Schools like Bernards, yes no doubt they can play V, but CBA, not likely.Smaller schools like W morris and Mendham also yes, but Princeton, less likely.As far as Gill, 7 starters out of 10 players..if they are frosh they need to get significant playing time or they should be on JV. So I doubt all seven will be on V.
Why sophomore a different story? Three of the SSC frosh are in fact bigger in size than the sophomores .
Size, Size, Size. Sophomores can only make JV or Varsity, where as freshman have 3 possible landing spots. That is why it is a different story. Are you saying the freshman are better or just bigger? The sophomores have been in the HS system for a year now, that will either help them or hurt them.
...although I agree with previous comments about size in high school matters. A 14 or 15 year old vs a Much tougher, stronger 17 to 18 year old, but many HS coaches in our area are trying good quality, skilled freshman talent. It's a bit scary when you see your kid on the field being challenged by a senior on a one to one ball. On the other hand, it's a mental and physical challenge for the freshman, specially if he feels he wants to become professional.
7 starters at gill was never stated. 7 made varsity roster, at least three will start, a couple may float between varsity and jv.
Frosh on varsity at CBA. Think again
Come on dad admit it you were wrong. CBA freshman varsity was only a dream in your mind. Doesn't even deserve JV but bro helps
Not the dad, but an SSC parent, and dad doesn't have to admit he was wrong as SSC freshmen makes CBA varsity. So you were wrong and now you think again. it's also so obvious who you are, a dad of a former NJX teammate . Your petty jealousy is so transparent. BTW why isn't your son on RBNY, you said he was of that quality, went to a few trainings and I guess he was too good? So you went elsewhere?
11:30, strange post to say the least. NJX on NJX crime is still topping the charts.
3:25 on 8/25Looks like the dream was indeed reality as you were proved wrong. SSC freshmen makes CBA varsity, so all your babling on about dad, bro, donations, over 100 going out etc was just plain irrelevant. The kid is a good player and he made varsity , plain and simple as that.BTW also saw Gill scrimmage v Ridge and Seton Hall prep yesterday at Ridge. Gill had seven freshmen from SSC on varsity and four started. They also started three sophomores from SSC.. Gill beat Ridge 1-0 ( a freshmen scored ) and they tied SHP 0-0. Not bad for a bunch of young kids who you say should not be on varsity.
You must love SSC to go to all of these games and know what you think you know. I don't believe anyone ever said that SSC didn't have good players, I know I didn't. Making Varsity at one school is by no means equal to making varsity or JV at another. All the variables are not equal so they really cant be compared. To make CBA varsity as a freshman is a great accomplishment but to say that siblings don't matter, well you are wrong. Not just at CBA, siblings matter almost everywhere. Good luck to all.
and a frosh SSC starts for Bernards, so that is 9 and counting playing varsity. If you are quality you play, simple.
8:18 on Aug 20" Sorry SSC doesn't have 12 players who can play varsity soccer....just don't"Looks like you are wrong!Starting centre forward on HillsboroughStarting striker and reserve mid on Bernardsreserve mid on CBAreserve fwd on Ridgestarting left back, center back, center mid, and fwd on Gill St Bernardsreserve back, mid, and fwd at Gill as wellSo there you have it 12 confirmed varsity players, and all the above teams are at least pretty good.
Certainly not a strange post to one man and he knows it!
c'mon 325 admit it , you were the one that was wrong!
SSC head coach and Gill head coach are the same guy. Why wouldn't he pick the best players from his club to strengthen his varsity team.
This is boring.
Boring? Not sure. There are many players out there that are playing JV and being called up to the Varsity team to get a few minutes here and there. Only SSC finds the need to come on here and shout it out. Of course Gil coach is going to take them on varsity, if he didn't he is telling them that they aren't his best players on SSC and they will leave SSC. So other than Gil, you have one starter at Hillsborough all the rest are in the same boat as the other better players, getting some varsity time here and there. Again, I don't see the need for SSC to continually come on here although I suspect it is just one dad.
Nor do I see the need for you to continually put them down. Seems like they just respond to put downs and criticisms, rather than start things up. Wasn't it you who put down the CBA player? Wasn't it you who said they didn't have varsity calibre players. The SSC/ Gill coach is one of the best around.Doubt if he would just put players on a top 20 program just to keep them in a club. It is more likely that quality players want to get a quality education and have a quality HS soccer experience as well. I see nothing wrong with that. I agree with 814 above,why wouldn't he get some of his best players into an already good program. Seems logical and practical to me.And yes I do believe there are many quality freshmen out there from many clubs. SSC by no means has the market cornered on that. I am sure that players from SDFC up north, PDA central, Howell shore , Marlton, Marlboro down south, just to name a few will have some players make varsity. Good luck to all.
All started with 11:32 on 8/18 with the "not my little SSC player " comment.
Prob is with 325 who can 't admit he was wrong
JV is not Varsity
Ok let's go deeper. Any SSC dynamo players on varsity?
Dynamo goalie made Somerville varsity shutout bridgewater this week.
You prob bring up dynamo to be sarcastic, but they also have a few players who made varsity. A fwd on Mo Beard, a back on Ridge, and a fwd on gill.
Lets go even deeper. Any SSC Arsenal players make varsity?
SSC, why don't you create your own board. We all know who the author is
I wasn't being sarcastic, I thought one or two would have a shot. Just goes to show the depth of the u15s. As far as arsenal. I think that person was sarcastic:)
SSC can u get higher on ur selves?
That person can be as sarcastic as he wants, fact is even an arsenal player made varsity, although it was at a very small school. Will likely start at striker alongside a good former SDFC striker.
Why don't you stop living in past glory days of NJX, as everyone on here knows who you are. at least we are current.
Yeah 325 prob on here is with you and you all foolish pride. Be a man and admit you wrong about CBA player. Otherwise everyone know you just a fool. Peace out.
Aww and those SSC people comin on here hurt your feelings? Upsetting your turf? All the power to them , fool.
You should disappear off here with the Princeton Black U 14 worshipper . At least he leaves or lays low when wrong. man, you just keep ramblin on and on.....and they got the best of you now, cause their club team is pretty darn good and their boys doing the number on you in school ball as well. So you need to chill bro.
12 ssc players confirmed for varsity? must be some seriously crap varsity teams. dpn't be a fool dude.
Black U14 worshipper? Wow! I must be on the U15B Most Wanted List just below Mr. Hudson! How did I get that religious connotation when I have nothing to do w/ Princeton Black and I just took a bet that somebody else put forth (#1 vs. #10). Sorry couldn't stay away from your board of fools for too long. It is too entertaining. And who decided I was wrong? I don't think the bet is settled yet, but I do understand Black has lost a key player or two from a month ago so if you would do me the same favor I offered and allow a suitable substitute I will happily see it through. Until then, my point stands. Your NJ age group plays ugly American football. You aspire to D1, but fall far short of anything resembling world class. That's okay. The kids just a few years younger are paving that road.
Don't really see them as being so high on themselves, but more so as responding to and defending against your digs at them. And even if they end up being high on themselves, they certainly deserve it more than you and your pent up jealousy.
Your glorious little kids a few years younger are going to play the exact same type of soccer at u 15. Get over yourself!
We'll just have to wait and see just how crap CBA, GSB, Hillsborough, Bernards etc will be this year. Prob less crappy than your sons HS team
Beg to differ with you moron. Have you even taken time to watch the 8 and 9 yr olds from Cedar Stars etc. warming up or playing around? They are MUCH better! MUCH! A class above your U15...age adjusted for sure...maybe even age unadjusted. There is no question that they will be vastly superior by U15. The only real question is whether USA Soccer will allow them to develop on a world class scale to U18 and beyond. Judging from the results of the Newark Soccer Summit they are not there yet, but there are promising signs from the younger classes.
950 what in your opinion are crap varsity teams , and what do you think are good ones?
Eight and nine year olds are cute youth players not far removed from diapers. U 15 are young men. Stop comparing apples and oranges. Whether you like it or not, hormones do come crashing into your nirvana soccer dream world. As players get older, play generally becomes more defensive, and yes even at the highest levels, so spare the Messi lecture ( he I great but players like that are once a generation, not the norm). In most countries ,the majority of youth national players, are not even on the radar any more at the senior level. So enjoy your precious darling little prodigies now. More than half won't even be playing any more by u 18. These are just the cold hard facts. You need a dose of reality.BTW I am not the moron in this conversation, the man in the mirror is.
"maybe even age unadjusted" ? Are you insane? Do you really think an eight year old warmup shows those players to be better than u 15 players? .....and you have the nerve to refer to someone else as a moron?
cedar stars won't even be together by u 15, Latin version of NJX.
Do you really think anyone at USA Soccer is concerned about the development of a U 9 team?Do you think they will be at fault if these boys don't develop into world class players?Not only are you naive, but you are dillussional thinking an entire youth team at u 9 can all develop to that level. Be thankful if one of your little kickers makes it, although highly doubtful with parents like you guiding them. So the only real question is how long will they stay with the game before idiot parents cause them to burn out?
9:50. Those seriously crap varsity teams will beat most HS teams out there. What HS team does your son play on? Have them get a game with gill next year and you 'll see just how crappy they are.
This chump just mad that the SSC and Gill boys took over his board! HA HA looks like there's a new sherrif in town!.....so get outa town by sundown!
Your u 8 and 9 are nothin compared to the great U 2 and U 3 I saw over at PDA the other night. Everyone knows they will end up much better than Cedar Stars. prob could beat them right now. They even wore matching light blue Pampers!
Who cares who you beg to differ with, and who cares about an 8 or 9 year old team? Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously?
SSC show some class
Went to one HS soccer practice. Awful. Relegated to the worst field on the campus (catholic HS) as football takes priority. Worried my son might get a broken leg from a well intentioned tackle. Truth is HS soccer is dead. It's horrible. If you play on an academy team don't bother - it's not worth the waiver or the potential medical expenses. Have your son run cross country. At least his fitness will benefit.
Gotta like the light blue pampers joke......truly funny
a little lesson in history from Krystal Ball........what do NJX, Bergen Kickers, and Americans all have in common?Answer : these were all clubs who had outstanding dominating teams that all won state cups at U 11 and U 12, but then disbanded by U 14.What all three had in common was a group of crazy parents who got on soccer forums and boasted to the high heavens.So Cedar Stars, and others, be careful , and most of all be humble. make sure you are not next in that line. And always remember that history does repeat itself.
Love the U2 and U3 comment!!! This is classic. Can't even believe people are talking about U8 soccer here.
HS season hasn't even begun yet and I know my son for one is missing his club team. He feels HS soccer isn't at nearly the same level and he is looking forward to November. Yes, Varsity minutes, but in the grand scheme of things it isn't that great.
I have read a lot of negative comments about H.S. soccer and whether it is worth it. With my son now being in H.S. I am more focused on the game. His schedule is very tough with Hunterdon Central, Bridgewater, Hillsborough, North Hunterdon and others on the schedule. All very good soccer schools, and I have been to a dozen games over the last few years, featuring those teams. So I didn't understand all the negative statements. I just looked at storied Gill's schedule, since their is alot of chatter on the site about the number of SSC boys starting V. They have S Hunterdon, manville, bound brook all 2X and a few other ridiculous teams scheduled. After a few very lopsided games the SSC kids will be looking forward to returning to club. It is too bad they and others won't experience a higher level of competition...it looks more like Middle School soccer than H.S. I for one will be looking forward to my sons games over those he played at club. Gill boys, I pity you! Lets see how you do against BW
I saw this post and thought it very well thought out. "There is also a chance that the coach stinks at a high school or the conference they play in is not quality soccer, due to size of schools, which would explain why the kids are willing to play club soccer rather than high school soccer. Still, there is also a chance that the kids who have made this decision are not good enough to get playing time at their high school. Let's face it; soccer is so diluted by the number of club teams that most club teams stink. In fact, even at the academy level there is questionable talent after the starting 11. The idea that all academy kids are going to play DI soccer is laughable; moreover, the idea that this is an efficient way to identify players for our national program is even more laughable. The fact of the matter is that many academies will not be able to stay in the federation, once the players and their parents come to the realization that they are not competing that frequently. The top 14 / 15 players will get some serious playing time and exposure to colleges, but, after that, the other kids will come to the sobering conclusion that they gave up their favorite parts of soccer: being on a team that values their contributions, making significant friendships with teammates, staying connected to that institution that educates them, actually playing in games, and understanding that we live our lives as we live our days (having fun). Perhaps this is why teams like the Baltimore Bays have left the Academy Federation. Their kids and families realize that 1) their club team will get exposure to college coaches without the academy system playing in other high-level leagues 2) most DI -DIII college teams have camps that expose players to the coaches 3) the academies are diluted, controlling, and void of having players intrests as their priority. The professional teams should have academy teams. The other academy teams should realize that this is a bad business model in the long run, stop deceiving players that they hold the only golden ticket to collegiate ball, and stop overcharging families for training.In the end, soccer should be fun. Show me one academy team where kids genuinely feel as if this is a team that they are truly committed to, make significant friendships, and know, in the marrow of their bones, that they will one day look back fondly on having been on that team. Most kids and their families grudgingly are part of this. Most kids and their families bicker about the politics associated with academies. Most kids and their families actually leave the training facilities of their academies tired, frustrated, and even angry... not to mention poorer."
There is also a chance that the coach stinks or the team plays in a weak conference at that high school, which would explain why the kids are willing to play club soccer rather than high school soccer. Still, there is also a chance that the kids who have made this decision are not good enough to get playing time at their high school. Let's face it; soccer is so diluted by the number of club teams that most club teams stink. In fact, even at the academy level there is questionable talent after the starting 11. The idea that all academy kids are going to play DI soccer is laughable; moreover, the idea that this is an efficient way to identify players for our national program is even more laughable. The fact of the matter is that many academies will not be able to stay in the federation, once the players and their parents come to the realization that they are not competing that frequently. The top 14 / 15 players will get some serious playing time and exposure to colleges, but, after that, the other kids will come to the sobering conclusion that they gave up their favorite parts of soccer: being on a team that values their contributions, making significant friendships with teammates, staying connected to that institution that educates them, actually playing in games, and understanding that we live our lives as we live our days (having fun). Perhaps this is why teams like the Baltimore Bays have left the Academy Federation. Their kids and families realize that 1) their club team will get exposure to college coaches without the academy system playing in other high-level leagues 2) most DI -DIII college teams have camps that expose players to the coaches 3) the academies are diluted, controlling, and void of having players intrests as their priority. The professional teams should have academy teams. The other academy teams should realize that this is a bad business model in the long run, stop deceiving players that they hold the only golden ticket to collegiate ball, and stop overcharging families for training.In the end, soccer should be fun. Show me one academy team where kids genuinely feel as if this is a team that they are truly committed to, make significant friendships, and know, in the marrow of their bones, that they will one day look back fondly on having been on that team. Most kids and their families grudgingly are part of this. Most kids and their families bicker about the politics associated with academies. Most kids and their families actually leave the training facilities of their academies tired, frustrated, and even angry... not to mention poorer.
One of the problems with HS soccer is that you are locked into your conference schedule for minimum two year periods. A high school ad can not go out and schedule who he thinks is a competitive match for his team. Take for instance Gill who you mentioned. True there is a lower tier to their conference that they must play, but their games v Bernards and N Plainfield twice yearly are very competitive and decide their division as they all beat the others you mentioned. Both Gill and Bernards have petitioned to move up to next division ( with Sommerville, Ridge, Del Val etc) , but that won't happen til next year at the earliest. Their three non conference games are always tough ( Usually the likes of Bridgewater, Somerville, etc ). They always scrimmage pretty good squads ( Seton Hall Prep, Ridge, New Providence, Del Val, this year ) and they always end up in showdowns with ranked teams in states ( like MKA and Trenton Catholic last year who were both Star Ledger top ten teams). Point is that in the few instances they have choices, they opt for the tough games. I disagree that the young SSC boys who play will experience lopsided scores and get bored. They are still underclassman and will automatically face some physical disadvantages. They will also face some stiff competition in the very strong Somerset County Tournament, Prep school tournament,and Non Public B state tournament. While it won't be like EDP league games or high end club tournaments, the task of playing up v older kids should be challenging enough for them. I think this will be a team that could make some noise come tournament time when their young players mature a bit.
Gill boys will do fine v BW. We respect them and know they have a good program but certainly will not fear them . We had two close games with them last year and will expect the same this season.
You gotta take the negative HS comments with a grain of salt. HS experience will vary school to school , a well as year to year.
not a big gill or SSC fan, but in all fairness, they can't pick and choose their conf games. When the state realigned things a few years ago, they entered sky land conf based on the size of their school, and have asked to be moved up a division since in the minimum allotted time. I think next year they will be moved up a level.
You are right Gill didn't choose the schedule, belvedere, manville, s hunterdon, bound brook...but your coach definitely sold the kids parents on competing for a state title every year. Most of those kids would have been playing in the tough delaware conference and got a better soccer experience playing with and in front of their friends and neighbors....
ok, so the Gill lopsided victories have started as predicted by me:)5-0 over Belvidere..frosh had 2 assists...I just wish these kids could have enjoyed playing real soccer...enjoy mid jersey flight 3, while others play EDP soccer(delaware division)
I want to thank the person whom wrote the comment about hs vs academy on the 4th of this month. I could not agree more. The road to success in soccer is not about spending thousands of dollars in academies or ODP programs that promise much but deliver less. The road to success is happiness. The truth of the matter is if your child is happy where they are playing. The memories of fun, comradely and development encourages self esteem and leadership. Soccer is one of those tools. Unfortunately, in this country, many organizations build their fortune on false advertising. They literally, prostitute this wonderful sport called football.High School is what the kids will remember the most in their lives, don't decide for them. Let them decide for themselves if they want to play or not. Good or bad the memories are a lifetime.
just a thought. Can the folks from EDP take a vote from clubs/coahes and try to play all year around (u15-u18). I think that there's room for this.Competitive players rather play club then hs.
Club coaches get paid hmmm what do you think they will say. Stupid thought.
Hey 729Did you ever stop and think that those gill boys you mentioned will get into better colleges than thier friends and neighbors?There is more to attending Gill than just for the soccer.
Coach didn,t have to sell us about competing for state title at gill every season. Facts speak for themselves. Gill in sectional finals five of last six years, winning four. Gill in state final at TCNJ four of last five years winning once in 2009. MKA v GSB one of the fiercest rivalries in the state.
Won't Gill have to play your precious Delaware division teams in the county tournament?Before you go a basin', let's wait and see how they fare v them.
I just wish these kids could have enjoyed playing real soccer......for who? what public school would they be better off at?
Back on Aug 19 @ 932 Do you really think the SSC player will make CBA varsity? Really ?Well not only did he make CBA varsity, he is in the starting line up.
Kids go to schools like Pingry, Gill, Delbarton, SHP, etc for more than just the sports experience. Check their college lists out, check out the campuses, class sizes etc...It's another world.
SSC, so embarrassing to keep this up. We all know it is just one guy
better soccer experience according to who? You ? one who has passed judgement one game into their first year?
I agree MKA v Gill has had some classic games over the last five or six years, but don't forget Trenton Catholic , who always seems in thick of things. Gill had OT games with them last two years in sectional finals.
As predicted by you? anyone could have predicted an easy victory in Gill over Belvidere. Same for Manville tommorow. First tests in conf, will be North Plainfield and Bernards, then Somerville and Bridgewater. They'll have to play someone decent in SCT, prep and state tournament as well. So give it time they will be tested more than adequetely.
So do hs coaches get paid for doing 'nothing'. Parents and kids rather play in an organized league.
Wait a minute 11am...wasnt everyone bashing club teams when they stepped down and played in the B state cup but know Ssc Is playing in the c division it is something to brag about..haha can't have it both ways..admit it u parents wanted to see ur kids continue to play together and beat bound brook and s hunterdon.....Pleazze..put that on ur soccer resume..state champs of c division
330very ignorant statement because: 1- high school and club is apples and oranges , don't mix them2- there is no C div state championship, only four public school groups 1-4 and two non public groups A + B. all are based on school size and all groups have good teams in states, so each one is tough to win.3- club teams have a choice as to which tournaments, leagues, they enter, high school teams do not.They eventually prove their worth in county and state tournament play.4- Kids go to private schools for many reasons not just soccer. If you saw gill's campus, you'd probably want to go there yourself.
Gill/SSC, you guys really cant get enough of yourselves.
At 32K/yr you better be going for more than just the soccer at Gill.
don't necessarily want to start U8/U9 debate on this site, but re: earlier comments...Cedar Stars U8/U9 are great team but SDFC's U8/U9's have beaten them several times. Just for the record...
It's pretty good preparation for college, at $50k/yr. Kinda softens up the checkbook a bit.
This is a great comment......Pleazze..put that on ur soccer resume..state champs of c division
Nah. It softens up the checkbook for the $50k/yr you'll need for college...
nah not full of ourselves, just defend ourselves from your bashing
how's that a great comment, it's just stupid cause there is no c division
what an idiotic statement " admit it you parents wanted your kids to keep playing together..."Do you really think people are going to pay for a private school just so their sons keep playing together?
hey 3:30 yeah we play at gill what great hs program do your kids play for , that makes you so high and mighty and downright condescendingwould love to play that school and kick your.....but of course you too cowardly to reveal your great hs program
no 11:25 it seems you can't get enough of us!
at least we have something to put in our soccer resumes what you got?
here's another one for all you SSC haters; yet another SSC frosh makes varsity at Princeton HS
hmmmm let's see now that brings the count to 7 at Gill, 1 CBA , 1 Ridge, 1 Hillsborough , 1 Princeton, 2 Bernards , 1 Mo Beard, 1 Rutgers PrepThat' s 15 on varsity
Many Freshman play varsity why does SSC see to talk about it. It is HS soccer, not all schools are equal in talent and not all coaches have the same agenda. My suggesting to SSC is to quiet down as you are just making asses out if yourselves
oh , i get it, when we come on here , we're asses. But it's ok for you to come on here and bash us. I've looked over many of the previous posts, and 80% or more of ssc posts are in response to someone putting them down. We will always defend our team, club, and schools.
if you look back. you'll see someone else brought up a post about which U 15 boys will play HS soccer, and then sarcastically added " not my little SSC player". That is what started the whole thing.
The reality is that SSC parents or parent, not sure, don't have to respond. I have not seen one other club on here talking about their boys and what they are doing. I wish the SSC players all the success they can achieve in HS but if I don't hear about them that would suit me just fine also. I know of a great player that is on his HS freshman team, I also know a B team level player that is on Varsity at a different school. What does it mean? Stop worrying about what others say SSC, you should be better then that. Or maybe, you are just very insecure. I don't blame the kids for this, they would laugh at you if they knew you came on here listing where they play. They would find it creepy I would think.
Our boys were told yesterday by their high school coach to stop possession/passing style of play. Coach said this is not club soccer, it's high school soccer...play the long ball, be physical, blah, blah, blah. Knew that was high school style of play, but WTF, words actually encouraging that style and disparaging "club soccer?" Anyone else hearing this?
Hear it, no, but it is evident that is happening. Because the fields are poor and their aren't really complete teams you can make the right play but it wont work most of the time. You are better off taking your chances on the long ball, gain field possession and go from there.
true they don't have to respond, also just as true, if you don't want to hear about it, then simply don't read that post, they don't respond, you ignore, what's the dif?
Nope our h.s. coach is pushing team to play possession even though we were down 2 goals in first game. He was more interesting in developing this type of gamev pushing for win.. He said it will help the team over the course of season.Each high school is different
That's how they get fired.
Why is it so important to be on Varsity as a Freshman. These people are so n love with themselves and their boys. Not many families can afford the private school thing.
Good point...fields are generally very poor and not able to play quality soccer on them
Wachung Hills looking like the cream of the crop. Beat an always tough Bridgewater team 1 nil. BW has two losses and seems like they will have a tough time this year putting the ball in the net.
good pt about everyone can't afford the private school thing, but most private schools do provide financial aid based on need.
hs coaches try to pull the kids away from club ball. They try to introduce a new sport to them when spring comes.they know that the soccer community is trying to bring all year around club soccer. This all has to do with $$$. Let them get their part time job at BK. That's what 90% of the hs soccer coaches are qualified for
Not at Gill. Sorry you have a bad experience.
9:55, maybe they tried to get your son introduced to a new sport so he would quit the soccer team at the school.
Watchung looks good this year. What club(s) do those kids play for?
Tell us Dad
To 11:33. Actually I'm not a Watchung dad. Saw a couple good results by them and asked an honest question. Hope you feel like an idiot, because you certainly came across as one.
A number of Watcumg plays on FC Copa. From what I have heard 7 or so play on same team. Any quality club team playing together should do well in h.s.... I am not a Gill Dad but in 2 years they should be state title holders and I wouldn't be surprised if they go undefeated, assuming they stay together and continue to develop.
Yes, because you say so you are not. Nice try. If the players are in fact from Copa, that proves my point.
Watchung and Gill would be a nice game. At least club players on both squads. Hope it happens in SCT.
Central beat Pingry 1nil...the delaware conference is a battle
806 you proved no point at all. I am not a Watchung or Copa parent. Just saw they had some results and asked more out of curiousity than anything else. What is this point you are out to prove. Don't get you at all! All you've proved is how quick you come to judge and end up being an idiot.
This board has become so sad. All the HS infighting. What is the point? ...and this other thread about U8/U9 ...seriously...do you have to put down younger children? I don't think the poster meant to refer to Cedar Stars or any one team literally. I'm guessing it was a metaphor for the change that is going on in this sport.
Take a look at the board. See who is fighting, really only one team.
if board is so sad, then don't come on here. As far as the u 8 9 poster , he was insane and deserved the bashing he got. Stop being such a bleeding heart. This board is for fun and kicks, stop taking it so seriously.
Did this board just suddenly die or no updates?
Mr Hudson, SSC lovers, SSC haters, NJX living in the past dude, where have you all gone ? what happened to you ? this board used to be so much fun!
Think it is just a coming of age. At this age group people begin to become aware that it really doesn't matter what their teams have done at age 10,11,12,13,14. None of it matters. Playing H.S. and perhaps getting a chance to play in college is what is important. Time to throw out those silly medallions that say State Cup Champions. Nobody cares...
SSC stopped posting because it really only was one person doing it. It is the off season, relax.
nah it was more than one SSC person, and they will be back, especially after hs season.
The red attacker was in an offside position when the other red attacker shot the ball. However he was not actively involved in play until it deflected off the blue player. So the red attacker became offside when he actively played the defender's deflection. If the defender had "tried" to play the ball rather than a deflection then the red attacker would have been allowed to play and the goal would stand.Ruling: Offside, indirect free kick to blue
this new backround and format stinks. Can't even see anything. You just killed a dying out site.
Come on over SDFC parents. Talk about how far your team has fallen in the rankings here!
Seen the new edp brackets! what a joke... back to the old days of maps.Placing new teams into 1st division when league has been around for 3 years!!! Can these folks release their up and down division methods. Time to start a new league... just when things are going right... $$$
Saw the brackets where? Don't just rant, give some examples of some problem flighting.
Who doesn't belong?? Where can you see the EDP brackets?
So who do u think is out of place in the brackets? Common give some examples. We all need something to fight about. It has been so boring.
EDP taking teams likeCopaToms RiverIB B teamElmwood ParkReally? EDP, time for a new league.
Looking at the flights, it looks like EDP 1st and 2nd divisions are strong lists of teams. Maps should have stayed in Maps. Did those teams pay more to be included as an EDP Maps team?
Everyone needs to be careful out there because Manager MK from Marlboro Warriors is poaching players. Just ask force about it
Poaching, here we go again. How is it that one poaches? If a player doesn't want to leave their current team then they wont leave, right? Outside looking in, if your accusation is true, it would seem like a good move for a player to go from a lowly ranked team to a highly ranked team. If the player is happy, isn't that what is important? Again, the player doesn't have to leave. I for one, just don't buy into the whole poaching thing.
Force? Of course people want to leave the force. Thanks for the heads up.
Howell Home Cooking!How can Howell sleep at night knowing they gave themselves a cakewalk into the finals? A depleted NJ Force, Ocean and Stronghold B team. The other side of the bracket has powerhouses Stronghold and Marlton along with NJX and Westfield.
Don't this Force is a cakewalk and depleted. Already beat DOL and tied Ironbound Milan. We will see what happens.
Wow those are some interesting flighting choices. I guess Howell has no one to blame but themselves if they don't get to the finals.
All these games were scrimmages. Coaches look and try different things. Wait for games to count.Parents will move teams as long as another coach tells them how great their kid is!!!
Everyone should still be at MAPS. Same teams, why not create flights and play MAPS. Because $$$.Now we have EDL within EDP and Champions League being created by these same folks. Why don't these clubs hire 2 or 3 folks to create and run a pro style league. ie: schedules, standings, relegations ....
I feel the other side to see who faces howell in the final will be between Marlton and Stronghold looking for a good tight match.
"Parents will move teams as long as another coach tells them how great their kid is!!!"Based on that statement I have a question for you. Why was that parent talking to a different coach in the first place? There was an issue in place to create that conversation.
Congrats to SSC falcon 7 who play for Gill St Bernards.. won high school prep B state champions
.....and in that bracket, congratulations to the two Ranger players that reached the state finals with their high school soccer team, West Orange! One more game boys, one more game.....good luck, you've made us very proud.
Howell tournament this weekend. SSC teams will be there in full force! Lets pick up where we left off.
NJX is not a weak opponent anymore. Recently tied Hudson and beat LVU. New and improved NJX.
NJX, you have to win games against good or great teams before you come on here and say you are much improved. Your GS page shows poor tourney results. That is your record. And beating LVU, a team that is about #30 in their state and during the high school season (who was there for LVU?) is not a qualifier for big boy consideration.Let your game speak. Come back here after you beat 5 really solid teams or win a league run or a choice tournament. You have a right to shout at the right time. You've been a dog for over a year. You don't become a thoroughbred by beating a #25 or earning a draw with another team that is also average. Your coaches should know this.
NJX really Improved when Marlton whoops you 4 0
Lost yes but beat #1 SSC
Agree it's just scrimmage and. Experimentation time as far as fall tournaments go. We will have to wait til spring season to see the real deal in teams.
Scrimmage my a$$. All played to win. No time to scrimmage when points and rankings are involved. NJX better through subtraction. Who left and you will see the difference
Set it up all you want Howell. Nice try
SSC falcons find way to win while jelling some of their new players.
SSC Falcons won U 15 and SSC Spartans won playing up at U 17, let the bashing begin.
No names or initials to keep with rules but who on NJX team left that would have mattered? Where did these players go and why as per the above is it addition by subtraction? This is an average to below average team but they do have a long ro$ter.
SSC Falcon 7 also won NJSIAA Non Public B state championship 2 - 0 over MKA last Mon at TCNJ.
Last team that bragged this much was NJX. Look where they are now. Well they did beat SSC Not sure what that means
Doesn't mean anything , as bottom line is SSC won the tournament.
Really? The NJX win meant nothing? Come on SSC, come out with an excuse at least. You didn't have your top 4 players, right? You showed up at halftime. Something please. Unless you are saying NJX can compete and beat you.
Drawing any conclusions from the Howler Cup is a waste of time. I watched a lot of shit soccer, on fields that were too small for the size of these boys, not to mention the hills in them. And Sunday topped it off with a freaking windstorm that had kids in hats, gloves, sweatpants, muk luks, ski jackets LOL. Kids couldnt do corners or free kicks becuase the ball wouldnt stay still. It started rolling as soon as you set it down. Waste of time.
NJX beat SSC Saturday not Sunday. Next excuse please
Why do you want an excuse from a team that won the tournament? You look like a fool, barking away at an opening game win, and then that team goes on to win the tournament as well as collect the silly got soccer points that NJX so desperately needs .
You said it yourself , NJX beat SSC on Saturday , not Sunday. Isn't Sunday when tournaments are won?
So any insiders know what is up with SSC Dynamo, they moved from a top 30 team all the way to 13, yet I watched them in the game they lost 6nil...based on that performance how did they get that ranking?To the folks beating down the falcons. They may have lost a battle but they won the war...I don't think U.S. National team will be beating their chests if they "beat" portugal, but don't advance out of the first round..seriously, any team can be beaten on any given day, but Falcons continue to win much more than they lose. I noticed they are playing at the U16 level next week, can anyone comment on the reason?
hmmm so out of curiousity , i looked up these feudin teams, stronghold falcons ranked # 1 in state, # 3 in region, # 7 in nation ( for whatever that's worth) holmdel njx is not even on first page of nj rankings, # 30 or so behind even another stronghold team, so it seems your boast is way out of wack.
You had to look that up? Why are you on a U15 board? NJX is NOT that good of a team, they just aren't. So how did they beat SSC? Did SSC have all their players? Did SSC not care? Did SSC play 3 men down? Were the magnificent 7 there?
Njx win Gives the boys a huge confidence and bragging rights for the next 2 years.
Confidence yes. Bragging rights, no way. Where is Mr. SSC? He usually has an answer.
yes njx beat ssc, give them kudos for that, no ssc did not have all their players, most of the magnificent 7 as you call them were not there, but not an excuse for the loss, ssc cared enough to bounce back and win the tournament,bragging rights for two years?, hardly, like posted above, in soccer any result can happen in any single contest, better to look at long term consistency and ssc falcons do seem to have that. even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, so enjoy your win.
Curious......why bragging rights for next two years?
To 7:54AM...Falcons are playing U16 so that a couple of the U16 Spartans can be seen at the showcase. The Spartans team as a whole isn't quality enough to play in the showcase at a high level bracket, therefore they will use the Falcons cache to play at a high bracket where 1 or 2 Spartans will have a better shot at being seen as well as the special 7.
SSC players 8-15, know where you stand.
SSC wasn't prepared for NJX. Poor coaching. SSC came back a little more prepared and won the tournament. Lesson learned don't any team for granted.
Come on njx a little luck,,, does not constitute a better coach...
NJX will show this weekend why they are back
You showed why you are back in the bottom bracket
Is that NJX in the 5th flight and already with a 4-1 loss and a draw. Must be time for another parent meeting to announce the new, newer, newest team direction.
Falcon 7 not ready for prime time. Didn't look good losing either
NJX playing in the 5th flight comes in 4th (last) place in their group and now plays the last place team from the other group in the conso game. No wins. Most goals against and mustered only 2 goals in two games while drawing the #35 team in the state 3-3.
Falcons outscored 9-0 in tournament. Amazing at this age,jumping up one age has such an impact. Falcons were as large as the teams they played. At least they gave it a shot.
Not much of a shot. They were outclassed
in a tournament like edp cup that has many divisions in an age group, how are the got soccer point values determined for each flight?
Other tournaments don't have any divisions in an age group? Points are still determined the same way, strength of the teams in it.
Some local EDP results:NY Hota 4-0 in the top flight! East meadow and Marlboro also had success in the top flight while Hudson scratched out a win and Marlton left with no victories at all.BOCA, perhaps flighted a bit too high had no wins and Howell had 1 win in the 3rd flight. NJF 1 win in the 4th flight and NJX 1 win in the 5th flight. Other then Marlboro and SJEB the NJ teams had a rough weekend.
First of all, the Falcon 7 as you call them were not all there. Second, nothing wrong with challenging the boys and playing up in a highly competitive u 16 group. Bash us all you want know, but this weekend gets us prepared to play the likes of you.
A might touchy aren't we 6:36. I was merely pointing out that the Falcons didn't show well against U16 and I was actually surprised that playing up would have that much of an impact , considering all the boys play against that age and older on Varsity and the fact that physically they are very close to same size as U16.
I would have bet money the top 3 u15 teams wouldn't be shut out in 4 straight games against u16. Never would have thought 1 year would make such a difference. Anyone else have comments?
The teams falcons played were not even top 10 teams and one ranked 20.
Just a bad weekend. I am sure they were missing key parts.
HS ball is totally behind club ball. Do not try to compare.A top u15 should compete against mid or bottom level u16... Not top u16 teams. Same mistake happens every year where parents think their child is soccer gifted. Keep on training
My sons team routinely plays (scrimmages) against top NJ U16 teams. They have not won them all and a majority of the time they tie or lose by a goal. NEVER have they lost by 3 or more goals. A mid level U16 team could hang with them but not for an entire game.
So SSC Super Seven, better known as the SSCSS, were the U16 Stronghold players that bad? Did they hold you back? It couldn't have been you (and I mean that), so what happened?
You people are retarded. Why the Hell does this conversation keep going? It is irrelevant and makes no sense.
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