Wednesday, April 1, 2015

U16B - Competition is thick, diverse and talented

What can we say? This age bracket attracts a lot of attention and several teams have very different rosters going into Fall 2014.

Better than ever.

Region 1 at this age bracket offers a lot of talent at the top of the rankings.
U16 Boys soccer is where the action is.

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Anonymous said...

lol we'll see in the spring buddy

Anonymous said...

Who said SDFC was the team to beat nationally? I dont see that anywhere. Comprehension skills anyone?

Anonymous said...

Dec 15 8.34
No one likes a braggart.

Anonymous said...

i dont see anyone bragging, please show me where this occurred. Tough to be on top SDFC, people make S up.

Anonymous said...

SDFC did beat both current National Champions this month

USYS National Champions lost to SDFC 3-2 in National league play this past week in NC.

USCLub National Champions SSC lost to SDFC 3-2 earlier this month at the EDP Cup.

Nice Job SDFC. We look forward to playing you in the spring.

Anonymous said...

Who are those teams?

Anonymous said...

Current USYS National Champion is Pateadores from Southern California.

Anonymous said...

Wow, SDFC must be amazing. My sons team will not play them ever but I hope to be able to catch a game down in Hammonton in the spring.

Anonymous said...

Just reading this months comments. It appears that there are instigators on here starting fights. My son playsbfor SJEB and I was at the EDP cup games. I have to say that SSC and SDFC were clearly the best two teams. Hota got mowed down again by NJ. As for the SSC/SDFC game. SDFC got a fake foul and a PK goal. Any team would take the goal and players flopping in the box all the way up to the pros is normal. However SDFC had a hand ball in their own box and the ref said play on and didn't give SSC the PK. Unfair but part of the game. SSC was controlling the tempo of the entire game and should have won. However it wasn't their day and it is what it is. Any giving day either of those two teams can win. What I was surprised about was to see all the parents positively chatting with each bother and the boys are all friends with each other. There is no hatred between both teams.. It's all made up on this blog.

Anyway SJEB will continue to be at the top and I predict a 1st or second place win in both state cups. Good luck to all and keep it fun for the boys.

Anonymous said...

Just reading this months comments. It appears that there are instigators on here starting fights. My son playsbfor SJEB and I was at the EDP cup games. I have to say that SSC and SDFC were clearly the best two teams. Hota got mowed down again by NJ. As for the SSC/SDFC game. SDFC got a fake foul and a PK goal. Any team would take the goal and players flopping in the box all the way up to the pros is normal. However SDFC had a hand ball in their own box and the ref said play on and didn't give SSC the PK. Unfair but part of the game. SSC was controlling the tempo of the entire game and should have won. However it wasn't their day and it is what it is. Any giving day either of those two teams can win. What I was surprised about was to see all the parents positively chatting with each bother and the boys are all friends with each other. There is no hatred between both teams.. It's all made up on this blog.

Anyway SJEB will continue to be at the top and I predict a 1st or second place win in both state cups. Good luck to all and keep it fun for the boys.

Anonymous said...

1:03, I didnt believe you the first time and since you posted it twice I had the chance to not believe you again.

Anonymous said...

All friends? No jealousy? Polite in person but plenty of back stabbing when you're not looking.
Parents are worse than the kids.

Anonymous said...

SJEB parent chose to watch SSC rather than watch their own son who played at the same time? Interesting

Anonymous said...

If SDFC and SSC are such fantastic teams, why haven''t they been given academy status?

Anonymous said...

11:23 the reason why they dont recieve academy status is because you have to have a few facilities, home fields.. etc.

Anonymous said...

That is only part of the reason. NJSA has facilities? NJ had too many academies as it was, see the exit of MF. Fact is you will never know if they can play with or beat an academy team because the academies will never play such a game.

Anonymous said...

I heard that NJCSA don't have their own facilities and their going to lose academy status, Cedar Stars is taking their place. The academy system doesn't make a lot of sense.
All the teams in it are supposed to be top quality but top club teams are just as good as many academy teams.

Anonymous said...

How does that not make sense. It is like the rest of the world, it is who you know.

Anonymous said...

And money talks. LOL! Cedar Stars bought NJSA even though the club is 3 yrs, old,

Anonymous said...

They bought academy status. What does that tell you.

Anonymous said...

If SDFC and SSC are so good and as good as academy teams then why do they take the players cut from academy teams

Anonymous said...

8:00pm ....that's a low blow. What do you care where players come from?....clubs are not prejudice as to what clubs you've played before. So what is your point?

Anonymous said...

How was that a low blow? The conversation was is SDFC or SSC better or as good as academy teams. The person wrote that if they were as good why would they take players that were cut from academy teams. I think he meant that if they could take players they cut then how much better are the players that they retained.

Anonymous said...

SSC and SDFC aren't as good as all academy teams. I don't think anyone can argue that Red Bulls and PDA are outstanding academy teams. The top half of academy, very good. the bottom half, probably no better than top club teams.

Anonymous said...

I think teams like Marlton are as good as some academy teams. Without having seen both you would not know, but in my case I have. Just to put some perspective in.

Anonymous said...

It is idiotic to compare club and academy teams simply because of birth year roster for academy and Aug 1 cutoff for club. Who would SDFC play ? 98 or 99? pointless

Anonymous said...

Congrats to marlton for earning the right to play in region 1 champions league.

Anonymous said...

....good luck SDFC boys. Represent us well in Disney this weekend

Anonymous said...

great to see sdfc doing so well with about 1/3 of roster made up of former Ironbound/DOL players!

Anonymous said...

So what is it you are trying to say, exactly? SDFC needed new players? IB and DOL players are the best? IB and DOL cant retain players? What?

Anonymous said...

It's great that sdfc is doing well. They're all NJ boys. What SDFC implies and what they have said in the past is that they have developed all their players from an early age. This is simply not true for their club or any other club. Players move around.

Anonymous said...

Interesting, so who from Newark is looking to take this credit.

Anonymous said...

Stronghold way to represent

Anonymous said...

Congrats to SDFC for winning their group at Disney. Great showing by the boys. Shout out to their coaches and last but not the least- the parents. We have to sacrifice a lot as parents. Great to have them playing EDP, we should have excellent competition in the 1st division central. We should all be happy that a NJ team is doing this great at this level.

Anonymous said...

Good effort SSC. Better luck next time.

Anonymous said...

HOTA is where it will be this spring. Remember HOTA NJ.

Anonymous said...

Congrats SDFC, job well done. For those teams that have asked if they could compete with the top NJ teams (Flemington, DOL,) the answer is no. Sorry, it is a completely different level all together.

Anonymous said...

I would like to add my opinion on developing players in NJ. To see SDFC perform their very best against Some of the very best teams of the West and South on this Disney Tournament, something must have happened. Besides the team comraridy, the coaching, the individual skills of each player, the new players signed, the main thing is all year round training. Many clubs cannot afford a dome or indoor training during the "off season" and this, I believe is detrimental. I understand the cost involved may be high, but it is worth it. Again, my opinion is that many clubs in this state have to find a way to address this issue, so more kids and clubs could compete at a higher standards...any thoughts?

Anonymous said...

Aren't SDFC players playing high school soccer? How are they getting year round training? Playing in high school doesn't do much for development. Maybe SDFC should apply for academy.

Anonymous said...

Yes you are all going pro.

Anonymous said...

excellent result for sdfc. but i don't think it's so much year round training as much as a good mix of recruiting/attracting polished players to high caliber coaching in an organization that has the financial ability to travel to and afford the very top/high point value tournaments. can't really fault the formula, even if resources are perhaps biggest part of the mix. clearly there is very successful training, preparation, and competition going on. maybe the point here is that there are maybe dozens of players in area as talented as most of rangers roster who just won't have the access to the level of showcases sdfc does. have to admit that youth soccer in comparison to say basketball, is still mainly a pay to play sport--in terms of advancing from youth level into top college programs. once again, not criticizing programs like sdfc at all. more of an observation about the system.

Anonymous said...

Excellent comment. Agree 100%. Financial reasons are why I don't agree with anyone who says that no team can compete with the highest ranked teams. There are plenty of excellent teams who cannot afford to go to the top tournaments, Rankings are just a guide. not a guarantee. Tell anyone in another country what you are paying for your soccer experience. They will respond with disbelief.

Anonymous said...

Ok name that team

Anonymous said...

last comment is kind of irrelevant if you pay careful attention to what two posters ago stated because you really can't just name a team now from lower in the rankings that could compete RIGHT NOW with say SDFC. The point being that there is an institutional/financial structure in place that keeps this from happening because you basically have a field of teams made up of wealthy and not so wealthy--and the wealth build upon and create success by having the means to spend. so the rankings are both real and fabricated. they matter because they do actually reflect a difference in the level of play between the very top and the rest, but that gap is created by factors other than talent. These teams like sdfc are talented though. not saying they aren't. it's just that they maximize their talent in a way that many other teams cannot, due to the finanacial gap (not only between clubs, but between parents as well--and this is crucial). yes, the wealthy clubs often offer a scholarship or two, but the socio-economic differences largely persist and definitely correspond to the rankings (for the most part).

Anonymous said...

That is total BS. Forget the points and play them

Anonymous said...

what does that mean? how can points be forgotten and what do you mean "just play them"? Points can't be forgotten because they determine how teams are flighted in leagues and tourneys. Higher point values build on themselves though, because once you have enough points, you are able to keep accruing them at much higher rates than lower ranked teams. I think that is the point of all of this discussion--that this system rewards those who can pay enough (understanding that the talent has to basically be there as well) to keep feeding the ranking system. Guess its the best system we have for now, but it isn't actually a great measure of talent and potential. but its very American.

Anonymous said...

I agree with comments that money plays a factor in helping a team succeed. More money, better trainers, better facilities, top of the line tournaments and etc...

Anonymous said...

If money is the variable than I can assume that teams in NJ without winter facilities will not compete at such events? ....I guess it makes sense.
On the topic of points, you have to have some sort of objective measurement in order to categorize success.
...and as far as financial difficulty for some players, it is sad to see some are left behind. Definitely, a boring, but interesting topic of USA Soccer development.

Anonymous said...

I agree that you need objective measure--and points might be best way of doing this. I guess problem is that points can be kind of bought. But teams do also get points for league play. so it is possible for teams like Hudson a year or so ago, or DOL more recently, to move up in rankings. But it seems they can only get so far, or only stay up for so long. Not like perennials such as sdfc, stronghold, etc. don't know what better system would be though . . .

Anonymous said...

Fools. SDFC and other top teams are playing the best if the best. To get any points at all they must win the tournament. To win such a tournament proves how good they really are. DOL and other such teams have a much easier task in gaining points against inferior teams.

Anonymous said...

DOL is one example of an excellent team that does not travel to any out of state tournaments(except Delco). I think they would be competitive with any higher ranked teams. Didn't some of their players just join SDFC? Probably the players wanted more exposure through national tournaments but is their new team a lot better?

Anonymous said...

i don't think anyone is trying to argue that sdfc and other top ranked teams are not very very good. the point i hear and that seems to make sense is that there are many talented players and teams that will never get the exposure due primarily to $--and that is something that differentiates youth soccer from youth basketball and football (as well as track--not sure about baseball). maybe one downside of high school soccer not being important/competitive for the most part. the fact that college recruiting is done almost exclusively through the tournament system is a major factor in all of this.

Anonymous said...

I would like to ask what opinions people on this discussion have of D1 college soccer. I've been watching and have to say that (not to be a jerk, but) I'm really not so impressed. It's not a measurable step up from what I see in U16 now besides the athleticism and speed. Of course it's a step up in certain ways but from what I see, I'm left with the impression that much recruiting is done on basis of physicality/speed rather than intangibles like vision, creativity, and finer technical skills. I haven't seen enough to feel like this impression is exactly right, but what do other people think about this? and how might it relate to this whole discussion about ranking top tier club teams--since presumably this is where a good deal of D1 players are coming from (I know academy players are heavily in the mix too though).

Anonymous said...

Size my friend. Size. And yes some lower mid level teams have a player or two just not 15 of them

Anonymous said...

I have watched a few D1 college games. (Rutgers U). What stood out to me right away was the size of the players. In my opinion, the main things college coaches want are size and speed.

Anonymous said...

Bingo They take size over skill any day

Anonymous said...

...no matter how we slice this, it seems that size, speed, and athletic ability reigns over vision, creativity and fine technical skills in many coaches eyes. We see this in the national team at the present time. Compare the 1994 national team vs todays national team.
College coaches seem to be a just step above high school coaches?

Anonymous said...

Forget speed. Size is primary

Anonymous said...

Yes, and we see how size hurt the German team in the world cup. Such generalizations. Wake up. Look at the athletes in any sport (except jockeys) from 20-30 years ago and now. They are all bigger, faster, more athletic. Why wouldn't that be the case for soccer? And there isn't any argument that size is more important than skill - just that size AND skill is preferable over skill and no size or strength. There will always be the Messi, Arguerro, Teves, etc in the sport. But they will become more and more confined to being up forward. Except in the US - for some reason all the players on the U17 through U20 teams are the size of Tab Ramos. Wonder why. LOL.

Anonymous said...

SSC is consistently mentioned as one of NJ's top teams. Placed last in their bracket. Why such a poor showing at Disney? Lost one of their games 6-0.

Anonymous said...

Apparently SSC just had a bad outing.

Anonymous said...

Yes tab knows less than you.

Anonymous said...

6-0?? SSC care to explain? I am very surprised at this score.

Anonymous said...

Well it was 5-0 and then the other team scored again. Relax, it happens. They don't owe you an explanation. Kids get down a few goals and their heads drop and boom. Not an SSC person, looking forward to competing with them this Spring.

Anonymous said...

The level of competition at these events is superb. 40-minutes of soccer (they were 1-0 down at half time) doesn't define where SSC are if you look at their other results from the tournament.

Qualification for tournaments like Disney is success in itself and the players will have been seen by college coaches who dont look at the scoreboard.

Anonymous said...

Couple of bad calls, couple of bad plays and there you have it. If you think it is who we are you will have time to show us soon enough.

Anonymous said...

Stronghold losing because of bad calls? Anyone not surprised by that?

Anonymous said...

Totally expected it.

Every time SSC has a bad outing there were bad calls made.

It is never we did not play well. It is never we were overmatched. It is never we were outplayed.

It is always bad calls by the ref against us.

Anonymous said...

Really? Where do you see that in the past? I don't feel this to be true.

Anonymous said...

C'mon. Are you serious. You must be new to this forum.

Anonymous said...

The Champions League groups are out. Why is Marlton in the lowest group?

Anonymous said...

Lol. The lowest group of the best teams. Put it into perspective

Anonymous said...

Seem to remember something about a missed handball call against SDFC a month or so ago.....just sayin

But seriously, 6-0 games happen sometimes to any teams, SSC will be fine, just had a disappointing tournament.

Anonymous said...

No, one match. Maybe the best that could have happened as some now believe that they now have a legit shot.

Anonymous said...

...loosing by many goals does not mean much. Let us say it was a bad day. Remember, last year SDFC lost 7 0 on their first match in Disney. Now, loosing consistently by large score difference could be detrimental.

Anonymous said...

LAST year SDFC was a much different team. LAST year does not matter. It was a nice rebuttal by SSC however to get the heat off of them.

Anonymous said...

Champions league? What is that?

Anonymous said...

what do you mean last year does not matter, you still lost 7-0. It is still a lost by SDFC.

Anonymous said...

SSC are you a different team now then you were this time last year? Different players? Different growth? If you are, then you know that last year was different and no longer matters.

Anonymous said...

In 3 months time, all the teams will be different. Same players, but the level of performance will depend on how hard each team is working now. What's happened last year or even last week has no bearing on the results of the spring. It just has an impact on the all so precious rankings.

SDFC in recent performances have set themselves away from the pack a little, but there's a lot of teams in Jersey that could beat them on any given day and that's what makes this sport so great.

Between SDFC, STA, Match Fit, SSC, Marlboro, SJEB etc there's a lot of great soccer going to be played

Anonymous said...

Agreed, but one omission. Marlton.

Anonymous said...

You make a good point, but at this time based on the current SDFC roster you have to admit that this team is more then just a bit away from the pack. The team as set today is stronger and lasts years roster was very strong to begin with.

Anonymous said...

Would not most teams feel that way? Unless your team lost many players most coaches go into the new season with revived hope. I am glad these teams are having the success they are but lets not go over the top.

Anonymous said...

Staying humble is not something that comes easy but everyone should try to keep their feet on the ground. No team is perfect.

Anonymous said...

Correct that no team is perfect but show me a weak spot on SDFC. That is the reason for the recent success. Really a well put together group.

Anonymous said...

So are you saying their perfect?
Bravo!!! They will not lose a single game all season. Give us a break! They're only a human team, not a supernatural one.

Anonymous said...

What part of "no team is perfect" would make you think I was saying they are perfect?

Anonymous said...

Can't show you a weak spot now but maybe after the season. They are very good and off to a great start but let's see what happens after games are played.

Anonymous said...

SSC will be just fine.. For the record SSC did not have its full team at disney. They were missimg 4 starters.. They had 2 very competitive games and and a 3rd game that was 1-0 at half time..Good luck in the spring season to all NJ teams...

Anonymous said...

SSC always missing starters when they lose

Anonymous said...

For the record I just did research in the Disney tournament because of all the nasty post about SSC and SDFC. 16 year old boys can have great tournaments and bad ones. If you take the time to look up the ranking in both flights. SSC was in a much much tougher bracket based on got soccer points. SDFC had a fairly easy bracket with the exception of Louden that was also missing 4-5 starters. Regardless it a tournament and in the past.

Anonymous said...

Another thing. Seriously SDFC you guys are very ignorent. None of your players have college commitments yet. So get off your self proclaimed horse and let the kids have fun playing. Having major points or winning tournaments don't amount to anything but memories. So be a good parents and let the boys be boys

Anonymous said...

Defending both SDFC and SSC but clearly from SSC. How would anyone know how many starters were missing. Are you seriously stating that the SDFC schedule was not top notch. Get a life SSC and grow up

Anonymous said...

How do you know who is going anywhere? What makes you so all knowing on all things SDFC/SSC?

Anonymous said...

Will you tools shut up. Do you have any idea what idiots you sound like? you both must be 12 year olds.

Anonymous said...

It is a stupid conversation, but why is Stronghold taking the approach they are? My guess is that Stronghold feels they are as good if not better and SDFC has the resume to show otherwise. Reality is they are both excellent teams and stand above.

Anonymous said...

One team won and another lost, it happens everyday. There are a lot of good teams in NJ besides SDFC and SSC, but not everyone lives in Montclair, Glen Ridge, Bernardsville and Bedminster and can afford the best trainers and tournaments. You guys have put together good teams, but put some other teams under these circumstances and I am sure they can accomplish the same.

Anonymous said...

You don't PAY for playing in top tournaments you EARN the right to be in them by winning. Every team has that opportunity. Take a look at the player makeup of these two teams and you will find players coming from many towns that you would not consider wealthy. Enough of the excuses, give credit.

Anonymous said...

Top tournaments are free? It's a business. Travel to and from tournaments is also a big expense. The boys miss days of school and parents take off work to go with them. My son's team is very good and they love playing and there's plenty of good competition right here. If you want to think only the best teams go to big tournaments, go right ahead but I don't agree.

Anonymous said...

4:53, you contradict yourself. You go to big tournaments yet there is plenty of good competition here. What are you saying?

Anonymous said...

You're all forgetting that teams at this age group are now competing to showcase. The college coaches go to the big events, so kids who have ambitions of playing in college need to play in front of the coaches. Winning helps get the attention of the schools, but performances will get players recruited.

Soccer is a business in this country and that is unfortunate but it also provides opportunities for playing and life experiences.

We have all chosen soccer for our boys so they can develop life skills and character through sport. And if it helps them get into the right college then that's even better.

If you have questions or concerns about what all the clubs are doing and why, whether it be SDFC, Stronghold, Match Fit or STA then email the respective coaches.

You'll get more sense than the name calling and stirring that entertains us on our coffee breaks.

Anonymous said...

Just asking for the person who claims SSC did not have all of their starters there. So you are telling me that SSC went to one of the premier events in terms of college recruiting and multiple players chose to skip it? What could have been more important for a 16yr old very serious soccer player to do? Seems a bit nutty after all of the efforts they and their parents are putting in to play soccer at this level...

Anonymous said...

According to the above report it was "4" "starters".

Anonymous said...

Stronghold plays the, we had players that couldnt come card, but they do it on purpose. It allows them to bring guest players, the ones they really would like to have, to all of the important tournaments.

Anonymous said...

Those guest players didn't help them anyway. LOL!!!

Anonymous said...

I'm affiliated with a PA team that has played SDFC multiple times in the last calendar year. Watch SDFC right now and then comment please. I watched them play Loudoun at Disney and they controlled the entire game. Loudoun was not missing anyone, but had a key player nursing an injury. SDFC was very good last year, but are on a different level right now. Tons of talent and very organized. They are already qualified for Nationals and have 6 months to prepare! The idea that any of those NJ teams mentioned above are on the same level is ludicrous. BTW - one draw or loss does not refute my argument... this is soccer and upsets do happen, especially when you are already post season bound. When your team qualifies for Nationals, you should respond. Otherwise... compete for 2nd in NJ.

Anonymous said...

BS. You happened to watch a game and you know who louden had and didn't have? How is that possible stalker? You asked if they had all their players? I don't know if SDFC us better or worse because I have not seen them play but everyone is playing for first at this point As a matter of fact as strange as it may sound everyone is still chasing the team that won the championship last year and that is Marlboro who won both. Will they repeat or will SSC win? SDFC? Etc? No one knows so keep your false statements and lies to yourself

Anonymous said...

A team that's well organized and well coached has a huge advantage in competition. This is more important than the individual skills of players. I have seen many teams that get a new coach and suddenly can't win a game. Maybe SDFC has a really good coach.

Anonymous said...

Example

Anonymous said...

My son used to play at TSF and coaches would leave. Suddenly, the winning teams that they coached weren't winning as much. SDFC has had the same coach for a long time. It means a lot.

Anonymous said...

Look at all the top teams. They all have coaching longevity. They also attract the better players from other teams. Seems to me that players can make the coach and coaches can make the players

Anonymous said...

2:13. TSF was never a top team or even a blip on the radar. Coaches and players left because they new it.

Anonymous said...

I know. That's why we left along with other reasons. My son had 6 coaches in 1 yr. and that team just went from bad to worse.

Anonymous said...

ludicrous is the word you used to describe other teams and their ability to be on the same level as SDFC. Ludicrous is really what you mean? No one considers Holmdel a top team any more yet I cant tell you the last time that Holmdel has been beaten by SDFC. Many friendlies have been played and yet no SDFC victories.

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars #8 in NJ. With MF and Cedar Stars in the mix this year maybe some of the so called top teams will be exposed.

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars got 3000 pts. from playing super-y. That's funny when you consider the best teams don't play super-y. Not an accurate ranking of their team but we'll see what they do in the spring.

Anonymous said...

Who is Cedar Stars? Where did they come from?

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars is a new academy that is out of Bergen County but they also have a Newark club with a St. Benedict's Prep. affiliation. I think this team is Cedar Stars Newark. They're ranked very high for a new team.

Anonymous said...

Someone brought up Holmdel. I just looked, they are ranked fairly high.

Anonymous said...

My son used to play for Holmdel/NJX and we stay in touch with some. As we all know they did lose players years ago but they have rebuilt and retooled. They have high hopes for the group they now have.

Anonymous said...

Did Cedar Stars have a team that played super y at this age group? As far as I know, they did not.

Anonymous said...

Maybe it was a mistake and they are U15 or U17. Gotsoccer does that sometimes.

Anonymous said...

I think you're right. Cedar Stars does have multiple teams playing super y but I don't think they played at this age group.

Anonymous said...

The team exists, academy years are different.

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars Newark is not academy. They play EDP.

Anonymous said...

How is that not an academy and where do they play EDP. Good press for them.

Anonymous said...

Cedar Stars has academy teams and club teams,just like PDA and HJCSA.
Cedars Stars Newark is a new club team made up of St. Benedist Prep kids and they are going to play in EDP.

Anonymous said...

They have 18 St Benedict players that are age appropriate. I think not.

Anonymous said...

Early rankings for the spring season? top ten or five?

Anonymous said...

pretty sure cedar stars combined with NJSA - and perhaps the NJSA team is now the one called Cedar Stars in U16 - I know NJSA played Super Y.

Anonymous said...

1:43
Cedar Stars owns NJCSA but the teams have not combined.

CSA Bergen- U8-U14 U14 Academy U13 Pre-Academy and EDP

CSA Newark- U8-U18 EDP

NJCSA- U8-U18 U14/U16/U18 Academy U12/U13/U15/U18 Pre-Academy and EDP.

Anonymous said...

Ramos and NJSA04 Academy tried to move to NJ Stallions a few years ago. Didn't work out. Now they're at Cedar Stars. Will see how it goes.

Anonymous said...

Top 5
1. SSC
2. SDFC
3. Matchfit
4. Marlboro
5. Marlton

Anonymous said...

Don't lose sight of STA.

Anonymous said...

Why Matchfit? They were ranked low last year.

Anonymous said...

Matchfit is an academy team that is no longer playing academy. Ranked where? They are good

Anonymous said...

we'll expect great things from matchfit. If you're that good, why wouldn't you be #1? And you are ranked on got soccer.

Anonymous said...

Academy is different.

Anonymous said...

Actually this is good that MF is playing the likes of SSC and SDFC. We will see the academy team vs the club team debate carry on.

Anonymous said...

Earth to Holmdel: Hope is not a strategy. High marks for hanging around but still a daddy ball team.

Anonymous said...

Why do you care what happens to Holmdel? How do you know the inner workings and who is training? Show me another team that was dominant, had complete turnover and is again a top team. That is not hope, that is a fact.

Anonymous said...

This Holmdel team was dominant? When?

Anonymous said...

I guess 2:44 cant read.

Anonymous said...

Holmdel may be dominant player low-mid level teams but will have a tough time with the top tier.

Anonymous said...

When will holmdel even play the top teams? Their schedule is against the 2nd tier

Anonymous said...

Whoever's top 5 NJ Club teams list that was, was completely absurd, Stronghold has never beaten SDFC and look at the ACTUAL rankings SDFC is ranked 3 in the nation, 2 in the region, and 1 in the state.

Anonymous said...

Absurd? It was a predicted ranking. Deal with it

Anonymous said...

I think SDFC being 3 in the nation is absurd. The nation's got thousands of teams. The odds of SDFC being #3 is pretty low.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps you should play them. See for yourself

Anonymous said...

Some pretty smug parents out there.

Anonymous said...

Forget about the gotsoccer rankings sdfc. You will have some matchup problems with some NJ teams

Anonymous said...

Only team that matches up with SDFC is Stronghold. Others may be able to squeeze out a win but Stronghold is where the trip begins.

Anonymous said...

Marlboro to repeat again this year!

Anonymous said...

Good one. Everyone knows it will either be SDFC or SSC as the favorites, throw in Matchfit and those are the teams to beat.

Anonymous said...

There are teams that chase pts. and there are teams that don't. SDFC and SSC do chase pts. These teams shouldn't be so full of themselves just because they have a high ranking.

Anonymous said...

10:35 Why Matchfit? Why are they even mentioned with SDFC and SSC?

Anonymous said...

Chase points? You mean by playing in the highest possible tournaments against the highest possible teams? You must win to gain points, therefore that means they beat the best teams at the best tournaments. Go back to your Maps schedule.

Anonymous said...

Matchfit is a quality team that doesn't chase pts. There are plenty of teams like that.

Anonymous said...

Matchfit doesnt get placed in the top flights of tournaments therefore they cant earn a lot of points because they are playing against inferior teams which bring no value to the flight. MF will soon find out.

Anonymous said...

Really. Have you seen MF play or played them? If not, you do not know what you are talking about. There are teams that can win on any given day (MF, STA, SSC, Marlton,SDFC, Marlboro, SJEB, STA) and there are teams that can effectively make it through an entire tournament (SSC, SDFC, Marlboro, and now MF)

All other teams winning against these named above (in NJ terms) would be a major upset.

Anonymous said...

We surprised everyone last year and we will surprise you all again this year.

Anonymous said...

Surprised who? Who are you? Unless you are from the Galacticos, you did not surprise anyone.

Anonymous said...

My son's team (STA) played MF late fall. We were missing a few as I'm sure they were. MF is a very good team.

Anonymous said...

Speaking for MF, we look forward to some very good competition this Spring. All the teams we will be playing will be very good and that's what we are looking for. You don't get better by playing weaker teams so we are happy playing in the league we have been placed. Nothing but respect for what the top teams have accomplished over the past few years. Should be fun!

Anonymous said...

I love how all of this is turning out to be, even though spring season has not started....

Anonymous said...

Huh???

Anonymous said...

Marlboro surprised everyone last and will surprise everyone again this year.

Anonymous said...

Call me a sore looser, I don't care, but everyone that was at the state finals against SDFC noticed how bad the refs called it which lead to the Marlboro win. They took away a perfect header goal for SDFC that was not offsides, and if that was not enough, SDFC goalie saved a penalty shot, but it had to be retaken again because the goalie stepped off the line, seriously? It was a fine game from both sides, but it was obvious.
Marlboro has a great bunch of boys that play well and leave everything on the field, and they certainly did not need the refs help that day. The refs left a bitter taste for the game of soccer.
All sate finals should have out of state refs and play in a neutral field.

Anonymous said...

Shows what you know. All refs are assigned by the state. I wasn't there but if a pk was allowed to be retaken for the keeper being off the line I would have to think that the last call any ref wants to make is that one. It must have been aggregious. I also don't believe an SDFC parent wrote the above comment as they are fairly quiet. So to the person who wrote it hiw did marlborio win the US club state cup also? How did they not deserve those wins also?

Anonymous said...

Isn't SDFC the only team to ALREADY clinch a spot at nationals in their group. So where are the other NJ teams at?

Anonymous said...

Very true 3:19, SDFC is the best team but still cant beat Holmdel. I know, scrimmages dont count because 15 and 16 year olds dont play hard in a scrimmage. LOL

Anonymous said...

Some old school Holmdel smack talk. Gotta like it.

Anonymous said...

SSC, SDFC, Maloro, Marlton are the top teams in this state...Sjeb, sta, and matchfit are below them and if you look at the results of these teams you will see.

Anonymous said...

All past results. I'm looking forward to a new season.

Anonymous said...

Dont sell MF short. I believe they will win one state championship.

Anonymous said...

All you point chasers at the top don't count Match Fit or any other team out. A game is played on the field and not on the blogs. By the way, this Match Fit team was the top team in the eastern division 2 years ago, they beat up both PDA and Red Bulls.

Anonymous said...

If matchfit is not into the points then why do they complain about not being in tournaments top flights?

Anonymous said...

matchfit is not complaining that they're not in the top flights. What they are saying is they are a very good team who are not allowed to compete with top flight teams because they haven't earned enough pts. the reason is that the played in the academy league last year where pts. are not valued and collected.

Anonymous said...

Match Fit beat PDA and RedBulls according to previous post. Now, if MF does not run through the likes of SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, and so on what does that tell us about the academy system?

Anonymous said...

Are you saying any teams that are ranked higher than academy teams are better teams? Strange point of view since the academy league doesn't use the same ranking system. Did MF ever play SDFC, SSC, or Marlboro?

Anonymous said...

Not at all. I thought it was clear, but this is what I meant. IF MF has a track record of beating RB and PDA (who are known for being the top teams) then we will have a good gauge by merely watching MF this season. How they perform against the top non academy teams should give us an idea of the actual gap between academy and non academy teams. At least it is something to look and will give some insight. MF will play SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, Marlton, SJEB, STA this season. Hope that clears it up for you.

Anonymous said...

Perfectly! Thanks so much. One problem, MF probably won't play SDFC or SSC this season because of where the teams are ranked.

Anonymous said...

Problem solved. They are all in the same league division. Yes, they will all play.

Anonymous said...

MF, beware of what you ask for. At this point you only have one place to go, down.

Anonymous said...

I see the children are out.

Anonymous said...

Nobody is saying that MF is going to run the table. Teams will win and teams will lose. It will make for great competition.

Anonymous said...

If MF doesnt have a great showing against these teams then it will bring a whole new light on the academy teams. The above poster has a good point on that subject.

Anonymous said...

Manhattan tournament coming up, i cant find applied teams. Am I missing it?

Anonymous said...

How is Matchfit competing at u-16 with 99 or 98 academy team? Or did they rearrange their teams?

Anonymous said...

Combination of 99's and 98's all former academy players.

Anonymous said...

Not sure that answers the question. Did they realign a team or is this the same team that competed in the academy league last year.

Anonymous said...

The team is a combination of 99 and 98 MFA kids that competed in the academy last year. Hope that is clear enough.

Anonymous said...

So it's a new team. Academy competes by birth year.. Good luck

Anonymous said...

a u16 academy team is both 98's and 99's but half of the 98's would not qualify for club u16. They would be u17.

Anonymous said...

So no Mr clarity you didn't

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Anonymous said...

STA drops out of EDP central. What happen STA afraid of tough competition??

Anonymous said...

Are you seriously asking that question? Even if you think that is the case, you took the time to ask it? You seem to be overly confident, what team do you represent? If you had any knowledge at all you would recognize that STA is a very good team and why anyone chooses to stay or go is really none of your business.

Anonymous said...

Although EDP Central Division 1 is very difficult, i doubt that they dropped out for that reason.

Anonymous said...

what do you guys think is the best achievement for these club teams?

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