Thursday, March 19, 2015

U16G Soccer in PA, NJ, MD, VA & NY

Note: These high school women at age 16 are no joke. Many are looking ahead to college soccer play. They tell their stories here.

144 comments:

Anonymous said...

then how do you explain 10th graders deciding on schools now ?

Anonymous said...

See 7:32 a.m.! Some have educated themselves on the process of picking a school but some are jumping at the first offer that comes along.

Anonymous said...

Can someone help me with the following:

As a general rule, I know that D1 is a much bigger time commitment than D3. I know they both play in the fall seasons. What is the difference of time commitment in the fall between D1 and D3 ? And what is the difference between the D1 and D3 in terms of what soccer related activities they are involved in winter-spring-summer. My daughter thinks she wants D3 but does not want to be completely out of soccer when it is not in fall season.

Thoughts ?

Anonymous said...

D2?

Anonymous said...

I didn't ask about d2 because we've looked at the list of schools and not much there to interest her. Also I think d1 and d2 share some of the same characteristics. I know their scholarship numbers are different but my inquiry was focused on the experience. By all means if my question can be answered while including d2 school that would also be appreciated.

Anonymous said...

PB still living your soccer life through your daughter?

Anonymous said...

Anyone know the link to see results at the NPL Florida tourny

Anonymous said...

http://clubsoccer.us/TTSchedules.aspx?tid=USCLUBGS&tab=5&sub=0&Round=2014&sYear=2014

Anonymous said...

That gives schedules but not results

Anonymous said...

not sure what you are doing wrong but click on the age group and it shows schedules and results.

Anonymous said...

Guess I did make the right decision staying with NJSA instead of jumping on the SJA bandwagon. At least we played in Disney, and they were not their.

Anonymous said...

Why, because going to Disney did so much for you?

Anonymous said...

The NPL Tournament was very, very weak compared to Disney.

Anonymous said...

4:32, you went to both? That is good, please tell us the differences as you saw them.

Anonymous said...

Amount of College Coaches in attendance as well as quality of teams in attendance.

Anonymous said...

You know that because you were at both events?

Anonymous said...

I was at Disney and you couldn't move for College Coaches (over 400). You also had some of the best teams in the Country in attendance. At our age group there were 6 out of the top 10 in the country.

The person with a gripe is obviously a parent who attended the NPL Tournament, no need to get upset. Just stating facts that the quality on paper was far higher at the Disney Tournament.

An example is PDA Blues (who were at NPL) played a team from Kentucky who has won 1 game in 17. Then the PDA Florida team from a YEAR BELOW (who on paper do not have a good record). And Boston Breakers NPL who are mediocre at best. To travel all the way down there to play teams like that would be a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

I have no gripe, and was not at either. I was looking for real information. Don't assume.

Anonymous said...

Apologies

Anonymous said...

I would suggest not sleeping on the Blues. They have worked hard and will be a very good team this year. Thank you for all your research.

Anonymous said...

If you say so 2:51pm. I very much doubt it though.

Anonymous said...

Why do you doubt it, do you know the additions? Have you seen the training? Just askin'

Anonymous said...

I know of the additions. I have not seen the training but unless we have Jose Mourinho working at PDA then it won't make as big a difference as 2:51pm suggests. Good luck to them, they won't be a top 10 team in NJ in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

mt laurel and SJA not on jeff cup acceptances?

being PDA does help. blues, impact and shore in even though ranked lower. blues and impact are NPLs

Anonymous said...

Of course Shore is lower ranked, they are a brand new team. Of course PDA matters.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but SJA is just not worthy of Jeff Cup. Truth.

Anonymous said...

How would anyone know if a new team, SJA, would be worthy of anything. Unless of course you are a SJA parent.

Anonymous said...

Most of these girls have played together for years with same coach with mediocre results. Added some new so-so players. All around, not a great team therefore not worthy of Jeff Cup.

Anonymous said...

Ya know, I laugh so hard when I view these comments about SJA. This one person, yes...ONE person hates on them so much that they just need to throw in a negative comment about them every chance they get. Get a life! Stop being a child!! You would think by now at the U16 level we could all talk about the important things that will be affecting our girls moving forward but instead some of us just act like 5 year olds. It is so obvious to all of us reading that you live and breathe every moment of your pathetic life dreaming of your next SJA posting! LOLOL YOUR such a child!!

Anonymous said...

11:14 Actually, no I don't breathe every moment dreaming of SJA. I really don't give them a thought until someone posts about them. Then it brings to mind, why they aren't worthy of Jeff Cup. Btw, they aren't the only team not worthy. There are many more. Some that come to mind are: PDA Blues, PDA Shore, NJ Wildcats, you get the gist. Take a deep breath now, you don't want to have a stroke.

Anonymous said...

We'll get to see what SJA is made of when they play in the top division of the Region 1 Champions League this Spring. Considering that they were accepted in that division, I would question why they did not get into Jeff Cup. There are a number of Division 2 teams that were accepted.

Anonymous said...

If you really want to be honest with yourself, there are REALLY only a handful of truly talented players out there. The rest of them are all over paying for their childhood soccer experience.

Anonymous said...

wow, a little sensitive? you seem to think you know who is posting? i find that funny.

take a deep breath and step away from the computer(or put the phone away).

this is so not worth it.

Anonymous said...

Talent, my friends, is a very subjective word. And if you have read any of my previous posts, you will understand that it is something that even our so-called top coaches are very poor at identifying, let alone developing.

So I am not sure how many of us out here are really qualified to evaluate talent, and I would venture to say that those who are think that they are, probably are not, mostly because there is too much about soccer that the adults surrounding the game, both parents and coaches, simply don't get. I believe firmly that at least up to the U15 age, the priority of a youth soccer coach should not be about identifying talent. It should be more focused on forecasting talent and developing talent.

We are ALL overpaying for our youth soccer experience. Not just the ones who are not in this so-called truly talented handful.

Finally, I am just curious - what is the point of saying that there of only a handful of truly talented players out there ?

Anonymous said...

11:41 Please tell us what makes you so qualified to make such statements about so many teams and deem them not worthy of a Jeff Cup acceptance. You seem to know so much about them. Do tell!!

Anonymous said...

1:34. Because it is true.

Anonymous said...

709, but by the nature of your comment, it is not one that can be easily determined to be true or false. It's just an opinion, and even then, we'd have to go about first determining what talent means and at what level can a player be constituted as talented.

So it's your opinion which you are confident in, so much that you feel you can state it as a fact - but this type of thing really can't be fact checked.

Ronaldo scored X amount of goal last year. whatever X may be, this can be verified to be either factual or not. Someone being good or talented is really more based on individual perception.

All this being said, I can tell you that if I make a statement such as ... the soccer ball is round ... that would be a true statement. But just because it is true does not explain why I might feel the need to publicize it in this forum.

When I write that most parents and coaches surrounding youth soccer do not know very much about the game, I tell you this and feel strongly about it, but I recognize that it is my opinion. I can argue for my point, but it is not the kind of statement to be called true or false.

Anonymous said...

fact and true: some people think they know everything.

fact and true: no one can tell them they are wrong.

fact and true: they are jackasses and that will never change.

just separate yourself

Anonymous said...

Opinion: Whoever wrote that nonsense at 3:55 A.M. is a jackass and could do us a favor, in the future, and go to bed before posting more garbage that makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

3:55 - Fact and True. Isn't that redundant ?

Anonymous said...

LOL

Anonymous said...

Jeff cup brackets... Lot's of surprises from some Top Rated NJ teams. What gives?

Anonymous said...

i'll bite, surprises how?

Anonymous said...

Surprised as to how PDA Blues made the second flight? Seriously?

Anonymous said...

JU / Copa / NJ Wildcats / Matchfit NPL all pretty surprising placements. Are the groupings based on past performances? Where is Matchfit ECNL or STA ?

Anonymous said...

5:31pm. Doubt it's based on past performances as teams like Blues are placed far too high.

Anonymous said...

JU and Copa are ranked too low. Both should be in at least 2nd flight. Blues ranked way too high. Should be in 3rd or 4th flight. Wildcats and MF are appropriately flighted. Remember, MF is NOT the same MF. It's the north team that took over the NPL title and they were low in GS rankings.

Anonymous said...

Blues are where they belong, PDA name pulls weight. Want to be ssen?

Anonymous said...

Haha Blues are where they belong? Seriously?? We'll come back to that comment after they get smashed down at Jeff Cup against far superior competition.

Anonymous said...

Not the point. The point is to be seen and PDA offers that.

Anonymous said...

The point is to be seen in a competitive environment. Do you think a coach will sit and watch a poor team play regardless of the name? Shows how little you know about how College Coaches work.

Anonymous said...

10:43/9:00 what do you know please tell?

PDA Blues will def. be challenged at Jeff Cup. Is that a bad thing? Its about development people! Blues are trying to get better as a team and individual players. Yes, 1043 college coaches will watch them and opponent so you're wrong. Anyway, you get better by playing stronger teams and that is what's going to take place at Jeff Cup. PDA is preparing players for college, its not all about this event, the vision is larger then your peanut brain.

JU/Coppa/ have a good case to be moved to higher flight, however I bet my mortgage payment the coach wont act on it. They will stay in lower flight to chase gotsoccer points!!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for clearing that up john.

Anonymous said...

It's not about chasing the GS points, per se, but the higher you are ranked in GS is supposed to help with what tournaments you get accepted to and what flight you are placed in. This is why is makes NO SENSE that PDA Blues are flighted higher than both FC Copa and JU. The almighty PDA name shouldn't be the deciding factor when clearly the team hasn't earned the right to be placed that high.

A previous poster hit the nail on the head. So the girls can play against better competition and supposedly up their individual games, but the college coaches will not be impressed by their lack of skill and their getting crushed by much better competition. If they want to embarrass themselves, let them.

Anonymous said...

BUT PDA does carry that weight AND how do you know they will "get crushed" and "embarrass" themselves? Do you know the team, who they added, how they trained, how they have grown?

Anonymous said...

Same players, different team.

Anonymous said...

Who? Blues? You are wrong if that is your point.

Anonymous said...

End of the day what is the point in playing in tournaments/leagues, doing well and therefore improving your ranking and then getting misflighted due to the short sightedness of tournament directors placing PDA teams higher just because they are PDA.

Look at Blues/Impact records and name a worthwhile tournament either have won or made the Final in the past year?

Impact have a better chance of an encouraging showing down at Jeff Cup than Blues have. And yes i am familiar with the level of players they have brought on board, and they aren't at the same level as the teams currently ranked top 7 in the State (below).

PDA ECNL
JU
STA
NJ Rush
MF ECNL
Copa
NJ Crush

Anonymous said...

3:06
You are a funny character! You really think those coaches that are misflighted are complaining to the TD!?, NOPE!! So it's not the TD's fault or PDA's influence, nice try. Some coaches request lower flights. I bet your JU, gotsoccer chaser and Coppa gotsoccer chaser, are happy where they are.

NJ has some good teams that are too close to tell until they physically play each other which has not happened in certain situations.Teams have played similar competitions and based on that all you can do is tier the teams in NJ.

PDA ECNL 4- JU 0
STA 0 - JU-0
PDA Impact 2- STA 1
JU 0 - MLU 1
PDA ECNL 1 - NJ Crush 0
JU-0- NJ Crush 3
NJ Rush 3- NJ Crush 2
FC Coppa0- World Class ECNL 3
PDA Impact 1- World Class ECNL 1


Tier 1-PDA ECNL
Tier 2-MatchFit ECNL
Tier 3-NJ Rush, PDA Impact, NJ Crush
Tier 4- STA,Copa, JU
Tier 5 The rest of NJ

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Anonymous said...

you also have to look at how many events they attended to get their GS ranking. Coppa and JU(i think it was) have 13 to Impacts 7. Impact also has a much higher win % than both with half the events playing mostly top 10 state teams.

Anonymous said...

This top 10 in the state stuff doesnt matter anymore. Top 10 in the region, now that matters. To be ranked #7 in the state really isnt that good anymore.

Anonymous said...

Ranked by who? Gotsoccer? Topdrawer? Soccerwire? Which one really matters? Right now it's all about Showcasing. Nobody should be getting points or rankings at all anymore; starting at u15.

Anonymous said...

Said the team that isn't ranked high. You need to have some order when making tournament brackets, rankings help.

Anonymous said...

Says the team who is only ranked high because they do every mediocre tournament under the sun.

Anonymous said...

Shows what you dont know. Top ranked teams that play in mediocre tournaments get very little to no points. They go in as the highest ranked team and it does nothing for them (regarding points)

Anonymous said...

Not when you get mediocre points over and and over again; it adds up. Then you are a mediocre team sitting at the top and when you start playing top competition, you fall. I've seen one particular team in NJ do this time and time again over the years.

Anonymous said...

Wrong again. The more mediocre flights you play in and win the less points you get for the victories. Your thought process is flawed.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. 1000 points here, 800 points there... It adds up. So this mediocre team gets to 15,000 from doing 8 tournaments plus EDP league who hands out points for showing up. While, for example, PDA OR gets the same points by doing two tourneys and one league. I agree with 8:20pm.

Anonymous said...

When did Rush take over Jet?

Anonymous said...

7:01 stop being so cryptic. Which team are you bashing now?

Anonymous said...

7:01, you just dont get it. If you have a lot of points you will NEVER gain points by playing inferior competition. Your example just doesn't work.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup schedules are out.

Anonymous said...

Are the fields clean?

Anonymous said...

seriously? ur asking a month+ before the tournament if the fields are clean?

Anonymous said...

Well, are they?

Anonymous said...

Manhattan Tournament canceled for this weekend. Snow covered fields and frigid temps.

Anonymous said...

NJ Wildcats actually got games in this weekend I heard...Won Saturday EDP 2-0 over North Union United, PA and tied NJ Rush 0-0. How did they play this weekend and kudos for getting out there this weekend...

Anonymous said...

It had to be indoors, no? What fields are not snow covered, even turf. It's all frozen.

Anonymous said...

You heard did you? Was it cold?

Anonymous said...

have a friend in NH whose son plays lacrosse. they are practicing on turf. you do what you have to do.

Anonymous said...

Is the crew playing in the spring challenge this weekend ?

Anonymous said...

LOL, so interested, why not find out for yourself?

Anonymous said...

I heard the crew didn't want to play the wildcats so they backed out of the tournament

Anonymous said...

it's good to see the trolls are alive and well. snow isn't bothering them. LOL

Anonymous said...

"FC Copa will manage the official Sky Blue FC Reserve Team U23 and U20 teams in a co-branded agreement which will play a season concurrently with the full professional side." For real?????

Anonymous said...

I don't think anyone is playing is a spring challenge this weekend.

Why are the Wildcats afraid of anyone ?

Anonymous said...

Who said the Wildcats were afraid of anyone? Did I miss something?

Anonymous said...

you have it backwards.....troll post suggested that crew pulled out of SC because they didn't want to play wildcats.

Anonymous said...

Monmouth Ocean co rankings

1 wildcats
2 sting
3 shore magic
4 the crewwwwww

Anonymous said...

Monmouth/Ocean county rankings??????????????????????? You are a joke.

Anonymous said...

OMG, too funny!

you really need to get a hobby of your own.

Anonymous said...

i find it funny you are ranking a team that has never played any of the others.

Anonymous said...

I find it funny that you are ranking teams that are ok at best.

Anonymous said...

I find it sad and funny that some wildcat mom or dad needs so badly to promote the team and bring unnecessary and negative attention to their daughter's soccer team and club. And at the same time grind whatever ax they have to grind with sj crew. Your girls are growing up. Its about time you did too. Does big Kev promote this nonsense? Erin go braugh.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why a parent on any team would want to promote this nonsense. The Wildcats team is a nice group of girls that get along well on and off the field. The girls are playing competitive ball and neither their coach or club owner would approve of such a post. Let's not talk negatively about any team and ignore responding to such posts. Let's just enjoy watching our kids enjoy the sport.

Anonymous said...

Is Rage Premier Magic still the same team or did they change when they merged with NJ Rush?

Anonymous said...

Any surprises at Jeff Cup?

Anonymous said...


O'Reilly win 2-1

JU loses 2-0
CRUSH tie 1-1
COPA win 1-0
Impact loses 3-1

Anonymous said...

Blues lose
Magic wins
SJA lose
Wildcats lose

Anonymous said...

So, No surprises

Anonymous said...

Surprised your not here

Anonymous said...

O'Really get it

Anonymous said...

only 2 teams survived at Jeff Cup.

Anonymous said...

Which ones? I saw a lot of NJ teams in the top 4 of 12 team brackets. I would say that's pretty good.

How will points be awarded? Not that it matters at this point but I'm just curious.

Anonymous said...

This is a SHOWCASE you morons...who gives a crap about wins and losses except a few of you losers. Get a life and get a clue!!! There were coaches everywhere at all locations. Great exposure for all of these kids. Kids who work hard in school and work hard on the field. Good for them! I wish them all luck.

Anonymous said...

Who cares about wins? How about the coaches. If they didnt care about wins why wouldnt they play everyone equal minutes? Why wouldnt they start different players?

Anonymous said...

Moron here...yes, this was a showcase event but every 12 team flight had a winner, finalist and two semi-finalists and there were thousands of points on the line. Showcase events are not meaningless in terms of rankings..but, what do I know, I'm just a moron.

Anonymous said...

Yes poster, your daughter is going to UVA!!!

Anonymous said...

SJA no longer on EDP schedule?
Anyone know why?

Anonymous said...

I guess the crewww thinks that their too good for EDP!!!

Anonymous said...

I am sure they are looking for points elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

MF tryouts announced. MF or PDA, horrible choices in this age group but where else to go? Just received another email from PDA about their "optional" training sessions. Oh, bring a check. All is well though, all the teams get placed in the top 15 flights. At least you know the team will be there, MF teams come and go as quickly as the players do. All about the money for all of these clubs and coaches.

Anonymous said...

while i would love to see the town teams survive and compete, very few do. it has just become a fact.

i also agree that people deserve to be paid for their expertise and time. i would expect it and i am sure you would too. does it have to be so expensive?

MF was the biggest waste of money. i could throw out the laundry list but there is no point. if your daughter is serious, choose PDA.

Anonymous said...

3 years ago the crew coach was singing the praises of matchfit and bad mouthing the tr fusion coach. Now he is bad mouthing matchfit and he hired the ex tr fusion coach for his u15 team ---- unbelievable

Anonymous said...

LOl

Anonymous said...

You hit the nail on the head 9:03! Just goes to show what kiss a**es and fake coaches there are out there. What suits THEM at the moment. Can't trust most of them...

Anonymous said...

And the fields..... Too much snow, too much rain, Club closed the fields. No games, re-doing scheduling. No practice b/c of the wind.....
Lots of money thrown at keeping up the incredible fields that we can not play on. They look great, and the few times they allow us the privilege to actually get on them and play is wonderful. But at what costs??

Devit lol

Anonymous said...

Whose fields are we talking about? Matchfit's Holmdel fields?

Good team.

Anonymous said...

if you are talking about Holmdel, they have a U16 team?

Anonymous said...

Two of NJ's "top 3 ranked" teams in a battle for last place down at MSSL college showcase this weekend. Making NJ proud.

Anonymous said...

I'm not with either team but was at the tournament. Many teams were missing players due to injury or spring break vacations. The 2 teams you referenced 4:13, also played against good teams including each other.

Anonymous said...

Torrential rain on the Friday and constant heavy winds on the Saturday. I didn't see any team play any form of soccer.

Anonymous said...

TOP 5 teams don't make excuses, they overcome.

Anonymous said...

8:31am is a motivational speaker on the side

Anonymous said...

Torrential rain and constant heavy winds only effect Top 5 teams, but not the Alleycats.

Anonymous said...

Torrential rain? Must have happened after 2:00. No rain in the am and only showers around noon . Sat wind was ridiculous! Very hard to play any kind of decent soccer.

Anonymous said...

True - "Sat wind was ridiculous!" but that only disturbs long ball / kick and run teams. Good teams, at a minimum any "top 5" should know how to pass the ball on the ground.

Anonymous said...

it started raining friday about 11am. steady at time but i don't remember it ever being torrential.

agree the wind on saturday was ridiculous.

disagree it only affected kick n run teams. i'd bet all teams had free kicks, corner kicks and punts but i could be wrong.

Anonymous said...

watched a corner kick stop dead in the air and fall back towards where it came from. gusts up to 36 mph.

Anonymous said...

shouldnt be taking a corner in the air in that type of wind. Bad player or coach.

Anonymous said...

LOL they are kids, not perfect like you

Anonymous said...

Kids not properly trained.

Anonymous said...

Fields looked OK at MSSL this weekend but they were really very slippery as the grass is still dormant. Footing was definitely an issue in the rain for Friday. Wind was tough Saturday but as the previous poster said, any team that can play the ball on the ground was not affected. Cross winds neutralized the effect for some fields, and others were equalized as both teams get to with and against the wind. Everyone had a fair shake so no one can bitch.

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Anonymous said...

Bitter why. They are not a good team

Anonymous said...

How do you know what he has said to others, 11:14? Are you with him 24/7?

Anonymous said...

The crew coach is out for himself and speaking of his own kid, what is she doing , working at ocean county mall

Anonymous said...

I thought NJ Rush Blue took over Jet Cobra but I see they both have different rosters. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Anonymous said...

not an SJA fan here but don't you have better things to do than trash on an 18 year old girl?

grow up

Anonymous said...

Wow I just read this whole blog and cannot believe how poorly people are speaking of 16 year old girls. PDA, Crew, whoever.... when you get down to it, these are just young women wanting to get better at soccer and playing their hearts out. Would you want someone speaking about your daughter that way? We have really lost sight of what is important in this world.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the good spirit in this thread, 2:08. I'm a soccer mom at the mercy of a kid who adores the game and I'm just along for the ride with her. In New Jersey there are a gazillion clubs but only so many hours in the day; you have to do what works for you as a family.

Anonymous said...

Cry me a river

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