Thursday, March 19, 2015

U16G Soccer in PA, NJ, MD, VA & NY

Note: These high school women at age 16 are no joke. Many are looking ahead to college soccer play. They tell their stories here.

125 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jeff cup brackets... Lot's of surprises from some Top Rated NJ teams. What gives?

Anonymous said...

i'll bite, surprises how?

Anonymous said...

Surprised as to how PDA Blues made the second flight? Seriously?

Anonymous said...

JU / Copa / NJ Wildcats / Matchfit NPL all pretty surprising placements. Are the groupings based on past performances? Where is Matchfit ECNL or STA ?

Anonymous said...

5:31pm. Doubt it's based on past performances as teams like Blues are placed far too high.

Anonymous said...

JU and Copa are ranked too low. Both should be in at least 2nd flight. Blues ranked way too high. Should be in 3rd or 4th flight. Wildcats and MF are appropriately flighted. Remember, MF is NOT the same MF. It's the north team that took over the NPL title and they were low in GS rankings.

Anonymous said...

Blues are where they belong, PDA name pulls weight. Want to be ssen?

Anonymous said...

Haha Blues are where they belong? Seriously?? We'll come back to that comment after they get smashed down at Jeff Cup against far superior competition.

Anonymous said...

Not the point. The point is to be seen and PDA offers that.

Anonymous said...

The point is to be seen in a competitive environment. Do you think a coach will sit and watch a poor team play regardless of the name? Shows how little you know about how College Coaches work.

Anonymous said...

10:43/9:00 what do you know please tell?

PDA Blues will def. be challenged at Jeff Cup. Is that a bad thing? Its about development people! Blues are trying to get better as a team and individual players. Yes, 1043 college coaches will watch them and opponent so you're wrong. Anyway, you get better by playing stronger teams and that is what's going to take place at Jeff Cup. PDA is preparing players for college, its not all about this event, the vision is larger then your peanut brain.

JU/Coppa/ have a good case to be moved to higher flight, however I bet my mortgage payment the coach wont act on it. They will stay in lower flight to chase gotsoccer points!!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for clearing that up john.

Anonymous said...

It's not about chasing the GS points, per se, but the higher you are ranked in GS is supposed to help with what tournaments you get accepted to and what flight you are placed in. This is why is makes NO SENSE that PDA Blues are flighted higher than both FC Copa and JU. The almighty PDA name shouldn't be the deciding factor when clearly the team hasn't earned the right to be placed that high.

A previous poster hit the nail on the head. So the girls can play against better competition and supposedly up their individual games, but the college coaches will not be impressed by their lack of skill and their getting crushed by much better competition. If they want to embarrass themselves, let them.

Anonymous said...

BUT PDA does carry that weight AND how do you know they will "get crushed" and "embarrass" themselves? Do you know the team, who they added, how they trained, how they have grown?

Anonymous said...

Same players, different team.

Anonymous said...

Who? Blues? You are wrong if that is your point.

Anonymous said...

End of the day what is the point in playing in tournaments/leagues, doing well and therefore improving your ranking and then getting misflighted due to the short sightedness of tournament directors placing PDA teams higher just because they are PDA.

Look at Blues/Impact records and name a worthwhile tournament either have won or made the Final in the past year?

Impact have a better chance of an encouraging showing down at Jeff Cup than Blues have. And yes i am familiar with the level of players they have brought on board, and they aren't at the same level as the teams currently ranked top 7 in the State (below).

PDA ECNL
JU
STA
NJ Rush
MF ECNL
Copa
NJ Crush

Anonymous said...

3:06
You are a funny character! You really think those coaches that are misflighted are complaining to the TD!?, NOPE!! So it's not the TD's fault or PDA's influence, nice try. Some coaches request lower flights. I bet your JU, gotsoccer chaser and Coppa gotsoccer chaser, are happy where they are.

NJ has some good teams that are too close to tell until they physically play each other which has not happened in certain situations.Teams have played similar competitions and based on that all you can do is tier the teams in NJ.

PDA ECNL 4- JU 0
STA 0 - JU-0
PDA Impact 2- STA 1
JU 0 - MLU 1
PDA ECNL 1 - NJ Crush 0
JU-0- NJ Crush 3
NJ Rush 3- NJ Crush 2
FC Coppa0- World Class ECNL 3
PDA Impact 1- World Class ECNL 1


Tier 1-PDA ECNL
Tier 2-MatchFit ECNL
Tier 3-NJ Rush, PDA Impact, NJ Crush
Tier 4- STA,Copa, JU
Tier 5 The rest of NJ

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Anonymous said...

you also have to look at how many events they attended to get their GS ranking. Coppa and JU(i think it was) have 13 to Impacts 7. Impact also has a much higher win % than both with half the events playing mostly top 10 state teams.

Anonymous said...

This top 10 in the state stuff doesnt matter anymore. Top 10 in the region, now that matters. To be ranked #7 in the state really isnt that good anymore.

Anonymous said...

Ranked by who? Gotsoccer? Topdrawer? Soccerwire? Which one really matters? Right now it's all about Showcasing. Nobody should be getting points or rankings at all anymore; starting at u15.

Anonymous said...

Said the team that isn't ranked high. You need to have some order when making tournament brackets, rankings help.

Anonymous said...

Says the team who is only ranked high because they do every mediocre tournament under the sun.

Anonymous said...

Shows what you dont know. Top ranked teams that play in mediocre tournaments get very little to no points. They go in as the highest ranked team and it does nothing for them (regarding points)

Anonymous said...

Not when you get mediocre points over and and over again; it adds up. Then you are a mediocre team sitting at the top and when you start playing top competition, you fall. I've seen one particular team in NJ do this time and time again over the years.

Anonymous said...

Wrong again. The more mediocre flights you play in and win the less points you get for the victories. Your thought process is flawed.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. 1000 points here, 800 points there... It adds up. So this mediocre team gets to 15,000 from doing 8 tournaments plus EDP league who hands out points for showing up. While, for example, PDA OR gets the same points by doing two tourneys and one league. I agree with 8:20pm.

Anonymous said...

When did Rush take over Jet?

Anonymous said...

7:01 stop being so cryptic. Which team are you bashing now?

Anonymous said...

7:01, you just dont get it. If you have a lot of points you will NEVER gain points by playing inferior competition. Your example just doesn't work.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup schedules are out.

Anonymous said...

Are the fields clean?

Anonymous said...

seriously? ur asking a month+ before the tournament if the fields are clean?

Anonymous said...

Well, are they?

Anonymous said...

Manhattan Tournament canceled for this weekend. Snow covered fields and frigid temps.

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats actually got games in this weekend I heard...Won Saturday EDP 2-0 over North Union United, PA and tied NJ Rush 0-0. How did they play this weekend and kudos for getting out there this weekend...

Anonymous said...

It had to be indoors, no? What fields are not snow covered, even turf. It's all frozen.

Anonymous said...

You heard did you? Was it cold?

Anonymous said...

have a friend in NH whose son plays lacrosse. they are practicing on turf. you do what you have to do.

Anonymous said...

Is the crew playing in the spring challenge this weekend ?

Anonymous said...

LOL, so interested, why not find out for yourself?

Anonymous said...

I heard the crew didn't want to play the wildcats so they backed out of the tournament

Anonymous said...

it's good to see the trolls are alive and well. snow isn't bothering them. LOL

Anonymous said...

"FC Copa will manage the official Sky Blue FC Reserve Team U23 and U20 teams in a co-branded agreement which will play a season concurrently with the full professional side." For real?????

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone is playing is a spring challenge this weekend.

Why are the Wildcats afraid of anyone ?

Anonymous said...

Who said the Wildcats were afraid of anyone? Did I miss something?

Anonymous said...

you have it backwards.....troll post suggested that crew pulled out of SC because they didn't want to play wildcats.

Anonymous said...

Monmouth Ocean co rankings

1 wildcats
2 sting
3 shore magic
4 the crewwwwww

Anonymous said...

Monmouth/Ocean county rankings??????????????????????? You are a joke.

Anonymous said...

OMG, too funny!

you really need to get a hobby of your own.

Anonymous said...

i find it funny you are ranking a team that has never played any of the others.

Anonymous said...

I find it funny that you are ranking teams that are ok at best.

Anonymous said...

I find it sad and funny that some wildcat mom or dad needs so badly to promote the team and bring unnecessary and negative attention to their daughter's soccer team and club. And at the same time grind whatever ax they have to grind with sj crew. Your girls are growing up. Its about time you did too. Does big Kev promote this nonsense? Erin go braugh.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why a parent on any team would want to promote this nonsense. The Wildcats team is a nice group of girls that get along well on and off the field. The girls are playing competitive ball and neither their coach or club owner would approve of such a post. Let's not talk negatively about any team and ignore responding to such posts. Let's just enjoy watching our kids enjoy the sport.

Anonymous said...

Is Rage Premier Magic still the same team or did they change when they merged with NJ Rush?

Anonymous said...

Any surprises at Jeff Cup?

Anonymous said...


O'Reilly win 2-1

JU loses 2-0
CRUSH tie 1-1
COPA win 1-0
Impact loses 3-1

Anonymous said...

Blues lose
Magic wins
SJA lose
Wildcats lose

Anonymous said...

So, No surprises

Anonymous said...

Surprised your not here

Anonymous said...

O'Really get it

Anonymous said...

only 2 teams survived at Jeff Cup.

Anonymous said...

Which ones? I saw a lot of NJ teams in the top 4 of 12 team brackets. I would say that's pretty good.

How will points be awarded? Not that it matters at this point but I'm just curious.

Anonymous said...

This is a SHOWCASE you morons...who gives a crap about wins and losses except a few of you losers. Get a life and get a clue!!! There were coaches everywhere at all locations. Great exposure for all of these kids. Kids who work hard in school and work hard on the field. Good for them! I wish them all luck.

Anonymous said...

Who cares about wins? How about the coaches. If they didnt care about wins why wouldnt they play everyone equal minutes? Why wouldnt they start different players?

Anonymous said...

Moron here...yes, this was a showcase event but every 12 team flight had a winner, finalist and two semi-finalists and there were thousands of points on the line. Showcase events are not meaningless in terms of rankings..but, what do I know, I'm just a moron.

Anonymous said...

Yes poster, your daughter is going to UVA!!!

Anonymous said...

SJA no longer on EDP schedule?
Anyone know why?

Anonymous said...

I guess the crewww thinks that their too good for EDP!!!

Anonymous said...

I am sure they are looking for points elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

MF tryouts announced. MF or PDA, horrible choices in this age group but where else to go? Just received another email from PDA about their "optional" training sessions. Oh, bring a check. All is well though, all the teams get placed in the top 15 flights. At least you know the team will be there, MF teams come and go as quickly as the players do. All about the money for all of these clubs and coaches.

Anonymous said...

while i would love to see the town teams survive and compete, very few do. it has just become a fact.

i also agree that people deserve to be paid for their expertise and time. i would expect it and i am sure you would too. does it have to be so expensive?

MF was the biggest waste of money. i could throw out the laundry list but there is no point. if your daughter is serious, choose PDA.

Anonymous said...

3 years ago the crew coach was singing the praises of matchfit and bad mouthing the tr fusion coach. Now he is bad mouthing matchfit and he hired the ex tr fusion coach for his u15 team ---- unbelievable

Anonymous said...

LOl

Anonymous said...

You hit the nail on the head 9:03! Just goes to show what kiss a**es and fake coaches there are out there. What suits THEM at the moment. Can't trust most of them...

Anonymous said...

And the fields..... Too much snow, too much rain, Club closed the fields. No games, re-doing scheduling. No practice b/c of the wind.....
Lots of money thrown at keeping up the incredible fields that we can not play on. They look great, and the few times they allow us the privilege to actually get on them and play is wonderful. But at what costs??

Devit lol

Anonymous said...

Whose fields are we talking about? Matchfit's Holmdel fields?

Good team.

Anonymous said...

if you are talking about Holmdel, they have a U16 team?

Anonymous said...

Two of NJ's "top 3 ranked" teams in a battle for last place down at MSSL college showcase this weekend. Making NJ proud.

Anonymous said...

I'm not with either team but was at the tournament. Many teams were missing players due to injury or spring break vacations. The 2 teams you referenced 4:13, also played against good teams including each other.

Anonymous said...

Torrential rain on the Friday and constant heavy winds on the Saturday. I didn't see any team play any form of soccer.

Anonymous said...

TOP 5 teams don't make excuses, they overcome.

Anonymous said...

8:31am is a motivational speaker on the side

Anonymous said...

Torrential rain and constant heavy winds only effect Top 5 teams, but not the Alleycats.

Anonymous said...

Torrential rain? Must have happened after 2:00. No rain in the am and only showers around noon . Sat wind was ridiculous! Very hard to play any kind of decent soccer.

Anonymous said...

True - "Sat wind was ridiculous!" but that only disturbs long ball / kick and run teams. Good teams, at a minimum any "top 5" should know how to pass the ball on the ground.

Anonymous said...

it started raining friday about 11am. steady at time but i don't remember it ever being torrential.

agree the wind on saturday was ridiculous.

disagree it only affected kick n run teams. i'd bet all teams had free kicks, corner kicks and punts but i could be wrong.

Anonymous said...

watched a corner kick stop dead in the air and fall back towards where it came from. gusts up to 36 mph.

Anonymous said...

shouldnt be taking a corner in the air in that type of wind. Bad player or coach.

Anonymous said...

LOL they are kids, not perfect like you

Anonymous said...

Kids not properly trained.

Anonymous said...

Fields looked OK at MSSL this weekend but they were really very slippery as the grass is still dormant. Footing was definitely an issue in the rain for Friday. Wind was tough Saturday but as the previous poster said, any team that can play the ball on the ground was not affected. Cross winds neutralized the effect for some fields, and others were equalized as both teams get to with and against the wind. Everyone had a fair shake so no one can bitch.

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Anonymous said...

Bitter why. They are not a good team

Anonymous said...

How do you know what he has said to others, 11:14? Are you with him 24/7?

Anonymous said...

The crew coach is out for himself and speaking of his own kid, what is she doing , working at ocean county mall

Anonymous said...

I thought NJ Rush Blue took over Jet Cobra but I see they both have different rosters. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Anonymous said...

not an SJA fan here but don't you have better things to do than trash on an 18 year old girl?

grow up

Anonymous said...

Wow I just read this whole blog and cannot believe how poorly people are speaking of 16 year old girls. PDA, Crew, whoever.... when you get down to it, these are just young women wanting to get better at soccer and playing their hearts out. Would you want someone speaking about your daughter that way? We have really lost sight of what is important in this world.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the good spirit in this thread, 2:08. I'm a soccer mom at the mercy of a kid who adores the game and I'm just along for the ride with her. In New Jersey there are a gazillion clubs but only so many hours in the day; you have to do what works for you as a family.

Anonymous said...

Cry me a river

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Anonymous said...

New ECNL Club in Baltimore ?
Baltimore Bays and SAC Combine and are given new ECNL. 3 more clubs in R1 to get ECNL.
ENCL here ECNL there anywhere/everywhere ECNL

Anonymous said...

I actually heard it is a Pipeline and SAC combine. Who are the other clubs..

Anonymous said...

SAC is a great club already. Not sure what they get for all the extra fees. u17's have 12 commits and u16's have many commits already to Rutgers, MD, Towson and a couple to Johns Hopkins.

And they do keep rosters down to a manageable 18 or so it seems.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know whats going on with the rush programs.

Anonymous said...

Within a few more years, top level independent teams will cease to exist in areas where ECNL has an established presence.

Anonymous said...

10:00 How do you figure? Not every team can be in ECNL. There will still be a place for other top teams.

Anonymous said...

@9:50pm

the Tigers are leaving him for better training.

Anonymous said...

You hear that Mr. DOC? looks like you'll have your Highland team back in no time.

Anonymous said...

Need help...please...child made MF and Copa..best one?

Anonymous said...

run from MF

Anonymous said...

Reasons? I'm not looking to be a buster. I read the above comments. I just need help bc I don't understand everything in depth.

Anonymous said...

MF DOC could care less. calls parent meeting and never shows up. no apology, no nuthin. then when i was told he would call me to speak about a different concern...i am still waiting.

i am still waiting for apparel i ordered 2 and 3 (?) years ago? two separate orders. you can only send so many emails before you give up.

there was no player or team growth at all. that was the main reason she left. i don't mind paying if i see results (no, doesn't have to = wins). seen a TON of improvement in current team. plenty of room for more. club way more organized.

in April, coach couldn't remember that he had not rostered a player EVER for a league or tournament game. i guess 25 is too big of a number? not my kid but i still think it is a problem.

MF took 3 players money and then told then they were only training players. the left so they could actually play. if the skill level drops off that much from #20 to #25 then DON'T TAKE THEM.

have a friend whose daughter is on COPA. last we spoke she was very happy with everything.

nothing is perfect.


Anonymous said...

I am new to EDP. My daughter has never played in this league before.

Is a Coach allowed to change the field on game day just because he prefers one over another? (turf/grass)

Are they allowed to use guest players from another team at the same club? At the start of the game I overheard the parents saying one player was helping them out and later at the start of the 2nd half I heard a different group of parents talking and it seems there was more than one player from another team.

Anonymous said...

Cops over MF

Anonymous said...

Lol! Copa not cops!

Anonymous said...

Why?

Anonymous said...

It depends on which MF team your daughter was accepted. If it was ECNL maybe good. If not, don't accept a spot and move on. (other teams aren't good and the club could care less about any team other than ECNL and I KNOW THIS from past experience). I say maybe good if she made ECNL because MAYBE your kid will get playing time. They can and do roster up to 30. Previous poster stated other facts about the club as well. I would run as far away from MF as possible. Very unprofessionally run and the DOC thinks he's a dictator loudly demanding that this and that should be, but he has absolutely no integrity. Hope this helps.

Anonymous said...

@10:40
Can't thank you enough.

Anonymous said...

TRENDING -- MLU FLASH

Anonymous said...

ur point about ML?

Anonymous said...

Looks like NJ Cup and NJYS State Cup Semis are all set. Any predictions?

NJ Cup
STA v SJEB
Copa v JU

NJYS State Cup
STA v Crush
Copa v NJ Rush

Anonymous said...

Copa v STA. Copa win.