to bottom will be better in TX than in CO. And the National Cup is quite a step down from that.
Shouldnt even be a Presidents Level statewide. Put them all in one bracket and see who wins. No need to go to Colorado for the President cup level, all teams suck.
" I think traveling to Colorado for anything less than the Super Group is a questionable investment of time and money. Not saying I wouldn't do it, but like President's Cup, it would be hard to get enthused bout a B Team tournament—even a National one"Agreed. I have no idea why a team would spend that type of money to go as a second tier team. I know I sound like a sore loser, but the teams in the Premier Group were in it for an easy ticket to Colorado. I am sure they could have found other ways to spend that kind of money, what a joke. Good Luck!
Kind of sound "Soar"
you dont sound wrong at all. 2nd tier at u16 is a joke.
3.42A "B" tournament? What do you call an "A" tournament? Every team there had to qualify. As far as expense goes, every out of state tournament is a big expense. I'm sure if your team qualified you would be going
If you are not playing the best why go at all. Nobody remembers any team that wins the Football League Championship. In case you didn't know that is the league below the British Premier League. Plus, what college recruiter is going to watch the 2nd flight?
Why go to any tournament unless you're in the first flight? College recruiters are interested in all good players. You must be a tsf coach comparing professional soccer to youth soccer again.
"You must be a tsf coach comparing professional soccer to youth soccer again. "I'll give you credit for one thing as you're a consistent imbecile.
All I am saying it looks like there were lower ranked teams in the Super Group than some teams in the Premier Group. Example Porto, STA and Arsenal were ranked lower than some teams in the Premier Group. They challenged themselves versus go for the easy win. Like someone mentioned before "Easy Ticket"
TSF tries twice to qualify and now wants eveyone to believe they didn't want to go to Colorado to waste time and money? Sounds reasonable.
College coaches will tell you that it is much easier to identify a recruit from a top tier team then find someone who looks good against questionable competition. College coaches want the player that has been challenged and has had success against top ranked teams. They all will tell you that if given the choice they will take the player on a top ranked team every time. (of course assuming they are playing and performing)
Although they can sometimes deserve the abuse they receive, TSF seems to get a lot of crap even when they have nothing to do with the situation!
No one targets TSF purposely!They call it upon themselves, based on the actions of their players and parents.Don't make TSF out to be the victim here.They are a good and tough team, but they are out of control when they are losing or lose.No excuses for anyone throwing punches during or after a game.
Sometimes, just sometimes, people deserve to be punched.
You think that's an excuse to assault someone? I'm not a fan of your coaches, parents, players, management. Every coach I had any respect for has left that club.
Grow up, they are kids. Kids have emotions and they dont know how to control them. They do to others that adults think about doing but have the self control not too
Except in this case the adults are telling them it's okay to act like that. You're a good influence on kids!
"My recruiting key -- I looked for PEOPLE first, athletes second. I wanted people with a sound value system as you cannot buy values. You're only as good as your values. I learned early on that you do not put greatness into people...but somehow try to pull it out."- Herb BrooksWhy is this relevant?If college coaches follow this philosophy, TSF wouldn't be on their radar.
No one cares about hockey Boomer.
8:01Well said..But I think TSF is getting a bad rap by being singled out for poor behavior by both players & parents. Every team, has a few parents/players that display poor behavior. No team is innocent. These posts bashing TSF need to stop. It is counter productive.
True, but TSF was, is and will be over the top. That is who they are.
3:13And then you woke up..Everyone knows what The Sports Factory is all about..and it is not good.What do you actually get for $3,200+?All the money in the world can't buy class..which is something that you and a good handful of parents don't have. It is so sad!
SJEB lose both their games 3-0. Way to represent NJ!
Matchfit Black win US Club National title. Beat several tough teams to take the cup to NJ.
Congratulations to MF Black.Great job!
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