Saturday, December 5, 2015

ODP (Olympic Development Program) - Region I and Beyond

2015-2016 ODP: Comments, feedback, questions, friendlies, selection process and more.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hello, my child is on the ODP state team for '03 girls. Her teams just came out and I was wondering if the three teams are ranked by playing ability or are mixed up so all teams are equal. Thank you for your time.

Anonymous said...

What state are you in?

Anonymous said...

MD is tiered with A, B, and C teams for U13. Md has yet to practice so it may not be too friendly for them.

Anonymous said...

VA typically has balanced teams at U13

Anonymous said...

hELP!!!! I AM LOOKING FOR THE nj SCHEDULE FOR VIRGINIA FRIENDLIES. DOES ANYONE KNOW THE LINK?

Anonymous said...

not published yet, but it will be here when it is
http://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?EventID=51374

Anonymous said...

Virginia Friendlies schedule is now posted on Gotsoccer.

Anonymous said...

The 99" Boys did well in Virginia, won two games and tied one. Beat PA West 1-0, Beat NC 2-0 and tied Virginia 2-2. Nice job boys!

Anonymous said...

Can the person in charge of this forum please delete the non soccer comments.

Anonymous said...

Why did girls from PA play for NJ ODP at the VA friendlies ?

Anonymous said...

BREAKING: What does this new development mean for the future of ODP and ECNL?

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/02/23/14/48/160223-gda-us-soccer-to-launch-girls-development-academy-in-fall-of-2017

US Soccer just announced a development academy (DA) for girls U14 thru U19 to start in the Fall 2017. Participating teams would be scouted by US Soccer coaches for a pathway to youth WNTs, and NWSL Pro teams.

The program guidelines calls for training at least 4 days a week, and players cannot participate in alternate programs like ODP. So US Soccer and USYSA are going head to head with this new program it seems.

IMHO, I think this is a good thing as scouts can see elite players in their team environment, and take away the perception ODP has to only select most players based on whether they play on a club team also coached by an ODP coach. Maybe the NWSL teams can also field academy teams throughout the year which would help generate additional revenue for them and yet still have elite players exposed to national teams.

Any thoughts on the board on this new development?

Anonymous said...

DA will have little effect on ODP because so few players will be accepted into DA or reside close enough to DA to make attending training session four days a week a reasonable venture. I contend ODP is a more equitable platform than other ID programs because it is open to anyone, and does not require an invitation and does not exclude certain clubs. I have seen only a few instances where a player made ODP through a suspected club connection. With respect to why PA players played for NJ, they most likely play for NJ club teams. PA had players from other states. A player can cross state lines for ODP depending on state of residence and state of club affiliation.

manbehindthecurtain said...

I'm curious about some of the comments here regarding the ODP selection process, both at the state (MD) and regional levels.

My daughter participated in MD ODP for several years, and although she has now aged out, several of the coaches from her tenure remain. Although she never had the "benefit" of any coaches from her club participating in ODP, she made both the state and regional teams every year she tried out (except for her first year, when she tried out for an older team). Moreover, to my recollection, all of here club teammates who tried out made their respective age group state teams, and several made regional teams as well. On the whole, there girls were not the tallest, fastest, or strongest, but they were generally the most technically skilled and smartest players (in fact, the team drove opponents crazy for years because they didn't "look" like they should beat you, but they usually did!).

I say this not to toot any particular horn but to argue that in our experience with ODP over several years, soccer ability usually triumphed over raw athleticism in team selection. Regional team selection was a bit dicier, but mostly because there are many more viable options competing for spots up at URI, and it can be hard for some players to catch the staff's eye. But even when her teammates missed regional pool, it was usually hard to argue too strenuously with the choices the coaches made.

At the end of the day, the perception of "truth" in such matters as team selection is often in the eye of the beholder, colored often by preconceived notions or even misunderstandings of what "talent" actually is. During my coaching days (non-soccer), I rarely needed more than 30 minutes to whittle a tryout pool to a manageable number of, say, one-and-a-half times the size of the eventual roster. There were occasional second or third day surprises, but probably no more than three or four over fifteen years. As parents, we need to give the ODP coaches some credit for being good at what they do, acknowledging that they might know more than we do.

ODP has some flaws, and to be honest the level of MD ODP training was usually well below what my daughter experienced at her club team practices, but she made some good friends and had great opportunities to play in front of and train with college coaches at the regional and national training camps. Her state coaches encouraged her to try new things and advocated for her at regional camps. She even met her college coach through ODP, and most importantly, she had a great time in the program.

Anonymous said...

No doubt, ODP (MD) has been a been a very useful avenue for the better players to advance and be recognized in the past.

However, with the advent of ECNL, EDP, Region 1 Champions league, etc the better players and coaches are gravitating to those leagues and no longer even attempting to be involved with MD ODP. Hence MD ODP is now a second or third tier, if you will. Now with the US Soccer girls DA coming next year, this would cause further downplaying of the value in ODP.

Something has to give here, as there are a number of programs now jockeying for the best talent, where a small fraction of these programs are purely commercial ventures where the U12 and U13 groups subsidize the bulk of the profits.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is on the MD U13 ODP team and I noticed that a majority of the players are from the Baltimore area near the training. The few players from Montgomery County teams that I know play Pre-ECNL, Wags, and CCL. They have had only one practice, so I cannot really comment on the quality of the players/coaches yet. As for now I’m looking at it as extra training that she needs being her club team has just two trainings per week.

Anonymous said...

That is exactly how you should look at it. Dont worry of how she is being viewed vs the other players - just that the sessions are productive.