Jeff cup brackets... Lot's of surprises from some Top Rated NJ teams. What gives?
i'll bite, surprises how?
Surprised as to how PDA Blues made the second flight? Seriously?
JU / Copa / NJ Wildcats / Matchfit NPL all pretty surprising placements. Are the groupings based on past performances? Where is Matchfit ECNL or STA ?
5:31pm. Doubt it's based on past performances as teams like Blues are placed far too high.
JU and Copa are ranked too low. Both should be in at least 2nd flight. Blues ranked way too high. Should be in 3rd or 4th flight. Wildcats and MF are appropriately flighted. Remember, MF is NOT the same MF. It's the north team that took over the NPL title and they were low in GS rankings.
Blues are where they belong, PDA name pulls weight. Want to be ssen?
Haha Blues are where they belong? Seriously?? We'll come back to that comment after they get smashed down at Jeff Cup against far superior competition.
Not the point. The point is to be seen and PDA offers that.
The point is to be seen in a competitive environment. Do you think a coach will sit and watch a poor team play regardless of the name? Shows how little you know about how College Coaches work.
10:43/9:00 what do you know please tell?PDA Blues will def. be challenged at Jeff Cup. Is that a bad thing? Its about development people! Blues are trying to get better as a team and individual players. Yes, 1043 college coaches will watch them and opponent so you're wrong. Anyway, you get better by playing stronger teams and that is what's going to take place at Jeff Cup. PDA is preparing players for college, its not all about this event, the vision is larger then your peanut brain.JU/Coppa/ have a good case to be moved to higher flight, however I bet my mortgage payment the coach wont act on it. They will stay in lower flight to chase gotsoccer points!!
Thanks for clearing that up john.
It's not about chasing the GS points, per se, but the higher you are ranked in GS is supposed to help with what tournaments you get accepted to and what flight you are placed in. This is why is makes NO SENSE that PDA Blues are flighted higher than both FC Copa and JU. The almighty PDA name shouldn't be the deciding factor when clearly the team hasn't earned the right to be placed that high. A previous poster hit the nail on the head. So the girls can play against better competition and supposedly up their individual games, but the college coaches will not be impressed by their lack of skill and their getting crushed by much better competition. If they want to embarrass themselves, let them.
BUT PDA does carry that weight AND how do you know they will "get crushed" and "embarrass" themselves? Do you know the team, who they added, how they trained, how they have grown?
Same players, different team.
Who? Blues? You are wrong if that is your point.
End of the day what is the point in playing in tournaments/leagues, doing well and therefore improving your ranking and then getting misflighted due to the short sightedness of tournament directors placing PDA teams higher just because they are PDA.Look at Blues/Impact records and name a worthwhile tournament either have won or made the Final in the past year?Impact have a better chance of an encouraging showing down at Jeff Cup than Blues have. And yes i am familiar with the level of players they have brought on board, and they aren't at the same level as the teams currently ranked top 7 in the State (below).PDA ECNLJUSTANJ RushMF ECNLCopaNJ Crush
3:06You are a funny character! You really think those coaches that are misflighted are complaining to the TD!?, NOPE!! So it's not the TD's fault or PDA's influence, nice try. Some coaches request lower flights. I bet your JU, gotsoccer chaser and Coppa gotsoccer chaser, are happy where they are.NJ has some good teams that are too close to tell until they physically play each other which has not happened in certain situations.Teams have played similar competitions and based on that all you can do is tier the teams in NJ.PDA ECNL 4- JU 0STA 0 - JU-0PDA Impact 2- STA 1JU 0 - MLU 1 PDA ECNL 1 - NJ Crush 0JU-0- NJ Crush 3NJ Rush 3- NJ Crush 2FC Coppa0- World Class ECNL 3PDA Impact 1- World Class ECNL 1Tier 1-PDA ECNLTier 2-MatchFit ECNLTier 3-NJ Rush, PDA Impact, NJ CrushTier 4- STA,Copa, JUTier 5 The rest of NJ
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you also have to look at how many events they attended to get their GS ranking. Coppa and JU(i think it was) have 13 to Impacts 7. Impact also has a much higher win % than both with half the events playing mostly top 10 state teams.
This top 10 in the state stuff doesnt matter anymore. Top 10 in the region, now that matters. To be ranked #7 in the state really isnt that good anymore.
Ranked by who? Gotsoccer? Topdrawer? Soccerwire? Which one really matters? Right now it's all about Showcasing. Nobody should be getting points or rankings at all anymore; starting at u15.
Said the team that isn't ranked high. You need to have some order when making tournament brackets, rankings help.
Says the team who is only ranked high because they do every mediocre tournament under the sun.
Shows what you dont know. Top ranked teams that play in mediocre tournaments get very little to no points. They go in as the highest ranked team and it does nothing for them (regarding points)
Not when you get mediocre points over and and over again; it adds up. Then you are a mediocre team sitting at the top and when you start playing top competition, you fall. I've seen one particular team in NJ do this time and time again over the years.
Wrong again. The more mediocre flights you play in and win the less points you get for the victories. Your thought process is flawed.
Exactly. 1000 points here, 800 points there... It adds up. So this mediocre team gets to 15,000 from doing 8 tournaments plus EDP league who hands out points for showing up. While, for example, PDA OR gets the same points by doing two tourneys and one league. I agree with 8:20pm.
When did Rush take over Jet?
7:01 stop being so cryptic. Which team are you bashing now?
7:01, you just dont get it. If you have a lot of points you will NEVER gain points by playing inferior competition. Your example just doesn't work.
Jeff Cup schedules are out.
Are the fields clean?
seriously? ur asking a month+ before the tournament if the fields are clean?
Well, are they?
Manhattan Tournament canceled for this weekend. Snow covered fields and frigid temps.
NJ Wildcats actually got games in this weekend I heard...Won Saturday EDP 2-0 over North Union United, PA and tied NJ Rush 0-0. How did they play this weekend and kudos for getting out there this weekend...
It had to be indoors, no? What fields are not snow covered, even turf. It's all frozen.
You heard did you? Was it cold?
have a friend in NH whose son plays lacrosse. they are practicing on turf. you do what you have to do.
Is the crew playing in the spring challenge this weekend ?
LOL, so interested, why not find out for yourself?
I heard the crew didn't want to play the wildcats so they backed out of the tournament
it's good to see the trolls are alive and well. snow isn't bothering them. LOL
"FC Copa will manage the official Sky Blue FC Reserve Team U23 and U20 teams in a co-branded agreement which will play a season concurrently with the full professional side." For real?????
I don't think anyone is playing is a spring challenge this weekend.Why are the Wildcats afraid of anyone ?
Who said the Wildcats were afraid of anyone? Did I miss something?
you have it backwards.....troll post suggested that crew pulled out of SC because they didn't want to play wildcats.
Monmouth Ocean co rankings 1 wildcats 2 sting3 shore magic 4 the crewwwwww
Monmouth/Ocean county rankings??????????????????????? You are a joke.
OMG, too funny!you really need to get a hobby of your own.
i find it funny you are ranking a team that has never played any of the others.
I find it funny that you are ranking teams that are ok at best.
I find it sad and funny that some wildcat mom or dad needs so badly to promote the team and bring unnecessary and negative attention to their daughter's soccer team and club. And at the same time grind whatever ax they have to grind with sj crew. Your girls are growing up. Its about time you did too. Does big Kev promote this nonsense? Erin go braugh.
I don't know why a parent on any team would want to promote this nonsense. The Wildcats team is a nice group of girls that get along well on and off the field. The girls are playing competitive ball and neither their coach or club owner would approve of such a post. Let's not talk negatively about any team and ignore responding to such posts. Let's just enjoy watching our kids enjoy the sport.
Is Rage Premier Magic still the same team or did they change when they merged with NJ Rush?
Any surprises at Jeff Cup?
O'Reilly win 2-1JU loses 2-0CRUSH tie 1-1COPA win 1-0Impact loses 3-1
Blues loseMagic winsSJA loseWildcats lose
So, No surprises
Surprised your not here
O'Really get it
only 2 teams survived at Jeff Cup.
Which ones? I saw a lot of NJ teams in the top 4 of 12 team brackets. I would say that's pretty good. How will points be awarded? Not that it matters at this point but I'm just curious.
This is a SHOWCASE you morons...who gives a crap about wins and losses except a few of you losers. Get a life and get a clue!!! There were coaches everywhere at all locations. Great exposure for all of these kids. Kids who work hard in school and work hard on the field. Good for them! I wish them all luck.
Who cares about wins? How about the coaches. If they didnt care about wins why wouldnt they play everyone equal minutes? Why wouldnt they start different players?
Moron here...yes, this was a showcase event but every 12 team flight had a winner, finalist and two semi-finalists and there were thousands of points on the line. Showcase events are not meaningless in terms of rankings..but, what do I know, I'm just a moron.
Yes poster, your daughter is going to UVA!!!
SJA no longer on EDP schedule?Anyone know why?
I guess the crewww thinks that their too good for EDP!!!
I am sure they are looking for points elsewhere.
MF tryouts announced. MF or PDA, horrible choices in this age group but where else to go? Just received another email from PDA about their "optional" training sessions. Oh, bring a check. All is well though, all the teams get placed in the top 15 flights. At least you know the team will be there, MF teams come and go as quickly as the players do. All about the money for all of these clubs and coaches.
while i would love to see the town teams survive and compete, very few do. it has just become a fact.i also agree that people deserve to be paid for their expertise and time. i would expect it and i am sure you would too. does it have to be so expensive? MF was the biggest waste of money. i could throw out the laundry list but there is no point. if your daughter is serious, choose PDA.
3 years ago the crew coach was singing the praises of matchfit and bad mouthing the tr fusion coach. Now he is bad mouthing matchfit and he hired the ex tr fusion coach for his u15 team ---- unbelievable
You hit the nail on the head 9:03! Just goes to show what kiss a**es and fake coaches there are out there. What suits THEM at the moment. Can't trust most of them...
And the fields..... Too much snow, too much rain, Club closed the fields. No games, re-doing scheduling. No practice b/c of the wind..... Lots of money thrown at keeping up the incredible fields that we can not play on. They look great, and the few times they allow us the privilege to actually get on them and play is wonderful. But at what costs??Devit lol
Whose fields are we talking about? Matchfit's Holmdel fields?Good team.
if you are talking about Holmdel, they have a U16 team?
Two of NJ's "top 3 ranked" teams in a battle for last place down at MSSL college showcase this weekend. Making NJ proud.
I'm not with either team but was at the tournament. Many teams were missing players due to injury or spring break vacations. The 2 teams you referenced 4:13, also played against good teams including each other.
Torrential rain on the Friday and constant heavy winds on the Saturday. I didn't see any team play any form of soccer.
TOP 5 teams don't make excuses, they overcome.
8:31am is a motivational speaker on the side
Torrential rain and constant heavy winds only effect Top 5 teams, but not the Alleycats.
Torrential rain? Must have happened after 2:00. No rain in the am and only showers around noon . Sat wind was ridiculous! Very hard to play any kind of decent soccer.
True - "Sat wind was ridiculous!" but that only disturbs long ball / kick and run teams. Good teams, at a minimum any "top 5" should know how to pass the ball on the ground.
it started raining friday about 11am. steady at time but i don't remember it ever being torrential.agree the wind on saturday was ridiculous. disagree it only affected kick n run teams. i'd bet all teams had free kicks, corner kicks and punts but i could be wrong.
watched a corner kick stop dead in the air and fall back towards where it came from. gusts up to 36 mph.
shouldnt be taking a corner in the air in that type of wind. Bad player or coach.
LOL they are kids, not perfect like you
Kids not properly trained.
Fields looked OK at MSSL this weekend but they were really very slippery as the grass is still dormant. Footing was definitely an issue in the rain for Friday. Wind was tough Saturday but as the previous poster said, any team that can play the ball on the ground was not affected. Cross winds neutralized the effect for some fields, and others were equalized as both teams get to with and against the wind. Everyone had a fair shake so no one can bitch.
Bitter why. They are not a good team
How do you know what he has said to others, 11:14? Are you with him 24/7?
The crew coach is out for himself and speaking of his own kid, what is she doing , working at ocean county mall
I thought NJ Rush Blue took over Jet Cobra but I see they both have different rosters. Can anyone shed some light on this?
not an SJA fan here but don't you have better things to do than trash on an 18 year old girl?grow up
Wow I just read this whole blog and cannot believe how poorly people are speaking of 16 year old girls. PDA, Crew, whoever.... when you get down to it, these are just young women wanting to get better at soccer and playing their hearts out. Would you want someone speaking about your daughter that way? We have really lost sight of what is important in this world.
Thanks for the good spirit in this thread, 2:08. I'm a soccer mom at the mercy of a kid who adores the game and I'm just along for the ride with her. In New Jersey there are a gazillion clubs but only so many hours in the day; you have to do what works for you as a family.
Cry me a river
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New ECNL Club in Baltimore ?Baltimore Bays and SAC Combine and are given new ECNL. 3 more clubs in R1 to get ECNL. ENCL here ECNL there anywhere/everywhere ECNL
I actually heard it is a Pipeline and SAC combine. Who are the other clubs..
SAC is a great club already. Not sure what they get for all the extra fees. u17's have 12 commits and u16's have many commits already to Rutgers, MD, Towson and a couple to Johns Hopkins.And they do keep rosters down to a manageable 18 or so it seems.
Anyone know whats going on with the rush programs.
Within a few more years, top level independent teams will cease to exist in areas where ECNL has an established presence.
10:00 How do you figure? Not every team can be in ECNL. There will still be a place for other top teams.
@9:50pmthe Tigers are leaving him for better training.
You hear that Mr. DOC? looks like you'll have your Highland team back in no time.
Need help...please...child made MF and Copa..best one?
run from MF
Reasons? I'm not looking to be a buster. I read the above comments. I just need help bc I don't understand everything in depth.
MF DOC could care less. calls parent meeting and never shows up. no apology, no nuthin. then when i was told he would call me to speak about a different concern...i am still waiting. i am still waiting for apparel i ordered 2 and 3 (?) years ago? two separate orders. you can only send so many emails before you give up.there was no player or team growth at all. that was the main reason she left. i don't mind paying if i see results (no, doesn't have to = wins). seen a TON of improvement in current team. plenty of room for more. club way more organized. in April, coach couldn't remember that he had not rostered a player EVER for a league or tournament game. i guess 25 is too big of a number? not my kid but i still think it is a problem. MF took 3 players money and then told then they were only training players. the left so they could actually play. if the skill level drops off that much from #20 to #25 then DON'T TAKE THEM.have a friend whose daughter is on COPA. last we spoke she was very happy with everything. nothing is perfect.
I am new to EDP. My daughter has never played in this league before. Is a Coach allowed to change the field on game day just because he prefers one over another? (turf/grass)Are they allowed to use guest players from another team at the same club? At the start of the game I overheard the parents saying one player was helping them out and later at the start of the 2nd half I heard a different group of parents talking and it seems there was more than one player from another team.
Cops over MF
Lol! Copa not cops!
It depends on which MF team your daughter was accepted. If it was ECNL maybe good. If not, don't accept a spot and move on. (other teams aren't good and the club could care less about any team other than ECNL and I KNOW THIS from past experience). I say maybe good if she made ECNL because MAYBE your kid will get playing time. They can and do roster up to 30. Previous poster stated other facts about the club as well. I would run as far away from MF as possible. Very unprofessionally run and the DOC thinks he's a dictator loudly demanding that this and that should be, but he has absolutely no integrity. Hope this helps.
@10:40 Can't thank you enough.
TRENDING -- MLU FLASH
ur point about ML?
Looks like NJ Cup and NJYS State Cup Semis are all set. Any predictions?NJ CupSTA v SJEBCopa v JUNJYS State CupSTA v CrushCopa v NJ Rush
Copa v STA. Copa win.
Does anybody know the score of the Spartan - Crew state cup game
Crush will beat STA in the semifinals!
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