Monday, September 30, 2013

U16G Soccer in PA, NJ, MD, VA & NY

Note: These high school women at age 16 are no joke. Many are looking ahead to college soccer play. They tell their stories here.

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Anonymous said...

EDL Championship game is scheduled tonight between NJ Wildcats vs Jersey United 7pm @Heavenly Turf Fields in East Brunswick. Good Luck to both teams as they fight for a spot at Nationals in NC come July...

Anonymous said...

Congrats to FC Copa Celeste on winning the Southeast Regionals in NC this past weekend. Good luck at Nationals!!

Anonymous said...

Yes well done Copa on driving all the way down to NC for Regionals when the Northeast Regionals are at PDA 10 minutes from you with better competition. Sensible

Anonymous said...

Why would they do that? Why are they allowed to do that? The answer I guess would be easier competition but they cant say that to the girls or the parents. So, what did you say?

Anonymous said...

Wow, what a silly organization. Guess they were not able to beat teams here, which caused them to go down south.


Anonymous said...

The other teams were from western PA. Not sure what any of them were doing playing in the southeast regionals. I wonder if US Club did that because they weren't getting any clubs to compete. Lets face it... US Club Nationals is kind of a joke.

Anonymous said...

US Club Nationals can be manipulated but the winners of their respective state cups deserve to be there.

Anonymous said...

US Club has nothing to do with state cups.

I do think the national winner of the USYS, NPL , and ECNL should all square off for one ultimate "Best in the Nation."

Anonymous said...

Jersey United won their EDL league (part of the NPL)after a grueling 5 game schedule (including the final) Talk about taking the express lane to the NPL finals. Hope they do better then last years performance.

Anonymous said...

Jersey United won EDP, NPL and the National Cup and they were also State Cup Semi-Finalists. Well done. Plus you may want to edit your comment and use proper grammar.

Anonymous said...

4:04, what about JU winning the NJ Cup as well or is that what you meant when you said National Cup? Is there a difference?

Anonymous said...

JU beat an EDP 2nd division team in the final and had an easy run to the final..good achievement for an "elite team"

Crazy, unethical coach..crazy parents with cool aid stained lips and a big turnover of players!!

Their results are terrible against good competition but they keep riding the coattails and win at all costs philosophy!!

Anonymous said...

They had such a great year beating good competition consitently - Crush, Copa, STA, etc. The coach is a class act - great enviornment and everyone is happy.

Anonymous said...

JU did not go to the NPL nationals last year. They were in the US Cup nationals.

I'm not a JU parent but I have to say that they are a pretty solid team. Not top tier but a good team. And they actually don't have much turnover so I'm not sure where you get your info.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of haters. These are 15 year old girls we are talking about. If you win your league you move on results speak for themselves. Case closed.

Anonymous said...

JU has only 7 loses in 31 games in 2014, won jersey cup, goes undefeated in EDP league, lost in Semi finals of States. Qualified for ASL playoffs. Most importantly the girls are becoming better players. If you ask me that is a pretty good year. Maybe best year of any non ecnl team in NJ.

Anonymous said...

5:31
Basically every team has crazy parents that have tasted the kool aid and turnover of players.
Obviously you are on a perfect team compared to the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

Credit where credits due..JU have had a good year

They do well with what they have and pick up 4/5 better players each year..not much development there but the team gets stronger..how many kids on the current team are left from U12? 4/5?

The forward is very good, probably too good for the team and a few girls ride her coat tails.

Overall a good year though!

Anonymous said...

Hey 4:04...
The Eastern Development League (formerly the NPL Division of EDP) joined the NPL in 2011-12 with boys and expanded to include girls in 2012-13.

http://npleastern.demosphere.com/schedules/2014/66131442.html

"Eastern Development LEAGUE" - no longer EDP. And the point of the post was it was only a 5 game league schedule while most NPL's play 12 to 15 to earn their spots.

Anonymous said...

EDL league where you play 4 games and then a final to make nationals is hardly a league.

Anonymous said...

JU lost to Mount Laurel, an unranked team, in regionals this morning. Was the star striker who carries the team not there?

Anonymous said...

The last poster really has envy issues. That must really stink to live your life that way.

Anonymous said...

Agreed 3:01. Probably just a local parent or coach. Mt Laurel played well and deserved the win. JU played many players from their club team so kudos to them to give their second team a crack in a game and tournament that does not mean very much to them.

Anonymous said...

What do you mean Mt. Laurel is an unranked team? They are ranked. Did you mean not a top ten team? Mt. Laurel has a history of being a good team.

JU always says they played club players when they don't do well. Club has their own team and tournaments. Don't enter if you don't have the roster.

Anonymous said...

MLU unranked, that is funny. you obviously don't get around much.

MLU also beat NJ Rush (state cup champions) recently so pretty good for an "unranked" town team that keeps losing players to PDA and such.

Go MLU! and no, not a parent.

Anonymous said...

LOL!!

JU win and they are the best team ever..lose and it's a meaningless tournament with club team players playing

Which is more meaningless EDL National Championships or the Mid Atlantic Cup?

What a joke...

Anonymous said...

You know what you all hide behind anonymous comments. Bottom line these are 15 year old girls. The JU haters are obviously STA parents. Give it a break. Your Red team treats the White team like crap. You have never lost a game..... with out some type of excuse Refs bad fields etc. It all comes from your leadership. What an arrogant group of people. I for one have stayed out of the bashing of PDA Matchfit etc. I apologize for lowering myself to this level but enough is enough.

Anonymous said...

"You know what you all hide behind anonymous comments," says Anonymous! Got to love it! Lol

Anonymous said...

Hey "Anonymous" from 10:40... (who is obviously a JU parent) why would you say "Your Red team treats the White team like crap." Do tell? Perhaps that would substantiate your " What an arrogant group of people." statement.

Anonymous said...

JU and STA are out.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the update!

Anonymous said...



10:40

Keep trying to stir the pot have no clue what your talking about

Anonymous said...



PWSI team very good should take the whole thing

Play a good game and have some very good individual players

Anonymous said...

YMS has one girls team. Once there gone so will the club

Anonymous said...

wow what happened to match fit at the ecnl national? ouch

Anonymous said...

Looks like they went 1-1-1. Sounds okay to me, only lost one game. They did get killed by the team that will probably win it all. Beat De Anza. PDA barely squeaked into the final, but they did get through. That's a good thing...much more competition in the ranks.

Anonymous said...

Good Luck to PDA Impact at the NPL Championships.

Anonymous said...

Still not sure why Impact needs to bring guest players, dont they have enough good players? 8:34 do you know?

Anonymous said...

They are playing some very weak teams. NPL is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Why is NPL a joke? Weak teams? What does that say for all the other teams that dont play NPL?

Anonymous said...

You can say every league is a joke then. ECNL is a joke for that matter. They take ENTIRE clubs not just single teams, so in many cases, the weak ride along on the coattails. Too many weak teams in ECNL to even think about bragging about them. NPL can be a joke too. Many times the ECNL players get time on the NPL teams so the NPL team can make it to the finals. It's all a racket. Sit back, enjoy the fun. lol

Anonymous said...

Many times the ECNL players get time on the NPL teams so the NPL team can make it to the finals. It's all a racket. Sit back, enjoy the fun. lol

That is the case here for Impact

Anonymous said...

You are saying that Impact needs OR players to be sucessful? Impact can hang with any of the teams they play on their own. Would destroy Blues and as OR what they did with them.

Anonymous said...

It is a fact that Impact has used players from OR to play with them....they are carded to both teams for that reason.

Anonymous said...

Question for @10:00. How do you know they are using those guest players? Where did you find the roster for the NPL finals?

Anonymous said...

The OR are at ECNL nationals so I am presuming the players not rostered are being given the opportunity to play with the Impact...if there is space on the Impact available why wouldnt you give players from your OWN club a chance to play? Utilization of resources is why PDA is the best at what they do..I know some disgruntled parents will jump onboard bashing PDA but deep down that's where the kids want to be and where the parents want their players to be! People bash out of unnecessary jealousy instead of concentrating on developing their child at the appropriate place PDA or not...

Just my two cents...let the bashing commence!!

Anonymous said...

PDA has and will always share players. In this age group there are now 4 teams, and yes the coaches talk and share resources. They will put each player into what they consider to be the best situation for them. Downside is that they carry about 22-24 players but we all know they cant roster them all and even those that are on the roster wont all play. If you have 24 players per team that is 24 right off the mark that cant be rostered for a match. If you play 16 per game you now add another 8 that wont play.
That means 32 girls are there to financially support the program, and oh yeah train.

Anonymous said...

PDA is a business, remember that.

Anonymous said...

What's going on with the ODP teams? Are they still training / playing? I though I heard their was ODP event this week and it makes me wonder what the ECNL and NPL girls who play ODP would do. Anyone have insight into the ODP schedule?

Anonymous said...

I understand the sharing of the players (or resources as you called the girls) but only to fill needed spots. I don't think it's right if Impact is pulling better girls from OR just to win and therefore forcing regular Impact players sit. I hope that's not the case.

I don't know of any ECNL players that play ODP. Not saying there aren't any, just none that I know. I do know one NPL girl who is not going to camp so that she can attend Nationals. Shame to pay all that money for ODP and now you won't have a chance to be recognized at camp.

Anonymous said...

PDA impact can't field a good team without guests

Anonymous said...

PDA Impact 14-0-1 in NPL league play with one guest from PDA Blues and one from PDA OR (for one game).
Now at nationals and are 2-0-1 with two guests from the Blues since two players were in able to attend. So a total of three guests all season. Don't think people on this site have the facts but just want to start issues. I will let the fact speak for themselves.

Anonymous said...

6:06 FALSE. They played with OR players a few times during the regular NPL season. My daughter's team played them and there were OR players on the field for them.

Anonymous said...

Blues??? Really??

Anonymous said...

YMS has absolutely no connections. It's a town team with some athletic players. The team itself is decent but the club as a whole is total garbage... I'd like to see if any of them receive scholarships to respectable colleges..

Anonymous said...

I just wonder what the kids would say if they saw what their parents are writing on this blog.

Lets set a new standard do not push the publish button unless you think your kid would approve of your message.


Anonymous said...

I read this blog for some laughs from time to time. My daughter's team has been successful and there are often lies and unjustly criticisms made about the team and the coach. I imagine much of that is the same for these other teams who have been successful. You people need to get a life. I feel really bad for you that it makes you feel better to minimize the success of others.

Anonymous said...

Congrats to SJA on their first tournament win!

no, not a parent.

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Anonymous said...

5:15 what tournament?

Anonymous said...

That's easy to say when SJA played a bunch of no/ranked low/ranked teams. A vision of their future?

Anonymous said...

6:17 - Just let the parent be proud of their daughter's team for doing well at a tournament.

Try to have a nice day!

Anonymous said...

just glad my daughter's friends had a good weekend.

sad you have to be nasty just to make yourself feel better.

Anonymous said...

Your team sucks. Not deserving if a comment

Anonymous said...

Even with guests covering for a depleted PDA team, Impact couldnt win. Time to mix Impact and Blues and make a real competitive team.

Anonymous said...

9:30 Sorry but adding Blues to Impact will just weaken it. Fact.

Anonymous said...

9:46, are you saying that by combining 2 teams it wouldnt make 1 stronger team? Every player on Impact is better then every player on the Blues?

Anonymous said...

Adding Blues would weaken? Really? So why do you have a Blues player almost full time? What do her teammates think of this? Both sets of teammates.

Anonymous said...

and yet you comment. too funny

Anonymous said...

Congrats to NJ for taking HALF of the NPL national titles. Match Fit, PDA, and Stallions. Way to go NE and NJ!

Anonymous said...

Congrats to NJ Wildcats Academy Lady Strikers U15G winning the PA Classics Mid-Atlantic Cup this past weekend. Beat some of the top teams in PA this weekend.

Beat #2 PA Rush 1-0
Lost #11 HMMS Eagles FC 2-0
Beat #10 PA Classics 2-1
Finals : Beat #4 LDC 2-1.

Way to represent NJ ladies!! Well done!

Anonymous said...

Thanks Kevin

Anonymous said...

Congrats to the Wildcats. You are proving yourself more and more. BUT don't get too wrapped up in those points. They really don't mean much. You can do multiple average tournaments and have as many points as OR (for example) who only do a few high level competition. Noway the two teams can even be compared. You are clearly a parent not used to being on a top team so Im just trying to give you some advice considering the success of Wildcats. Also.. it's better to be modest than bragging because things change quickly in youth soccer.

Also... how many of last years players left Wildcats and how many new ones came? And where did they come from? Just curious.

Anonymous said...

Why can't we all just be happy and have to throw negative digs at every post or just compliment a team for their accomplishments? Good for you NJ Wildcats and all the NPL/ECNL teams that represent our great state of NJ and had good results from this past week/weekend. Proud of the soccer in this age group as the girls continue to grow and mature. Don't listen to all this BS from people on here that have an agenda and take away any of your teams success!

Anonymous said...

Dont worry Wildcats, you will have a roster of 28 and those that play now will be #23 in 2 years. Check his track record.

Anonymous said...

MFA/PDA are any better with roster numbers per team? Come on people wake up. Wildcats only had 15 girls at this weekend's tournament. How many kids are rostered on each of the MFA/PDA teams per year? Mommy/Daddy paying all that $$$ for the name and brand and hopes for a scholarship!!! Only the girls on the ECNL team will be looked at by colleges and the other 3-4 teams within that same age group are wasting time and money!!!

Anonymous said...

So you are saying that college coaches will only look at the NJ girls if they play for one of the two ecnl teams? I highly doubt that. There are many girls from many clubs and some town travel teams that have gone on to play in college.

Anonymous said...

Are we going over this College topic again? It doesn't matter if you're on an ECNL team. If you go to enough College ID Camps and impress the coach at the camp and are then pro active in keeping dialogue open between the coach, your club coach and yourself then you'll get offers.

Anonymous said...

If that is true then why are you allowing your daughter to play for the Wildcats? Not cheap, No visibility as per you.

Anonymous said...

2:44------Great point

Anonymous said...

My daughter doesn't play for Wildcats, she plays for a current top 5 NJ team. She has had a lot of interest from attending College ID camps and heavily communicating with coaches. Her club coach has helped a lot by contacting coaches on her behalf and following up after she has attended their camps. If your coach isn't doing that then you're at the wrong place.

Anonymous said...

It is a shame that kids have to pay to play soccer. The more you pay ensures your child will have exposure to be recruited by notable D1 schools. I am a parent of a child who can make a high ranked team such as PDA but I honestly cannot afford the yearly fee and travel costs (airfare, hotels etc). I have my child on a team and do pay monthly fees. I am not able to afford to have her attend college ID clinics costing over $500 a pop for a weekend camp. I can not believe the EDP ID camp costs as much as it does which limits the talent that is able to attend. A very good player that plays in the EDP/NPL league will be overlooked because her parents could not afford to have her attend the camp. It's a business and it is what it is. My daughter loves playing soccer and wants to play in college. I will make sure she plays on a top ten team in her age group and I hope she gets seen playing at tournaments by coaches. I'm realistic that my daughter will not be playing for UNC etc... Maybe because she is not on a ECNL team, but I do know she can play for some mid or lower D1 schools, D2 schools, and very academic D3 schools playing on her current team. The sad truth is that the majority of kids that will get nice academic scholarships are those that were able to afford to pay for ECNL teams and attend multiple ID camps, while those that can't afford it won't. I do believe that if a coach does see a standout player at a college showcase the player will be recruited and may be offered a scholarship. Just venting.....

Anonymous said...

Problem is that if your daughter is doing well but not playing on a top level team in a top level league in a top level flight.....then you really dont know how good she is. She is playing inferior competition.

Anonymous said...

I have a son 3rd year in school who plays D1 soccer and he was not on an academy team. I do know my daughter is good enough to at on a top team, our family just can't afford the yearly expense. It is crazy you believe only the best players are the top 5 ranked academy teams!!! Answer this question.... If you could not afford an academy team for your child what would you do? What other options would you have? You would do what a lot of parents in my situation do... Choose a top 20 club that plays in showcases to have your child seen. Don't knock the talent some children have , you wouldn't know because you never saw the child play. College coaches find those talented kids from non academy teams.

Anonymous said...

Not knocking it, just talking facts. Go to PDA and get a scholarship, they offer them. Top 20 is a joke (as are some PDA teams so dont think I am insane). The difference between the number 1 team and the number 20 team is night and day.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, disagree!! Look on Matchfit, S Jersey Barons, NJ Wildcats, NJSA etc.... See the kids playing D1 soccer alongside PDA players in college. You pay $ to be on a club to make sure your child is recruited which is why you are paying to have your child there. Kids on other top 20 teams play college alongside previous academy players check their websites you will be surprised. Stop knocking players and teams!!!! Again you have not seen some if these kids play . Stop judging.

Anonymous said...

Agree!!!! My daughter is on a top 10 non ECNL team!!! I too can not swing the academy fee and travel expenses .

Anonymous said...

No such thing as an academy in girls soccer. Just an exposure fee.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats! Yes very inexpensive.

Anonymous said...

A positive success story and I and sure there are plenty more.

A neighbor around the corner from us is playing at a D3 school. She played on a team that was a top 25 team. She received an academic scholarship.

Coaches at college showcases did come up to her and her club team coach to express an interest.

Anonymous said...

D3 is not the dream. It is a great story, and I wish her the best but it is not the dream.

Anonymous said...

Even a talented player on a very good town travel team can play D1. Personally know 2 girls who are going to a D1 school to play soccer.The team was proactive in attending college showcases and keeping contact with the college coaches. They did their homework and were very good at networking.

Anonymous said...

No one is saying that you cant play D1 coming from a town team. Dont forget to add up the college showcase events and ID camps as costs also.

Anonymous said...

D3 not a dream???? I guess it would be better being #30 on a high ranked D2 team when you can be starting 11 on D2 or D3 competitive team. 3 practice sessions a day, classes, studying and possibility not playing in games. Top teams such as PDA may get you on a team but do they care if your child actually plays?

Anonymous said...

2:41 If you are going to college to play soccer and you are not interested in her education, then by all means have your daughter choose any D1 school over a D3 school or choose a school where you think she will get the most game time.

There are plenty of D3 school's where their academic standing far exceeds many D1 schools. John Hopkins is one school that comes to mind over University of Maryland.

Why not choose the best school for your daughter where she can get the best education and the heck with playing soccer.

Anonymous said...

Pick your school first, soccer second. TCNJ the hardest NJ school to get into. Playing soccer can get your child admitted. Education first!

Anonymous said...

Interesting NJ Top 10 GotSoccer Updated this week...Why is MFA U16G in the U15G rankings?

1. NJ CRUSH FC CHARGE
2 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U16
3. PDA GUNNERS BLUE
4. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 98
5. NEW JERSEY RUSH 98 GIRLS
6. FC COPA ACADEMY CELESTE
7. NJSA 04 STING YELLOW NPL 8. NJ STALLIONS BEC
9. NJ WILDCATS LADY STRIKERS 10.JENYB ELITE TRAINING COBRAS

Anonymous said...

Some teams (for reasons unknown!) decide to change their birth year early in the got soccer system rather than letting it roll them over automatically on Aug 1st. You'll notice that O'Reilly are up at the U16 level and PDA Gunners are now at U15. The real "got soccer" rankings for U15 in NJ are:

1, NJ Crush
2, MF ECNL
3, STA
4, PDA O'Reilly
5, NJ Rush
6, JU
7, Copa
8, NJSA
9, NJ Stallions
10, NJ Wildcats

Anonymous said...

The gotsoccer system is not 100% automated to rankings. Our team manager sent a email out this week as it looked like our team diapered from the system and she changed nothing in the age section. She did complete the league applications for next years season and that may have something to do with it. I can imagine all the crazy parents with gotsoccer ranking OCD must be in tears this time of year with all the age groups mixed in. How will they survive this delicate period? With all the FtDix/ Hammonton MSSL events giving away 5000 points a weekend I can see violence in soccer parking lots in the near future. I can only imagine how many moms with nothing else to do have placed a call questioning why PDA Gunners are in the U15 ranking? xanax prescriptions have doubled for parents who have a daughter playing in a top 10 NJ.
With FC Copa in every tournament I can find on the web I am sure they will find a way to Number 1 in all age groups.
With high school soccer not far away and the chance for their little Alex Morgan to get her name in the paper could lead to some great blog postings! I for one can't wait to see who has something vindictive to say about a teenage girl.
For me it was a year of shared triumph in Jersey with PDA teams still on top winning in both ECNL and NPL! Congratulations to PDA OR for pushing it all the way in the ECNL Nationals and to Matchfit for a good first season. NJ and State Cup Champions NJ Rush and NJ United and Area NPL Champions PDA Impact and NJ United rounds out the U15 year. You don't need gotsoccer to know PDA are the best team at U15. These are the events to win with ECNL still the best of the bunch

Anonymous said...

My comment is for yesterdays chatter. We have had our daughter attend the EDP camp.
The camp was fine but I thought it was expensive for what we got out of it. With all the travel to out of state showcases I don't recommend applying money to the camp. Most premier teams attend 7-10 events a year which is a lot of soccer. I recommend attending specific 1 day ID camps and targeted college camps. EDP is just a league.
I also would like to go on record and say that D3 soccer can be a dream. D1 isn't everything in college ball. There are some dumb comments on this page. I suggest working towards your daughter having a good education and a happy life. It saddens me that there are many parents who want their daughter to play D1 so they can brag to their colleagues at work

Anonymous said...

Who is earning 5ooo points? No one. Even if you are a great team your rankings preclude you from getting that much.

Anonymous said...

July 18 5:11 This is for you: You are obviously a Copa hater for whatever reason. That's your problem. What difference does it make how many tournaments they enter? They win because they are a good team and are well coached. At US Club Nationals this weekend, they tied the #1 team from Minnesota, beat the #4 team from California North but unfortunately lost to the #2 team from Virginia (who deservedly won the entire tournament. They were outstanding!) Copa played their hearts out and had 3 great games against tough competition.

Maybe instead of bashing them and then heaping praise on the other teams you mentioned, just wish all the teams a job well done and then stop talking. Again, they are 15 year old girls playing a sport they love.

Anonymous said...

If everyone entered as many tournaments as Copa does, then they wouldn't win as many tournaments. The amount does make a difference. That being said... they are definetly a Top 10 team in NJ and shouldn't have to explain themselves to anyone.

And who is NJ United that the poster a few up wrote about??

Anonymous said...

I hate that I am even writing this as it sounds like a bash against copa also. But can somebody tell me what they won? I can't find much on the regional event they played in to get to nationals. I know all the top teams competed in the PDA Showcase that weekend.
I know they were in high brackets over the winter and spring because of the crazy gotsoccer system and the summer 2013 points they picked up. To show I am not bashing I am going to go on record and say they competed well and I do think they are good team definitely in the NJ top 10. But they only won a couple of league games this spring and went out in the early rounds of both state cups against other NJ top 10 teams. I wish Copa all the best next season

Anonymous said...

To answer the earlier poster question asking about who is NJ United. Looking at the event wins I think they are trying to say Jersey United

Anonymous said...

And why did Copa compete in the Southern Regionals and not the Mid Atlantic? That is very bizarre. One would assume they thought they couldn't win in the Mid Atlantic but perhaps someone from Copa can explain.

Anonymous said...

STA parents at it again. They beat Copa in State Cup and believe they are the better team.

Anonymous said...

COPA will chase the points, I think even the parents will admit to that. Still a good team, not great but who really is.

Anonymous said...



Sorry not an STA parent 7:06

All these teams can beat each other on any given day at this point except for O' Reilly I would say

Enjoy the HS season and get ready for the Nov. tournaments

Anonymous said...

Copa competed in the southern regionals because their coach also coaches the U14 team and they were playing at the USYS Region I championships in Rhode Island that weekend.

Anonymous said...

There you go COPA haters.

Anonymous said...

OOPS, so much for those connections Blues. Interesting timing.

Anonymous said...

What are you saying

Anonymous said...

Are PDA Blue and Shore merging their U15 teams?

Anonymous said...

Why would they, wouldnt that mean less money?

Anonymous said...

Where did you hear that? I cant imagine it being true if for no other reason the geography does not work.

Anonymous said...

So the Blues coach retired from Rutgers, wont get in the way of the Blues at all or will?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
internet says 40.2 miles from piscataway to end of route 18 south at wall(you can pick up parkway there at exit 98 or get onto 195 west).
Clearly 10 miles south from there(exit 88 on parkway) you would reach 50 miles from rutgers piscataway campus and soccer stadium at exit 88 on parkway, which is bricktown.Any players south of brick(even toms river is outside the 50 mile radius) who were coached or even trained by any rutgers coaches on pda teams in U15-U18 age groups over the last 14 years was in violation of ncaa 50 mile rule.

July 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
9:01pm -Here is the NCAA 50 rule from the NCAA website:

Institution's Coach Observing Prospective Student-Athletes While Acting in Capacity for Local Sports Club (I)

Date Published: November 7, 2012
Item Ref: 1
Educational Column:

Editor's Note: This column was updated June 20, 2013, to add additional questions to assist with membership clarification.

NCAA Division I institutions should note, pursuant to the local sports club legislation, in sports other than basketball, an institution's coach may be involved in any capacity (e.g., as a participant, administrator or in instructional or coaching activities) in the same sport for a local sports club or organization located in the institution's home community, provided all prospective student-athletes participating in said activities are legal residents of the area (within a 50-mile radius of the institution).

Very Clear.

July 24, 2014 at 9:20 PM

Anonymous said...

What is your point? Are you saying that the Blues coach violated NCAA rules? PDA draws players from over 50 miles away so maybe all are NCAA violations.

Anonymous said...

Is that why you think Shore and Blues are merging? Still would make no sense. PDA should focus on Impact, they already have Blues playing for them and it will make a stronger team. Blues seem ok, but they have some that I cant imagine being able to play at a low level or even HS level.

Anonymous said...

Impact lost several starters including their stud goalie. Added players for their own roster of 24 + some from OR. Team will implode as soon as players realize how much playing time they are going to get.

Anonymous said...

Within 50 miles of the institution means within 50 miles of the college they work for, not the soccer club.
The reason the rule exists is to limit the college coaches contact to players in the immediate area of their college, local players.
It eliminates college coaches from bringing in high school age players(student athletes-recruits) from all over and developing relationship with them thru training and coaching them during periods when other college coaches do not have access to them(not even allowed to approach or speak to them until their senior year).
How many campuses pda or matchfit has is irrelevant.College coaches cannot work with high school players who live more than 50 miles from their institution.
Looking on Top Drawer Soccer Site many of the pda commits to Rutgers from class of 2012 were from way down in south jersey, while 50 miles due south from rutgers brings you to Brick area.
If Big Ten /NCAA is looking tino this will it effect eligibility of rutgers player who may have been trained and coached by rutgers coaches at pda club in violation of 50 mile rule!

Anonymous said...

Interesting.

24 players is too many. That automatically means 6 dont even get rostered for a game. You can effectively play 15-16 per game leaving at least 8 unhappy girls/parents.

Anonymous said...

To 11:20 above - how does that rule work with regards to the college ID camps and summer soccer residential camps that different colleges host?

Anonymous said...

That is not continuous coaching/training.

Anonymous said...

Exactly, according to above ncaa 50 mile rule quoted above from their website both pda club and rutgers univ womens soccer has repeatedly broken this rule for the last 14 years. This will certainly affect rutgers move to the big ten as this is not the cowboy big east with Calhoun at uconn, bod huggins at cinn and West Virginia, etc.
the big Ten has northwestern, Purdue, Michigan , etc. and these are among the top academic institutions in the country.
those big east coaches were so busy trying to stay out of trouble and covering their own that they didn't have much time to worry about what the other schools in the big east were doing.
that is not the case in the big ten and rutgers recent toubles and scandals in mens bball have caused the rutgers administration to take a hard look at situations in ALL their sports that could cause more embarrassment as they move to big ten this fall.

Anonymous said...

I'm only seeing 21 rostered to Impact. Mostly coming from Rush and MF NPL. Could make the team stronger.

Why did GotSoccer drop Jefferson Cup points already? Strange. Must be a mistake. So unreliable.

Anonymous said...

I am still waiting to hear how rostering more than 20 players benefits the players???

someone explain it to me??

Anonymous said...

New Rutgers womans head coach also a big wig at PDA so that isnt why ex Rutgers coach is no longer there.

Anonymous said...

Watch, the new Rutgers coach will resign from DOC at PDA and also as PDA coach of high school aged teams. All related.
Either:
1- PDA must stop employing rutgers coaches as PDA coaches/trainers .

or

2 - PDA must stop rostering players who live more than 50 miles from rutgers institution(players who live south of Brick).

In addition to not being allowed to coach or train them,College coaches cannot even speak to players or parents of high school age players until their senior year of hs.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was Jr. year.

Anonymous said...

No, college coaches can write them beginning summer before junior year but no phone or in person contact before summer before senior year.

Anonymous said...

How are kids committing as sophmores and junoirs then? All through coaches?

Anonymous said...

Yes, college coaches through contact with club coaches are able to assess a club players interest in their program and pass along their interest in the player.
It goes both ways and either side often initiates the contact.
also remember that at their own expense youth players can visit a college campus at ANY age and stop in to a coaches office or better still make an appointment.
In the case of rutgers and pda the club coaches and college coaches are one and the same so they have circumvented the 50 mile rule which allows them to deal directly with the player(and often the parents) which is against ncaa rules and therefore an unfair recruiting advantage.

Anonymous said...

2 years ago pparents and players from toms river,beachwood and njsa were sold a pipe dream called matchfit ecnl. Fast forward only a few are still on ecnl and outside of 1 they don't see much playing time . The rest have vacated back to njsa ,pda impact and sja crew. The same guy that sold matchfit is now selling the crew ! Amazing . Saw the crew play this weekend , they lost to a very below average team from VA , Nothing has changed.

Anonymous said...

What tournament was played this weekend!

Anonymous said...

Oops...Meant to have a ? at the end of that question..

Anonymous said...

MSSL summer showcase in Hammonton

Anonymous said...

I find it interesting how some these same parents, who didn't like each other and badmouthed each other's kids, are back together. How long until they repeat?

Anonymous said...

The cancer of that group is now at NJSA.

Anonymous said...

With the crazy coach..........nice match.

Anonymous said...

LOL

Anonymous said...

Lol is right! That former coach plus another one, both had very successful teams, but destroyed them for the hope that their daughter would play for Matchfit ECNL. One never made it, and the other, well, does she even play soccer anymore?

Anonymous said...

U talking NJSA

Anonymous said...

nope

Anonymous said...

TR Fusion and Beachwood. That's what their talking about. Can't you figure this out, it's always about the state championship Beachwood coach and his Jackets and TR Fusion team and there state championship. Either team is worth even talking about so let it go man.... Yes NJSA coach is a little coo koo, but what coach isn't coo koo for coaching these girls with parents like you guys.......Nutz I say, Nutz.

Anonymous said...

Nice camp Rutgers. NOT. Planned poorly and box dinners ??? Really. Maybe the new coach will care

Anonymous said...



That's a shame and poor by people running the camp.

They should be rolling out the red carpet and serving lobster if they want some of these girls to consider going there.

Seems to be in line with how the football program loses the blue chip recruits from schools out of state

Anonymous said...

Money grab as always. HC didnt even seem to care according to my daughter.

Anonymous said...



Which HC ?

The one that just resigned or was it the so called new HC ?

I could see the coach that just "resigned" not caring but if new HC, not a good way to start

Anonymous said...

Resigned? Yeah, leaving the year they join the Big Ten makes sense.

Anonymous said...

yep, work hard to get them there and then walk? only if you are afraid they won't do well?

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know why the head coach for Rutgers resigned or retired? He is fairly young to retire.
Did anything happened?

Anonymous said...

Of course, but we will never know.

Anonymous said...

The Rutger's coach said he is leaving to pursue sports commentating after providing commentating for Sky Blue according to the Rutgers website. The Rutgers Women's team reigns have been turned over to Mike O'Neil who has been his assistant for years.

hardly any controversy here...

Mike O'Neil is also a PDA coach so the mileage issue someone referred to seems to be inconsequential.

Anonymous said...

Crooks as a commentator? He barely has a pulse as it is, how can he do that?

Anonymous said...

This may give you an idea
http://www.ratemycoaches.com/coach.php?id=3140&name=coach-glenn-crooks

Anonymous said...

As the youth soccer calendar rolls into another year, I can't hold back from pointing out the emergence of a new number one team in the state,

To all you doubters and haters of this group and of mf in general, a year ago on this very same blog, remember that the cream always rises to the top. PDA will no doubt reclaim this spot sometime soon, but for now, a quality group of girls must be recognized for what they have accomplished in such a short time together.

You will continue to hear a lot of great things from this group.

Anonymous said...

Not a lot of good things said on that site.

Anonymous said...

seriously? thump your chest more dad. has your team beaten O'Reilly? until that happens and happens consistently, the best MF ECNL will be is #2.

GS Rankings are exactly what they are....the only flawed system in which we have to flight teams for tournaments.

Anonymous said...

well I will be taking RU off my daughter's list of schools. LOL

sounds like the new HC will have a pretty easy job. Can't treat players any badly? only place to go is up.

Anonymous said...

Yes your daughter is on their radar LOL

Anonymous said...

MF Chest Thumper...you have over 3,000 points that will drop off very soon and I see nothing to replace them. Enjoy your 2 weeks on the top!

Anonymous said...

Be honest guys, MF is a great team. PDA OR is a great team. Cant we have 2? They should play!

Anonymous said...

if that were true it would be fine.

MF ECNL is not even on the same level. doubt it will happen.

no, not a PDA parent.

Anonymous said...

One day it should happen. No doubt PDA is a great team. But they should stop hiding behind that wall. Come out and play some of the teams in your state, if not for your own benefit and to shut up the haters and doubters, then do it to promote the game and how it should be played. Show us all what we can aspire to.

Anonymous said...

ECNL Northeast Conference Games:
March 29, 2014 -PDA 2- Match Fit 1
May 1, 2014 - PDA 3 - Match Fit 0

Anonymous said...

ECNL Northeast Conference Games:
March 29, 2014 -PDA 2- Match Fit 1
May 1, 2014 - PDA 3 - Match Fit 0

Anonymous said...

We all know that GotSoccer points mean nothing. The original poster even stated that PDA was the rightful owner of number 1 so I don't know what the issue is. People gonna hate... no one on here can stand to hear another team get a compliment.

Impressed that MF scored against PDA. Not many teams do.

SJA Crew beat PDA Impact this weekend if anyone cares.

Anonymous said...

Sja ? I see from their website who is involved. And recognize some players names from other clubs in Monmouth/ocean area. Where are they based out of for games and practices?

Anonymous said...

The MF girl that scored against OReilly is now on OReilly.

Anonymous said...

That's actually wrong. Different girl.

But I can't say I'm surprised that OR is still snatching players from other clubs. They have 3 other teams at this age level. Why not promote from within?

Anonymous said...

Why would PDA promote from within when they can have 4 teams generating income. Simple math. There is movement between the other teams, although it may be movement made by the players and not the club itself.

Anonymous said...

PDA Shore is now listed and they have points. I thought this was a new team but I guess they took a team in and added players to it. What team were they?

Anonymous said...

Toms River Galaxy. And I do seem to recall an announcement of a partnership between TR and PDA. This makes sense.

I don't know how many girls came across.

Anonymous said...

what does it matter? MF Thunder GS spot was taken by MF North Black. as far as I know there isn't one girl from Thunder on Black's roster.

why should anyone else follow GS rules?

Anonymous said...

i dont even know where the galaxy played.

Anonymous said...

is it a matter of a team/coach/admin following GS rules, or for GS to mandate and check that points are not inherited by a newly established team unless the roster contains a certain percentage of girls from a disbanding team that owned those points. Not sure what the percentage is, or how you go about proving a team is disbanding.


Or even a case where a team of 16 has 9 girls leaving. 7 stay. Team stays in club. Keeps same name. Same coach and adds 7 new players. Who keeps the points ?

Does the team with the 7 players lose their points.

Not a likely scenario I supposed.

Anonymous said...

Did njsa form any teams. I thought they had lost all players to pad shore

Anonymous said...

SJA crew beat pda impact in a scrimmage. Impact is much weaker now - recent acquisitions were mostly non starters on their previous teams. Go NJSA Sting

Anonymous said...

SJA beat Impact at a tournament in Pennsylvania this passed weekend. West Chester tournament.

Anonymous said...

7:55, you forgot to mention how SJA Crew then lost to a 43rd ranked team in the semi-finals. In addition, beating PDA Impact is no great accomplishment these days considering they beat the Lady Dragons by only 1 goal. Keep drinking the kool-aid SJA parent.

Anonymous said...

All of the former and almost former Ecnl parent should take a chill pill. The impact and crew will not be playing against the top teams in the land. There wern't any D-1 scouts at the Westchester tournament . So just have your daughter play soccer for the fun of it. At this point even a lower D-1 school like Delaware is a reach LOL enjoy a successful HS career!

Anonymous said...

You think Delaware is a lower D1 school?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like 11:49 is a little whiner parent who has nothing better to do then bash people. So childish! My Mia is better than your Mia because she plays on the almighty ECNL team. Get a grip on life. To believe that your kid will be the only one playing D-1 soccer and all others will not is so rediculous. So many kids from non ECNL clubs are making up D-1 college rosters all over the country. You need to educate yourself before blogging such incorrect information and making yourself look like the biggest fool!

Anonymous said...

11:49 is not an ECNL parent. It's a specific attack made towards a specific child/parent and it's disgusting.

Anonymous said...

so since it is a dig at a specific kid, is it coming from another SJA parent?

Anonymous said...

Go NJSA Sting, does this team even exist anymore? I believe half the players went to MF and SJA? The only one left stranded is the player that didn't go to MF last year because she didn't make the ECNL team. Good luck NJSA Sting.

Anonymous said...

11:49 sounds like one of several parents who have always acted disgustingly entitled over the years, as if their kid is bound for glory throughout youth soccer, ODP, ECNL and then college.

The end game with these louses always appears to be getting a scholarship - I can't speak for others - but in some cases, possibly, to make a good college more affordable.

What goes on behind the scenes in these houses and drives to and from practices and games. Do the kids know that their performance in soccer is, in their parents minds, linked directly to their collegiate future ? There is no wonder that you can understand the mean-spiritedness of some of these girls.

We've got the equation so wrong in this country and I can't change it but kids should play sports for the love of the game only. The pressures they have should be solely based on what they place on themselves to aspire and be good or great on their team or move to the next level. Higher education and sports SHOULD NOT MIX. Period. This is not the only thing wrong with US soccer youth development, but it certain one big thing, that has a cascading effect all the way down the foodchain into how coaches behave, select and play players and why we do have parents that might make a post as distasteful as 11:49.

This iceberg runs much deeper - don't get me started ..... lol.

Anonymous said...

To my knowledge, NJSA Sting is just fine. Not sure why you have an issue.

Anonymous said...

sorry but Sting is the team that just won't give up. very high turnover every year.

how many stayed from last season?

Anonymous said...

11:49 wrote - just have your daughter play soccer for the fun of it.

Why does 11:49's daughter play soccer if not for the love of the game or fun of it ?

My daughter is playing soccer because --- fill in the blank ---

Two things:
1. If the answer is not "for the love and fun of it" there is a problem.
2. With 11:49 giving a dismissive kid is not good enough, so just let her enjoy, what are the other expectations placed upon a daughter such as 11:49's above and beyond. I would really like to hear 11:49 tell us why the girl plays.

11:49's duaghter may be gifted and D1 college / national pool material. Who knows. All the best to her. But does that mean that kids who are a notch or two down (TODAY) from 11:49 should not love the game as much, want to succeed as much, want to have as good an experience of training and teammates. If the kid wants it and the parents are willing to pay for it, why not see how far this notch or two below can take her game to.

What has me applauding is when the parents like 11:49 wake up one day and see the notch or two below girls has excelled beyond their kid, even though not through the exclusionary path that their daughter has taken. And make no mistake about it - This does happen, and it might happen to you. NJ soccer athletes playing in D1 schools DO NOT only come from PDA and MF or any other ECNL team. And I am sure that there are many ECNL players who do not get scholarshipts at D1 schools.

Anonymous said...

I know for a fact one MF player on an older team, was "committed" to a D1 school. Not on the college roster now. $hit happens! Be careful. It could happen to you too.

Anonymous said...

Maybe SHE changed her commitment.

Anonymous said...

NJSA lost 6 girls that I know of. They will fill their spots... they always do. And they remain a top 10 team.

Anonymous said...

6 girls out of how many? at 18 that is 1/3 turnover.....again.

at a roster of 14 or 15 (not counting the ones from the B team), that is sad.

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with njsa that they consistently turn over so many. To their credit, they don't fold. But why are people always moving out.

Anonymous said...

Is SJA a new academy? Where is it out of and where will their teams be playing Jags, NPL or EDP?
How is the training and player development?
very important questins before you commit to a team for the year!!

Anonymous said...

SJA = last year's MF U15 NPL coach went on his own. took his favorites (mostly former MF Surge players) with him. his niece and the keeper are two that left NJSA to join him.

player dev?

Anonymous said...

5:19 re: SJA player dev, not likely. There was none with coach at MF. Can't see it happening with his new team.

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