The real shame is - no matter what - they will always be the B team. Maybe now, even the C team.
Lots of good players all over the state that have played on club town teams but could not or chose not to join a higher level team due to cost until their girls got older! As non top players?? ...........The questions here are:- Wildcats = a higher level team?- Do they have the quality of training and the ability to (I won't say ability to inspire because someone might say that the girls should inspire and motivate themselves) not uninspire their players ? Some coaches have the ability to turn kids off of a game due to their personality, approach and lack of rapport. In other words - get less than the best of what one would give (or could develop into). If their staff can raise the level of the game across the board, for all girls they have accepted,into their program, regardless of the mixed bag of quality they have taken on, then they are worth the money they are getting.
So what town team would you suggest is better suited to promote your daughter then any PDA team?
Ok confused.... Wildcats team not much different then NJX, Matchfit FC Delco etc .non ECNL teams or NJSA Edp team etc... My daughter likes soccer, wants to play in college, Yes being on an ECNL team will def get you looks at top D1 programs for most....my experience with recruiting is as long as your child is on a competitive team and plays in showcases he/she will find a college team to play on. Besides, it's up to the parent to market their child and the player to contact the coaches. Also, go on all the clubs websites lots of girls are playing in college programs in the fall at all division levels not only the " academy selected" clubs. Honestly I would not have my daughter try out for an ECNL team I can not afford the traveling fees and time away from family traveling to tournaments a plane ride away etc...you should not put down kids playing abilities or clubs as parents we chose a club that is best for our child and lifestyle. Again there are talented kids everywhere. My child plays soccer because she loves the sport and she says she wants to play in college but geez these girls are only 15 a lot can change in the next 3 yrs. let the kids love the game!!!
Agreed? But is wildcats doing a good job at letting the girls love the game.There are other options out there. You can talk to coach and see what he is all about, if u have your own value set for youth soccer. what do you want for her? What is the coach's philosophy. You'll get no promises, nor should u ask for any, but u will get a feel for what is important to the coach.Maybe wildcats coach is good for the girls ...I don't know. Seems to be at least one person out here who is a fan. I am sure PDA has some good coaches too, and some jerks. What are the reasons girls are not happy on their teams ... Not enuf play time... Coach is nasty ..... Can't get along with coach ... Too serious wants more fun less pressure .... Doesn't like her teammates ... Jerky parents .... Teammates playing below her level ... Can't keep up with level of play .... Too much soccer .... Not enough soccer .... Girl is more soccer savvy than coach ... Others?
Kids leave teams for all you wrote above. My child is happy playing on her team right now. Likes the girls and is so so with coaches but does not want to move to another team and work her way back to being a starter which is what she is on her present team. She just wants to play soccer. I'm not playing.....she is and the grass is not always greener on the other side.
Best of luck to all the girls this weekend !
By the looks of things, MF couldn't even put together a tournament like they have in the past. They were really reaching for the teams they included this year, at ALL age groups. (mostly the affiliate/town teams included) None of their top teams are participating. Pathetic for an "Academy".
NJ Wildcats have a pretty solid program and their U15G team for a new team has done very well this season. Won their EDL division beating NJ Rush, SJEB, LVU, and tied NYSC, to play in the EDL Championship game vs Jersey United to see who plays in the National Championships in NC come July. 1st place in their EDP bracket (2nd division) and got to the 1/4 Finals of SC and beat PDA, as they lost to the NJ Stallions in the 1/4Finals game. I would consider this team a new and up and coming top 10-15 at the end of the year! Good job and best of luck over the summer and next year!
Beat PDA, wow. Has PDA scored a goal this year?
The Wildcats have the worst owner in nj. Everyone pays A Different price. Makes promises he can't keep. The coaches in several age groups have shady histories. I would stay far far away form that place.
I wouldn't put beating the PDA 3rd team down as an accomplishment. They are poor
Actually the Blues players aren't poor, their positioning is. From what I saw, players in positions where they aren't succeeding. That is coaching.
The PDA Blue coach does not know how to size players to positions. Just because you are a D1 coach does not mean you are good at it.
Wildcats-Schmildcats - Someone out here either thinks they need to be championed and defended or wants to bang the drum for them.The question is ... why do they feel this need ?
Concerning the PDA Blues team, that particular team was started from Marlboro. They needed 8 players to keep their got soccer points.8 players were not necessarily the top of Marlboro and just the ones who would drive to PDA.Outside the Marlboro girls, some of the girls added were political appointments. The girls trained privately with various PDA coaches. If you add that all up, you probably have really 6-8 players that deserved their spots.Their record speaks for itself, I would not blame the coach. The politics in making that specific team is revealed.
Yes the coach has nothing to do with it. He cant control if the girls choose NOT to go to tournaments because they have lacrosse games. It is a team run by parents, my daughter basically left before it really got started as it was obvious what was going on. Better pay for additional training and sign up for the summer camp now girls.
8:17am-how is it run by parents? I'm not surprised, i'm just curious to know what the parents input is?
To be fair, the team which did mainly come from Marlboro was the brain child of one person who loves PDA. Marlboro was a good team and had talent from the top to the bottom, some chose not to go to PDA but went to MF, NJSA or other places. I don't believe that anyone that went to PDA didn't deserve it, they are a mid level team with mid level talent. I am sure politics occur, but why should PDA be any different. The girls will get better, some new will come and some will choose not to pay the crazy price tag. Nothing crazy going on.
The better girls from Marlboro went to PDA. a willing and committed group of adequate soccer players should improve their stock with superior coaching.Are these girls not willing or committed ... The lax comment leads me to believe some are not. Is the coaching not superior? At PDA...should that even be acceptable? I will tell u this ... The man or the woman coaches. Not the letters on the uniform and not the price you pay. The price u pay may but you credibility, or even interest from scouts, but it doesn't make for better players.I wish we had an objective consumer reports nj youth soccer orgs. Some categories that could be rated...PricePlayer Turnover rateQuality/demeanor of coachesCoaches turnover rateReputation among recruiting coachesCommitment to developmentParental satisfactionTrust and Integrity - player decisions made solely on soccer ability, effort and potential. No outside influencesPromotion of the game / inspiration to succeedPlayer satisfaction
PDA have some poor coaches. My younger daughter plays a PDA team regularly, their coach does NOT travel to away games. Instead a younger female coach takes the team. Go figure that one out.It's all about who you know at PDA, not what you know. As evidenced by some of their coaches.
The better players did not got to PDA from Marlboro. The top players went to MF and NJSA.
apparently you don't need 50% of the players to keep your GS points. MF Black/North/whatever walked into MF Thunder's points without ONE returning player on the roster.
yes, whoever said they took 8 players just to have them is wrong and most likely jealous that they weren't asked to go. PDA does a good job of giving play time to all and finding a place for them to play.
I completely disagree: PDA got the much better crop of Marlboro refugees. NJSA and MF - lol.I guess that's what makes a horse race.
The two that went to MF ECNL are very good. No LOL from me.
Why are we discussing a mid level team that cant beat anyone good and cant score any goals. Wow, they are from PDA and they can play the ball backwards 100% of the time. Are you so impressed that they cant handle any pressure at all? They will play and they will get training that they can get anywhere for 1/3 the cost.
Girls on mid level teams play in college with girls , who played on top academy teams...... But their parents invested a heck of a lot less. Not everyone can afford to pay academy fees yet their kids get picked up for college teams on " non academy " teams at showcases!
every girl that plays in college was not part of an academy team. so I have to agree with 8:59 and 8:56 who crazy as it may sound, posted the exact same comment only minutes apart.What are the odds of that ?Just throwing something out here, but let's see where it goes ... as All-American and wonderful as our US Collegiate and HS sports institutions are, and as much as its the only thing we know, and we accept it as the only way, and even though I realize it is not going to change, to me, its idiocy to mix sports and academics. School should be for students. And sports for athletes. And I am not saying that college students should not play sports - they should if they enjoy it, but those that are more serious about the game and show a higher level of talent should pursue the game for solely for the love of the game. Sports talent should not be a ticket into college. Then those who are serious about the games can be drafted into minor league football and basketball. with an established and lucrative men's league in this country (hope we are getting closer) they can do the same.Now with this getting drafted into a team, part of the system will subsidize the minor league player to go to a college local to their team, if this is what the kid wants. This way, it would not be one or the other - they can have their shot at a high-level career in sports while also getting an education. But their grades would still need to be good enough to get them into the school of their choice.For the girls though, this would be a problem - the money is just not there.I'll bring this up at the next NCAA board meeting.Oh well - back to the drawing board.
8:56 You got that right. I see older girls consistently being picked up for college soccer that play on mid level teams. That said, most of these colleges are NOT what you consider top schools. If your kid wants to play soccer and doesn't care about what school they go to then fine. I would rather my kid go to a better school and NOT play soccer than settle for a mediocre school just to play soccer. If that's the kid's only ticket in, then maybe a different story.
All this banter about the PDA Blues reminds me of the same types of comments that were made against PDA SAMBA (IMPACT) when they were the new team. They are a very respectable team now. Give the coach and the girls a little time before lighting the torches and picking up the pitchforks.
That's because IMPACT had time to get better. They were a new team at what U13?Blues have no time when starting at U15.
Blues have time. If their players get faster, more aggressive, and better ball skills they will be in good shape. They can NOT score, they have no scoring threat at all. They don't give up a lot of goals so I suppose the defense is good.
That's a long list of things they need. Not sure if have plenty of time if those are things they need.
Is the South Jersey Academy team the remnants of TR fusion , Beechwood Dragonflys and other hanger ons. If so it seems like it will be another Matchfit surge situation , which was highly unsuccessful
Matchfit surge WAS this year's MF NPL team among others. Now they all left to go to SJA and he picked up others along the way. You need a directory to follow all these changes. lol
703 -seriously? To be a top player to play on a top team you need to be able to afford academy fees and also be a very good player.. Not all top academy players go to top D1teams. Also, most girls will not get phenomenal scholarships to play soccer in college anyway!! Geez let the girls that want to continue playing soccer pick a school that fits them both academically and for the sport they love. Do you seriously think all girls will be recruited to UNC like schools with scholarships or even play when they get there? Let the girls decide. By the time they are juniors they will know if they want to play soccer in college. BTW my oldest plays D 1 Soccer at a smaller school with great academics and received a lot of athletic $ also.... plays in games and is happy and can't wait to return to her school for both academics and soccer. Isn't that what you want for your child ? What if a coach does not recruit them for a school that does not fit your expectation? Then what? Tell your daughter that's it no more soccer for you? A sport you supported her through the years with the expectations to play in college?
June 11 10:12Lol accidentally posted 2x
"That's because IMPACT had time to get better. They were a new team at what U13?Blues have no time when starting at U15."I have to agree with the person that recently said "do you people THINK before you post?"yep, that's it. any kid on a new team at 15 is done, no chance at all to play in college, development ends at U14 or U13 or whatever.seriously????
809, don't u know that according to many people who have been blogging out here for years, if a team is not tops by u12 with the best players then they have no chance at ever being good. Over the years ... This u12 team has no players and the parents are fooling themselves and their little Mia's if they think they are going to amount to anything. There is no development after u12 - u15. The best players will continue to be the best as will the best teams since u can't alter the real madrids of youth soccer. It's just destiny. So if your child is not a top player on a top team today, she may as well just pack it in. The scholarships are all going to go to the girls who peaked on teams like toms river, crush, pda, njsa and bec at u13. That's the way it seems by listening to people wilting about scholarships on this blog since u12 and bashing quality of other teams.
I would say a kid as an individual can develop and improve at any time, but as a brand new team at this stage time is not something they have a lot of.
People paying the high academy prices have to realize their investment may not have a payoff. --From Time magazine concerning Basketball->While graduation rates for student athletes are improving, poor outcomes remain a serious problem. In this year's tournament, only 42 of the 68 teams graduated at least 60 percent of their players. (worse than the rate, is they give them 6 years to get a degree when they measure this statistic)
6 year graduation rate is a parent issue. allow your kid to coast and that is what happens.extended programs or additional cert excluded of course.
Looks like a time management issue not a parent issue-For instance, a look at a top program’s training schedule looks like this: Preseason: 3 hours/day training In-season: 1.5 hours/day training + 2 hours weightlifting/ week + 2 games/week on Fridays and Sundays with extended road trips Out of season: 8 hours/week training (two of them weightlifting)Teams usually play about 16 games, plus conference tournaments plus the national tournament, when the top 64 teams are invited to a multi-weekend play-off that culminates in December. The competitive season runs from late August to November, although the national championship is usually played on the first weekend in December if your team gets that far. Total time investment for a player? Roughly 1000 hours a year (three per day). If you are not willing to give three hours a day to your development as a soccer player, then you should not strive to play at the D-1 level.
Striving to play at D1 level and striving to be the best you can be because you love the game are two different concepts, even though they are not necessarily mutually exclusive.If my daughter gets a scholarship, I expect it to be an academic one. That does not mean she is not a very good player, striving to get better. She does want to play in college. Div1 will probably not be for her, and that is absolutely fine with us. If it turns out she somehow garners attention based on her developing skills and talent, then maybe we would have a decision to make.Her motivation however does not come from wanting a D1 scholarship. It comes from loving the game and wanting to be better at it. No one / no club is selling me on their claims of their program and their credentials attract college coaches. What sells me is the coach, his/her philosophy, ability to encourage, inspire and impart soccer smarts, his actions during training and games and my daughter's enjoyment and development.
I see that PDA Impact has several OReilly players rostered for the NPL Nationals. I guess this is allowed but I'm not sure how I would feel about this if I was an Impact player. There are at least 5 girls rostered from OReilly. Perhaps they are switching teams??
They have been using O'Reilly players all season and I doubt any of them are switching teams. Can't imagine what the Impact players think of being benched or playing time cut for this - I bet none of the new players are even aware of the situation.
Send them to the Blues. Need them
R1 bracket just came out.. Good luck NJ Rush.. You can do it!!
is Rush favored?
I wouldn't say favored but they are on a roll - beat TSF, Rage, Celtics and Crush to get there. Good luck.
But, Rush has recently lost to Mt. Laurel, Wildcats & TBBA in league games. So anything can happen. Good luck to all teams--play hard, play fair.
I just looked at NJ Rush bracket.. They have YMS in it.. I don't see Rush beating them
exactly what I was going to say. I knew they lost to MLU 3-0 but lost to 3 teams recently? I wouldn't brag on that SC win too much. luck of the draw.also heard that their coach was less than professional? calling players and opposing coach nasty names? still in HS? that is someone I want my kid playing for...LMAO!they will never get past YMS.
YMS already qualified for Nationals through the National League. How does that play into things?
If YMS wins, they will take the finalist also.
EDL Championship game is scheduled tonight between NJ Wildcats vs Jersey United 7pm @Heavenly Turf Fields in East Brunswick. Good Luck to both teams as they fight for a spot at Nationals in NC come July...
Congrats to FC Copa Celeste on winning the Southeast Regionals in NC this past weekend. Good luck at Nationals!!
Yes well done Copa on driving all the way down to NC for Regionals when the Northeast Regionals are at PDA 10 minutes from you with better competition. Sensible
Why would they do that? Why are they allowed to do that? The answer I guess would be easier competition but they cant say that to the girls or the parents. So, what did you say?
Wow, what a silly organization. Guess they were not able to beat teams here, which caused them to go down south.
The other teams were from western PA. Not sure what any of them were doing playing in the southeast regionals. I wonder if US Club did that because they weren't getting any clubs to compete. Lets face it... US Club Nationals is kind of a joke.
US Club Nationals can be manipulated but the winners of their respective state cups deserve to be there.
US Club has nothing to do with state cups. I do think the national winner of the USYS, NPL , and ECNL should all square off for one ultimate "Best in the Nation."
Jersey United won their EDL league (part of the NPL)after a grueling 5 game schedule (including the final) Talk about taking the express lane to the NPL finals. Hope they do better then last years performance.
Jersey United won EDP, NPL and the National Cup and they were also State Cup Semi-Finalists. Well done. Plus you may want to edit your comment and use proper grammar.
4:04, what about JU winning the NJ Cup as well or is that what you meant when you said National Cup? Is there a difference?
JU beat an EDP 2nd division team in the final and had an easy run to the final..good achievement for an "elite team"Crazy, unethical coach..crazy parents with cool aid stained lips and a big turnover of players!!Their results are terrible against good competition but they keep riding the coattails and win at all costs philosophy!!
They had such a great year beating good competition consitently - Crush, Copa, STA, etc. The coach is a class act - great enviornment and everyone is happy.
JU did not go to the NPL nationals last year. They were in the US Cup nationals. I'm not a JU parent but I have to say that they are a pretty solid team. Not top tier but a good team. And they actually don't have much turnover so I'm not sure where you get your info.
What a bunch of haters. These are 15 year old girls we are talking about. If you win your league you move on results speak for themselves. Case closed.
JU has only 7 loses in 31 games in 2014, won jersey cup, goes undefeated in EDP league, lost in Semi finals of States. Qualified for ASL playoffs. Most importantly the girls are becoming better players. If you ask me that is a pretty good year. Maybe best year of any non ecnl team in NJ.
5:31Basically every team has crazy parents that have tasted the kool aid and turnover of players.Obviously you are on a perfect team compared to the rest of us.
Credit where credits due..JU have had a good yearThey do well with what they have and pick up 4/5 better players each year..not much development there but the team gets stronger..how many kids on the current team are left from U12? 4/5?The forward is very good, probably too good for the team and a few girls ride her coat tails.Overall a good year though!
Hey 4:04... The Eastern Development League (formerly the NPL Division of EDP) joined the NPL in 2011-12 with boys and expanded to include girls in 2012-13. http://npleastern.demosphere.com/schedules/2014/66131442.html"Eastern Development LEAGUE" - no longer EDP. And the point of the post was it was only a 5 game league schedule while most NPL's play 12 to 15 to earn their spots.
EDL league where you play 4 games and then a final to make nationals is hardly a league.
JU lost to Mount Laurel, an unranked team, in regionals this morning. Was the star striker who carries the team not there?
The last poster really has envy issues. That must really stink to live your life that way.
Agreed 3:01. Probably just a local parent or coach. Mt Laurel played well and deserved the win. JU played many players from their club team so kudos to them to give their second team a crack in a game and tournament that does not mean very much to them.
What do you mean Mt. Laurel is an unranked team? They are ranked. Did you mean not a top ten team? Mt. Laurel has a history of being a good team.JU always says they played club players when they don't do well. Club has their own team and tournaments. Don't enter if you don't have the roster.
MLU unranked, that is funny. you obviously don't get around much. MLU also beat NJ Rush (state cup champions) recently so pretty good for an "unranked" town team that keeps losing players to PDA and such. Go MLU! and no, not a parent.
LOL!!JU win and they are the best team ever..lose and it's a meaningless tournament with club team players playingWhich is more meaningless EDL National Championships or the Mid Atlantic Cup?What a joke...
You know what you all hide behind anonymous comments. Bottom line these are 15 year old girls. The JU haters are obviously STA parents. Give it a break. Your Red team treats the White team like crap. You have never lost a game..... with out some type of excuse Refs bad fields etc. It all comes from your leadership. What an arrogant group of people. I for one have stayed out of the bashing of PDA Matchfit etc. I apologize for lowering myself to this level but enough is enough.
"You know what you all hide behind anonymous comments," says Anonymous! Got to love it! Lol
Hey "Anonymous" from 10:40... (who is obviously a JU parent) why would you say "Your Red team treats the White team like crap." Do tell? Perhaps that would substantiate your " What an arrogant group of people." statement.
JU and STA are out.
Thanks for the update!
10:40 Keep trying to stir the pot have no clue what your talking about
PWSI team very good should take the whole thing Play a good game and have some very good individual players
YMS has one girls team. Once there gone so will the club
wow what happened to match fit at the ecnl national? ouch
Looks like they went 1-1-1. Sounds okay to me, only lost one game. They did get killed by the team that will probably win it all. Beat De Anza. PDA barely squeaked into the final, but they did get through. That's a good thing...much more competition in the ranks.
Good Luck to PDA Impact at the NPL Championships.
Still not sure why Impact needs to bring guest players, dont they have enough good players? 8:34 do you know?
They are playing some very weak teams. NPL is a joke.
Why is NPL a joke? Weak teams? What does that say for all the other teams that dont play NPL?
You can say every league is a joke then. ECNL is a joke for that matter. They take ENTIRE clubs not just single teams, so in many cases, the weak ride along on the coattails. Too many weak teams in ECNL to even think about bragging about them. NPL can be a joke too. Many times the ECNL players get time on the NPL teams so the NPL team can make it to the finals. It's all a racket. Sit back, enjoy the fun. lol
Many times the ECNL players get time on the NPL teams so the NPL team can make it to the finals. It's all a racket. Sit back, enjoy the fun. lol That is the case here for Impact
You are saying that Impact needs OR players to be sucessful? Impact can hang with any of the teams they play on their own. Would destroy Blues and as OR what they did with them.
It is a fact that Impact has used players from OR to play with them....they are carded to both teams for that reason.
Question for @10:00. How do you know they are using those guest players? Where did you find the roster for the NPL finals?
The OR are at ECNL nationals so I am presuming the players not rostered are being given the opportunity to play with the Impact...if there is space on the Impact available why wouldnt you give players from your OWN club a chance to play? Utilization of resources is why PDA is the best at what they do..I know some disgruntled parents will jump onboard bashing PDA but deep down that's where the kids want to be and where the parents want their players to be! People bash out of unnecessary jealousy instead of concentrating on developing their child at the appropriate place PDA or not...Just my two cents...let the bashing commence!!
PDA has and will always share players. In this age group there are now 4 teams, and yes the coaches talk and share resources. They will put each player into what they consider to be the best situation for them. Downside is that they carry about 22-24 players but we all know they cant roster them all and even those that are on the roster wont all play. If you have 24 players per team that is 24 right off the mark that cant be rostered for a match. If you play 16 per game you now add another 8 that wont play. That means 32 girls are there to financially support the program, and oh yeah train.
PDA is a business, remember that.
What's going on with the ODP teams? Are they still training / playing? I though I heard their was ODP event this week and it makes me wonder what the ECNL and NPL girls who play ODP would do. Anyone have insight into the ODP schedule?
I understand the sharing of the players (or resources as you called the girls) but only to fill needed spots. I don't think it's right if Impact is pulling better girls from OR just to win and therefore forcing regular Impact players sit. I hope that's not the case.I don't know of any ECNL players that play ODP. Not saying there aren't any, just none that I know. I do know one NPL girl who is not going to camp so that she can attend Nationals. Shame to pay all that money for ODP and now you won't have a chance to be recognized at camp.
PDA impact can't field a good team without guests
PDA Impact 14-0-1 in NPL league play with one guest from PDA Blues and one from PDA OR (for one game).Now at nationals and are 2-0-1 with two guests from the Blues since two players were in able to attend. So a total of three guests all season. Don't think people on this site have the facts but just want to start issues. I will let the fact speak for themselves.
6:06 FALSE. They played with OR players a few times during the regular NPL season. My daughter's team played them and there were OR players on the field for them.
YMS has absolutely no connections. It's a town team with some athletic players. The team itself is decent but the club as a whole is total garbage... I'd like to see if any of them receive scholarships to respectable colleges..
I just wonder what the kids would say if they saw what their parents are writing on this blog.Lets set a new standard do not push the publish button unless you think your kid would approve of your message.
I read this blog for some laughs from time to time. My daughter's team has been successful and there are often lies and unjustly criticisms made about the team and the coach. I imagine much of that is the same for these other teams who have been successful. You people need to get a life. I feel really bad for you that it makes you feel better to minimize the success of others.
Congrats to SJA on their first tournament win! no, not a parent.7
5:15 what tournament?
That's easy to say when SJA played a bunch of no/ranked low/ranked teams. A vision of their future?
6:17 - Just let the parent be proud of their daughter's team for doing well at a tournament. Try to have a nice day!
just glad my daughter's friends had a good weekend. sad you have to be nasty just to make yourself feel better.
Your team sucks. Not deserving if a comment
Even with guests covering for a depleted PDA team, Impact couldnt win. Time to mix Impact and Blues and make a real competitive team.
9:30 Sorry but adding Blues to Impact will just weaken it. Fact.
9:46, are you saying that by combining 2 teams it wouldnt make 1 stronger team? Every player on Impact is better then every player on the Blues?
Adding Blues would weaken? Really? So why do you have a Blues player almost full time? What do her teammates think of this? Both sets of teammates.
and yet you comment. too funny
Congrats to NJ for taking HALF of the NPL national titles. Match Fit, PDA, and Stallions. Way to go NE and NJ!
Congrats to NJ Wildcats Academy Lady Strikers U15G winning the PA Classics Mid-Atlantic Cup this past weekend. Beat some of the top teams in PA this weekend.Beat #2 PA Rush 1-0Lost #11 HMMS Eagles FC 2-0Beat #10 PA Classics 2-1Finals : Beat #4 LDC 2-1. Way to represent NJ ladies!! Well done!
Congrats to the Wildcats. You are proving yourself more and more. BUT don't get too wrapped up in those points. They really don't mean much. You can do multiple average tournaments and have as many points as OR (for example) who only do a few high level competition. Noway the two teams can even be compared. You are clearly a parent not used to being on a top team so Im just trying to give you some advice considering the success of Wildcats. Also.. it's better to be modest than bragging because things change quickly in youth soccer.Also... how many of last years players left Wildcats and how many new ones came? And where did they come from? Just curious.
Why can't we all just be happy and have to throw negative digs at every post or just compliment a team for their accomplishments? Good for you NJ Wildcats and all the NPL/ECNL teams that represent our great state of NJ and had good results from this past week/weekend. Proud of the soccer in this age group as the girls continue to grow and mature. Don't listen to all this BS from people on here that have an agenda and take away any of your teams success!
Dont worry Wildcats, you will have a roster of 28 and those that play now will be #23 in 2 years. Check his track record.
MFA/PDA are any better with roster numbers per team? Come on people wake up. Wildcats only had 15 girls at this weekend's tournament. How many kids are rostered on each of the MFA/PDA teams per year? Mommy/Daddy paying all that $$$ for the name and brand and hopes for a scholarship!!! Only the girls on the ECNL team will be looked at by colleges and the other 3-4 teams within that same age group are wasting time and money!!!
So you are saying that college coaches will only look at the NJ girls if they play for one of the two ecnl teams? I highly doubt that. There are many girls from many clubs and some town travel teams that have gone on to play in college.
Are we going over this College topic again? It doesn't matter if you're on an ECNL team. If you go to enough College ID Camps and impress the coach at the camp and are then pro active in keeping dialogue open between the coach, your club coach and yourself then you'll get offers.
If that is true then why are you allowing your daughter to play for the Wildcats? Not cheap, No visibility as per you.
My daughter doesn't play for Wildcats, she plays for a current top 5 NJ team. She has had a lot of interest from attending College ID camps and heavily communicating with coaches. Her club coach has helped a lot by contacting coaches on her behalf and following up after she has attended their camps. If your coach isn't doing that then you're at the wrong place.
It is a shame that kids have to pay to play soccer. The more you pay ensures your child will have exposure to be recruited by notable D1 schools. I am a parent of a child who can make a high ranked team such as PDA but I honestly cannot afford the yearly fee and travel costs (airfare, hotels etc). I have my child on a team and do pay monthly fees. I am not able to afford to have her attend college ID clinics costing over $500 a pop for a weekend camp. I can not believe the EDP ID camp costs as much as it does which limits the talent that is able to attend. A very good player that plays in the EDP/NPL league will be overlooked because her parents could not afford to have her attend the camp. It's a business and it is what it is. My daughter loves playing soccer and wants to play in college. I will make sure she plays on a top ten team in her age group and I hope she gets seen playing at tournaments by coaches. I'm realistic that my daughter will not be playing for UNC etc... Maybe because she is not on a ECNL team, but I do know she can play for some mid or lower D1 schools, D2 schools, and very academic D3 schools playing on her current team. The sad truth is that the majority of kids that will get nice academic scholarships are those that were able to afford to pay for ECNL teams and attend multiple ID camps, while those that can't afford it won't. I do believe that if a coach does see a standout player at a college showcase the player will be recruited and may be offered a scholarship. Just venting.....
Problem is that if your daughter is doing well but not playing on a top level team in a top level league in a top level flight.....then you really dont know how good she is. She is playing inferior competition.
I have a son 3rd year in school who plays D1 soccer and he was not on an academy team. I do know my daughter is good enough to at on a top team, our family just can't afford the yearly expense. It is crazy you believe only the best players are the top 5 ranked academy teams!!! Answer this question.... If you could not afford an academy team for your child what would you do? What other options would you have? You would do what a lot of parents in my situation do... Choose a top 20 club that plays in showcases to have your child seen. Don't knock the talent some children have , you wouldn't know because you never saw the child play. College coaches find those talented kids from non academy teams.
Not knocking it, just talking facts. Go to PDA and get a scholarship, they offer them. Top 20 is a joke (as are some PDA teams so dont think I am insane). The difference between the number 1 team and the number 20 team is night and day.
Sorry, disagree!! Look on Matchfit, S Jersey Barons, NJ Wildcats, NJSA etc.... See the kids playing D1 soccer alongside PDA players in college. You pay $ to be on a club to make sure your child is recruited which is why you are paying to have your child there. Kids on other top 20 teams play college alongside previous academy players check their websites you will be surprised. Stop knocking players and teams!!!! Again you have not seen some if these kids play . Stop judging.
Agree!!!! My daughter is on a top 10 non ECNL team!!! I too can not swing the academy fee and travel expenses .
No such thing as an academy in girls soccer. Just an exposure fee.
Wildcats! Yes very inexpensive.
A positive success story and I and sure there are plenty more.A neighbor around the corner from us is playing at a D3 school. She played on a team that was a top 25 team. She received an academic scholarship.Coaches at college showcases did come up to her and her club team coach to express an interest.
D3 is not the dream. It is a great story, and I wish her the best but it is not the dream.
Even a talented player on a very good town travel team can play D1. Personally know 2 girls who are going to a D1 school to play soccer.The team was proactive in attending college showcases and keeping contact with the college coaches. They did their homework and were very good at networking.
No one is saying that you cant play D1 coming from a town team. Dont forget to add up the college showcase events and ID camps as costs also.
D3 not a dream???? I guess it would be better being #30 on a high ranked D2 team when you can be starting 11 on D2 or D3 competitive team. 3 practice sessions a day, classes, studying and possibility not playing in games. Top teams such as PDA may get you on a team but do they care if your child actually plays?
2:41 If you are going to college to play soccer and you are not interested in her education, then by all means have your daughter choose any D1 school over a D3 school or choose a school where you think she will get the most game time. There are plenty of D3 school's where their academic standing far exceeds many D1 schools. John Hopkins is one school that comes to mind over University of Maryland.Why not choose the best school for your daughter where she can get the best education and the heck with playing soccer.
Pick your school first, soccer second. TCNJ the hardest NJ school to get into. Playing soccer can get your child admitted. Education first!
Interesting NJ Top 10 GotSoccer Updated this week...Why is MFA U16G in the U15G rankings?1. NJ CRUSH FC CHARGE 2 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL U163. PDA GUNNERS BLUE 4. STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 98 5. NEW JERSEY RUSH 98 GIRLS 6. FC COPA ACADEMY CELESTE 7. NJSA 04 STING YELLOW NPL 8. NJ STALLIONS BEC9. NJ WILDCATS LADY STRIKERS 10.JENYB ELITE TRAINING COBRAS
Some teams (for reasons unknown!) decide to change their birth year early in the got soccer system rather than letting it roll them over automatically on Aug 1st. You'll notice that O'Reilly are up at the U16 level and PDA Gunners are now at U15. The real "got soccer" rankings for U15 in NJ are:1, NJ Crush2, MF ECNL3, STA4, PDA O'Reilly5, NJ Rush6, JU7, Copa8, NJSA9, NJ Stallions10, NJ Wildcats
The gotsoccer system is not 100% automated to rankings. Our team manager sent a email out this week as it looked like our team diapered from the system and she changed nothing in the age section. She did complete the league applications for next years season and that may have something to do with it. I can imagine all the crazy parents with gotsoccer ranking OCD must be in tears this time of year with all the age groups mixed in. How will they survive this delicate period? With all the FtDix/ Hammonton MSSL events giving away 5000 points a weekend I can see violence in soccer parking lots in the near future. I can only imagine how many moms with nothing else to do have placed a call questioning why PDA Gunners are in the U15 ranking? xanax prescriptions have doubled for parents who have a daughter playing in a top 10 NJ.With FC Copa in every tournament I can find on the web I am sure they will find a way to Number 1 in all age groups. With high school soccer not far away and the chance for their little Alex Morgan to get her name in the paper could lead to some great blog postings! I for one can't wait to see who has something vindictive to say about a teenage girl. For me it was a year of shared triumph in Jersey with PDA teams still on top winning in both ECNL and NPL! Congratulations to PDA OR for pushing it all the way in the ECNL Nationals and to Matchfit for a good first season. NJ and State Cup Champions NJ Rush and NJ United and Area NPL Champions PDA Impact and NJ United rounds out the U15 year. You don't need gotsoccer to know PDA are the best team at U15. These are the events to win with ECNL still the best of the bunch
My comment is for yesterdays chatter. We have had our daughter attend the EDP camp.The camp was fine but I thought it was expensive for what we got out of it. With all the travel to out of state showcases I don't recommend applying money to the camp. Most premier teams attend 7-10 events a year which is a lot of soccer. I recommend attending specific 1 day ID camps and targeted college camps. EDP is just a league.I also would like to go on record and say that D3 soccer can be a dream. D1 isn't everything in college ball. There are some dumb comments on this page. I suggest working towards your daughter having a good education and a happy life. It saddens me that there are many parents who want their daughter to play D1 so they can brag to their colleagues at work
Who is earning 5ooo points? No one. Even if you are a great team your rankings preclude you from getting that much.
July 18 5:11 This is for you: You are obviously a Copa hater for whatever reason. That's your problem. What difference does it make how many tournaments they enter? They win because they are a good team and are well coached. At US Club Nationals this weekend, they tied the #1 team from Minnesota, beat the #4 team from California North but unfortunately lost to the #2 team from Virginia (who deservedly won the entire tournament. They were outstanding!) Copa played their hearts out and had 3 great games against tough competition. Maybe instead of bashing them and then heaping praise on the other teams you mentioned, just wish all the teams a job well done and then stop talking. Again, they are 15 year old girls playing a sport they love.
If everyone entered as many tournaments as Copa does, then they wouldn't win as many tournaments. The amount does make a difference. That being said... they are definetly a Top 10 team in NJ and shouldn't have to explain themselves to anyone. And who is NJ United that the poster a few up wrote about??
I hate that I am even writing this as it sounds like a bash against copa also. But can somebody tell me what they won? I can't find much on the regional event they played in to get to nationals. I know all the top teams competed in the PDA Showcase that weekend.I know they were in high brackets over the winter and spring because of the crazy gotsoccer system and the summer 2013 points they picked up. To show I am not bashing I am going to go on record and say they competed well and I do think they are good team definitely in the NJ top 10. But they only won a couple of league games this spring and went out in the early rounds of both state cups against other NJ top 10 teams. I wish Copa all the best next season
To answer the earlier poster question asking about who is NJ United. Looking at the event wins I think they are trying to say Jersey United
And why did Copa compete in the Southern Regionals and not the Mid Atlantic? That is very bizarre. One would assume they thought they couldn't win in the Mid Atlantic but perhaps someone from Copa can explain.
STA parents at it again. They beat Copa in State Cup and believe they are the better team.
COPA will chase the points, I think even the parents will admit to that. Still a good team, not great but who really is.
Sorry not an STA parent 7:06 All these teams can beat each other on any given day at this point except for O' Reilly I would say Enjoy the HS season and get ready for the Nov. tournaments
Copa competed in the southern regionals because their coach also coaches the U14 team and they were playing at the USYS Region I championships in Rhode Island that weekend.
There you go COPA haters.
OOPS, so much for those connections Blues. Interesting timing.
What are you saying
Are PDA Blue and Shore merging their U15 teams?
Why would they, wouldnt that mean less money?
Where did you hear that? I cant imagine it being true if for no other reason the geography does not work.
So the Blues coach retired from Rutgers, wont get in the way of the Blues at all or will?
Anonymous Anonymous said...internet says 40.2 miles from piscataway to end of route 18 south at wall(you can pick up parkway there at exit 98 or get onto 195 west).Clearly 10 miles south from there(exit 88 on parkway) you would reach 50 miles from rutgers piscataway campus and soccer stadium at exit 88 on parkway, which is bricktown.Any players south of brick(even toms river is outside the 50 mile radius) who were coached or even trained by any rutgers coaches on pda teams in U15-U18 age groups over the last 14 years was in violation of ncaa 50 mile rule.July 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...9:01pm -Here is the NCAA 50 rule from the NCAA website:Institution's Coach Observing Prospective Student-Athletes While Acting in Capacity for Local Sports Club (I)Date Published: November 7, 2012 Item Ref: 1 Educational Column:Editor's Note: This column was updated June 20, 2013, to add additional questions to assist with membership clarification.NCAA Division I institutions should note, pursuant to the local sports club legislation, in sports other than basketball, an institution's coach may be involved in any capacity (e.g., as a participant, administrator or in instructional or coaching activities) in the same sport for a local sports club or organization located in the institution's home community, provided all prospective student-athletes participating in said activities are legal residents of the area (within a 50-mile radius of the institution).Very Clear.July 24, 2014 at 9:20 PM
What is your point? Are you saying that the Blues coach violated NCAA rules? PDA draws players from over 50 miles away so maybe all are NCAA violations.
Is that why you think Shore and Blues are merging? Still would make no sense. PDA should focus on Impact, they already have Blues playing for them and it will make a stronger team. Blues seem ok, but they have some that I cant imagine being able to play at a low level or even HS level.
Impact lost several starters including their stud goalie. Added players for their own roster of 24 + some from OR. Team will implode as soon as players realize how much playing time they are going to get.
Within 50 miles of the institution means within 50 miles of the college they work for, not the soccer club.The reason the rule exists is to limit the college coaches contact to players in the immediate area of their college, local players.It eliminates college coaches from bringing in high school age players(student athletes-recruits) from all over and developing relationship with them thru training and coaching them during periods when other college coaches do not have access to them(not even allowed to approach or speak to them until their senior year).How many campuses pda or matchfit has is irrelevant.College coaches cannot work with high school players who live more than 50 miles from their institution.Looking on Top Drawer Soccer Site many of the pda commits to Rutgers from class of 2012 were from way down in south jersey, while 50 miles due south from rutgers brings you to Brick area.If Big Ten /NCAA is looking tino this will it effect eligibility of rutgers player who may have been trained and coached by rutgers coaches at pda club in violation of 50 mile rule!
Interesting. 24 players is too many. That automatically means 6 dont even get rostered for a game. You can effectively play 15-16 per game leaving at least 8 unhappy girls/parents.
To 11:20 above - how does that rule work with regards to the college ID camps and summer soccer residential camps that different colleges host?
That is not continuous coaching/training.
Exactly, according to above ncaa 50 mile rule quoted above from their website both pda club and rutgers univ womens soccer has repeatedly broken this rule for the last 14 years. This will certainly affect rutgers move to the big ten as this is not the cowboy big east with Calhoun at uconn, bod huggins at cinn and West Virginia, etc.the big Ten has northwestern, Purdue, Michigan , etc. and these are among the top academic institutions in the country.those big east coaches were so busy trying to stay out of trouble and covering their own that they didn't have much time to worry about what the other schools in the big east were doing.that is not the case in the big ten and rutgers recent toubles and scandals in mens bball have caused the rutgers administration to take a hard look at situations in ALL their sports that could cause more embarrassment as they move to big ten this fall.
I'm only seeing 21 rostered to Impact. Mostly coming from Rush and MF NPL. Could make the team stronger.Why did GotSoccer drop Jefferson Cup points already? Strange. Must be a mistake. So unreliable.
I am still waiting to hear how rostering more than 20 players benefits the players???someone explain it to me??
New Rutgers womans head coach also a big wig at PDA so that isnt why ex Rutgers coach is no longer there.
Watch, the new Rutgers coach will resign from DOC at PDA and also as PDA coach of high school aged teams. All related.Either:1- PDA must stop employing rutgers coaches as PDA coaches/trainers .or2 - PDA must stop rostering players who live more than 50 miles from rutgers institution(players who live south of Brick). In addition to not being allowed to coach or train them,College coaches cannot even speak to players or parents of high school age players until their senior year of hs.
I thought it was Jr. year.
No, college coaches can write them beginning summer before junior year but no phone or in person contact before summer before senior year.
How are kids committing as sophmores and junoirs then? All through coaches?
Yes, college coaches through contact with club coaches are able to assess a club players interest in their program and pass along their interest in the player.It goes both ways and either side often initiates the contact.also remember that at their own expense youth players can visit a college campus at ANY age and stop in to a coaches office or better still make an appointment.In the case of rutgers and pda the club coaches and college coaches are one and the same so they have circumvented the 50 mile rule which allows them to deal directly with the player(and often the parents) which is against ncaa rules and therefore an unfair recruiting advantage.
2 years ago pparents and players from toms river,beachwood and njsa were sold a pipe dream called matchfit ecnl. Fast forward only a few are still on ecnl and outside of 1 they don't see much playing time . The rest have vacated back to njsa ,pda impact and sja crew. The same guy that sold matchfit is now selling the crew ! Amazing . Saw the crew play this weekend , they lost to a very below average team from VA , Nothing has changed.
What tournament was played this weekend!
Oops...Meant to have a ? at the end of that question..
MSSL summer showcase in Hammonton
I find it interesting how some these same parents, who didn't like each other and badmouthed each other's kids, are back together. How long until they repeat?
The cancer of that group is now at NJSA.
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