Monday, September 30, 2013

U16G Soccer in PA, NJ, MD, VA & NY

Note: These high school women at age 16 are no joke. Many are looking ahead to college soccer play. They tell their stories here.

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Anonymous said...

As usual there are bitter misinformed people commenting about things they do not know. I am a little behind but not ashamed to say I am affiliated with PDA Impact and we do not have an all new team and returned most players with a few good additions. How these people claim they know these rosters is beyond me and just ridiculous.

With that said, we played SJA in a very competitive game and they are a very good team, period and much different than when they played us as MF NPL U15. They simply outplayed us but people want to make comments when they were not even there and do not know teams and I am sure it is always the same bitter person that everyone on here talks about.

People really should stop talking about other teams and just worry about their own.

Anonymous said...

SJA!! There you have it.

Anonymous said...

Sja there u have it. What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Anonymous said...

7:30am poster. Someone is finally making a logical comment instead of bashing a I team or player and you have to be a jerk? You are way too into little girls soccer but probably because you are trying to live through your daughter. Just be happy with whatever team YOU chose for your daughter and leave everyone else alone.

Anonymous said...

To 6:44 PDA impact parent - first off rosters are easily available to see on gotsoccer and elsewhere so it is clear who left the team and who got sucked in by new coach - who by the way was very unethical with his recruiting....calling players from his *former team* and making all kinds of promises. The sh** has yet to hit the fan, my friend.

Anonymous said...

So it is normal to memorize other team rosters so you know who is new? That is very strange and borderline stalker/predator. Get a life.

Anonymous said...

PDA Impact had players say they were going to leave but didnt. Maybe that is where the confusion is. ALl PDA teams continue to recruit at this age, right up until they need to make a fixed roster. At that point they begin to recruit all over again.

Anonymous said...

8:21am poster, you are so right. 6:44pm poster, great post. We need nice positive comments here.

As for the 7:30am and 10:03am post, people do not go crazy. It is most likely the old Beachwood coach who is bitter over the choices he has made making theses two posts and feels like everything he says and does is always right and everyone else is wrong. Just because his team has fallen apart, he feels the need to say how bad every other team is.

Every player and parent is entitled to make their own choices and nobody else should tell them they are wrong or say negative things about the team they went to,. Let's keep in perspective that these are 15 and 16 year old girls but as was said, some people are just way too into it and trying to live through their daughter.

If everyone here would ignore the Beachwood coach, hopefully he will go away and stop posting his negative comments so we can have some good soccer discussions.

Anonymous said...

Sooooooo you want positive comments and you throw someone under the bus. You must be a joy on the parents sideline.

Anonymous said...

At 2:13pm. I was not throwing anyone under the bus just stating what was said many times earlier in this forum that everyone believes it is him. Maybe if parents would grow up and stop trying to live through their kids, none of this would be said. We all know that will not happen. I am sure you have the best player on the best team in the world so good luck with that. We all know you are most likely the parent everyone tries to get away from.

Anonymous said...

3:17. Again nothing positive. You are a walking contradiction. You may also want to come up with your own insults and show some creativity You are a farce.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe people on this forum fight over choices others make to play on different teams. Good or bad, there is not enough room on one or two teams for every girl in this age group and there are a lot of good players who do not want to sit the bench or travel 100 miles to practice because a coach at a place like MF plays his rich favorites.

Just let the girls play!!!

Anonymous said...

It is funny how someone mentioned SJA lost to a 43rd ranked Virginia team. Maybe these people should learn to read, it was a 13th ranked VA team. These rankings in the summer are not very good to depend on. SJA was ranked in the 40's at that time but were not a team that should have been there, just no GS points. Look at SJA losses, none to a 43rd ranked team and from what I was told, both loses came on PK's.

Nobody seems to mention how SJA beat a PDA team who recently made it to the NPL National Championship Semis. Obviously there are people on this forum who just want to bad mouth a team for no reason.

Anonymous said...

SJA! SJA! Keep drinking the SJA kool aid. SJA coach makes lazy players.

Anonymous said...

August 19, 2014 at 10:03 AM Unethical! I can assure you zero phone calls were made from former coach to players on that team. You get a call? Stop lying and making up fabrications.Find another way to justify whatever you are trying to justify! The couple players that did leave; left because they made a family choice based on what it should always be about.... And that is doing right by your kid and doing what's best for them. Period! Shame on you!

Anonymous said...

Dear 8:30am, as you stated that SJA was previously ranked in the 40's, so was the VA team that you played at that time. They were not ranked 13 when SJA played them.. Congratulations for beating Impact #13 by 1 goal. It remains to be seen how SJA will do when they play against better teams. I do not believe that they will do very well, as SJA is basically the recycled former Surge team with a few additions. The Coach failed miserably with the Surge, so I can't wait to see what magic he will perform here. And btw, I can read perfectly fine and for the most part, people do not bad mouth a team/coach for no reason.

Anonymous said...

8:57, shame on you for your ignorance. Coaches do contact players/parents whether it is in person or through email or phone calls. I know this because it occurred with my daughter on a few occasions. Unethical, yes, but it does occur.

Anonymous said...

Why is it unethical? EVERY coach would take on a new player if they felt they could help. NO player will leave their current team if they are happy, so if they leave they were not happy.

Anonymous said...

12:28, otherwise known as Beachwood Coach,that VA team is the same VA team that your team struggled with at Fort Dix and got a lucky bounce to win the game 1-0. SJA lost to them in PK's so that means when your team at NJSA barely beat them they must have been ranked worse than 43? If you look at the points they earned from the win over SJA and subtract, there is no way they were 43 in VA prior to that win.

Anonymous said...

By the way, 12:28, learn to read. 1:12 is correct. They moved up four spots after the SJA win from 17 to 13 so they were 17 at the time of that game, not 43.

Anonymous said...

1:05. I believe there are rules against poaching, therefore making it unethical. Whether or not the player accepts or declines is irrelevant. That's why there are tryouts-outs, to find new players. Coaches should not be going after another team's players. Some will not do this personally, but do it via managers, team parents...

Anonymous said...

They cant make them leave.
They are not asking them to leave until their 1 year commitment is over.
They wont listen if they are happy
There is no such thing as poaching, just dont answer the phone.

Anonymous said...

Returning to play for NJSA would have been a much better option then traveling across the state to play for PDA impact , just look at the coaching difference. Another questionable choice

Anonymous said...

1:05 It's unethical when lies are told to entice players.

Anonymous said...

wow u folks have been busy.

can't wait till I am done with this nightmare called youth soccer.

still waiting to hear how 25 player rosters are good for development.

Anonymous said...

Well there you have it 4:43. You just described the MF Surge/SJA coach amoungst others.

Anonymous said...

define the lies, you cant.

Anonymous said...



Who cares if lies or unethical, the problem is that he can't coach/train/ develop players

Anonymous said...

That is your opinion. The only way you would know is if it didnt work out with your daughter. Take a step back, maybe your daughter didnt work hard enough. Maybe your daughter peaked.

Anonymous said...

"maybe your daughter peaked" ...

what are we talking about here ?

First off, there are our kids - not horses or pro athletes.

2nd ... no kid should "peak" at 15 years old, unless they lose their desire to work on the game. Physically, perhaps they have matured and they may not get much stronger or not much faster. But peaking in terms of game and tactical understanding, skills ... no way. As long as the desire to keep working and keep learning is there, there is soooo much more growth that can be had by all of these girls, as they find their niche in the game and what position then gravitate to and excel more at, they can focus on making the most of what they have physically by learning more and challenging themselves to grow their skills and knowledge.

So many levels of play for so many girls.

Peaking my Behind.

Such a primitive thought to think that the physical peaking in soccer is of any great import. But not surprising considering all the blogging over the years about how fast and physical, the American way of dominance in sports, is the most important things.

I have lots of axes to grind here, but no horse in the race of all of this south jersey, matchfit, njsa, beachwood hatfield and mccoy nonsense we've seen out here the last few days.

Anonymous said...

yep, has to be the kid's fault.

most coaches do not know how to teach. yes they can run the drills. there is so much more to being a good teacher.

Anonymous said...

Yes, blame the trainer/coach. It is never the players responsibility. They never get out worked. They never lack desire.

Anonymous said...

You dont think that players peak? Some sense of realism you have.

Anonymous said...

Of course players peak. It's not our job to be sitting back her like some jerks thinking they know anything about e game to decid event that peak time time. Peaking like I said ... Horses and pro athletes. Maybe mountains. Not kid athletes. But the physical peak A 16 year old girl has should not be her peak as a player. If it is, the something has gone wrong in her development. And trust me ... I am realistic enough to understand that what lowers and accelerates a peak for these kids are stupid parents, bad coaches and a lousy system for development which deprives many girls from the opportunity to truly fall inlove with the game and develop the soccer minds to their potential instead of just concentrating on the all too simplistic physical aspects of the game that win games at youth level.

Anonymous said...

anyone ever see the "worst" player on the team become a star? a little confidence and encouragement by the coach can go a long way. nothing changed except she was given the opportunity to excel.

or a great player's confidence shot to hell by a coach? suddenly they can't do anything right.

Anonymous said...

Worst player on a team become the best? No I never saw that. If you are to be honest, you have not either.

Anonymous said...

learn to read. I didn't say best, I said STAR. many games have one. it's nice when it's someone new.

Anonymous said...

7:45 Sounds like your threatened by a kid that could be better with that "little bit of encouragement" and "confidence building"?

Anonymous said...

And why not the best. It can happen. Of course often times those trying to prove a point for themselves talk in extremes. An is the real world exists mostly at the edges in black and white, simple minds forget all the of Sade's of grey in the middle where the real world lives.

The better question would be ... Ever seen a weaker and smaller player at u9grow into a skilled, skater and effective player at u12 and then grow into one of the better players on her team at u15 due to her catching up to previously dominant players in size, speed, strength and confidence and exceeding them in skills and smarts.

Naaaaah. Coud never happen...right.

Who would you rather have on your team as a coach? Who has the bigger upside for u16 and thereafter?

Who is more likely to have peaked, using that ridiculous concept some of you are inclined to use.

Skills, intelligence, desire, potential are all fluid things .. They are not written in stone and they are influenced by parental and coaching attitudes, philosophy, intelligence, patience or the lack thereof.

Anonymous said...

837 adding that if you are a coach that does not believe what I wrote ... That you can have this degree of impact ... Stay away from my daughter, and for the good of our soccer youth, find another way to earn your money.

Anonymous said...

8:37 keep dreaming and of course you will.

Anonymous said...

Looked at some PDA rankings today. Blues, who came over as a Marlboro heavy team is now ranked lower then when they were just Marlboro. So much for that great training I suppose.

Anonymous said...

1007 - why is it that when you don't agree but have nothing substantial to say, you give a one lines which adds nothing at all to the topic ?

Is this your tactic to try to end a conversation with you being right or a victor ?

Differences of opinion are normal on blogs. But mature discussion goes out the window when one side folds their arms, says I'm right, your wrong (i.e. keep dreaming) and turns their head the other way.

Why do you think I am dreaming ? What is it about my opinion that seems so unrealistic ? That we can possibly have parents and coaches in this country evolve to a higher level of soccer understanding where they might actually create an environment more conducive to development ? Is that what it is ? If so, maybe you are right. We do need more open-mindedness for this to happen, so until we can overcome certain bad traits, you are right, we won't get there.

Anonymous said...

like I've said before, the better Marlboro players went elsewhere and not to PDA.

Anonymous said...

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie in your words, please exit stage right.

Anonymous said...

PDA Blues are a poor team. Parents who went there with the attitude of the grass is greener are now left a little red faced and probably too embarrassed to go back to their old teams.

Anonymous said...

What old teams ? Most of them disbanded.

Anonymous said...

SJA coach has a ton of D-1 connections. Including maryland and long beach state

Anonymous said...

thought his daughter was going to play for Maryland? not on the roster??

Anonymous said...

Long beach state. Monkeys get admitted there

Anonymous said...

I think his daughter might be playing for Ocean County College

Anonymous said...

What, she's not on the D1 Maryland roster 5:21? Proud papa use to brag to us parents how she was signed as a HS sophomore to Maryland. Not surprised actually... I just hope it's not due to any injury or health issues.

Anonymous said...

6:25 AM -

I sure hope you are talking about Mike Nesmeth and Peter Tork. Otherwise, you comment is extremely rude.

This is what you come out with at 6:25 am ? Did your spouse pass wind under the covers this morning ?

Anonymous said...

The fact that you are speaking about a specific child and her college choices on the Internet is extremely creepy and very scary. This should not be allowed. Imagine if it was your daughter someone was talking about. Disgusting And you looked up the roster to see if she was on it?? Stalker. I hope this child is okay and that it was not an injury that kept her off the roster.

Anonymous said...

I just love how people point out how rude or negative someone's comment is, and then finish their post with a rude or negative comment! Lol

Anonymous said...

God you people are sick!! Sick in the head! Get a life already. Are you that shallow that you must worry about someone elses kid? You are an embarrassment to your own daughter and family. Youth soccer at its finest!

Anonymous said...

The NJSA coach is an actual college coach who has a network of D-1 connections

Anonymous said...

passing wind is an immature comment for sure, but I think there was a point behind the joke ... that someone woke up with an extremely crabby outlook and came on here posting nasty stuff.

get some perspective. You cannot equate the hurtful insult you might have given someone to a generic, joke-comment about passing wind .... unless of course your spouse really did let loose, and then you may have a problem which we should not dig any deeper into on this forum .... lol.

There is a HUUUUUUUUGE difference between bathroom humor and mean-spirited personal attacks.

Anonymous said...

while the ignorant comments are not needed and are irrelevant, the fact that a coach says he has college connections and then his daughter is not on the roster for the school she committed to as a sophomore is relevant. she might have changed her mind. she could be injured. she might not be eligible for grades. M could have changed their mind. lots of things could have happened or his connections might not be what he says they are. only the future will tell.

players are listed on GS rosters, TDS database, college rosters, recruiting sites. Google their name. I bet you'd find a FB, Twitter and other accounts. if you think it is creepy and it bothers you that much, maybe you should reconsider your decisions.

Anonymous said...

Once again stop with D-1 dream - enjoy the high school glory , unless your daughter is on PDA OR or Matchfit ECNLor NJSA. Those coaches will get their players into the right colleges

Anonymous said...

8:16pm. How do you know what coaches know D1 coaches? I think you'll find other clubs besides PDA, NJSA and MF know D1 coaches well and get their players into those places. To think otherwise is naive.

Anonymous said...

NJSA couldn't keep a girls team past U16 and the only really successful team they had was Blast, who they don't even bother to list on their "Champions" page as Region I winners. proving once again that only the boys count.

now partnered with Cedars Stars who has less of a girl's program than NJSA had?

not seeing a formula for success there.

PDA and MF have 3 teams in each age (sometimes 4). that is AT LEAST 75 girls for each club. of course they are going to have a large # at DI and DII schools.

Anonymous said...

How many rising u16 girls do we know who are already committed? I know of 3.. 2 incoming sophomores and 1 incoming junior. I told my daughter I want her to wait until at least the end of jr. year. What are your thoughts?

Anonymous said...

How can they commit when coaches can't talk to them

Anonymous said...

NJSA is not a club I would list with PDA for getting your daughter into a college program. Their girls program has been on a steady decline and more keep leaving. They may not even be able to field a U16 team this year. Merging with Cedar Stars was death to the girls program.

NJSA coach is a low level assistant for a boys college team and may know some coaches but trust me, there are a lot of coaches out there with D1 connections, even some you would not think could have them.

Anonymous said...

players can call/email DI/DII coaches but coaches can't return calls/emails. coach has to answer the phone, then you can talk.

communicate through club coach

previous relationship- private training/ODP/club coach- you can talk to coach at any time.

DIII coach can call you at any time.

Anonymous said...

Commit....until they change their mind. It means nothing.

Anonymous said...

NJSA coach will tell you he knows everyone. I can tell you he knows more coaches than I do but that aint saying much at all. How do you say blow hard.

Anonymous said...

I know you don't put your name on these posts, but I am sure if you did there would be much less. Be careful who you accuse of posting...if you don't know it to be true, be careful

Anonymous said...

Accuse of posting? What do you mean?

Anonymous said...

I can not believe all this bs over YOUTH soccer. Who gives a shit what decision we make for our kids. If it is what our kids want who is anyone to judge. Everyone should just stop this crap and grow up. Let's be realistic there is no professional path for the girls so if the play in college or not is a form of tuition assistance. Everyone should be talking to the girls about life after soccer not who plays where and who is doing what. Teach them to be better than then parents bashing on this site.

Anonymous said...



That was heart warming

blah blah blah

Anonymous said...

I am not sure how anyone can "claim" to know who is posting which post unless it was a direct conversation you had with that person.

for the person that seems to have special powers...what club does my kid play for? LOL

Anonymous said...

945 - I had a bit of a hard time following your post. But I get the picture and I do agree with you.

949 - I had no problem at all following your post. It was very clear and shows me that the blah blah blah queen is back. If you have nothing of any substance, why do you bother commenting ?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Schmuck here, be grateful that your daughter is heathy, willing to play,,have love for this sport. If you as a parent can afford this sport be grateful. Remember this enjoy watching your kids play. Soccer is a small fraction of their lives.some will play in college and some won't. Enjoy these moments because they will be history soon. Some of you need to stop living your dreams through your daughters. Sit back and watch your daughter play and enjoy it.

Anonymous said...

Tragedy in south jersey today when four girls headed to charity tournament were hit by another car who drifted over the centerline. One girl very critical and not a very good prognosis.
Keep your perspective people. This is a time we should all enjoy our children playing a game they love.

Anonymous said...

Very sad to here. We should keep things in perspective and enjoy our time with our daughters. They grow up way to fast.

Anonymous said...

I just looked on the SJA website and their mission statements is word for word the same as PDA..even down to the scholarships part

How can you take a club seriously when they have just cut and pasted their "philosophy" from another club..I get PDA is the one to follow but use some brains here!!

Alarm bells for me if that is where's daughter was, clearly a disaster waiting to happen...

Anonymous said...

Good job SJA, you really are that dumb.

Anonymous said...

I'm shocked - Southern beat Pinelands 3-0 go figure!

Anonymous said...

What is so shocking about that?

Anonymous said...

Curious to get opinions ... Please no trashing or comments to this post that don't answer the question ... Who is the best coach-trainer at this age taking into account skills development, tactical and game intelligence development, positive demeanor with girls, playing them at right level in right tournaments ... Can we name names of coaches out here. I know girls are verboten.

Anonymous said...

since you cannot name names without deletion...you question is worthless.

Anonymous said...

The question is priceless, DH. The answers would be worthless. Yours is less than worthless.

Anonymous said...

Let's try something out and see if the moderator lets it stand.

Here I am identifying some coaches. I am not claiming they are good or bad. Just naming them.

1. Coach of PDA O'Reilly

2. Coach of MF ECNL

3. Coach of Jersey United

4. Coach of COPA Celeste

5. Coach of PDA Blue

6. Coach of STA

7. Coach of NJSA

There. Some coaches have been identified. We can all look up the names if we need to.

Can I state opinions here such as the STA coach is brilliant. Or the PDA O'Reilly coach is just OK - he is good at motivation but not a very good tactician ... just for instance.

Anonymous said...

The best coach in NJ is NJ Crush coach by far.. What he has done with the talent he has been given and PDA/MF departures is by far the best coaching job I have seen.

Anonymous said...

MF ECNL coach just takes new girls that are really fast. Doesn't really take skilled soccer players other than what he started with. He is definitely not a foot skills guy, but he is a tactician in that he takes speedy girls who try to beat the defense. Doesn't belong on the list in my opinion if you are truly looking for a good coach.

Anonymous said...

Good question 11:15pm. I'd be curious to know peoples thoughts on coaches within the top teams in the State.

Anonymous said...

You are obviously a Blues parent. Blues dont belong in that group of teams by any means.

Anonymous said...

10:52am. Agreed, PDA Blues are 15th in State and IMO fortunate to be that high! Mediocre and not worth putting into this discussion

Anonymous said...

I would say that a good coach is someone who is consistent. Dont allow a player to only show up for what they can make because they play a different sport. At this age and level you need to have commitment and when you bend the rules for one, others will leave. You as a coach lose credibility. Proof is in the lack of teams that one of these clubs has in this age group.

Anonymous said...

The description of the mf ecnl coach would be the epitome of what is wrong with us youth soccer. So the mf girls are going to get good attention as a team for a few years but it surely seems they are being cheated and not getting their money on the development side. Is this true? Imagine what a good coach could do with nice talent like that. Do the parents know this? If they are mostly paying top mf dollars to get their girls a scholarship then I guess it doesn't matter that they are being deprived of the chance to maximize their potential.

Anonymous said...

7:01 True story re: MF ECNL coach. He TOLD the parents that he is not a foot skills coach. He is more tactical. Unfortunately his tactics are a bit unethical and certainly, as you say, depriving the girls of maximizing their potential.

Anonymous said...

Not a foot skills coach ?

Isn't that like a track coach for 100m dash telling parents he is not a speed coach ? It's like a law professor telling his students he doesn't teach law.

Look - I think I get where this guy is coming from. He might be saying to the girls - work on your skills on your own. When you come here, we are going to be working on team play and tactics. I think the older you get, you will see much more of that.

Time permitting maybe this guy would work in some skills, but then the tuition would double.

There is NEVER a time in a soccer players career when footskills should be de-prioritized. Even the best keep working on them and trying to get better.

But to say ... I'm not a footskills coach.

Youth soccer idiocy is alive and well in NJ.

And this is supposedly the best MF has to offer.

Anonymous said...

The MF coach probably wants to charge extra for foot skill training on a separate night similar to what the SJA coach does . Go NJSA their coach includes foot skills in their regular training

Anonymous said...

1:53pm. Go anywhere besides MF and the coach should include foot skills in regular training!

Anonymous said...

1:53 you played for the SJA coach. You know he does all foot skills every practice for the whole first half of every session. Now you bash SJA. It's funny how you know so much about the SJA program, weren't you negotiating with the SJA program. Then everything back fired on you? Your right go NJSA. Good luck this year. I think it's time to stop living thru your kid. Let it be her time. Leave the coaches alone, including her HS coach. Typical parent that has to be in everyone's pocket to help your kid succeed. She will succeed without your help, you are just holding her back.

Anonymous said...

NJSA just post players are needed. You might be better off rather than bashing MF, SJA and everyone else. Don't you have jackets to buy for your 10 players at NJSA like you did for your daughters HS team?

Anonymous said...

You really believe that the MF coach doesn't work on foot skills? You are foolish.

Back to the original question about coaches. The MF ECNL is definitely an amazing coach. He took a group of girls who had never played together before to #2 in their division, behind only OR. Took them to National Semi-finals. He's coached the U18 team since they were 7 years old to multiple National titles. Give credit where credit is due please. I don't know him, but I know what he has done and can do. I wish my daughter could play for him.

I'm sure he has certain types of girls he is looking for for certain positions. Maybe the girl you know that he took, he took for a certain reason. I know he took girls from YMS and NJSA. I have a feeling they are coming with some talent.

Clearly the PDA OR coach is good as well. I don't know anything about him except that even at u10 he had those girls passing and playing positions like no other team out there. His list of accomplishments is endless.

I actually think my daughters coach is a great coach. They are not a top 10 team, but without him they may not even be in the top 25. You can't equate high rankings to a good coach.. depends on the talent that is given.

Anonymous said...

Will Pinelands win a game this year? I mistakenly thought they would be a power in 2014

Anonymous said...

5:18 Please check your facts. The MF ECNL coach NEVER won a National Title for his now U18 team at any age group. Yes, they made it to Nationals, but the title has been elusive for him. (yes I said him, not them!)

HE DOES NOT TEACH FOOTSKILLS. He, himself, stated that.

He picked up a bunch of skilled players for his now U16 team, but that's what he got, NOT made. Since then, on both teams, he consistently picks up FAST girls, not necessarily girls with ball skills and he doesn't train them in ball handling. If they have both, it's a bonus.

Anonymous said...

if he is such a great coach then why did so many players leave that they had to tap into the NPL team for 3 players? all of which REFUSED to move up. NPL felt like the ugly stepchild. MF always takes players from the lower teams leaving those teams struggling with continuity and success.



curious and please answer ONLY if you know for sure:

how many of those U18s were on the U7 team?




Anonymous said...

Agree with post from last week about the NJ Crush coach being excellent. Let's see what happens this year after losing 4 more players to ECNL. Lost nearly full roster in last few years to ECNL, maybe ECNL clubs should use him for training. Crush has become a feeder club for ECNL, what a shame.

Anonymous said...

10:58 If I am reading your post correctly, you are asking how many U18s are still left from u17 team? If so, all of them. He did "lose" a few to college, but he picked up ONE from the NPL team (which he rarely does, because he goes outside the club continually for players), he picked up ONE from the older group (must have been playing up?)

Additionally, he has one player who is carded to both the MF and another club's team--non MF (at least she was last season. . how is that allowed?) He has a roster of 27 but that includes some of the girls that are presently playing in college. I guess he expects them to play in the spring when they return.

Anonymous said...

no, not U17.

someone stated he's coached the U18 team since U7 (seven). I was curious how many girls have been on that team since U7 (SEVEN)? if there aren't any than the statement is irrelevant.

there is ONE player on NJSA Sting that has been there since the team started at U10. that is only 7 years and only 1 remains.

Anonymous said...

There are quite a few left on the team believe it or not. Maybe 8. I wonder how many original OR girls are from the original team? I know at least 4.

I have personally seen the ECNL u16 (then u15) working on foot skills at an indoor facility last winter. So I don't know where you got your info. And if you insist that you heard it from the coach, then you must have misunderstood.

NPL players not moving up to ECNL for a game or two had nothing to do with the coach. Only a few left , a normal turn over, mostly based on play time I'm sure. Or maybe they were cut, who knows. But you can compare the rosters and see that there wasn't much turnover.

I'm sure the Crush coach does the best with the talent that he has left. They had a rough season in the NPL last year. With the recent loses to ECNL, it should be interesting to see how they do this year. I have heard good things about the coach.

What about the Jett Cobra coach? I have heard great things about her... I believe it is a her... Jenny B Elite training or something like that. They came out of nowhere to become a top 10 team. Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

5:41 I misunderstood. Remaining on now U18 ECNL team from when they were U7 are 2 players. 3 if you count the one who left for college but is still age eligible when she comes back in spring.

Lot's of turnover during the years and as is his practice always looking for the next fastest player to add to his roster, and he does have a quite a few.

Anonymous said...

This blog cracks me up. One says 8, one says 2. I actually know 4 original girls. So who knows the correct answer... and who cares.

I'm surprised OR is still picking up girls at this age. They just took another National Pool player from u17 Rush. The rich get richer.

Anonymous said...

There are only 2 (3) original girls. FACT. The question was from the U7 team. That's all that's left.

Anonymous said...

2-3 out of a normal MF roster of 25? doesn't say much about development if many of the original team is still playing.

Anonymous said...

How many of our daughters are still playing with people from their original team at u7? Not many I bet. Like someone mentioned above, there are at least FOUR original Colts, but perhaps 2 have gone to college and one is no longer age appropriate. There are also many that joined u8, u9 etc.

No one answered the question about original OR girls. I am curious to know. I think they formed at u8 or u9. The National pool player they just picked up is also in the running for All American. I have never seen her play but she must be amazing.



Anonymous said...

Appears that BEC took over the Force FC of NYE to fill it's u16 spot.

I know a few girls from the original team went to World Class, Crush, and their best player to PDA Blues.

I wonder what the motivation behind all of this was and where the rest of the girls will end up.

Anonymous said...

2:25pm. If their "best" player went to Blues then that BEC team wasn't that strong

Anonymous said...

She's actually a very good player. Not sure why she chose to go there. I was wondering as well.

Anonymous said...

BEC has consistently lost top players over the last few years. she is prob the last of the original players to move. parent very involved in NJ stallions.

great kid!

Anonymous said...

BEC parent group was dysfunctional. Hence why their players constantly left and coaches were replaced and now are totally defunct.

As for the PDA C team, lost their best striker after her being there for 2 months. Chose to go back to her town team (says a lot). And their best defender joined the PDA South team. They now don't score goals and the defender held them together at the back. Should be an interesting season for the PDA Kool Aid drinkers.

Anonymous said...

I suppose you are talking about the Blues when you say C. You are wrong about a couple of things. They are not A/B etc, they are separate teams. You also are wrong about "their best striker". If you ever saw the Blues play you would immediately realize that they had no scoring option up top and that was their biggest problem. So, Dad or Mom, if you took your daughter back to her town team good luck there.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like a parent or two have it in for the Blues. I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

Their best striker played for them last Fall. Big, quick, strong. And she went back to FC Premier in Westfield.

Anonymous said...

Somebody has a ton of old info about the Blues. Why is that?
Why do they keep mentiniong the Blues? hmmm...

Anonymous said...

Dr detective it does not take a brain surgeon to figure out it is the forwards parent.

Anonymous said...

if you think YOUR parent group is not dysfunctional then you are delusional. LOL

Anonymous said...

My daughter plays for the Blues, and I will be clear, I have no idea who this so called star forward is. I don't remember seeing one. Blues are a good team, looking to get better. The girls and parents all seem to get along, I have not seen a single incident to prove otherwise.

Anonymous said...

I have seen them play and they seemed to be ok to solid all around. Nothing special. Maybe a good defender and some decent foot skills. Just a team to play on as all of these are fairly equal.

Anonymous said...

Let's go Wildcats!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Half of Blues roster is new... so who knows. I know 2 other solid players who are new, plus the BEC ODP National player, you never know.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Blues parents are not on here because just anyone has that information.

Anonymous said...

Dont worry about PDA Blues, all is just fine. Some good left, some good coming aboard. No one believes we are a Nationally ranked team, we know who we are.

Anonymous said...

That's good.. PDA B or C teams should know what they are..

and what PDA means for them!

Pay
Demanded
Amount

Anonymous said...

PDA-Players Developed Already

Anonymous said...

Actually all the PDA Girls teams should REALLY know who they are.......they provide the cashflow to the boys teams which are FREE. PDA says thank you girls.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats are on the move!!! Watch out. Here we come!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Move out of nj. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Let's go Wildcats ! Wildcats are on the move !!! Watch out. Here we come!!!

Intelligent comments are always welcome ?

You've got to be kidding me.

What parent would write this ?

Even the 15-16 year olds on the Wildcats team would be ashamed to post something so adolescent.

What are you trying to prove, Wildcats ? And to whom ?

For now, just be quiet, practice hard and wait for your games to start. Prove it on the field.

Anonymous said...

Are wildcats playing anywhere noteworthy this fall.

Anonymous said...

Sting will dominate the Wildcats, the Crew and PDA Magic and remanin the # 1 team in the shore area

Anonymous said...

Sting? Do they have enough players? I do know their coach is still making the phone calls and looking for players. Why so confident? Your coach isn't. PDA Magic? Never even played a game. What makes you think they are any good?

Anonymous said...

A coach with a team of 15 would naturally look to bring on a few players for the following reasons

.. Money in his pocket
.. Injuries
.. Competition writin team
.. Overall squad depth

None of these things mean he is not confident with the 15 he does have.

Not sure what the case is with njsa.

What do we know about their coach ?

Anonymous said...

Many of the girls from mf ecnl are from the shore area. I would think they would have Something to say to the 112 blogger. Is njsa really in mfs league.

I do agree they Should remain better than wildcats for sure.

Anonymous said...

if you are not sure about NJSA then how do you know they have 15 players? Looks like the coach is on this site.

Anonymous said...

NJSA is notorious for reaching out to players (with this coach). He is very honest in his approach and what he would expect out of a player. He will let you know what he can do for you in getting you into college. Will spend an hour on the phone with you if you like, and will walk you through the strengths and weaknesses of the team to make sure it would be a fit. Not bad.

Anonymous said...

You can go to Disney and not play soccer you know.

Anonymous said...

so true but this child thought they were playing soccer at Disney.

Anonymous said...

Nice fields at disney. But does a coach, any coach, need to spend that much parent money for no better competition than u can get more regionally? Maybe coach attendance is so much better there.

Anonymous said...

Are there college coaches there? Yes. Will they be at your site, or at your field? It is VERY expensive to go, flights are a joke and hotels are the least expensive item. Food, entertainment, VERY crowed this time of year. Most students go to college within 2 hours of where they live. Disney is a waste of money. For that matter, so is this ridiculous PDA tournament in Florida. WASTE of money. PDA is doing this to market their brand, simple as that! Newsflash to PDA, you go get the coaches to show up to your event and dont ask your players to do so.

Anonymous said...

Disney has VERY good competition. There are MANY college coaches in attendance every year, from all over the country. If your child is in a lower bracket, possibly not as many coaches at the games as at the higher bracket games, but still a great showing by the colleges.

Yes it is expensive, but it is one of the best showcases around if your child wants to play in college. Granted, NOT the only place to be seen, but a great place to be seen if you want to pay.

Anonymous said...

To 742 ... What u wrote is correct. But the point I'm making is that the level of competition and the college coaches present is not far enough superior to what one can find within 6-8 hour drive of our area to warrant a coaches decision to drag 18 girls and a parent to an experience, that while an adventure and hopefully a good one, will improve the chances of being noticed that dramatically. If all parents were as we'll off as the top 20 pct. on each team, then no problem. But I think the reason coaches and clubs drag their teams there is more for the ego of the coach, the promotion of the club or team and to be used as leverage in recruiting. This is like a fisherman looking for worms turning over a whole acre of soil when a square foot would have done the trick. All this travel benefit the very few and not the many, while at the same time feeding a system that thrives on our aspirations for our girls. So we are dropping thousands of tourist dollars to airlines, hotels, restaurants and providing a living and free trips for mostly jackass coaches that we put our faith in .. That's right ... They expense all this to you.

Don't get me wrong ... The kids love it. I enjoy and will probably do it again. You don't hold your daughter back from something the entire team is doing. Find a different team instead. But let's at least be honest about what actual benefit is being derived and by whom.

Anonymous said...

8:30 I couldn't agree with you more. I have done the Disney thing.....just not worth it. 700 per plane ticket, if you are lucky. Did I see college coaches, sure but they were few and far between. (I was there for the top bracket also). Teams, save your money you will need it for college. Some clubs mandate tournaments you have to go to and at first it sounds great but then you realize that they are making you go to promote themselves. Cost them ZERO.

Anonymous said...

dude if you're paying 700.00 per ticket to get there then you need to either get out of first class or drive. our tickets were 350.00 (still 100.00+ more than I have ever paid before).

agree it is not worth it unless you can make a vacation out of it. the extra surcharge for hotel and having to PAY to watch your kid play is expensive. luckily we have family in the area and the rest of the family will just hang by the pool during the tournament. no cost there!

Anonymous said...

Dude, if you are paying 35o then you booked it a LOOOOONG time ago, or you are flying from NJ to Chicago to Atlanta to Orlando. Either way, at 350 plus luggage it just isnt worth it. Bringing your family? Costs just went through the roof. Exposure? Only to the sun.

Anonymous said...

Use it as vacation......

Anonymous said...

Vacation? Not if you are on a truly competitive team. No time to walk the parks, need to save energy. Should be in team meetings. Why are you going to this Disney Tournament, to be seen by college coaches right. Treat it like a business trip. Sorry..............NOT worth the money.

Anonymous said...

there is time for both. business and pleasure, but the soccer comes first. you're not gonna be in team meetings every hour you are not playing.

use the pools.

parks - that's another story - if you have the time and the $$, but up goes your cost dramatically.

We didn't go to the parks and 90% of the team's time was spent with each other, even if not in a team meeting, but it was enjoying and relaxing.

While you are there, make the best of it. And the last thing you want to do is take the enjoyment out of the trip - soccer or otherwise not forgetting you are there for one reason. You want a family vacation, plan a family vacation.

Nonetheless, it is all too much, too expensive and imo, unnecessary as compared to the potential benefit derived.

Anonymous said...

1:16 BINGO just NOT worth it

Anonymous said...

Easy to get sucked in. And you find yourself traveling the country at the whims of a less than stellar coach who lines his pockets regardless of what is done for your daughter.

Good for the wealthy and the top couple players. All else .. We are just along for the ride, but we do help make other people good money

Anonymous said...

dude, booked it last week.
direct flight.

Anonymous said...

Dude = Liar

Anonymous said...

Very wrong to throw out the liar accusation. You don't know what he paid. Could be that he couldn't leave on the dates or times or airports where the 350 flights were available. Maybe there were cheaper flights but this person chose to pay more for convenience factors.

Why are some people so quick to assume the worst and throw out insults. Your not face to face, let alone know where thiserson looked.

Maybe the person is not savvy or made a costly mistake. That doesn't make the dude a liar.

Anonymous said...

Newark to Orlando non stop is going for 675-770 per ticket, now.

It is worth it though, you MIGHT be at a field where there is a coach and he MIGHT happen to be watching while you are playing and he MIGHT be interested or he MIGHT just be an assistant who really doesnt know what he wants. MAYBE.

Anonymous said...

Funny how when people "can't" find things they assume others are lying. You couldn't have looked very well.

Found this JUST NOW. Spirit. Leaving 12/30. returning 1/2. Total Due $336 without seat assignment and bags. direct flight both ways.

I also paid $350.00 for my daughter but that included bag and seat assignment. I booked (3 weeks ago?) as soon as the roster was released.

If you regularly search for the best cost per flight, you will find that search/purchase earlier in the week (best day is tuesday) is ALWAYS cheaper than later in the week. booking/purchase on fri-sat-sun is ALWAYS more expensive.

Anonymous said...

and yes, out of AC but isn't a 1-2 hour ride (cheaper parking as well) worth saving $350? it is for me.

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