So if you want to play on an ecnl team and odp which are in two areas, which odp team do you play on? The one located in your ecnl area or the one closest to your home?
@12:28pm. Closest to your home. ODP has no affiliation with the ECNL.
Absolutely. If you have the money, play ecnl. But realistically she needs to play on the best team possible where she starts or gets optimum playing time. Love all those 24 + rosters on ecnl when only 18 can dress for games. Hey coach, that's me under the blanket at the end of the bench. Might play tomorrow. Or try paying all the fees then pay the travel costs to Texas(flight/hotel/food) another $1500and only dress play for one or two games of the three. Yes! the top 11-14 ecnl players get excellent exposure, but top 11-14 players on any National League team, Region 1 Champions League ALL get great exposure. Question is, IS it really worth being one of the roster filler players. I mean how much fun is that for your player??
I am not sure about the relevance of ODP in Girls soccer, but I can tell you with certainty that for boys soccer, it is just an irrelevent money making scam tailored for rich parents.
@ January 13, 2015 at 4:18 PMTotally agree. My daughter was best on top team in the state as well. Tried ODP one year and terrible. If you go to region camps and have your child stuck in a group with girls from some state associations that just accept everyone that shows up, then it makes out for a terrible time. Can't play real nice fast, possession soccer. Waste of money and time.
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Any word of odp try out results yet?
The ODP results should be posted tomorrow .
99/98 results posted
Can anyone speak to how beneficial Region 1 camp in Rhode Island is for Girls side - specifically Goalkeepers? Is instruction and time spent on the field worth the cost? Has anyone's daughter gone as a goalkeeper? Thanks in advance.
@9:09 I agree. And for NPL players isn't ODP a straight-up good thing? Seems like this gives girls another opportunity for some higher-level coaching. Even if they don't go to the camp the 8 weeks of coaching and tourney play have to be an overall positive.
I can only speak for the girls' programs. The region 1 camp is simply a means to make the regional team. The Boca Raton interregional is one of the most heavily scouted events in the country. If your kid can make that squad it is another avenue for exposure. As a camp only, the region 1 camp is not really a skill builder it is mostly scrimmages to be able to pick the regional team. There is a lot of movement in the iD lists. I do think they try to be fair. Politics account for a few players, but surprisingly few.
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ODP does it again. I really can not believe who they take and omit. I just cant imagine what they are looking at.
@3:35 as the mom of an ODP selectee, I'm truly curious as to what you mean. I have no axe to grind and am just trying to educate myself. Are you suggesting that the girls who were selected are not good enough to be there? Were there girls trying out who didn't make it that you thought should have? It looked like an awfully light turnout at the two April tryouts; maybe a bunch of people simply decided not to participate?
Can someone explain to me the point of the ODP camp? If a kid goes through to the tournament, what happens next? My child has a conflict this summer -- she's already committed to a college ID camp, and it's a school she wants to attend. But what's the downside to missing the ODP camp?
@2:01 from your post it seems like missing the ODP camp would mean no chance of making the Regional team. Am I reading that correctly? Is that a hard and fast rule?
With very few exceptions related to illness or injury in a kid who was on the team the previous year or well known to be a complete stud, the kids have to do the camp to be chosen for the interregional team.
@8:06 am I completely agree with you. My daughter is with the 2000s. It is strongly suggested to go to camp. Also, I had a chance to watch the 99s v 98s. The 99s looked really good. There was a striker on the 99s that was destroying the 98s. I know it is early to tell but 99s may do well. If and when the 00s play the 99s in a scrimmage, it will be interesting to watch.
Thanks, @8:06, that's helpful. I guess we'll cross that bridge when/if we get there. I'm thinking that since the point of all this is to introduce my daughter to the right coach(es) so she can play in college, going to the school camp would be more important. It's already a school she wants to go to so all that's left is for her to make the team.
@10:05 - Make sure that the camp she will be going to will confirm that the coach(s) from that school will be in attendance. Depending on the school, most of the coaches are either, coaching their respective club teams for the summer or they are at an event scouting players. My oldest daughter went to one of those camps. She said it was a good experience to visit the college. The head coach was not in attendance for that ID camp. It was the assistant - assistant coach and some players handling the ID camp. Note….the school was D1. Granted, the coach was probably taking notes/etc. . Even though my daughter enjoyed the visit, I personally chalked it up as a mini-summer camp for my daughter and a fund raising opportunity for the soccer program at that particular school.
FYIFrequently the associate coaches (second in command) are actually in charge of organizing recruiting. At the top programs the coaches will have to see your kid in cimpetiition with his/ her club. The iD camp puts your kid on their list to see at the next event. Sometimes they have already seen you kid play and the iD camp can cement the deal. In general they are worthwhile especially if you know the school has seen your kid play. Have the kid Email them ahead and tell them that they have seen her play at such and such event and that this school is her/ his top choice. He/ she is therefore coming to the ID camp hopefully to give the coach another perspective on their play, training work ethic and personality. It can lead to an offer. They aren't just a money grab for some kids who know they are of the level and especially if there has already been some interest. Good luck.
I would agree with @1:43pm. I think you are about 70% right regarding your point. I have a friend who is a D2 coach. Granted it is D2 that he coaches but he explained that the he runs the camps because that is what his predecessor did. My friend said that it is hard to evaluate a player at the ID camps because of varying levels of skill. Remember, the ID camps are open to whoever wants to show up. You pay then you participate. My friend said that he uses the ID camp to promote the college more so than ID’ing talent. He said that he already has his mind made up for who he will take for the next season. He did say that every now and then.......EVERY now and then…..someone will come through the ID camp and he will have a second look at them at a showcase. It has been awhile since that has happened per my friend. Don’t get me wrong, ID camps may work for some but I would suggest making sure the coach/school that you are interested in attending will see you in a competitive environment with similar skilled players.
In reading many of these posts, you folks are absolutely clueless about what ODP is, and is not. Including whether it is "relevant" or not. My advice is don't take advice from a parent via a blog. Get the FACTS.
Should we follow your advice since you are a parent on a blog?
ODP is a great resource to add to the soccer resume. My oldest went through the ODP process and now my youngest. I think it is up to personal experience. My opinion, it is similar to an individual’s experience on a club team, if you are not happy…..move on. Someone eluded to the fact that it is a “Money grab”. You have to “pay to play” everywhere…..club, elite, camps…etc. They are all “Money grabs”. Soccer in NJ is not free. Side note….my oldest is playing D1 soccer and my youngest is on a current ECNL team. The only issue that I have with ODP vs ECNL currently…..is the conflicting tournaments vs ODP commitments…..other than that….great experience. Based on my oldest daughters recruiting experience, the coach was impressed with the level of soccer she participated in (ECNL, ODP, ID camps, etc). If your child is college bound with the possible ambition to play soccer, I would think the soccer resume is key however you can make it work.
Is it mandatory for a player to stay at the prescribed hotel for the PDA tournament? Any help would be appreciated.
From what I have heard, if you are a team that is travelling, you have to book through the travel agency set up by PDA. If I am not mistaken, if a team indicates that they are travelling, PDA requires you to use that agency. We are local so obviously we have no need to use them but a friend travelling with their team said they have to book with the PDA required agency.
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