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Monday, September 9, 2013

U16B - Competition is thick, diverse and talented

What can we say? This age bracket attracts a lot of attention and several teams have very different rosters going into Fall 2014.

Better than ever.

Region 1 at this age bracket offers a lot of talent at the top of the rankings.
U16 Boys soccer is where the action is.

190 comments:

Anonymous said...

i believe SDFC and SSC have played in a few finals....state cup final at least twice both NJ and US Club, as well as some tournament finals.

Anonymous said...

Yes, love those U12 years.

Anonymous said...

SSC and SDFC still are the best two teams in the state and top 10 in the region.

Anonymous said...

Marlboro is right up there with them. A very strong team.

Anonymous said...

Not sure, but maybe. I still think SSC or SDFC would win the majority vs Marlboro but Marlboro would be a good opponent. I also dont know the changes that these teams have made, maybe they added, maybe they lost a player or two.

Anonymous said...

We'll see. Some people are so over confident. (SSC)

Anonymous said...

Of course we will see. We will all see after the games are played of course. Does not change the fact that the better rosters are SSC and SDFC.

Anonymous said...

Actually SSC doubled at U 14 , SDFC doubled at U 13, those U 12 years you love are NJX who doubled U12 and U 11.

Anonymous said...

I agree, both SDFC and SSC still have the most talented non academy rosters in this age group. But that does not guarantee automatic success.

Anonymous said...

Definitely no guarantee of success. Marlboro and Sounders are quality clubs as well.

Anonymous said...

Sounders???? Did I miss 11 new players going there.

Anonymous said...

Yes you did miss something. Players left and new players came in. Sounders are a different team now and i think u will be surprised at what you will now see.

Anonymous said...

Who did the Sounders get (not names but from where). SSC and from what I have heard SDFC and Marlboro added. I guess that is just the way at U16.

Anonymous said...

There are always good players around looking for teams. Anyone who thinks they know every player in this age group is wrong.

Anonymous said...

Of course no one knows everyone. If anyone knows of any player that is still looking and is a great player there is room on some top teams still available I am sure. Didnt tournaments raise the max player number to 22 now? I dont agree with it, why make 6-7 kids angry every game.

Anonymous said...

It's not only the kids, it's also the parents. You can end up paying a lot of money to see your child very sad because he never plays in the games.

Anonymous said...

If you don't play, move. Simple

Anonymous said...

Problem is some games he plays some games he does not. There is no consistency with it. Maybe this year will be different, but new players have joined so maybe it wont.

Anonymous said...

If you're not a starter and the team is 22+ players, you probably won't see much playing time but clubs wants your money so they'll tell you to stay.

Anonymous said...

12:08, that is not a true statement. What if you are player # 12-16? You will play a lot, wont you? If you are 18-22, what are you doing?

Anonymous said...

Maybe, but my son was on a team where the coach only played the starters all the time and subs only when the starter was injured or absent. He was a win at all costs coach and I thought his methods were awful.

Anonymous said...

How is a player supposed to know what # he is on the roster?

Anonymous said...

You know where you fall in the pecking order unless u are new. How don't u know

Anonymous said...

You know if a player is #16 or #18?
Wow, you are an expert. Is that # set in stone?

Anonymous said...

If you question it, then you are in the wrong place (if you want to play)

If you are there for development, different story.

Anonymous said...

Game time is also important for development.

Anonymous said...

I agree that playing in games is also important in developing a good player. I don't understand why some people insist that only practice matters. What kind of message is a player getting who never plays in games and how could that be helping his development? He might as well just quit now.

Anonymous said...

When you walk into a team, by the 5 practice/first scrimmage you should know where your son is on the pecking order. Come on, by this age you should know your kid's talent and where he fits best. I know we all think our little Johnny is the next best thing, but you should not take little Johnny to a team where most of the players are better than him. He may be good enough to make that team, but may not be good enough to crack the top 14 and if that is the case, have a nice time riding the bench. As parents we should do our research first, find out how good the team is, how many players they have and etc...

Anonymous said...

How can you research such a thing. For example, I think we would all agree that to be on the SSC roster you must be a very good player. With that as a fact, you now have 18 very good players! How do they all get substantial play time? They cant. Good team, good program, good coaching, not playing. What do you do?

Anonymous said...

There are really only a few rosters in NJ that "in order to play" you better be REAL GOOD. Other then SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, SJEB, Marlton and maybe Morris you should get plenty of play time on any other team if you have some skill.

Anonymous said...

8:14 go to gotsoccer.com and check the team profile, see how they have done is the last year, see how many players they have. Drive by one of their practices and see what type of talent you see out there, talk a parent whose kid is on the team while you are there, maybe even talk directly to the coach.

Anonymous said...

If a player is on a team where he's not getting a lot of playing time he should keep working hard for the remainder of the season. If his playing time doesn't improve by the end, then he should leave, He made the team fair and square. Nobody can predict the future.

Anonymous said...

HS season ending for some real soon. Time to gear up for some real soccer and not the send it BS I have seen.

Anonymous said...

It's incredible how poor the quality of high school soccer is. Long ball, selfish players with way too many touches who then get dispossessed, tons of dangerous tackles, etc etc. Can wait for it to be over and for real soccer to start.

Anonymous said...

HS coaches are to blame. Listen to the players they know who should play where and how

Anonymous said...

What is the first/earliest tournament for U16 teams to go to this year?

Anonymous said...

There's an EDP College Showcase Nov 22-23.

Anonymous said...

Is that the earliest tournament that is available for these boys?

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is coming up around the same time too.

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is too far for my team, but thanks.

Anonymous said...

The Maps fall challenge is Nov. 15-16 at Fort Dix.

Anonymous said...

Why do some NJ teams go to Bethesda, MD for a tournament? There are plenty of quality tournaments here.

Anonymous said...

On that date? No. Now you know

Anonymous said...

5:43 Plenty of tournaments here? At what level does your team play?

Anonymous said...

Isn't Bethesda an ECNL club?

Anonymous said...

This is boys soccer.

Anonymous said...

A team is going to a tournament in Bethesda because they want to. It doesn't make your team any better.

Anonymous said...

In order to play" you better be REAL GOOD. Other then SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, SJEB, Marlton and maybe Morris you should get plenty of play time on any other team if you have some skill.
October 8, 2014 at 9:47 AM

The idiot who wrote this should get off his high horse. You obviously think your sons team is almighty. I guarantee you they will lose games against teams like IB, DOL, NJF and possibly others. The best talent is not just in those teams.

Anonymous said...

October 24 9:25 I totally agree with your comment!!!

Anonymous said...

9:25
Yes, you have a point, but if you think that Ironbound, Den of Lions or NJF would win more than 5% of the matches played against the other teams mentioned then you are not being honest with yourself. Could they win a game, of course, but most would be 2-4 goal differentials going to the power teams. Over time each has added a player or two each season and they have only become stronger. Wish it wasn't that way but it is.

Anonymous said...

"Wish it wasn't that way"
I think you're being dishonest with yourself.

Anonymous said...

I am 11:28, how am i being dishonest?

Anonymous said...

Do EDP schedules/flights go to coaches first? Anyone know when they normally get posted?

Anonymous said...

Edp Central group 1 is by far the most difficult and challenging, versus the south and north confrences.

Anonymous said...

Who is in that group?

Anonymous said...

FC EUROPA X-TREME CRUNCH 98/99
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 98 BOYS
MARLBORO SA WARRIORS BLUE
MARLTON SC JPS PREMIER 98
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 98/99 BLACK SDFC RANGERS
SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '98
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 98
STRONGHOLD SC FALCONS YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER PREMIER '98

Anonymous said...

FC EUROPA X-TREME CRUNCH 98/99
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 98 BOYS
MARLBORO SA WARRIORS BLUE
MARLTON SC JPS PREMIER 98
MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC 98/99 BLACK
SDFC RANGERS
SOUTH JERSEY ELITE BARONS '98
STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 98
STRONGHOLD SC FALCONS
YARDLEY MAKEFIELD SOCCER PREMIER '98

Anonymous said...

How is that any harder than the other top flights of EDP? They are all very difficult. A team (Howell) who won their EDP flight 2 was moved to a MAPS division. Teams have improved.

Anonymous said...

If Howell was moved to Maps, that must have been the coach's decision.
Maybe he lost a lot of good players.

Anonymous said...

Speaking in general, not just about Howell here, why would any coach drop their team that dramatically? If a team WINS their division, they should not be allowed to drop. Who cares what their reason is, it is not fair to the other teams.

Anonymous said...

Why isn't it fair to the other teams?

Anonymous said...

If an EDP level team is playing in MAPS, which is at a lower level, it wouldn't be fair competition. The idea is to have teams play equal teams in terms of quality.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they felt that Howell was just a Maps level team. In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter? They are flighted so low that it becomes more just for fun anyway.

Anonymous said...

Lol, as opposed to the higher level flights that aren't playing just for fun, they are playing for huge amounts of money and contracts, or to reach the Champions League. get a grip. Its all for fun - they are 15 years old. The only place it isn't for fun is at the real academy teams. And none of the teams on this board are that type of team.

Anonymous said...

So sick of the academy BS. Yes the academy teams have players that are very good, but not the entire roster is that great. There are MANY non academy players that could play on these academy teams but choose not too. If you feel that isn't so, you are flat out wrong. If the academy teams feel so strongly about themselves, why not play a Stronghold or Marlboro or SDFC. Might the academy team win, yes of course but I think you might be very surprised at some of the non academy talent out there.

Anonymous said...

The same goes for your "amazing" SDFC, SSC, Marlboro, Marlton. Other players would fit in fine on those teams. Players on these teams aren't the "chosen ones"
so get real. Soccer is a simple game, it's not that difficult for a good coach to get good results. If he knows where to play his players to get the most out of them and the team has been together for many years, you will see the results.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, 11:27 I suppose you have anger issues. Who are you arguing with? Yourself!!!!! No one said your little guy couldn't play on the top teams. Unless he tried out and didnt make it :)

Anonymous said...

EDP winter showcase is the first big tournament out of the box. Flights should be out soon.

Anonymous said...

Flights and schedules are out for EDP CUP/MSSL Showcase

Anonymous said...

EDP cup is not the first big event, I would say Bethesda is.

Anonymous said...

EDP is a top tournament, you dont have to go to Bethesda to get exposure. As EDP relates to NJ teams you have SDFC/SSC/Marlboro/SJEB in the top flight. That is 50% of the teams in the top flight alone. 2nd flight has Marlton.
3rd has Holmdel and Jersey Knights
4th has Jersey Boca, Howell and TSF. Not sure why Howell keeps getting the ugly stepchild placements.

Anonymous said...

They are the same weekend. I'm sure it'll be warmer in Bethesda.

Anonymous said...

What do you mean when you say 50% of teams in the top flight? You named 4 teams.

Anonymous said...

Bethesda and EDP are not on the same weekend. There are 8 teams in the top flight, 4 from NJ, equaling 50%.

Anonymous said...

Hope that the division on u16b 2nddiv. central changes a lot. Better teams in the maps elite north as far as head to head competition and rankings. Ironbound and Hudson should not be there and Den of Lions and Stallions should replace these 2 teams. Not sure what the director is looking at...

Anonymous said...

Agreed, it almost looks like some teams asked to be placed in lower flights.

Anonymous said...

Bethesda is this weekend, going to be cold. Glad now my sons team is not going. Good luck to the NJ teams but what I looked at wont be easy for them.

Marlboro placed in the top flight and drew the #1 team in the country.

SJEB highly placed and no easy games.

STA highly placed, but a bit of an easier road.

Marlton placed a bit too low and should win their group

Anonymous said...

Agreed that Marlton is too low. They should be higher and I expect will show that after the weekend.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the schedulers know Howell better then you all do. 1 game and they are out of the EDP cup.

Anonymous said...

To all u Howell haters ... Tournament won!

Anonymous said...

Howell, that cant be you can it? No way you are bragging about beating those teams are you? I understand you played and won but those are barely travel teams.

Anonymous said...

I watched the final waiting for the next game. It was a good competitive final. Good soccer, slightly too small field, and ref called it a little too soft. Was good game to watch if you like high school age soccer. Not sure why the derogatory remarks about the teams - they all had some good physical players. This board is so stuck back in the "when they were 12 years old" mentality.

Anonymous said...

Good and competitive compared to what? Let's start with this, if your son is U16 and is playing at the Howell tournament then we know the teams are neither good nor competitive. Howell tournament is a step above rec. Howell I am sure didnt want to be there.

Anonymous said...

Looks like jersey teams did poorly at Bethesda.. Marlboro and sjeb came in last in their groups

Anonymous said...

3:06 thanks for the update. Did you look at the NJ teams closely. Lets start at the top.

Marlboro, played 3 games, scored 3 goals, gave up 3 goals. Played 3 state champions one of which is the #1 team in the country.

SJEB, playing in a very high flight didnt seem to do great but lets be honest, those are top National teams.

STA, went 1-1-1 in the next flight scoring 3 goals, giving up only 5.

Marlton, 1 win, 2 ties, came in 2nd in their group. This was too a very tough group of teams.

So, it is very easy to dismiss the NJ teams but you should look at the facts.

Anonymous said...

The facts is the NJ state champions could not compete with other state champions, last place in their group is the fact. Stop making excuses for the team that represents NJ as state champion.

Anonymous said...

Wow what a dunce you are. They played 3 games, best the flight winner and lost tbe other two by 1 goal. If you think that us a bad weekend then go ahead. Did your team go? If they did then they were looking up at them. If you didn't go to the top tournament then you have other issues. I hope you are not from my sons team because if do you should know that is what we aspire to do

Anonymous said...

Please do tell us your sons team

Anonymous said...

Sounds like marlboro Man is posting again.
Welcome back

Anonymous said...

I am 9:13, not from Marlboro and I stand by my statement. SDFC, SSC and Marlboro get crushed on here when they lose, but what people fail to realize is the level of competition is far greater then any other team in NJ is playing. People are either clueless or outright evil in what they are saying, someone has to speak the truth.

Anonymous said...

And it begins again. I can tell you this first hand as my son's team has scrimmaged some of the top ranked teams recently. The top 5 are in fact ranked that way for a reason, they are good.

Anonymous said...

None can touch MF. Now that MF will be playing them all will see the truth of soccer balance. Until then, Happy Thanksgiving

Anonymous said...

BS alert! Nobody I know at MF would be silly enough to post something like that. Happy Thanksgiving!

BTW, watched the first half of Marlboro against Arlington. Thought Marlboro had the better of the play although they were down 2-1 at halftime. Soccer...

Anonymous said...

Why would you watch the first half?

Anonymous said...

Ummm, I had time to kill.

Anonymous said...

No PDA College Showcase this year.

Anonymous said...

Any predictions EDP cup
SDFC vs SSC

Anonymous said...

Glad to see them back, SDFC vs SSC...good competition once again!....NJ has some really good teams up in this age group...Marlboro, Holmdel, Barons....Good Luck Boys..

Anonymous said...

Let's see who they bring. SSC loves guest players

Anonymous said...

I am sure they will bring the best team they can put together

Anonymous said...

EDP Cup update: Marlboro lost both games today. Team looks very weak.

Anonymous said...

My son plays for SDFC and we did play right after Marlboro 2x today. They were not the same team I saw last year so I asked a parent. Missing 6 starters due to injury.

Anonymous said...

Marlboro had the same team today as they had when winning the state cups. Don't make excuses about injuries unless you are admitting to not having depth on the bench and then navle to pickup good additional players because you are a town team.

Anonymous said...

Enough with Marlboro. How did SDFC and SSC do today?

Anonymous said...

FYI - SSC did not bring any guest to the EDP tournament. My son plays on Marlboro and I know some parents on the team. We didn't have the result we wanted today but do have a lot of current injuries. It happens to all teams.

Anonymous said...

I just looked up the results of the EDP Cup and the competition seams very stiff. Best of luck to the NJ teams. I'm not surprised Marlboro lost both games.

Anonymous said...

SDFC did just fine. It is early and all the top teams are getting back into it. SSC will be a great opponent Sunday and believe this all other teams. It is a different world when you play in a top flight of a top tournament. Much higher level then most will ever see. So win lose or draw tomorrow we know it isn't the end if the world.

Anonymous said...

How many points does the EDP Cup represent?

Anonymous said...

EDP Cup update:

1.SDFC wins final 2-0
2.SSC wins 3-0 for third place
3.Marlboro does not place in the tournament

Anonymous said...

SSC was not in the final based on goal differential. Tough luck.

Anonymous said...

SSC deserved better. Will show better in the future

Anonymous said...

Congratulations SDFC!! Way to go boys, excuse me, young men!

Anonymous said...

YO!, 4:20 SSC wasn't in the final because they lost to SDFC. Forget about goal differential.

Anonymous said...

YO!!!
SDFC and SSC both had 6 pts. at the end of 3 games.

Anonymous said...

The tie breaker used to determine placement when 2 teams are tied was head to head competition. SDFC beat SSC in the preliminary round and advanced to the finals.

Anonymous said...

Both very good teams. No need to bash beat them up on a website. Marlton did a nice job this weekend also.

Anonymous said...

It was a very tough tournament and the two top teams without a doubt was SSC and SDFC. The result is all in the way the ball bounces that day for both teams. Both teams will represent NJ at the Disney tournament and I predict one of them will win it all.

Anonymous said...

SSC still playing with players that are not on the team. When will they stop?

Anonymous said...

Congrats to SDFC. And to SSC and Marlboro for competing at a high level over the weekend. I'm interested in hearing more opinions about the range of teams just below SDFC, SSC, and Marlboro though. It seems like the conversation is always focused on these three, and they are deserving in that they are very good teams, but there are many other quality teams that don't get the acclaim these three do, but are maybe not so far behind. Looking at the rankings, say from #5 Marlton to Hudson #21. Who in that group might be ready to challenge for a spot in the top tier--or will it simply remain as is?

Anonymous said...

STA and Marlton are very good teams and can compete with the others on any given day. I have a son that plays for SJEB and I feel that we are on the right track but just are not consistent enough at this time. We played Marlboro over the weekend and had a result of a tie but I know they were missing many players, well I should say I was told they were missing many players. I personally thought that Stronghold was the best team we played but honestly in the top bracket they were all very very good. Marlton did a great job but they were a few flights down so it doesn't really reflect the same. Holmdel has made a bit of a comeback but again they are not playing the best teams yet. Just my opinion, no offense meant to SDFC who was very impressive also.

Anonymous said...

SSC, SDFC, Marlboro, SJEB, Marlton are the top 5 teams in nj and could all compete on any given sunday some teams not that far behind but still ways to go before entering the top 5.

Anonymous said...

any thoughts on who might not be far behind the top 5? What about teams like Den of Lions, Greater Flemington, Galacticos, Stallions, Hudson, TSF?

Anonymous said...

I think that would be very difficult to tell since they never play one another (exception Galacticos who did in the State cup). Galacticos had a great run last year but I would think they wouldnt win a game against the other teams most times. My son plays for a team that was top 10 and no longer is so I have a frame of reference. There is a big difference between #10 and #3, the top teams never get an easy game and play in the top flights of the tournaments. Of course it is possible to contend, but these teams would have to add dominant players not just add the same level players that they already have. I guess the state cup will be a good gauge.

Anonymous said...

SSC expert please tell us which player/players that played this past weekend are not part of the team..

Anonymous said...

BOCA, TSF, DOL Stallions, Princeton etc, you will all get your chance to compete with the higher ranked teams in the State comps. This is really the only place it will occur.

Anonymous said...

every SSC player used this weekend is on the team zero guest players.

Anonymous said...

A lesser ranked team that feels they can compete with a higher ranked team could arrange a scrimmage. I'm sure there are some underdogs out there that may surprise everyone.

Anonymous said...

Good for you SSC, welcome to the the world that the rest of us play in.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 11:36. I wish my team would do that. Why don't you coaches do this?

Anonymous said...

Let's stop the negativity against SSC and state facts:
They did not advance to the finals based on goal differential.
They lost to a better SDFC team.
They played very well the entire tournament.
SDFC is clearly the team to beat.
Great job boys!

Anonymous said...

What? Lets stop the negativity by being negative? SDFC and SSC or the Hatfields and McCoys.

Anonymous said...

SDFC parent, your team won. It wasn't an overwhelming victory. Your team won 3 out of 4 games. So did SSC. Your team beat them by 1 goal. The teams are equally competitive. Winning doesn't tell the whole story. Luck is always a factor.

Anonymous said...

Why cant we just say they are both great. Why not?

Anonymous said...

Because there are too many people on this website who think the only way to build their own team up is by tearing other teams down. Never understood that...

Anonymous said...

None of the teams being discussed are great. They are very good teams. If the hand ball had been called against SDFC in the waning minutes of the game against SJEB, Falcons would have been in the finals. Does this make either of those teams lesser than they are?

Anonymous said...

It makes you less of a man to even make that statement.

Anonymous said...

What does that even mean? He's being honest. You're being unreasonable.

Anonymous said...

Honest? In his opinion it was a handball but in the opinion of the only person that matters, the referee, it was not. Stop crying Stronghold.

Anonymous said...

I'm interested to see what happens at the Disney showcase. SSC and SDFC will battle again. If one of you wins it all, that will be very impressive. Very good teams there.

Anonymous said...

SSC and SDFC won't play each other but it will still be interesting to see how they do.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible that SSC and SDFC can get their own section on this blog. Let them bash one another and the rest of us can live in peace.

Anonymous said...

just here to say that the only reason sdfc won the finals in the edp cup, sdfc's keeper named dani veliu kept them in the game with spectacular saves in the dying moments of the game a little lucky with the post but thats part of the game congrats to them looking forward to see them in CASL and Disney.

Anonymous said...

Thanks dad

Anonymous said...

he isn't my son, my son plays for pda academy, and my son used to play for sdfc.

Anonymous said...

Your son plays for PDA but you were at the SDFC game, and your posting on here about SDFC. OK you are right, moron.

Anonymous said...

If the administrator of this blog reviews the posts daily, I have a suggestion that others may agree to:

Is it possible to create an SSC, SDFC blog? It would alleviate a great deal of negativity.

Anonymous said...

Actually, it might eliminate this blog. SDFC and SSC are the two that all compare themselves too.

Anonymous said...

Are you for real??? How arrogant you are. The world will go on without those two teams!

Anonymous said...

PDA parent, just curious, do you think there is a big difference in the level of play in academy soccer and the top club teams?

Anonymous said...

My son played for an academy team last year. Is there a difference, yes but minor. The difference is depth or lack of it.

Anonymous said...

the top players on both sdfc and ssc could play academy and many have some are back because they want to be able to play in HS, or want to play in their best position, or simply to get more playing time the above post is correct about the major dif being depth as opposed to level of play sdfc and ssc could easily beat lower academy teams that are creamed by NYRB and PDA ( Met Oval, Seacoast etc )

Anonymous said...

Lets be honest 1:01, or not asked back. However, there is no doubt that SDFC, Marlboro, SSC, Marlton and STA could all play with academy teams. Problem is they cant ever prove this because of the mixture of 98/99 and how it is done in the academy system.

Anonymous said...

To the person who posted about hand ball(handling). As a current ref it is definitely the most controversial and s jective call(noncall). First it has to be deliberate, second was the player making themselves bigger(spreading arms wide), third proximity. Finally did the player gain an advantage..all has to be decided in real time taking in level of play and flow of game..all this is why it is so controversial.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. Tough call to make either way. Your plan has to be to play better and make the ref's decisions not matter.

Anonymous said...

" Let's be honest" ???? on an anonymous soccer blog??? now there's one for you!!!!

Anonymous said...

Super-y finals began today. Does anyone care about super y anymore?

Anonymous said...

9:29 my son gets playing time but for real i think its back to playing club its not because he hates academy, hes a quality player but he just misses playing highschool soccer, and academy takes everything too serious club is where it's at nowadays

Anonymous said...

I agree 100 % my son had spot on academy but chose to go back to original club team, main reason missed playing with his both on club and high school teams.

Anonymous said...

Good luck son and all the boys of SDFC in North Carolina. I hope you all represents NJ well....

Anonymous said...

There is absolutely no way that teams like Marlboro can compete against full academy teams unless your definition of compete is to survive the 80 minutes; pack the box; hope for your keeper to have a career day and hope for generous and sympathetic calls from the referees. Marlboro would be hard pressed to compete against the academies club teams. Marlboro does not do well against any out of state competition against average teams and they can't score goals when needed. They are a nice team for players of average ability and who at one time or another were on academy teams before realizing that they were not good enough to make the full academy team. The truth is hard to find if you are not willing to look for it.

Anonymous said...

9:50 You are such an expert. I am not a Marlboro parent, these boys are 15/16 yrs old. They are doing what is necessary to compete at a high level. Win some, loose most games- some of them are good enough to get noticed in spite of team losses. Coaches are watching individual performances.
So what academy does your son play on?
Btw, they are loosing to top notch teams. Those losses are better than wins against average teams.
My sons team is in a similar situation. The team is learning through this process and in spite of draws and losses, my son played excellent soccer.
Winning is not everything. Sure is good but player development does not stop due to losses.

Anonymous said...

Well that was random. Why Marlboro was even brought up is beyond me. Made me look however and their last tournament they lost 1 and tied 2 in the top flight of teams. Is that really a bad showing? So I looked at the one prior, they went 1-1-1 again in the top flight. I dont know what you expect but that seems like a more than respectable showing to me. Ok, if they were in the 4th flight and had the same results, maybe you would be on to something. Do I think my sons team is better, yes I do. But they will need to show it on the field as I suspect they will. Everyone said the same thing about the Falcons when they didnt win all of their tournaments and I had the same answer then, who does at the top level. No one.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, 9:50, please explain to me when Marlboro, SDFC, SSC play "average" teams. They are always in the highest flights. Clueless you are.

Anonymous said...

The word is lose...not loose.

The top teams are in the academy. The next best teams (level 2) are in some cases the state's #1-3 teams but even here, some states #1 are not that good. This is not a knock at Marlboro. But they are not a team that plays technical soccer nor are they big winners against the majority of games they play against level 2 teams. Let's not argue about the academies. They are level 1. The next tier is not a group that Marlboro has shown they can beat consistently. Saying that other NJ teams are equally average against other state's level 2 teams does not make Marlboro any better. They are a nice catch all team that still is in business and for average players is a nice soccer experience.

Anonymous said...

So Academy expert is also hanging around the club teams and has time to see them all. Interesting.

Anonymous said...

I can speak from an SDFC point of view. SDFC is a talented group of players and yes I do believe this team can compete with very well many academy level teams. I also have great respect for Stronghold as they have long been a great competitor of ours. In the past couple of years Marlboro has moved up the ranks, beat our team and we have since scrimmaged them a couple of times and they too deserve great respect. I am not sure but it seems someone has an axe to grind or simply does not understand the level of play these teams have attained. Yes, they will all lose matches, they all play top 20 teams nationally.

Anonymous said...

And the Marlboro strategy for recent improvement? Get rid of all of the Marlboro kids.

Anonymous said...

Hey Marlboro. They would not be talking about you if you were not good. You obviously have shown you can compete with anyone. Great job. And congrats to sdfc for a good win in NC today!

Anonymous said...

Why should Marlboro be held to different standards than everyone else? This isn't U 12 soccer, if they have players from outside of Marlboro it is because they are better. It is clear they are better now than they were SDFC doesn't have just Montclair players. SSC has players from all over. Marlton isn't all marlton etc. such hate

Anonymous said...

Let us guess. The Marlboro parent manager's kid is still on the team but few other Marlboro kids? What a surprise.

Anonymous said...

8:23 thank you for outing yourself. Everyone can now stop blaming other teams for the negative posts on Marlboro as there is an ex players father or mother who just cant let it go.
Now on to the important stuff, games today, good luck to all.

Anonymous said...

I was always under the impression that Marlboro was a town team made up of Marlboro players, at least the majority of the team is Marlboro players. The same with Marlton, Parsippany, Bloomfield, etc. SDFC and SSC are clubs that have players from all over.

Anonymous said...

They were until the dad realized they couldn't win with Marlboro players and the trainer/coach couldn't develop the Marlboro players. They then did what everyone else does. Recruit a better team.

Anonymous said...

Jealousy is such a harmful way to live your life. I give teams like Marlton and Marlboro credit for not only competing with the top clubs but beating them also at times. Parsippany? Bloomfield? You show your ignorance.

Anonymous said...

The issue is are they town teams or not. According to their websites, they are clubs for their residents. I guess since winning is so important, the fact that town clubs exist for their residents is ignored.

Anonymous said...

That is what you have? Town or not town debate?

Anonymous said...

Nutbag you are. Name a competitive U16 team that doesn't utilize players from all over? Hell, name a U16 team that has more then half their team from one town. I dont know the Marlboro situation but I know in my town most of the turnover came from players leaving not being cut. They all felt it was a badge of honor to play somewhere else. You must have serious issues even making this a topic at this level. U10, ok maybe you have a point. Move on and grow up.

Anonymous said...

sdfc beat pateadores, and santa clara, tied michigan jaguars and scottsdale blackhawks.... sdfc is doing very well on top of their bracket going into disney.

Anonymous said...

anyone know what is up with EDP website? When I try to go to it, some strange domain managing site comes up . . .

Anonymous said...

What? SDFC did NOT win every game they played? Just kidding. Some dope will feel they didnt have a good weekend.

Anonymous said...

Any other tournament news from the NJ teams?

Anonymous said...

SDFC is two games away from being in the national championships in Oklahoma, SSC? Thats a joke. SDFC is the team to beat nationally. They developed some great players and matured enough to win consistently, they only lost one game in the past 3 months.

Anonymous said...

Win when it matters!

Anonymous said...

Personally I am pulling for SDFC as I would for any of the top teams we normally play. If they sucked what would that say about our team? I would love to see SDFC win it all and then have the chance to beat the champs.

Anonymous said...

SDFC , the team to beat nationaly? my aren't we a bit full of ourselves? your hubris will most likely cause you to not even win state in the spring, what will you brag about then ? geez i thought ssc was bad when it came to this, but you have now taken it to all time low!

Anonymous said...

lol we'll see in the spring buddy

Anonymous said...

Who said SDFC was the team to beat nationally? I dont see that anywhere. Comprehension skills anyone?

Anonymous said...

Dec 15 8.34
No one likes a braggart.

Anonymous said...

i dont see anyone bragging, please show me where this occurred. Tough to be on top SDFC, people make S up.

Anonymous said...

SDFC did beat both current National Champions this month

USYS National Champions lost to SDFC 3-2 in National league play this past week in NC.

USCLub National Champions SSC lost to SDFC 3-2 earlier this month at the EDP Cup.

Nice Job SDFC. We look forward to playing you in the spring.