Sunday, September 29, 2013

ODP (Olympic Development Program) - Region I and Beyond

2013-2014 ODP: Comments, feedback, questions, friendlies, selection process and more.

81 comments:

Anonymous said...

97 and 98's still have a training session this Sunday? Website says it will most likely change but no information available. Snow on the turf? Anyone know?

New Jersey Youth Soccer Assoc. said...

NJ ODP Weekend Update:

ODP TRAINING THIS WEEKEND IS ON!

1997 and 1998 Boys:

SUNDAY, FEB. 2
4-6pm
Location: Mercer County Community College Turf Field

2003 “North” (Uppers (North/Central) Boys and Girls U11s:

SUNDAY, FEB. 2
• Girls 5-6:30pm
• Boys 6:30-8pm
Location: Turf City, Wayne

2000s:

SUNDAY, FEB 9
2-4pm
Location: Mercer County Community College Turf Field

1999 Boys:

SUNDAY, FEB 9
4-6pm
Location: Mercer County Community College Turf Field

For the latest updates and changes for NJ ODP and any New Jersey Youth Soccer events, please connect with us on social media:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/New-Jersey-Youth-Soccer-Association/140022801366

Twitter:
@njyouthsoccer

Anonymous said...

Way to have updated info njys.

New Jersey Youth Soccer Assoc. said...
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New Jersey Youth Soccer Assoc. said...

FEBRUARY 2 UPDATE:

Even with the warm afternoon, Mercer Cty. CC turf is not playable. Unfortunately, we are forced to cancel the outdoor trainings for Boys 1997 and 1998 scheduled for today. This training will not be rescheduled.

The 1998 roster for the VA Friendlies is closed. A few spots remain open for the 1997s. Please call the office on Monday if you were selected for the 1997 State Pool and wish to participate.

2003 BOYS AND GIRLS TRAINING:

Today's indoor training in Wayne will proceed as scheduled.


Anonymous said...

So that either means: a) they didn't have enough (quality) 1997s tryout or b) they did, but offered spots to the regional players coming back, and those kids turned down ODP.

Fewer kids = more playing time in VA and more chance to make the final team I guess. But fewer kids = less money for NJYS.

I have seen as many as 28 kids on the sidelines for a single VA friendly game, I hope that is not the case this year.

Anonymous said...

I have never seen that many. I have seen them cap the number at 22 so everyone plays one half per game.

Anonymous said...

Anyone know if there is snow on the ground in Williamsburg?

Anonymous said...

It's supposed to be in the 50s next weekend there, so it should be fine in two weeks.

They did have 9.5" of snow in the past month though.

IIRC, it was FC there last time we went, definitely invest in the Underarmor for your child. And you.

Anonymous said...

My son, a 1997, was selected for ODP for the first time (ODP was not previously available without 4 our drive to nighttime practices - but now we have satellite training much closer to home). Great for younger kids. But I'm looking for opinions from those of you who have been around. What's the benefit of attending region 1 ID camp as a rising HS junior? It conflicts with ID camps at colleges he's very interested in. Better to be seen by 3-4 coaches who he wants to play for? Or be challenged at Region 1 and seen by a more random selection of coaches? All opinions welcome.

Anonymous said...

My opinion for what its worth: Ask his coach (ODP and club) if he is potentially regional team level. If not, then may be better to go to the college camp. If he is a contender, having region 1 team on his list of accomplishments is very helpful to get the coaches to give him a close look. It could also very well open doors. Additionally, many coaches will also be at region 1 camp looking at the kids playing in the ID pool games throughout the camp. Many are from very respectable colleges througout the northeast. In fact the college which conflicts may be sending an assistant. Maybe have your son email the coach of the conflicting camp and explain the situation. It may be that he will then instruct the assistant to give your boy a look. Good luck

Anonymous said...

College ID camps are not always useful.

And NJ only has one 1997 team (yes, Virginia, the schedule for your 2014 friendlies is up on GotSoccer!) so his chances at the final pool, and therefore going to the Region 1 camp and ODP tournament, are good.

We found the regional camp worthwhile. It did not see fair considering which kids were moved up to the regional pool games, and one kid made the Region 1 next camp round without being in a regional pool game. Another NJ defender made the second camp, and other than size, his outstanding characteristic was scoring own goals in the ODP tournament.

Unless he is contacting the college coaches and they want him to go and tell him they will be recruiting there, not just to get the money, I'd say take the Region 1 camp over the college camps.

Different if he is on their short list, but most coaches value tournament and league play over camp experiences, unless the camp is by invite only. The only camps my son found useful were those on the college campus with only that college's coaches attending, along with current players.

We decided to go with a recruting service, and the first thing they tell you is that most college camps are not worth the money.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, here is the link:
http://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?EventID=37376

for the VA friendlies.

If your son is a 1997, you can easily figure out when his games will be. Other ages have two or three teams.

Anonymous said...

That link does not tell me what team my son is scheduled to be on. Is there another link?

Anonymous said...

Good Luck to the NJ '97 girls who will be competing in the National ODP finals in Arizona in two weeks.

They will be facing some tough competition in California, Illinois and Florida.

Anonymous said...

It says my son is on NJ team A is this based on skill level or just random because there is a regional player on it.

Anonymous said...

The comment above has to do with the virginia friendlies.

Anonymous said...

A and B have nothing to do with skill level, but where do you even see where your son was placed?

Anonymous said...

1997 boys only have one team at the Virginia Friendlies (U17 is 1997s). Therefore, if your kid paid the money and signed up, they are on team A.

There are at least two teams in all other age groups. In that case, you should look at the schedule for the age group and at least have some idea when your son might play.

I know that at the youngest ages, they have at least a North and South team, and maybe a Central team too.

No email from NJ ODP yet this week, has anyone got one?

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New Jersey Youth Soccer Assoc. said...

The best way to connect with NJ Youth Soccer and NJ ODP for the latest news and updates is via social media:

FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/pages/New-Jersey-Youth-Soccer-Association/140022801366

TWITTER:
@njyouthsoccer

Check our homepage for pertinent links and information for this weekend's Boys ODP Friendlies at
www.njyouthsoccer.com.

SCHEDULE: http://events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=37376

Anonymous said...

How is it possible that so many players can come from one club team? An average at best club team. Do Club coaches have any pull in the decision process?

Anonymous said...

My son had a good time in VA, it was clear to him that some players should not have been there. There were good players and no one was horrible but lack of effort by some was evident. Why go through the process if you are not going to get back on defense?

Anonymous said...

9:33 Maybe those were the best players that were at tryouts?

11:24 My daughter also had a blast they really lucked out with the weather, besides Friday's Tornado Watch - 67-71 can't be beat in February.

I also did notice not to many players getting back on defense. To much "for self" at this tournament - to much dribbling which caused way to many "off side" calls all legit and a bunch of wrong decisions, maybe goes to 9:33's point of girls from the same team/club.

In general - all the games were close - a little to direct for my liking but it was fun to watch my daughter play and make new friends.

Anonymous said...

I agree about the defense, it was pretty bad that there were center midfielders who were never near their own penalty box. I saw forwards making more contributions on defense because they had to due to mids and even defenders playing way too far up.
A few players were clearly not fit and others wanted nothing to do with their teammates. I don't envy picking the final team, because there clearly were "big but not fast" and "small but fast" players and they didn't play the same style of soccer.

Kudos to the ref crews, not only did we like the refs we saw, we saw very few complaints compared to previous years.

Anonymous said...

It is an individual event for NJ, no one really cares about the team because there is no actual team. Easy job for the refs.

Anonymous said...

And you really think the $30/hour ref is fully aware of that?

A ref coaches a game. The make-up of each team has no bearing on his work.

Anonymous said...

You think they get paid 30$ an hour?

Anonymous said...

I was pleasantly surprised this year with ODP and the changes they've made. Simple changes like new shirts to what I consider major changes in attitude in the coaching staff and their interaction with the kids. Do I think there is room for improvement, yes, but I and my son like what we are seeing as both of us were skeptical going into this based on our previous experiences. I would love to see the team after the final selection and a few practices play some of the academy teams or an outside tournament.
As far as the overall depth of the bench and the quality, I agree there are a few that are challenged at this level of play and fitness, the coach actually addressed this to the kids and parents at the end. It's a tryout and who knows who is going to stick around for the full commitment. Our team was very diverse, the other team had quite a few players from the same team but I didn't view that as politics. I see it as that team had a strong showing at the tryouts. My kids team only had one other that tried out. Had more tried out I'm sure the number representing our team would have been much higher as well. I agree the bar is set a lot higher than previous years and when it gets down to deciding those that are on the bubble it's going to be tough.

Anonymous said...

What birth year is your son?

Anonymous said...

Stumbled upon this blog while looking up upcoming tryout dates for my U11 daughter. I just wanted to say that NJ ODP has been a positive experience for my U15 daughter. She made it to Region 1 after the Rhode Island camp her first year. Her second year she didn't make Region 1, and so now she has to start the process over, starting again to tryout at the state level. Through ODP she has been exposed to so many different coaches, and different styles of training, which has made her a better player. Also, there are hundreds of girls in her age bracket, and it has only pushed her to work harder in attempts to stand out. It was hard for her when she didn't get "pulled" for National camp after attending Region 1, and then again when she didn't get "pulled" for Region 1 last year. But that too has made her stronger, and she doesn't want to quit. Most importantly, she has met so many girls throughout the state of NJ, and the Region, and has made lasting friendships. She keeps in touch with a lot of the girls throughout the year, and that too has made her a better, and mature player. I can't say enough positive things about the program, and I am hoping my youngest follows in her older sister's footsteps. :)

Anonymous said...

My daughter is also a NJ 1998. She has loved her ODP experience. She has met a lot of good friends, teammates, and coaches through ODP.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is also in ODP and has been having a great experience and wonderful friendships. For the folks asking about the boys side of ODP, my son plays for USSDA academy so they are not allowed to tryout for ODP as USSDA is a direct link to National team and Colleges. The reason you may not have seen more top talent 99, 98, 97's etc from a variety of academies at tryouts is likely for this reason. If your son has strong college potential, have him tryout for an academy. 4 in NJ: Red Bulls, NJSA04, PDA, Matchfit.

Anonymous said...

The academies are not the same. Two of the four brag if anyone on their team gets into a top college, and both of those have had players taken for U18 academy, even after a player has committed.

Frankly, if it isn't RBNY or PDA, I doubt there will be a bonus in recruiting. My son is not on an academy team and is getting decent attention through prospect camps and tournaments. Your son can only play soccer for one college.

Anonymous said...

How soon in advance would they post field closures for the April 2nd state team try-outs? Anyone with experience from years prior.

Anonymous said...

IF you are talking about NJ, you need to follow them on Facebook and Twitter. They post everything there first.

Anonymous said...

I must say as a parent, that this is my first experience with NJ ODP. I had my kid at the tryouts on 4/2/14. The whole thing was an absolute mess. You basically had about 50 or so kids split up in 4 groups with 2 evaluators who spent the majority of the time looking elsewhere and talking amongst themselves. They paid very little attention to the kids and the only thing they had them do was play some small sided games. They also had them juggle the ball for a while. There is absolutely no way any of these kids were given a proper evaluation. I am saying this whether my kid gets selected or not. The whole setup was unprofessional, and has the appearance of a big money grab. The tryouts closely resembled intramural tryouts for a club team. I have heard similar things from other parents, and had a hard time believing this was the way the program was run. The kids were also told if it rained next week there would be no further tryouts other than the one they just had. Absolutely ridiculous!!!!

Anonymous said...

Tryouts are a farce. They go on last years' team and any known studs trying out from known clubs. Only the best of the best might get seen above the cattle drive "small sided games"

Anyone sending a kid to DE region 1 training in a couple of weeks? Probably dumb to have paid for it. I will report on my kid's experience after it's over for younger players to have more information before making the decision.

Anonymous said...

My son was with the older groups, and it seemed rather organized. But they have so few in the two oldest age groups I'm not sure how competitive it really is.

We know better than to expect my son to be picked based on an excellent tryout performance. If he is picked, great, if not, great.

I would say the main reason to do it, if your son or daughter does make the final pool, is if their prospective ODP teammates are better than their current club teammates. The coaches vary a lot and there is no guarantee a coach seen before will show up when the team actually practices.

Anonymous said...

In July, ODP chose a group of "elite" girls to represent region 1 in Costa Rica for some "international" matches. Now it's time to go and they can't scrape together 10 players to go?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like someone on here has some personal issues about the ODP program. If your kid got cut, sorry.

Anonymous said...

In response to I must say as a parent, that this is my first experience with NJ ODP. I had my kid at the tryouts on 4/2/14. The whole thing was an absolute mess. You basically had about 50 or so kids split up in 4 groups with 2 evaluators who spent the majority of the time looking elsewhere and talking amongst themselves. They paid very little attention to the kids and the only thing they had them do was play some small sided games. They also had them juggle the ball for a while. There is absolutely no way any of these kids were given a proper evaluation. I am saying this whether my kid gets selected or not. The whole setup was unprofessional, and has the appearance of a big money grab. The tryouts closely resembled intramural tryouts for a club team. I have heard similar things from other parents, and had a hard time believing this was the way the program was run. The kids were also told if it rained next week there would be no further tryouts other than the one they just had. Absolutely ridiculous!!!!"

What would you do other than small sided games? It gives players more opportunity to be in contact with the ball to see their technical ability. Also they saw my son 8 times! 4 days in the august tryouts, 3 games in virginia and once on 4/2. If a day got canceled because of rain why would they need to make it up? Your son could have 8 evolutions that is plenty in order to select a team!

Anonymous said...

My son is trying out for the NJ U-14 boys team and he has had a great experience through the tryout process so far. He had four tryout days in August, played in Virginia tournament and one tryout last tuesday. All the tryouts were organized and the staff has been very professional. Great experience even if my son is not selected for the final team.

Anonymous said...

Would be nice if they enforced the "No team apparel" rule - even though the email said wear black shorts & white socks, there were girls wearing their PDA blue shorts and socks.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the times for the U12 Girls try outs scheduled for Monday April 14 2014?

Anonymous said...

The times are on the new jersey youth soccer website:

http://www.njyouthsoccer.com/clubsite/?p=4751

Anonymous said...

My son made the 97 boys pool team and was not impressed with the level of talent at all. They had a very small group of boys at this past summers tryouts and they had 14 field players and 2 keepers from last years team. So they are probably only looking for 2-4 additional players. Both my son and another one of his teamates from his NPL academy team decided not to go back for the the April final tryouts so that leaves another 2 open spots. We discussed with several of our coaches along with some College coaches while at ID camps and they are aware that the ODP for boys is just not the same and it really doesn't mean anything to them so we decided to opt out.

Anonymous said...

Guess that was your mistake because my son and 5 other NJ kids who are 97's just got back from a trip with Region 1 to South Africa. Trip of a lifetime for my son.

And you decided to "opt out?"

Ouch.

Anonymous said...

Your nasty and sarcastic comment only confirms "my son's" decision not to continue on with ODP. I am sure his teamate with feel the same. I observed the tryouts for the 97's and know many who were there and we were shocked at the lack of talent. You are only fooling yourself if you think differently. Our son's were equally shocked and disappointed. I know there was also concerned internally about the low tryout turnouts. By your nasty and overly emotional comments aimed towards me, I can see that you are the one who is overly emotionally involved. I know of many others parents on the team especially on the 98's and they are not like you....but thank you for the confirmation! Our kids mimic our behavior so I hope yours is not contagious...you are not setting a good role model.

Anonymous said...

You are a touchy one. I hope your son doesn't mimic you.

Anonymous said...

I see you can dish it out but you can't take it. The truth is painful and you obviously know that you attacked me for no reason other than because I posted "our" personal experience....This is a Blog and and open forum. Who died and made you King thinking that anyone who posts a respectful post like I did allows you to "bully" those who feel differently or who may have had a different experience.It is obvious to me and now to others how uninformed you are. My son is intelligent, talented and kind-hearted just like me.....let's hope yours doesn't turn out to be a narrow minded cyber bully like you!

Anonymous said...

111 you are the one whose a bit off actually

Anonymous said...

no word of try-outs selectees yet? I thought the schedule sheet and the coach said try-outs results would be posted on 04/11. They just can't keep their word...same thing was on the first try-out. These ppl are so disorganized and I agree during tryouts they spent most of the time talking to each other instead of paying attention to the kids...At this point I not feeling not eager to have my kid selected...my son can make it to an academy team, but wanted to play high school soccer. But he is a serious player and this ODP program doesn't seem as such a serious organization so not a good option at this point. Very disappointed at their lack of word and professionalism....

Anonymous said...

After girls tryouts they had a meeting with all parents and players..were told tryout results will be posted by sunday and you should also get an email

Anonymous said...

they told the boys that it would be posted on Friday 04/11 and so says the website and paper schedule of events that they distributed to the kids on the second try-out...

Anonymous said...

Posted on their Facebook page if you would stop complaining and just look--

NJ Youth Soccer 2014 ODP State Team player candidates will be contacted by email no later than Sunday, April 13 at 5 p.m. and advised of their selection status.

Player numbers will also be posted by this time on our website,

http://njyouthsoccer.com/clubsite/?p=4751

Anonymous said...

Stop complaining and just look??? like where.... in Facebook??? Sorry I don't have Facebook, I don't have time for that. I did look however on their official website which is where any information should be posted...make sense??

Anonymous said...

No later than 5.

Anonymous said...

tomorrow maybe??

Anonymous said...

What a joke. They say 5pm and then they remove the 5pm from front page.

Anonymous said...

Nope...Nara...no Friday, no Sunday by 5pm...no nothing. Now is Sunday by midnight maybe? ? This organization needs to get organized !

Anonymous said...

Is why so many people say this odp thing is nothing but a joke. And they are so arrogant and demanding yet they can't even keep their word.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't brag about my kid going to South Africa, you know how they did there against soccer teams...

Anonymous said...

You are right. My kid is going to be a professional soccer player and make millions so why a trip to South Africa is important, I don't know. Really? Trip of a lifetime!

Anonymous said...

There is more to just winning games in youth soccer,even in competitive soccer. You must be a very narrow minded parent, hope your kid doesn't grow up as shallow as you, sir :)

Anonymous said...

NJYS, the only organization in the world that competes with themselves by setting deadlines that don't need to be set and then not meeting them.

Anonymous said...

Have to admit, that is their M.O. They've also said they'd make up practices cancelled due to weather, then never did.

Anonymous said...

My daughter was a shoe-in and did not get picked. Too bad for them, a blessing for us.

Anonymous said...

Why would you think that your daughter or anyone else for that matter was a shoe in? Clearly you are not happy that she was not chosen and you shouldn't be. So why a blessing?

Anonymous said...

a shoe in??? you're crazy...
if you think you know what the evaluators are looking for... you're crazy
I hope she wasnt on the young side, cuz like it or not it seems like they take the older, bigger girls that can play.
I dont know if you knew this but Carli Lloyd didnt make it the first few times...(I say that laughing because they stress that every point they can)
Hope you didnt relay your "Shoe in" thoughts on your little Mia...I'm sure she's crushed...the blessing is right tho...now you can rent a bungalow down the shore for a week with the money you'll save...be sure to try out again...you know Carli Lloyd didnt make it the first time...LOL

Anonymous said...

They had their roster set before any tryouts - it was obvious. The 'raters' were too busy talking to each other than taking notes... They were right in front of us, I observed barely a note taken in 2 tryouts.
Carli Lloyd didn't make it twice.. that and 5 bucks gets a latte at Starbucks... I would have liked my kid being chosen, but observing the way they operate, I was not going to pay the $2K + to them anyway. I can't imagine they'll get 100% of the parents of the kids they chose to pony that up. My Mia was not crushed at all, sometimes things work out for the best, there's no script for life.

Anonymous said...

Stop crying. The bottom line is your daughter was not good enough to make the team. You can say whatever you want to make yourself feel better, but if she was selected I'm sure you wouldn't have had a problem paying the $2K + to them.

They will have no problem getting the top 25 girls to play for them but unfortunately your daughter just wasn't good enough!!

Anonymous said...

Next time, just sign up to be a camp chaperone, this will guarantee your daughter a spot. ODP is a joke...

Anonymous said...

ODP has it's pitfalls, no doubt. Whenever there is a tryout there will be hurt feelings. Just because your daughter or son was not chosen does not mean they aren't good or better then someone on the team they selected. Maybe they didn't see what you see, maybe they didn't show well when it mattered, maybe it was a position number problem. Regardless they will all get cut at some point so they all need to learn how to handle rejection. It isn't the end of the world, learn from it and come back stronger next time. I am willing to bet that the kids that didn't make it are over it already, the parents NOT.

Anonymous said...

NJYS ODP at it again. Girls are CANCELED tonight due to rain yesterday. If they don't have a facility to conduct training sessions, they should just fold the program. $1700 for practices to be canceled due to rain the previous day is an absolute JOKE. It basically means that they dont care about the program.

If my daughter's club coach canceled due to rain the day before, we'd be finding a new team PRONTO!!!

And I was under the impression that the older girls were trainign on the soccer turf field. Is that wet too? UNREAL.

Anonymous said...

Legit question. ODP, any answer.

Anonymous said...

Your daughter made ODP, now you want training too?

Anonymous said...

Yeah silly me. Plus they only listed it out on the Website. Guess what? It has been sunny since 630 am. Why would anyone even check the website?

I did because I know the inherent incompetence of the organization as my son did ODP a few years ago.

I think they have everyone's email address. Send out a note before the folks from N. Jersey have to drive two hours to make a U turn.

Anonymous said...

They cancelled girls last evening. It was up on NJ ODP website last night & FB earlier today.

Wish they waited until today to make that call.....

Anonymous said...

Pay 100 less

Anonymous said...

Pretty pricey for bragging rights, mom and dad!