Note: This age bracket brings several players moving around and teams realigning to go up against the traditional heavy hitters. They tell their stories here.
A/B licensed coaches are usually coaching at the college or national level. The classes for those licenses are like a week long. Most club/academy coaches have C licenses, some have only a D. F licenses are most commonly found at the town level. "Daddy Ball"
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I'm glad to see that Copa is back to being competitive by adding those girls from Branchburg. They were really starting to lose their edge there for awhile. Just goes to show, anything can happen/change in girls soccer. Too bad for Branchburg Fusion though.
Always good to see a team who has struggled start to succeed. Hope for COPA it is due to more than just adding some players.
As far as coaches and lisences. All things being equal, the same coach with an A lisence will be better than if he had a lower level. However, don't kid yourself into thinking that there are not better E/D lisenced coaches out there that are better than many higher level, so-called, qualified coaches.
It really comes down to a couple things that no coaching lisence will give you:
- understanding of the game and how to teach the technical, tactical and emotional aspects of it
- relating to players, communicating to players, recognition of players'(individual strengths and deficiencies) and teaching and motivating players to maximize strengths and improve in deficient aspects of their game.
Just like any other profession, people can go to college and get bachelors, masters, doctorates etc. But some accountants are way better than others. Lawyers to. Doctors. You can go on. They key difference maker is rarely the degree, but instead, what are the other factors and intangibles that they bring to the job. These are the things you should look for.
Copa has made it clear that it is because of the players they have added. They will have more turnover this spring as players have lost significant playing time.
A licenses are expensive and have to be renewed every couple of years. Many stop at B licenses as those do not need to be renewed. Not sure if you need an A license to coach a club team anyway.
No one from Copa said that. Copa is strong and will stay strong. Copa will make a great run through the NJ Cup competition and will gain more credibility.
I read on here the other day that Surge was going to tank and fail in the premier league. Looks like they had a great first day of competition.... 1 Draw and 1 Win. Seems like a great start to me.
I highly doubt that any O'Reilly players would show up but I get your point. When Thunder started two years ago, they started from scratch, won one tournament and were in the top 20... it's not that difficult. Winslow U14 has only played in one tournament and is in the top 20. IF the new MF team has to start from scratch they can win or place in 2 summer tournaments and be in the top 10. No biggie.
MF is NOT taking the Surge OR the Thunder as the ECNL team. They are holding tryouts and selecting the best of both teams and whomever else shows up that deserves to be on the ECNL team.
What is with you people pitting those two teams against each other all the time? Both have good players. They will put the best team possible together and there will be a team for everyone else.
Think about it. Surge if they don't win anything by the end of the Spring will be on close to zero points. Thunder are just in the top 20. So neither team will be bringing many points to the table right now
With ECNL Got Soccer points are meaningless. There are required events ECNL teams must attend and they are placed in the ECNL brackets accordingly. These satisfy their ECNL play so stop worrying about the points.
As for names, the team names will go away and they will be called MF U15 ECNL or something to that effect.
Start scrambling now. Your opinion on your daughter will not match the opinion of the evaluators. Now what? MF has practice players now, do they think they will magically get moved up?
Really? If that is the case then the playing field is tainted. If they practice in Berkeley that eliminates players from different locations. If a northern location has been chosen then you have the same issue. The only way to truly have a fair plan is to see who makes the team and move on from there.
Does it make sense to have numerous kids tryout, make the team and then have to turn it down because they can not make the commute. I would think you would want to know if the distance to the practice facilities was doable before you waste the coaches time.
Tryouts have not even started yet. Why all the banter? Try out and if it fits your needs then make the commitment. Otherwise act like grown ups and pass the kool aide. My favorite flavor is cherry red as Mick Jagger once said.5
I am assuming that the team will be based out of the Raritan HS site since that is where try outs are. There is contact info. Send them an email if you are that curious.
copa lost to Marlboro on Pks. Copa have to many opportunity but can't finish Marlboro. Marlboro add a few NJX Milan and it help. Tied with Surge last week 2-2 and beat Copa last night. Marlboro is my favor to upset this group.
COPA here. I dont believe that we were saying how great we were but rather stating that we have gotten better, and we have. The game vs Marlboro was a good one, but one that COPA controlled. Give the Marlboro defenders some credit as we have a few girls that are fast and have good skills. Good luck to Marlboro in their next game and I am sure we will see you again soon.
Who is Surge competitive with. Certainly not the likes of O'reilly and YMS. Their coach promised the world and delivered nothing. By the end of May when Surge will no longer exist all of the Fusion points will be gone. This coach will be rewarded by being allowed to coach the future Matchfit NPL team. That is because Matchfit is a Paterno like organization with no oversight. Matchfit does not develop players, they take developed players and teams from elsewhere. Now the Surge coach will move on to the NPL team with his niece with no guarantee for the other players that he promised to develop.
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poster 1133am Surge was doomed from the word go!! Trying to mix the TR and Beachwood crew is not working apparently . You also seem very uptight about the coach promising things. The fact of matter is thise teams did not know how to play the game of soccer. TR played kick and run to the fast girl , Beachwood kinda of the same way. At age U14 this is what these children know, who to blame for that !!! I would say past coaches are to be blamed..Now the kids need to learn another system , guess what , they are struggling. If you are not happy with the program , leave . NJ has a ton programs to play at . And I can tell you that you are a Fusion parent by the way you talk about the points are gonna be gone. MatchFit does not develop players , what did your last coach do for your kid, ask yourself that question . You will find out what went wrong
NJSA, ha! Is that still even a club for the girls? Especially when at least one of their players is playing on two teams. Covering all bases? How does THAT make any sense? Is that even allowed (by the "rules")?
And the season has just begun. This will be a fun season, and many will be on the outside looking in. u-14 is the most important year. The grass is not always greener when the player is only playing less the a half.
poster 1:13 If I sound like a fusion parent, you sound like the surge coach's brother. The Fusion girls did very well last spring and would have been better off staying together and having Kemal assist as a bench coach. Also, having the other Fusion players that did not go to the Surge would have been more beneficial then having the Beachwood group. But the Surge coach proclaimed that he could convert everybody into soccer players and obviously he could not.
3:15 It doesn't seem like she is "secret double carded" if this is being discussed on a open forum. How is this being allowed? Does the state/the affected leagues know? Are they just turning a blind eye?
Know the system, it is allowed. US Club is very liberal and you can almost get away with anything you want. The only issue will be the two coaches pulling for her to join their team next year. She wont be staying at NJSA, no way.
336 poster LOL , 325pm sorry for the delay , busy day here .Unfortunately Im not ,but I do happen to know them both. For your info , I also happen to know your previous coaches very well and play . LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR . Did I leave TR for the right thing , or am I just drinking the kool-aid. Or was I hoping for something better and was not happy whit the team my kid was previously on ,did it help her (development) ask all the questions you need , and the answers will follow . Also Copa is better people
Copa are better people? Well you now have more time to spend with them since you are knocked out of the state cup. Maybe COPA should spend more time developing and less time on here.
More contradictions. If TR and BW didn't teacher soccer the correct way, and the Surge coach had to start over from scratch, I would consider his job a success. They haven't had any major blowouts except against exceptional teams, they've beaten Crush and Jersey United. I would say he's done a damm good job of developing players. Wonder where they would be in a year or two?
I also don't think you should be discussing particular children on this site. Not good.
poster 4:49 Yea right the surge had a problem with the Rage and Mt Laurel. The coach and his assistant are not Academy trainers. Only now he gets to skip to another team.
MF will be just fine. The only issue they will have is when your daughter doesnt make the ECNL team what do you do then? Pay top dollar to play for a team equivalent to many of the teams they are losing too today? Buy into what they are saying, or make the smart choice? Who is the ECNL coach? Why havent they announced it?
dude: 1:29 PM May be you should learn HOW to read. this is U14 blog and Bucci is name on 4 teams and Jordan only 2 teams per poster 12:55pm question. Your girl won't make it to ENCL and they only want the best player.
Maybe everyone should really start to think. There are two ways to fix all of this and stop this nonsense.
1) One Unified Carding system and no double carding. 2) Draw boundaries based on where kids live. You must play within the boundaries, just like High School. 3) Do away with paid coaching.
Or the quickest easiest way.
1) PARENTS STOP PAYING!!!!!!!!
Is everyone stupid?? This is about money for all involved, the coaches and the clubs. ECNL would not exist if not for this. It is all about money, not your kid.
Do the smart thing and start worrying about your kids education. I bet most of you worry about these teams and players more than your own kids grades in school. MOST if not ALL the kids you talk about will never make a dime from soccer whether it be a college scholarship or their professional career.
Spend your money wisely, worry about how your tax money is being wasted on high paid public employees instead of who is playing where and how much will it cost. Teach your kid the real values of life and stop stalking other kids and their teams.
I think most of the people posting here are drinking more than just Kool Aid. PATHETIC!!!
Yes U14 right now. The teams they are talking about, Surge and Thunder are U14 right now. The tryouts they are referring to will be for these same girls who will be U15 ECNL. That is what everyone here is talking about.
Bucci is named on multiple teams, and ass, I wasnt only looking at the ECNL team. Raper huh, interesting since they are still calling around asking people to coach.
I was told, and please give me your opinion, that PDA O'Reilly is the darling of PDA. That no other PDA team has the record, recognition, or talent that they do??
there is always a top PDA team. one age that is more successful than the others no matter what. yes mom, O'Reilly is that team for the past few years and for the moment. happy?
I'm glad to see that O Reilly had some competition at their tournament this weekend. Lots of 1-0 wins. I'm sure they get sick of blowing everyone out all of the time!
MF final was very exciting, great game played by both teams.
Congrats to Crush, JU, O'Reilly and all the other NJ teams that were finalists and semi-finalists.
What I would like to know is, why did the MF teams play against teams that were ranked 41 & 71? There were other teams in their tournament that were ranked higher but put in the lower division?
I don't know why, but if you care to scrutinize any other tournament, you will see that this happens quite often. I assume coaches request??
At the Spirit Tournament in the fall, my daughters team played in a bracket with teams who were ranked significantly higher than hers. My other daughter played in a bracket where 1 team was ranked extremely low... we thought we would kill them, and they actually weren't bad. You never know. Points don't mean much. Depends on how many tournaments they play in, recent turnover etc. Who knows....
Poster 10:13 AM. Yuo are correct. NJSA's coach and some players @ PDA tournament this weekend and they are not in any bracket. May scout new player for his ECNL's team?
10:17: Seriously? If you recall NJX Milan played 2 scrimmages vs MF back in Feb and lost both. Who can't hold a candle to whom? Also, nice showing for them at PDA this past weekend. Not! So keep drinking your NJX Koolaid and leave MF to the pros.
dont worry MF, no one thinks NJX is better then you. Question is who will you be in 2 months. No one knows, no one. Your darling may be crawling to NJX or worse when you realize what you will be paying and notice that the teams in your surrounding towns are just as good as the competition you will be facing.
NJX will be part of MF. May the best player will be pick for ECNL in April and most of them will be NJX. Surge is not competitive any more and Thunder never a a good team from beginning.
3:02: And I quote: "Thunder can't even hold the candle for NJX Milan. Most of Milan will be in ECNL".
So yes, 10:17 thought they were better than MF. A little cocky considering their record of late. They may have 1 or 2 players that MIGHT make ECNL but other than that, b/c team at best.
I think what everyone fails to realize is that the tryouts are OPEN tryouts. That means ANYONE can come. Yes, there are probably girls on the 2 MF teams that will make ECNL and possibly a few from NJX and then ANY other girls that are really good will make that team. It's not limited to only the MF/affiliate teams. They are going to pick the BEST so they have a great team.
LMAO...This stuff is hysterical, Looks like I don't have to watch Martin Lawrences stand up comedy night tonight, I can just go on the youth soccer talk and get a better laugh. You people are absolutely nutz. Leave all these teams alone, they all have a great quality. Do you want to know what that is? Well I will tell you, they are 14 year human beings unlike yourselves for eveb=n getting on here and bashing any of them. The sad thing is, not one of you on here have a clue about the game of soccer. So maybe you should sit down and learn from your kids, because they will definitely teach you a thing or 2.
Funny stuff. ecnl not all that. but that's ok, by expanding to more and more clubs as in the draft plan, ecnl gets watered down more and more each season. Two new clubs in PA , another in NJ,and ecnl might pull out of Maryland. Bethesda has its B teams playing ecnl. Virginia has more premier elite ultimate leagues then anyone and ecnl is just average in VA.
njx milan are a comedy show, and matchfit are just as fun. it's bad what happens at njx - it's a grownups comedy show. the goalkeeper and the powerful defender from njx could make the ecnl team, no one else is quite good enough from what I see. no doubt the managers girl will make it, she pops up everywhere cause mommy and daddy pay $$$s.
Matchfit is all ready talking to who they want on the ECNL team from Surge, Milan, and Thunder -- no more than 11 girls. So if you have not been contacted odds are kids who go to the OPEN tryout will get the remaining ECNL roster spots.
12:00: The ECNL team can roster up to 26. Unless your player is one of the chosen, stay off the forum if you have nothing definitive to contribute and stop the rumor mill.
Is that really surprising? If I ran MF or my name was Bucci that is what I would do. Why pretend to go through a tryout and hope you get it right when you can look at past performance. Sorry if that doesnt seem fair, but it is easily the correct way to do it.
so where can a dedicated lower income soccer player play in ocean county? Since all this matchfit crap all the competitve teams are gone and only the expensive academy teams are left. Whats a parent do when thats all there child wants to do but you dont have the 4 to do it?
why cant anyone just give an answer worth hearing on this stupid form!!!! I said she was dedicated and she works hard at playing that doesnt mean im bragging about her im asking for help on where would be a cheaper option than the academy teams. but still be competitve and worth putting in the time. So stop being a Jack ass or is that all thats left on this blog.
Wasnt being a jackass, just stating the facts. If she is that good, let her try and they will pay for her. I guess you have determined that she isnt good enough.
But 3:22 we all know that isn't going to happen. All the players on both teams aren't that strong. Some are, yes.
As far as 30 players on a roster, whatever the actual number, only 18 can ever dress for a game. That means numbers 19 on down, will most likely not see much, if any, playing time.
I'd rather have my kid play on a team where they were actually playing in games.
So true 4:09. Years from now, some of these parents will look back and realize how ridiculous they behaved. I only hope that their daughters don't pay the price for it.
Ecnl roster is 26 players . Have fun getting playing time. When those assistants of the assistant coach comes to a so called showcase, they will say , yeah, she looked pretty good for 20 minutes.Only because they traveled 10 hours to have two blow outs of 4 or 5 to nil and play 20 minutes. Not a starter? go away!
I WAS THINKING OF BRINGING MY DAUGHTER TO THE THE MF TRYOUTS AND IN RESEARCHING THE COACHES I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE NEW NJX COACH FROM MF SHE HAS A VERY IMPRESSIVE RESUME'
1:27pm. She has an impressive "playing" resume. Not a single word about her coaching in that bio. Good players don't necessarily make good coaches and to jump to the conclusion that they do is very short sighted.
1:27 not jumping to conclusions but the odds are in her favor with that resume that she would be a good coach. Not many coaches at this age group have that experience.
id2 camp is terrible. A popularity contest. Better to stay with your team and support them on wins , then to miss games for a poor camp. If the TEAM does well, the colleges will come with little effort. Right now colleges are coming to RI games and some ecnl games. Big Showcase tourneys and probably be a few coaches at State Cup finals. Over heard a coach last weekend that he was heading down to Maryland SoccerPlex to watch 3-4 Cup games.
MF tryouts are coming, NJSA will lose players, MF players will realize they will not make the same level teams and that doesnt even include the top level players trying out from other clubs. It will make for a strange couple of weeks.
And these top level kids (IF any do come) would have to come from somewhere. JU? BEC? CRUSH? COPA? IF they believe that ECNL is the way go. Should be a very interesting next few weeks. Hoping my daughter lands where we want.
From somewhere, yes but dont exclude ANY club. You could have a poor team but they could still have a great player. Dont make the mistake of thinking they are not out there. Oh by the way, if your daughter was on the ECNL radar, you would already know it.
ecnl rosters up to 30 players.Most have 24-28 players. Lots of playing time in the few games that they have. plus the travel to.... Ecnl should buy a plane or planes.
That was the point. For those that think you are good because you are on a good team or poor because you are on a poor team, think again. (or ask NJSA)
3:06 - Out of those 30 players how many do you think travel to all of these events? Or do you think they divide the girls up? You need a deep roster because not all of the same girls travel to each event.
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Coaches license A - F. F is the lowest and what the local travel soccer coach who is a parent needs to get according to state. A is the highest.
So F stands for local Daddy coach at pda? Match Fit here we come.
That's funny because isn't there a MF Head Coach at this age group coaching his daughter?
A/B licensed coaches are usually coaching at the college or national level. The classes for those licenses are like a week long. Most club/academy coaches have C licenses, some have only a D. F licenses are most commonly found at the town level. "Daddy Ball"
I found this one funny:
"The players that stick out and will succeed are the ones who have it all: speed, skill, knowledge, toughness, mental toughness, determination, has no fear, has a true passion for the game and HEART, miles of it!"
Until she meets a boy!
or one of the 11 pda Daddy coaches yells at her.
Girls soccer......... What's the point? Really. Like watching them play under water.
I'm glad to see that Copa is back to being competitive by adding those girls from Branchburg. They were really starting to lose their edge there for awhile. Just goes to show, anything can happen/change in girls soccer. Too bad for Branchburg Fusion though.
Copa, Copa, Copa. Anyone else tired of hearing about them?
Always good to see a team who has struggled start to succeed. Hope for COPA it is due to more than just adding some players.
As far as coaches and lisences. All things being equal, the same coach with an A lisence will be better than if he had a lower level. However, don't kid yourself into thinking that there are not better E/D lisenced coaches out there that are better than many higher level, so-called, qualified coaches.
It really comes down to a couple things that no coaching lisence will give you:
- understanding of the game and how to teach the technical, tactical and emotional aspects of it
- relating to players, communicating to players, recognition of players'(individual strengths and deficiencies) and teaching and motivating players to maximize strengths and improve in deficient aspects of their game.
Just like any other profession, people can go to college and get bachelors, masters, doctorates etc. But some accountants are way better than others. Lawyers to. Doctors. You can go on. They key difference maker is rarely the degree, but instead, what are the other factors and intangibles that they bring to the job. These are the things you should look for.
Copa has made it clear that it is because of the players they have added. They will have more turnover this spring as players have lost significant playing time.
A licenses are expensive and have to be renewed every couple of years. Many stop at B licenses as those do not need to be renewed. Not sure if you need an A license to coach a club team anyway.
No one from Copa said that. Copa is strong and will stay strong. Copa will make a great run through the NJ Cup competition and will gain more credibility.
I bet Branchburg Fusion won't go very far this year.
I read on here the other day that Surge was going to tank and fail in the premier league. Looks like they had a great first day of competition.... 1 Draw and 1 Win. Seems like a great start to me.
so next year MF is going to have...
ECNL team
NPL team
berkeley club team
holmdel club team
where does milan fit into that?
who get which points? ECNL takes surge or thunders? that means that 9 of their current players will be staying on each of those teams?
Assuming better players don't try out
they could have the entire O'Reilly team show up and they still need to retain 10 (50+ %) to carry their GS points or they start from scratch.
I highly doubt that any O'Reilly players would show up but I get your point. When Thunder started two years ago, they started from scratch, won one tournament and were in the top 20... it's not that difficult. Winslow U14 has only played in one tournament and is in the top 20. IF the new MF team has to start from scratch they can win or place in 2 summer tournaments and be in the top 10. No biggie.
ya think?
MF is NOT taking the Surge OR the Thunder as the ECNL team. They are holding tryouts and selecting the best of both teams and whomever else shows up that deserves to be on the ECNL team.
What is with you people pitting those two teams against each other all the time? Both have good players. They will put the best team possible together and there will be a team for everyone else.
We know that, and no one is pitting. We are just trying to figure out which name they are going to use.
what is with "you people" ASSuming anyone is plotting them against each other? sorry you're so sensitive about the whole thing.
Lets see, did Toms River walk away from their points? What did they do to keep them? Now you know what will happen.
Think about it. Surge if they don't win anything by the end of the Spring will be on close to zero points. Thunder are just in the top 20. So neither team will be bringing many points to the table right now
So lets just throw the season!!! That is a great solution.
830am-What problem was there that required a solution?!?
With ECNL Got Soccer points are meaningless. There are required events ECNL teams must attend and they are placed in the ECNL brackets accordingly. These satisfy their ECNL play so stop worrying about the points.
As for names, the team names will go away and they will be called MF U15 ECNL or something to that effect.
Start scrambling now. Your opinion on your daughter will not match the opinion of the evaluators. Now what? MF has practice players now, do they think they will magically get moved up?
What is the point to be in ECNL when they can't even win a game against town teams. Save your money and time!!!
What town team?
Anyone know where the U15G MF ECNL team will be practicing?
Marlboro, Mount Laurel etc....
How would anyone know where a team that doesnt yet exist will be practicing?
Where do you find the scores to know any of this?
To 11:39am....I am sure there is a plan for this team. You dont just decide to start a team and not know where they will play.
Really? If that is the case then the playing field is tainted. If they practice in Berkeley that eliminates players from different locations. If a northern location has been chosen then you have the same issue. The only way to truly have a fair plan is to see who makes the team and move on from there.
Does it make sense to have numerous kids tryout, make the team and then have to turn it down because they can not make the commute. I would think you would want to know if the distance to the practice facilities was doable before you waste the coaches time.
So we agree, unfair circumstances.
Tryouts have not even started yet. Why all the banter? Try out and if it fits your needs then make the commitment. Otherwise act like grown ups and pass the kool aide. My favorite flavor is cherry red as Mick Jagger once said.5
Kool Aide analogy is old... be original.
I am assuming that the team will be based out of the Raritan HS site since that is where try outs are. There is contact info. Send them an email if you are that curious.
Anyone know MF v RAGE NJ Cup score? Played tonight i think.
So did Copa and Marlboro.
MF lost as expected. COPA should have beat Marlboro.
So Surge beat Crush on Saturday and lost to Rage last night? Odd. Pks maybe??
COPA should have beaten Marlboro? Why? What has Copa done to get this acclaim (other than come on this board ans self annoit themselves).
copa lost to Marlboro on Pks. Copa have to many opportunity but can't finish Marlboro. Marlboro add a few NJX Milan and it help. Tied with Surge last week 2-2 and beat Copa last night. Marlboro is my favor to upset this group.
New Jersey Rush Nike VS Marlboro in final!!!!!
Marlboro added players????? Not sure what medication you are on but they lost players and barely have enough to field a team.
Marlboro had just enough players to field a team and yet they beat Copa with 20 girls on their roster. Well done!
Now this is funny. For the past couple of weeks all we hear about is Copa, Copa, Copa. We added players, we beat this team, we are this and that.
COPA here. I dont believe that we were saying how great we were but rather stating that we have gotten better, and we have. The game vs Marlboro was a good one, but one that COPA controlled. Give the Marlboro defenders some credit as we have a few girls that are fast and have good skills. Good luck to Marlboro in their next game and I am sure we will see you again soon.
How come you controlled the game and can't finish it? and what happen to all your subs?
Didnt finish on this day, that is true. I didnt say we cant finish. What are you getting at with the subs, I have no say over any of that.
Dont worry about MF teams this year, they will all be completely different next year. As it stands now, they are competitive and will only get better.
Nobody is worried about MF teams besides current MF parents.
So the "MF lost as expected" quote came from a MF parent?
Who is Surge competitive with. Certainly not the likes of O'reilly and YMS. Their coach promised the world and delivered nothing. By the end of May when Surge will no longer exist all of the Fusion points will be gone. This coach will be rewarded by being allowed to coach the future Matchfit NPL team. That is because Matchfit is a Paterno like organization with no oversight. Matchfit does not develop players, they take developed players and teams from elsewhere. Now the Surge coach will move on to the NPL team with his niece with no guarantee for the other players that he promised to develop.
Bitter arent you? That team will not be for everyone, feel free to tryout at Holmdel unless of course they dont want you either.
ECNL MFC will have combination of Milan, surge and Thunder. By next season what team will be stay alive?
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poster 1133am Surge was doomed from the word go!! Trying to mix the TR and Beachwood crew is not working apparently . You also seem very uptight about the coach promising things. The fact of matter is thise teams did not know how to play the game of soccer. TR played kick and run to the fast girl , Beachwood kinda of the same way. At age U14 this is what these children know, who to blame for that !!! I would say past coaches are to be blamed..Now the kids need to learn another system , guess what , they are struggling. If you are not happy with the program , leave . NJ has a ton programs to play at . And I can tell you that you are a Fusion parent by the way you talk about the points are gonna be gone. MatchFit does not develop players , what did your last coach do for your kid, ask yourself that question . You will find out what went wrong
Poster 1:13 PM. But but we are want to be on the winning team at all cost.
1133AM Oh and the niece, she can play . Probably should of stayed at NJSA, or go to anywhere else but to Surge.
NJSA? Their coach has so many calls out he doesnt know which way is up. Talk about trying to cover your ass.
NJSA, ha! Is that still even a club for the girls? Especially when at least one of their players is playing on two teams. Covering all bases? How does THAT make any sense? Is that even allowed (by the "rules")?
And the season has just begun. This will be a fun season, and many will be on the outside looking in.
u-14 is the most important year. The grass is not always greener when the player is only playing less the a half.
Said the Copa parent.
NJSA girls playing on two teams is a fact. Yes they can be secret double carded and flip between leagues.
poster 1:13 If I sound like a fusion parent, you sound like the surge coach's brother. The Fusion girls did very well last spring and would have been better off staying together and having Kemal assist as a bench coach. Also, having the other Fusion players that did not go to the Surge would have been more beneficial then having the Beachwood group. But the Surge coach proclaimed that he could convert everybody into soccer players and obviously he could not.
But the Beachwood girls have their state cup jackets to look back on.
3:15 It doesn't seem like she is "secret double carded" if this is being discussed on a open forum. How is this being allowed? Does the state/the affected leagues know? Are they just turning a blind eye?
what is a bench coach ?
Know the system, it is allowed. US Club is very liberal and you can almost get away with anything you want. The only issue will be the two coaches pulling for her to join their team next year. She wont be staying at NJSA, no way.
Really should be know the systems(plural) as one is US Club and one is NJYS. Two separate carding organizations. Pretty simple. No secrets.
NO you need to know the system, that is US Club. NJYS would never allow such a thing. US Club was designed to allow such BS
336 poster LOL , 325pm sorry for the delay , busy day here .Unfortunately Im not ,but I do happen to know them both. For your info , I also happen to know your previous coaches very well and play . LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR . Did I leave TR for the right thing , or am I just drinking the kool-aid. Or was I hoping for something better and was not happy whit the team my kid was previously on ,did it help her (development) ask all the questions you need , and the answers will follow . Also Copa is better people
Copa are better people? Well you now have more time to spend with them since you are knocked out of the state cup. Maybe COPA should spend more time developing and less time on here.
4:20 They say ignorance is bliss. Apparently not in your case because your caps and abbreviated foul language would suggest you are angry. Too funny.
In the English language certain items are supposed to be in caps. Foul language you call that? Sorry Sister Mary.
More contradictions. If TR and BW didn't teacher soccer the correct way, and the Surge coach had to start over from scratch, I would consider his job a success. They haven't had any major blowouts except against exceptional teams, they've beaten Crush and Jersey United. I would say he's done a damm good job of developing players. Wonder where they would be in a year or two?
I also don't think you should be discussing particular children on this site. Not good.
They really should change the name of this blog to Matchfit/Copa discussion and call it a day. No one else seems to care.
poster 4:49 Yea right the surge had a problem with the Rage and Mt Laurel. The coach and his assistant are not Academy trainers. Only now he gets to skip to another team.
2 - 1 sounds like a pretty good game to me. I don't know about the MLU game. What was that score?
MF will be just fine. The only issue they will have is when your daughter doesnt make the ECNL team what do you do then? Pay top dollar to play for a team equivalent to many of the teams they are losing too today? Buy into what they are saying, or make the smart choice? Who is the ECNL coach? Why havent they announced it?
They have. It's been on their website for weeks.
Really? Where? Who is it?
http://www.matchfitacademy.net/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gpx::73060+L3/Display+E+155+155+606960
So Bucci will coach 4 teams and actually be there?
Or one of the dad will take over the team if none of the coach show up for the game like they did in winter Futsal at Rutger.
Maybe you should learn to read. The team everyone here is talking about will be the U15 ECNL team and the coach is Jordan Raper
dude: 1:29 PM May be you should learn HOW to read. this is U14 blog and Bucci is name on 4 teams and Jordan only 2 teams per poster 12:55pm question. Your girl won't make it to ENCL and they only want the best player.
Maybe everyone should really start to think. There are two ways to fix all of this and stop this nonsense.
1) One Unified Carding system and no double carding.
2) Draw boundaries based on where kids live. You must play within the boundaries, just like High School.
3) Do away with paid coaching.
Or the quickest easiest way.
1) PARENTS STOP PAYING!!!!!!!!
Is everyone stupid?? This is about money for all involved, the coaches and the clubs. ECNL would not exist if not for this. It is all about money, not your kid.
Do the smart thing and start worrying about your kids education. I bet most of you worry about these teams and players more than your own kids grades in school. MOST if not ALL the kids you talk about will never make a dime from soccer whether it be a college scholarship or their professional career.
Spend your money wisely, worry about how your tax money is being wasted on high paid public employees instead of who is playing where and how much will it cost. Teach your kid the real values of life and stop stalking other kids and their teams.
I think most of the people posting here are drinking more than just Kool Aid. PATHETIC!!!
Yes U14 right now. The teams they are talking about, Surge and Thunder are U14 right now. The tryouts they are referring to will be for these same girls who will be U15 ECNL. That is what everyone here is talking about.
Bucci is named on multiple teams, and ass, I wasnt only looking at the ECNL team. Raper huh, interesting since they are still calling around asking people to coach.
How many teams can a coach coach if a coach could coach a team.
1:11 Are you sure it wasn't that the coaches COULDN'T be there, so a father with a coaching license volunteered to take over?
Bucci is the director and his hand in all teams... the way a director should. I wish he was the head coach for my daughter's team.
He is listed as coaching two teams.
Dad had no soccer coaching license. but I think he coaches his son's basketball team?
I was told, and please give me your opinion, that PDA O'Reilly is the darling of PDA. That no other PDA team has the record, recognition, or talent that they do??
Stirring the pot 6:20, or attempting to deflect the conversation away from MF?
Didn't O'Reilly have a tough weekend a couple weekends ago? Lost and had a tie? Now lets see, MF lost big the other day too?
there is always a top PDA team. one age that is more successful than the others no matter what. yes mom, O'Reilly is that team for the past few years and for the moment. happy?
Who did PDA O'Reilly lose and tie? I doubt it.
Jealousy!!!!
So Bethesda becomes ecnl, Splits teams and their number 1 team or A team at u-14 and u-15's is non -ecnl?
Teams went from very good to two very AVERAGE teams.
O'Reilly dominates. gave up only two goals all tournament. Redemtion after poor ecnl showing.
What poor showing did the Orielys have in the ECNL?
They are currently the #1 team in all of the ecnl.
http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/standings/49564626/49564719.html
They beat bucks and delco last week in the ecnl
a combined 8 goals scored and gave up 0.
PDA is one of if not the best team in the country at this age.
PDA will get tested in June when they play the west coast teams in the national event.
MF Thunder wins at MF Invitational beating MF Surge in final.
I'm glad to see that O Reilly had some competition at their tournament this weekend. Lots of 1-0 wins. I'm sure they get sick of blowing everyone out all of the time!
MF final was very exciting, great game played by both teams.
Congrats to Crush, JU, O'Reilly and all the other NJ teams that were finalists and semi-finalists.
Great weekend for NJ teams!
Congrats to all the players of all the tournament teams who gave it their all, and to the Thunder for their win over Surge.
What I would like to know is, why did the MF teams play against teams that were ranked 41 & 71? There were other teams in their tournament that were ranked higher but put in the lower division?
I don't know why, but if you care to scrutinize any other tournament, you will see that this happens quite often. I assume coaches request??
At the Spirit Tournament in the fall, my daughters team played in a bracket with teams who were ranked significantly higher than hers. My other daughter played in a bracket where 1 team was ranked extremely low... we thought we would kill them, and they actually weren't bad. You never know. Points don't mean much. Depends on how many tournaments they play in, recent turnover etc. Who knows....
Surge, HA! Hear that clapping? That is the Thunder coming to ECNL!
For sure Rush Nike going to win the bracket by the way they were playing. Came little short but still was a great team.
thunder parent..you were told to stay of7f the forums. sad u trash a sister team. classless.
I seriously doubt that was a Thunder parent. Someone causing trouble. It was a great and civil game. Much MF love in the air. :)
Love in the MF air? Where did you sit/stand? Maybe to your face, but behind your back, look out.
Not sure why anyone would want to join the MF parent group! 4 more years!
You could also join the NJSA group, the coach is easy to find. He is at every game not including NJSA's. Not sure how he does it.
Thunder can't even hold the candle for NJX Milan. Most of Milan will be in ECNL.
Poster 10:13 AM. Yuo are correct. NJSA's coach and some players @ PDA tournament this weekend and they are not in any bracket. May scout new player for his ECNL's team?
A little confused here... Since when is the NJSA coach getting an ECNL team?
This stuff is just too funny.
He will be lucky to have any team, let alone an ECNL team.
ECNL NPL, who plays in which? Which is better? Are all allowed to join?
10:17: Seriously? If you recall NJX Milan played 2 scrimmages vs MF back in Feb and lost both. Who can't hold a candle to whom? Also, nice showing for them at PDA this past weekend. Not! So keep drinking your NJX Koolaid and leave MF to the pros.
dont worry MF, no one thinks NJX is better then you. Question is who will you be in 2 months. No one knows, no one. Your darling may be crawling to NJX or worse when you realize what you will be paying and notice that the teams in your surrounding towns are just as good as the competition you will be facing.
NJX will be part of MF. May the best player will be pick for ECNL in April and most of them will be NJX. Surge is not competitive any more and Thunder never a a good team from beginning.
today, rosters as they are, both Surge and Thunder are better then NJX.
NJSA coach is coaching an ECNL team? Guess he is going to Match Fit too.
3:02: And I quote: "Thunder can't even hold the candle for NJX Milan. Most of Milan will be in ECNL".
So yes, 10:17 thought they were better than MF. A little cocky considering their record of late. They may have 1 or 2 players that MIGHT make ECNL but other than that, b/c team at best.
I think what everyone fails to realize is that the tryouts are OPEN tryouts. That means ANYONE can come. Yes, there are probably girls on the 2 MF teams that will make ECNL and possibly a few from NJX and then ANY other girls that are really good will make that team. It's not limited to only the MF/affiliate teams. They are going to pick the BEST so they have a great team.
a bunch of the MF and Milan girls have already played for the NJSA coach. i doubt any of them would go back even at MF.
agree 5:40 but i think anyone with any sense knows this.
5:45 You would think, but reading some of these comments leaves one wondering.
Where did this "NJSA coach will be coaching the ECNL team" information come from? Just a rumor or is there some factual basis for it?
LMAO...This stuff is hysterical, Looks like I don't have to watch Martin Lawrences stand up comedy night tonight, I can just go on the youth soccer talk and get a better laugh. You people are absolutely nutz. Leave all these teams alone, they all have a great quality. Do you want to know what that is? Well I will tell you, they are 14 year human beings unlike yourselves for eveb=n getting on here and bashing any of them. The sad thing is, not one of you on here have a clue about the game of soccer. So maybe you should sit down and learn from your kids, because they will definitely teach you a thing or 2.
Funny stuff. ecnl not all that. but that's ok, by expanding to more and more clubs as in the draft plan, ecnl gets watered down more and more each season.
Two new clubs in PA , another in NJ,and ecnl might pull out of Maryland. Bethesda has its B teams playing ecnl. Virginia has more premier elite ultimate leagues then anyone and ecnl is just average in VA.
NJX better than MF? They are not even better than NJSA.
njx milan are a comedy show, and matchfit are just as fun. it's bad what happens at njx - it's a grownups comedy show. the goalkeeper and the powerful defender from njx could make the ecnl team, no one else is quite good enough from what I see. no doubt the managers girl will make it, she pops up everywhere cause mommy and daddy pay $$$s.
Matchfit is all ready talking to who they want on the ECNL team from Surge, Milan, and Thunder -- no more than 11 girls. So if you have not been contacted odds are kids who go to the OPEN tryout will get the remaining ECNL roster spots.
12:00: The ECNL team can roster up to 26. Unless your player is one of the chosen, stay off the forum if you have nothing definitive to contribute and stop the rumor mill.
Is that really surprising? If I ran MF or my name was Bucci that is what I would do. Why pretend to go through a tryout and hope you get it right when you can look at past performance. Sorry if that doesnt seem fair, but it is easily the correct way to do it.
so where can a dedicated lower income soccer player play in ocean county? Since all this matchfit crap all the competitve teams are gone and only the expensive academy teams are left. Whats a parent do when thats all there child wants to do but you dont have the 4 to do it?
If she is "that" good, tryout. They will pay for her.
why cant anyone just give an answer worth hearing on this stupid form!!!! I said she was dedicated and she works hard at playing that doesnt mean im bragging about her im asking for help on where would be a cheaper option than the academy teams. but still be competitve and worth putting in the time. So stop being a Jack ass or is that all thats left on this blog.
Wasnt being a jackass, just stating the facts. If she is that good, let her try and they will pay for her. I guess you have determined that she isnt good enough.
Ecnl can roster 30 on a team. So both matchfit teams can be on 1 roster.
But 3:22 we all know that isn't going to happen. All the players on both teams aren't that strong. Some are, yes.
As far as 30 players on a roster, whatever the actual number, only 18 can ever dress for a game. That means numbers 19 on down, will most likely not see much, if any, playing time.
I'd rather have my kid play on a team where they were actually playing in games.
So true 4:09.
Years from now, some of these parents will look back and realize how ridiculous they behaved.
I only hope that their daughters don't pay the price for it.
Ecnl roster is 26 players . Have fun getting playing time. When those assistants of the assistant coach comes to a so called showcase, they will say , yeah, she looked pretty good for 20 minutes.Only because they traveled 10 hours to have two blow outs of 4 or 5 to nil and play 20 minutes. Not a starter? go away!
How many teams really roster 26? How many does PDA OReilly roster now?
Whats up with the Jags and EDP sites??? Why aren't they posting scores? Anywhere else to find them?
Ecnl roster is 30
http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/teams/49564626/30004912-49564720/TEAM.html
Most teams carry 20+
If your daughter isnt in the top 7 (and how would you really know that) why would you even consider playing for a team that will roster that many?
I WAS THINKING OF BRINGING MY DAUGHTER TO THE THE MF TRYOUTS AND IN RESEARCHING THE COACHES I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE NEW NJX COACH FROM MF SHE HAS A VERY IMPRESSIVE RESUME'
www.axiomsport.com/clients/Schnur.htm
That doesn't mean she's going to MF. She could still just be the NJX coach.
1:27pm. She has an impressive "playing" resume. Not a single word about her coaching in that bio. Good players don't necessarily make good coaches and to jump to the conclusion that they do is very short sighted.
Just NJX trying to save their A**
NJSA has been quiet lately, maybe they have something up their sleeve? Maybe they really are going to MF
Pay the tax man April 15, and pay your pda fees.
Honestly, how are PDA fees any different then NJSA/MF/SDFC or any other faux academy fees?
1:27 not jumping to conclusions but the odds are in her favor with that resume that she would be a good coach. Not many coaches at this age group have that experience.
Can only ECNL players be invited to an ID2 camp? How does that work? I know there is one this weekend in SC. I only know of PDA players going.
No anyone can be invited to ID2, you need to apply online to be seen. Coach does it for you so ask them.
And 4:04pm. Ever heard of Diego Maradona? One of the best players ever and possibly one of the worst coaches ever.
So, do you have to be ECNL?
Sorry... read your post wrong. Anyone can apply.
I wonder why there isn't a bigger push from NJ coaches.
PDA is just fine, dont worry about us. Planning to make it all work, and it will. Worry about yourself MF parents.
id2 camp is terrible. A popularity contest. Better to stay with your team and support them on wins , then to miss games for a poor camp. If the TEAM does well, the colleges will come with little effort.
Right now colleges are coming to RI
games and some ecnl games. Big Showcase tourneys and probably be a few coaches at State Cup finals.
Over heard a coach last weekend that he was heading down to Maryland SoccerPlex to watch 3-4 Cup games.
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, what doe RI stand for???
Rhode Island
RAGING IDIOT!!!
I thought it was a "one". Region One.
Why would college scouts be in Rhode Island right now. Is RI suddenly known for their soccer? I thought perhaps RI was a camp or something.
http://region1.com/clubsite/?p=5531
Okay. That makes sense now.
MF tryouts are coming, NJSA will lose players, MF players will realize they will not make the same level teams and that doesnt even include the top level players trying out from other clubs. It will make for a strange couple of weeks.
And these top level kids (IF any do come) would have to come from somewhere. JU? BEC? CRUSH? COPA? IF they believe that ECNL is the way go. Should be a very interesting next few weeks. Hoping my daughter lands where we want.
From somewhere, yes but dont exclude ANY club. You could have a poor team but they could still have a great player. Dont make the mistake of thinking they are not out there. Oh by the way, if your daughter was on the ECNL radar, you would already know it.
How would a great player from a poor team who just shows up to try outs be on the ECNL radar?
You just don't get it
That's what people say when they don't know what to say. 1:01 s first sentence contradicts the second.
You mean the 2nd sentence contradicts the last. But I see your point.
ecnl contradicts pay for soccer.
ecnl rosters up to 30 players.Most have 24-28 players. Lots of playing time in the few games that they have.
plus the travel to.... Ecnl should buy a plane or planes.
Yeah, there is no way that there is a great player on a poor team. It is just impossible.
How do you know that? Your daughter on a poor team? There are always a few "diamond in the rough".
That was the point. For those that think you are good because you are on a good team or poor because you are on a poor team, think again. (or ask NJSA)
What is your point? and what is about NJSA? They are just fine.
NJSA is fine? First time I heard that in this age group. Maybe the NJSA girls will stop practicing with MF now that all is fine.
3:06 - Out of those 30 players how many do you think travel to all of these events? Or do you think they divide the girls up? You need a deep roster because not all of the same girls travel to each event.
Phoenix, AZ
Sanford, FL
Frisco, TX
San Diego, CA
Zarephath, NJ
Aurora, CO
Richmond, VA
Yes they divide them up. The ones who play all the time, the ones who play sometimes, and the ones who pay all of the time.
National ranked #4 Jersey United !!!! But they lose to NJX Milan? I guess they couldn't bring all their guest players to an EDP league game.
3:24pm. Good point about guests to tournaments. They attend enough of them to be "ranked" that high.
JU has used one guest player in 12 months. EDP is used to develop players who do not get as much playing time. Please do not post inaccurate information.
If you lost to NJX, I guess they proved their point, they dont deserve playing time.
4:47pm. JU Parent so must be true
Of course I am a JU parent. Why else would I know that the team does not use guest players. JU has an ASL team and a club team. The club team plays lower level JAGS teams generally while the ASL team competes at a much higher level. Players are given the opportunity to play at a higher level in EDP matches. It provides excellent development opportunities. We all realize that Got Soccer rankings are not accurate. It is merely a measure of success. No one on here or from the team is claiming to be the #4 team in the country, but we are proud to say that the girls are getting better and playing well in a very good environment.
Mix and match players in leagues.
Like a box of chocolates, never know what you are going to get.
PDA south takes out Nike Rush in State Cup last night.
Thoughts on
JU v MF Thunder
RAGE v STA
NJSA v Marlboro?
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