Everyone needs to be careful out there because Manager MK from Marlboro Warriors is poaching players. Just ask force about it
Poaching, here we go again. How is it that one poaches? If a player doesn't want to leave their current team then they wont leave, right? Outside looking in, if your accusation is true, it would seem like a good move for a player to go from a lowly ranked team to a highly ranked team. If the player is happy, isn't that what is important? Again, the player doesn't have to leave. I for one, just don't buy into the whole poaching thing.
Force? Of course people want to leave the force. Thanks for the heads up.
Howell Home Cooking!How can Howell sleep at night knowing they gave themselves a cakewalk into the finals? A depleted NJ Force, Ocean and Stronghold B team. The other side of the bracket has powerhouses Stronghold and Marlton along with NJX and Westfield.
Don't this Force is a cakewalk and depleted. Already beat DOL and tied Ironbound Milan. We will see what happens.
Wow those are some interesting flighting choices. I guess Howell has no one to blame but themselves if they don't get to the finals.
All these games were scrimmages. Coaches look and try different things. Wait for games to count.Parents will move teams as long as another coach tells them how great their kid is!!!
Everyone should still be at MAPS. Same teams, why not create flights and play MAPS. Because $$$.Now we have EDL within EDP and Champions League being created by these same folks. Why don't these clubs hire 2 or 3 folks to create and run a pro style league. ie: schedules, standings, relegations ....
I feel the other side to see who faces howell in the final will be between Marlton and Stronghold looking for a good tight match.
"Parents will move teams as long as another coach tells them how great their kid is!!!"Based on that statement I have a question for you. Why was that parent talking to a different coach in the first place? There was an issue in place to create that conversation.
Congrats to SSC falcon 7 who play for Gill St Bernards.. won high school prep B state champions
.....and in that bracket, congratulations to the two Ranger players that reached the state finals with their high school soccer team, West Orange! One more game boys, one more game.....good luck, you've made us very proud.
Howell tournament this weekend. SSC teams will be there in full force! Lets pick up where we left off.
NJX is not a weak opponent anymore. Recently tied Hudson and beat LVU. New and improved NJX.
NJX, you have to win games against good or great teams before you come on here and say you are much improved. Your GS page shows poor tourney results. That is your record. And beating LVU, a team that is about #30 in their state and during the high school season (who was there for LVU?) is not a qualifier for big boy consideration.Let your game speak. Come back here after you beat 5 really solid teams or win a league run or a choice tournament. You have a right to shout at the right time. You've been a dog for over a year. You don't become a thoroughbred by beating a #25 or earning a draw with another team that is also average. Your coaches should know this.
NJX really Improved when Marlton whoops you 4 0
Lost yes but beat #1 SSC
Agree it's just scrimmage and. Experimentation time as far as fall tournaments go. We will have to wait til spring season to see the real deal in teams.
Scrimmage my a$$. All played to win. No time to scrimmage when points and rankings are involved. NJX better through subtraction. Who left and you will see the difference
Set it up all you want Howell. Nice try
SSC falcons find way to win while jelling some of their new players.
SSC Falcons won U 15 and SSC Spartans won playing up at U 17, let the bashing begin.
No names or initials to keep with rules but who on NJX team left that would have mattered? Where did these players go and why as per the above is it addition by subtraction? This is an average to below average team but they do have a long ro$ter.
SSC Falcon 7 also won NJSIAA Non Public B state championship 2 - 0 over MKA last Mon at TCNJ.
Last team that bragged this much was NJX. Look where they are now. Well they did beat SSC Not sure what that means
Doesn't mean anything , as bottom line is SSC won the tournament.
Really? The NJX win meant nothing? Come on SSC, come out with an excuse at least. You didn't have your top 4 players, right? You showed up at halftime. Something please. Unless you are saying NJX can compete and beat you.
Drawing any conclusions from the Howler Cup is a waste of time. I watched a lot of shit soccer, on fields that were too small for the size of these boys, not to mention the hills in them. And Sunday topped it off with a freaking windstorm that had kids in hats, gloves, sweatpants, muk luks, ski jackets LOL. Kids couldnt do corners or free kicks becuase the ball wouldnt stay still. It started rolling as soon as you set it down. Waste of time.
NJX beat SSC Saturday not Sunday. Next excuse please
Why do you want an excuse from a team that won the tournament? You look like a fool, barking away at an opening game win, and then that team goes on to win the tournament as well as collect the silly got soccer points that NJX so desperately needs .
You said it yourself , NJX beat SSC on Saturday , not Sunday. Isn't Sunday when tournaments are won?
So any insiders know what is up with SSC Dynamo, they moved from a top 30 team all the way to 13, yet I watched them in the game they lost 6nil...based on that performance how did they get that ranking?To the folks beating down the falcons. They may have lost a battle but they won the war...I don't think U.S. National team will be beating their chests if they "beat" portugal, but don't advance out of the first round..seriously, any team can be beaten on any given day, but Falcons continue to win much more than they lose. I noticed they are playing at the U16 level next week, can anyone comment on the reason?
hmmm so out of curiousity , i looked up these feudin teams, stronghold falcons ranked # 1 in state, # 3 in region, # 7 in nation ( for whatever that's worth) holmdel njx is not even on first page of nj rankings, # 30 or so behind even another stronghold team, so it seems your boast is way out of wack.
You had to look that up? Why are you on a U15 board? NJX is NOT that good of a team, they just aren't. So how did they beat SSC? Did SSC have all their players? Did SSC not care? Did SSC play 3 men down? Were the magnificent 7 there?
Njx win Gives the boys a huge confidence and bragging rights for the next 2 years.
Confidence yes. Bragging rights, no way. Where is Mr. SSC? He usually has an answer.
yes njx beat ssc, give them kudos for that, no ssc did not have all their players, most of the magnificent 7 as you call them were not there, but not an excuse for the loss, ssc cared enough to bounce back and win the tournament,bragging rights for two years?, hardly, like posted above, in soccer any result can happen in any single contest, better to look at long term consistency and ssc falcons do seem to have that. even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, so enjoy your win.
Curious......why bragging rights for next two years?
To 7:54AM...Falcons are playing U16 so that a couple of the U16 Spartans can be seen at the showcase. The Spartans team as a whole isn't quality enough to play in the showcase at a high level bracket, therefore they will use the Falcons cache to play at a high bracket where 1 or 2 Spartans will have a better shot at being seen as well as the special 7.
SSC players 8-15, know where you stand.
SSC wasn't prepared for NJX. Poor coaching. SSC came back a little more prepared and won the tournament. Lesson learned don't any team for granted.
Come on njx a little luck,,, does not constitute a better coach...
NJX will show this weekend why they are back
You showed why you are back in the bottom bracket
Is that NJX in the 5th flight and already with a 4-1 loss and a draw. Must be time for another parent meeting to announce the new, newer, newest team direction.
Falcon 7 not ready for prime time. Didn't look good losing either
NJX playing in the 5th flight comes in 4th (last) place in their group and now plays the last place team from the other group in the conso game. No wins. Most goals against and mustered only 2 goals in two games while drawing the #35 team in the state 3-3.
Falcons outscored 9-0 in tournament. Amazing at this age,jumping up one age has such an impact. Falcons were as large as the teams they played. At least they gave it a shot.
Not much of a shot. They were outclassed
in a tournament like edp cup that has many divisions in an age group, how are the got soccer point values determined for each flight?
Other tournaments don't have any divisions in an age group? Points are still determined the same way, strength of the teams in it.
Some local EDP results:NY Hota 4-0 in the top flight! East meadow and Marlboro also had success in the top flight while Hudson scratched out a win and Marlton left with no victories at all.BOCA, perhaps flighted a bit too high had no wins and Howell had 1 win in the 3rd flight. NJF 1 win in the 4th flight and NJX 1 win in the 5th flight. Other then Marlboro and SJEB the NJ teams had a rough weekend.
First of all, the Falcon 7 as you call them were not all there. Second, nothing wrong with challenging the boys and playing up in a highly competitive u 16 group. Bash us all you want know, but this weekend gets us prepared to play the likes of you.
A might touchy aren't we 6:36. I was merely pointing out that the Falcons didn't show well against U16 and I was actually surprised that playing up would have that much of an impact , considering all the boys play against that age and older on Varsity and the fact that physically they are very close to same size as U16.
I would have bet money the top 3 u15 teams wouldn't be shut out in 4 straight games against u16. Never would have thought 1 year would make such a difference. Anyone else have comments?
The teams falcons played were not even top 10 teams and one ranked 20.
Just a bad weekend. I am sure they were missing key parts.
HS ball is totally behind club ball. Do not try to compare.A top u15 should compete against mid or bottom level u16... Not top u16 teams. Same mistake happens every year where parents think their child is soccer gifted. Keep on training
My sons team routinely plays (scrimmages) against top NJ U16 teams. They have not won them all and a majority of the time they tie or lose by a goal. NEVER have they lost by 3 or more goals. A mid level U16 team could hang with them but not for an entire game.
So SSC Super Seven, better known as the SSCSS, were the U16 Stronghold players that bad? Did they hold you back? It couldn't have been you (and I mean that), so what happened?
You people are retarded. Why the Hell does this conversation keep going? It is irrelevant and makes no sense.
Irrelevant how? SSC has been pounding their chests about their achievements and then decided to bring that bravado into the HS season. They upped the anti and played U16 stating that 7 Falcon players were needed to bring the U16 SSC team credibility. Then they got smoked. Someone asked why and now they disappear.
After looking at some of these EDP Cup scores I noticed that DOL might have been placed a few brackets too low. I heard they have half of team from Ironbound.Out of state teams dominated this age level. I seen some good soccer at this event. Congrats to all.
U15B Ocean Lightning did well in Bronze bracket at EDP Cup. 2 wins, a 1-0 loss to eventual winner of the bracket, and a tie in the 3rd place game. Good job boys.
2 wins a loss and a tie in the Bronze division?????? You Ocean people sure are funny. You did well in the MOSA Cup too I guess.
too be clear it wasn't 7 ssc falcons joining the spartans it was a couple of spartans joining the falcons. falcons got a beat down..it happens.go back to where you belong
Hey, the SSC Special 7 were not there in force either..so it was a couple of crappy u16's and a bunch of benchies playing...The real Falcons would have given the U16's what for!!I was told tonight that the Falcons will start to play U16 in parallel with their U15 schedule and they will be as successful at that level as they are at U15.
It has become clear that the SSC insiders don't think much of any of the players with the exception of a select few. Shame on them.
to 12/4 at 11:20. I don't know, DOL seems to have been at the right spot. They did have impressive wins over Holmdel and Wash Twshp, but a 0-0 tie and 1-0 in final. From what I saw, they looked to have 3-4 former IB players, but IB was not strong at all last year. So, it will be interesting to see how both clubs fair this year. Haven't seen what must be an updated version of IB yet. Will they improve through subtraction? Will DOL dramatically improve with these IB players? We'll see.
Impressive win over NJX and Washington Twp? When was the last time anyone said that
my point exactly.
The real insiders at SSC know the value of all the players we have in the U 15 age group. There is a reason we have over 50 players signed up on 3 maps teams and we experiment and have mobility via US club cards. watch and see what happens in the spring when it really counts. So bash all you want. We played up got our asses kicked and came away better players from a humbling learning experience. We don't have to be better than anyone, but only better than the U 15 team we play on that given day. we can't wait to play any of your U 15 teams this spring. Call us for a friendly, well be happy to play, then you can let your feet do the talking instead of your mouth.
Nice try putting down our 8-15 SSC players, hey maybe they'll go to your team? Fact is there is constant comp. for those coveted 8-15 spots, and players work hard for them. Later come spring state cups, coaching staff will decide the top 15-18 for state cup runs, and btw no guarantee that we'll win either, because it's hard to do and we know and respect the many good teams out there who could dethrone us. But this we can guarantee: We will give it our best shot and will play with class like we always do. The truely good U 15 teams out there know this and we have rivalries based on competitive respect. The wannabes get on here with some of our idiot parents ( yes , sadly every team/club has them )and foolishly jab and barb back and forth.....to prove what? So good luck to all NJ U 15 teams, especialy when you play out of state competition. We look fwd to seeing you on the playing fields soon.
the only thing that is clear is that you have an axe to grind with SSC. How can you possibly know how they feel about their players? You just want to stir up some trouble.
What happened was we got beat!plain and simple and no excuses, fielded the best team possible that weekend. it happens sometimes! we learn from it and move on, hopefully take it out on the likes of your team
no way 10:15 is a SSC insider, if you believe that, you are as much an idiot as him, falling for the oldest trick around, posting as if you from that team. Most of the SSC boasting is prob not their people anyway.
1:26 to 1:57 all SSC posts? Did you guys have a meeting? to 1:43, well put and I think everyone knows that SSC can lose but they are the team to beat.
SSC is a decent team but lets get down to earth and be real about some of these comments! Big kids and running soccer is an appropriate label for this team.How about the SDFC boys getting beaten in this new adventure. Out from the championship round already and it's just the beginning.Good luck for the rest of the season. See you in the spring.
SDFC out from the championship round. What do you mean?
yeah. what championship?
SDFC still in the top Disney bracket, not sure what you people are talking about. SDFC is fine, thanks for the support.
big kids and running soccer? for SSC falcons? hardly the label I would put on them. They at least try to play soccer.
Agreed. The dope that wrote that about the Falcons was clearly very wrong. The only team in the current top 10 (NJ) that plays that style is Howell. The other 9 attempt to pass it up the field and may take an attempt here and there at a long ball. Even at that you wont have Howell on this list much longer as Parsippany, Jersey Knights and DOL will move them out.
SDFC got placed in the top bracket just because they mixed the 'National League' teams regular schedule into this tournament!!! Don't know why... Another merger, maybehttp://tournaments.usyouthsoccer.org/events/2013-2014-National-League/Schedule/U15-Boys/Division+1/
Any of the top u 15 doing futsal and or indoor leagues/ tournaments this winter?
Good luck to SDFC at the Disney Tournament. Represent NJ well!!
SSC Falcons wish our respected rival SDFC good luck in their tournament!
Is there a link to the tournament? Are any other NJ or local to NJ teams participating?
The only other NJ Team in the u15 age group at Disney is Marlboro.
Anyone care to share their experience with the Exact Soccer camp in Philly last weekend? I'm thinking of signing the kid up for the next local one. Thanks
SJEB is also at Disney, as is YMS very local to Trenton.
Yes, YMS is playing in this tournament. Will be expecting a strong performance, they have trained hard and added key pieces.Good luck to all.
Key pieces? Please tell.
SDFC. Strong today
...another victory for SDFC today. Next game vs Penn Fusion. A lot of new talent.
So SDFC "developed" this talent?
Yes. And talent for Red Bulls and PDA!
Local teams seem to do well in Disney. SDFC great showing. YMS and Marlboro good news is you tied for first but in a competitive bracket also tied for last as all teams went 1-1-1. SJE barons. Has a tough week but ate very capable and will bounce back Overall a good showing for nj in a national tournament
Hold on. I don't believe anyone is saying that SDFC isn't a great team but how can you lose players to RB and PDA, bring in new players and still say you developed them?
Just a SDFC "new talent" Dad self-promoting that his kid is on the team now.
NJX's loss is SDFC's gain I suppose.
Come out and brag when you lose 7-0.
Who lost 7-0
What team? What tournament? Did your team win?
Folks, SDFC is just fine. Please don't worry about us and we will take care of our own business. Good luck with your future matches.
Has anyone looked at the EDP flights for the spring season? I saw a couple of teams may have been flighted in 2 rather then 1 but in the grand scheme of things isn't that almost better for them (if point matter). It is better to play in the second flight and get 7k points for winning.
yes. look at Hudson United for instance. they got 7k and haven't done anything since--but are still like #4 in the state.
No it's not better. Good coaches want to play the better teams, if otherwise then he should leave. Players, parents and coaches that can not compete at the top and refuse to challenge those standards are under achievers.
Does anyone have the Manhattan Kick off classic applied teams list?
Not posted to this point
Spring is coming, I hope. Soccer matches will begin shortly. Does anyone have any predictions on the EDP standings and what they will look like at the end of the season.
Jefferson Cup Bracketshttp://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=32802&Group=Boys_15
Which is stronger, Jefferson or Annandale?
Any idea of EDP STANDINGS?
EDP Standings? What do you mean, what are you looking for?
who is ssc or any of these other clubs on here? never heard of any of them.
You may want to find a site for bad teams then
Any preseason top 10 predictions, state cup champions final 4
without knowing the registered teams it isn't a perfect science but it will come down to any one of these teams.SSC, Marlton, SDFC, Morris, Marlboro, Barons, and Howell.SSC and SDFC have to be the favorites but SSC may not have their top players as they now play for both Red Bulls and SSC. Howell really shouldn't have a chance but they seem to always get there. No one else really has a chance, yes that means you Hudson and you too Parsippany.
Nj top 10 crystall ball
EZ pick, Falcons!
Flighting the Manhattan tournament will not be a simple task. Anyone have any projections?
No SSC in Manhattan, so the top team is not going. Says it all.
To the previous poster, Howell does do well in the State Cup competitions and has added a few new weapons. Don't rule them out.
Weapons, huh? Silly.
Always seems to come back to Howell or Stronghold. Two different level teams but both still good.
At this age to make a move to a team like Howell the player(s) must come from a lower level team. That doesn't mean they cant compete but it does mean they are not used to it.
You just don't know who Howell added, or you wouldn't be saying that. We will all see in the end.
Howell. Ha. Half soccer half basketball. Good players yes soccer well no.
Ok since you know, how many Howell kids play basketball. Not a lot at all
Looks like the Manhattan tournament may not go off as planned due to snow covered fields.
Anyone know when the Maps schedules come out?
Any picks for the top bracket in Manhattan... Brackets just came out take a look.https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=33873&Gender=Boys&Age=15
Manhattan is not for two weeks. Above poster, you really think this will be an issue by that time? Anyone have more experience with Manhattan and what might be expected in that regard? Hope all is taken care of by then.
Yes I do above poster. Yes I do
Looking at the brackets, I think you have to take the top 3 as very good. Not much of a difference between Platinum and Elite and Gold is solid. Platinum- Hoyta and HBC are the favorites, with Marlton and Herndon in over their heads.Elite- Manhattan Premier seems to be the weak link, but any other team can win this.Gold--Downtown white and Auburndale are the favorites with Princeton and Blackwatch as big underdogs.
Marlton is not "in over their heads". They will compete very well.
Agree watching some games Marlton played against our team last year they show a lot of improvement and are very talented.. The goalie is good the defense is solid as long with the midfield and their stricker is a great player they controlled the games against my sons team in a past tournament in the winter/fall season
State cup promises to be interesting. When will draw be posted?
NJX Flounders change coaches and trainers and losing players. This team is like Benjamin Button heading back to baby time.
Why worry or talk about NJX? What did they ever do to you?
ssc and sdfc at Dts tourney this coming weekend
Nothing more then a glorified scrimmage fest. Which of the two clubs has a knucklehead promoting this.
What did NJX do? I remember during their "Glory Year" many of their parents acting like complete rectal orifices during and after games. That baton was then handed to SDFC but I don't know if those classless parents moved over from NJX or if they were homegrown.Parents, if your team appears to be disliked on this forum, you have as much or more to do with that than your kid.
I have not heard a problem with SDFC parents, what are you talking about.
SDFC has players that come into the team as well as exit the team. There is nothing wrong for young soccer teens to experiment with different teams. As a matter of fact I think it is a good thing for them to experiment with different coaches, different team players, etc. It only challenges their ability to adapt.Folks, if your son wants to become a soccer player then you better learned to have "relationships" with coaches and clubs that build them.
Well said. Amazing how small minded so many people are. Encourage your kid to be on the best team possible, but don't jump ship every time something else comes up. Actually have meaningful conversations with your coaches. Meet with them, talk with them. Most really do care about your kid's long term success, even if that means possibly not playing on their team.
NJ Cup, SDFC and SSC are in the semi finals, no one on their side of the bracket is in the same league. Marlton has an ez path until they meet up with SJEB. Howell, Marlboro, Hudson in the same group, only one can come out.
Parsippany can beat SDFC, not a favorite to do so but they can.
Sdfc and SSC in one semifinal with the other being Marlton vs Marlboro.. My predictions SSC VS MARLTON with SSC winning 2 1
I agree with SDFC VS SSC with SSC with SSC winning 2 0 but i see Marlton vs Howell in the semifinals with Marlton winning 2 1 and in the finals SSC VS Marlton with SSC WINNING IN SHOOTOUT!!
Ok marlton thanks for checking in. Now back to practice
.....better predictions next time folks as the tournament has been cancelled.
Manhattan tourn looks to be a go
Any reason why the Manhattan game brackets have been taken down?
There most likely were some scheduling conflicts that needed to be resolved resulting in some scheduling changes. Once those are worked out the updated schedules will be put back up. This kind of stuff happens a lot.
SSC wins v Marlton! In a SHOOTOUT! That's so awesome.
Not from SSC or Marlton, but explain to me why that would not be a possible final game. In fact it looks like the most logical matchup based on past results.
Got soccer rankings..Marlton 1 in the state
Not trying to debate whether Marlton is a great team or not, but they did play in 13 tournaments in 2013. 13! None of them really earned them a lot of points but they grabbed 1700 here and 1400 there, play in 13 tournaments and there you go.
ROFL...gotsoccer rankings...that's cute.
While Marlton played 13 tournaments in 2013 the other top teams played inSSC 9SJEB 7Hudson 7SDFC 5Marlboro 6Morris 7Howell 5Proof that you can buy your #1 ranking. Now it is up to you Marlton to prove you earned it, just by staying there.
So your saying Marlton is bad?
Is that really what you think 10:31 is saying? It looks like Marlton plays in 30 to 60% more tournaments a year which would result in more points. Does that mean they are the best team in NJ or does that mean they have the most points in NJ due to the overload of tournaments?
Tournaments probably give Gotsoccer a cut of $. Majority of those tournaments should not result in any points. Not saying they shouldn't be offered, because teams should be able to have the tournament experience. But many of them shouldn't result in any points and are being gamed for Gotsoccer points by average teams.
What a couple of whining idiots. So now we're saying that Marlton did well in tournaments and got points, but that does not make them a good team? I think I've now seen it all. Keep in mind they would have gotten even more points from those tournaments if they were less highly ranked. Every idiot on here knows that the higher level you are going into a tournament the fewer points you get even when you win, get to finals or whatever. Looks to me like Marlton won a few tournaments over the last year or so also. I can't believe someone actually took the time to count the number of tournaments all these teams were in in order to "prove" that Marlton is not a good team. There are very good teams in NJ and Marlton has worked their asses off to accomplish something. You sound like a jealous idiot. Marlton also knows enough to know that points come and go, expire, etc. and that will happen to them as well. Whether or not it lasts, let them have their moment. They are a very good team. Wonder how well you know the players and the coach and what they have been working to build? The name of the game is to be present and put yourselves out there. Sounds to me like Marlton has come a long way over the last two years, so accept it. And yes, before you ask, I am a Marlton parent. Can't wait to play your son's team.
Mr. Marlton, if you don't see that by playing in more tournament you will earn more points will then there is no reasoning with you. I don't think anyone said that Marlton was not a good team please correct me if I am wrong. Why would you call the poster names such as jealous and idiot when from what I can see all they did was point out the facts. Looks to me like Marlton is taking the Hudson path.
10:56 maybe you're the idiot that posted that Marlton is #1 based on Gotsoccer. They're not #1 and everyone knows that. So looks like Gotsoccer rankings and you are the idiots.
Relax, Marlton is a very good team. #1, #5 who knows, but they are a very good team. I too look forward to the days that our sons teams play one another, they will be good games to watch. You see, you will not be playing Dad, your son will. Cheer on your team, that is your right, but don't be a jerk.
You're right. Enjoy the game.
You guys are missing the point. What I am saying is that it is funny and ridiculous that someone went and analysized all of the tournaments participation percentages for all of the teams to "prove" something. Of course points come and go overnight. Does anyone think for a minute that I think SSC for example is less of a team since points gained a year ago just expired? Points drop easily but you have to work real hard to gain them and have success, and that is what Marlton has done, like it or not. Do I think the top 5 teams are all really good, of course I do. Can anyone off those teams beat any one of them on any given day, yes. Do I think Marlton is literally the best team in the state? Probably not and never said they were...
Hope your defense can back peddle that well.
Before marlton can claim top dog in the state.. They first have to get past howell and Marlboro which in prior years state cup tournaments have failed..if you can get past them, then you have a chance at SDFC and SSC still top 2 teams in the state.. Marlton has to improve their offense and get away from a being a one trick pony.. They have a good fast striker but not enough against the top teams.Good luck to all teams in state cup.
Irondbound Milan will surprise you kick and run teams. And you know who you are. Teams that push the panic button after the Manhattan tourn...ha sorry no points to earn!!
One trick pony? Not sure what team your watching. Of course u won't believe me but I'm not from Marlton. Not sure where ur reading Marlton claimed anything. The guy was just commenting on the analysis done about the tournament participation and success. Chill out bud.
MR. Marlton please enlighten us as to additions or improvements You have added to the team that will help you get past howell and Marlboro
Why are you bringing up Howell and Marlboro? I don't understand.
Marlton is a good team and they should be in the top of the state...I dont understand the Marlboro or Howell sentendce as Marlton has beaten both of those teams the past times they matched up against each other. Good luck to all teams this years
we'll see about ironbound. I was ready to write them off as they seemed on a steep decline and then lost players I heard. Saw them playing indoors though and, it's hard to judge much from indoors but they looked much better than I expected--good intensity and ball movement. Just one game I saw though.
Forget Howell and Marlboro and worry about South Jersey Elite, they will be the first test. Does anyone know when the NJYS state cup draws are?
That was fast, Marlton is now number 5 in the state. Hope you took a snapshot of that fleeting #1 ranking. SSC is now #1, and rightfully so.
As an old timer that has gone through this with all 4 of my kids...First,Let's not get crazy with "gotsoccer" rankings.Second,Lets be honest...If your not an real academy we are all second tier (including my son's team...no shame).If you are a "so called academy" you are a just a club team and if you are a team that has the name of your town in to you are just that a good town team...and before we get "on any given day" responses...a real academy will beat your team 100% of the time.
In the grand scheme of things you have some valid points, but you are also wrong. No such thing as a so called academy, no buys into that BS. If you look at the top teams they are all more regional teams. SSC, SDFC, Marlton, Marlboro, SJE, all regional teams. Impossible to have a true town team and be competitive. Would RB beat them? They better or what a waste that would be. Would the other "true" academies beat them over 50% of the time (NJSA, PDA, MF)? Maybe, but maybe not, and that isn't winning one out of 10. Don't over value your academy team as they have scrimmaged some of the teams mentioned above. The academies wont advertise those results however. Again, you are more towards the correct then you are wrong but not by much.
Drinking the Academy Kool-Aide....
nope...not drinking academy koolaide at all. none of my kids were not academy kids, just not good enough. Thats a fact. If I dont go 100% of the time I will give you academies will will 98% of the time. from the standpoint of what the academy potentially offers (College recruit exposure etc.) the pool of soccer only dedicated kids is greater, to be chosen to make the squad, to be a starter you will truely be one of the top talented kids in the area. add that with facilities, coaching, playing top tourneys against top comp it just makes these kids better (IQ, physically, speed of play)...its what the academy system is supposed to do...dont hate on it. If you are good enough to make it, you would be bathing in it too...or drinking the koolaide as you say...look no further that Kyle Gurreri (sp?) from NJ. Played PDA, RBNY, even Philly Union. He's trainined with top EPL teams and is supposedly waiting to turn 16 to get a contract to play. The system works...
Facilities? Are you serious, now I know you don't know what you are talking about. 2 out of 4 NJ academies have facilities. Still not better then my home town facility. Of course they are talented players, I hope no one is saying they are not but they just aren't that much better. My son could play on an academy team if he chose too, maybe not RB. True, they do have greater visibility but I also know that 1 kid in NJ MIGHT go pro (not my kid) so there goes that plus. Yes college coaches will find them, but most of these kids will stop playing college soccer after their freshman year (do the research).
So having your own field at your disposal is not an advantage?Not better than your home town facility that you have to share with countless levels of youth and teen soccer, boys and girls and if youre lucky the field doesnt have to be shared with lacross or american football. PDA turf fields are plowed and open. RBNY have a full sized turf field in Carlstadt, WCFC turf fields are plowed and open, NJSA has Tab's indoor bubble in Matawan...not sure about MF, also most academies are practicing 3 times a week without fail. How many times is your sons team practicing? I have no illusions about my boys, but to think..."My son could play on an academy team if he chose too" youre just looking through daddy glasses...just by putting (do the research)does not bait me into thinking that you have. No one is talking about the success/fail rate of a college player. It all started in people boasting about useless rankings and that honestly you cant discount academies like they dont exist. SDFC had a long run at tops in the state and in the nation...which is unbelievable, and my sons team lost to them handily and reguarly, but i know that they are no where near tops when you include the academies (not only in NJ).
first of all, USDA teams are birt year just like ODP, these are club teams from Aug - July cutoff, so any comparison is useless. Second, where do you think Redbull, Union, etc get their players? from good teams like SDFC, SSC, Downtown, Beachside and other top tier EDP teams. Hats off to the very clubs you put down. They are the feeders to the academies.
So by your own logic its like saying the staten island yankees are one of the top baseball teams in the area...you can not discount the big team in the bronx. so just to go back to the ealier post that I believe started this."That was fast, Marlton is now number 5 in the state. Hope you took a snapshot of that fleeting #1 ranking. SSC is now #1, and rightfully so." You cant say that with such certainty without looking at the bigger clubs that couldn't care less about gotsoccer points.
BTW, I am not putting down any club or level of play. I have be degraded my son's team through out this blog convo...I just think some people need to be more humble with their success.
To say that A player on any team CANT play on an academy team is plain ignorant. Maybe not your son as you said, but there are plenty. Do you have multiple children and have an advantage of seeing both academy and non? If you did you would know the truth. Keep believing what you want, and Peter Pan is real too.
enough of this please, it will never end. Lets talk about the Maps Spring Challenge, will it be played?
not the above poster but to think that anyone could join an academy is more ignorant that the original poster. These academys are elite for a reason. I guess your so happy with your team that your boy never tried out...guess what...your little beckham probably wouldnt make it.
4:12, let me understand you. You are saying that all players currently on an academy team are better than every player currently not on an academy team? If so, you are a fool. I would and could go further but you just don't get it.
So, you don't know of any players that don't play at an academy because they also want to play HS ball. I can name multiple current academy players who are not better then multiple non academy players at this moment. It is a choice, and each family has to make it. True, the academy team is a pure soccer team but maybe that isn't what everyone wants. Just because they play soccer 3x a week at an academy doesn't make them a better player.
pretty sure if you practice anything 3 times a week at a high level you will be better than a high level player that practices once a week.
Who practices once a week?
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